In a dynamic episode filled with light-hearted banter and serious discourse, John and guest host Kathryn Lake navigate through a myriad of topics ranging from the antics of squirrels in Madison to the intense political climate and fears of a looming civil war. They explore the complexities of Trump's presidency, questioning his mental state and the influence of Project 2025. The show takes a thoughtful turn with Dr. Tim Slekar, discussing innovative educational reforms in rural Wisconsin, highlighting AI's role in schools amid China's technological advancements. A whimsical twist features John and Gordy's playful venture into children's literature promoting cursive writing.

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