From Space Car Gripes to Harvard Trade Schools (Hour 1)

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From Space Car Gripes to Harvard Trade Schools (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Thu Oct 2, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John and Gordy in the morning.

This is WM DX back again They have not hauled us away to a FEMA camp or at least some you know toxic environment We're still here.

Yeah, I'm surprised that we weren't met at the door We could have been hauled away instantly well never seen again

Well, good

morning

to

you too.

Well, you know, I'm just really you're

just waiting for that.

Yeah, I'm waiting for that to happen.

Yes.

Okay.

You don't think it's going to happen to you?

We're pretty cavalier on this program.

You want to rate it in a little bit?

Yeah, I think we should damp it down.

I think we should limit what we're saying.

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I think we

should definitely soften it.

We don't want to give anybody an idea that they can go out there and start shooting people.

We don't want to give that impression.

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Enjoying the pool?

They have rec centers up on the roofs of a lot of these buildings.

But we don't want to stop you from doing that.

Okay.

Happy Thursday to you.

Second day of October.

Yes.

Yeah.

It's cool out there this morning.

54

degrees.

We're going to make it to the end of October.

Is this.

Can we actually call this the United States after maybe, you know,

well, hopefully make it through the few more weeks.

Yeah.

Because the end of October is our, it'll be our two year anniversary here at Civic Media,

October 30th.

The administration is taking aim at that.

Now I know.

You know what they're leading up to.

John and Gordy have never had that opportunity before and they're going to steal it away from us.

That's John Peterson talking there.

I'm Gordy Young and Dominic Lee is in the producer box.

Good morning, Tom.

How are you?

Good morning.

What a crazy start, John.

I was not expecting you to go all out like that.

No, I wasn't either.

Shooting from the hip

again.

Yeah, shooting

from

the

hip.

I'm doing

good though.

Thank

you for asking.

Yeah, you're doing all right.

Should do any line dancing last night?

No, you're gonna ask that every single day.

He says he's giving it up.

I swear

I am.

For a

week.

Yeah, no one takes picture of me out in the wild, me doing it.

He can talk big while his girlfriend is out of town.

Yeah, sure.

But once she gets back, it's line dancing all over again.

I'm

nervous.

A little bit later on, we're going to talk to Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils.

He'll be joining us.

A fully-ledded education talk.

And Jim Santel, attorney at law.

Yeah.

We'll talk about the legalities of whatever's going on today and yesterday in Trump world.

It's insane, it really is.

Some guy was in this country for like 20 years, here legally, by the way, and he's been held for a long period of time.

Can't remember how many 100 days solitary confinement now they're going to ship them out He's done nothing wrong.

He's been here legally again and they decided he runs a small news service and he was reporting on immigration and and the tactics being used and they decided to silence them and Hold them up and then now ship them out for no reason.

Where was he working?

I believe in Florida, but I didn't mention that because I'm not really sure.

So that's happening and that is a horrific example of what's going on in this country and I guess the attempts to silence the media.

If you want to check out our WMDX website, we've got our poll question up.

Yes, we do.

Do you know what our poll question is?

No, I was going to try and change it because I think it's time that we ask the question, you know, do you believe that it is right for the military to take practice lessons in our cities?

Practice drills.

So yeah, I'm just, I haven't exactly formulated the question yet, but once we get that up.

I'd love to hear from you.

Okay.

Well, the current question is,

what's the most Madison thing to overhear at a coffee shop?

So hard hitting question.

Well, this one is, um, is it the, uh, is the, uh, is this Cambucha locally sourced has 15%.

Uh, my band is playing at the frequency.

Oh, wait, that's also at 15%.

I'm training for my fifth Iron Man.

That's at 38%, surprisingly.

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That's at 31%.

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I have a big complaint again.

What?

You're complaining about something?

I'm just stacking them up this morning.

And you can blame Elon for this.

This was a big innovation.

Man is a genius.

What did he do?

Well, he wanted to hide the door handles on his cars.

You know where I'm going with it.

They're well hidden.

Like this morning, I went out to my car.

It's dark out there.

I don't know why the light wasn't shining in the parking area, but it wasn't.

jabbing the door with my hand, trying to find the door handle, because you have to push one side of the handle in in order to the other side to spring out.

Oh, God.

I am not a big fan of these door handles at all.

You

don't like the space car door

handles?

They're awful.

And, you know, they came up with this idea for Tesla.

And they did it because it cuts down on the friction.

as you drive.

Oh, sure.

It causes too much friction.

I'm sure that's a big factor.

It's a huge factor when we're driving to work.

Those door handles stick out a little bit.

That really slows you down a lot.

I know.

I keep thinking about that, you know.

So it really doesn't make any sense in the practical world at all.

And in the practical world, it's tough to push the damn door handle in.

Sometimes you push it in, you don't realize the car is locked, and then you have to push it in on the other side, which detects the fob in your pocket, and then it allows the door handle to open.

Yeah, I'm just done with this.

I'm done with this.

And you know what?

I am not the only one, and this is the point of what I'm talking about here.

China has these fantastic EVs.

They have decided to abandon these ridiculous flush-mount door

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handles that you have to push

in and out.

And they thought it's ridiculous to think how much surface area you're saving from friction.

Also can't comprehend what the point is so they're getting rid of it.

Yes, please Oh my god, you know now.

Well, I've got the car now and there's nothing I can do I never

realized door handles were that big of a

deal

for people that

they aren't and I remember when we went to the brewers game you you drove me I tried to open the door and I couldn't figure it out It took me like two attempts.

Yeah, I just I

gave up

And we went to a movie the other day.

My wife and my older son, one son didn't go, but so we get out of the car and we're walking to the theater and then we notice that Cole is not there.

He's the 26 year old.

He looked back.

He left him in the car?

And we're standing there waiting for him.

I wonder what the hell, because he does this.

He really does.

Stuff like this, you know, what is he doing?

You know, we're standing and standing there and it's uh, and it's the child block.

He couldn't get out.

The child block was on.

So I don't know how.

I don't know where the child block is.

I didn't know it was on and he couldn't get out of the car.

That's sad.

Yeah, yeah, that's that's weird.

So you went back and got him

or

just leave him in there?

Yes, I actually thought, well, this is crazy.

I went up there and I opened the door very easily.

No problem.

But he can't open the door.

Wow.

And he's angry.

He was really, don't you don't don't you know, you know, it's a lot.

No, I have no idea.

I didn't even know where the child lock is, you know.

So anyway, that's

that space cars really got the space.

I

mean, they really worked out all the bugs on the

thing, huh?

It's been a while since I've been able to charge the car at my house.

In fact, it's never been able to charge at my house.

I thought

you had the charger all set

up.

Ready to go.

It's coming.

Actually, in the 14th of this month, the electrician is going to install my at-home charger, where I'm saving a ton of money.

It's $2,000 to install the damn charger at the house.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's a little pricey.

Yeah.

$600 for the device itself.

So I'm saving money.

Hand over fist.

So I don't have to buy gasoline anymore.

That's great.

Oh,

good.

Well, thanks for the update.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anytime.

How the windshield wipers are they working?

Okay.

No, they're working fine.

Okay.

They sense the rain.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah.

How do they do in snow?

Do they sense the snow?

I don't know

what's going to happen with that.

Okay.

By the way,

it'll probably prevent the door handles from moving.

Maybe.

Um, do you watch the Cubs game yesterday or is your wife watching Cubs?

Okay.

Cubs and the Padres, they're all tied up at one game apiece in the wild card to

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play off there at

Wrigley.

Geez.

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So last game.

Yeah.

This deciding game is this afternoon, later this afternoon.

Oh, really?

And this will decide who moves on,

who moves on to take on the Brewers Saturday.

So what is what is a wild card round?

What does that even mean?

Oh gosh, I don't know There's they're

okay.

Well is your teams on on the bubble?

Yes.

And they get to play each other.

And then the one that wins moves on into the playoffs and

that's happening

in

the National

League and

in

the American League.

Even I know that.

And I don't know anything about

sports.

Yeah.

It's not a big fan of baseball.

So

today will be the deciding game between the Cubs and the Padres to

take on the Brewers.

Whoever wins today.

I got my fingers crossed the Cubs win.

Yeah.

Because it's going to be a piece around my house.

Yeah.

Wow.

All right.

Oh good.

That's a little update on.

on the Cubs and

the Brewers.

That's what happens,

right?

Oh

yeah.

I think it'd be great if the Cubs win, then it'll be the Cubs taking on the Brewers

in

Milwaukee on Saturday.

Unbelievable.

Starting

with

the playoffs

there.

Imagine that.

Yeah.

It's 18 minutes past the hour Tim Slecker will be joining us in about 15 minutes

Yeah,

and of course in our seven o'clock hour will fire up the go for the green and gold text-to-win contest Got that happening

today

and tomorrow is the last day.

Yeah, so you know just a few moments We're gonna get into you know this thing about health care, you know health care for illegal immigrants JD Vance came out and kind of

got into the details a little bit more about that.

There aren't a lot of illegal immigrants getting health care.

In fact, none.

But there are reasons why some who are legal immigrants are getting some health care.

But that's a very, very small percentage.

And they're throwing the baby out with a bathwater.

That's what they're basically doing.

Just to get these, the small percentage, they want to throw it all out for

everybody.

We'll get started with that in just a moment.

It is coming up on 20 minutes past the hour.

We're just getting going on this Thursday morning.

It's John Peterson, Gordy Young and Dominic Lee coming right back.

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Mostly sunny skies, highs and low 80s.

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John, do you have your WMDX Samsung watch fired up yet?

I do.

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Yeah, sunrise 656.

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Just in case.

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Write that down.

You want to start that evening party outside.

OK.

Good

enough.

Set off the fireworks that you didn't.

Set off during July 4th because you were depressed about current administration

People so set off fireworks.

I mean, it's pretty much a year-round thing.

It is you never know where kids Yeah,

they find them and they

yeah, you

know, they want to shoot them off

mark

Texted and he said in the words of Alfred E Newman.

Yeah, what me worry Trump is probably pissed over these stuff.

He said years ago.

Maybe that's that's why he's acting like Donald one channeling George the third

Yeah, Trump said years ago that any president that couldn't you know avoid a shutdown when you know That's on him.

Yeah, that every president

should be able

to figure that out

That's coming back to haunt

it really is you know everything was so perfect You know if he were present it would be perfect, but he's proving to be an absolute incompetent.

He hasn't been able to end the wars And he's found out that

Putin doesn't agree with him on a lot of things.

We kind of knew that, you know, as everyday citizens out here walking around the sidewalks of our great cities.

We knew that for some reason, but he didn't know.

Well, what can you do?

All right, let's get to J.D.

Vance kind of clearing things up about their objection.

to giving health care to illegal immigrants.

Now they're not getting health care, okay?

They're legal and they get a small percentage of the health care benefits that Americans do, but it's a very, very small percentage.

I want you to listen to the very first thing he mentions as an outrage.

We shouldn't be giving these illegal immigrants, well, you won't believe what he's

about

to say.

Check

it out.

This is a Democrat talking point.

They say we're not actually trying to give health care benefits to illegal aliens.

And here's why it's not true.

There are two Biden era programs that explicitly gave the taxpayer health care money to illegal aliens that we turned off when President Trump took over in January.

My hero number one is there's a lot of emergency health care at hospitals that are provided to illegal aliens.

That was funded by the federal government.

We turned off that funding because of course we want America.

and citizens to benefit from those hospital services, not to be taxed, and then to have those hospital services go to illegal aliens.

OK.

Sorry.

So if an illegal alien is in a traffic accident and a serious one, they're battling injuries.

They're bleeding.

Yes.

They can't go to the emergency room and no one can treat them.

Yeah.

You know, for some reason, it just

Strikes me as something wrong.

Yeah, you know, I mean there's something horribly insensitive about that Yeah, I mean that's what they're there for that's the whole point we have emergency yes, and it doesn't matter who's Who's in in need of the emergency room you take care of them?

That's the whole point now if we're gonna turn people away who are seriously ill

or have been in an accident, that is just unconscionable.

I can't even wrap my head around that at all.

I really can't.

So that's his big complaint.

Wrong.

Let's check that one off.

Let's continue with

the cut.

The second of which is that the Biden administration gave mass parole to millions upon millions of illegal aliens, and then they simultaneously made those parolees eligible for health care benefits funded by taxpayers.

In the one big, beautiful bill, President Trump and Congressional Republicans

turned off that money to healthcare funding for illegal aliens, the Democrats want to turn it back on.

And in their initial proposal, the first thing that they put out to reopen the government, they actually turned that money for healthcare benefits for illegal aliens back on.

So it's not something that we made up.

It's not a talking

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point.

It is

in the text of the bill that they initially gave to us to reopen the government.

It's preposterous for them to run away from it now.

But look, let's set that all to the side.

Let's open up the government.

Let's negotiate.

on all these healthcare policies.

Let's just stop it.

I just want to get to the point here, undocumented immigrants, currently the law bars undocumented immigrants from receiving most healthcare benefits.

Only notable exceptions can go to the emergency room for treatment.

This is not healthcare coverage, but by the way, when they take care of these immigrants who are going to the emergency room, the hospitals are reimbursed by the

federal government, but it is not part of an insurance package.

They aren't insured.

It's not a right that they have.

They go there, the government reimburses the hospital.

It's a reimbursement, not an insurance coverage.

We got a text here that says there must be an ER doctor out there listening who would say no way they would turn anyone away.

They don't, but they can't.

Yeah.

The Hippocratic Oath.

Right.

Right.

So immigrants are lawfully present in this country, and they face a five-year waiting period for Medicaid and CHIP, which is gone now with the big bad bill.

So there are just little nuances about all of this.

Of course, you notice that JD Vance did not talk about the supplemental

Tax credits that are given on the ACA, which is the main major point for tens of thousands of Americans who are gonna lose their healthcare because they can't afford the monthly premium.

That's the point.

He didn't cover that.

Mm-hmm.

There you have it.

And he did that purposely.

Yeah.

It is 29 past the hour.

When we come back, we will talk to Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils.

It's all about education.

Next on John and

Gordy on WMDX.

WMDX 92.7, that's the new nickname for Trump on the show.

You'll blob, yes.

He's got to start working out, you know.

Pete Hankseth is on a roll here.

He wants everybody to be fit and trim and no beards, a whole shooting match.

Macho men, that's what he wants.

And Trump is, you know...

the commander in chief.

He's got a presidential

fitness thing.

You

don't

remember

the Kennedy years.

That's why I'm fit today.

Thanks to John F. Kennedy.

There you go.

All

right.

635.

And it's a cool start this morning.

54 degrees highs in the low 80s.

Time for us to welcome in Dr. Tim Sleckers.

We do every Thursday morning.

Tim, good to have you with us.

Yes.

Good.

Good morning.

Yeah, I just completed my 25.

sets of 25 push-ups.

Yeah, I'm

ready to go.

Here's going to

say, you look pumped this morning.

Yeah,

I forgot to shave my beard, though.

Oh, no.

I've been thinking really hard about making sure that I have the right mental attitude that, you know, now that we have a department of war, that means we... That's true.

You know,

well, you have to be very manly in the department for it's one of the requirements,

you know, none of this, um, you know,

men wearing dresses.

I think that's yeah, no, none of that

fuzzy stuff.

No, no, you

know,

looking back

here, I just just a note here.

The presidential physical fitness fitness test was actually started by Dwight Eisenhower.

Yeah.

Well, 1956 and then discontinued by Barack Obama in 2012 and then reinstated by Trump in 2017.

Yes, he brought it back.

Yeah, I mean, come on.

You

can't

you

can tell by looking at him.

I know.

I know.

Okay.

You know, when you consider golf a physical fitness thing, you got problems, man.

Look what it does to you.

This guy is blot moving around the grassy greens of his golf course.

Yikes.

Okay.

Well, hey, let's get to some educational stuff here.

And, uh, and I think this is a, uh, a case in point.

This is the best example we have of conservative education.

And that's, and it's in Florida.

Where else would it be?

We're talking about the new college that was taken over to the liberal arts college that was taken over by, uh, uh, uh, DeSantis and, uh, it's not going well.

So fill us in.

This is a great story.

You brought the store attention here.

Yeah, well, you know, we this has been going on for a while and I was saying before that, you know, remember Christopher Rufo?

You know, this was the the the guy I he's gone silent.

I don't know.

I guess maybe he's plotting his next takeover of something.

But he really led the charge on this because he had been putting out and saying like, hey, look, these colleges again, you know,

really indoctrinating students.

You know, there's woke policies.

There's no education happening.

And

well, he came out against he came out against CRT.

He was a big CRT.

He started the whole thing that doesn't even exist in K through 12.

Yeah.

And then he went on to the new school.

Well, and new and they, you know, so just to set this up.

New College is part of Florida's public higher education system like states have.

So like the University of Wisconsin system, schools, those are public higher education institutions.

And what does that mean?

Well, tax money goes to fund those schools.

And so they targeted New College because New College had its own kind of an identity.

It was a liberal arts

college.

And so, you know, there was a special school where students who went there really had a sense of, you know, more of studying the humanities, the arts, more of a trendier, progressive type of school.

They targeted that school as an identity, you know the school of you know incredible identity of woke indoctrination was occurring there in so many ways and so this Rufo using DeSantis They actually did a full takeover of the college Got rid of most of the administrators there and installed their own administrators Because this was going to be the shining example of what a

not a conservative bastion of intellectual freedom was going to look like and You know prior let's just set this up prior to the takeover Florida spends about because remember taxpayers help fund public higher education about $10,000 a student Well now that we're a year in new college

the state, the taxpayers of Florida are now funding $140,000 a student.

Wait, it

was, it was $10,000 per student a year and now it's 130, how much?

$140,000?

$134,000.

$134,000 per

student.

I think that's an increase.

That seems like it.

Inflation or what?

And

with that money, the graduation rate is declining, which is interesting.

conservatives have always been very much on the you can't fund away problems

that's right you know

like you know jeez these kids are failing they're not graduating um and all you democrats want is more money to fix the problem well um 134 000 a student

And the graduation rate is declining.

And maybe on top of that, more and more students are not choosing to go to the new college.

So enrollment is down.

I don't know.

Is this what you consider a success?

Well,

I wouldn't.

No, it seems like they got some big problems academically.

Well, I

mean, you know, they're not teaching wokeness anymore.

Well, I'm sure that the legislature in Florida is a little angry.

I mean, it's bending big bucks on this.

This is not a good thing for them, especially, you know, at that cost $134,000 per student.

Holy jeez.

and set that straight to what that that that's not the tuition that students are being asked to pay to go there right this is the funding support from the state of Florida tax you know taxpayer money to support the students and so the idea that that amount of money is being

Put forth and really what's happening is saying like we need this money to kind of Keep the support of the the college so that it keeps going now if you read this this is the potential We're talking about an article that was in on in inside higher education I'm kind of looking at this and going oh and so the solution now is to Take the college and make it private

Was that the plan all along?

Yeah was you know again to do away with public higher education You know did did we create a disaster so that we could now say look?

We're telling you public higher education doesn't work.

It needs to become private

Yeah, I'm reading here.

It says 20% of the ranking criteria according to them is

broadly suffering from negative reputation among their peers whose leaders take issue with the conservative agenda, the Santas has imposed on colleges and universities.

It says here, this guy has changed the ideology of higher education to say, we're teaching how to think, not what to think.

And we're being peer reviewed by people who think that's absolutely horrendous.

No, not us.

Wow.

It's, I mean, so this is, yeah, here's an example and going so, you know, I put this out to anybody, is this what you would like to see public higher education becoming with the government that entangled into the identities, the politics, the curriculum, because this is what you get.

And so,

Higher education is supposed to be in this form of what we say, you know independent academic freedom Because the pursuit the teaching the the the whole idea of becoming educated is supposed to be free from government intrusion Last I checked that was a very strong conservative principle Freedom from government

intrusion

Um, and it saves money, you know, without government requirements and things like that.

Well, that didn't work out either.

And then of course, you know, they're accusing DeSantis of the, of making this his own project and he's term limited.

So once he's gone, this is in the lap of the legislature at that point, paying these huge, huge tuitions.

Well, not tuitions, but costs per student,

right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Talking

with Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils, and we want to move on to another topic that you wanted to mention here, Tim.

I'm having fun talking about this failure by Ron

DeSantis.

Well, they're calling that a Ponzi scheme, almost.

I mean, they're

likening it to that.

now.

Are they?

Yes.

All right.

Hang on.

Let me go back here.

It's it's they're saying students keep leaving so they have to recruit bigger and bigger cohorts of students and then they say the biggest class ever because they had to backfill all the students who have left.

So yeah, that strategy is not really working.

No, it's not

working.

Yeah, they're they're spending a lot of money recruiting.

The other thing what what they really did was, you know, again, this was a private

or not private but but a liberal arts college you

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know a

more it's got a trendy type of focus and one of the other things they did is you know let's bring in you know a lot of men's athletics

Change the flavor of the

college.

Well, that costs a lot of money And and and it doesn't necessarily attract a lot of students because it's kind of like you want to come play football at new college But

the thing is they could have just started their own

College they didn't have to take over a college right take an existing one

well remember what what this was early on too was is that they were trying to say is that this was going to be the Hillsdale of the south

yes that's

right yes

you

know this was going to be the Hillsdale College of the south and You know I said maybe though that is the the intentions to take it private and then make it truly you know the Hillsdale of the south whatever that means

It's a mess.

To me, it really is.

This is truly, I believe, government intrusion in higher education should be, and going back to a very conservative principle, we should actually all be saying that actually was a pretty good idea to try to keep government intrusion

out of the process of what it means to be educating the public.

They're not giving up on meddling with private colleges either.

I believe that Trump is now requiring a lot of these private colleges to sign an agreement in order to get federal funding at this point.

They just sent this out as a new executive order.

Well, actually, there's the other story, and if you guys are following that, we've been talking about Harvard, right?

Harvard has been the, and so it looks like for Harvard potentially to get the money that they're saying, there is a deal brewing with another $500 million payout.

I know we're coming to commercial.

For what?

Well, maybe that's something

else

we should be talking

about.

We should be.

And we will continue that conversation with Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils.

It's John and Gordy after

this.

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We have Dr. Tim Slecker here from Busted Pencils, our guest each and every Thursday morning.

And we're talking funding, money, money, money.

And it, it talks.

Yeah.

So what's, what is going on with Harvard and their funding?

Well, so, so Harvard in to get their funding given back to them.

that, you know, all the federal funding and grants like that.

Trump is getting, you know, he's the deal maker and looks like they're very close to a deal with a $500 million Harvard will create trade schools.

Wow.

Yes.

Trade schools.

Yes.

And actually, so what to, you know, according to the president, and these are his quotes, he's like, I guess we reached a deal with Harvard today.

So we'll see what you have to do is paper it, right?

Linda and quote is what Trump said to Linda McMahon.

Paper.

Yeah, you got to pay for it.

And, you know, because they are again, quote.

close to finalizing it and It is what they would say the president is describing it as a series of trade schools that would be run by Harvard Wow,

so you'd have a Harvard education being a welder

Yeah,

well

carpenter.

Yeah, he he said

They'll be teaching people how to do AI and lots of other things engines lots of things

Lots of things

Yeah, that's

pretty broad

There's there's so much so you

know

Harvard is I yeah, you know, it's so I'm a

Harvard educated welder.

Or Carpenter.

You were talking off the air about being an Harvard educated

carpenter.

Yeah.

Just thinking about what this is going to do on the construction site.

So the tradespeople are going to be showing up in their Harvard sweatshirt.

kind of creating

all

this clicking that's

going to now

be happening.

It's like, there goes a Harvard guy.

And you'd be asking the wood, what do you prefer to be?

Well, you can sell right there.

That crown molding was done by a Harvard

carpenter.

right.

Oh, no.

You know, and then with that, you know, so the cost of construction, you know, we have 30% of our trades people are Harvard educated.

That'll go through the roof.

Wow.

Not a good idea.

Yeah, I don't know what this, but here it is, you know, this is

This kind of you know Trump saying like look I want you guys to give me 500 million dollars and we'll set up trade schools and if you do what I'm telling you we'll give you your money back So again, you know, what is this this idea of leveraging a deal?

That's

outrageous

But yeah, I mean, you know, we should put out some feelers to see if we can get the Secretary of Education on to see how the papering is going.

Yeah,

that's a great term.

I never thought

about that.

Is there like a wallpapering event that is going to mark the conclusion or the finality of this deal?

You know, maybe it's a wallpapering of the West Wing.

Yes.

Maybe by, you know, in fact, the Interior Design Trade School

put together by Harvard, we can bring in the Harvard educated interior design students to paper something.

Well, they've got all that gold now in the Oval Office, and now they get the Harvard designers in there.

And they can upgrade the gold leaf on the paper work.

Yeah, gold leaf wallpaper.

Yeah.

I

gotta I gotta wonder now too that you know parents right there thinking you know boy my my kid was gonna go to the government trade

school but

you know how do you you know think of the industry now of preparing trades people students to get accepted into the Harvard trade schools

Kathryn Lake

you know

um the the entrance exams and and things that are there you know um

Boy, what an opportunity for some people to really say, you know, if you want to get into the Harvard Carpent School of Carpentry, you need to come and do pre-Harvard work with

us.

Oh, yes,

yes.

Because we can get you ready for their high admissions standards that is going to.

So a carpenter with like 20 years experience would.

Go on to get a degree at Harvard and be a better carpenter after they leave.

Hmm.

I mean that just the just a thought is just incredible.

Yeah.

I

know.

The one of the, you know, it's the last.

I would love to hear from the trades people, lots of different trade schools.

In fact, I know here in Pennsylvania, the union actually for carpenters has an incredible program of education for that trade.

I should ask them and go like, are you guys threatened now by the

Harvard

School of Carpentry?

We gotta leave it there.

Find out for us and talk about it next

time.

Love to

hear more of this.

That's Dr. Tim Slecker, fully-ledded education talk on busted pencils.

Check it out on the Civic Media.

website.

Thank you, Tim.

Kathryn Lake

Talk

to you next Thursday.

Great

stuff.

Thanks

guys.

Coming up after the news, we'll break out the next word, the key word in our go for the gold, green and gold multi-state contest.

Stay with

Kathryn Lake

us.

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