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This is the John and Gordy Show on 92.7 WMDX.
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like confidence, but it's really a massive amount of insecurity.
That's what it is.
Johnny Gordy in the morning.
This is WMDX 92.7 another fantastic looking day.
Oh my gosh, you're on a 65 degrees high temperature.
It's kind of warm and balmy out there right now.
We're at 53
currently feels good.
Yeah, feels good.
It's cloudy.
We may see some showers along the way today and highs in the mid 60s 64 for a high.
Tonight the Madison Night Market takes place last
one of the season.
Yeah, it's
very last one.
Oh, it's hard to believe.
I know.
And we'll be out there broadcasting.
Yeah.
Well, not broadcasting.
We're going to be there shaking hands and kissing babies, you know, tap dancing, singing songs.
And during
the
age of COVID, we don't kiss babies anymore.
I guess we don't.
Yeah.
No, we gave that
up.
Yeah, we finally gave that up because of, you know, the Epstein.
Files.
The
night market tonight has a bad look, man.
It is a bad look.
Yeah, you're right.
It's a science theme tonight.
There's a science fair that's going to take place.
Science up on the square.
There'll be some kids with science projects.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And because it's Halloween, or almost Halloween, a lot of people may be dressed in various costumes.
Dom, I know you're going to be dressed as what?
An eggplant?
What is it?
No, a bucky.
Oh, bucky patch.
I got a onesie, so I just watched it.
I'm surprised you're not wearing it this morning.
I was, I was afraid.
Were you thinking about it?
Yeah, I was thinking about it, but then I wanted to, I have it on the couch right now, ready to go for later on today.
Okay, well, it's good, good to have it out ready to go.
God.
John, you got your, you got a spider.
I do, I have my,
my, my Spiderman t-shirt is on today.
That's good.
Um, yeah.
We had we had a great experience coming back from a comic con.
No, didn't you one year?
We came back and it was Halloween downtown and and this was about maybe four years ago or so and I was a doctor strange and We're all dressed up as Avengers and my son my youngest son very tall six four
and he had on a Spider-Man outfit, which is more like the hoodie that Spider-Man wore before he got the costume.
and the mask and everything.
And he was, he looked so much like Spider-Man.
You know, he's tall, thin, six, four.
He's walking down the street on stage three.
We're all walking down the street like the Avengers.
And people are shouting at him.
Hey, Spider-Man, save us.
You can save us, Spider-Man.
It freaked him out, totally freaked him out.
Especially when the drunk guys downtown started yelling at him.
My Spider-Man, we love you!
You know, all this stuff.
So he is a little gunshot.
We're in the Spider-Man outfit again, which we've been asking him to do.
But yesterday, he went out shopping as he does now because he has a car and he's getting used to driving to a store himself.
So he picked up on the mask, the Guy Fulks mask, from V4Fendetta.
And he has two of those masks because they were two in a package.
And now I get a guy
folks
mask.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's cool.
One of the great movies of all time.
If you have to see any movie at all, it truly is V for Vendetta.
It is unbelievably good.
I've not seen
that.
And it's just like today with Trump in the White House.
It is just outrageous.
You haven't seen that
one?
No.
No.
Well,
I've seen the Matt the mask looks really cool though that anointing is Matt.
Yeah, I'm sure
Wow.
Yeah Anonymous uses that mask.
Yeah for for a while.
I haven't seen anonymous
Face-wise in a long time Anonymous was out there like maybe five or six years ago Releasing videos and and I think he was during the first Trump administration Put out videos and they do something with the voice and it was scary as hell I mean every once in a while, you know come out and really rail on the administration in that crazy low voice But yeah,
well
anyway
Yeah, yeah, well get ready for the night market tonight tripping down memory lane
sure, you know watching anonymous on YouTube
Well, you know, we were talking about this a few days ago about how we should bring back Halloween on State
Street.
Yes.
You know, those were the days.
Those
were the days.
It was jam-packed.
I couldn't believe how this
city just, uh, just hated it.
Well, it was a lot of cleanup to do.
There's broken windows every year.
Well, that's kind of what happens after a
big celebration.
I mean,
what's new with that?
Right.
Come on, every city has like a giant celebration that they have to clean up after.
We had the Halloween celebration of the country.
tree, people would hire buses to come in from other states and come here and just dump down on state
trees.
It's just
unbelievable, really.
Make the lights unclimable, right?
If you're worried about people climbing up on the street lights,
what are they going to do?
Grease them up or something?
That was one of the big
problems.
I don't know.
Put a little squirrel barrier.
Work
for Squirrels should work for Demons.
Spray some hippy d-40 on that sucker.
I
don't do it.
I don't
think so.
We got a text here from Mark in the sack.
He says, I wonder if it'll be safe to wear my Guy Fawkes mask Saturday for no kings.
Oh, he's coming with a no kings mask.
That's where
I think I'm going
to wear it.
That's where my son
wants to wear his and he wants to go to the...
No Kings
protest mark says he but he has one of those one of the good ones that he bought for the act 10 protests
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Well, this is just a big event down here all over the place Now if you're going to the no Kings protest, okay, that's a salary just hold off on cashing your checks from
George Soros, you know, you never know.
You never know.
They might be tracking people around.
So if you wait a little while, you can cash a check anonymously someplace and no one will say, oh, gee, you're one of them.
You're, you're an Antifa.
Paid protester.
George
Soros,
writing checks.
You
know, I look, this is so hard for me to even comprehend.
I'm serious about this and I should go off on this for the entire damn morning.
How Trump and the administration is trying to turn protesters into Antifa agents who are hired by George Soros.
Come on, you can't make this stuff up.
Oh my God, please help
us.
Crazy, crazy.
A little bit later on, we're going to be talking to Tim Slacker and just about to.
20 minutes, he'll be joining us from Busted Pencils, a great podcast, talking education.
I heard
something really interesting on public radio.
It is something out of actually a sock prairie, I believe.
I could be wrong on that, but there is a story about how children like one to two to three years old should be kept away from monitors, screens, phones.
tablets probably.
They shouldn't be playing on them at that age yet.
And it's because children learn how to talk.
They learn how to speak by watching us formulate the words with our mouth.
They watch our mouths.
And it helps them articulate and become good talkers.
So you got to keep them away.
This is what they're finding out.
And a lot of
speech therapists are not being called up in order to help these children out, especially in sock for some reason.
But this is happening.
So I want to talk to Tim about that.
I think
it's kind of interesting that maybe this is a huge problem.
So we got to watch out for that.
I gave my kids tablets immediately as soon as possible.
It was just when tablets were starting to turn out, you know, they started selling them and they were from Japan and they didn't allow
Google Apps on it.
Hmm.
So you had to if there's a PKV or PKG or some some kind of software you add on to the tablet in order for it to break down and add a Google app.
So how old
were they when you gave them the tablets?
Oh, young six, five.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, well, you know, it was a it was a big tech thing, you know, and I really want them to be on the cutting edge of tech.
Talking
about
when
did you
yeah early on to probably around seven or eight?
Yeah, yeah, and then I built my own PC.
I built my own desktop Yeah,
they're rare inexpensive when
you do it
yourself and
still have that PC.
I don't I don't I had it about eight years ago eight
years ago Well, we still build ours.
In fact, we build all our PC really.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yep
And it was probably my son wanted to build them.
And I thought, really, we're going to build PCs?
And I always, always thought that each component of the PC was specially crafted for each other.
And they had to match.
And they had.
They don't
matter.
Yeah.
The manufacturers had us all thinking that way
back
when, you know, of course your gateway 2000.
Yeah.
And
I actually, in my old PC, I had this thing called water cooling.
Yes.
Yeah.
And there's like water inside built into the PC to keep your, uh, you know, your hardware from not overheating.
Yeah.
Did you have a RGB?
I did.
I
did.
Yeah.
All around the
PC.
You
know, I don't have no idea what you're talking about.
Well, that's
a light.
Those are LED lights, colored lights.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, you can really make it into a special event.
Yeah.
Of course, you never turn them off.
So
it was like strobe lights in my room.
It was
awful.
What was the first popular PC?
Was that Commodore 64?
Was that was that a PC?
I don't remember though.
Yeah, I remember the
Atari games.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
All I know is Gateway 2000 was the computer to get.
Because of the cow box.
The cow boxes
were
very popular
here in Wisconsin.
Very popular, yes.
Apparently the first PC was the Altar 8800.
The Altar?
Yeah, I have no clue.
It's a
cool name.
Never heard of Altar.
Atari?
I'm
sure
it's not Atari.
Not Atari.
I'll tear.
I don't know.
Here's the thing.
This morning, both my boys were up.
Really?
Yeah, and my son is having a problem with the sound card that he has.
Oh,
no.
He doesn't use the one that comes with the computer.
He has a special one, but it's starting to
have problems, the software, the updates aren't working anymore and it's cutting out, so he doesn't have that and uses his headphones most of the time anyway.
But yeah, they're both up there.
I mean, eating breakfast and these guys are talking about this stuff.
Really?
And how bugs are going after my my youngest son.
They have they have an attack plan of some sort.
I went out to the mailbox.
He has his own mailbox now.
And I got his mail out.
There was this stink bug on it.
Oh, no.
And see, he has problems with stink bugs in his apartment.
Now they're in the mailbox.
They're out to get you.
Is this
the upstairs
apartment?
Yes, he has the
upstairs.
The other one
has the downstairs.
Going to call in the fumigators?
No.
Would they ever call into the show ever or no?
No, no.
Communicate with the outside world.
Pretty much in the bunker.
Dad does that thing.
I don't know what he does.
OK.
Well, we're just getting started on this.
Thursday morning, it's 19 minutes past the hour.
And when we come back, we'll check the WMDX Samsung watch for the sunrise and sunset times.
I can't wait.
And Tim Slecker in about 15 minutes from Busted Pencils.
It's all on John and Gordy on WMDX.
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Um, it's a 23 past the hour.
We've got cloudy skies, maybe some rain along the way highs in the mid sixties this
morning.
We have chances for rain.
Yeah.
Today and tonight, actually.
All right.
Keep an eye out of the sky and an ear right here.
Got the inside on the outside,
whether you like it or not.
I love that.
Okay.
Sunrise time, sunrise time,
seven, 13 and, uh, and sunset time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Six.
13.
Wow, that's early.
Grab that umbrella before you head outside.
We even said glasses at home if you're leaving tonight.
We got a text from Doug in St.
Francis.
He says, has Gordy even had a tablet?
No, I have not.
And he's proud of it.
Yeah, I am.
OK.
Project
2025 Agenda 47 is V for Vendetta's authoritarian government.
That's, uh, that's Mark and Mark also said, no violence, do not respond to any ice jackass.
Provocations.
Okay.
Okay.
And, uh, Mark also says I'm uncomfortable when I see all those toddlers on the screens.
They're planning their demise.
They don't even need to do anything anymore.
Uh, my first day here, I got here on electricity that I pumped into that car.
Oh yeah.
Overnight with my new home charging station.
Everything work okay?
Yeah, it worked beautifully.
Oh my gosh.
The tentacles that this whole thing has, honest to God, I don't know how they tie all this stuff together.
You know, I'm into technology, but I don't know how they're doing half of this stuff because, uh, uh, you know, I have there, there's an app for my car.
It's called Kia Connect.
Okay, and I don't know if other manufacturers have these things, but you can control your car remotely from inside the house and blah blah blah.
So anyway, I am an MG&E customer and because of that they have a special that you can sign up for if you want to charge your car overnight during the lower
electrical rates.
Oh, okay.
And so I thought, well, that's kind of cool.
And I didn't know about that.
And I found out and I signed up yesterday in order to get in on that program because MG and he uses wind power, by the way.
Or at least they say they do for these particular chargers.
So here, here's the thing.
Then they told me, well, you know what?
So sign in to our site with your Kia Connect app login.
Yeah.
And then we will use that in order to sign you up for our MG&E special charging program.
Okay.
And then do not schedule late night charging on that new charging station you have.
Leave that off because we as MG&E will control your charging times.
Let's take over.
Okay.
Isn't that wild?
Yeah.
And then they log in to my Kia Connect.
in order to, I don't know what, turn me into the government someday.
I have no idea why there's this connection at all, but anyway, they charged overnight.
Yeah, and it's just
smooth as hell.
So I have a, you don't have a garage.
I don't, no.
So is this thing on the outside of the house?
Yes it is, we attach it to the side of the house.
How does it stay protected from the weather?
It's a waterproof station.
It's very solid and there's a holster and you put the charger in the holster.
And that's the only question I have.
I wonder will ice or whatever get
inside that
holster because that is not protected.
But anyway, yeah, it's got a 25 foot cord.
Stretch it out to the car and charge it up.
Cool.
It's
really cool man.
I'm there.
They have all kinds of flashing lights on it and stuff.
It
does actually.
The car has a flashing light, a gauge that shows you how much charge is taking place.
Plus it has lights and gizmos on the
box itself.
You know what they all mean.
You
can see them blinking
RGB.
Is there a big
manual you had to read?
No, no.
It's all automated, believe me.
It works off of Wi-Fi, it does.
It works off of that and you have to kind of connect all the gadgets together with Wi-Fi.
So could somebody just I mean when you're away, can you you should get one of your kids to rent it out to other you know You did not have a charging station and charge from you know people can charge up their cars when they
have a Middleton Celebration of some sort they can stop by and charge up their cars.
I've heard people do that.
I people are people all the time Yeah, they charge people for their chargers charging station.
Yeah
Are they
all of one brand?
I mean, they all work with all different cars, electric cars.
Yeah, the fitting, the holster, what you plug into your car is a standard type of brand.
Except for Tesla, they have a different version.
And I don't know if they're all high charging or not, but these are level two chargers for your home.
There's a level three, which is a fast charger.
Level one is just like a plug, the plug into the wall.
You can take it on vacation and at least have something where if there are no chargers any place, you at least have this one.
You can plug into a wall or, you know, but yours is the step up from that.
Oh yeah.
It's a level two.
And, uh, and, but I have a 100 amp system in my home
and you
have to have a special gadget Gizmo, which is what I have, which allows you to charge.
And it keeps track of your amperage in your home so you don't set the house on fire.
Stuff like that.
It didn't take very long for you to get this set up.
What, six weeks?
Eight weeks?
A couple of months?
It took me way too long.
This is a two-month process of learning.
It's pretty inexpensive, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
6.29.
Well, thanks.
When we come back.
I'm asking though.
We're going to talk to you.
Tim Slacker from Busted Pencils find out the latest on education.
Stay
with
us.
What's to do?
For a while while we can dream anyway.
Yeah, that's why we're not a free country anymore John and Gordy in the morning that we have Dom at the controls and our special guest this morning, of course is Dr. Tim Slecker from busted pencils and we talk about education from an educator and I you know, I don't know how to say how you guys say that stuff What's your big slow?
Educated educators talking education.
There you go.
That's it.
That's it.
It's a simple
as that.
It's 635, 53 degrees, highs in the mid 60s today, maybe some scattered showers along the way.
Okay, let's get to Dr. Tim Slecker.
The big debate, I think even in this state, they're worried about, in fact, there's legislation about cell phone use in schools.
And that's
a big topic here.
They presented a bill, I guess, to the governor.
So what's going on nationwide?
Yep on this I know that you were talking about and one of your on the podcast I believe on Monday you were talking about Denmark being ahead of the curve on this thing
Yeah, I I mean the whole part of that I mean Denmark really is going to the point of you know, it's a full social media age restriction ban, but you know kind of bringing it back to cell phones in school and
People were like, ah, you know, what are the kids gonna do if they need to contact home?
I I don't know before cell phones.
What did we do?
We actually didn't contact home and we're probably better off because of it and My mom couldn't annoy me during the day when I went to school
um you know where some kids now are going like geez mom stop sending me text messages all day long um you know and so
i mean
come across people are i i've had some people go like you're a you're for the cell phone band and i'm like yeah why i really am because i think about um what's
not happening because of the cell phone usage in schools and It really is an isolating toll and anybody who has particularly, you know the smartphones knows exactly what I'm talking about the ability to lose yourself in the screen is something that's real and now you imagine
the school setting with you know 25 to 30 others and then during breaks you know with the whole school and the fact that every kid is kind of buried in that isolating screen when the reason one of the biggest reasons we're grouping kids in big groups like this is to give them the socialization opportunities of being in a school building if not
go to a cyber charter school, I guess, right?
Or something like that.
But when you're in there and so just from that point alone.
I say, yeah, you don't need a cell phone while you're in school.
You need to be present with your friends, with the bullies, with the people you're bullying, with the teachers, with the, you know, the whole experience.
So put that out there.
And then the other part of it is, is to say,
what's happening during the day when you're sitting in class and you've got your computer open and you're checking Facebook and you've got your cell phone dinging with these things.
You know, you can't pay attention.
It's a distraction.
Yeah.
But what I like about this is that the uproar and the reaction by the kids and where this is happening and going,
Oh, man, we really like it.
Yeah, the
kids are actually on board with this.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Gordy, yeah, you're listening and looking.
It's just like, you know, it's all, you know, all
the
parents go, oh my God, what are they going to do?
Like, you know, I can't, and the kids are like going, it's really kind of nice.
You know, I don't get these distractions.
And then moving into that, you know, what is it that they're looking at, you know,
It
is the
the next step then is into the the social media which has an algorithm to create anxiety stress and sadness because it continues to reinforce those negative stories that the kids are looped into and You put that out there and go like so for six hours a day The kids don't have access to the doom and and fear
And horrendous stories that are coming in.
And guess what?
The kids are starting to say, like, I actually enjoy being in school now.
Yeah.
Wow.
So, so, yeah, I'm all for that.
And then moving it to what he said, you know, Denmark and even in Australia, you know, the whole idea of social media and saying, like, you know what, we're going to put in place.
a very strict age limit that says you can't even get on to social media until you're 16.
Yikes.
That's not good.
That is horrible.
That's not a good idea.
Not good.
What?
Socialization nowadays is completely different.
So doing something like that is counter to how young people socialize today.
I'm completely against that concept.
Completely.
Well, I support a ban on, you know, 45 to 70 year olds.
Well, that's a self-imposed ban.
I have so many friends that don't bother with computers or cell phones or anything crazy like that.
Yeah.
But think about, I mean, there's actually, I mean, the science on this is real.
And if you talk to people who have, you know, voluntarily taking their selves off of the social media views.
Twitter, Facebook.
There is an elevated bump in their mood of feeling happier.
Yeah,
I believe that.
Well, I can't believe that.
Who can be happy without having a cell phone
or some
kind of media device
hanging on
your head?
You need help.
Talking with Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencil.
So let's back up for a second back to the cell phones in the classroom.
So tell me how this actually works.
Do the kids come in
come to school with their phones and then they put them in a locker or something they don't get until the end of the day or do they have them with them and then when they change classes they get their cell phone you know they they give it to the
teacher at the desk and then they get it back at the end of the classes.
How does it logistically work?
It's like
all of the above
there, Gordy.
Is it?
Yeah, I was going to say.
I mean,
actually how the policy is enforced is different across schools.
Well, you know where I'm going with this.
I'll talk about the elephant in the room.
If there's a shooting or there's some sort of activity going on that everybody needs to know about and everybody needs their phone, then what happens?
Yeah.
Well, I mean I'm just I'm just what about that.
I'm all for this I don't think kids should have cell phones while they're at school or you know While they're but it's a different age.
It's a different age now
because of
the shootings
now We have to take that into consideration.
That's what I'm saying
That's the problem.
I have with doing away with cell phones in schools So
well, I mean, okay, so I'm gonna maybe be a little bit unpopular and go
I don't think that having a cell phone does anything to protect ourselves against a crazed shooter that comes into a school.
It
helps
parents.
It's a false sense of security.
And in one way, we're going to spend time debating that.
And then, of course, then we're not going to talk about the fact that the real issue here is gun control.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
So really,
we're going to get uptight about cell phones and say, well, you know, it's the only thing we can do right now is make sure kids have cell phones.
No.
biggest thing we could do right now is make sure people don't have access to guns because they wake up one morning and decide, you know what, I'm going to take out of school today.
I wonder how I'll do that.
Oh, I'll just call 1-800-GUNS and I'll get going on it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Okay.
I mean,
I get that.
But you know, parents want to know right away, you know, when there's a lockdown, is there
kids safe are they safe they would get a phone call from the kid a text or something like that so
we do have yeah there there are alert systems that all kids in schools and parents should be involved in that and you get that ability to be informed what's happening in your school that doesn't take that away by having a cell phone van um you the parent you know are hooked up to all of those lines that the schools are now able to take advantage of multiple technologies to get you the information
that's happening in, thankfully, even though it's more often happening, but still statistically, a mass school shooting is a rare occurrence, thankfully, even though we're getting to the point where maybe it feels like it's not so rare anymore.
You know, I
just feel like, you know, with all the technology advancing the way it is that it's
Cell phones are an old device at this point.
They're going on, they're moving on to different ways of bringing media into the classroom.
Pretty soon we'll be wearing
Glasses that are specially equipped with internet connections and screens on the
way Tim has his on Yeah, you didn't
you
didn't notice I mean
right
now
while you're while you're out there, you know babble and I'm kind of scrolling At
the
same time on my YouTube channel people
are watching us
right now
right this
radio show
A whole different show going on.
I
have
a
translator that's taking all of our language and putting it into, you know, kind of, you
know.
See, technology is there, you know, taking away cell phones is just like a minor bug at this point.
Now we've got all these other things that we're going to have to deal with, right?
I just, I mean, I'm more and more just seeing the whole connectivity connected to what?
is what we need to be asking that question more and more because, you know, when you say it's needed, then of course, what we do is we bring up some type of doom scenario where you go, oh my God, yeah, the kids need it.
But the reality, another thing that we're not looking at is though, but what is it that they're doing all day long with it when there's not a school shooting or an earthquake?
Doing things they're engaging and the kids will tell you this themselves, you
know,
they're hooked on social media and look social media was never designed With any intentions to elevate the goodness of people.
Yeah, the algorithm rewards pain and suffering and Forces more of that on you.
And
so we know this now
The idea that somebody is saying we should, you know, maybe think hard about whether kids themselves should even have access to these things.
When we even know as adults, it's not good for us.
You know, this is not a, you know, a quote, right.
I guess
in
the sense, you know, this is.
Social media has designed right now doesn't mean that there couldn't be another way to design it but it is designed to provide and give you pain and suffering and the more pain and suffering you see the longer you stay on it and so the business model is absolutely built on.
creating pain and suffering.
Okay, let's create a different model and maybe we have a different talk.
Alright, well, the A.I.M.
watch says we have to take a break here.
You stick around, Tim?
Yeah, we have a few more questions.
Yeah, I'm gonna go into my glasses for a little bit.
Yeah, do them scroll if you can.
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And we've been talking about taking the phones away from kids in schools.
Nice.
Okay.
All
right.
But you know, I'm wearing my watch.
It's got an e-sim in it, the e-sim card in it.
And I could, you know, I could scroll and do anything I want.
Am I a watch there?
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
People are still gonna have access to the internet, okay?
I just want to mention a story that I heard on the way in on WPR.
They were talking about a school system that is bringing in speech therapists because some of the kids have been kind of growing up on
looking at screens from zero to about three years old.
And the idea is that children learn how to speak.
They form words by watching parents lips form words.
And now they have to bring therapists in in order to teach these kids how to form the words and speak.
Because they're on their cell
phones too much and they don't
get that.
That's right.
Yeah, so maybe that's a bad idea to have those kids in that stuff.
I was watching, you know, one year olds, you know, scrolling Twitter.
It's it's insane.
Yeah.
What they're looking at.
It's unbelievable.
You should
just, you know, I mean, well, they, you know, they've got lots of followers and things like that.
You know, okay.
Yeah, I mean so many other you know thought just like they're not watching their parents form words I'm like well have you heard some of the things their parents might not be you know
they're
not learning they're not learning how to say the George Carlin seven dirty words you know they're they're coming to school and
We don't have to yell at them for cursing.
We're bringing in a speech therapist to teach.
You know, we're put we're gonna get somebody to do Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I am sure I can see this, but I it's
too young
really can.
Yeah, I mean, if I I'll admit that I think most of us have seen potentially in
Cracker barrels or restaurants where, you know, the kid is way too young and the parents are like, Jesus, we just want to eat.
Give them the damn phone.
You
know,
um, yeah, I, well, here's the, you know, but it's a parent.
Again, it's a parenting issue.
I mean, I don't know what the solution is to
Um, bad.
parenting, speech therapists being needed to be brought in.
I mean, here's the other thing, maybe we're just denying the fact that speaking is an outdated caveman technology.
We're trying to slow down the process of evolution so that we can just talk to each other by thinking.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, used to be a thing in the the Jetsons, I believe, you know, telepathy.
Hmm.
But I don't know.
I don't know where we're going to go with this.
I mean, I think there's, you know, back to the ban on social media and take, yeah, there's an issue here.
What we're pointing out is, is that, you know, we've created this, this kind of entertainment.
you know attention grabbing series of devices
and
things like that and the consideration was never thought about from the standpoint of saying and and what is the
content?
What are the topics that are going to make sense?
And in fact, how did we decide what content comes across these?
Well, it's, you know, whatever makes money.
And seriously, and
so
when you think about
that, it's
like,
Are we surprised that the content that most of the kids are getting is very more either entertainment or hooking types of devices or slogans and things like that?
think that giving, geez, one year olds, you know, first of all, it's like, really, can you afford to give your iPhone to a slobbering child?
That's true.
That's true.
You know, I mean, hey, maybe there's an opportunity for us to make like toddler cases for iPhones,
you
know, that are slobber poons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a bit, I mean, you know,
We really do.
I mean, again, giving, you know, it's to children.
And you think about saying, you know, what are we, what are we setting them up for?
You know, and maybe, yeah, the device is something that has become this ability, particularly in child, let's just say for all child rearing.
I mean, I see a lot of people looking at and going like,
Seriously from the standpoint of going the stresses of the day I just need a moment and it's very easy to give your you know four or five six year old an iPad that has you know pretty amazingly interactive types of things that require a kid to push and and they get fed a constant reward scenario And you know why is that happening that?
We are so in need of keeping our kids, quote, entertained so that we can get a break.
I mean, you know, those are really big, deep questions that right now my meta glasses are downloading into an AI.
algorithm so
that I
can come up with a solution for next time we're together.
OK, well, those glasses telling you it's time to wrap up too.
My
kids grew up on LeapFrog.
I don't know if you remember those little devices and pads.
LeapFrog.
OK.
All right.
We got to leave it there.
Yes.
Dr. Tim Slecker, thank you for joining us.
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