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Well, that makes sense.
Got it.
Just about as much sense as what happened last night.
What happened last night?
The government came back.
Oh, oh, they signed papers.
You know, we were celebrating at home.
We were, you know, tipping back a few champagne glasses.
Yeah.
It
was just what a time for us, you know, I thought.
Well, you know, it's been long enough.
We held the government up long enough.
We made our point.
You know, we made a complete point.
And of course, we lost miserably.
We got nothing that we asked for.
And that's fine.
You know, I'm used to how Democrats operate.
I know how they operate.
I know how they think.
And you know, we made our point.
Sure.
And then, uh, they trampled all over us and killed us.
Yeah.
So that's fine.
I get it.
Hey,
I get it.
Got a promise in January to talk about the ACA, you know, they're going to bring the debate to the floor and open it all up.
Oh, yes.
You're going to work it all out.
Yes.
You know, I love that promise.
Got the promise.
Yeah.
Got it.
I've reserved a seat at the table and I'm sure that they'll have pizza and they'll have refreshments.
And we'll sit around the table
and
we'll talk about it.
And I'm sure that they'll see the logic and the reasoning behind all of this and approve a continuation of the tax credits that were put in place during COVID for the ACA.
I'm sure that'll all work out just fine.
I have no problem with that.
What the heck?
I have a lot of faith in the Republicans.
They have always held to their promises, just like the Epstein files being released.
They've always held to that standard that they have where they always keep their promise, damn it.
Yes.
And the Epstein files, they're coming out now, right?
Uh, well... Sort of?
I mean, we're hearing all kinds of
things.
There'll be a vote next week.
I don't know why we didn't have a vote now.
Is there a procedure in the house that where they have to wait?
Like three or four,
five,
six,
seven days.
We've got to
let kind of all settle down.
It
all settled down.
Now, let me ask, you know, we're early in the month here.
This is only the 13th.
So
if they wait a week or until Monday or Tuesday, that.
Election in, I don't know what state it is, but, you know, where a Republican is going to be elected in probably because it's a pretty sure red district, uh, it'll cancel out, you know, the vote of releasing these Epstein files.
You're kidding.
I haven't heard
that.
But I, yeah, that's, we all thought that's what they were waiting for.
That would be the first week in December.
Uh, that election will take place and then cancel out the vote of Gujarat.
The Grahava.
So anyway, that is one of those things.
But that won't happen, I think, because it's next week.
And they promised to at least take a vote on it.
And I'm sure that
that won't
happen either.
Well, political is reporting that the Epstein files vote is happening next week, according to Mike Jones.
There you go.
So you heard it there.
It's in print, boy.
I mean, there it is.
He's there.
It's another one of those promises.
He's promised it.
Yeah.
So I'm sure it'll happen.
They'll come up with an excuse to put it off.
Believe me.
But
Adelida Gravalta.
Grahalva.
Grahalva, sorry, has now been sworn in.
Yep.
Yep.
And, you know, she went right over and signed up for that discharge petition or whatever it is.
Yes, right away.
Yeah, right away.
And so they
got the needed votes, and now they have to just, I mean, you know, the promissory votes, now they'll just have to vote.
set it in stone and then release all the Epstein files.
All of them.
You know, a few of them were already released.
Yeah, a
lot of stuff's coming
out.
Where have those files been?
If they just released a few of the files, why didn't they do it before?
What is this?
What's going on?
Do I not understand government?
You know, I don't think I do.
You don't.
No, you don't.
Because Trump's in charge of everything now.
It's all on him.
He signs off on every little thing.
Every
tiny little thing.
Nobody else has
power.
Tomorrow, we'll, you know, there's a story here, you heard it, where we might have a shortage of pasta.
A tariff has been put
on
Italian pasta, so.
Oh no, that's sad.
We'll have that
story tomorrow.
More details,
I'm sure.
Pasta's one of my favorite things.
What are we gonna do without pasta?
I don't know.
What's your favorite pasta noodle?
You guys
have a favorite
pasta
noodle?
It's a survey this morning
by the way.
That'll be the next poll question.
We can work on that.
Now, weren't we talking about that at one time?
Bronze, they press pasta through bronze
in order to
keep the surface kind of rough
and hold the
sauce.
Or brass.
Now, I said brass originally,
but brass is kind
of shiny.
It's bronze, I believe.
Hey,
I got a few tips here.
Yeah,
do
you?
Yeah.
I mean, if you're one of those people that like to brew a lot of coffee in the morning, first thing.
Right.
I found out that anything over eight cups, you use a basket.
Anything under eight cups, you use the funnel.
Okay.
Why?
Why would that
matter?
The concentration of water and how it hits the coffee, how long it lasts on the coffee.
and pulls that flavor up.
That's important because a basket allows for more soak time and you have more grounds to soak.
Where did you find this out?
What caused this to be an issue in your household?
Well, I mean, I want the best coffee I can possibly make.
I grind my own beans each and every...
day.
So
here's the thing.
My point here is that if you have a basket brewer and you're making over eight cups, then I have advice for you because you probably run into this.
The filter baskets for this, the store brand filter baskets are too short.
And when the coffee, the water drips in and it
and it soaks in a little bit, it bubbles up.
It expands and it goes over the top of the filter and then the grounds get into your coffee pot.
That's sad.
And it jams up sometimes the
spout at the bottom.
But you're drinking more than eight cups of coffee, is that what I'm hearing?
Is that how you found this out?
You have eight cups of coffee in the morning.
I do have, I do have a partner.
I have somebody
else who
helps me with that.
Oh, your wife drinks some coffee.
We drink the whole damn pot.
Yes.
Okay.
But anyway, the point here is that there are filters out there that you have to buy that have higher sides on it.
And that is the bun coffee filters for baskets.
That is, that is the basket filter to get.
They're higher.
They have higher sides and the grounds don't get over the top.
Here's that man with a nose for news.
Mr. Know-It-All.
I wouldn't exactly say Know-It-All, but the
You know, it's just something you find out over the many years.
I've been doing this since I was 20 years old, looking into coffee and looking into the best ways to brew it and roast it.
I was right there at the beginning of the coffee roasting binge that took place, you know, the Steepin' Brews and the Victor's coffees where they had their own brewing.
I was there in the beginning in Milwaukee.
So I'm very familiar with...
Coffee brewing.
I
have
an announcement.
Are you talking to me?
What's the problem, pal?
I'm here on a mission of mercy.
Cup of coffee
in the big
time, yeah.
Cup of coffee in the big time.
Put that
coffee down.
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
So there you go.
Anyway, my tips.
Coffee top.
Bun, bun basket filters.
Thank you.
Higher sides on it.
Coffee won't get over the top of it and jam up your machine.
Good to
know.
There you go.
All right.
I've been waiting to tell that story for it.
No, not really.
By the way, it's John and Gordy, 92.7 WMDX.
Good Thursday.
Did we forget to mention that?
We did.
Yeah, Thursday morning, November 13th, almost halfway through the month.
And weather for today starting out at 35 degrees.
It's balmy out there, high near 53 today.
It'll still be breezy.
Tim Slecker actually is not going to be with us this morning.
No, normally he's with us on Thursday mornings, but not today, but Jim Santel will be in later.
Former US attorney talking about whatever legally.
The legal stuff is going on.
Oh my God.
It's hard to keep track.
Well, I'm sure there's a lot to keep track of.
But he does keep track of it for us.
Yeah.
And then tonight we're going to be filling in for Pete Schwabba on Night Light and got a bunch of guests lined up for that.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, we got tons of guests.
Our first guest will be Scott Dickers who started the onion here in Madison actually bought the onion.
in the early stages and invested in it and became very popular, became a network, and still is a network, and they're
still around.
They're
still allowing subscriptions, as a matter of fact, and get it in the mail each and every month.
Yeah,
and he's got a
new
book about the onion.
Yes,
yes.
And we'll be finding out about that.
Yeah,
so.
He narrates it.
Mm-hmm.
What, on Kindle or whatever, I mean Audible?
Yeah,
you know
Audible.
Yeah.
Great.
So I listened to just a part of it just to see if they mentioned Johnny Gordy.
Yeah, because we were instrumental in the launch of The Onion.
Well, we
did
our part, right?
We did.
We had him on our radio show back then and we will talk and the cable show will
talk our contributions to him.
And I'm I know that's got to say, you know, I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Could you just add that in your audible
version?
You can edit that right back in here.
Yeah, why not?
OK.
Well, you know, we started Onion News.
That's what we started on WMAD.
And you're saying he stole the idea.
No, he's probably
very familiar with it, I
just want
credit
for him.
Can't we get a little press here and there?
It's not a big deal, it really isn't.
Yes,
it is.
You've been carrying that around for decades.
Well, we actually started it.
Well, we did.
We let them on the show.
And
then we turned it into pirate radio with Jay Rath.
So
long, long time ago.
Let it go.
Just let it go.
It's important, you
know?
I mean,
history has to be recorded in all its grand detail.
Yeah, exactly.
And if our name isn't in there, I'm really pissed.
Well get ready Yeah, I'm I'm I'm setting myself for up for disappointment you are what?
Oh,
that's probably me that's me your computer
Yeah, yeah,
one of the one of the videos went off on its own I turned the volume down.
All right
Yeah, we got so much stuff to get to and it's almost, you know, kind of a blessing.
We'll get to Idiocracy.
We've got so many stories backed up here.
So it's kind of a good thing.
We'll get a lot of stories out there.
We'll get to that.
And
we'll
continue to whine about the vote last night.
And
we got to mention Dominic
Lee.
He's a busy guy, you see.
Italian style.
It's Dominic Lee.
Wow, man.
Good morning, Dominic.
Thank you so much.
Yeah,
he is taking your calls.
6-0-8-8-7-9-8-2-5-5.
Just getting started on a Thursday.
Stay with us for more of John and Gordy.
Need a cup, need a cup, need a cup.
Go vain.
you
It's John
and Gordy in the morning in Dominic Lee.
Great little theme for you there.
I appreciate that.
Thank you guys.
Sure.
It is 623 weather for
today.
Could you hear that?
How did that work?
Is that loud?
Louder?
That was intense, I guess.
Somebody said to turn it up a little bit, so I wanted to test it out.
Blow out the speakers in there.
We're good in here.
Blow my ears.
Sorry.
I didn't expect that.
All right.
Well, now we know.
OK.
Weather for today, high near 53.
Right now it's 35 degrees.
We'll see a mix of sun and clouds for today.
OK.
All right.
What's trending?
Well, what's trending is this is an interesting kind of thing that's happening.
You know, solar panels are out there in the great grasslands of our nation.
You know, they're absorbing all the sunlight and turning it into electricity to light our our cities and our homes.
And that's always nice.
But here.
in great Wisconsin, you know, we've got fields, we've got pastures, we've got places to grow food, right?
And we don't want those solar panels out there.
I mean, that's just outrageous.
Yeah, I just not really.
You know, the
Republican... I think
they're kind of cool, right?
Well, yeah, I...
The thing is, you know, unless you're flying above the field, you really don't see them.
You don't notice the panels on these large acreages.
So anyway, what's happened is you have to kind of have an undergrowth underneath these panels.
And they've figured out a way to control that undergrowth, grass and whatever it is, maybe even some certain kinds of grasses that are beneficial to some.
animals that you can raise on these farms.
So
now they're thinking, well, we have the grass.
We've got sheep that go out there and eat this grass.
Why not exploit that and start using sheep on our kitchen tables.
Serve up sheep meat.
Sheep meat.
Yes.
Yes.
People are starting to turn to sheep meat lamb.
Well, lamb is
too, too early, of course.
Stay away from that.
You know, it's not It's not great.
You know, they they keep these lambs and his little Bins and never let them out.
Oh
You're familiar with that.
No, no, not really.
I've never really wondered about
give
or drive
drive by these farms or they have all these white little Cubicle things lined up Really?
Yeah, it's it's cruel.
That's sad, but but cheap
Yeah, so anyway that they're thinking about Using sheep now for meat products instead of of course beef is very difficult to get hold of So they're thinking yeah, let's let's start tapping into that big crop of lambs going out there Underneath the solar panels.
Okay, they're getting fat too fat that so we've
got to start eating them we start with that We eat sheep or mutt or lambs and mutton is that mutton?
I don't, you
know, I don't know.
You know, the thing is, I always think of it when I think of lamb, I think of the smaller creatures.
Right.
Yes.
Yeah.
Right.
The
young.
The little
lambs.
So, I think maybe lamb is just the general way of describing it for sheep meat, right?
I don't know, you know, where's-
Where's Pam Yarky when we need her?
Come
on.
We should call her up.
I don't know everything.
Wait a minute, I thought you were Mr. Noah.
Well, so did I. Now I'm finding out.
You don't know
everything.
I'm finding out the hard way in front of everybody.
I've embarrassed myself.
They said, yes, mutton is the meat from a mature-
Oh, it is.
Yes, a mature sheep.
Yep.
Excellent.
Okay.
Now we
know.
All right.
So anyway, yeah, mutton is going to be something that everybody will have on their table.
Mutton.
Sounds like something from the Dickens era, you know.
Let's put some mutton on the table.
Bring the mutton.
There will be new mutton stores all over the place.
Mutton and RS.
I can see it now mutton's in a minute.
I like that.
John and Gordy's mutton's in a minute.
There you go.
We're gonna
start a
little corner story.
There's a lot of open
shops down here on State Street.
We can do that.
Let's workshop that one.
Okay.
Or me and my mutton.
Me and my mutton.
Yeah.
What is that from?
What about me and my mutton?
What?
Nothing.
No, I can't.
Can you say it on the air?
Nothing
but
mutton?
Yeah, nothing but mutton.
Nothing but mutton.
That would be the shot.
I think we're done somewhere with this
thing.
See, you just shoot it
around the table a while.
Really come up with some creatives.
Why?
Thank you.
No, not really.
Well, mutton is trending now.
We keep mentioning it enough.
It'll start showing up in Google.
That's right.
Well, it'll show up in our AI summary of the program for
this hour.
All right.
Wait a second.
Catherine's on the phone
here.
Oh, damn.
What do we do?
Hang on.
Hang on.
OK.
Good morning, Catherine.
Is she there or she can't hang up?
We've
embarrassed.
We spent way too much time on AI, you
know.
You guys are like a record that is just slowing down.
The most mutton got in your head.
I know.
Stop
talking.
Or mystified by
mutton.
It's
starting to sound like a money python sketch here.
Button!
Oh, what's a mutton?
Mutton!
What
in the hell
mutton?
Would you like red mutton or what?
I don't
know.
We're going to join the Midwest Food and Farm Report here in a moment, and then we'll be back with Idiocracy on WMDX.
It's mutton day here.
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.
I'm so stupid!
Stupid!
Foolish, gullible, totish, dumbbell, lay back!
I'm an extremely stable genius.
Okay.
It's all fake news.
It's phony stuff.
It didn't happen.
You are fake news.
That's the best stupid thing I've ever heard this week, man.
Ha ha ha
ha!
Idiocracy!
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.
Yeah.
I have to question whether he's that dumb or not.
He seems to be winning an awful lot here.
Winning.
And people, for some reason, believe everything he's saying.
He has never said the truth yet since he's been elected.
And prior to that, obviously.
He's consistent.
Yeah, he's very consistent.
But it works.
It's shocking stuff, isn't it?
It just doesn't make any sense at all.
So I don't know.
It is 636, 92.7 WMDX.
We're talking sheep this morning.
And mutton.
Okay.
I'm hearing sheep.
Yeah, in the background there.
There you go.
Let's just keep that going the whole show.
Well, we're talking about sheep grazing underneath the solar panels and suddenly becoming a popular meat item for those who want to have mutton, the older version of lamb.
And we've been
Inundated with a few texts here.
Sheep from Pink Floyd is something we might want to get to and find out if they actually say sheep in the song.
A
lot of times they don't.
Or, and Steve Monthorpe nailed it, euros are made of lamb.
The meat in euros.
There you go.
It's lamb meat.
Yes.
We
wanted
to forgot so I guess maybe we can't corner the market Mutton's are us
That's a good ring to it.
I think yeah, yeah, okay
Hey, the Godfather of Green Bay, we've been talking about that.
We were filling in for Pete Schwabba tonight and tomorrow night
on
Nightlight.
And Pete is going to be in Madison on December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall.
We've lined up a screening of the Godfather of Green Bay.
Happens Thursday, December 4th, 7 p.m.
You can go to our website, wmdxradio.com.
Look at the carousel at the top of the page and click on the Godfather Green Bay.
Find out more about it.
Peach Wava directed the film.
He wrote it and stars in it.
And some of the proceeds will be going to the Dane County Humane Society.
The tickets are $10.
You can go to Atwood Music Hall for tickets.
You can just click on their website and find out about the tickets and order some in advance.
All right.
See you there.
I can't wait.
On December 4th, it's going to be a lot of fun.
John and I will be there.
Pete Schwabba will have some, he'll take some questions from the audience after the movie.
He's the romantic lead.
He is.
He's going to have to deal with that on the stage.
It's the 20th anniversary of the screening of the, you know, of that movie.
Yeah, of the release.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
It's great stuff.
Um, okay, uh, idiocracy.
Yeah, here we go.
We're in the thick of things here.
Okay.
We're
still really angry here on the show and we'll have that, uh, deep seated anger throughout the program.
about the shutdown for the yes how the Democrats folded completely and got nothing like a house of cards and a windstorm and a promise and a promise it'll be debated later on of course we've heard their debate side they're gonna have high-risk pools and health savings and going back to the way it was before the ACA when of course we had 48 million people uninsured yeah let's go back to that time that worked real well
It's for some reason.
No one ever brings that up with with Ron Johnson.
Right.
But anyway, let's get to Trump lying again.
Okay.
This is a journalist Ed Krasenstein.
He posted this and I think
I think he's talking about, you know, I don't know what he's talking about, but he's always saying that he has high approval ratings.
Well, let's check it out.
This is cut 64, and this is Trump claiming again on Veterans Day of all day.
He doesn't really stick to the subject matter, right?
He just goes off and starts talking about something else.
And this is him talking about something else.
Let's listen.
What did he just say?
A
92% approval rating.
We took that up from 38%.
from a certain previous administration that we won't mention.
Maybe 92% of Epstein supporters support you.
Maybe 92% of women think you're gross.
Maybe 92% of the world hates you.
Or maybe you're just completely delusional.
Well, that's delusional.
I think that's a Ed Kressen team.
All right.
Anyway, let's get to our other story.
You know, we've got a lot of stories here.
Maybe we should just turn the teletype on.
Oh, sure.
We can do that
and see if they we can crank out more stories.
Let's get to the fake electors.
All right.
All right.
Well, they were rescued, of course.
Ed Martin drafted the pardon for the fake electors.
He was pardoning himself.
No surprise there.
He made it preemptive in general, covering all United States citizens for conduct relating to efforts to expose voting fraud and vulnerabilities in the 2020 presidential election, which there weren't any.
So because of their
Uh, they're incredibly important work.
They needed a pardon.
Okay.
So this is cut 61 cut 61.
Let's listen to cut 61.
Jeffrey Epstein confidant and convicted sex trafficker is currently serving a 20 year sentence at a minimum security prison camp
in Texas where she
was transferred after an interview.
Wait,
that's not I
think it's cut 69.
Let me get 69.
Okay.
All right.
You worked on these pardons.
Can you tell us about the
pardon?
You know, I was listening to watching your program last hour Maria and I heard you mentioned the Russia hoax as an original, you know, kind of when this started and you mentioned January 6th.
What
this pardon does is help rescue the people who were hunted.
The Biden administration hunted the alternate electors who were participating in our constitutional process in 2020 and they were hunted and their lives were destroyed.
You mentioned the famous people, Rudy and Sidney and others.
Most of them are not particularly famous.
They're regular people, but they were Trump supporters who believed in the Constitution.
So what we worked on here and the president captured it best was rectifying a wrong, trying to protect people from, and it was, by the way, it wasn't like, it wasn't somebody random.
It was deranged Jack Smith who had a plan
to target
these people
to
roll them up to try to make it about get Trump.
So
this
was a very important set of pardons.
I'm really proud to have played a small role in that.
across the country, people are realizing if you're hunted by Biden, Obama folks, there's gonna be people on your side and one of them, the leader of the party and leader of the country is Donald Trump.
Is there really anybody who thinks people are hunted?
Come on.
The thing is, obviously they tried to make it seem like there was fraud in the election
and
there wasn't any.
And each state had its own research investigations and they found nothing, again.
Always the same story and these guys are the heroes because they went after all the fraudsters out there that didn't exist Yeah, and and Ed Martin who drafted the pardon Pardon himself Always keep that in mind There's an ulterior motive for everything these people do the Megas they have it all right.
Let's get to something that I think Here we go.
It
comes
to the next story
story.
This is a big
story boy.
We got all that so I
I think we need to get the other side here.
We have seen the National Guard go into these cities and rough up people quite a bit.
And they have been now being used as law enforcement in many ways.
So what we're looking at here are the actual National Guard members and what they think about going into these cities.
And PBS...
asked a whole bunch of people, guard members, anonymously, to tell us what they thought about going into these cities and coming up against
Americans just like them.
I mean, they went in to be a National Guard member simply because they wanted to help out in emergency situations,
which is what they're used for.
But that has flipped around and they are not happy.
So let's listen to cut number 70.
And these are the Guard members according to public radio.
I got with some people that I knew were like-minded and then they knew some other people and we decided that a chat, like a place that we could express these things with people that are feeling the same way.
And was there like a vibe shift at some point where people were kind of looking at what was happening with these National Guard deployments and saying like, wait a minute.
I really went to like a dark place when they sent the troops to LA and then eventually DC and now like Chicago like every time I see that it's just like this is just not what any of us signed up for and I just wonder like who's gonna stand up to this you know?
But instead, we have DC come across at us like, anybody want to go to this and no one raises their hand?
Well, what exactly are we going to be doing?
Like, are we going to have leave?
And those answers aren't very clear.
We were concerned.
We asked the question.
We got a kind of a poo poo, I will say.
And for me, it's just I don't let them off the
hook.
People who don't see people in uniform every day, you send 50 of them out to walk their street.
It's going to send a message, you know, even if they're not doing anything.
It's so unbelievable sometimes.
that we have to like get assurance.
Is this really happening?
I would get out if I could.
The only reason I want to finish my current contract is just...
Because I feel like there's weight to what I do and say right now, and I just want to use that to do some good.
If for some reason this became so unbearable that I was like, I have to get out of the military, then you are a cog in a machine.
So I get taken out.
Someone else is just going to be put in.
I like the idea that I can make a difference within my six feet.
And if there's enough of us in a military organization, I think that's enough to make a bigger difference than what we realize.
So to be clear, not every engagement I've ever done, every deployment I ever have been on, I've agreed with, but that's what the apolitical military is, right?
You go when you're asked and you're called when it's legal and lawful.
But right now, how am I feeling?
Uh, lots of therapy has taken me to the point where at least I can be okay if I have to say goodbye.
That sucks.
And the things on my mind are, what is my line that I won't cross?
What am I prepared to give up?
Is this tarnishing my service?
Is it... I'm doing everything I thought I was fighting for?
Because I spent a lot of time being really proud of my military career and my service.
Just to watch it possibly go up in flames.
I know what my mind is.
I
am a cog, right?
Like somebody else can replace me.
So that's why I'm sitting here.
I'm okay if I have to go, if I'm asked to go.
I have a way.
But right now I gotta stay and do the good I can because...
the person behind you might not.
Because if the moment that we stop asking the questions, then everything falls on their face.
There's troops all across the military with their own kind of feelings, reasons for do I or don't I, you know?
So I hope that those people can all connect.
Yep.
Wow.
Wow.
I mean, here on the other side, it's refreshing and very sad
and
very troubling, at least for that one individual.
Yeah.
Seeing the whole career that you put into the National
Guard
go up in flames.
Yeah, and
you know going into cities and and trying to provide some law enforcement and yeah, you know arrest people or whatever they're Sub sandwiches thrown at you.
Yeah.
It's not what they signed up for
right, you
know, right?
It's not what it's all about.
It's tough.
Yeah,
anyway, man All right.
Well, let's get to something else in this.
It's also very odd
Well, we just have a minute
left
here.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I can't get to that.
OK.
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Parking's always an issue.
A hallmark movie with zoning issues, 37%, or somewhere between charming and chaotic, that's at 31%.
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I only had to say that because it doesn't look like anybody voted on that since yesterday.
Sorry about that.
That's okay.
All right.
But yeah, you know, I got another story here.
Do we have another story?
Yeah.
Okay
Slow down there for a few minutes
The gears are all gummed up.
Too cold.
All right.
It's odd how humane treatment of immigrants has not figured into the new mega warehouse detention centers.
They're looking into buying and purchasing all of these warehouses, abandoned warehouses and Amazon warehouses that they no longer use.
Now, I don't remember too many of these warehouse facilities having a kitchen.
to make food for the immigrants or maybe showers or something like that as well.
I mean, they have to have all of those particular facilities at these warehouses.
You don't just get a warehouse and put people in them.
The Trump authority also recently announced more state run immigrant detention facilities in Florida, Louisiana,
and Indiana, just so you know.
All right, Trump is pledged to slash energy prices in half, right?
Yeah.
Now, we really haven't seen that happen.
It's gone down maybe three or four cents, up and down in the last, you know, five or six months.
Prices on.
So it
really hasn't.
Changed much.
Yeah,
and
plus you know the fuel change as well.
So prices really aren't coming down George Stephanopoulos press the fact that electric electricity prices have in fact gone up So this is about energy prices.
Let's listen to what cut 58 has to tell all of us
The president says so he just had posted this morning that there's almost no inflation the consumer price index is higher
than it was in the beginning of the year.
Electricity rates are rising.
So are prices for coffee, beef, vegetables, televisions.
And it's not just me.
It's not just economists who are saying that.
Your own Republican members of Congress are saying that, including Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Let's look.
I go to the grocery store myself.
Grocery prices remain high.
Energy prices are high.
My electricity bills are higher here in Washington D.C.
at my apartment, and they're also higher at my house in Rome, Georgia, higher than they were a year ago.
So affordability is a problem.
How do you respond to Congressman Green?
Well, George, what I would respond to is electricity prices are a state problem.
And I was very interested to see in the earlier clip where the governor-elect of New Jersey said, well, I'm going to bring down energy prices.
Well, it was her predecessor.
Phil Murphy, who took them up.
So, you know, look, there are things that the federal government can control.
Local electricity, listening to prices are not one of them, but, you know, energy prices, gasoline prices are a way down.
And, you know, we are doing what we can every day.
I think we are on a very good path to bringing prices down.
No.
No, you weren't.
Prices aren't coming down and they're growing up because
The Trump administration moved away from solar and wind.
So a lot of these communities had to fire up their old coal plants and gas fire plants as well.
So cheap energy is going away.
Solar and wind are the cheapest energy possible to generate.
And that was bringing prices down, even though they had to shore up the infrastructure, provide the power lines.
But it is cheap energy.
And they have done away with that.
So let's go back to gas and coal.
And prices, higher prices.
Energy prices going up.
All right.
Along with groceries and everything else.
I know.
I know.
And again, just to remind you that we're steeped in anger this morning because the Democrats backed down in the house.
I honestly did not expect that.
I mean, I'm listening to Hakeem Jeffries, you know, he's insisting that they're sticking to their guns.
Did he not know that his contingent would back down and give him to the Trump administration?
There really isn't much hope.
The midterms is our only hope.
I feel like that's a line out of Star Wars.
I don't know if that's
in the movie.
Folks, you're our only
hope.
Okay.
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That's from, you know, Edel Weiss from Sound of Music.
Yes.
Yes.
Very poignant part of the film.
Anyway,
yeah.
Epstein files.
Kind of destroyed that song.
Well, the Epstein files, they're coming out now.
Well, we'll see, you know, there's a vote next week.
I don't know why it didn't just happen immediately and release them.
Of course, you know, some of the Democrats are spreading some of the files around.
Word where have they held onto these?
Why didn't they spread them earlier?
Right?
I mean one says that Trump spent hours with one victim.
Yes,
and that That's not good, right?
I mean it doesn't bode well for Trump's I don't know
excuses that he never even knew Epstein.
And Michael Wolfe, the guy that wrote that fire and fury book, he's letting
out a lot of information.
Yes, he's letting a lot of stuff out there.
She just put it all out there.
And what happened to reading the names?
You know the victims put together a name a list of names of people who victimized them So I I don't know what happened to that either All right.
Anyway, Trump says that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, which what does that change anything?
I don't know Takes a lot of context.
I'm not quite sure what he's saying with that the Financial Times said this Jeffrey Epstein said that Donald Trump spent hours at my house
with a woman later identified as a victim of sex trafficking, according to the emails that raised fresh questions about the relationship between the late pedophile and the US president.
That's never good.
You know, and somebody posted headlines.
This is kind of in contradiction to their...
their fight against human trafficking, right?
It says here, revealed, Trump administration retreats on combating human trafficking and child exploitation.
That's odd.
State Department office combating human trafficking faces cuts, former leader says.
Trump administration pulls back on work combating human trafficking along a topic of the GOP.
Trump administration cuts resources for agencies fighting human trafficking and slavery.
Wow.
Why would they do all those cutbacks?
So all of a sudden, something is different or has changed?
All right, now let's get to Caroline Levitt, spokesperson for Trump.
I don't
know.
Where did they find her?
She is an amazing thing.
I think she looks a lot like the Megan AI creation robot.
the movie Megan yeah so honestly she looks just like that that android anyway this is her talking about what's going on it's truly a manufactured hoax let's listen
And it just shows how this is truly a manufactured hoax by the Democrat Party.
For now, they're talking about it all of a sudden because President Trump is in the Oval Office.
But when Joe Biden was sitting in there, the Democrats never brought this up.
This wasn't an issue that they cared about because they actually don't care about the victims in these cases.
They care about trying to score political points against President Trump, as we have, of course, seen with this government
shutdown.
trying to score political points, there must be something to it, right?
What are they afraid of?
What are they afraid of?
Now, the Democrats didn't have to bring it up because Trump was bringing it up all the time and threatening to release those files thinking that the
Democrats
were on that list.
So we're going to release those day one.
They brought it up.
We did not have to bring it up.
OK, just to set the record straight.
get this in Wisconsin here the Wisconsin GOP had a problem well here let's listen to this is state representative Lee
Snodgrass, she is criticizing Republican lawmakers for removing an amendment urging Congress to release the Epstein files.
They didn't want to get on board.
They didn't want to say, hey, come on, Congress, release these files.
Let's listen to what Lee Snodgrass had to say.
Jeffrey Epstein trafficked, raped, victimized, and harmed children and women, and rich and powerful and influential people knew it and covered it up.
These women deserve justice, and I simply can't imagine that there's a person in this room who would vote against a resolution to pressure our congressional representatives to finally release those files.
Astonishingly, we're seeing here that Republicans in Congress would rather shut down the government than reveal the truth.
They would rather protect the president and their wealthy friends than provide some measure of justice and redemption.
We all just voted unanimously to increase penalties for human trafficking and extend the statute of limitations.
You simply cannot vote for that and then vote down this amendment.
That is a level of duplicitousness that you simply cannot justify to your constituents.
Either you're with children and women who have been victims of trafficking and sexual assault, or you are against them.
So shout it here from the floor.
Release the abstain files.
There you
go.
Mmm.
That's a
Wisconsin State Representative Lee Snotgrass.
Good for
her.
Yeah, she really laid into them.
You know, they're coming down hard on trafficking and but don't release the abstain
files.
All right.
I'm kind of gotten the message there.
Mark, let's go.
Let's hear what you have to say this morning.
Good morning, Mark.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I just got back from a walk with the dog.
and the fact that took two-and-a-half miles to get him to finally do his business.
Thanks for that report.
I know.
But it is just this clown that was talking, you know, trying to protect the fake electors, bringing up all this stuff about, bringing up the Russia-Russia thing, and saying, oh, there was all this fraud in the election, and these poor, poor, poor fake electors.
I mean, they committed fraud.
I mean, the ones from Wisconsin actually signed it, signed the document.
Yes, we know we did wrong.
We violated the law.
and uh... including that you know a guy that's still in a commission would spend all
yeah
he shouldn't shouldn't be there but i mean today uh... what happens with the jack smith they get jack smith out there and and and tell him to testify and he brings up the information that rusher rusher rusher was no hope that donald trump actually for for the love of god he actually came on said rush if you're listening give me the hillary
i know
yes i know we made a big deal about
that
he asked him for he asked him for
for their assistance and they claim that well there's nothing oh there's nothing to see here you know it's just all hoax well any honest man would not say something like that if if yeah i i just if it's just beyond me i mean it just it's tough to remain FCC compliant and
yeah i know
it is just
well
spent spent tax time because these guys
every single one of them should be in jail.
I know that the fake electors should be in jail.
Well, Mark,
rest assured that I'm working on trying to get the S word said on this program.
Well, it gets me, we can say guano, we can say manure, we can say everything else.
And all the S-word is, is just the form of the old Anglo-Saxon word for it.
That's exactly
right.
See, we should
hear, we should listen to Mark on this thing.
He's got the historical context right there.
Good job.
Thanks guys.
Hey, thanks Mark.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, you know, Johnson says, you know, he's part of the fake electors thing, you know, and he gets a chance now to sue the government 15...
$1000 or something like that.
He says he has got no plans whatsoever to sue the government.
He says if
I did sue.
It would only be for the purpose of using the courts to expose the corrupt weaponization of federal law enforcement by Biden and Obama administration.
Obama said it shouldn't be necessary to sue.
Now, of course, you know, they got the phone records of all those people that essentially were planning on the fake electors.
Just just the times they called the conversations themselves were not included in any of those records, but.
Yeah, it's kind of a crazy thing, you know And I just let's listen, you know, we're angry that the Democrats backed out.
Yeah, I'm the shutdown.
Yeah,
because let's listen to cut 79 here I I was encouraged that this wasn't going to happen.
Well, but let's listen
They promised to put America first the only thing you guys put first is yourselves
yourselves and the rich and powerful people who pull your strings behind the scenes.
These people don't care.
They don't have to call the insurance company because their claim was denied.
They don't buy their own groceries.
If you have a private jet and offshore bank account and an invite to Mar-a-Lago, go ahead and support your Republican representative.
But if you're a regular person who feels like you're getting screwed over, if you are fed up with the status quo here in Washington that only works for those at the top, this majority is not fighting for you.
But we are.
Democrats
are on
your side,
and
we will fight with you every step of the way against the corruption, the lies, and the BS coming out of this administration.
and we won't back this so-called deal.
It's not a real solution and it is certainly not a clean Sierra.
Now there you go.
So I was encouraged by that.
But that didn't last long.
Let's listen to cut 76 here real quick.
This is Mikey Sherrill.
This
time I'd like to yield one and a half minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey, the next governor of New Jersey, Miss Sherrill.
A gentle lady from New Jersey is recognized for one and one-half minutes.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to a rule for a bill that does nothing to protect over 450,000 New Jerseyans who will see their health care premium skyrocket.
I took my first oath to the Constitution when I was 18 and went to the Naval Academy.
It's an oath to serve, to run toward the fight.
And so I ran for Congress after I saw Washington Republicans attacking the Affordable Care Act.
I promised I would take on the status quo.
I would fight the big fights because that's what people expect.
of their leaders.
That's what people deserve from their leaders.
Do not let this body become a ceremonial red stamp from an administration that takes food away from children and
rips
away health care.
For 30 seconds.
Generally, he's given another 30 seconds.
That rips health care away from people and takes food away from children to the country.
Stand strong.
As we say in the Navy, don't give up the ship.
Thank you, and I yield back.
There you go.
Don't give
up the ship.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Well, we all went down with that ship.
Apparently so.
Damn it.
Damn it.
What happened?
Oh, I don't know what happened.
I just don't get it.
It just makes you really upset and angry.
All right.
Well, hey, coming up in about 15 minutes, we'll be checking in with former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel.
We
heard from Doug out in St.
Francis.
There's a reason why the Epstein files haven't been released yet.
The Epstein files were going to be released in a box set, and they're still trying to come with the cover.
Is the cover on that?
The cover art's not working out for them.
They might use the Trump picture.
Good.
Oh boy.
On it goes.
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not to look over you Gordy in the morning.
I'm sorry about that Okay,
if you could have seen that on
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We want to hear from you.
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And we want to hear what the magas are thinking.
We want to hear people who support our point of view on this.
We want to commiserate.
We want somebody to please
help us, please.
6-0-8-8-7-9-8-2-5-5.
Such a big disappointment, the Democrats.
Please, please,
please.
Hey, CJ's on the line.
Well,
let's see what he's got.
All right.
Yeah.
Well, what do you got there, CJ?
Don't rub it in.
Don't rub it in that we gave up.
Yeah.
Oh, of course, you guys would never do that if it was on the other
foot.
No, no, we wouldn't.
We never have done that.
I've been a victim of that before.
Have
you?
You just
recall the last elections that just happened.
I think you did a little rubbing yourself.
We did.
You know, it wasn't that 44 days of, I guess, for nothing by Tammy Baldwin and Chuck Schumer and the rest of the Democrats.
44 days of pain and suffering inflicted for absolutely nothing
but what but wouldn't you also be able to blame the republicans because they're the other side of that it's a 50-50 thing they didn't voted they didn't fold
every time every time a clean
TR
but they didn't
first time it's ever happened,
but they knew they knew they knew they had to negotiate with the Democrats to get their votes So this would have been that one thing to negotiate the tax credits for the Affordable Care Act.
There's a there's a bright spot in all of this and that is when everybody gets
To the affordable care act and find out their rates are going right through the roof I don't think it's gonna be a big thing for the Republicans in the midterm elections.
Do you?
I think he's gone.
Oh My
point.
Okay.
Oh, is he there?
No.
No,
okay.
Let's go on to dick.
Yes.
Who is
on
line?
Good morning dick Go ahead
Well, congratulations on the fact that Johnson actually got him to come to work for the first time in how long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
And being paid for doing nothing the whole time, not like the rest of this country.
But real quickly to this app, this little triple that came on on the Epstein stuff.
On the one hand, Trump wants to tell you how he's just cognitively the most
brilliant.
This and
that and the
other thing.
Then you got thousands of pictures, all kinds of video of him with the guy and he doesn't know who he is.
I don't even know him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How can that both be true about him?
Well, yeah.
And in all the proof, I mean, we have pictures, we have correspondence.
We have actually Jeffrey Epstein saying that he is guilty of all of this stuff.
And of course, Mike Wolf.
Yeah, Michael will.
He's saying, well, you think he maybe should just hang himself and go out there and admit all this stuff, but...
Real quick,
too.
They just kicked the can down the road till the end of January, am
I
correct?
Right, yes.
And they're all patting theirself on the back over that?
Yeah, I
know it.
That's true.
Yeah, we gotta go through all this again.
And everybody's gonna have higher premiums to pay on the Affordable Care Act.
They're locked into it.
I mean, they've got to sign up by the 14th or 15th of December.
So, I mean, it's locked in.
And by that time, it's too late.
And those rates are gonna be high.
I don't think they're gonna be able to change them retroactively if they agree to those tax credits, which they never will agree to.
We're not suckers.
Well, I guess maybe we are.
They allow.
this to happen in the house.
Let's go back to the phones.
Trace is on the line from Portage this morning.
Go ahead, Trace.
Good
morning.
Good morning, fellas.
Real quick with health care, I've thought this for a long time.
If I never have to see another go fund me for a kid with brain cancer at a 7-Eleven check out stand for a kid that needs some kind of emergency surgery for terminal illness.
Take that
out of my damn taxes.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Thank you, Trace.
Trace, that's really important because that's all it takes, really.
It comes out of our check.
It's a little bit more of an increase on our FICA.
It's something that we all should participate in.
It brings the prices down for everybody, and we don't have medical bankruptcies anymore.
Right.
All right, let's get to, let's see here.
Oh, let's, I gotta get to this.
All right.
Trump called American workers stupid.
No, this is cut 78.
We got to hear this.
We got to get this in.
All right.
Trump called it and Laura Ingraham sounded like us trying to say, are you, you don't want to say that.
Let's, let's go with it.
There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.
The Republicans have to talk about it a lot.
And
does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?
Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands
or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent.
Well, we have plenty of talented people here.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
We don't have talented people here.
No, you don't have certain talents and people have to learn.
You can't take people off and unapply.
like an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory, we're going to make missiles, or I'm going to put you in.
How
did we ever do it before?
Well, let me just give you an example.
In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants.
They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.
Making batteries are very complicated.
It's not an easy thing.
It's very dangerous.
A lot of explosions, a lot of problems.
They had like five or 600 people early stages to make
batteries and to teach people how to do it.
Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
You're going to need that, Laura.
I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.
You can't just say a country's coming in going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years.
But you
can, you can.
And you know, these people are.
in the unemployment line.
Yeah.
Higher up.
We're coming right back with Jim Santel next.
WMDX 92.7 is John and Gordy in the morning down at the controls and you know we've been talking about the Democrats giving in here and it's just a temporary thing actually that we're going to be doing this all over again very very soon about
six
weeks and we've got you know we've got a few responses here the ACA premiums go up and the Dems will be blamed for caving
And that is from Kariantosa.
A total no-win situation for the Dems, and they were played.
GOP will not keep their promises anyway, and we know that, right?
So that's the problem there.
And then, of course, you know, Trump was talking about how dumb American workers are.
You don't just hire them out of an unemployment line.
I thought that's why we have unemployment lines is the higher people.
Anyway, he writes that the people from South Korea were here at that battery plant.
They were here legally and they were bounced out.
They were kicked out and South Korea is not real happy about that.
And yes, they were going to help train some of those individuals, but it's not like a class showing them how to make batteries.
You know, a
lot of
misunderstandings here.
But anyway, uh, let's get to our guest, Jim Santel, amicus law review.
You can hear his program on Saturdays between nine and 11 o'clock.
We have so much to talk about and get to in regards to the law and the legal system that we used to have in this, uh, in this country.
Good
morning, Jim.
Right, Jim.
Good.
I'm bad.
Happy note.
Good morning.
Good morning to you.
Yes.
You know, we were.
We're all kind of surprised at Kataji Brown Jackson's decision last week about the food
stamp program.
So
could you fill us in on the details of what she was trying to get to on this?
All right, so this comes out of the First Circuit, including Rhode Island, and that's where this district court judge, his name is John McConnell, had issued this order.
saying, President Trump, you need to fund this app.
You need to go into the reserve and get the monies in place.
Do it right now.
The First Circuit Court of Appeals, which is the court just above Judge McConnell, tinkered with a little bit, did not have a time.
Basically, handle it briefly.
And then the administration immediately went to the Supreme Court.
This is all happening within hours on Friday.
And he gets assigned to Katanji Brown Jackson.
Why?
Because she is the justice who is assigned responsibility.
for emergency applications coming out of that particular circuit.
Our circuit here in the 7th Circuit, ours is Amy Coney Barrett.
So what Kedanji Brown Jackson does, which, again, I think surprised a lot of people on the surface, but it was actually masterful.
She says, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to stay this right now, as is before the Supreme Court.
I'm going to prevent anything from going forward for what purpose so that we can have the Court of Appeals, the lower courts,
look at this and make a decision, right?
And so she it's an affirmation of the process.
It's telling the administration, you know, we can't just be emergency applications for everything.
And she also buys some time, but she also speeds things up.
And she also keeps it away, at least on Friday and somewhat over the weekend, from the larger majority on the Supreme Court, that would have simply granted the stay and be done with it.
it is still a mess, but it's a procedural vagary, if you will, regrettably in the time of Trump and all this, we need to understand that, to understand that Kenanji Brown Jackson was doing something to preserve the interest of those 42 million people.
It doesn't work in the end just because of the timing on all this.
And even to this morning, as the government is about to go back into effect, probably all of this mooted, but the administration backed the Supreme Court again just in the past couple of days.
it will probably all go away because we now presumably have funding for SNAP.
But it's important to recognize what Kedengi Brown Jackson did and what she did not do, which was not a band in this cause.
Well, you know, Republicans, the magas will, you know, say that it wasn't their fault with holding SNAP.
It was the Democrats' fault.
And yet all the all the time, Trump was fighting the SNAP program and fighting it.
I think that kind of makes it pretty obvious that who's to blame for that.
Right.
And to that great point, John, though, one of the interesting things, again, you have to keep this up to date and this hour by hour.
But even as Katanji Brown Jackson is sending this back, it's coming back, and it's clear now by, again, as you were just indicating, your private segments, that, yes, the government's going to reopen and the Democrats have conceded this, and we're going to get funding here.
Even while that's going on, this administration is still filing pleadings.
This lists our general.
with the Supreme Court saying, don't fund SNAP.
Do not do this.
And again, in fairness also saying, well, maybe it's all going to go away with the new funding here.
But it's going to happen.
And they're still taking the position as hours tick by.
No, do not go into this reserve.
do not provide health food on the tables of americans a stunning reflection of what this administration's position is
it really is uh and in talking about the supreme court here they made a decision they had a little conference could you explain
what
happened uh during
this again they they have what are called decision conferences they had one on friday of last week unfortunately john gordy and and uh
Adam, they do not invite us to be a part of that.
They should, but they don't.
They don't return phone calls, right?
Yeah.
So this is a private conference.
And I think they did a couple, we know about two things that they did very importantly.
One is they said no to Kim Davis.
So we're not going to be revisiting a same sex marriage and Obergefell basically turned down her appeal.
She was the clerk who refused to grant licenses many years ago.
So same sex marriage, privacy rights,
That remains in place.
Supreme Court says no on that.
That's public.
They also, however, grant a certiorari.
They decide to hear a case involving the mail-in ballots.
This one is in Mississippi that has a law that basically says, even after election day itself, for five days after election day, if the ballot is postmarked,
By election day, we counted.
Basically, the mail's a little slow getting there.
We're still going to count your votes.
There's a challenge to that.
And the Supreme Court said, yeah, let's hear that.
And again, it's an indication that when it comes to voting, you may get in another case.
We've got the larger Voting Rights Act case we talked about.
Another case is when coming out of Mississippi on whether or not the votes of every American, including those in Mississippi, should be counted.
if they happen to arrive after midnight on election day.
That's a big deal.
And the other one that, again, this is purely speculation, but hey, we do that a lot in America these days.
We do.
That's what we do on this program.
We talked last week about, and we're just in the aftermath of this major oral argument on tariffs, indicating that probably we've got a majority on the Supreme Court that are going to strike down the administration's tariffs, at least the way that they're doing
it.
They go into conference on Friday.
Again, this is just speculation.
What they normally do is after oral arguments, they would take an initial vote on how those cases are going to go.
And then the chief justice or the majority of justice would assign the case to someone to write up.
My guess is that given the decisiveness of this, they may well have voted on Tariff's last Friday.
And again, given the decisiveness of the oral argument, maybe it's been assigned
maybe it's being written even as we speak.
And it may indicate that sometime sooner rather than later we're going to get that decision.
Again, speculation based upon what they normally do at these conferences, it appeared that the vote that they would have taken if they did that would have said, Mr. President, you're out of luck.
You're not doing this properly.
And so it may have been a huge private day in American history last Friday, maybe written about down the road.
We'll see the results sometime soon, but tariffs may have already been decided by the Supreme Court just waiting to issue their decision once the large opinion and maybe the dissents are written.
Yeah, I know that Trump can do other things other than tariffs.
There are penalties and punishments for and for protecting some of the issues or some of the products that we have in this country, aluminum, wood, you know, and dairy.
Things like that, we can punish other countries for trying to flood our market with their products.
Right.
All kinds of things are available to an end.
And as we talked last week, it came up during the oral argument.
There are other options that he has, if he wants to do it.
They're not quite as broad as his location of this law is.
And they're more limited in time and scope.
And frankly, if you really want to do this, Mr. President, let's go back to the eighth grade when we used to learn about civics and just say, you know what?
I would like to engage the, let's all say it together, the Congress, gosh, there's an idea, right?
The Congress in establishing tariffs.
They're the ones who can do it, get some legislation, put that in place, and accomplish it that way.
Then you've got carte blanche.
Congress wants to do anything with respect to tariffs, taxes, excises.
Go ahead and do that.
That's what the Constitution says, do it the right way.
Again, if you don't do it under this IEPA, you do have some other limited opportunities.
Exactly.
Which again remain even after the Supreme Court decision, whatever it decides.
Well, it's crazy, you know, these tariffs.
We were talking about it the other day where, you know, the next president isn't going to have a handle on anything that he negotiated behind the scenes.
we won't know what to do.
That individual won't have any kind of written down guidance in regards to what we've agreed to with all these different countries.
It's insane.
This guy is micromanaging to a point where no one, apprentices, will never know what to do next.
Right.
What is the inventory?
What is our arrangement with all countries, with Canada individually, again with China, all those kinds of things.
And here's the other one that I think about even now.
We've got the tea leaves anyway of last Wednesday indicating that maybe this is all going to be found unconstitutional least in this way.
Suppose you're the finance minister of one of these countries who has suffered these tariffs and you are now negotiating with the leader of a nation where you know it's highly likely that the highest court in the nation is going to be invalidating the very thing you're doing right now.
What do you do as a foreign minister, a finance minister, a treasury minister?
You continue to negotiate.
You continue to say, yes, Mr. President, we'll follow this.
We'll put this together.
Or do you say, I'm going to look at my watch and see how soon it is before the Supreme Court tells us that all of this is unconstitutional and somehow has to be remedied.
The entire situation is untenable in every respect, regardless of whether you like tariffs or not.
It is a complete economic mess and legal mess as well.
Talking to U.S.
Attorney, former U.S.
Attorney Jim Santel, host of Amicus Law Review.
Jim, we're looking at some of the other cases here.
Before we get
to the other cases, I mean, we're looking at tariffs and these countries are also being forced to invest in the U.S.
as well.
And so now everything is on hold or has to be on hold.
We don't even know what would happen.
I told Gorda this a long time ago that they can promise that they're going to invest in it.
just wait for the next president to come in and
never fulfill those
promises
at all, right?
Absolutely, right.
And there appear to be a lot of promises being made about things that are going to happen in the future, right, America?
We're doing that on Capitol Hill as well.
Don't worry, we'll take care of it down the road.
It also underscores this problem, which we've talked about in many other settings, which is just generally, even if let's assume positively that there is a president, not Donald Trump, after his second term here,
If you're again a foreign country and you're saying, gosh, these are people, these are 343 million Americans who elected Donald Trump once, had a really bad experience, threw him out of the White House, elected him again.
And what are the chances that we can rely upon our former partners, again, Republicans and Democrats alike in the past, where we could at least rely somewhat on the consistency of major issues.
Here, once again, you're that foreign minister.
gosh am i going to throw my lot into this the greatest nation on the face of the planet the richest nation that is all over the map and could reelect another donald trump in a few years what is the incentive for consistency in all sorts of things that's the larger problem which everyone talks about
yeah we'll get to uh gordy's question we got to get to a few other items that you have passed along to
us
We'll be back with Jim Santel, former U.S.
Attorney on Johnny Gordy, WMDX, right after this.
WMDX 92.7 John and Gordy in the morning Dom is at the controls playing the music and I just got a text here from Doug on the south side of Milwaukee Yeah, and he said how will WMDX pay you guys now that Trump has discontinued pennies?
Something to ponder.
Well, you know, I was thinking about that myself.
Damn.
Take that up.
The thing is, you know, pennies are like made up of zinc more than copper.
Yeah.
They've copper plated zinc.
Is that crazy?
All right, anyway.
Our special guest, of course, is Jim Santel, Amicus, a law review Saturday, 9 to 11 o'clock.
Check that program out.
We've got a few more questions to ask, and let's talk about the dreadlock issue.
What is this
dreadlock case all about?
Remember that all these cases revolve around things that happen to individual people or companies corporations.
This fellow is named Damon Landor.
He's a Rastafarian and he grows his dreadlocks out for literally a couple of decades.
They're down to his knees almost.
He is incarcerated in Louisiana and when he is transferred from one site to another, he actually has a piece of paper with him and he hands it to the prison guards and says, this is proof of my religious accommodations that you've got to provide.
and this court decision from way back in 2017 says do not cut his hair this is a part of his religious liberty as even as a prisoner and they obviously prisoners have rights to right we need to reaffirm that on a regular basis well Louisiana they say what no they hold them down they shave all of his locks off and he files a lawsuit.
And he files a lawsuit under a particular statute.
And there are a couple of them out there that talk about these kinds of things.
And the question is whether or not this statute under which he brought his lawsuit provides him with relief.
And the two things happened, the Supreme Court.
Oral argument on Monday one is everybody expresses outrage that this happens horrified by the notion that that anybody would do this to him and condemns the corrections officers for doing it but but along the way they also look at at the statute of self and again at least the conservatives look at this and Say that there was a lack of notice get this to the states that their employees could be on the hook to pay for violations of federal
Religious protections because there's no notice on this probably mr. Landor is going to be told you do not have the right to sue under this Needless to say the three so-called liberals have a very different view of this and say no if you're violating the constitutional law You're violating frankly the first amendment freedom of freedom of religion you can you can recover It's a statutory argument.
It's a constitutional argument and it looks as if the Supreme Court at some point is going to tell
Mr. Landor, who's now begun to regrow his locks.
He was photographed outside the Supreme Court.
They're now down to his shoulders again.
He has been released since that time, but they're probably going to tell him you're out of luck.
Sorry.
Can't file a lawsuit under this particular statute.
Wow.
Okay.
What's that sounds like a bad outcome.
Yeah.
disappointing.
Yeah.
Especially in a time when we have no bad outcomes in America,
right?
They're all good outcomes.
Yes, I know.
We don't like bad
news every once in a while.
Now, here's another case, Jim, that maybe not a super big headline, but Trump is asking the Supreme Court to overturn the Eugene Carroll verdict.
I
thought this
was all decided.
months ago, years, couple of years ago.
Years ago, right?
Didn't we all think that, right?
But apparently we're wrong.
And again, this is E. Jean Carroll.
She is the journalist she's written.
books and columns, that kind of thing.
You may recall well, she alleges way back in the mid 1990s, Donald Trump raped her when she was at the Bergdorf Goodman store in Manhattan.
And again, what happens is that he that she writes about this, he defames her while he's in the White House.
His first term, she's not my type offensive things like that, says this never happened.
So she buys a lawsuit.
and comes in and out of this.
The federal courts are actually a couple of different jury verdicts.
This is a $5 million jury verdict.
This one has also been upheld by the Court of Appeals.
Again, to your good point, Gordy, we thought this was all done and the point was just OK, Donald Trump.
Now you've got to pay off on these judgments, millions of dollars for Eugene Carroll.
But what does he do?
He says, I'm going to seek review by my
My justices, the ones that he put on the court, these three of them.
And so he's filed a petition for review.
They should not take this.
There's nothing major in this case.
Aside from the fact it involves our president.
It's publicly notorious and horrific, but there's nothing legally that needs to be resolved here.
They should simply say, no, Mr. President, we're not taking this case.
It should go away.
And the lower court decisions
against Donald Trump, civil judgments, millions of dollars for defaming her should stay in place.
You know, there was a time when the Republicans were against taking everything to court.
They accused the Democrats of doing that and not using the legislative system of government, instead going to courts and having them make the decisions.
And they always complained about it.
I have a feeling that this administration, more than anything since 2016, has weaponized the courts because for whatever reason, and we know that Trump hasn't always been rich, he's got the money to go to court and just string these things out.
And I think that's what the case here that we're talking about, Eugene Carroll's case, is all about.
Just string this thing out and see what happens.
He's got the money to do it.
And as we talked before, the emergency docket is just a variation on that, right?
Robbing the lower courts of their capacity to resolve cases, entered judgments.
Let's run to the court and see if they will kind of overturn, stop these things from happening.
20, 23 cases like that as well, the shadow docket, which we've talked about.
Jim, we have to leave it there.
Thanks for joining us.
You can listen to Jim Santel Saturday mornings, 9 to 11 on the Civic Media Radio Network right here
on
WMDX.
Always a pleasure to have you in,
Jim.
Thank you.
Gentlemen, have a good Thursday.
Well, thank you.
We'll be filling in for Pete Schwabba tonight and tomorrow.
Tonight, special guest, Scott Dickers from The Onion.
That's right.
And tomorrow, Pam Yocke will join us along with Savannah Tome Olsen and Rocker with Maxing Preview.
Stephanie Miller is next.
We hope you have a great day.
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I have one more
store.
What?
No, we're out of time, John.
I'm just
kidding.
Time marches on.
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