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one of the season.
Yeah, it's
It is a bad look.
Yeah, you're right.
It's a science theme tonight.
There's a science fair that's going to take place.
Science up on the square.
There'll be some kids with science projects.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And because it's Halloween, or almost Halloween, a lot of people may be dressed in various costumes.
Dom, I know you're going to be dressed as what?
An eggplant?
What is it?
No, a bucky.
I got a onesie, so I just watched it.
I'm surprised you're not wearing it this morning.
I was, I was afraid.
Were you thinking about it?
Yeah, I was thinking about it, but then I wanted to, I have it on the couch right now, ready to go for later on today.
Okay, well, it's good, good to have it out ready to go.
That's good.
Um, yeah.
We had we had a great experience coming back from a comic con.
No, didn't you one year?
We came back and it was Halloween downtown and and this was about maybe four years ago or so and I was a doctor strange and We're all dressed up as Avengers and my son my youngest son very tall six four
and he had on a Spider-Man outfit, which is more like the hoodie that Spider-Man wore before he got the costume.
and the mask and everything.
And he was, he looked so much like Spider-Man.
You know, he's tall, thin, six, four.
He's walking down the street on stage three.
We're all walking down the street like the Avengers.
And people are shouting at him.
Hey, Spider-Man, save us.
You can save us, Spider-Man.
It freaked him out, totally freaked him out.
Especially when the drunk guys downtown started yelling at him.
My Spider-Man, we love you!
You know, all this stuff.
So he is a little gunshot.
We're in the Spider-Man outfit again, which we've been asking him to do.
But yesterday, he went out shopping as he does now because he has a car and he's getting used to driving to a store himself.
So he picked up on the mask, the Guy Fulks mask, from V4Fendetta.
And he has two of those masks because they were two in a package.
And now I get a guy
folks
that.
Yeah Anonymous uses that mask.
Yeah for for a while.
I haven't seen anonymous
Face-wise in a long time Anonymous was out there like maybe five or six years ago Releasing videos and and I think he was during the first Trump administration Put out videos and they do something with the voice and it was scary as hell I mean every once in a while, you know come out and really rail on the administration in that crazy low voice But yeah,
Yeah.
Well, this is just a big event down here all over the place Now if you're going to the no Kings protest, okay, that's a salary just hold off on cashing your checks from
George Soros, you know, you never know.
You never know.
They might be tracking people around.
So if you wait a little while, you can cash a check anonymously someplace and no one will say, oh, gee, you're one of them.
You're, you're an Antifa.
Paid protester.
George
I'm serious about this and I should go off on this for the entire damn morning.
How Trump and the administration is trying to turn protesters into Antifa agents who are hired by George Soros.
Come on, you can't make this stuff up.
Oh my God, please help
It is something out of actually a sock prairie, I believe.
I could be wrong on that, but there is a story about how children like one to two to three years old should be kept away from monitors, screens, phones.
tablets probably.
They shouldn't be playing on them at that age yet.
And it's because children learn how to talk.
They learn how to speak by watching us formulate the words with our mouth.
They watch our mouths.
And it helps them articulate and become good talkers.
So you got to keep them away.
This is what they're finding out.
And a lot of
speech therapists are not being called up in order to help these children out, especially in sock for some reason.
But this is happening.
So I want to talk to Tim about that.
I think
So we got to watch out for that.
I gave my kids tablets immediately as soon as possible.
It was just when tablets were starting to turn out, you know, they started selling them and they were from Japan and they didn't allow
Google Apps on it.
Hmm.
So you had to if there's a PKV or PKG or some some kind of software you add on to the tablet in order for it to break down and add a Google app.
So how old
Yep
He doesn't use the one that comes with the computer.
He has a special one, but it's starting to
have problems, the software, the updates aren't working anymore and it's cutting out, so he doesn't have that and uses his headphones most of the time anyway.
But yeah, they're both up there.
I mean, eating breakfast and these guys are talking about this stuff.
Really?
And how bugs are going after my my youngest son.
They have they have an attack plan of some sort.
I went out to the mailbox.
He has his own mailbox now.
And I got his mail out.
There was this stink bug on it.
Dad does that thing.
I don't know what he does.
OK.
Well, we're just getting started on this.
Thursday morning, it's 19 minutes past the hour.
And when we come back, we'll check the WMDX Samsung watch for the sunrise and sunset times.
I can't wait.
And Tim Slecker in about 15 minutes from Busted Pencils.
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I love that.
Okay.
Sunrise time, sunrise time,
Wow, that's early.
Grab that umbrella before you head outside.
We even said glasses at home if you're leaving tonight.
They don't even need to do anything anymore.
Uh, my first day here, I got here on electricity that I pumped into that car.
Oh yeah.
Overnight with my new home charging station.
Everything work okay?
Yeah, it worked beautifully.
Oh my gosh.
The tentacles that this whole thing has, honest to God, I don't know how they tie all this stuff together.
You know, I'm into technology, but I don't know how they're doing half of this stuff because, uh, uh, you know, I have there, there's an app for my car.
It's called Kia Connect.
Okay, and I don't know if other manufacturers have these things, but you can control your car remotely from inside the house and blah blah blah.
So anyway, I am an MG&E customer and because of that they have a special that you can sign up for if you want to charge your car overnight during the lower
electrical rates.
Oh, okay.
And so I thought, well, that's kind of cool.
And I didn't know about that.
And I found out and I signed up yesterday in order to get in on that program because MG and he uses wind power, by the way.
Or at least they say they do for these particular chargers.
So here, here's the thing.
Then they told me, well, you know what?
So sign in to our site with your Kia Connect app login.
Yeah.
And then we will use that in order to sign you up for our MG&E special charging program.
Okay.
And then do not schedule late night charging on that new charging station you have.
Leave that off because we as MG&E will control your charging times.
Let's take over.
Okay.
Isn't that wild?
Yeah.
And then they log in to my Kia Connect.
in order to, I don't know what, turn me into the government someday.
I have no idea why there's this connection at all, but anyway, they charged overnight.
Yeah, and it's just
inside that
Cool.
Except for Tesla, they have a different version.
And I don't know if they're all high charging or not, but these are level two chargers for your home.
There's a level three, which is a fast charger.
Level one is just like a plug, the plug into the wall.
You can take it on vacation and at least have something where if there are no chargers any place, you at least have this one.
You can plug into a wall or, you know, but yours is the step up from that.
Oh yeah.
It's a level two.
And, uh, and, but I have a 100 amp system in my home
Yeah, that's why we're not a free country anymore John and Gordy in the morning that we have Dom at the controls and our special guest this morning, of course is Dr. Tim Slecker from busted pencils and we talk about education from an educator and I you know, I don't know how to say how you guys say that stuff What's your big slow?
Educated educators talking education.
There you go.
And that's
Yeah, I I mean the whole part of that I mean Denmark really is going to the point of you know, it's a full social media age restriction ban, but you know kind of bringing it back to cell phones in school and
People were like, ah, you know, what are the kids gonna do if they need to contact home?
I I don't know before cell phones.
What did we do?
We actually didn't contact home and we're probably better off because of it and My mom couldn't annoy me during the day when I went to school
um you know where some kids now are going like geez mom stop sending me text messages all day long um you know and so
come across people are i i've had some people go like you're a you're for the cell phone band and i'm like yeah why i really am because i think about um what's
not happening because of the cell phone usage in schools and It really is an isolating toll and anybody who has particularly, you know the smartphones knows exactly what I'm talking about the ability to lose yourself in the screen is something that's real and now you imagine
the school setting with you know 25 to 30 others and then during breaks you know with the whole school and the fact that every kid is kind of buried in that isolating screen when the reason one of the biggest reasons we're grouping kids in big groups like this is to give them the socialization opportunities of being in a school building if not
go to a cyber charter school, I guess, right?
Or something like that.
But when you're in there and so just from that point alone.
I say, yeah, you don't need a cell phone while you're in school.
You need to be present with your friends, with the bullies, with the people you're bullying, with the teachers, with the, you know, the whole experience.
So put that out there.
And then the other part of it is, is to say,
what's happening during the day when you're sitting in class and you've got your computer open and you're checking Facebook and you've got your cell phone dinging with these things.
You know, you can't pay attention.
It's a distraction.
But what I like about this is that the uproar and the reaction by the kids and where this is happening and going,
Oh, man, we really like it.
kids are actually on board with this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Gordy, yeah, you're listening and looking.
It's just like, you know, it's all, you know, all
parents go, oh my God, what are they going to do?
Like, you know, I can't, and the kids are like going, it's really kind of nice.
You know, I don't get these distractions.
And then moving into that, you know, what is it that they're looking at, you know,
It
is the
the next step then is into the the social media which has an algorithm to create anxiety stress and sadness because it continues to reinforce those negative stories that the kids are looped into and You put that out there and go like so for six hours a day The kids don't have access to the doom and and fear
And horrendous stories that are coming in.
And guess what?
The kids are starting to say, like, I actually enjoy being in school now.
So, so, yeah, I'm all for that.
And then moving it to what he said, you know, Denmark and even in Australia, you know, the whole idea of social media and saying, like, you know what, we're going to put in place.
a very strict age limit that says you can't even get on to social media until you're 16.
Yikes.
Completely.
Well, I support a ban on, you know, 45 to 70 year olds.
Yeah.
But think about, I mean, there's actually, I mean, the science on this is real.
And if you talk to people who have, you know, voluntarily taking their selves off of the social media views.
Twitter, Facebook.
There is an elevated bump in their mood of feeling happier.
Yeah,
Talking with Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencil.
So let's back up for a second back to the cell phones in the classroom.
So tell me how this actually works.
Do the kids come in
come to school with their phones and then they put them in a locker or something they don't get until the end of the day or do they have them with them and then when they change classes they get their cell phone you know they they give it to the
teacher at the desk and then they get it back at the end of the classes.
How does it logistically work?
It's like
all of the above
Yeah, I was going to say.
actually how the policy is enforced is different across schools.
I'll talk about the elephant in the room.
If there's a shooting or there's some sort of activity going on that everybody needs to know about and everybody needs their phone, then what happens?
Yeah.
Well, I mean I'm just I'm just what about that.
I'm all for this I don't think kids should have cell phones while they're at school or you know While they're but it's a different age.
It's a different age now
well, I mean, okay, so I'm gonna maybe be a little bit unpopular and go
I don't think that having a cell phone does anything to protect ourselves against a crazed shooter that comes into a school.
It
parents.
It's a false sense of security.
And in one way, we're going to spend time debating that.
And then, of course, then we're not going to talk about the fact that the real issue here is gun control.
we're going to get uptight about cell phones and say, well, you know, it's the only thing we can do right now is make sure kids have cell phones.
No.
biggest thing we could do right now is make sure people don't have access to guns because they wake up one morning and decide, you know what, I'm going to take out of school today.
I wonder how I'll do that.
Oh, I'll just call 1-800-GUNS and I'll get going on it.
Okay.
I mean,
we do have yeah there there are alert systems that all kids in schools and parents should be involved in that and you get that ability to be informed what's happening in your school that doesn't take that away by having a cell phone van um you the parent you know are hooked up to all of those lines that the schools are now able to take advantage of multiple technologies to get you the information
that's happening in, thankfully, even though it's more often happening, but still statistically, a mass school shooting is a rare occurrence, thankfully, even though we're getting to the point where maybe it feels like it's not so rare anymore.
You know, I
Cell phones are an old device at this point.
They're going on, they're moving on to different ways of bringing media into the classroom.
Pretty soon we'll be wearing
Glasses that are specially equipped with internet connections and screens on the
you
didn't notice I mean
while you're while you're out there, you know babble and I'm kind of scrolling At
same time on my YouTube channel people
right now
radio show
have
translator that's taking all of our language and putting it into, you know, kind of, you
I just, I mean, I'm more and more just seeing the whole connectivity connected to what?
is what we need to be asking that question more and more because, you know, when you say it's needed, then of course, what we do is we bring up some type of doom scenario where you go, oh my God, yeah, the kids need it.
But the reality, another thing that we're not looking at is though, but what is it that they're doing all day long with it when there's not a school shooting or an earthquake?
Doing things they're engaging and the kids will tell you this themselves, you
know,
they're hooked on social media and look social media was never designed With any intentions to elevate the goodness of people.
Yeah, the algorithm rewards pain and suffering and Forces more of that on you.
so we know this now
The idea that somebody is saying we should, you know, maybe think hard about whether kids themselves should even have access to these things.
When we even know as adults, it's not good for us.
You know, this is not a, you know, a quote, right.
I guess
in
the sense, you know, this is.
Social media has designed right now doesn't mean that there couldn't be another way to design it but it is designed to provide and give you pain and suffering and the more pain and suffering you see the longer you stay on it and so the business model is absolutely built on.
creating pain and suffering.
Okay, let's create a different model and maybe we have a different talk.
Yeah, I'm gonna go into my glasses for a little bit.
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Okay.
All
But you know, I'm wearing my watch.
It's got an e-sim in it, the e-sim card in it.
And I could, you know, I could scroll and do anything I want.
Am I a watch there?
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
People are still gonna have access to the internet, okay?
I just want to mention a story that I heard on the way in on WPR.
They were talking about a school system that is bringing in speech therapists because some of the kids have been kind of growing up on
looking at screens from zero to about three years old.
And the idea is that children learn how to speak.
They form words by watching parents lips form words.
And now they have to bring therapists in in order to teach these kids how to form the words and speak.
Because they're on their cell
I was watching, you know, one year olds, you know, scrolling Twitter.
It's it's insane.
just, you know, I mean, well, they, you know, they've got lots of followers and things like that.
You know, okay.
Yeah, I mean so many other you know thought just like they're not watching their parents form words I'm like well have you heard some of the things their parents might not be you know
not learning they're not learning how to say the George Carlin seven dirty words you know they're they're coming to school and
We don't have to yell at them for cursing.
We're bringing in a speech therapist to teach.
You know, we're put we're gonna get somebody to do Joe.
Yeah.
Okay.
I am sure I can see this, but I it's
really can.
Yeah, I mean, if I I'll admit that I think most of us have seen potentially in
Cracker barrels or restaurants where, you know, the kid is way too young and the parents are like, Jesus, we just want to eat.
Give them the damn phone.
um, yeah, I, well, here's the, you know, but it's a parent.
Again, it's a parenting issue.
I mean, I don't know what the solution is to
Um, bad.
parenting, speech therapists being needed to be brought in.
I mean, here's the other thing, maybe we're just denying the fact that speaking is an outdated caveman technology.
We're trying to slow down the process of evolution so that we can just talk to each other by thinking.
That's right.
I mean, I think there's, you know, back to the ban on social media and take, yeah, there's an issue here.
What we're pointing out is, is that, you know, we've created this, this kind of entertainment.
you know attention grabbing series of devices
and
things like that and the consideration was never thought about from the standpoint of saying and and what is the
content?
What are the topics that are going to make sense?
And in fact, how did we decide what content comes across these?
Well, it's, you know, whatever makes money.
And seriously, and
so
when you think about
that, it's
like,
Are we surprised that the content that most of the kids are getting is very more either entertainment or hooking types of devices or slogans and things like that?
think that giving, geez, one year olds, you know, first of all, it's like, really, can you afford to give your iPhone to a slobbering child?
You know, I mean, hey, maybe there's an opportunity for us to make like toddler cases for iPhones,
know, that are slobber poons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a bit, I mean, you know,
We really do.
I mean, again, giving, you know, it's to children.
And you think about saying, you know, what are we, what are we setting them up for?
You know, and maybe, yeah, the device is something that has become this ability, particularly in child, let's just say for all child rearing.
I mean, I see a lot of people looking at and going like,
Seriously from the standpoint of going the stresses of the day I just need a moment and it's very easy to give your you know four or five six year old an iPad that has you know pretty amazingly interactive types of things that require a kid to push and and they get fed a constant reward scenario And you know why is that happening that?
We are so in need of keeping our kids, quote, entertained so that we can get a break.
I mean, you know, those are really big, deep questions that right now my meta glasses are downloading into an AI.
algorithm so
can come up with a solution for next time we're together.
OK.
All right.
We got to leave it there.
Yes.
Dr. Tim Slecker, thank you for joining us.
You can listen to Busted Pencils on civicmedia.us slash shows slash busted pencils.
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They're a great podcast.
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