The Bird Flu is Back!?!? (Hour 1)

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The Bird Flu is Back!?!? (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Fri Sep 26, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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D X. Good morning.

Hey, happy Friday.

Yeah.

It's

finally here.

Yeah.

It's been a long, long week.

Yeah.

A lot of stuff going on this week.

Wow.

I didn't think this could happen.

It was like a condensed one year version of what the administration would look like.

But I mean, I don't know.

It's, you know, it's even getting worse today.

I mean, so many things, so many shoes have dropped.

Never a dull moment.

There really is.

Well, what a nice way to put it.

Never a dull moment.

Yeah.

Try to look on the bright side.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why not?

Why not?

Silver lining in every cloud.

There is.

Sure.

Yes.

It's all good.

It's Friday.

So, you know,

weekend

is here.

Well, with the Trump administration, we'd have to call it a gold lining.

Everything is gold.

Oh, this is the golden age.

You know, you're right.

Yeah.

It is beautiful out there this morning, nice and clear and cool, 56 degrees, highs in the upper 70s today, and looks like a good weekend ahead of us.

In just a few minutes, in about 10 minutes or so, we'll be talking with Pam Yankee, the fabulous farm babe, get an update on the Midwest food and farm report and what else is going on in our area.

And then we'll check in with Savannah Tomey Olsen after our seven o'clock.

Yeah, our in our seven o'clock hour, I should say.

And Rocker is here with a Maxink preview beginning at 735.

Yeah.

That's the

big lineup for today.

Rocker texted me and

he

said, yeah, he said he was excited.

He was excited for today.

I don't know what that means.

I don't know.

Is there something special?

I don't know.

He's bringing to the table.

I don't know.

Probably.

I would

expect nothing less from Rocker.

You know,

you're right.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm just looking at the wmdx poll.

Okay.

Are you planning to cut cable?

To protest the networks bowing to the Trump administration.

Well, you know Yeah, not a lot of people did Technically I mean on a national level it really didn't happen and I think people kind of backtracked and went back Yeah

two, you know, the pluses, you know, Hulu plus and YouTube TV and

well, I

was only

suspended.

He wasn't canceled.

And, you know, so he was off for a few days.

I

know a lot of people like said, canceled.

He wasn't canceled.

Yeah.

Just

off

the air.

Just on vacation, just taking a few days to see Esther cooling off.

That's right.

Yeah, he's

back now.

Yeah.

And people here on our poll mentioned that it's just a temporary thing and that is 9.5%.

Yes, but I am still using streaming services, which is the most popular one, 61.9%.

That's one I chose.

And no, it hurts too many people, 19%.

And no, I support Trump and his efforts to clean up late night.

going to play in ITV.

9.5%.

I would assume the 9.5% is like one person voted for that one.

They didn't get a full 10, but that's okay.

We made sure they didn't get that full 10%.

You

still have a chance to get into the poll.

Today's the last day and we'll change it.

Whatever the next question is.

Something very current.

I'm sure.

Something hard-hitting, very serious.

Yeah.

Something cutting edge.

Sure.

You think so?

I don't know.

It would be cutting edge, right?

I mean, you're Mr. Positive here this morning.

I have no idea what the next poll question will be.

You know, I don't either.

I thought you were the one that was

coming up with all of these.

Well, I came up with this one, but I haven't come up with another one.

Okay, Catherine comes up with these things really and then I kind of twist them and shape them when I can Into something that you and I could use on this show remember this show is for the listener out there You are the main person for this program and we are taking

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your

comments.

We're taking your calls We're taking your voice notes.

That's true.

It is your program.

You are the ones controlling the horizontal

and

the vertical.

Beyond, when was that show?

The outer limits.

The outer limits, yes.

Yeah, phone lines are open.

If you want to get in during the early going here, 608-879-8255 and you can always text us on the Civic Media app.

And also in our seven o'clock hour, of course, our go for the green and gold contest will continue.

So lots on our plate for

today.

Mark suggested that maybe you should play Monty Python's always look on the bright

side.

Yeah, we

haven't played that for a while.

No, it's something Well, I mean it's hard to look at the bright side Right while all of this is happening You know somebody texted us yesterday.

I know this a little too early.

Maybe they're not up yet But we can bring it up later on too

How do they access our old shows?

They want to listen to some of the older podcast shows that we did because they want to check out all the times that CJ was on the program and listen to CJ's response.

Really?

To our questions.

Yeah, they would be able to if they go on Civic Media, the Civic Media website.

and look into our shows, and they can just go to previous, keep clicking on previous, previous, previous shows.

If he really wants to go far back, and there is CJ as like a guest, it would say call her CJ,

and then.

Oh, really?

I'll

say go to

civicmedia.us.

In the credits, where would he find the credits?

The credits?

I could not tell

you.

How do you know CJ's?

Can you just plug in CJ and do a search?

I don't I don't know about that one.

Yeah, I give it a try.

I'm not too sure about that website search.

All right.

Well, you know High tech

Okay, did I just do something?

Yeah, you clicked something there and now everything's all screwed up on the screen.

Thanks.

Oh Yeah,

you can't okay sure go ahead and try that Always good when you get control of the mouse.

Well, I didn't

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do a way over to the way

it's out of my reach.

So

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there you go.

And now you got it backward sort of belongs Okay, um, oh we have Matt on the phone this morning.

He's uh, he's up early.

Good

morning Matt.

What

do you got for us today?

Good morning guys you asked for a call, so I thought I'd deliver Happy Friday I'm just wondering today.

It feels like the culture war where the evangelical Christians and all of the

Insecure white people that were afraid of being replaced all that kind of nonsense Yeah, kind of turned into a real revolution with the white nationalist problem and yeah, and it just makes me wonder It's like there's a reason that their culture did not take over America and the West Because it's so effing boring have you ever like these mega churches the shows they have are so hokey

and kind of just really lame.

And that's why it never took over television.

That is why they're so angry with the left kind of dominating Hollywood culture, music, things like that.

Because their stuff is so lame.

I know.

I don't want to push that on everybody.

And no one's going to pay to watch that stuff or consume it.

It's kind of like a doom loop for them, right?

It is a doom

loop.

You have brought a smile to my face this morning.

You're

absolutely right.

And if they do try Christian nationalist programming on our networks, good luck with that.

But I'll tell you what,

if you go down, if you go down, if you travel to people to watch it, you have to pay people to watch.

Well,

yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe we can

make a little money that way, right?

But if you go down south of the Mason Dixon line, it's a different story.

You still see those shows all the time.

Yeah.

I mean, there are tons of really I'm not kidding you.

So there are like Jim and Tammy's.

Oh, yes.

Still just of this day.

Yeah.

Modern day.

But wow.

Yeah.

They're still out there.

By the way, did you watch Jim and Tammy when you were watching TV back then?

Well, even at the age of five, I knew they were a nightmare.

Yeah.

They

were they were actually fun to watch

Yes,

she would get very emotional yes,

those were

the

days

they were Just

love it.

Oh,

you know, there's a big gun, you know

The big fiasco that took place at the Union, a UN rather, and at the Union.

That would have been a fiasco down here at the Union.

But anyway, the British newspaper came up with a headline that I just thought was excellent.

The UN fiasco, the British newspaper, The Mirror, posted this,

Most powerful man baby.

And in big letters, deranged.

Take a picture of Trump

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on the front there.

Trump rants to UN about climate.

migrants, Gaza, sharia law, London law, escalators, marble floors, and teleprompters.

Well, his prompter didn't work, so he was on his own.

It's

just something else.

I've got that story coming up later on, I hope.

Sometimes we don't have time for this stuff, but yeah.

I've

got

how that all worked out, and a web wonder with it.

Excellent.

We'll see.

Do we have time for, would you rather?

Sure we do.

Hit it, Tom.

All right.

All right.

It's time to choose your own destiny.

This is One Round.

Oh, there we go.

I do like the music more than the last one by a

long

shot.

Yeah, me too.

So what do

you have today for a question?

All right.

First question.

Would you rather have a five-star personal chef who can prepare any meal at any time of the day or

have a chauffeur that drives you to and from anywhere you want in any vehicle you want.

Man, I'll take the chef any day of the week.

Really?

Really?

I want to drive.

I know.

I love driving.

You want to?

Yeah.

I think I would do the driving though.

I would do the driving.

Yeah, I think I go with you.

I go home far away.

I don't care about the chef.

Yeah, I'm saying.

What do you mean you don't care about?

What was that question again?

It was a personal chef who could prepare any meal you want or a chauffeur who can take you in any vehicle you want everywhere.

One or the other.

Like

forever?

I mean forever.

You have a chef with you forever?

Yeah.

And you would want a chauffeur not a chef?

Yes.

Yes.

Wow.

Okay, I didn't expect that answer.

Well, especially around here, I mean, there's no parking anywhere in Madison.

I can't find any place to... It's not that bad.

Oh, okay.

Really?

Okay, alright.

Next question.

I'll take

the good

food.

I don't... Next question.

Would you rather have your hair change color based on your mood, or have your skin temporarily change texture based on what you last ate?

I'll take the mood.

I think... The mood hair.

Yeah, I would do the mood hair, too.

Yeah,

I think I'd go.

Wouldn't that be fun?

Yeah, I think that'd be cool.

That'd be cool.

Yeah, I

want to do it soon, actually.

You know, that might be a great experiment for somebody to try and come up with a drug that makes your hair change according to your mood.

I don't know.

You know, maybe we could ask

the

pharmaceutical industry to

jump on that one.

That might be our next piece of merchandise to put on the John and Gordy Coming Soon page.

That's right.

Let's work on that.

Yeah, we have to work on that

one.

Okay.

Yeah.

Alrighty, 19 minutes past the hour.

Well, when the whistling guy gets here, it's time for

us to take a break.

We gotta move along and Pam Yankee is waiting in the wings with the Midwest Food and Farm Report behind the scenes.

She'll tell us what's happening.

Coming up next on John and Gordy.

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Yes.

We're both wearing our fancy t-shirts today.

You have the WMDX t-shirt

on.

That's

right.

And I have your sandwich guy, my, my sandwich protester guy throwing a sub sandwich at an ice agent.

Or national guard guy, I don't know.

It didn't hurt

him though.

It's 23 past the hour clear and cool this morning.

56 degrees highs in the upper 70s.

Let's talk to Pam Yonkey, the fabulous farm babe.

Good morning, Pam.

Pam Jahnke

Morning guys and I'm wearing my Green Bay Packers shirt, which is my traditional garb on the Friday before game.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I've got a

pack

of

shirt

Pam Jahnke

on this one.

Oh, yeah, he's got a

green shirt.

Yeah.

You know, with egg prices down and everything, everybody's forgotten about the bird flu, but now that is back in Wisconsin again.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, they just confirmed our first case this fall in Jefferson County.

And it shouldn't surprise anybody.

We know that as migratory birds pass over Wisconsin headed for their southern homes, they're bringing along with them the chance that we are going to get infected.

High path avian influenza in a commercial flock, a large numbered flock in Jefferson County.

My one of my thoughts is I worry that it's the same flock that has almost routinely been infected with high path avian.

influenza.

I mean, I was talking with Nick Lewandowski, who's the president, past president of the Wisconsin Poultry Association.

And he was telling me about how just like anything when it comes to agriculture, we're seeing a lot of consolidation in the poultry industry, not just in Wisconsin, but really around the United States.

And he said, you know, when some of these operators get hit with something that's as devastating as high path avian influenza, because remember, they have to depopulate the entire flock.

and then start over again.

He said, you know, that's impetus for a lot of these operators to decide they're tossing in the towel or going to, you know, let another company acquire them.

That's a concern that Nick's got.

He's expanding his hatching operation up in the Beaver Dam area.

He's actually going to be moving to Horicon to get a bigger footprint.

And he's got

cooperators all around wisconsin is telling me about some growers that he's got up by nina and some growers that he's got northwest wisconsin so you know whenever i see one of these cases pop up it just kind of worries about worries me about how it's going to uh... brittle the rest of the poultry industry in wisconsin so i gotta keep an eye on it hopefully this is only going to be an isolated case this year in

And the Department of Bank is mobilized and trying to get that under control.

Well, it sounds like a better idea.

Instead of these large stocks of birds, can't you just split it up?

And, you know, if one is affected, the other one isn't.

So if you split all these big farms up, that would be a better idea, right?

Pam Jahnke

And they do.

And they do.

We do that in dairy as well.

They call them satellite locations.

So you may have, like, say, the office in one area, and then you'll have additional barns in different areas.

That's why Nick's got his growers kind of dotting the state that operation in Jefferson, like I said, may just be one situation where they've got all their laying hens in one area or something like that.

But a lot of the poultry industry have those satellite locations, like you said, so that they can mitigate

some of that risk.

But I'd be taking another look.

You know, you also have to talk to your backyard burgers.

A

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lot of

Pam Jahnke

people have chickens now, boy.

And I'll

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tell you,

Pam Jahnke

it's not just chickens.

It'd be ducks or geese.

You get my

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here.

Pam Jahnke

But boy, I'm telling you, you start to let them out at, you know, you want to let them out so they can be out on the grass and

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all that kind

Pam Jahnke

of stuff.

Well,

without good biosecurity measures in place, you are risking your backyard birds to the same infection that that commercial flock in Jefferson was exposed to.

Well, I'm glad you scared everybody who does have those birds now.

So, let's get

Pam Jahnke

to

the, I know, you know, I thought that was the biggest flaw in the idea of having your own chickens for eggs.

It seemed like you really couldn't control that.

You don't have the science there.

You don't have the, you know, the, the, the checkup.

on your birds to see whether they have the bird

flu or

not.

So yeah,

that's a dangerous

thing.

All

right,

let's get to the cranberry crop,

Pam Jahnke

which

is a huge, huge part of our economy here in Wisconsin.

So what's

Pam Jahnke

happening with that?

Well, I just want to remind people that the harvest has started.

This is one of those unique times of the year from now until probably toward the end of October.

If you want to take a drive and you want to see color, we don't have color in the leaves necessarily, but

pretty soon you're going to see color in the cranberry bogs.

And if you head up towards Warren, Wisconsin Rapids, even Eagle River, there's growers that would love to have you come out and visit the bogs.

I don't know if they're going to let you walk in the bogs, but you'll be able to see the harvest unfold and it's really beautiful.

I was talking with one of the growers by Eagle River, though, and he said he's a little concerned that their yields might be off a little bit this year because of all the smoke that came in from Canada.

It

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was

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a bad timing.

The cranberries really needed straight on sunshine to get the most out of their buds.

And that didn't necessarily materialize.

And then they had that scare earlier in September when we got the cooler temperatures.

So I'm thinking we're still going to dominate North America with Wisconsin cranberry production, but maybe not a record breaker like we've seen in the past.

Yeah.

And Pam, how are the fall colors looking across the state up north, starting to get close

Pam Jahnke

to

peak?

Pam Jahnke

Well, we talked to a dnr specialist that's keeping an eye on it.

Then I looked at travelwisconsin.com.

And I think we still have a little time yet.

You know, we're going to be in the 80s this weekend again.

And I don't think that any tree is really getting the feel that winter's on the way.

Even in the Northwoods right now, they do not have much for color.

But the dnr specialist we talked to said because of the cooler temperatures we had in September and ample water, ample moisture.

He thinks this could be one of the most beautiful falls Wisconsin

seen in a few years.

So travelwisconson.com has a color map.

If you want to kind of keep an eye on that, I think now is the time if that's something that you really get your jam on liking to drive around and see colors.

You should have plenty of opportunity coming up in the next few weeks.

All right, excellent.

Thank you, Pam.

You have a good weekend.

You

Pam Jahnke

betcha, fellas.

Talk to you next week.

You too.

Talk to you Monday.

Have a good game.

We'll see ya.

29 past the hour when we return.

It's a special Web Wisdom edition of Idiocracy.

It is.

Oh, and John and Gordy.

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point.

Intelligence continued to decline until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

No!

You dense, irritating miniature beast of burden!

Idiocracy!

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Well, we've got a lot of that this time around, and this is a very special edition of Idiocracy, and this is a Web Wisdom edition.

And we'll get to those in just a moment.

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All right.

And coming up in about.

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We'll reveal the next keyword in that contest.

Super.

All right.

The Web Wisdom edition of Idiocracy.

That's right.

Got a lot of Web Wisdoms stored up here.

Ready to go.

We do.

We do.

Let's see here.

Yeah?

What?

Is there an introduction or anything like that?

Do we have it?

Alright, there it is.

I was trying

to wait for the time to say it.

Short and sweet.

I was waiting for that to jump right in and worked a long time on that.

Gonna be

a little

longer.

Only had some help.

All right, okay.

All right, you know I learned a lot from my kids we we get into discussions and those discussions last sometimes for a couple of hours which isn't good at bedtime Sometimes I stay up really late, but we have good discussions and they tell me what's going on you know on the internet son the big tubes and There's one person that they used to watch a long time ago.

They have since

Abandoned him, but his name is destiny.

He's a podcaster out there left wing, but This is an odd guy Anyway, he has done what Charlie Kirk has done.

He's gone out and he's talked to students and this is him in front of a group of college students taking questions and I thought what he said was very appropriate and and smart.

Let's listen

How do we just have formed that peaceful dialogue?

How do we get through this?

I mean nobody likes the answer, but I mean like the right has to be willing to take accountability for things and to No, we've been doing that though that has been doing that for the past

decade

It's

not, you can't, it's the both sides thing just doesn't work anymore.

It's like a boat rowing with one paddle, like the left can row harder and harder, but we're still gonna go around in circles, until the right is willing to actually come out and say, hey, everybody, including us, everybody needs to tone it down.

I'm not even saying they have to save themselves personally.

Like everybody has to do it.

Donald Trump cannot condemn violence in this country without also talking about the radical left in Joe Biden.

He can't do it.

I agree.

I wish you would stop that rhetoric.

The reality is like when,

When there was supposedly a threat from Iran to assassinate Trump, Biden increased his secret service detail.

After the assassination attempt against Trump, which was by a registered Republican, Joe Biden didn't make it political.

You know, he had a lot of even more security to Donald Trump and he told everybody in the United States that he needed to calm down.

After this last shooting happened with Charlie Kirk in like 12 hours, the right wing had spun up, including Donald Trump and J.D.

Vance and Nancy Mace and Stephen Crowder and Matt Walsh and every other alternative you don't like had spun up an entire conspiracy theory about who the guy was, but we knew anything about it.

Both sides are not equal here.

That is Destiny, a podcaster.

And I think he was right on.

There was just a flood of information out there on X. You couldn't avoid the right wing media fix in all of this.

It was just outrageous.

And in fact, that's our next.

It's actually an anti-web wisdom.

All right.

Here's the audio of an animated piece of propaganda from the mega AI abusers that is part of the final push to capitalize on all that turmoil left by Charlie Kirk.

It's projection, of course.

encouraging bad actors from the megaculture commit violence capitalism is on the line folks a system that forces Americans to live paycheck to paycheck minimum wages of $7.25 an hour to be homeless to die preventable deaths a shift from your wealth to the upper wealth

That's what it's all about.

That's capitalism.

If you like that, well, you're going to love this.

So let's listen to Cut 187.

The

left devours itself.

In a stunning act of political desperation, New York Governor Kathy Hockel endorsed socialists Zoran Mamdani for mayor, trying to stop the bleeding within her fractured party.

The response, a public and utter humiliation.

Mamdani's blatant refusal to return the support was not just a snub, it was a power move.

A declaration that the old guard is irrelevant and that the socialists are now in command.

The radical wing, emboldened by a climate where political violence is excused and even celebrated, is taking power by storm.

Socialism has become the dominant ideology among their voters, while capitalism is seen as the enemy.

They nurtured the monster of radicalism, and now the monster devours them from within.

This internal rot sets the stage for a spectacular failure in the general election, which will be their funeral.

The right is grateful, watching as their opponents self-destruct.

there you go wow so uh yeah the democrats are bound to lose the next election keep telling yourself that

wow okay

you know this you know it's late stage capitalism whatever you want to call it obviously you know living paycheck to paycheck and then of course after this year we're gonna all lose our

health insurance,

because we

won't be able to afford it on the Affordable Care Act, on Obamacare, the marketplace.

That's all going to happen.

And right now, the right wing is repeating over and over and over again what the Democrats aren't doing.

They don't want to pass any kind of bill, any kind of bill, until they get

the Republicans to agree to continue the tax credits for the Affordable Care Act which makes the premiums each month affordable for every American in this country.

Instead what they're saying is that this effort by the Democrats really wants to give healthcare to immigrants.

Illegal immigrants.

I have no idea how they stretched it to that point, but that's what they're saying.

They're not saying anything else.

It's actually us It's the American public that will be losing out because we'll be losing those tax credits.

Okay, and I'm on my soapbox again I'm big on health care, you know, this is the whole thing here

and there's a government shutdown looming and Showdown on that before too long

We have Mark.

Oh, well, let's go to Mark right away.

Let's see what he's got for us.

Good morning, Mark.

Good morning.

From Mondami, I thought, you know, they're complaining about him taking over the grocery stores or something like that.

Yeah.

But I thought he just proposed that at, in these places where there's food deserts, where there's not a grocery store available to the population there, he wanted the government to step in and actually build some, or actually, you know, establish some grocery stores so people are actually able to have access to food.

Yeah.

Maybe I got that wrong, but that's what I remember hearing from him.

I haven't been paying close enough attention perhaps, but that's the kind of socialism that he is proposing, that when the private sector isn't providing for it, that the government has the responsibility.

Jesus pointed out what Matthew 25, 31 to 46, that we actually have a responsibility to our fellow man.

and that, um, that's what it should be about because capitalism hasn't served, you know, that serves in some cases, but doesn't serve well in other cases.

And that's all they're saying.

So, yeah, freak out over that is, um,

it's outrageous.

And, uh, you know, the only thing, the only thing I will suggest to, uh, Mondani is, uh, that I wish he would stop saying it's free.

Uh, you know, a lot of these services, uh,

It's not free.

It's paid by taxpayers.

So stop saying the free stuff.

But it's, you know, taxpayers all pooling together to lower the prices of all of these services that he wants to provide in New York.

All right, let's go on to Joe.

Joe, what have you got for us?

I appreciate the fact that you're talking about healthcare yet again and do remember that our president just announced yet again that he's going to deal with pharmaceutical prices but they're going to drop by fifteen hundred percent which as we know as we know means that if you pay a hundred dollars for your drug that you're going to get

Fourteen hundred back from the government one assumed and the drugs.

Yeah.

And I know when you're talking about wisdom, I did want to echo thanks for Mark's calling as always.

And I did want to echo thanks to Charles for from Milwaukee yesterday for the words he said about your conversation with CJ.

And I think that there was some wisdom and great wisdom in what you did in that instead of trying to reason CJ out of his weird.

thing that he's got going that instead you said to him specifically give me one specific example and he couldn't do it and he's got this miasma the sea around him of unhappiness and resentment and anger toward liberal and progressive people but he couldn't name one thing that was bothering him and i think it's a really important point there was um you know i really try to have a specific example like this this pharmaceutical example yeah so if

CJ could look at that to sort of say, what is it?

Is there one thing that is bothering you?

And then we could parse that out.

But instead, when you just have this bad sea of, you people, and it doesn't help at all.

So I agree that what you're challenged to say, give me one specific example, was really, really helpful.

And it's helpful for me too, because I'm going to start to do that more concretely by saying,

One specific example.

I think Donald Trump is a moron.

I think his example of saying that he's going to drop pharmaceutical prices by 1,500% is my evidence.

Yes.

All right.

Thanks, Joe.

Thank you for that.

Yeah, that was well said.

And adding to the drug prices is something new from Trump today.

What?

100% tariff on all brand name drugs.

coming into this country unless they'll lift the tariff.

if those drug companies produce those drugs in the United States.

So

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until

then, the brand name drugs, 100% tariff on all of them, tell me that's not gonna raise the price of those drugs.

And by the way, that does not apply to generics, which I think owns about 80 or 90% of the market.

So again, not all drug prices will go up, but brand names, if you need one of those, 100% tariff unless they're manufacturing

him in the United States.

Wow.

Yeah.

He doesn't care if the prices go up for us.

He really doesn't care.

It's an adjustment.

We'll all have to deal with it until all of his policies fall into place.

Until then, of course, we're going to go broke and we're going to be homeless.

I don't know how anybody can allow something like this to happen, like CJ or my mega friend in Milwaukee, how they can sit by and let this stuff happen.

But I don't think they're paying attention to this, or maybe my mega friend in Milwaukee is probably the person I'm talking to at this point, I think.

CJ is a little bit more understanding.

He understands a lot of the different issues that are out there in a different way than I do.

But you know, my mega friend does not pay attention.

He's sidetracked by all of the crazy stuff the magus throw out there as you red meat, you know, chum.

Yeah, that's it.

It's just, you know, so waste of time and he likes wasting his time

on all this small stuff.

Yeah.

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You know this is a special edition, a web wisdom edition of Idiocracy this morning.

We'll get to more of that.

I just want to mention here we heard something on drug prices and we also heard that the ACA is certainly going to go up.

as far as prices are concerned because the tax credits won't be continued.

I just want to pass along this.

This is a tweet.

President Trump says he will not cave to Chuck Schumer's demands of $1 trillion for transgender surgeries for minors and health care for illegals.

That is how they're packaging the tax credits we're getting on the Affordable Care Act.

That's their excuse, which is an empty excuse.

It's not happening.

So just keep that in mind.

Okay.

Just a red flag.

I just want to present out there in case you read all of this stuff from the right wing that actually come out with the exact same line over and over and over again.

It's not.

It's a tax credits for the ACA and a lot of people will be losing their health care, including my family.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Tough times ahead.

Yeah.

No doubt.

Okay.

Okay.

And, uh, okay.

Let's, uh, let's continue with, uh, web wisdoms here.

All right.

Now this is a couple talking to another couple, uh, a lefty couple and a righty couple.

And, uh, the lefty couple is saying, Hey, this is the question.

Yes.

Is Trump overreaching with what he's doing, his agenda.

Is it overreach or not?

And I just want to.

play this for you, this is their response to it.

It's frustrating.

Imagine you were a soyboy liberal for one second.

Can you empathize with my point of view?

I know it hurts.

Empathize, when I see the president of the United States in an unprecedented way, putting his thumb on the scale, trying to attack universities, law firms, the media for sure.

You can't deny he attacks the media.

He doesn't he sued multiple like ABC recently?

NPR.

All of these different lawsuits.

Does that not worry you that it's executive overreach?

Can you see where we're coming from?

for suing people?

No, not just suing people, but using the executive branch to place pressure on universities and law firms and

media.

Do I see that as a problem not necessarily?

Why not?

Because I think if he's fighting for things that need to be done then...

What if we replace the word Trump with Biden?

Yeah, if this was a liberal

administration, you'd be like, this is horrible!

Oh my God!

Well, like I said, sometimes it can be good and sometimes it can be bad.

Okay, so it's only good when it's

people you agree with.

Got it.

Well, putting your thumb on the scale to influence the country is kind of what politicians and the president did.

Oh, that's not the idea.

That's

not how that works.

Okay,

so there exists something called checks and balances.

Oftentimes courts or law firms or all of these things exist as a check on the executive branch.

What Trump is doing is intentionally eroding

all of these checks by attacking the courts.

Even Supreme Court Justice Alito had to come out recently and say, Trump, you got to stop calling to impeach judges.

It's not the place of the president to call to impeach judges without due process.

So we can go across the board with like courts, universities, everything.

And Trump is always applying pressure in a way that he shouldn't be, not as a president, not going through Congress and passing some law.

And...

I just wonder if you can empathize

with my point of view there.

I just think that he's doing the will of the American people, and I love to see it.

Wow, what a

politician answer.

What a politician answer.

You're like Vivek Ramoswami, bro.

Oh, don't compare me to that.

Okay, fine, JD Vance.

All right, so, you know, the thing here, and you'll notice that the guy on the left had to present, like, example after example after

example.

Right, yeah.

The other guy.

No, I just think he's doing what the people voted him to do.

Thanks for that

answer, I think.

He brought up a name I hadn't heard in a while, Ramaswamy.

Whatever happened to him?

Ramaswamy.

I don't know.

Probably went on to some major corporation as a CEO,

like

Ryan Walters.

We've got Charles

on the phone.

Good morning, Charles.

Go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys.

I haven't heard any of Trump supporters complaining about them trying to negotiate a $20 billion swap line to help the president in Argentina win the race.

He's not doing that well there.

Their economy is horrible.

So we're planning to spend $20 billion to help

This president in Argentina win.

I didn't know that he ran on that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know if we voted for that helping

out here Yeah, I hear anything about that twenty twenty billion dollars To help this guy win in Argentina because the economy is not doing that great and they want this guy to stay in office

I'm sure he's working for the American people in in that

in that effort.

I don't know, we're losing a place for the homeless to live here in Madison, but he's helping Argentina.

I

know,

I

know.

$20 billion.

I won't mention anybody's name, but I wonder when he when he calls into the show, will he say that that's a disgrace and we should not be doing that or is that okay because it's his guy, Trump, that's doing it.

Yeah.

Yeah, very good point, Charles.

And Bob in Oklahoma, Texas, he said, don't worry, CJ will be calling the day after you challenged him.

Maybe he has found something to complain about when it comes to education.

Remember, during COVID, the parents finally saw what the kids were learning in school, and they hated it.

They just hated it.

And we're trying to find out what it was that they disagreed with.

There weren't any answers.

Let's go to one more.

I think we have time for here

squeezing them very quickly

Actually, don't

all right.

Well, let's hold on to that.

All right.

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