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It
It does really seem stupid.
But the thing they don't get is that Democrats are doing this in order to restore the tax credits for the Affordable Care Act so our premiums don't go up skyrocket.
Each and every month.
and actually bring it down the economy because that'll take a lot of money out of the economy right into the insurance company.
So anyway, Senator John Kennedy, who's killing that name, he was wrong about the ACA subsidies and I just, I couldn't believe this.
He would love to steer the conversation away from the subsidies and just do it do something else Calling the ACAA failure that hurts people is just an amazing thing.
Let's listen to this.
Okay, the other thing is being lost in all this Tim
the democrats say it's about health care and about extending the old obama care it's that we also need to have a conversation
obama care itself
subsidies are no subsidies
damn thing's broken
and we were told that if we passed obama care health insurance would be cheaper
and more accessible.
It is.
And it's been neither.
We
were told it would make
our lives better.
It's made our lives worse.
whether you subsidize the thing or not, it's got to be fixed.
And that's what's being lost in the debate.
On top of that, we knew that there were some small problems in the ACA, which I can't even think of at this point.
They're just small, but they need to be adjusted.
When you pass any kind of bill, you'll find out whether there are some flaws in it, some things you need to take out or add.
The Republicans refuse to do anything with the Affordable Care Act.
They will not update it, they will not change some of the flaws, they will not do anything about it.
So to sit there and complain about the ACA is outrageous first.
And then of course, you know, it has made it cheaper because we do get the tax credits.
And it's made it easier for people to get health care.
and it does include those people with pre-existing conditions.
That's the whole point of this thing.
And he's just making this stuff up, and he doesn't want to talk about the tax credits again.
The Republicans knew that they needed the votes of the Democrats, and they refused to go along with that.
And now they're still not gonna, they're never gonna negotiate this thing, by the way.
And by the way, the insurance companies also went in before, as that big bad bill was being talked about and written,
They went in there and said, you can't do it.
You can't get rid of these credits because we are going to dump out of the Affordable Care Act.
We're not going to offer it in these states if you do this or the premiums are going to go skyrocketing if you do this.
And they did it anyway.
There are all these different elements that they just completely ignored to get their way.
They do not listen.
They don't care about anybody in this country.
And again, if there is a way that we could have a referendum.
a nationwide referendum and just take their health care away in Congress.
Take it away until they give us universal health care.
That's what I'm pushing.
That's what I want.
And if I can't get that, at least, Democrats, I know you're working on the ACA tax credits, but whatever you do, start talking about universal health care.
God, what do we have to do?
What do we have to do?
What are you waiting for?
What?
Come on.
you know,
Okay.
The Heritage Foundation, which published Project 2025 and its spin-off, The Oversight Project, issued a call for the FBI to designate, get this, this is the term, transgender ideology-inspired violent extremism, or TAIVE.
as a domestic terrorism threat category so they want to make transgender ideology inspired violent extremism a terrorist threat category which by the way they can't do in this country we can't designate terrorist organizations in this country like neo-nazis or anybody else or even antifa you can't do it it's it you just can't
But anyway, that's the story.
They're working on it, and that's why they are being so aggressively targeting transgender individuals.
Just to let you
to
Okay, now, the word is, Gordy, the word is that Antifa, the network, still has not been found.
They're still looking for the Antifa network.
There aren't any burning cities, no violent protests, ice-getting docks, none of that.
The neo-Nazis and proud boy organizations are not also categorized as terrorist groups, only just Antifa, the network Antifa.
This is all through the looking guy stuff.
Now I found this, somebody put all these cuts together of people saying there's no Antifa.
Okay, so let's listen to cut 115, this is cut 115, no Antifa.
There's no Antifa.
This is
It's not even like far-right groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers compared to right-wing extremists.
Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited.
It isn't an organization.
It is a...
in many ways mythology.
It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers, you know, sort of defined terrorist organizations with leadership that leads violence.
It's not a highly organized movement.
It's a moniker.
It's not a unified group like the Proud Boys are.
Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.
It's all in the skies of going after Antifa, which is nothing.
There's no organization called the Antifa.
Nobody's a
media, but it really has is non-existent.
They exist on the internet in chat rooms
and in
4chan and Discord in places like that where they run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like that, but none of them are called Antifa.
In fact, I looked at a lot.
that stuff.
MAGA found the proof in photo interpretations and manipulations, random videos, and get this, even a crowd in a Simpsons episode where they pointed out who the Antifa members were at Duff's bar.
Really?
Yeah.
In the Simpsons?
Yes.
Yes.
Cartoons.
They actually pointed out which ones were Antifa members.
And of course, you know, only Antifa wears black.
So photos of January 6th, MAGA.
in black are now Antifa although I thought they were in disguise dressed as Megas.
Anyway Cal from Truth Justice USA posted speaking about January 6th the fact that Trump deployed the National Guard to states over the wishes of their governors yet he didn't deploy them on January 6th over the supposed objections of Pelosi when you know he
Wasn't in control proves that he was lying about the deployment of the National Guard Okay, and this is very interesting by the way if you want to follow somebody this is Del Cameron He's a journalist for wired magazine.
You got it.
This guy really he's updated on this really well
He has covered topics related to Antifa, notably debunked misinformation about the movement during the 2020 wildfires.
His reporting has detailed how Trump's Department of Homeland Security attempted to create a narrative of an Antifa terrorist network in the summer of 2020.
I
didn't
Cameron highlighted how the DHS used a catchall term, violent Antifa anarchists inspired.
VAAI, it made an acronym out of it to conflate different left-wing categories and justify intelligence analysis against protesters.
So if you've got to follow anybody, Del Cameron at Wired, check him out.
He's been doing this for a long, long time.
He deals with data stuff as well.
So check it out.
Okay, let's go to the phone lines.
We've got a lot of calls here.
Let's go to Rick.
What do you got for us, Rick?
Good morning, Rick.
Go ahead.
I was
calling in, the trouble is with your narrative about the shutdown.
Government shutdown is exactly what they want.
It fits the modern Republican Party's narrative that government doesn't work.
We need to destroy it, tear it down, and implant a monarchy, a unitary executive.
to run everything.
the same thing with the ACA.
They don't want to negotiate with the ACA because two thirds of it, the vast majority of the refurbish is stuff that the Republican Party insisted needed to be in
now.
Yep.
So that's, they, they want it broken.
They want to tear it down.
And they want it.
Yeah.
I agree with you on that.
Absolutely.
And that's why I don't believe that they have any intention whatsoever to negotiate this particular point.
In fact, the thing that bothers me about this is that they're now tearing apart other departments now to go and reduce the size of government.
And it's even getting worse and worse now.
So this is not a great situation to be in.
And I think that they really do love the, the fact that they're making people suffer, firing them when they could be on deferral
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We have some rain showers working their way across Madison right now some wet streets out there looking out our state street window here it's damp and people are carrying their umbrellas so not a bad idea to grab that on the way out the door and
Temperatures today pretty mild high around 69 scattered showers this morning then just kind of cloudy.
Didn't the Beatles want to have a song rain?
Yes, they did.
It was a great song.
All right
CJ.
Wow guys.
You finally got to the world news.
Oh, we
earlier.
know, I guess I shouldn't be surprised you get your news from this
No,
I guess listening for your party for two and a half years that the border was secure.
You know, we'll find out the truth in the long run.
Well, you forget
came up.
They're going to follow the money.
That's what it's going to lead to.
up with an actual bill.
Yeah,
so much news that I like to backtrack a little bit if I may
talked about the ASA the of court of Affordable Care Act, which it isn't You know,
of it.
I think
it the one caller.
Yeah said that you know the Republicans got all kinds of amendments in there They didn't get one amendment the one they wanted
was to allow companies to sell across state lines.
And the Democrats fought that.
That would have given competition.
Competition means lower prices.
Can I
that?
Sure.
for them so they didn't know no insurance companies did
not want to go across state lines most of them all right now you have the big ones humana and health care organizations but most of them did not want to cross state lines all right you know just to let you know what happened way back when okay all right keep going
Oh, we got it.
All right.
We have Charles on the line.
Charles on the line.
Let's go to Charles and Milwaukee.
Good morning, Charles.
Hey, good morning, guys.
You know, this guy, I never heard not one Democratic politician say the border was secure.
Not one.
No.
Now, if he can give me the name of one, and I'll research it, but I've never.
I don't know where he comes up with this stuff at.
It's like he just picks it out of the air.
I never heard one Democratic politician say the border was secure.
second question is, I wonder what does Mr. Stone have to say about Qatar, building the Trump-led Qatar, build an army base for training on United States soil.
and he's got the nerve to say follow the money you're right follow follow the money because trump and his family has made a whole lot of money and what i think it's only been like maybe seven or eight months since he's been back in office
right well you know the thing here is and i did look at a post from a mega and he was actually pretty right on about that
Army base what what's happening is we sell all of these products to all these different countries and those products have to be you know
their arms, of course, they have to be trained in order to use those.
And what they do is they set up training grounds here in the United States at these army bases.
And that's why they have done what they've done.
I mean, there's a German army base in Texas that they're also helping with.
So there are other two other countries in this country.
And there's actually one other one at the same base that Cutter is going to.
So they train them how to use this weaponry, and that's why we're doing this and helping them out.
Charles, make sense to me,
Okay.
So if you're out there this morning and the rain going down that one lane going each direction, well, they got one lane in one direction, but yeah.
It's only day one of a, what, two-year, three-year project?
Something like that.
And you thought you woke up from a nightmare.
Yeah,
WMDX 92.7,
Yeah, I know.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
And honestly, LA's had enough.
That's what I'm thinking.
Let's do it for you.
Let's do it for you.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bob Uker.
You know, um, you guys are talking about, you know, the risk and danger and things before we came on and I did something stupid this weekend.
I, uh, I was hitchhiking.
Not a great idea with my sucks sign.
Yeah.
Pulling
Oh, sure.
And he had a pirate radio thing that he was doing for a while.
And I think he actually thought he was a pirate.
You know, had that voice and the whole thing.
Yeah, like, if you don't protect what's in the bill of rights, you got nothing.
You've got to stand up and scream and you got a shot about it.
As you know, the war in Chicago.
Oh, good God, the
Give us the latest just completely unsafe.
You can't go to Walgreens without trying to find a parking space and Not knowing if you're gonna get one and how about Portland?
Oh, you talk about trouble in Portland, you know Portland is the Portland is the city of roses and It's just slightly more violent than Iowa
Um, so I
I think it's trumped up just a bit, just a wee bit, don't you?
Yeah, and good for them.
The amazing thing is that
Um, you know, it's all hypocrisy out of Washington to begin with.
The, the idea that you want to have your bread delivered to your table and your plates bust, but the hardest working people in the restaurant.
Oh, and you also want them arrested.
And then you can't understand why you
Yeah.
time.
Well, Grandpa gets crazy.
yeah.
Yeah.
Give him some more butterscotch candies because he's all wound up.
I mean, you know, this is like this is ground zero, truly, besides Portland.
I mean, this is the place.
And now a judge has said, you know, for two weeks now, they can't send ice agents in or a or national guard from Texas into the state.
So how's the situation playing out over there?
I know I have a cut from JB, by the way.
Okay, let's, let's listen to this cut one 16.
This is JB.
Here we go.
They're going
to thing that's happened and very few people paying attention.
You probably are, uh, which is they, they asked for, they demanded the DOJ did our voter data, not just ours in Illinois, every state's voter data.
Why?
They won't tell us why.
And actually what they seem to be looking for,
remember back to the 2020 elections, is they want to be able to find voter fraud, which lots of organizations have been looking for voter fraud, as you know, for a long time.
There's very little voter fraud going on, very little.
They're calling for all these databases so that they can look through them, and yet they won't tell you when they're going to come up with any conclusion about whatever it is they're looking for.
Next year, when we have a November election, I think you're going to see two things that occur.
One, you won't have had any results from this mass collection of data, of voter data.
And then the second is you're going to have soldiers or people dressed as soldiers at polling places saying we're protecting your voting rights.
You know, this is about voter integrity.
And then...
the possibility that they'll be doing what Michael Flynn urged the president to do back in 2020, which is seize the ballot boxes at the polling places so that we can have the military do a fair count.
Now, if you put all the things together that are happening right now, that doesn't wouldn't surprise me at all.
Think about how hard they fought on this issue of whether the election had been stolen.
in 2020, right?
The January 6th riot being an example of that, but lots of other things.
And then all of those people at January 6th, you know, being pardoned, all of that, put all those together and ask yourself, do you think what I just said is completely ridiculous?
Do you think what I just said is something that's really possible with Trump as president and Stephen Miller in the White House and, you know, and all the same people kind of advising the president that are at the, you know, at the edges of the law?
He has been amazing, and to also be funny in the process as well.
I hope people saw the video of him from Ground Zero with his black jacket on.
But what he describes is exactly right.
And the frustrating thing for me, and I know you guys feel the same way, is through the last few years, the lack of an extension of common sense.
You cannot fix an election in this country.
You cannot fix a national election.
There's Democrats and Republicans involved.
And there's too many people involved.
It would be the greatest conspiracy ever.
People can't keep a secret for five minutes about their neighbor without jumping on social media.
And you think you can fix an election?
It's an insane premise.
And the biggest criminal right now in all of it is the attorney general.
She should have been arrested.
and thrown in jail right now.
She's an absolute shill for Trump.
Unbelievable.
And the backstop we have, the only backstop we have are the courts.
And if the Supreme Court doesn't actually do their job, look, I don't know where we go.
Yeah, Debbie Brockman she I worked with her briefly don't know her well at all But you know nice lady, you know speaking up.
I don't know if she yelled out the window good Lord in America You can yell out a window.
Oh, we got to shut that down But this notion that this older lady was a threat and she's viciously thrown to the ground as her pants pulled off practically Who are you kidding?
Yeah, yeah, nobody backs it listen.
I backed the police
I back law enforcement.
They have an unbelievably difficult job.
This is law enforcement.
This is thugs.
their
All right, that's the thing you don't understand, right?
To what end?
You think this is going to stay this way?
Provided we all survive through the other election that the governor was talking about, how do you think this is going to turn around?
Of course it is.
And then what happens?
And you have to count on the Democrats being the ones to be the grown-ups to do the right thing and not act the way this has gone on.
But the fact is they've set up levers and systems and things that you can't unravel.
And you can unravel quickly and there's going to be payback even if it's unintentional payback against Republicans who beat move a leaf in this nonsense
Yeah, what what do you have stand-up?
Where are you gonna be November 17?
I'm sorry November 50 I'm gonna be at the Copley theater in Aurora two days before I get my other knee replaced I Had a right knee replaced when we get a left knee replacement because the right knee
is three or four years old.
The left knee is 64 years old.
So the right knee wants to run.
The left knee wants to sit.
I just spent a whole day spinning.
And so we're getting the left knee done.
And yeah.
And but two days before doing standup comedy, it's all like Cochran show dot com.
Thanks for the plug, boys.
Yeah, sure.
Well, maybe we could plug John and Gordy's.
Antifa After School chapter that we're trying to get in all the public schools now that Turning Point USA is trying to get into the all the K through 12s.
We're thinking of Antifa After School and we're hoping that maybe we'll be accepted at a few here in Wisconsin, right?
Yeah, we're working on it.
We're gonna workshop a little bit more.
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Good morning real quick to that mutual admiration society meeting That speech to the canessa where they're blowing smoke up each other's behind The only thing I did hear from Trump I watched very little of it is he said I hate war and proof of it is paraphrasing them I've ended eight words in eight months Well, how come you can't end the war on the American people?
right?
quickly.
Yeah.
To the sports over the weekend.
I got a suggestion for Wisconsin football.
Enter the team in the transfer portal and move to division two.
The Badgers.
He loves young kids.
Oh, does he love them?
He hugs them.
He just cherishes them.
Because, you know, they have very young minds.
What are you talking about?
Easy to brainwash.
No surprise, of course, because, you know, he is the president of Young America's Foundation, which is a college organization.
Yes.
Well, he just loves the idea of Christian nationalist turning point USA getting into those K through 12 schools.
He does.
This is Walker on X. This is what he posted.
They should absolutely be able to have a chapter.
We will fight for students to have Turning Point USA or any other conservative group at their schools.
Any other conservative group?
How about all any other groups like John and Gordy Zantifa after school?
I think
that could work.
It
but
I don't know why you know he's a dumbass you know I don't I don't know why we entertain that guy you know it's just not very smart.
I'm laying out there.
I tell the truth here on the program all the time.
Speak your onions.
Yeah sure challenge me on that.
Somebody go ahead call me tell me.
What smart thing did he do?
I'm thinking about it.
I know you're deep in thought now.
You know the thing here is what happened just a few moments ago.
Katherine walked into the studio and all the air just sucked out of the roof.
She's just
on.
It's
Monday.
And we get five minutes left, and I look at five
at some happiness.
Like, what are the first words out of your mouth as I walk in?
Let's talk about Scott Walker.
With five minutes left, what do you think Joe is going to be able to avoid slitting her wrists now?
I
for Trump.
OK.
One day, the history of the time we're living through is going to be written.
And when it is,
I'm not sure it's those in this administration who are even going to come off the worst.
Now, don't get me wrong, they're going to come off terribly.
But history is also going to remember the cowards who definitely knew better, but still let things happen, whether it was for money, convenience or just comfort.
And I know this is something of a tough sell, and it can be a bit of anathema to risk averse business leaders.
But I will say this, if we've learned nothing else from this administration's second term so far, and I don't think we have,
is that giving the bully your lunch money doesn't make him go away.
It just makes him come back hungrier each time.
They are never going to stop.
They've literally said that openly.
After Kimmel's suspension, Trump posted, that leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers on fake news NBC.
Their ratings are also horrible.
Do it, NBC.
And Kara's hinted that the view might be next.
The f***ing view.
Look, at some point,
You're going to have to draw a line.
So I'd argue, why not draw it right here?
And when they come to you with stupid, ridiculous demands, picking fights that you know you could win in court, instead of rolling over, why not stand up and use four keywords they don't tend to teach you in business school.
Not, okay, you're the boss.
Not whatever you say goes.
But instead, the only phrase that can genuinely make a weak bully go away, and that is, fuck you, make me.
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