ACA Drama (Hour 2)

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ACA Drama (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Mon Oct 13, 2025

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Good morning,

Madison.

Wow.

It feels so much better now.

Despite the rain, right?

Yeah.

And idiocracy stories

that brought everybody down

to

that.

Despite the fact that this is day one of construction on John Nolan Drive.

Down

to

one lane in each direction.

Good morning.

How you

doing

out there?

Really, the end result will be just fantastic.

80 years from now and when the fun is restored after Trump leaves office.

Yeah, it's not gonna work out.

I just have a bad feeling about this Okay, all right

All right, let's get to

a few stories here.

OK, because these are the big stories.

Oh, coming up in a half hour, by the way,

John,

don't want to forget Steve Cochran from

Chicago.

Yes, Chicago Radio Personality.

I know what's going on in

Chicago.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So much happening there with ice in town.

So we'll get the latest from Steve coming up.

All right.

You know, we've been waiting for the Republicans to come back from vacation in order to negotiate a deal.

They know.

they need the votes of Democrats in order to

continue the government funding.

Some reason they didn't think they needed to negotiate with the Democrats at

all

and just expected them to vote with them.

I don't know.

Does that seem stupid?

It

does.

It does really seem stupid.

But the thing they don't get is that Democrats are doing this in order to restore the tax credits for the Affordable Care Act so our premiums don't go up skyrocket.

Each and every month.

and actually bring it down the economy because that'll take a lot of money out of the economy right into the insurance company.

So anyway, Senator John Kennedy, who's killing that name, he was wrong about the ACA subsidies and I just, I couldn't believe this.

He would love to steer the conversation away from the subsidies and just do it do something else Calling the ACAA failure that hurts people is just an amazing thing.

Let's listen to this.

Okay, the other thing is being lost in all this Tim

the democrats say it's about health care and about extending the old obama care it's that we also need to have a conversation

what's that about

obama care itself

oh really

subsidies are no subsidies

the

damn thing's broken

yeah

and we were told that if we passed obama care health insurance would be cheaper

and more accessible.

It is.

And it's been neither.

We

were told it would make

our lives better.

It's made our lives worse.

It has.

So

whether you subsidize the thing or not, it's got to be fixed.

And that's what's being lost in the debate.

Here's the thing about fixing the ACA.

Yeah.

Republicans tried to kill the ACA so many times, they can't even count how many times that was.

50 or 60

times.

On top of that, we knew that there were some small problems in the ACA, which I can't even think of at this point.

They're just small, but they need to be adjusted.

When you pass any kind of bill, you'll find out whether there are some flaws in it, some things you need to take out or add.

The Republicans refuse to do anything with the Affordable Care Act.

They will not update it, they will not change some of the flaws, they will not do anything about it.

So to sit there and complain about the ACA is outrageous first.

And then of course, you know, it has made it cheaper because we do get the tax credits.

And it's made it easier for people to get health care.

and it does include those people with pre-existing conditions.

That's the whole point of this thing.

And he's just making this stuff up, and he doesn't want to talk about the tax credits again.

The Republicans knew that they needed the votes of the Democrats, and they refused to go along with that.

And now they're still not gonna, they're never gonna negotiate this thing, by the way.

And by the way, the insurance companies also went in before, as that big bad bill was being talked about and written,

They went in there and said, you can't do it.

You can't get rid of these credits because we are going to dump out of the Affordable Care Act.

We're not going to offer it in these states if you do this or the premiums are going to go skyrocketing if you do this.

And they did it anyway.

There are all these different elements that they just completely ignored to get their way.

They do not listen.

They don't care about anybody in this country.

And again, if there is a way that we could have a referendum.

a nationwide referendum and just take their health care away in Congress.

Take it away until they give us universal health care.

That's what I'm pushing.

That's what I want.

And if I can't get that, at least, Democrats, I know you're working on the ACA tax credits, but whatever you do, start talking about universal health care.

God, what do we have to do?

What do we have to do?

What are you waiting for?

What?

Come on.

God.

You know who's with you on this is Marjorie Taylor Green.

Yes, I know.

I mean, you know, the world's

changing when she jumps

on board.

Well, we went out for a beer the other night.

Yeah, you

talk her into it.

Wow.

Good

for you.

She's aggressive.

All right, here, let's move on to project.

Well,

you know,

Project 2025 has come and gone, and we're realizing every element of Project 2025.

But get this, Heritage Foundation has a new story that they're working on, and it is something that you'll be amazed with.

Right?

Okay.

In the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, the Republican policy apparatus went into immediate work.

The Heritage Foundation, which published Project 2025 and its spin-off, The Oversight Project, issued a call for the FBI to designate, get this, this is the term, transgender ideology-inspired violent extremism, or TAIVE.

as a domestic terrorism threat category so they want to make transgender ideology inspired violent extremism a terrorist threat category which by the way they can't do in this country we can't designate terrorist organizations in this country like neo-nazis or anybody else or even antifa you can't do it it's it you just can't

But anyway, that's the story.

They're working on it, and that's why they are being so aggressively targeting transgender individuals.

Just to let you

know.

Just

to

keep you updated on that.

Okay, now, the word is, Gordy, the word is that Antifa, the network, still has not been found.

They're still looking for the Antifa network.

There aren't any burning cities, no violent protests, ice-getting docks, none of that.

The neo-Nazis and proud boy organizations are not also categorized as terrorist groups, only just Antifa, the network Antifa.

This is all through the looking guy stuff.

Now I found this, somebody put all these cuts together of people saying there's no Antifa.

Okay, so let's listen to cut 115, this is cut 115, no Antifa.

There's no Antifa.

This is

an entirely imaginary organization.

There is not an Antifa.

Like, I don't even know what Antifa is.

There is no group.

It's not even like far-right groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers compared to right-wing extremists.

Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited.

It isn't an organization.

It is a...

in many ways mythology.

It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers, you know, sort of defined terrorist organizations with leadership that leads violence.

It's not a highly organized movement.

It's a moniker.

It's not a unified group like the Proud Boys are.

Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.

It's all in the skies of going after Antifa, which is nothing.

There's no organization called the Antifa.

Nobody's a

member of Antifa.

because it doesn't exist.

They are just.

declaring into

existence something that doesn't exist.

There is no Antifa organization, so maybe that's good for social

media, but it really has is non-existent.

They exist on the internet in chat rooms

and in

4chan and Discord in places like that where they run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like that, but none of them are called Antifa.

No.

In fact, I looked at a lot.

that stuff.

MAGA found the proof in photo interpretations and manipulations, random videos, and get this, even a crowd in a Simpsons episode where they pointed out who the Antifa members were at Duff's bar.

Really?

Yeah.

In the Simpsons?

Yes.

Yes.

Cartoons.

They actually pointed out which ones were Antifa members.

And of course, you know, only Antifa wears black.

So photos of January 6th, MAGA.

in black are now Antifa although I thought they were in disguise dressed as Megas.

Anyway Cal from Truth Justice USA posted speaking about January 6th the fact that Trump deployed the National Guard to states over the wishes of their governors yet he didn't deploy them on January 6th over the supposed objections of Pelosi when you know he

Wasn't in control proves that he was lying about the deployment of the National Guard Okay, and this is very interesting by the way if you want to follow somebody this is Del Cameron He's a journalist for wired magazine.

You got it.

This guy really he's updated on this really well

He has covered topics related to Antifa, notably debunked misinformation about the movement during the 2020 wildfires.

His reporting has detailed how Trump's Department of Homeland Security attempted to create a narrative of an Antifa terrorist network in the summer of 2020.

I

didn't

know that.

Cameron highlighted how the DHS used a catchall term, violent Antifa anarchists inspired.

VAAI, it made an acronym out of it to conflate different left-wing categories and justify intelligence analysis against protesters.

So if you've got to follow anybody, Del Cameron at Wired, check him out.

He's been doing this for a long, long time.

He deals with data stuff as well.

So check it out.

Okay, let's go to the phone lines.

We've got a lot of calls here.

Let's go to Rick.

What do you got for us, Rick?

Good morning, Rick.

Go ahead.

I was

calling in, the trouble is with your narrative about the shutdown.

Government shutdown is exactly what they want.

It fits the modern Republican Party's narrative that government doesn't work.

We need to destroy it, tear it down, and implant a monarchy, a unitary executive.

to run everything.

Right.

And it's

the same thing with the ACA.

They don't want to negotiate with the ACA because two thirds of it, the vast majority of the refurbish is stuff that the Republican Party insisted needed to be in

now.

Yep.

So that's, they, they want it broken.

They want to tear it down.

I agree, Rick.

And they want it.

Yeah.

I agree with you on that.

Absolutely.

And that's why I don't believe that they have any intention whatsoever to negotiate this particular point.

In fact, the thing that bothers me about this is that they're now tearing apart other departments now to go and reduce the size of government.

And it's even getting worse and worse now.

So this is not a great situation to be in.

And I think that they really do love the, the fact that they're making people suffer, firing them when they could be on deferral

deferral.

Yeah.

Right.

They could be furlough furlough.

I was, you know, working for the census that went on.

I was on furloughs as well for a few of those shutdowns.

Yes.

And you got your money eventually.

I did.

I did get my money.

Yes.

I'm a wealthy man now.

Well, good for you.

That all worked out for you.

Okay.

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When we come back, we'll continue with more on John and Gordy in the morning.

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We have some rain showers working their way across Madison right now some wet streets out there looking out our state street window here it's damp and people are carrying their umbrellas so not a bad idea to grab that on the way out the door and

Temperatures today pretty mild high around 69 scattered showers this morning then just kind of cloudy.

Didn't the Beatles want to have a song rain?

Yes, they did.

It was a great song.

You know as well nobody ever always won my favorite

song.

Oh, I know it was really

one of one played

it

was one of the first

psychedelic songs.

I mean, the one that they look back now and go, oh yeah, things really changed with that song.

I love that song.

Yeah, I know.

All right.

We'll

have to find that

down.

All right, well, let's delve into what's going on in Israel right now.

We've been watching Trump.

Who stopped talking finally

finished up with the legislature there?

Yeah, and the hostages have been released.

Yeah.

Yeah, some of them so the ones that survived.

Yes

Alright, should we go to the phone?

Sure.

Let's let's talk to CJ moment here.

Please don't tune out folks.

All right

Good morning

CJ.

Wow guys.

You finally got to the world news.

Oh, we

mentioned it a little

earlier.

You

know, I guess I shouldn't be surprised you get your news from this

No,

I know I was no that wasn't that was a mega who posted the Simpsons picture from a cartoon of people in a bar and he Designated a few people in that bar animated cartoon people as Antifa

So that's the proof that Antifa is out there infiltrating our cartoon network.

All right.

Well,

I guess listening for your party for two and a half years that the border was secure.

Yeah.

You know, we'll find out the truth in the long run.

Well, you forget

that the Republicans

came up.

They're going to follow the money.

That's what it's going to lead to.

The Republicans came

up with an actual bill.

Yeah,

hold on

so much news that I like to backtrack a little bit if I may

well

talked about the ASA the of court of Affordable Care Act, which it isn't You know,

I don't I've been a part

of it.

I think

it's very affordable I'm part of

it the one caller.

Yeah said that you know the Republicans got all kinds of amendments in there They didn't get one amendment the one they wanted

was to allow companies to sell across state lines.

And the Democrats fought that.

That would have given competition.

Competition means lower prices.

Can I

respond to

that?

Can I respond to that?

Sure.

Okay.

When insurance companies were approached about selling across state lines, they decided it was a really bad idea because they had to establish new companies, new...

offices in those states and it wasn't it wasn't a good investment

for them so they didn't know no insurance companies did

not want to go across state lines most of them all right now you have the big ones humana and health care organizations but most of them did not want to cross state lines all right you know just to let you know what happened way back when okay all right keep going

Oh, we got it.

All right.

We have Charles on the line.

Charles on the line.

Let's go to Charles and Milwaukee.

Good morning, Charles.

Hey, good morning, guys.

You know, this guy, I never heard not one Democratic politician say the border was secure.

Not one.

No.

Now, if he can give me the name of one, and I'll research it, but I've never.

I don't know where he comes up with this stuff at.

It's like he just picks it out of the air.

I never heard one Democratic politician say the border was secure.

My

second question is, I wonder what does Mr. Stone have to say about Qatar, building the Trump-led Qatar, build an army base for training on United States soil.

Right, Idaho.

and he's got the nerve to say follow the money you're right follow follow the money because trump and his family has made a whole lot of money and what i think it's only been like maybe seven or eight months since he's been back in office

right well you know the thing here is and i did look at a post from a mega and he was actually pretty right on about that

Army base what what's happening is we sell all of these products to all these different countries and those products have to be you know

their arms, of course, they have to be trained in order to use those.

And what they do is they set up training grounds here in the United States at these army bases.

And that's why they have done what they've done.

I mean, there's a German army base in Texas that they're also helping with.

So there are other two other countries in this country.

And there's actually one other one at the same base that Cutter is going to.

So they train them how to use this weaponry, and that's why we're doing this and helping them out.

Charles, make sense to me,

Charles.

All right, yeah.

All right.

And I learned that from a mega posted a long video, but I thought, you know, this makes sense to me.

So, yeah.

Really?

Okay.

Hey, coming up, we're going to be talking to Steve Cochran from Chicago.

Tell us what's really going on on the ground there.

And he's Chicago radio personality and podcaster.

Got a couple of cuts.

I got

JB Pritzker.

We'll play that for him and a few other.

I think there's a Chicago priest that also spoke.

by a state of emergency there in Illinois.

And again, it's day one of John Nolan Drive construction.

So if you're out there this morning and the rain going down that one lane going each direction, well, they got one lane in one direction, but yeah.

It's only day one of a, what, two-year, three-year project?

Something like that.

And you thought you woke up from a nightmare.

Yeah,

really?

Yes.

Okay.

We're coming back after a check of the Midwest Food and Farm reports.

Steve Cochran with John Peterson and Gordy Young along with Dom Lee.

Stay with us.

WMDX 92.7,

John and Gordon in the morning.

Donna at the controls.

We're heading down to...

Lake Shore

Drive in downtown Chicago.

Let's join Steve Cochran.

He is live from his office this morning.

Good morning, Steve.

Good morning, fellas.

Tell me a story.

What's it like to have winners everywhere?

What's it like when the Packers win and the Brewers win and the Bucks win?

What's it like?

It's really cool.

You know, we gather all the greatest sports players in the world in Wisconsin because it's so safe.

No earthquakes, no fires.

Of course, I'm a transplanted Wisconsinite.

I grew up around Chicago, so I was rooting for the Cubs all the way.

But

my wife is rooting for the Cubs too.

But she's now rooting for the Brewers, and we're going to have the Brewers on our TV set in the evening now.

And that's not good because I want to watch something else.

Well, let's start tonight against the

Dodgers.

Yeah, I know.

It's going to be fun.

It's going to be fun.

And honestly, LA's had enough.

That's what I'm thinking.

Let's do it for you.

Let's do it for you.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bob Uker.

You know, um, you guys are talking about, you know, the risk and danger and things before we came on and I did something stupid this weekend.

I, uh, I was hitchhiking.

Not a great idea with my sucks sign.

Yeah.

Pulling

over.

I mean, you know, I haven't run that far in forever.

That is fantastic.

What a way to get picked up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a rough way to get.

It's a rough way to get a ride, actually.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Cookie, cookie, cookie time in which we live.

You know, you know, I'm thinking, Steve, that maybe because we're so close to Lake Michigan that we might have to start pirate radio stations again.

Out in the water.

Out in the water.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Avoid.

Avoid ice.

There was

a, some people might know the name of the famous diss track in New York and Scott Shannon.

Oh, sure.

And he had a pirate radio thing that he was doing for a while.

And I think he actually thought he was a pirate.

You know, had that voice and the whole thing.

Yeah, like, if you don't protect what's in the bill of rights, you got nothing.

You've got to stand up and scream and you got a shot about it.

As you know, the war in Chicago.

Oh, good God, the

war.

Yeah, how's that going?

Give us the latest just completely unsafe.

You can't go to Walgreens without trying to find a parking space and Not knowing if you're gonna get one and how about Portland?

Oh, you talk about trouble in Portland, you know Portland is the Portland is the city of roses and It's just slightly more violent than Iowa

Um, so I

think,

I think it's trumped up just a bit, just a wee bit, don't you?

Yes.

I, you know, I would think it is a little trumped up, but I like what they're doing in Portland.

They're dressing up in Halloween costumes and protesting that way.

How do you haul somebody like that away?

It looks serious,

right?

Yeah, take it away.

Children's mascots.

Good for you.

Good for you.

You must feel great when you look in the mirror.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

Now, I understand in Chicago, though, some of the folks there have been, well, when they see ice coming, they lock up their doors.

They

lock

up the restaurants.

They don't let them use the bathrooms.

They've been kind of fighting back or, you know, towing their trucks away and stuff

like that.

Yeah, and good for them.

The amazing thing is that

Um, you know, it's all hypocrisy out of Washington to begin with.

The, the idea that you want to have your bread delivered to your table and your plates bust, but the hardest working people in the restaurant.

Oh, and you also want them arrested.

And then you can't understand why you

don't have your bread and you don't know, and you're busing your own table.

And that's just a small example.

You think about the farmers, man.

I grew up in dairy farm country.

You guys know a little bit about dairy far.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What do people think is going to happen?

And I still cannot find a single person who's actually been hurt, hurt by one of these crazed illegals.

You know, it's all a fallacy of Fox News.

It's all, it's insane.

You're out of words on how to describe it.

Well, you know, I did read a story about some in the White House are complaining that he is watching way too much Fox News.

And they hear him yelling and shouting at the TV all the

time.

Well, Grandpa gets crazy.

Yeah.

Oh,

yeah.

Yeah.

Give him some more butterscotch candies because he's all wound up.

Well, how are things going in Chicago?

I mean, you know, this is like this is ground zero, truly, besides Portland.

I mean, this is the place.

And now a judge has said, you know, for two weeks now, they can't send ice agents in or a or national guard from Texas into the state.

So how's the situation playing out over there?

I know I have a cut from JB, by the way.

Okay, let's, let's listen to this cut one 16.

This is JB.

Here we go.

They're going

to thing that's happened and very few people paying attention.

You probably are, uh, which is they, they asked for, they demanded the DOJ did our voter data, not just ours in Illinois, every state's voter data.

Why?

They won't tell us why.

And actually what they seem to be looking for,

remember back to the 2020 elections, is they want to be able to find voter fraud, which lots of organizations have been looking for voter fraud, as you know, for a long time.

There's very little voter fraud going on, very little.

They're calling for all these databases so that they can look through them, and yet they won't tell you when they're going to come up with any conclusion about whatever it is they're looking for.

Next year, when we have a November election, I think you're going to see two things that occur.

One, you won't have had any results from this mass collection of data, of voter data.

And then the second is you're going to have soldiers or people dressed as soldiers at polling places saying we're protecting your voting rights.

You know, this is about voter integrity.

And then...

the possibility that they'll be doing what Michael Flynn urged the president to do back in 2020, which is seize the ballot boxes at the polling places so that we can have the military do a fair count.

Now, if you put all the things together that are happening right now, that doesn't wouldn't surprise me at all.

Think about how hard they fought on this issue of whether the election had been stolen.

in 2020, right?

The January 6th riot being an example of that, but lots of other things.

And then all of those people at January 6th, you know, being pardoned, all of that, put all those together and ask yourself, do you think what I just said is completely ridiculous?

Do you think what I just said is something that's really possible with Trump as president and Stephen Miller in the White House and, you know, and all the same people kind of advising the president that are at the, you know, at the edges of the law?

Well, Steve, I gotta say, J.A.B.

is a real fighter.

He is.

He has been amazing, and to also be funny in the process as well.

I hope people saw the video of him from Ground Zero with his black jacket on.

But what he describes is exactly right.

And the frustrating thing for me, and I know you guys feel the same way, is through the last few years, the lack of an extension of common sense.

You cannot fix an election in this country.

You cannot fix a national election.

There's Democrats and Republicans involved.

And there's too many people involved.

It would be the greatest conspiracy ever.

People can't keep a secret for five minutes about their neighbor without jumping on social media.

And you think you can fix an election?

It's an insane premise.

And the biggest criminal right now in all of it is the attorney general.

She should have been arrested.

and thrown in jail right now.

She's an absolute shill for Trump.

Unbelievable.

And the backstop we have, the only backstop we have are the courts.

And if the Supreme Court doesn't actually do their job, look, I don't know where we go.

Yeah.

Well, in just a few days ago, I mean, the ICE guys down in Chicago went after a journalist through WGN, a camera person or a producer to the

ground.

Yeah, Debbie Brockman she I worked with her briefly don't know her well at all But you know nice lady, you know speaking up.

I don't know if she yelled out the window good Lord in America You can yell out a window.

Oh, we got to shut that down But this notion that this older lady was a threat and she's viciously thrown to the ground as her pants pulled off practically Who are you kidding?

Yeah, yeah, nobody backs it listen.

I backed the police

I back law enforcement.

They have an unbelievably difficult job.

This is law enforcement.

This is thugs.

It really is.

And what you've seen, you know,

Videos all we're watching this in real time.

We're watching children being cuffed and hauled away separate from

their

parents.

It's just outrageous.

I you know, I can't even wrap my head around what's happening and it's being accepted by the mega contingent out there.

I don't understand how this can be acceptable to them.

It may come around to them one of these days,

right?

All right, that's the thing you don't understand, right?

To what end?

You think this is going to stay this way?

Provided we all survive through the other election that the governor was talking about, how do you think this is going to turn around?

Of course it is.

And then what happens?

And you have to count on the Democrats being the ones to be the grown-ups to do the right thing and not act the way this has gone on.

But the fact is they've set up levers and systems and things that you can't unravel.

And you can unravel quickly and there's going to be payback even if it's unintentional payback against Republicans who beat move a leaf in this nonsense

That's right.

We're talking with Steve Cochran.

He's a Chicago radio personality has a great podcast and you can find him at in his office a substack

Article that he has every week or so

We have some stand-up comedy coming up.

Yeah, what what do you have stand-up?

Where are you gonna be November 17?

I'm sorry November 50 I'm gonna be at the Copley theater in Aurora two days before I get my other knee replaced I Had a right knee replaced when we get a left knee replacement because the right knee

is three or four years old.

The left knee is 64 years old.

So the right knee wants to run.

The left knee wants to sit.

I just spent a whole day spinning.

And so we're getting the left knee done.

And yeah.

And but two days before doing standup comedy, it's all like Cochran show dot com.

Thanks for the plug, boys.

All right.

Yeah, sure.

Well, maybe we could plug John and Gordy's.

Antifa After School chapter that we're trying to get in all the public schools now that Turning Point USA is trying to get into the all the K through 12s.

We're thinking of Antifa After School and we're hoping that maybe we'll be accepted at a few here in Wisconsin, right?

Yeah, we're working on it.

We're gonna workshop a little bit more.

I wouldn't change the name.

No.

I don't think they've found any Antifa networks out there still to this day.

Keep looking.

No, again, it's part of the fantasy world they live in.

But make sure you get the pens and the chotchkees.

Because Antifa after school, those are collector's items.

Oh, they will be.

Absolutely.

Oh, OK.

Well,

anyway, what do you think

else?

What's it like, fellas?

What's it like to have a winner?

Yes,

the Brewers.

Well, you know, that's even baseball.

It was it was tight.

It was a tight series.

Yes, you know, that was.

Your chair and you know, I feel bad for the the Cubs, but you know at the same time the walking hasn't been at a series for

ages,

right?

And and like you said before this is all in memory of Bob Euker this whole year Yeah, so it's great to see them move on.

That's right And

I leave you with this he said he knew his career was over when his baseball card came out with no picture, okay?

Steve

Cochran, Chicago.

We'll be back with more.

We'll wrap things up after this on WMDX.

Kathryn Lake

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civic media Okay, it's cloudy out there and kind of cool 59 degrees We'll see highs around 69 today few scattered sprinkles and showers out there, but no big deal

Yeah,

no big

deal.

Why don't we go to the four lines right away?

Okay, wrap up the show with a couple of callers, right?

All right, let's go to dick on the line here.

Good morning dick

Good morning real quick to that mutual admiration society meeting That speech to the canessa where they're blowing smoke up each other's behind The only thing I did hear from Trump I watched very little of it is he said I hate war and proof of it is paraphrasing them I've ended eight words in eight months Well, how come you can't end the war on the American people?

Yeah,

right?

Yeah, I know

quickly.

Yeah.

To the sports over the weekend.

I got a suggestion for Wisconsin football.

Yeah.

Enter the team in the transfer portal and move to division two.

The Badgers.

Okay.

Good.

Well, we'll put that up as a poll question on our site.

Yeah, they got shut out.

All right.

Thanks a lot.

Oh man.

Wow.

I

feel sorry for the Badgers.

Yeah,

students aren't even showing up to get rowdy in the stands.

That's pretty sad, actually.

It really is.

Yeah.

Well, we'll have to, maybe, you know, we can get the John and Gordy, uh,

cheering, cheering squad.

Need uniforms for that.

We got to get uniforms first.

It's always.

No,

it'll be a

nude

cheering squad.

And I think that'll get them out there.

Can't wait for the tryouts.

Yeah.

All right, really?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

All right.

Let's talk about young America's foundation president Scott Walker.

Okay.

I

end on a high note.

Yeah.

He loves young kids.

Oh, does he love them?

He hugs them.

He just cherishes them.

Because, you know, they have very young minds.

What are you talking about?

Easy to brainwash.

No surprise, of course, because, you know, he is the president of Young America's Foundation, which is a college organization.

Yes.

Well, he just loves the idea of Christian nationalist turning point USA getting into those K through 12 schools.

He does.

This is Walker on X. This is what he posted.

They should absolutely be able to have a chapter.

We will fight for students to have Turning Point USA or any other conservative group at their schools.

Any other conservative group?

How about all any other groups like John and Gordy Zantifa after school?

I think

that could work.

It

should be there

on his list.

We still have a curriculum to put together, but we'll have one in time to compete with Turning Point USA, all right?

So anyway, the funny thing is that Lake Country Classical Academy has turned down Turning Point USA.

Now they're a little more on the conservative side,

but

they're a great school and they have great credentials.

So they don't want to have anything to do with Turning Point.

USA.

You

know Scott Walker's been out there a little bit more lately.

He's been on CNN a number of times on some of their roundtables.

I don't know why you know he's a dumbass you know I don't I don't know why we entertain that guy you know it's just not very smart.

I'm laying out there.

I tell the truth here on the program all the time.

Speak your onions.

Yeah sure challenge me on that.

Somebody go ahead call me tell me.

What smart thing did he do?

I'm thinking about it.

I know you're deep in thought now.

You know the thing here is what happened just a few moments ago.

Katherine walked into the studio and all the air just sucked out of the roof.

She's just

she's just staring at us.

She's sitting in the corner away from the microphone

just staring at us.

What happened?

I feel a meeting

is coming

on.

It's

Monday.

Monday.

And we get five minutes left, and I look at five

minutes left, and I look

at some happiness.

Like, what are the first words out of your mouth as I walk in?

Let's talk about Scott Walker.

With five minutes left, what do you think Joe is going to be able to avoid slitting her wrists now?

I

don't know.

Well, you know, I don't have any really funny stories that we could tell right now.

We're

going up!

We're saying we want

to make one

up.

But we're saving that up for our quite low appearance here.

We're on in a few minutes on the network, so we saved all the happy news for that.

That's right.

All the happy, happy, joy, joy news.

Yeah.

Why don't we play John Oliver, cut 86?

Do we have time?

Yeah, he's kind of a funny guy.

Right?

We've got two minutes.

This is John Oliver, a few words

for Trump.

OK.

One day, the history of the time we're living through is going to be written.

And when it is,

I'm not sure it's those in this administration who are even going to come off the worst.

Now, don't get me wrong, they're going to come off terribly.

But history is also going to remember the cowards who definitely knew better, but still let things happen, whether it was for money, convenience or just comfort.

And I know this is something of a tough sell, and it can be a bit of anathema to risk averse business leaders.

But I will say this, if we've learned nothing else from this administration's second term so far, and I don't think we have,

is that giving the bully your lunch money doesn't make him go away.

It just makes him come back hungrier each time.

They are never going to stop.

They've literally said that openly.

After Kimmel's suspension, Trump posted, that leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers on fake news NBC.

Their ratings are also horrible.

Do it, NBC.

And Kara's hinted that the view might be next.

The f***ing view.

Look, at some point,

You're going to have to draw a line.

So I'd argue, why not draw it right here?

And when they come to you with stupid, ridiculous demands, picking fights that you know you could win in court, instead of rolling over, why not stand up and use four keywords they don't tend to teach you in business school.

Not, okay, you're the boss.

Not whatever you say goes.

But instead, the only phrase that can genuinely make a weak bully go away, and that is, fuck you, make me.

There you go.

That's

how you deal with a bully.

Hey, that's going to do it for us.

Tomorrow on the show, Lisa Bernard from the Dane County Humane Society with some animal adoption ideas for you.

Also, Jesse Christensen on the latest THC laws.

We're out of time.

Stephanie Miller's next.

Have a great day.

Kathryn Lake

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