Canine Conundrum (Hour 2)

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Canine Conundrum (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Tue Oct 7, 2025

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Have a cup of coffee Sit back and relax It's time for John and Gordion WMDX

John Peterson

Good morning Madison

Gordy Young

Are we on the air yet?

Yeah, we're on.

We're on now?

Yeah, we're on now at six.

John Peterson

Seriously?

God, didn't we play music usually before?

We just did.

Well, a little heads up would be nice.

Well, here's the thing.

We were kind of exchanging headphones so we didn't have the volume on or anything like that.

But we did decide whose headphones were whose.

Gordy Young

For whatever reason, whoever comes in here after us has to change everything.

Everything that can be changed is changed.

What's the purpose of that?

John Peterson

Just to screw us up.

This morning here, we just screwed up.

We did not know we were on the air.

I was swearing like a sailor.

I hope I didn't offend

Gordy Young

anybody.

I blame Todd Alba, you know.

Or unless somebody else had to come into the studio to record

John Peterson

something.

Gordy Young

I suppose

John Peterson

we could, you know, steer clear of blaming Todd this time.

But that's fine.

You know, we always blame him for everything else.

Gordy Young

Well, every personality, every person that uses the studio has their own way of doing things, right?

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So they

Gordy Young

have to adjust, you know,

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the

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headphones, the microphones.

All has to be just right.

Well, it has to be just right so

John Peterson

everyone listening this morning can hear us.

That is the big point of the show.

Can we

Gordy Young

start the show over?

Is that

John Peterson

possible?

No.

No.

No, I don't want to go through this again.

Gordy Young

All right.

Well, it's a happy Tuesday.

Yes.

October 7th.

It's WMDX92.7.

It's John Peterson.

I'm Gordy Young.

Dominic Lee is in the producer chair.

Flipping the switches.

punching the buttons.

So what kind of weather are we expecting today there?

John Peterson

I'm

Gordy Young

so glad you asked because we had some rain.

I don't know if

John Peterson

you were up

Gordy Young

early.

No, I didn't actually see or hear it, but some showers.

But that's all moved on out and we have mostly cloudy skies this morning.

53 degrees highs in the mid sixties this afternoon.

John Peterson

You're

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going to check the WMDX Samsung watch for the sunrise

John Peterson

and

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sunset time.

John Peterson

Yeah, people are two minutes.

seven sunrise two hours

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late okay

John Peterson

what

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about sunset six 28 was there a full moon last night does your watch tell you that it

John Peterson

does not kind of fall it

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really doesn't care about the moon okay is it waxing gibbous or whatever it is it

John Peterson

could be I don't know all right we were we were just talking about our special guest coming in at at

652 or something like that.

Yep.

And that is Judy David off editor in chief and president of

Gordy Young

Isthmus.

That's actually that's why we were delayed getting on the air because we were looking at the John Nolan project.

John Peterson

Yeah,

Gordy Young

they have a special pullout section that we were just, you know, both remarking, oh, no.

Oh, three years.

John Peterson

Oh, God.

Yeah, this is not going.

No one's going to allow this from the federal level.

You know, they're gonna save some money.

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We

John Peterson

have a road already across the isthmus.

We don't need another one or a new one or a better one.

We don't need to make America better again.

We need to make it great again for the guy, the orange man in the White House.

So anyway, I was checking out something here.

You know, we always know that it's Halloween because of the stores that pop up all over.

What is the big one that always...

I don't always makes an appearance in spirit spirit.

Yeah, there's a different one now.

It's on the south side around fish hatchery and and And in the battle Anyway, it's a great place dapper cadaver the dapper cadaver love the name.

Yeah, yeah Halloween decor oddities gifts Guess the oddities would be the people working there.

Let's get

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them in

John Peterson

here

Gordy Young

We gotta

Dominic Lee (Producer)

get a, you know,

John Peterson

something different, you know, finally a different store, right?

Dominic Lee (Producer)

Yeah, yeah, it looks, it looks really cool too.

You can check out their website and you just search up, you know, cadaver, what is it, dapper cadaver?

Yeah, dapper cadaver and in

John Peterson

spirit.

Look, nothing bad about the other Halloween store that pops up every once in a while.

I like them.

I like Halloween in general.

What day of the week

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is Halloween

John Peterson

this year?

Friday.

Oh, we

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should all dress up on a Friday.

Rocker have his costume.

What is it?

Darth Vader

John Peterson

costume?

Yes, he does.

Yes.

And I have my Doctor Strange costume.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

John Peterson

But here's the thing, you know, maybe we should make some news here on the show.

Let's have another Halloween State Street Celebration.

Oh, yeah.

Let's bring it back.

If it's on Friday, let's bring everybody back downtown.

Remember when there used to be buses from out of town out of state used to come up and Make an appearance on State Street.

It was jam-packed

Gordy Young

all the way Yeah, all the way from the capital to the campus.

It was just jam-packed with student people breaking windows falling all over themselves

John Peterson

Climbing trees climbing the lamp posts.

Gordy Young

Yeah, it was chaos every Halloween.

It was great.

It was great.

It was so much fun

John Peterson

And the costumes were really imaginative.

The students

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came up with some great stuff.

Very risque costumes.

John Peterson

Oh, all the time.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

Crazy time.

Why'd they get rid of that?

I

John Peterson

guess

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too many people

John Peterson

got hurt.

Too

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many people were killed?

John Peterson

Apparently.

Well, there was always that danger of somebody dying.

I don't think anybody died.

Yeah, there were some injuries.

But we can laugh at those injuries now.

But it wasn't funny to the person injured, that's for

Gordy Young

sure.

Well, right.

I remember one year, a bunch of the people from Channel 47 went down to the

John Peterson

State

Gordy Young

Street here, and somebody had an apartment right above, right above State Street.

It was just, it was great because we could go out there and, you know, go through the crowd for 20 or 30 minutes

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and then

Gordy Young

go back to the apartment and keep drinking and having fun.

It was really cool.

John Peterson

Oh,

Gordy Young

yeah.

Good

John Peterson

times.

So let's, you know, let's make some news.

Let's open up State Street to everyone in the country and bring those Halloween celebrations back.

I think it'd be great.

And if it's on a Friday, oh,

Dominic Lee (Producer)

come on.

Look out.

John Peterson

It just works out

Dominic Lee (Producer)

that way.

It's so

John Peterson

much fun.

Dominic Lee (Producer)

Yeah.

All right.

OK.

Did you guys know I'm actually, I'm hosting a Halloween party on Halloween?

Oh.

Did you guys know that?

At your apartment?

At my apartment?

Well, we must have

Gordy Young

missed the invite.

I don't know.

I'll

Dominic Lee (Producer)

invite

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you guys.

I have it prepared next

Dominic Lee (Producer)

week.

Really?

Do

Gordy Young

you have a party place in the apartment building or is this your own apartment?

Dominic Lee (Producer)

It's my own apartment.

I have all the decorations up already.

It's just a bunch of cobwebs and a bunch of red lighting kind of sets the mood.

Do you have friends coming over

John Peterson

for

Dominic Lee (Producer)

this?

Yeah, a couple.

Yeah, a couple.

Still didn't send the invite out yet, like I said.

Uh-oh, it's out there now.

Now I did.

You're a

John Peterson

little late on this.

I remember the party I had.

I only had one party in my life.

Where, your apartment?

Yeah.

Yeah, no one came.

I don't remember.

No,

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no.

John Peterson

This is way back in the 70s.

I knew a few people, you know, mostly stoners.

And of course, they never showed up.

Forgot, man.

Yeah, I forgot.

But anyway, I was in competition with the other people in my group.

And they had, get this, they would rent a huge movie projector.

and gets and get the Godzilla series movies, you know, Godzilla.

I can't remember the other Mothra.

All the cheap Japanese movies used to come out and they would have showings of them at their big parties that they had.

And I couldn't compete with that.

Not not not a chance.

Gordy Young

Well, it's too bad.

John Peterson

Well, and and don't charge your your in fights $10 I'm kidding.

I didn't do that.

Gordy Young

I remember going to a Halloween party in the 70s and it was at a place in Aurora, Illinois This is when I was living outside of Chicago and a bunch of us went I was in a band at the time we went

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it was

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another bands house party and we were over there and had a good time everybody was great feeling great and

Then we realized later that somebody had spiked the punch and not with alcohol.

Some sort of psychedelic thing started happening with all of us.

John Peterson

Everybody,

Gordy Young

right?

But those were the days they did that kind

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of

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thing.

Surprise.

It was safe back then.

John Peterson

Sure it was.

Gordy Young

They

John Peterson

knew how much to use, how much to spike.

They knew all of

Gordy Young

that stuff.

For a couple of weeks people were smoking banana peels.

They

John Peterson

thought banana peels were high.

And the other one was oregano.

Oh, yeah.

Remember people

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would try that

John Peterson

from time to time.

Try anything.

Carla, Texas.

We're talking about how strange everything is.

Our headphones are all a little skew.

Because somebody else thought the studio would look better with our headphones on the other side of the room.

Anyway, she says, I just got off work and I'm sure the first shift guy feels the same as you.

I hear him moving tables around.

But I do it too because his setup doesn't work for me.

We should all try to be comfortable in our workspace.

Well, that's a very nice thought.

I'll sing Kumbaya.

Gordy Young

Okay.

Good.

All right.

Yeah.

See, we all have to go through them.

I guess so.

All right.

Well, a little bit later on, we're going to be talking with Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spa.

You know pets are shedding this time of

John Peterson

year lots

Gordy Young

of fur flying Yeah,

John Peterson

that's what I'm gonna take care of when I get done with the show today really I'll go home a vacuum and Take care of some of that shedding Pick up some of that and then go into a little her cage

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and we

John Peterson

have

It's not a cage so much, it has walls, but it has a cage too.

And breathable and she goes in there, she sleeps and that's where we put her when we leave the house.

Gordy Young

It's like a kennel, right?

John Peterson

Small kennel.

And it's something everybody should get for their dog.

Everybody, this is how you house train your dog with that kennel because they go in there and they don't usually do anything in their kennel because

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it's

John Peterson

their space.

And then you can put them in there when you go to work or go shopping or something like that.

And it's always the best way to handle your pet.

And they love going in there.

Believe it or not, my dog at night is insisting that she go to bed, and go into the kennel, and she's knocking on the door, and she's bothering us like, hell, because she's got to get her beauty sleep.

What's a safe space for her?

Oh, those border collies, you know, they're so caught up in themselves.

Yes, they are.

Gordy Young

Also later today, we're going to talk to Judy David off the new isthmus is out the October issue and That's what we were talking about when we started this John Nolan project.

John Peterson

We're gonna ask her

Gordy Young

Could I ask her if it's really is it not too late to just stop and don't do this?

We just pull the plug on this.

I have a feeling it's not gonna happen anyway because of the federal funding Well, that's the thing.

It's I mean According to this, yeah, the whole project is 42 million dollars and that's just for phase one

And the city is coming up with eight to nine million and 33 million is

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federal.

Gordy Young

Not good.

Federal funds.

Okay.

John Peterson

Again, there's a

Gordy Young

big orange blob

John Peterson

know about this yet.

The orange blob is not going to care whether we can get from one side of the town to the other.

They don't they don't care.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

Well, I hope everything goes according to plan.

John Peterson

And then we'll be three three years of construction

Gordy Young

nightmares here downtown.

That's right.

But I'm sure we'll all get through it together.

19 minutes past the hour, we're just getting going on this Tuesday morning, coming back with more of John and Gordy.

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It's 23 minutes past the hour.

It's going to be okay today.

Temperatures climbing into the mid 60s, about 65 degrees with plenty of sunshine.

Looks like we're done with the rain that's moving out.

So right now, 53 degrees.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

So, uh, well, the Cubs wait, hang on a second.

All right.

Oh, okay.

Uh, the Brewers beat up on the Cubs last night.

Seven to three, I think was the final.

So now the Brewers are up two games to nothing in this five game series.

So they traveled to Chicago now to Wrigley Field and have three games down there.

Of course, the Cubs will win all three games and go on to the next level of the playoffs or not.

Well, Brewers just need one more game.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, this was this is a great series to start the whole thing off.

I just

I love this and my wife just loves watching the Cubs lose.

No.

SPEAKER_00

She has all the Cubs regalia, right?

She has a uniform.

She has everything.

SPEAKER_02

She doesn't even need the team anymore.

She has the clothing line.

So, here's the thing about the Cubs thing, and I really enjoy the Cubs.

They've been an underdog for so many centuries.

And because of that, everybody loves the underdog.

I'm a big fan of the Cubs as well.

And when I'm watching the Cubs play the Brewers, there's nothing like it.

And I think that's why people go to the stadium to see them play because, you know, they're fans of the Brewers and they're fans of the Cubs.

SPEAKER_00

Well, sure.

Yeah, they're only 90 minutes apart.

Yeah.

So why not?

But, you know, since the Cubs won the World Series in 2016 and the Brewers haven't ever, you know,

won the World Series at all.

So now the Brewers are kind of the underdogs.

But they've got a great team this year and they could go all the way.

They really have a good team.

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I almost caught a follow ball from one of the Brewers.

Oh well.

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I could tell a story.

No I'm just kidding.

I won't tell a story

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again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but we have Mark on the line here this morning.

Good morning, Mark.

What's on your mind?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, good morning.

Yeah, good morning.

I heard CJ talking about page 57 again yesterday.

SPEAKER_00

There we go.

SPEAKER_01

He was on, I heard him on Tom Hartman even.

I

SPEAKER_02

heard, I heard him on Tom

SPEAKER_01

Hartman.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And, and I don't know what the heck he's talking about because I looked up the document from the Democrats.

You know that they're continuing resolution here, and I can't figure out what the heck he's talking about this 200 Billion dollars these guys what he's quoting from there and efforts going right from that Document or or from something else that I haven't been able to find but

SPEAKER_04

Yeah,

SPEAKER_01

I don't you know that you know trying to be respectful here But I mean it that I don't know where he what orifice he's pulling that from whether it's you know Donald Trump's

Well well

SPEAKER_02

Tom Hartman didn't know where to go with it either he kind of you know took off on another tangent that CJ had brought up you know he brought some brings up about three or four issues at the same time so yeah

It was it was interesting, but yeah, I don't know what he's talking about either in regards to that and we're talking about you know Certainly trying to get some funding for health care Which is something the Republicans in their big bad bill had passed and they're touting how great it is that they cut health care for so many people who're sticking to it man They don't even want to give an inch on helping people at the emergency room get some care.

They want people to bleed out this really does

say a lot about that right mark

SPEAKER_01

what i mean that and that's that's the point i mean that it's not to give indirect money directly to these people not giving them insurance and it's just simply reimbursing the hospitals for money the hospitals are putting out and if we if the hospitals don't get it they're going to get it from someplace and they're going to get it for increasing their fees to to the rest of us and i think it's just uh... and the whole humanity thing of it at all is that

that they claim to be good Christians and that my read of Matthew 25 actually says we're supposed to be taken care of each other.

Nations and people are supposed to be judged on whether we took care of the least of our brothers and sisters.

Even the people in prison were supposed to be taken care of and why they're not recognizing this and insisting on being an Old Testament rather than the Christians were supposed to be, which is

You know, I just rely on the New Testament and I think that some of them go a little too far in actually going into the letters rather than just to gossip themselves.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm surprised Christians aren't really angry about Jesus Christ giving away free healthcare and incurring people's diseases.

I don't know, you know, they should be angry about that because that's said a bad president.

And you know, Democrats are continuing that precedent as we continue in history here, but they don't want to follow that.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure it was pretty walk when he

SPEAKER_02

wouldn't

SPEAKER_01

forgive for giving the centers and pretty pretty walk when he's chasing the money changers out of the out of the out of the temple.

SPEAKER_02

Well, thank God we changed that now.

I mean, we replaced Jesus with Charlie Kirk.

So I've seen him right up there with all the greats.

Okay,

SPEAKER_00

Mark.

SPEAKER_01

Something else.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

All right, thanks.

608-879-8255.

Okay.

It's 29 past the hour coming up.

We've got the Midwest food and farm report.

We do, yes.

In our next half hour, Judy David off from the Isthmus will be with us.

And also later on, we'll talk to Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spots all coming up.

Of course, idiocracy right around the corner.

Indeed.

Yes, please stay with us.

It's John and Gordy on WMDX.

Radio Host

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.

With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Senator John Kennedy

What an idiot!

Oh, what a loser!

Now listen, Grapehead.

I'll explain it so even you can understand

Radio Host

it.

Idiocracy!

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

John (co-host)

Well done most of the time and we prove it each and every day on Idiocracy.

John and Gordy in the morning.

WMDX 92.7.

Gordy (co-host)

Yes, and you can call us at 608-879-8255.

Weather for today, no problem at all.

We had some rain overnight.

That's out of here.

It's a cool start.

53 degrees highs in the mid 60s this afternoon.

We have a new poll question up, John.

Do we?

Finally.

WMDXradio.com.

Go to our poll question.

It's what's the true sign that fall has arrived in Madison?

OK, that's the question.

What's the true sign?

That's

John (co-host)

not my question.

I swear she was going to put my question on there.

Why?

Who?

Catherine?

Catherine, yeah.

Well, I don't know.

I don't know what happened.

I'm not in

Gordy (co-host)

charge of the whole question.

I guess this

John (co-host)

was much more important than saving the country, or at least, you know, getting

Radio Host

an

John (co-host)

idea of what people think about where the country is going at this point.

But go ahead.

Yeah, let's listen to about the fall colors.

Gordy (co-host)

The true sign that fall has arrived in Madison.

Here are your choices.

All right.

The first football Saturday at Camp Randall.

That's 20 percent right now.

That was.

weeks ago.

Okay, farmers market pumpkins replacing zucchini.

That's at 40%.

Packer fans in every grocery store aisle.

That's 20%.

And what's the last true sign that falls arrived in Madison?

A sudden need for both shorts and a parka in the same day.

That's a 20%.

John (co-host)

Yes, I've heard a lot of people

Gordy (co-host)

are giving up their shorts.

John (co-host)

Just a rumor.

Gordy (co-host)

All

John (co-host)

right.

Well,

Gordy (co-host)

that sounds anecdotal.

I don't know what to say.

I'm

John (co-host)

sorry.

Okay.

Don't normally report anecdotal evidence here on the show, but that's just one thing I heard.

Gordy (co-host)

Okay.

Go to wmdxradio.com and check out the poll.

Okay.

All right.

Idiocracy.

It's

John (co-host)

time

Gordy (co-host)

for

John (co-host)

Idiocracy.

Gordy (co-host)

Well, you

John (co-host)

know, we have Matt who texted us this morning.

He said, people in the UK and Europe are also being told the same lies about immigrants receiving

health benefits and housing at the taxpayer's expense.

This is highly suspicious, but only if you have, if you use critical thinking.

Radio Host

So, yeah, I

John (co-host)

know, you know, a lot of these countries are copying each other in all of these little excuses about cutting, money, funding, and at least taking

it'll all out and somebody else, right?

Blames somebody else

Radio Host

and that's

John (co-host)

what the whole thing is about.

All right, let's go to, let's go to actually, let's go to healthcare here.

Mega Mike Johnson keeps churning out the big lie, Dems want healthcare for illegal immigrants when in fact Dems want healthcare subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

That's what we want.

And we also want to restore pain in the hospitals for emergency care for anybody who shows up at the emergency room.

It's not just for immigrants.

It's for everybody.

But I guess, you know, they want to stop paying hospitals.

Wow.

You know, we are really truly making America great again in some way, shape, or form some image that they have.

Johnson and every other mega never brings up the ACA COVID tax credit.

When they talk about this, they just bring up

the immigrants, right?

Right.

So the news networks shut Johnson's lie down live on the air and fact checked him.

And I have this recording of what they did.

Let's listen to it.

Narrator

Joe Biden used executive orders and he expanded benefits health care to illegal aliens in his four year term.

That was an outrageous violation of

the existing federal law.

Radio Host

Okay I want to pull out just to make sure we don't offer misleading information when it comes to what the facts are and what the laws are.

Narrator

Now why are we saying that they want to return and restore taxpayer funded benefits to

Radio Host

legal aid because

Narrator

that's exactly what they did.

When they rejected the clean CR that we sent over.

the Senate filed the Senate

Fact-Checking Reporter

Democrats.

He's trying to frame the shutdown as a Democratic shutdown.

He also falsely claimed that Democrats want to give health care and health care to illegal immigrants.

That is not true.

John (co-host)

That's not true.

That's not true.

They're giving hospitals the money in order to take care of everybody in the emergency room, not just immigrants.

Here's Newt Gingrich saying the same thing.

You ignore the extension of the COVID tax credits for the Affordable Care Act.

Newt Gingrich

What happened there?

You're talking to the guy who did it.

Yeah, what happened there?

We shot it for, it was very simple.

We shot it for five days to get their attention.

We shot it for 10, 29 days over Christmas and New Year's.

But we said to the entire country, we are doing this to get to a balanced budget.

And we did get the only four balanced budgets in the last 100 years.

So the country said, oh.

They're really serious, and it's something I want.

Now, these guys are in the opposite position.

The country doesn't want to give billions to illegal immigrants.

No.

The country doesn't want to give billions to guys who won't go to work.

The country doesn't want to give billions to people who are, in fact, crooks.

So the Democrats are jumping up and saying, if I yell health care, you'll be too stupid to know what I'm doing.

Right.

And if I decide I'm going to stop the government, you won't figure out I did it.

You know, the crooks.

John (co-host)

Right?

Yeah.

Taking advantage of health care.

So what do they do?

They get sick purposely so they could be a crook and steal money away from the health care funding.

I get it now.

Oh, yeah, that's it.

That's the plan.

And Senator John Kennedy, who has really smeared the name of John Kennedy, comes right out and says it, no health care extension for the ACA.

What do you have to say?

This is gold, man.

And I want to play this over and over and over again.

Just to remind him, this is what they think truly.

This is what they think.

And a big thank you.

All right.

John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy.

Let's listen.

Senator John Kennedy

The socialist wing of the Democratic Party does not like Senator Schumer and he wants them to like him.

He wants them to love him.

They have asked that government be shut down and Senator Schumer has agreed.

But once you shut down government, you gotta figure out how to get it back open.

A wise person once said, if you pray for rain, you gotta be prepared to deal with the mud.

Gordy (co-host)

And I

Senator John Kennedy

don't know how they're gonna deal with the mud because we will never, never ever agree to this list of demands.

Gordy (co-host)

If you pray for rain, you gotta deal with the

John (co-host)

mud.

I'm just waiting for him to break into an endorsement of Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Who is that guy?

It's John Kennedy.

Oh man, I

Gordy (co-host)

tell

John (co-host)

ya.

Somebody did say that he really doesn't talk like that.

Gordy (co-host)

He just puts that accent on when he's on

John (co-host)

camera.

When he's on camera.

Representing whatever crazy southern accent he wants.

Anyway, that's the story on the ACA.

benefits that we want to extend and keep everybody on healthcare.

That's what it's all about.

Let's go to the phone lines right now.

We've got Charles, Charles and Milwaukee.

Good morning, Charles.

Charles from Milwaukee (caller)

Hey, good morning guys.

So yeah, so I also heard the, um, we're a crazy call on, on Tom Hartman yesterday as well.

And I think one of the major things that people are forgetting is that immigrants annually

Pay in about almost a hundred billion dollars in federal and taxes and they don't see a penny of it

John (co-host)

Yeah, you know, I'm glad you brought that up I often times forget to bring that up and I'm glad you did and I I believe that Tom Hartman also brought that up they do

pay in, they don't get any benefits back.

So it's huge the amount of money they pour into Medicare and Social Security and get nothing for it.

But all we're giving them is help in the emergency room, the final place where they can go to get help.

So it's brutal and it's cruel on top of that, right Charles?

Charles from Milwaukee (caller)

It is, you know, these are the people that you see walking around with their big crosses on and I'm shocked they don't burn up with a hole in their chest.

And one more thing before I go, you know, Mike Johnson is going to keep, he's going to keep, he's going to keep skirting around this issue because, as soon as they, as soon as Johnson, you know, get the nerves to swear in the

One from Arizona.

He has the votes to bring out the Epstein files.

And that's what this is all about.

That's what this is all about.

They can't bring up the Epstein files, so they will shut the government down.

They will hurt their constituents because they know the bigger picture is who's in that Epstein files.

John (co-host)

Good point.

Thank you,

Gordy (co-host)

Charles.

Thank you.

Let's go to Kurt.

Good morning, Kurt.

Kurt (caller)

What do you got morning gentlemen?

This is this is one of the biggest problems the Democrats have is they fail to use The word lie they have to start coming right out of the box and think he's lying Keep on using word lie lie lie every one of them and start seeing life

But you look at Jeffries, Mr. Hands, you know, he can't

John (co-host)

keep his damn

Kurt (caller)

hands.

Oh, I

John (co-host)

know.

I know.

It's crazy.

Kurt (caller)

It's not robotic.

John (co-host)

Oh, my God.

It's like one of those puppets, you know.

It's like a

Gordy (co-host)

muffin.

A marionette.

A muffin.

It's just

John (co-host)

like, you know, they always use the sticks to move the arms around.

Kurt (caller)

You've got to

John (co-host)

stop doing that, Jeffries.

It's driving us all crazy.

Kurt (caller)

All right.

But they just have to listen to this.

He said this lie.

He said this lie.

He said this lie.

Democrats, this is why us progressive kids so angry with, with our Democrats who represent us.

They just failed to say what it is, not a mistruth or he didn't speak right.

No, it's a lie.

That's what it is.

Gordy (co-host)

Right.

John (co-host)

Yeah.

Gordy (co-host)

Absolutely.

John (co-host)

Kurt, thank you for your call.

We tried to do that often on this show.

It's, you know, just lies.

But

Gordy (co-host)

it's what it's all about.

Yeah, that law in the emergency room is the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act that's been in place since 1986.

Right, Reagan passed that

John (co-host)

baby.

Gordy (co-host)

That's right.

And he was

John (co-host)

against Medicare.

That's one time.

Yeah,

Gordy (co-host)

and it's still enforced.

Well, it has to be enforced.

We're kind of country, aren't we?

John (co-host)

Exactly.

We don't make it greater by turning away people at the emergency room.

Gordy (co-host)

It seems wrong

John (co-host)

to me, I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know if we have time for this.

We don't all right.

Let's go to something really silly to close out this segment of Idiocracy It's a parody song of don't fear the reaper Naming Russell vote as the reaper Let's listen to Jen Psaki.

She puts things together in the bigger picture style, which I really like I mean, she's really getting good at this This is cut 50.

Let's listen to her observation on this

Jen Psaki

That's right, Senate Republicans are proceeding with a major fundraising retreat with top Republican donors, a retreat held by the NRSC at a luxury five-star resort in Sea Island, Georgia.

It started this evening.

It's a private island with miles of Atlantic beachfront, three championship golf courses, more than a dozen on-site restaurants, and a five-star spa.

So the government may shut down, but at least some Senate Republicans are planning to have a pretty good time this weekend, I guess.

It's also a very interesting choice, is one way to describe it, to hold lawn games in Sea Island, Georgia, while 750,000 federal workers are furloughed.

Thousands more are working without pay.

And if you think the objects of a luxury weekend vacation at this moment look distasteful or out of touch are honestly downright insane, consider what Trump posted on social media this morning.

This weird AI video, gleefully celebrating Russell votes promise to fire federal workers, cancel federal projects, and gut the federal government during an already painful shutdown.

As you can see, the video features both Donald Trump and Russ vote dressed as the Grim Reaper, all set to a bad parody of the song Don't Fear the Reaper.

Real political genius over there, guys.

Yeah, looks good because nothing reassures people in the country worried about their livelihoods more than the literal personification of death, which is basically what that weird AI video does.

Yeah.

John (co-host)

No, we're coming across as the grim reapers.

Wow.

That's unsettling.

Gordy (co-host)

That's anything.

So it is a coming up next.

We're going to talk to Judy David off to get the latest on the new issue of Isthmus.

on China

Newt Gingrich

Accordion.

John (host)

John and Gordy in Madtown, State Street, just down the way from the Capitol.

And this is the John and Gordy in the morning show, along with Don Matthews Controls.

And you can check us out on the Civic Media app as well and listen through it on your car

Gordy (host)

stereo.

That's right.

It's cool today.

53 degrees highs in the mid sixties.

Time for us to welcome in Judy David off from Ismus.

Good morning, Judy.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Good morning.

Thanks for having

John (host)

me.

Oh yeah, this is a Madison Institution, the

Gordy (host)

ISMIS.

Judy is the editor and president of ISMIS and this issue is a great issue.

Every issue is great but this one, what a beautiful cover on the October issue here of

Scary

John (host)

purplish.

A

Gordy (host)

scary cat.

Cat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very, very nicely done by a young man named Stefan Madiak, I think.

Something like

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

that.

Yeah, I believe

John (host)

so.

Yeah, great stuff.

So there's a big pullout in this issue about what's happening to John Nolan Drive, the causeway.

Gordy (host)

over the next three or four years.

In fact, this is a nice, as John mentioned, a pullout section that you can have with you for the next three years.

John (host)

You can carry it in your pocket anyway.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

I'll tell you, I'm not sure we thought about that, but I'm glad that you told

Gordy (host)

me.

Well, there are so many, there's great, great questions and answers all the way through this about what is about to happen starting October 13th.

One thing

John (host)

stood out and we're really worried about this is

All told it's about 42 million dollar project in phase one.

The city is going to come in between eight and nine million and there's about 33 million in federal funds held tight by the Trump administration.

You expect to see that come in at all.

You

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

know, um, I, uh,

John (host)

yeah, I know,

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

I, um, you know, I actually, I trust.

our, um, city staffers, um, for the most part, um, I think that they're on top of these things.

And I, um, you know, this is a, um, state, um, it's a shared project, right?

So, um, this is state DOT.

I think that they wouldn't say we're breaking ground on, you know, October 13th, which is, you know, less than a week away.

Um, if they.

You know, we're really unclear about the money

John (host)

because it's it's it's in the form of rich funds.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Yeah, it doesn't.

You know,

Gordy (host)

I think what to tell you one of the biggest questions a couple of questions here.

Will people still be able to drive over the causeway during this whole project?

And the answer is yes on a bike.

No, well,

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

right.

So that's the first phase of the project.

The bike path will still be open the second phase.

they're going to have to close it down and they will be reconstructing it as

Gordy (host)

well.

And a number of other things, you know, this has been in the works for some time and they've, you know, they went to a meeting, I don't know, it was a year ago, almost.

John (host)

Yeah.

Gordy (host)

Where they kind of explained all of this and and now it's time and it covers this issue of bismuth and this pullout section really covers just about everything

John (host)

There's a great picture in here showing you just how many lanes where the lanes will be where the trees will be where the bike path and pedestrian walk will be Looks pretty cool.

You know, I mean two lanes of traffic going in each direction essentially

So just to kind of ease everybody's mind, we won't be, you know, it won't be one lane and making two lanes for the bike

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

path during construction.

John (host)

That's the key.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

That's

Gordy (host)

the key right there.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Yeah.

That is the key.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

But no, I think once it's done, I mean, especially to separate the uses on the bike path and the walking path, you know, more and more these paths are getting very crowded with different uses, you know, e-bikes, cargo bikes, road bikes.

And the more you can separate the uses, I think, the better.

John (host)

Yeah.

Now, one of the biggest stories you have in this issue is the legal loopholes and cannabis laws leave consumers vulnerable is the title of the article.

And this is going to have a huge effect on State Street and downtown in the city.

We have so many of these cannabis shops popping up all over the place.

This would be a huge hit to the economy here.

Don, what did we count?

Gordy (host)

12 or 13 on

John (host)

State Street alone?

13

Gordy (host)

dispensaries.

So yeah, this law will have some impact.

Yes.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Yes, if things happen.

John (host)

It's a really a very, very good article written by Margaret Shreiner.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Yes, and I just want to sort of clarify.

So one of the nice things since we've gone back to print as a monthly and non-profit is this collaboration we have with Wisconsin Watch.

So Wisconsin Watch actually produces this article.

They really do almost all the heavy lifting.

We publish it in print.

Their material is available really for free to anyone for reprint, but very few people really have the print option at this point, and we do.

So we try to pretty much every month do one of their stories, and it gives them a different audience, gives them a little bit more reach.

especially locally.

And of course, for us, it's just great content that we get to offer.

Gordy (host)

And one of the articles I want to mention is this fits us to a tee.

There's a new t-shirt shop, Ray Gunn.

This is pretty cool.

Iowa t-shirt retailer has opened a t-shirt shop where Paul's books used to be, right?

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Yep.

Yep.

And Jane Burns, who, you know, has a tie to Iowa, she's actually living there now.

You know, it's written about this before.

What I want to know is the Isthmus one.

Gordy (host)

Yes.

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

Where did they get that idea?

Gordy (host)

That was brilliant.

Yeah.

I wouldn't

Judy Davidoff from Isthmus (guest)

have gotten

Gordy (host)

that idea.

It is a very funny t-shirt.

Yeah, Madison Isthmus.

Well, you have to see it to believe it.

John (host)

Yeah, that's good.

That's a good idea.

Yeah, very good, Judy.

Well, well, thanks for keeping us in touch with what's going on in Madison.

It's one of the great newspapers that this city can brag about forever.

Yes, available

Gordy (host)

on your newsstands, absolutely free every first Thursday of the month.

Thank you very much, Judy.

Good talk to you.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Thank you.

That's Judy David off the editor and president of Isthmus.

John (host)

She's

Gordy (host)

the king of the Isthmus.

Coming up in our next hour, we're going to talk with us Serenity Pet Spots, Liz Johnston about what you should be doing with your pet this time of year as they shed all their fur and get ready for colder

John (host)

months.

We've got more bigger stories coming up as well.

Yeah, stay with us.

Unidentified commentator agreeing on 'more cowbell'

No.

Gordy (host)

That's Don't Fear the Reaper, a song obviously redone in parody form that was retweeted by Trump.

And the lyrics, now the time has come, here the power is gone, Russell is the reaper, he wields the pen, the power in the brain, here comes the reaper, Dems you are babies, here comes the reaper, gonna tie your hands, here comes the reaper.

Well

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

it's

Gordy (host)

always a very positive message.

Why are Trump fans and vote pushing death and violence on their people?

I don't understand.

What a weird message.

Strange.

Okay.

All right.

Well, we got a text here.

Oh, yeah.

Trump was ringing the bell in that rather odd AI video.

Trump should remember the bell tolls for thee as well.

Need more cowbell.

Good point, man.

John (host)

More cowbell.

Gordy (host)

It

Unidentified commentator agreeing on 'more cowbell'

sounded great, but...

I could have used a little more cowbell.

John (host)

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah.

Seven minutes past the hour.

It's a cloudy start this morning.

We had some rain earlier and looks like most of that's out of here.

We'll see some sunshine mixed in with the clouds and highs around 65 today, right now, 53 degrees.

Gordy (host)

All right, we got another text from Scott.

Democrats in Congress should start a bill

where we remove Antifa monuments from the United States to show how ridiculous this whole thing is.

Let's name some Antifa monuments to remove.

Yeah, this whole fabrication that every protester is now Antifa is absolutely absurd and so stupid, but you know, it's actually working.

All the magas are talking about the protesters now as Antifa, which is pathetic.

But I don't know, where are the Democrats on this one?

We really have to stop that.

So much for wishful thinking.

You know, Tango, ridiculous.

You know, it's Don't Fear the Reaper, a parody song.

Well, now Benny Johnson, he's a right-wing podcaster, and he has found a way to get clicks for his website, because now he's going after Netflix, the cartoon characters who are coming out as transgender in this cartoon that was canceled, but...

two years ago, kids don't care, and if they did, parents need to answer some questions.

The kids really don't care about transgender, whether they come out or not, whether they're in the cartoons, whether they're a character in the cartoons, they just don't care.

It doesn't matter to them.

It really does not.

But anyway, Benny Johnson wants to boycott Netflix so much for free speech, right?

Congressman...

Tim Bershet, this guy's crazy as hell.

He came up against Netflix too and the executives.

Really?

He was talking to a lot of these executives in Congress about all of this, this sexualized transgender show with young kids as viewers.

Let's listen to this is Tim Bershet at these hearings.

This is unbelievable stuff.

Enjoy.

Stephen Miller (interviewee)

Would you be in favor

Gordy (host)

of?

Stephen Miller (interviewee)

Uh, the Netflix leadership being asked to sort of testify over this, uh, around sexual

Congressman Tim Burchett (interviewee)

ideology.

Every time we're on, I always say I'm going to do something that makes news.

Let me, here's what I want to do on this one.

Cause the first amendment and all that, all that stuff.

Let's, let's get on it.

I'm going to follow up with my folks after we get off and we'll call them and say, which committee.

can may be brought in front of is who I think what we have to look at who regulates the FCC and then since it's cable does that count I don't know I don't know enough about it but yeah

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

yeah

Congressman Tim Burchett (interviewee)

they need to be brought

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

in we need to find out

Congressman Tim Burchett (interviewee)

what their agenda is and why they're pushing this stuff because from what I understand that little cartoon is apparently the number one rated

cartoon they have on their show.

I haven't seen it.

It looks kind of like claymation or something.

Gordy (host)

No,

Congressman Tim Burchett (interviewee)

no, it's not.

You know, I said something about it and immediately immediately the left pounded on me and said something about, oh, you're just upset because it's a racial family.

You know, and and I know some gay folks and they are getting a little more ticked off about the transgender situation.

Oh, they are getting lumped in.

That's not their fight.

I don't think that's their fight.

They need to pull off all that garbage.

And because, you know, they got their win, they got their marriage thing going.

And nobody cares.

Everybody's looking for a fight.

And nobody.

I live in East Tennessee and nobody cares.

Nobody cares.

And yeah, so I live your own dad gum life.

Just I always tell people, don't put it in my face and don't tax me.

And that's all I care about.

Right.

That right there is recruiting.

That is grooming.

That is

That is the worst of the worst because they're taking young minds and they know they can do that.

Gordy (host)

So in what happens to those young minds, they're introduced to transgender individuals and that's not a good thing, I guess, somewhere.

According to him, of course, he doesn't want it in his face.

As long as it's not in his face and he's not taxed, he's okay with it, except now he's not okay with it.

This grooming thing that they keep coming back to.

That's all they think about.

In response to that, here's a response from one of the individuals.

This is pure political theater, Netflix showcasing trans characters, isn't evil, it's representation and inclusion, non indoctrination, dragging private companies to Congress for diversity in programming is an overreach of government power and a waste of taxpayer money.

Thank you.

There

John (host)

you go.

Gordy (host)

Thank you very,

John (host)

very much.

Hey, let's go to the phones.

Joe is on the line.

Joe (caller)

All

John (host)

right.

Good morning, Joe.

Go ahead.

Joe (caller)

Well, I did, I did want to indicate that, uh, you know, every, um, conventional system comes with an off switch.

So if you really

Gordy (host)

don't, there you go.

They don't have to watch it, you know, and if you're a good parent, you won't have the kids watching it.

Joe (caller)

Yes, it's remarkable.

There's an off button.

There is a solution.

I did.

You mentioned Tim Burchett, the Tennessee Congressman, and it was ringing a few little bells.

And I just wanted to add to the picture that Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett believes that extraterrestrial beings may inhabit five or six underwater bases off the US coast.

In a discussion with UFO researcher, now get this name, Red Panda Koala.

Oh, I don't

Unidentified commentator

know.

Joe (caller)

He mentioned that Navy personnel site high speed underwater crash that can, that exceed conventional submarines.

And he said these entities could have been remained hidden in the oceans for thousands of years.

So that's Tim Gershet.

So let's take advice from him and his underwater alien bases.

I'm all for it.

Gordy (host)

Well, what is that red panda?

What was the last

Joe (caller)

one?

Koala.

Koala.

Gordy (host)

This

Joe (caller)

guy, it

Gordy (host)

sounds like this guy's looking for a little hug or love.

Joe (caller)

Yeah.

Yeah.

The alien entities, you know, are just getting him a little spooked.

But, you know, I highly recommend an off switch.

You can always go to an off

Gordy (host)

switch.

Yeah.

Good point.

Thanks for that reminder.

John (host)

Appreciate that call.

608-879-8255.

Gordy (host)

Well, you know, while we're teaching kids about transgender individuals, Steven Miller would like to teach kids about

How to love America now this is this is grooming as well as far as I could see this is cut 72 72 72

Stephen Miller (interviewee)

children will be taught to love America children will be taught to be patriots children will be taught civic values for schools that want federal taxpayer funding so as we close the Department of Education and we provide funding to states

Gordy (host)

Yes.

Stephen Miller (interviewee)

We are going to make sure that these funds are not being used to promote communist ideology.

For any nation to be successful, it cannot teach its children to hate themselves and to hate their country.

So these are a few of the areas in which President Trump has fought the cancerous communist woke culture that was destroying this country where we led to believe that men were women, that women were men, that racial discrimination was good, that merit was bad.

and that safety and physical security matter less than the feelings of liberal ideologues.

Gordy (host)

OK, well, you know, it really came out hard against the liberal left in that statement.

And all I can say, you know, if we're communists and we're trying to destroy the country and we're all terrorists, I just want to say that Stephen Miller sounds just like a Nazi.

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

OK, that's

Gordy (host)

Nazi talk right there.

So, yeah,

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

there we go.

Gordy (host)

Mack Atcha.

I just can't stand him.

Let's go to Dick on the line and I need a break.

Okay.

Good morning, Dick.

What do you got for

Dick (caller)

us?

Good morning.

Real quick, I think you guys should be ashamed of what you did to CJ before he got his talking points yesterday.

Really?

Yeah.

I thought you were fair journalists until that, but off topic, but onto Miller.

Yes.

This supposed interview that CNN did with the president.

that's some scary stuff because it's done all by a text back and forth and he's given how do you know who's behind that phone texting back you don't right so it's not an interview in any sense of my you know i tell my kids i very rarely text people yeah there's a lot left out of the equation especially if you're the president and you're talking to a reporter about something you know you don't have voice and play you don't have a lot of things in a text

But you truly have nothing when you don't know who's texting you.

A lot of senses.

It was probably Miller that was texting back the messages to CNN.

Gordy (host)

I know.

Yeah.

I had that same kind of suspicion as well.

You know, he's he's the guy that's out front right now.

Yes.

Yeah.

He's the spokesperson.

Yes.

Yeah.

John (host)

Could be.

Gordy (host)

All right.

Dick, good theory.

We'll look up on that.

We'll try to find more if we can.

Alright, let's go to a question to Caroline Levitt here.

This is cut 71.

Levitt really thinks nothing is wrong with having military occupation.

Let's listen.

Unidentified interviewer of Caroline Levitt

If the courts allow you to ultimately send in the National Guard into Chicago and Portland.

Do Democrats not have reason to be concerned that there are long-term plans by this administration to keep U.S.

military or the National Guard in American cities like what we're seeing here in Washington?

Caroline Levitt (interviewee)

Why should they be concerned about the federal government offering help to make their cities a safer place?

They should be concerned about this.

They should be concerned about the fact that people in their cities right now are being gunned down every single night.

And the President, all he's trying to do is fix it.

complete smear campaign by the Democrats and the media, quite frankly.

I was reading political playbook this morning, one of the most inside the beltway newsletters you can find.

And you guys are framing this like the president wants to take over the American cities with the military.

The president wants to help these local leaders who have been completely ineffective in securing their own cities.

Gordy (host)

Well, okay, I I don't think she understands how uncomfortable people feel having the military on their sidewalks and streets of their cities and towns

John (host)

Well, the president isn't really supposed to send in the military unless it's an emergency and there's

Gordy (host)

a

John (host)

national, you know Exactly lisha that's called for you know all the governors don't want the military coming in and

You know, they can call up the National Guard if there's really an emergency.

They can do it in,

Gordy (host)

you know, in their states.

It's this weird thing.

They think that they have the solution to stopping crime altogether.

We've got Tom Tiffany running for governor and he's angry about a crime that took place outside of fraternity here in Madison saying, we've got to take control of this.

Seriously, if he's governor, we're not going to have that happen anymore.

There's no crime whatsoever in the state if he becomes governor.

What are they talking about?

They're just outrageous and Tom Tiffany is trying to be the next.

Trump.

I call him, I call him Mini Trump Tiffany because he is jumping on this

John (host)

bag, bandwagon of fear.

Coming back with more of John and Gordy on WMDX.

Donald Trump (audio clip)

There's no way out of this.

Dom (co-host)

No way.

We're trapped in our own country, and the big orange blob is hanging out in the White House.

Uncle Gordy (host)

722.

We have cloudy skies this morning.

We'll see sunshine along the way.

Cool temperatures all day, mid-60s this afternoon, right now 54 degrees.

Brittany Merleau is on vacation.

I'm going to step in here and it's time for Uncle Gordy's Weather Trivia.

Oh, this is

Dom (co-host)

a good place.

Hit

Uncle Gordy (host)

the thing.

Yes.

Every

Dom (co-host)

day.

Ready for this?

Uncle Gordy (host)

Yeah.

All right, John.

Wow.

Dom, here's the question.

Here's the trivia question

Dom (co-host)

for today.

From the former weatherman.

That's

Uncle Gordy (host)

right.

Twenty years in the weather business.

And this is what I came up with for today.

Trivia.

At any given time,

Any moment in time, how many storms are in progress on the planet Earth?

Is it 1800, 18,000, or 180,000?

Any moment in time, how many thunderstorms are happening

Dom (co-host)

right now?

180,000 before I forget.

I'm just gonna say that before I forget the options.

Tom (co-host)

I'm thinking 18, right?

Is that

Dom (co-host)

what that was?

1800?

1800,

Tom (co-host)

yeah.

18,000.

18,000.

18,000.

That's your answer.

That's my answer.

Dom (co-host)

What was your answer?

180,000.

Tom (co-host)

In any moment in

Dom (co-host)

time.

I'm Mr. Doom and Gloom.

180,000 storms going on all at

Uncle Gordy (host)

once.

The answer is 1800 storms are in

Dom (co-host)

progress right now

Uncle Gordy (host)

across the planet Earth.

Dom (co-host)

So you

Uncle Gordy (host)

got it right, Tom.

Tom (co-host)

Yeah.

Okay.

I said 18,000.

Oh, well, then you got it wrong.

Okay.

Okay.

Dom (co-host)

Just 1800.

Uncle Gordy (host)

Yeah.

And every year, get this, throughout the world, every year, 16 million.

I don't know if that adds up.

16 million?

16 million.

I don't think that adds

Donald Trump (audio clip)

up.

The

Uncle Gordy (host)

whole year.

Well, if you, if 1800, at any moment in time, so you've got to translate it.

Okay.

Donald Trump (audio clip)

Wow.

Uncle Gordy (host)

That's our weather trivia question for today.

Let's not look too deeply.

All right 725 coming up in about 10 minutes here.

We're gonna talk to Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spa Stopping by

Dom (co-host)

that's right.

You're taking the calls, right?

Dom all the the list of monuments commemorating Antifa You're making a list, right?

I really don't have too many but we want to go after

Uncle Gordy (host)

Let me see that mouse, by the way.

You got the mouse?

Dom (co-host)

Trying to scroll up a little bit there.

Uncle Gordy (host)

We need a system where we can both get to the scrolling device here so we can check out the messages.

I never mind.

Dom (co-host)

Where are we going to get seafood after Trump kills all the fishermen?

Uncle Gordy (host)

It's from Doug in St.

Francis.

Dom (co-host)

Thank you for that.

And

Uncle Gordy (host)

maybe.

Maybe they aren't alien, but at Lantan Atlantean.

Dom (co-host)

Yeah.

Yeah, the aliens might be at Lantan.

Maybe they're

Uncle Gordy (host)

just living

Dom (co-host)

under there and they've always been there.

That's right.

Okay.

Prince Namer.

If they're... Never mind.

Tim, if they're so worried about murders in big cities, why not fund more police instead of sending in the military?

Which is something we've been complaining about on the show for what?

three decades now, right?

Donald Trump (audio clip)

We've been talking

Dom (co-host)

about it.

Yes,

Donald Trump (audio clip)

I had

Dom (co-host)

no idea.

All right.

And she said, Drumpf was offering help to cities.

Ah, he is doing.

He's doing it at gunpoint.

That's right.

All right.

Now, let's, you know, speaking of that, Trump is okay with using the Insurrection Act, and this is cut 73, which is kind of a shocking thing, and it sounds kind of flippant, so I think he wants to do this, and there's a reason why they're talking about insurrection all the time.

Everything they talk about is insurrection.

Not protests, insurrection, which is the wrong word.

Anyway, let's listen to what Trump had to say.

Donald Trump (audio clip)

Well, I'd do it if it was necessary.

So far it hasn't been necessary, but we have an insurrection act for a reason.

If I had to enact it, I'd do that.

If people were being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up, sure, I'd do that.

I mean, I want to make sure that people aren't killed.

We have to make sure that our cities are safe.

Dom (co-host)

All right, see we have to make

Donald Trump (audio clip)

sure we have to and I think

Dom (co-host)

they're I think he's working up to it.

I

Donald Trump (audio clip)

think so

Dom (co-host)

all the cities

Donald Trump (audio clip)

all the liberal areas

Dom (co-host)

Yeah, and and Steve Steven Miller.

That's something on this.

Let's listen to this is Scott 75 again Stephen Miller wrapping it all up talking about insurrections and court judges.

Let's listen

Stephen Miller (audio clip)

No, it's simply a factually accurate statement that when a judge

assumes for him or herself the powers that have been relegated or delegated by the Constitution to the President that that is a form of a legal insurrection.

And we have seen...

Tom (co-host)

No,

Stephen Miller (audio clip)

we have seen over the last nine months a ongoing legal insurrection.

in which district court judges, as they class in many cases, have issued, which might have been overturned so much, have issued rulings that are flagrantly unlawful and unconstitutional.

And it is an insurrection against the laws and constitution of the United States.

And we need to have district courts in this country that see themselves as being under the laws and constitution and not being able to take for themselves powers that are reserved solely for the president.

One more

Dom (co-host)

question.

he's actually referring to the Supreme Court decision where they actually came out and said that these judges are acting like executives taking some of the executive power away from the president, which is just a weird way of describing anything.

I can't believe the Supreme Court justices are judges and they're coming out against all the other judges in the country.

Every one of them in the country they're going after.

Now a judge had blocked the Trump administration and

Tim Miller was Stephen Miller rather was talking about that and and this is in Miller's response to this judge's decisions was claiming that judiciary is shielding terrorism and that it he should be dismantled this should be dismantled the judicial system really I'm not getting okay and the next day the judge that put this block on the Trump administration her home blew up

Uncle Gordy (host)

In

Dom (co-host)

a fiery blaze.

Oh,

Uncle Gordy (host)

yeah, that was unbelievable.

Yeah, there's video on that.

Dom (co-host)

Yeah,

Uncle Gordy (host)

that's huge.

Amazing, right?

Yeah.

What a fire.

I mean, it was

Dom (co-host)

engulfed.

So they're attacking judges now, perhaps.

We don't know.

It might have been a gas leak, but we'll find out.

Uncle Gordy (host)

And the judge's husband broke both of his legs jumping out the window.

That's right.

Yes.

OK, coming back with Liz Johnson from Serenity Pet Spa.

Next.

John

WMDX 92.7.

It's

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gone and Gordy in the morning.

It is 735.

We've got cloudy skies downtown over State Street and we'll see the clouds breaking up for sunshine highs today, getting into the mid sixties right now.

54 degrees tomorrow on the show.

Mike McCabe will join us.

I'm going to be gone for a day or two tomorrow.

John

That's right.

Gone

You're

John

not going to be

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here.

That's.

That's why

John

I said I'm going

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to be gone because I'm not going

John

to be here for letting me know right in the

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spot.

No, no need to worry, John.

Matt Roth's child

John

will be filling

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in tomorrow.

And then Catherine will be filling in on Thursday.

So everything's all set.

John

We got a text here.

Stephen Miller reminds me of Barney Fife.

Yeah, stupid, but just enough to be dangerous.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Absolutely true.

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Yes.

John

All

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right.

Very good.

And

And

John

since Antifa is simply an acronym for anti-fascists and their troops in World War II, we're fighting the fascists by definition, anti-fascists.

The Republicans proposing to tear down monuments honoring World War II heroes.

There you go.

Wow, it's taking it one step further,

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Mark.

Thank you.

You can send us a text.

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Text us or call us 608-879-8255.

It is 736 and it's time for us to welcome in Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spas.

Good morning, Liz.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Good morning guys.

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Good to have you with us.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Good to be

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here.

Yes.

And Serenity Pet Spas with three locations around Madison.

They are internationally award-winning grooming salon.

And what's on your mind this

John

time of year for pets?

What kind of surprise have

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you seen so

John

far?

We've

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been talking about, John's pets are all, they're shedding their

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

fur.

Are they fur?

Yes, they're doing that.

We talked a little bit about this last time.

Yeah, they're doing that shed, getting ready for the winter coat, for sure.

Now it's really kicking in.

Is there anything you can offer for suggestions?

Well, I feel like all the dogs are confused this year because it was like 80 degrees last week.

Gordy

So

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

nobody really knows what's happening.

The top's still off my jeep.

I don't know where we

John

are.

the double shedding season

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

here.

It might be a little bit of a weird season, yeah.

But I feel like this spring was kind of the same way.

Like I couldn't decide when it wanted to get warm or cold or what was going on.

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Is there

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

anything you could

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do or should do for your pet to make them more comfortable or just let it happen and

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

brush them off

Gone

every day?

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yeah, I mean, and I wouldn't necessarily even brush every day.

Really just getting a consistent schedule of getting it all out in a bath, like, you know, about once a month, once every six weeks, something like that.

Well,

John

yeah, we're losing some of that warm weather.

here so

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

if

John

you're doing it outside you know with a hose that's that's something you could certainly try but

Gordy

yeah

John

I got a question for you we want to brush our pat our border collie and she's not really you know a fan of being brushed I bought a brush with the little nubs on the end of it

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

oh yeah one of

John

those now let me just describe it it's just like the it's just like the the short

Brush with the sharp pin like needles on it.

It's but they don't have pin like needles on

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

it

John

You just have

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

a little

John

nubs on it.

Is that effective?

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

No So the issue the issue is so they started putting those pins on it

rather than just selling a higher quality brush.

So your higher quality brushes, when you touch the end of the pins that are quote unquote sharp, they don't scrape.

Like you can brush your own hand with them.

So like we sell some in

Gordy

our

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

salon that's like, you can brush your own hand with it and it doesn't hurt.

So it was like they solved the cheap like rugged, you know, jagged pin problem that was cutting dogs by putting a ball on it instead of just getting a polished end.

and a softer brush pad.

So, but yeah, the pin, like those balls on the end, it just makes it so that the pins can't get through to the base of the coat as well.

So you're just, no.

John

You're being treated by

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

the

John

technology.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

My favorites are the ones with like the that on one side that look like a human hairbrush and like the bristle on the other side.

I hate those.

John

I

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

hate those brushes.

They're completely useless.

I have no idea why

John

they're so.

I know, I feel the same exact way.

But here's the thing, you know, with those kinds of brush.

you mentioned the pin-like brushes, but they polish the ends on it, so they don't scratch.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yeah, the higher quality ones are not as scratchy.

They're more of a polished end, so they're not breaking and damaging coat and skin.

And then they also, they're just a little softer pad.

So

Gordy

the

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

padding has more flexibility that it's actually on, and so it's softer when you're brushing the dogs.

So a higher quality is like, yeah, you're gonna spend a little more on a brush, but it's also gonna last you longer.

Those cheap brushes at the common pet store, they...

die within like a couple uses.

So these ones are made for groomers.

So they're used to getting a beating.

So they're, they're used to brushing, you know, 15 some odd dogs a day.

So they'll, they'll last you years at home.

So

John

yeah.

Does that help you at all?

Having, you know, the owners of these pets brushing their dogs on a regular basis.

And then when they take them into your spa, that it's easier to maybe, you know, clean them up, you know, get them ready for winter.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yes and no, it kind of depends if they're good at the brushing.

and it's also, it's a reason why we require rotation, because it's like once you get past that like two months without a bath,

Gordy

it

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

doesn't matter how much brushing you're doing at home, that dog is dirty, it's full of dandered, the coat isn't coming out anymore, and it just, it needs to get in to get a good bath.

John

You've scared me right there.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Sorry.

I

Gone

am so, my dog is so bad, oh man.

Now I know you have a lot of regular customers that you've had for years probably.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yes, oh I was just looking at one the other day and I was like, wait, how old are you?

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I've

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

been doing this to you since you were a puppy.

I think she's like 10.

And I was like, how'd you get so old, little girl?

You know, really attached to him.

So

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what do you recommend as far as how often people should bring in their dogs for

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

grooming?

Most dogs every four to six weeks.

Yeah, at least for like a bath, nail trims, those nails grow fast.

There's some people that go the eight weeks and for a lot of dogs, it's fine for if they're like a short haircut or a short hair dog.

But I find just to keep the nails done, the ears clean.

a check like overall their spot check on health because we can see lumps and bumps and things that you can't find.

It's just some of our best are just they come in like regularly in a perfect world.

Everyone just comes and visits me once a month on a rotating schedule and everything's easy and the dogs are always clean and the owners never have to brush them at home at all.

That's my perfect world.

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As far as temperament

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

of

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dogs, which are the easiest ones and which are the more difficult ones?

I

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

don't want to

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generalize.

But really

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

the ones that come in everything the more often they come the more used to it They're thinking like you know think of like your toddler going to a new environment versus somewhere that they see every week They see their same friends.

They know the people so they're better behaved because they understand what's happening So so yeah, but no, it's not really it's not really dog.

There's not like a certain breed.

That's good.

Okay

other, there really isn't.

It's just, it's, are they on a consistent schedule?

Are they a well mannered dog?

Are they a well bred dog?

So they have a good kind of mental head on their shoulders, raised well as a puppy, started grooming as a puppy.

So they're used to the process.

Those are going to be the best.

Is

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there a certain type of dog that isn't, that doesn't shed that much, but still it's not a super short hair.

Is there something sort of in between that you

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

can get?

I mean, you have your like low shedding dogs, any of your, um, the poodles, obviously, uh, Legos.

are great, Portuguese water dogs are great, Spanish water dogs, Otterhounds, there's a lot of purebred, low shedding or no shedding dogs out there other than getting a doodle that can have a lot of health issues.

I'm gonna make a lot of enemies with that phrase.

They

Gordy

are wonderful dogs, but they

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

are not free of health

John

issues.

I'm looking for a dog.

He's looking for a dog, but one that he doesn't have to take care of at all.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Oh, yeah.

No, just get like a really, really short, short, short-haired dog.

Yeah, because that's the thing, the trade-off.

You don't want shedding.

You're going to have a lot of hair to cut off.

If it doesn't fall out, it's going to keep growing.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

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Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

shed.

Poodles

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don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

Poodles don't shed.

P

You have

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

two?

I have 15 dogs.

John

Okay, whoa.

How do you leave the house?

15 dogs?

How do you ever

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leave

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

the house with 15 dogs?

Well, they're great.

We have acreage, and we run around, and we do the things, and we have, yeah, it's fine.

Luckily, I don't have grooming salon, because grooming would get really expensive.

John

Yeah, okay.

I would.

Wow.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yeah.

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All right, Serenity Pet Spa, 15 dogs.

It's

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

fine.

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All kinds of breeds.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Because I have my grooming competition dogs.

Because of how many competitions I go to, and they are a year, I have two for each class that I compete in.

Gordy

So

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

that's six dogs right there.

And

Gordy

then I

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

breed collies.

So I have my collies that I breed and show and I have like seven, seven of those.

So between retirement age down to like three months old.

You have

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kennels for all these dogs.

They all sleep.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yeah, we have like kennel runs.

We have like, I have 12 foot runs and they pretty much are in there, you know, during the day and then they run on a big acreage.

all day when I'm home and

John

do you understand the psychology of Border Collies

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

at all?

Yeah, yeah John

John

needs to have

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

a conference with you.

You would never own one.

They're too smart.

It's dangerous.

Smart dogs are dangerous.

I like my regular colleagues that are kind of pretty and dumb.

Like they're just like sweet and happy to be

Gordy

with you and do whatever you

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

want.

Those like smart dogs are like, you're stupid.

Gordy

They

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

look at you like you're dumb.

My poodle does that sometimes.

Poodles are like as smart as I want to get.

The first one owned me because I wasn't prepared.

Now I'm a little more prepared.

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Okay.

Serenity Pet Spa, three locations.

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Yes.

So we have East Park.

That's our east side off American Parkway.

We have our original store, Nodana Road.

And then we have our new location.

We call it Middleton.

It is far west.

It's on a junction road.

So.

Okay.

You're out at the far west.

Yes.

I'm nowhere.

I don't, I don't think this.

But

Gordy

no, I was

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

saying like, um, holidays are, we are only like seven weeks from Thanksgiving.

Um, if you don't have a holiday appointment for your dog, you better be calling your rumor because it's getting real scary.

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Okay.

And

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

you can

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go to Serenity Pets, um, Madison.

Yeah,

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

Serenity Pet Spa Madison.

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There we go.

SerenityPetSpaMadison.com.

John

Well, I

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

was going to

John

challenge you to taking my border collie in because I'm really afraid I'm

Liz Johnston (Serenity Pet Spas)

scared.

Keep saying.

I am.

I

John

am a scared and this would be a test.

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OK.

All right, always good to see you, Liz.

See

John

you next

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time we're out.

That's Liz Johnson from Serenity Pet Spots.

OK, thank you, Liz.

It is 746.

And again, phone lines are open, 608-879-8255.

All right.

Well,

John

let's get to something kind of fun.

I don't know, there is a debate going on.

The guy is, he's a podcaster, Parker get a job.

You can tell that his parents were telling him to do something other than just talking on the internet.

Parker get a job, but he's a lefty and he talks to righties all the time.

And I just thought this conversation is so frustrating and so ridiculous that you just have to listen to it.

Okay.

All right, so let's put it on.

And he supports science, by the way.

Parker (Podcaster)

He doesn't.

He said the climate was going to start cooling in science just doesn't know it yet.

He said that windmills are causing whales to die and numbers never seen before.

He said that Tylenol usage during pregnancy causes autism, which there's no evidence indicating any of those things.

Right-Winger Guest

That's a health issue that has nothing to do with science.

Parker (Podcaster)

That does have to do with science.

What is science?

Right-Winger Guest

Health and science is not the same thing.

What is good for your health is not the same as science.

Parker (Podcaster)

He was denying the science about what

is healthy for Americans.

So, yes, when I was talking about his scans on health, it was related to him denying science.

I do have to clarify that first.

Right-Winger Guest

None of that stuff.

None of that stuff is correlating to science.

It's just an opinion.

It's just an opinion.

It's not a health issue.

You said something about Tylenol, and then you said something about windmills.

What does that have to do with science?

What is science to you?

Are there scientific studies on health outcomes?

Health outcomes rely on studies for medication, what is causing something, and what is going to be

Helpful for someone that has nothing to do with windmills or what the reason why we need for climate change that has Climate change any none that hasn't anything to do with science that has something to do with climate Yeah, climate science

Parker (Podcaster)

climate science has

Right-Winger Guest

nothing to do with science.

I totally agree Climate science.

So so now we're changing the subject again So we was talking about climate change or climate windmills or whatever it was and now we're talking about climate science Okay, so yeah, the climate is has something to do with the weather.

It has something to do with it

Uh, and the seasons and things of things about climate is not science.

So again, we just want to add, we just want to know if you even know what science is.

Parker (Podcaster)

I do.

Right-Winger Guest

Okay.

So

Parker (Podcaster)

we use.

That's

John

Parker again, trying to tell a guy that there is science involved in just about everything we have medicine, climate, whatever.

We'll come back and wrap things up after this.

Co-host

Bright sunflowers lighten up the day And they bring such happiness while we stay

Host

Towing past such wondrous sight Won't you take my hand and we can share the life of the sun

Co-host

For hours, hours, hours Oh yeah, that's what we're talking about.

Positive.

Positive.

Music

Host

carries me close out the program.

Right.

752 and stuffy Miller is coming up next.

Let's get to a few text here.

We've got your

Co-host

neighbors who wanted

Host

to chime

Co-host

in.

Yeah.

Know that Stephen Goebbels Miller.

Yeah.

Host

Of course,

Co-host

it's starting to shift all over the place here was still riding the school bus at 17.

Oh, so who rides the bus?

They're senior year.

No friends, maybe?

Creep, even Miller.

Yeah, I did not know that.

Okay.

And of course, that last cut that you heard, Matt chimed in and said, haha, science is an opinion, sums up the mega nicely.

I know it is incredible.

What a frustrating interview that must have been.

All right, so let's get to, let's get to Cat Abu.

And she

Host

is an

Co-host

Illinois congressional candidate and married to onion CEO Ben Collins.

Host

All right.

Co-host

And she talked to Jen Psaki the other night about the violence and brutality of ICE at their facility in Chicago.

I want to get the sun right away because it's a couple of days old.

So its freshness date is is arrived.

News Correspondent

This

Co-host

is what Gen Z.

is all about.

And I tell you, just listening to her is very energizing for me.

Let's listen.

News Correspondent

Chicago has long been one of Donald Trump's favorite targets.

At this point, it is frankly difficult to keep track of all of the ways he is trying to intimidate that city.

I mean, just today, the Trump administration announced that it plans to claw back $2.1 billion in federal funding for Chicago's desperately needed

infrastructure projects.

In the early morning hours on Tuesday, agents repelled from Blackhawk helicopters and reportedly broke down people's doors, pulling men, women, and children, some of whom were naked, out of their apartments, separating families.

Those families' belongings, everything from shoes to toys to food, were ransacked and thrown into piles in the building's hallway.

Democratic Congressional candidate Kato Gazzale has been taking part in those protests and was thrown to the ground by ICE agents herself.

You can see it right on the video there.

Earlier today, she spoke at a press conference outside of the Broadview facility.

Can you just describe how the situation there has escalated over the past couple of weeks?

Kato Gazzale

This facility is where anyone that is abducted in the Chicago area probably ends up.

They're held in inhumane conditions.

Every single week we have seen one-sided escalation from ice.

We come with songs and chants and signs.

They come with tear gas and pepper bullets and flashbangs.

They have started abducting the facility.

They have st for doing their job.

I h press multiple times.

families that are trying to their loved ones to leave pepper balls.

They have tr

This is a war zone, except it's a one-sided war.

It is ICE agents in masks.

We don't know who these men are.

We don't know what they're allowed to do.

We don't even know what agency many of them work for.

And they are just allowed to brutalize anyone that they want.

All the things I just described don't compare to what is actually happening in that facility.

Yeah, I think Christine Ohm should have consequences.

I think she should be tried at the Hague.

What we are seeing from her operation are crimes against humanity.

They should

What I really want to stress to people is that none of this is normal.

It is not normal to have masked men repelled down from helicopters into apartment buildings to arrest families in the middle of the night.

That is not normal.

Today we were corralled into a free speech zone and I'm not a big fan of that term because it implies there are areas in the US that are non free speech zones, mainly everywhere else.

It is ISIS responsibility.

to respect and uphold our rights.

It is not on us to accommodate them.

And it is not on us to accommodate Kristi Noem's racist fascist agenda.

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Canada because I'll never hold back.

I really appreciate you taking the time tonight and speaking out so forcefully about such an important

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issue.

That is really good stuff.

It was on Jen Psaki show on MSNBC.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah,

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and that's Gen Z energized as hell and more power to him.

It's not going well in Chicago.

And yeah,

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it's continuing

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trucks through crowds.

And the thing is, you know, when when we see the conflicts on the street between the protesters and ICE agents or

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the

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National Guard, it's really it's really not the protesters who are causing this.

They're not attacking.

these individuals it's the guard and it is the ICE agents who are trying to push these people around and when you push people around they have a tendency to maybe just push back a little

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bit or whatever

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and then suddenly if somebody does fall or something like that then the agents swarm around them and arrest them and that's

That's my observation.

That's where I see all of this.

The conflict is really caused by the government and the ICE agents and the National Guard because they're just pushing people back.

And sometimes they fall.

Sometimes they are not being able to be pushed back because there are people behind them.

And it just gets to be a scuffle, a mess, and then people get arrested falsely.

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Pepper spray

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and

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rubber bullets.

And then, of

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course,

the attempt by the administration now to portray everything as Antifa.

And again, we're looking for the Antifa statues and monuments around the nation that were put up in the last two centuries.

Don (caller from near Chicago)

Don, what'd you have to say?

I gotta say, I'm just as nervous.

I live really close to Chicago, and I don't even want to go to that city now because of this stuff.

And it's scary to me.

I'm sure it's scary to everyone, but whenever I have to go home, it's scary.

That's right.

That's right.

It goes.

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And I just want to say to Troy, you know, we can't pull this thing up on our computer in front of us.

We really are curious.

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We're going to click on that.

We're going to find out what that is.

We

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will look into that and probably talk about it tomorrow.

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I'd appreciate it.

That's going to do it for us for today.

Mike McCabe will join us tomorrow.

I'm going to be off Matt Rothschild.

We'll be sitting in and I'll be back on Friday.

Catherine's going to be here on Thursday.

Filling in well watch

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the sparks fly Because we have Mike McCabe who used to be head of the democracy camp right Wisconsin democracy campaign and Rothschild used to be as well Yeah,

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so we'll see if they agree in anything.

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You'll have some fun.

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All right, Stephanie Miller's next so long

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