Haunting Discoveries (Hour 2)

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Haunting Discoveries (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Tue Oct 21, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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It's

John

and

Gordy.

John and Gordy.

It's John and Gordy.

Coffee.

Yeah.

And if a place to go is in the stands, the student stands, boy, something we're almost naked out there.

What are you talking

about?

I'm watching video of it right here.

They have

a

film, somebody recorded it.

And the stands out there, I mean, the students were running up to the top of the stands, the big camperell.

Yeah, there's not a

lot of students out there, but once it did appear, you said, you saw this too,

right?

I did, yes, I saw that too.

And actually, my roommate went to the game, and he saw it for himself with his own two eyes, and yeah, it was legit.

Wait, were they naked?

So naked people, just guys in underwear.

Yeah, and their boxers, just...

I mean, what else do they have to root for you know, so Okay Just part of our world.

Okay.

Just as weird as it

gets.

There's

nothing else going on and I'm not winning so

why not?

Why not have a party?

Yeah.

All right, 92.7 WMBX It's John and Gordy along with Dominic Lee our producer seven minutes past the hour

We've got clear to partly cloudy skies.

It's chilly out there.

45 degrees rain this afternoon and this evening.

That's right.

The high near 50 coming up in about a half hour.

Talking to Tom and Christie Manus our friends who travel all over the state they go all over the world But they specialize in Wisconsin and we'll find out what they've been up to lately.

They've been

staycationing Yeah, all right.

Let's get to something really important.

This was one of the best speeches I've heard in a long time.

Okay,

this

was at the no Kings rally here in Madison the capital.

Yes, and he was like

the first speaker and just blew everybody's socks off.

Absolutely.

This is a pastor and judge Everett Mitchell.

And I pieced this together.

I got rid of some of the crowd noise and all this other stuff.

So it's down to about four minutes and 50 seconds.

But you know, it is, it is so good.

I just.

I gotta pass it along to you if you didn't hear it or you weren't there.

This is the kind of talent that we have here in the Madison area.

Judge Everett Mitchell, by the way, like Raphael Warnock, graduated from Morehouse College, so he's got some cred in.

And this was provided by Linda Ketchum, the one to thank her for sending this video along.

Let's listen.

again to judge Everett Mitchell, great speech at the No Kings Rally.

I recognize it calls as many of us to question what kind of nation are we living.

For many this moment in our nation and our world feels monumental if not suffocating.

The air is thick with uncertainty.

The anxiety being built after every five-minute news cycle or tweet and breaking headline, changing from one controversial and consequential issue to the next, is leaving the most passionate advocate grasping for breath with little or no time to organize.

Unwitnessing immigrant families living in the shadows of a nation built upon the DNA of the enslaved.

the blood of the indigenous, the sweat of the Asian community, the hands of the immigrants, and the whip of injustice.

Despite all of that major siege of mounting the only line of defense, you got to learn how to organize.

And yes,

organize, we must.

The temptation in this moment is to sit idle.

staring at the television and scrolling on your phone, tapping at the screen, just hoping that if we keep our heads under water long enough, the shadow will pass and normal will return to our shores.

But let me be the bearer of bad news.

Whatever normal was, is, or could be, is not returning to us.

We're not going back.

The only way is for us to go forward.

Because right now,

We are living in the redefinition of our democracy.

Right now, our legal systems are being retooled, reconfigured, and realigned to incentivize ultimate power.

From the United States Supreme Court all the way down to individual classrooms, the war for civil rights is being waged all over again.

So as we stand here on King Street...

It reminds us that the Voting Rights Act, the seminal legislation that sought to protect my vote, the black vote, your vote, everybody's vote of the marginalized, has been sliced and diced from one justice to the next.

And for what purpose?

Yeah, you better move about that.

And for what purpose?

If we think it is merely an attack on voting, you are missing the larger picture.

This is about power.

about consolidating it into the hands of a few who can control the outcome before it happens.

So this is not new territory of Wisconsin.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., in his letter from the Birmingham Jail offered an intellectual blueprints for how institutions consolidate power while people wait.

Dr. King smuggled from his cell.

He said, for years now, I've heard the word wait.

And it rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity, this idea that weight almost means never.

And we must come to see that justice too long delayed is justice denied.

So this is the message I want you to consider.

How are we using our time?

Yes, time.

Yes, time.

How are you spending your time?

Because make no mistake, our time is being stolen with algorithmic precision.

Time.

Attention space.

Time.

Reading durability.

Time.

The capacity to sit, think, refocus and reimagine the world.

Time is being stolen.

The calmness that allows for creativity to find us.

Time is being taken away and after scrolling for 30 seconds, it teaches a generation that if you don't want to face hard things, just scroll to the next one.

And the feed keeps feeding us.

It stars the very story that we need time to understand.

And while we scroll the system tightens, the black unemployment rate rises to the level that it was in 1968 as DEI programs are being gutted.

$350,000 of black women have lost their jobs in spaces that were created to bring inclusion.

And why is this the moment?

Because I got to remind you right now, Wisconsin, now is that time.

Because if now is not the time,

I don't never know when time is.

Now is the time.

Now is the time.

Now is the time for us to wake up.

The time to stand up.

The time to build up.

The time to sing up.

The time to live up.

The time to read up.

Beautiful.

Wow.

Just unbelievable.

Just, uh, you get goosebumps every time I hear that.

Just as

ever.

Inspirational.

Yes.

Wow.

Wow.

Yes.

The pastor and, uh, and a new judge.

So, uh, great, great speech.

Amazing.

So that was at the No Kings rally.

At

the Capitol on Saturday.

It was just a fantastic time.

I know Earl Ingram and Maggie had been involved as speakers in Milwaukee at their No Kings Day rally.

Yeah.

That's.

Wow.

That was an

electric moment

there.

I hope you

enjoyed it.

I know it was a little long, but it didn't seem long to me.

I mean, it was a great message.

That was amazing.

And all the way around the world in Paris, France.

Yeah.

What happened there?

They were also having a No Kings Day, and this is what they were singing.

Cut 170.

Let's listen to this.

So that's

what they

were singing over there in Paris, France.

No Kings Day.

Pretty impressive.

Yeah, emotional.

Also, Mallory McMorrow, she's a state senator, but she's running for the U.S.

Senate.

And she went out into the crowd on No Kings Day and did a few interviews, asked people what they thought.

Let's listen to, she's pretty good.

Let's listen.

Donald Trump and the Republicans are telling Americans that protesters are being paid to be at no-kings protests.

So we came to a no-kings protest to find out.

How much were you paid to be here today?

Absolutely zero.

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Zippo zero

nada.

I wasn't paid a penny.

It was my pleasure.

I

actually had to spend over a hundred dollars in this junk to be here.

A whopping zero dollars.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing

came out

for free.

Zero dollars.

Zero dollars.

I see a shirt that I think gives me the answer.

How much rebate be here?

Zilch.

I'm a registered Republican and I am not paid to be out here.

Not paid zero dollars.

Zero dollars.

So are you telling me that Donald Trump might have lied about this?

This?

Everything pretty much?

Why

are you here

today?

To

defend democracy.

Defend democracy and labor rights

labor rights.

Absolutely.

Yep.

So we came out here and we talked to dozens of people and we couldn't find a single person who was paid so I don't know who Donald Trump is talking about but we found a lot of people with a lot of good reasons to be out here protesting for our country.

All right.

We have it.

She's good isn't she?

Yes.

You know, she's running for the U.S.

Senate.

I think she deserves to be there.

She is a state senator in Michigan and great stuff right there.

Fantastic.

All right.

Well, you know, the No Kings Day, it was exciting time.

It really was.

And a lot of people were there.

Catherine was hanging out in

the March.

In fact, I think we have some sound.

I just sent you something here.

Oh, all right.

Moments ago, yeah, she was out before the rally.

And she was telling me that, you know, this as the March was coming up East Washington, yes, that that was an amazing site.

In fact, there was some video on Rachel Maddow last night from Madison.

Oh, that that high speed video of the marchers.

They showed that on

Ben.

Ben Winkler.

Oh, did he make that?

Ben Winkler did that.

He

walked through the crowd

and

he put it on fast forward.

Right.

And

it was just, wow, that was really impressive.

Yeah, they

showed that on metal.

That was

really

good.

We were gonna post that.

Duh.

And Catherine was talking with some protesters.

This was right at the early part of the rally.

All right.

Let's listen to that.

You got that?

Here we go.

I hope.

Do we have it?

Okay, stand by.

It's not coming up.

Do

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you

have it?

There we go

a little bit of sound there.

Anyway, that was, you know, people really came together on this one and pretty emotional at some points.

It

was, it was.

And my son,

a

great shot of the movement up East Washington Avenue.

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He was at the very top of the cap.

He climbed to the top of the rotunda somewhere.

The cap was open.

Yeah.

And he was up there in the rotunda on one of the balconies before they closed it off and recorded it.

It was just, wow.

That kid, you know a lot of those those after-school Doers really help We're gonna come back in just a few moments.

We have something from the dark left and it's

about

flash It's about fascism and how easy it is to just make it normal

Okay,

we'll

get to

that.

All right, and coming up in about 15 minutes, we will visit with Tom and Christie Manis.

They travel all over the state of Wisconsin, and they're gonna share with us some of the things to do this time of year.

It's coming up on John and Gordy on

Kathryn Lake

WMDX.

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It's John and Gordy in the morning.

John Peterson, Gordy Young and Dom at the controls

22 past the hour.

It's 45 degrees.

It's chilly out there this morning.

It's going to get windy again today and look for rain this afternoon and this evening a high of just 50 degrees today.

All right, we're going to get to the dark left in just a moment.

But first, let's go to the phone lines and we got Joe waiting for us.

Joe, what do you got?

Good morning.

Thank you so much for that speech that you had previously from Mr. Mitchell.

That was just absolutely stunning.

I'd love to have you return to that again at other occasions because what he had to say was just very, very inspiring.

I wanted to owe up to a mistake that I made on air yesterday when I was speaking up about Representative Galvalda from Arizona.

Speaker Johnson refuses to swear her in because once she's in, of course, that vote can happen, that allows the Epstein files to be voted on.

And boy, he does not want that.

So his latest is to say, I had said that she doesn't have key, you know, she can't get in her office.

I was wrong about that.

She can get into her office.

However, once she gets into her office, she doesn't have squat.

She doesn't have government email, no budget to hire people, no computers, no phones, no government website.

She can't do constituent services such as helping people with the VA or IRS or Social Security problems, which is a big part of what representatives do because she's not been sworn in.

Go ahead and do your job.

The phones don't work.

The computers don't work.

You don't have a staff.

But go ahead and do your job.

That's where he believes that she should be going.

And I wanted to let people know that the AG of Arizona is looking at this situation

and

the fact that those people don't have representation and looking at a lawsuit.

And it gets very interesting because you get into the weeds about

who can actually swear a member in.

And there was some talk by a representative from the Cato Institute, a very conservative institute that said, you know, technically, a notary public could do it because what you're saying is you affirm that you're going to, you know, honor the Constitution, all of the things that are part of that.

And it is customary to have the speaker do it.

And some would say legal by some points.

And this is where this is going to blow up.

There's going to be a big lawsuit about

who can actually swear her in.

And I thought, this is what we're spending our time on.

I cannot even believe it.

It's just, we're going to be spending our resources on, can you swear in a person who has been voted in by her people?

It's a shame.

It really

is.

It's a shame.

Just don't read this.

Thanks guys.

Thank you Joe.

It's not normal.

I can't think of any other case like this.

This has never happened before.

No, they rush it.

They usually rush

these people in.

Yes.

Yes, where I mean immediately no matter what right government shut down or not doesn't really matter when yeah This is a definite lawsuit now.

Let's go to the dark left and and I don't know who this guy is I think he's from Wisconsin because he's got a Wisconsin type team hat on stuff on the back wall so Whoever he is he's good and he he's talking about fascism and it's

how it becomes normalized in society.

This is really good.

Check

this out.

Okay.

They were taken during the height of fascism in Nazi Germany.

No insanity or chaos in every corner.

Just people buying bread or reading the newspaper or going to work.

And that's the point.

Fascism doesn't necessarily look like chaos.

It looks like normal life or something evil spreads quietly underneath it.

See, a lot of people say today, well, my town looks normal and my life's the same, but that's not how it works.

Sure, they see the chaos on TV, but then they turn the TV off, walk outside and say everything looks fine.

They drive to work and traffic is still bad.

That's how it fools you.

Fascism doesn't.

look like a movie, it looks like you're mourning commute.

And too many opt to ignore what the Trump regime is doing because it's easier for them to sleep believing there's no way we're headed towards 1930s Germany than to admit that this administration's actions are of a fascist nature.

For fascism to work, it needs your comfort, your avoidance.

It needs you to look away and think everything is fine because that's how it wins by quietly taking your freedom while convincing you that you still have it.

And now I got to say that when I heard that for the rest of the day I was very uncomfortable and I kept coming back to that Everything is normal.

Everything's just fine.

You know, nothing's happened.

I'm going out shopping later

on

still go to Costco Yeah, let's go to the phone lines again.

Hey, it's good to hear from pizza box Mike.

Hey, how you doing?

Good morning pizza box Mike

Great.

Yeah, no, I gotta tell you I talked to Everett Mitchell, right?

I guess moments before he spoke, you know, because I used to see him in the street all the time.

When I was in the fight for 15 Vosin De La Frontera, poor people's campaign, and the guy just lit a fire under me, man, I'm ready to go again.

This is the time.

I mean, we said that back in 2011 and 12.

If we don't stop this now.

We're going to be a fascist nation.

And of course, we were criticized for calling people Nazis who practice Naziism.

I mean, I'm tired of these clowns asking me to define it.

Open your dictionary clown.

It's right in there.

Yeah, it really is.

And in fact, it's all around as well.

Thank you, Mike.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good.

Yeah, it's it's creeping into our society, but it is.

It is a chilling effect.

And we see it all the time.

People

Dragged out of their houses other cars taken into unmarked vehicles by masked men and and they disappear and We

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are we are

by it and it really is it's the visual part of it that we're seeing that's just outrageous But at the same time we go along our lives.

We're shopping.

We're doing stuff all and and and it's becoming normalized We are accidentally normalizing fascism by not having it in front of us constantly and a reminder of it

So it's like scrolling, you know, you move on to

the next story.

If you're uncomfortable with the story you're on, you scroll.

There's no beginning or end to it, you just keep scrolling and rolling along.

Yeah.

Wow.

Scary times.

All right.

Well, we're going

to

get to less scary times.

Yes.

Well, right around the corner.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll take a break from all the politics here for a while and talk to Tom and Christie Manis.

Explore Wisconsin.

Yes.

They go all over the state.

They go all over the world, but we're going to focus in on what's happening in Wisconsin, especially this time of year with all the fall leaves changing colors and

Fun things you can do around the state.

That's coming up after we check in with the Midwest Food and Farm reports.

Stay with us for more of John and Gordy WMDX.

Nobody went DX ninety two point seven It's John and Gordy in the warning Dom at the controls.

Keep that up.

Keep it up.

I want to hear the the gas.

Yeah, here we go

There you go.

That's I feel better 735 Clear to partly cloudy skies this morning look for rain this afternoon high near 50 today.

That's it and it's gonna be really windy tonight

with the showers and moving on through and then weather.

It just clears up and gets nicer for the rest of the world.

Isn't that nice?

Yeah.

This time of year when it's fall, you know, the leaves are changing.

You want to travel around the state.

Who better to talk to this time of year than Tom and Christie Manus?

They are the authors of a couple of books.

One of them is Secret Wisconsin.

Yeah.

What's the other book titled?

Historic Wisconsin roadside.

There we go.

Yeah, it's fantastic.

It's good to have you back again.

Two great books.

We really have to check them out.

We love coming to see you guys.

No, you got up at what hour?

Did you start traveling from where you live?

Well, we left Eau Claire at 3.30.

3.30.

Thanks for making the effort to come down here.

It was for 20 minutes.

It's always fun.

We could

always stream you in here, but next time we're going to set up a tent in the lobby so

you can camp out a little bit

overnight.

It's a great idea.

You're roaming around the office.

Did you find anything out there?

Did you find some snacks and some coffee?

Well,

yeah, somebody needs to restock the Snickers.

Now they do, right?

OK, I agree.

I only found one.

All right.

OK.

Well, at least there was one left for you.

OK.

But now let's get to some of the, you know, besides just the books that you have here, you've got some new things for us here.

And I believe this is one of the great times of the year for me anyway.

I love Halloween.

I love ghost stories.

I love all of that.

The trappings.

Unfortunately, we don't get many ghosts and ghosts guests in here.

You know, I wish we could at least talk about spirit world and in hunting them down and stuff like

Yeah, but you've got something for us, right?

Oh,

yeah.

Where do you go?

What do you have for

us?

What

do you have for us?

Kind of

stuff.

When it comes to hauntings.

Well, there's this unique place in, do you say it, Wanna Walk?

Yeah, Wanna Walk.

Wanna Walk, yeah.

Wanna Walk, yeah.

Get right close to that mic there, Kirsty.

Yeah.

The spiritual camp.

Oh, sure.

Oh, I've heard of it.

Are you familiar with this?

I've heard about this.

I had never heard about this.

Yes, my sister lives in Reedsburg and they...

Yes, they've been talking about this for a couple of decades.

There's a spiritual camp up there.

They should call it Spook Hill.

That's what the locals

call it.

Spook Hill, okay.

No, see,

I never knew about it,

and I just

learned about it.

Well, Gordy never tells anybody anything.

Well, I don't know much about it, but I've heard about it.

I don't know what they really do there.

I guess

they have seances.

Yes.

And if the spirits are coming, that's where they're going.

for the most part.

Oh, I like the music.

That's perfect.

Thank

you.

You can stay there.

They have rustic cabins.

I'm not going to stay there.

But one of the cabins is lucky number 13.

Oh.

And it has a light bulb on the door

that

has been glowing steadily for like 30 to 40 years.

Yes.

Wow.

So they call it the living spirit.

I don't know.

That is

scary.

I'm

scared.

Yeah.

You know, I don't know if like my dad said he stayed at a motel where it was haunted as well and you know, just It was a pain in the ass dealing with ghosts, but you know, he did Now I don't know is this wanting

walk that is this open to the public or

you can go and walk the grounds.

It's free Supposedly spirits live in the

forest.

Yeah You guys going I'm not.

Oh, yeah, I would do it in a half second.

Yeah

Now have you been down to the Orpheum?

Yes.

You know that's haunted, right?

Um,

what's right

next to us here?

Yeah.

Yeah, right on the block, that's

haunted.

Yeah.

There's supposedly a Usher, a teenage Usher fell from the balcony and still can be seen sitting in a seat when there's nobody there.

Yeah.

But if you walk in and see him, he disappears.

the projectionist from way back when committed suicide in the projection room.

And he haunts the place and the way he does it is he moves things.

So there's things that are constantly moving around.

That's right down the road.

Yeah, I've seen a few movies at the Orpheum.

I

have too.

Sometimes the sound and the visuals are so bad that I feel like I've died.

And I think my spirit still haunts

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some of the

seating area.

What

are you talking

about?

They have improved the sound and audio and everything, and that's a beautiful theater

right now.

Is it open again?

Yes.

Oh,

it's a very active theater.

Yeah.

They have comedians in there.

They have special

guests all the time

down there.

Elvis Costello the other night.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Yes.

Well, they have lots of big acts there.

But

you can

see the ghost of me still traumatized by some of the audio of the movies I've seen.

How

was

the

focus?

Was the

focus okay?

No, the focus was bad, too.

It was not a

good theater at the point.

Now, up near us, just outside of Eau Claire, there is an Elk Mountain.

If you're driving on the interstate, it's on the north side.

You can see a big flag.

It's a two-story castle with a lookout on the top.

Wow.

But it's in our Secret Wisconsin book.

But this Elk Mountain Castle is what it's called.

It was dedicated to dead postal employees.

And what they did is underneath the flagpole, they have every single rural route.

I think if I remember right, there might have been 13.

Don't hold me to that number.

But they have dirt from each of those rural routes underneath the flag.

Wow,

nice.

And it has an incredible view.

You can, you know, walk up to roof, you know, look it up.

But it's also rumored to be haunted.

It's the rumor is a family was there and a ghost or somebody as they were walking down the stairs.

push the wife down the stairs and they witnessed it and they said well yeah there was nobody around but it was obvious something pushed her and it has you know weird sounds at night also weird lights at night screams in the woods you know things like that

so where is

this it's an elk mound it's it's just west of Eau Claire a few miles okay right off the interstate

yeah

Well, that's scary.

Okay.

All right.

Well, anything dealing with post-employees is scary.

Matt, are you

listening?

The caller Matt works for the post.

Okay.

Next, what else you got?

Well, up around Baraboo, I know they have a lot of ghosts too.

We've talked about that a number of times.

Well, isn't there a bar?

That's pretty haunted.

It's like the most haunted place in

Wisconsin.

You can't think of the name of it, though.

Is that near Baraboo?

Is that what we're talking about?

Yeah, I can't remember the name of it.

OK.

Well, down by Delavan.

Yeah, Delavan.

What's

that?

There's the Circus Cemetery.

In

Delavan?

Right, there's Crown Cemetery.

There's two cemeteries.

And both of them have, I mean, it was a huge

a wintering home for circus

performance

and stuff.

And so both of the cemeteries have a lot of circus performers there and each one is marked with a sign, you know, it tells about the performer and the name and so forth.

But it's also haunted.

Yeah, that's scary.

If you think about it, clowns haunting.

I know that

that is a frightening thought

right

there, you know, a spring grove cemetery.

And St.

Andrews is the other one.

Yes.

Yeah.

OK.

Well, there was a movie way back when in the 60s called Circus of Horrors.

Yes, I

remember that.

And then, of course, there's Killer Clowns from Outer Space.

Well,

that sounds

interesting.

That is actually a really great movie.

Okay, I never would've guessed.

I thought it'd be something like a Sharknado

movie.

It is, but the clowns are just really the scariest looking clowns you'll ever see.

Well, I don't like any clowns, so I don't want to see a scary

clown.

Well, no,

yeah.

I'm looking at this Delavan cemetery and they're talking about, okay, people have claimed to see ghosts of acrobats, clowns, and even horses wandering through the cemetery at night.

Yeah,

if you want a unique haunted experience, yeah, that's definitely one of them.

Yeah, OK, Delavan Spring Grove Cemetery.

And those are in our historic Wisconsin roadside

book.

And I believe that they pass out 3D glasses at the at the gates.

I'm just thinking

of

13 ghosts.

They had a circus performer who put his head in the mouth of a lion.

Yeah.

And in the lion chomped down on

his head.

Didn't work

out that

time.

Well, ironically, at the park, Tower Park in Delavan, they have a bubbler that's the mouth of a lion.

Oh, really?

There you put your head on that.

It's kind of

scary now.

No, I'm not even going to do that.

OK.

It's obviously, you know, a fall.

What else you got for

us?

Well, have you guys been to the Wonder Bar?

Yes, yes recently closed Where's that that was on the old one and

John Nolan right here in town.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Oh that

one.

Okay.

Yeah, tell us about that That

was a really cool place.

It was right near the Coliseum, right?

Yeah, it looks really good.

We haven't been there, but it looks really

really old

building.

Yeah, it's got a lot of history Yeah, it was

yeah, they bought it in 1929

so it was a competitor for

Who was it the gangster in Chicago?

Al

Capone.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah, how can I forget?

Yeah, yeah, it was it was competitive for him really In the North Chicago area Well, he sent his brother up to open the the North Tower and so it had you know, if you remember it had the turrets on both sides Yes, and they had little slots for the Tommy guns the Tommy machine guns really easy and And there's a lot of things that happen

at this wonder bar.

One is underneath it, it said that there was a tunnel that went to Lake Mandoda where a lot of people supposedly lost their lives that crossed them.

And also the one of the brothers is they he disappeared and they think that he's buried or was buried in the walls on the second floor next to the fireplace.

So it was it was notoriously haunted for years.

Until it shut down and

and major major Mafia names also visited babyface Nelson.

I mean all the big names They used to frequent but

I think I've passed by there.

It's still it's still there.

It's just yes, right?

Yeah, it's boarded up.

Yeah

Talking with time and Christie Manis You guys travel all over Wisconsin getting some texts here about the it was the old bearable in

in Baraboo, that's

Kathryn Lake

the bar,

and that's still there, and that still opens

Kathryn Lake

for

haunted tours, and you can still drink there too.

And the church key in Madison, just down the street on University Avenue.

Oh wow,

never thought about that

one.

All right, well, anything else this time of year, as far as, you know, I mean, the leaves are changing.

We can talk about more haunted things if you have them, but...

We have all kinds of stuff we can talk about.

Well, this time of year, the leaves are changing.

I know a lot of people head to Dora County, but there are other places, of course, everywhere.

Oh, yeah, definitely.

Check out them.

And if you know

us, you know, that we like the things that don't necessarily show up on the first few pages of Google search, right?

You know, the Delft or counties, you know, things like that.

Well, yeah, let's go a little deeper.

I

found one, you know, it's the it's the boy with the leaking boot.

Yeah, what's that about?

Yeah, then we just love weird things.

You know, tell us about that.

Well, Stevens Point bought the boy with the leaky boot in the 1800s.

Yeah.

And

what is it?

What

is

a boy with a leaky poof?

It's a statue.

We've got a minute here, but keep going.

It's

a statue and it pours water out.

And supposedly it was from like the Civil War or whatever.

Anyway, Stevens Point got it.

It was in disrepair.

It used to be in the center of Stevens Point.

The fire department took it over, put it in front of fire station number one.

Right

downtown.

Yep.

And the original is in the basement because people with the campus there.

People kept stealing

it

decapitating it.

So they put I know so May through August it's out other times it's in the basement.

They have to bring it in during school.

Okay,

that is such a cool thing to see.

I'm gonna have to look for

that.

All right.

Can you stick around a couple more minutes here?

All right.

We're gonna keep Tom and Christy with us.

We'll be back with more of John and Gordy right after this on WMDX.

Kathryn Lake

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Tom and Christie Manis are with us today.

They have a couple of books out secret, Wisconsin and road sides What is it wrote historic

Wisconsin road

sides?

Okay.

It

was close.

Yeah don't have it in front of me 92.7 WMDX a few more minutes here with Tom and Christie, so Let's talk a little bit more about

We mentioned yo-yos.

We were talking about yo-yos during the break, and you brought a yo-yo with us to remind us.

That's right.

Everybody

loves a yo-yo.

Who doesn't?

Yeah, it's a wonderful story about dunking yo-yos.

It is.

From 1946 to 1964, they were made in a little town in northwestern Wisconsin called Luck.

Luck?

Luck.

Population 900.

900.

Wow.

Everybody worked there, and they made about 70,000 yo-yos a day.

A day

a day 20 million a year during those years.

No, this is before cell phones

We

had nothing else to do

Play with your

yo-yo

I have

a huge collection of Duncan yoyos.

I was really you

know, and I was not that good But I really tried to be that good some lit up.

They had sparkles in it Of course they went up there in luck Wisconsin because of the wood

they did because they were made of wood at the time

sure and maple is what they

the one at the hardwood.

So

that

was the ideal, ideal wood for the yo-yos.

And the reason they shut down is they started to lose popularity.

So a company, Flambeau, bought them and made them out of the plastic that it is today.

And I believe Flambeau.

Flambeau is unbearable, I believe.

Yeah, Wisconsin company.

Oh yeah, they

make tackle boxes and stuff like

that.

There's

a museum there.

You can go see the museum.

The world's largest yo-yo

is in the museum.

It's

actually,

it's a smock.

In luck.

In luck.

In luck.

In luck.

How big is the largest yo-yo?

Pretty darn big.

Waste,

waist

high

maybe.

Yes.

Now the thing is, they were made out of wood initially, but it wasn't at Duncan.

What's his first name?

Dan.

Don.

Don

Duncan.

Don Duncan.

Wasn't he in the ads?

Ford Duncan Yo-Yo for a while?

I think so, yeah.

He was also, he also invented or created the good humor.

Good humor.

Yeah, with the ice cream.

Yeah,

that's

something else too,

yeah.

They moved the factory from Chicago to Luck because they could find workers for one, but it's also right there where the wood was.

Yeah,

yeah.

And then I was wondering, did...

They changed the plastic and the plastics and the acrylics while he was still in charge of it or was just

flambeau at

that point.

It was after that.

All right, just had to know.

No one cares.

Come

on, we care, right?

Well, we were talking about tops too.

At the same time, they had the yo-yo craze going on.

We had tops.

Now you said the yo-yo was still very popular.

Where is it popular still?

In the Philippines.

OK,

all right.

It's

crazy popular.

Really?

Wow.

And they're doing all the tricks

and really

keeping it going.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Anything else?

What do we got?

A couple of more minutes here.

Oh, Cozy N.

Yeah,

that's what we were going to talk about.

Okay.

So the, um, Lucky Yo-Yo Museum is in our book, Secret Wisconsin, as is the Cozy N in Jamesville.

And the Cozy N is, is a Chinese restaurant that everybody drives by, you know, every day.

But it's the second oldest Chinese restaurant in the same location in the United States.

And it's also the oldest Chinese restaurant in Wisconsin.

But the thing is, we call it traveling egg rolls because people are, they're notorious for ordering, you know, 10, 20, 30, 40, even 100 egg rolls at a time to take back on the plane when they go home or in the car on a road trip in coolers.

And they're that famous.

And we actually had a friend of ours in Northwest Wisconsin.

She came down here and bought 48.

Put them in the cooler because she's doing everything in the book.

Or they're doing everything in the book.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

And they

invited us over for dinner and shared them.

But the story not only is about the egg rolls.

The owner's mom was a famous Chinese chef at Toy's Chinese restaurant in Milwaukee.

I don't know if you remember

that.

Sure.

Cool.

I think it was a six-story building, but that's also in our new book coming up in the spring.

But she wanted to buy a restaurant so she found the one and knew the people that own the Jameswell restaurant the cozy and she bought it her kids grew up there as teenagers But an interesting fact with this is Tom Fong and his wife Amanda Tom is the son they run it now and his dad was a One of six Chinese survivors from the Titanic And they said that he was the last person rescued from the wreck

They found him floating on a door, strapped on what they think was a state room door, but he was strapped on with a belt.

So there's a lot of history there.

But the thing is, when you pass something, you have to look deeper and go, hmm, is there a story here?

Sometimes there's not, but oftentimes things you pass every day have a story.

would blow you away.

Yeah, that's really

interesting

because

it's there and you discovered it in some way she performed because other people have discovered it.

How are the egg rolls though?

Oh, they're incredible.

They're very good.

They must

be

really

good.

Are they big, small, long?

They're big.

They're handmade every day.

No kidding.

Right.

It's a two-day recipe and they have a hint of peanut butter.

That's kind

of stupid.

I mean a two-day recipe.

Yeah, it takes two days to make.

It does.

It's a family recipe that takes two days.

Wow.

And

it's not like the process.

Once you get now and you get off the truck,

it's

it's actual, you know, cabbage and pork and stuff.

Yeah.

And if you want to see more about it, we we do a show with NBC or TMJ for NBC Milwaukee, where we take Stephanie Brown around to these places and introduce them to them because the end was one of them.

So

very cool.

That's great.

I have to look for that.

All right.

Well, we're out of time, but Tom and Chris, do you have a new book coming out in the spring?

Yeah, tell us about that.

What's the name of it?

It's Lost Treasures of Wisconsin.

Okay.

It's about things that aren't here anymore, but everybody has good memories of

it.

And people want to find out more.

How do they find out?

You got

Facebook?

You can go to Tom and Christie Manus on Instagram.

Our website is smalltownplussize.com.

You can order the books from our publisher, Reedy Press.

Just do a search for us.

You'll find us everywhere.

Very good.

Tom and Christy Manus.

Christy with a K if you're googling, okay, right?

Okay, and we depress is R E E D Y. Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Thanks for joining us.

Thanks for coming.

Come

back.

Anytime.

Really?

Want to come back tomorrow?

Yeah, sure.

No, just kidding.

Try back down.

Oh, we love

coming down.

All right.

That's going to do it for us.

Stephanie Miller is next tomorrow on our show.

Mike McCabe will join us because it's Wednesday.

Okay.

All right.

Have a great day, John.

All right.

I will.

OK, see you later.

So long, everybody.

So long.

Christie, huh?

Good day.

Good to have

Kathryn Lake

you.

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