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Go to it.
It's complicated.
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Let's go to CJ.
Oh, yeah.
What do you have?
By the way, I'm sad that we don't have Tim to respond to you.
You probably get the typical patriotic left wing opinion here on the show, but go ahead.
Do your thing.
I know you wanted to talk about... Give us the rest of the story.
Yeah, as a conservative parent, you want to give us your point of view on this.
Go ahead.
Well, yeah, I did want to talk to Mr. Busted Pencils, but I have spoken to them before, and yeah, they've been very nice like you guys are.
Not everybody is, but...
You know, I think it is true.
All we need is the test results that we're failing teaching our kids.
And parents found out what kids were learning during COVID.
And a lot of it, conservative parents and even I'd say middle of the road parents were shocked by some of the stuff that was being taught, allowed.
and the social issues.
had?
Just one.
Again, the test results.
Lack of reading, writing, and arithmetic.
Well, I guess how does it work?
You know, we've had incidences.
I guess what bothers me is what some of the left stands up for.
and argues for.
And we saw it in Sun Prairie.
You know, as simple as the difference, biologically, there's two genders.
Well, you know, I also want to okay, I'm
Well, I guess what really you know, we've had a hundred now 120,000 inquiries
turning point chapters
wanted to point that out to Tim too yeah because kids are starving for what he was selling they're starving for a purpose in their own lives faith family and country baby
That's what his purpose was.
That's what kids are starving for.
I mean, in teacher religion, they can go to school, a church, whatever they want to do, but at the same time, does it have to be taught in schools too?
They have to see the Ten Commandments on a wall.
Can't they just go to church?
Can't the parents...
take responsibility for teaching them the religion that they want their kids to have.
Isn't it more that responsibility than it is the school system's responsibility to teach them another religion?
I don't
think the Ten Commandments specifically has to be for a Christian faith.
I mean, read the Ten Commandments.
Yeah, we need to get back to You know being competitive just in those three categories before We're worried about the social driven direction of our children, but parents need to be involved.
Let me just say this, and I think you're right, parents need to be involved.
And they are with parent-teacher conferences, with participation and meeting the teachers at schools each and every year.
You have an opportunity to do that.
And you have, of course, school board meetings that you can attend.
You can do all of those things.
That's how a parent stays involved.
That's how I stayed involved.
And I didn't feel like I was being written out once at all.
Do you think as a parent you should be able to go to the school and get the curriculum?
You can you get
the accusation out there that?
You know, parents aren't involved.
There's counseling that allowed people have created
identified as this and being that and being held back from the parents and doing it in secret.
Why is that accusation?
Oh,
No identity, whatever.
Yeah, I mean them they all this stuff.
that.
That's
Yeah, that's something you should.
Thanks, CJ, for that.
That's something I think the school system should not have anything to do with turning the kids in and trying to not refer to them what they want to be referred to.
I mean, that's you're creating conflicts within the school, really.
Their job is to teach the students, not sit there and report on the students and what they want to be called in school and tell the parents about it.
That's not their
Real quick, two of my daughters went to Catholic school through sixth grade.
Okay, this back in the 90s, they're both in their 30s now.
And I had a real beef with that school because it was also a polling place.
So I go to take girls to school, and there was an election going on, and lo and behold, guess what?
Right on the way up the walkway, we vote, you know where I'm going with
pro-life.
And I went right to the office and said, what is that about?
Well, I said no, no, that's totally wrong totally out of bounds.
This is a polling place Real quickly the situation that called me shouldn't he be thanking him?
He's a guy that probably got him elected
Well,
And one more real quickly, to the rest of the story, Campbell last night, broke a 10-year record, even with all those Sinclair stations turning him off.
that happen?
Second, second night out of the box breaks in all time.
Well, 10 year record.
was the best.
Ever since I've been listening to Devil's radio slash civic media, that was the best take down the CJ.
He didn't answer the questions that you guys asked him.
I worked in MPS for 18 years.
I only left because I had a transplant.
Not once were we teaching kids
to hate themselves or talking about what sex they wanted to be.
Parents could come in and sit in the classroom to see what was going on.
Another factor that people don't think about is some of the conditions that kids come from.
If you're not getting food at home or you're being cussed out or whatever,
And then you got to come to school and try to concentrate and learn.
And it also takes the family.
If the family's not helping the kids do their homework or making them sit down and do some reading, taking the cell phone and tablet away, all those things play a factor.
And I hate when CJ calls in and talks like, now CJ can give me the name of a school.
that he's walked into, and they've been teaching kids that they can be whatever sex they want to be, or all this crazy stuff that he talks about, or the name of a teacher that's been fired because they were teaching this, then he has a valid point.
But CJ needs to stop calling in, repeating stuff, if she doesn't have the facts.
I was so excited to hear him get taken down this morning because he did not have an answer.
He started talking about all the chapter's attorney point that they want to form and all the kids.
Well, what they're doing is they're indoctrinating, trying to tell the kids, well, this is what you should think.
American history is what it was.
And if we can't face the fact that there was a...
There was a portion of the American people that treated people horribly because of the way they looked, the way they talked.
That's history.
Stop trying to take it away.
But their thing is, if they tell the truth, then they have to, they'll say kids that they're trying to lie to about history now will come to them and say, well, Grandma and Grandpa, why didn't you guys tell us that Native Americans were treated bad, that blacks were treated
I thought we were getting rid of the old guard and we were going into something new but they are dead set on continuing to keep hate and racism in this country and I just don't understand it.
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We've got a couple of text here if it's up to CJ He'd want to go back to Arabic math
Let's go back to Roman numerals.
CJ has zero
Good morning,
Oh, finally the fog is lifting here and I can see the sunshine.
So it's a gorgeous one.
I'm glad you guys are having the same morning.
So what can we
Nothing but sunshine sun sun sun lots of sun fog in the overnights So still some foggy mornings, maybe tomorrow morning then that should start to stop as the winds start to pick up a little bit more But I mean highs today mid 70s by tomorrow 80 degrees hold on to the low 80s for the rest of the weekend into next week I don't see I was trying to find rain in the forecast.
I don't see any of it until next weekend.
So that's it
is
Well, maybe I'll
Now's a good time to do it.
I can't believe that morning rain got you.
I can't even believe it.
It was like a 10% chance.
He's just trying to give you a guilt
help him
You know what?
I'm coming down there this weekend.
Do you want me to help you?
Because I absolutely will.
Why wasn't it actually a good day?
would love it.
Yes,
sure.
OK, I'll message you later.
I'm helping you.
All right.
Is our weather ruined your deck?
We'll talk
Maybe we should go out to State Street and, you know, guide these leaf blower guys around, you know?
Because I was driving home yesterday morning and I saw the leaf blower guy, another one, on another street blowing just a huge amount of leaves.
Oh, he found some.
Yeah.
Oh, we had a lot of them.
And I'm thinking, where is he blowing them to?
Coming in about in about 10 minutes, Jim Santel will join us, former U.S.
attorney at law.
We'll get into that.
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I was listening to a public radio story about autism and the suggestions that a vitamin can help out and and the doctor that was talking about it has
an autistic child and was just hugely disappointed over that information, because she obviously knows that a lot of this is genetic.
It's not something the mother did, but what RFK Jr.
and Trump did were
putting guilt trips on moms who now think they might have done something wrong during their pregnancy.
It was a guilt trip unnecessary guilt trip put on by this administration and RFK junior.
Uh, I, I.
Let's play a cut from Jill Iroly, Lirely rather, Kristen Lirely.
I'm sorry, what am I thinking?
You gotta make sure.
Superintended of schools.
I'm still on that.
But Dr. Kristen Lirely is an OBG, what is it?
OBGYN.
And she was making comment about this as well.
And she made a really great point.
Let's listen to this.
People who have family members who are taking care of friends with autism They're suffering they want an answer and to give them this false hope and to somehow make it seem like it is their fault that they ended up in this situation is just so Beyond shameful and for the president of the United States to say it in the way that he said it and then to go on and say the pregnant women should just suffer with their pain I mean
You don't want them to have birth control.
You don't want them to have abortions.
You want them to get pregnant, but you don't want them to have the things that they need to be able to navigate their pregnancies safely, including hospitals in rural areas where they can deliver their babies.
I mean, you've got to be kidding me.
That was from Civic Media's Matt Nair on the air.
Uh, she made those comments and I think it, it hit home.
That's amazing.
For me anyway.
Yes.
Uh, just outrageous that they have done this to, uh, to women all over America.
This is completely unnecessary.
And get this, you know, RFK junior wants to bring back placebo testing trials.
Okay, yeah, and this is it's cruel to do that because we don't necessarily need to do that now We have ways of treating people now We need to just treat the new way of doing it with the old way of doing it not placebos No one wants to take a placebo and and the other thing about this is that he wants to bring these trials back But with this new vitamin they have for autism.
They don't want trials.
They're going straight to the public
Their trial is just giving it to the public and seeing what happens.
That is a contradiction that it just can't be avoided.
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What does it mean, John?
It means that we're hearing from Jim Santel.
That's right.
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It's not enough time.
I know, Jim, but you know, you could use two or three more hours to go, but
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Once again, good morning to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The latest, of course, is that they're saying we might attempt something in the next few hours or days, because one of the, again, spurious attempt to find something here is that he somehow lied when he was testifying before the Congress about the Mueller report and other things and investigations when he was the FBI director.
A couple of things about that.
One is, you know you're in trouble when you are rambling.
to get under the statute of limitations.
You're really looking then for something, right?
Right.
And second, again, I don't even want to entertain this seriously.
There's no perjury here.
Perjury, people think it's a really easy thing.
Well, Jim Santel lied about that.
It's one thing to talk about that over the lunch table.
It's another thing to prove in court beyond a reasonable doubt that you knowingly told someone something that you knew was false and you did it to a particular end.
Perjury cases are very difficult to prosecute, and prosecutors know this.
That's not to say that Jim Comey perjured himself, but just that they're going down a road here that is fraught with danger.
If they do do something here, it might be in the news the next couple of days here.
Also wonder out loud what grand jury would look at this information, whatever it might be.
and say yes indeed there's a crime here many many problems with this idea
You look at the date of your alleged offense conduct, you add five years to it.
There are some federal charges that have 10-year statute of limitations.
But that's basically it.
So you look at the date and you say, what is five years from that day?
You got to get it under the wire, or the case is dismissed.
You have violated the statute of limitations.
And for that reason, the case cannot go forward.
So that's the reason why it might be news sometime soon.
If they can find a grand jury to indict on something, whatever that would be, let's listen to, see what Pam Bondy tells us all about this.
Nothing there.
And again, just an attempt.
This is taking out the legal sphere.
This is Donald Trump's
two things.
One is this is his retribution, which he promised during the course of the campaign.
And it's also, as we can talk about in connection with other stories, the complete abrogation, not just the busting down of the wall between the White House and the Department of Justice, which has existed in Republican and Democratic administrations alike, with the exception of Donald Trump.
Everybody in recent years
This is the Watergate problem.
The reason why we've got this norm, this standard, is because the violations of Richard Nixon asking his attorney general to engage in basically criminal conduct.
But this has always been the norm.
Now, we've got a president openly saying, putting on truth social, Pam, you got to indict more people.
Get these people who are my political enemies.
And the last thing I will say about that, and I'll take other questions, obviously, is
Think about that.
If we were to hear about that in another country, find your continent.
Find your country.
And here's some reporting where the president, the prime minister, is going after his political enemies by charging them and attempting to jail them.
We would identify that as problematic, would we not?
That's called an autocracy.
That's a dictatorship.
We still see that around there.
And that's what he is proposing.
in open domain here, right?
Pam, my attorney general, she's got to prosecute some people who have been unkind to me, have been nasty to me, have said some things that I don't like.
And again, it's all wrapped up when our recent First Amendment issues and, and frankly, again, more generally, president of the United States of America should have no business.
doing these kinds of things should be rule of law independent of any, any political analysis.
This is just say
So the technical answer is yes, it can be presented.
And second, again, it does support the legal term for this would be selective prosecution.
What you are doing is you're saying I want these people.
prosecuted again for filling the blank.
And I'm not prosecuting or not encouraging.
It's one thing for the president to say, I would like the Attorney General of Preparant Justice to enforce the law of America.
Great.
Thank you for saying that, if this president would ever say that.
Others have said it.
It's another thing to say, I want John and Gordy and Dom to be prosecuted because they've said nasty things about me.
That's called selective prosecution.
It is a basis upon which federal district court judges and appeals courts can dismiss cases.
The motivation for it is all wrong.
It is contrary to our basic understandings of rule of law.
frankly, every time that he says things even substantively, there's nothing there anymore with respect to Jeffrey Epstein.
But anytime he talks about the substance of what he thinks someone has done, now you're almost coming into the area of a witness.
All right, Mr. President, you know something about what these people have actually done.
Do you know what the Federal Reserve board member, the governor, has actually done with respect to her mortgage?
Please come in and tell us about that.
What independent information do you have, Donald Trump, about this?
All kinds of problems here.
Just stop it.
get out of this and the recommendation, to your point, he undermines the very thing he wants to have accomplished by talking about it in this public domain, talking about it even privately.
I was, I still am.
I'd like to think, I think we all are law and order.
We want the laws enforced.
a positively appropriately upon investigation process has got to be embraced.
Why not just say that?
Again, I know it's too much to ask of this president ever.
But if somebody there in the White House or even somebody in the Department of Justice wanted to give him a speech about law and order, talk about what the basic tenets and principles are, you can find those speeches from presidents like the two George Bushes, from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama to Joe Biden.
They're out there.
And they have simply talked about these concepts broadly and told America, I'm in favor of the rule of law.
My Department of Justice is enforcing, yes, things involving human trafficking, environmental crimes, commercial crimes, all kinds of things out there.
Affirm that and be that kind of a law and order president.
He never will he doesn't understand that and it's simply about knee-jerk reactions to things he sees doesn't I don't know candidly that even appreciates the point we just made that you are Affirmatively undermining the very thing you want to have accomplished accomplished by saying these things the public domain do not be surprised again Jack Smith was ready to go
With all these things that Donald Trump had said about January 6, all these things he had said about those Mar-a-Lago documents, he has got exhibits that are marked.
They're ready to go.
Those cases did not proceed.
Those were going to be principal evidence.
Why?
Because they're statements of the defendant himself.
And that defendant was and arguably still is in the broader sense of things.
Donald Trump, their statements against interest.
Lawyers present those because they're relevant, they're admissible, and they come in to ultimately convict you for the very things that you allegedly have done.
Doesn't even seem interested in the process when he was at the hearings.
It's just a strange thing now that we can't even trust what's going on with the
government.
Legally or even HHS, their posted issues online about diseases and vaccines, it's all changing.
None of it's real anymore.
It's just based on whatever they think.
medicine should deal with.
It's a very strange thing.
We don't really have a backup anymore.
I know states are getting together to form their own information source and advice and requirements for insurance companies to cover certain vaccinations.
So, I mean, it's strange how it's just breaking the entire country up into these sections, isn't it?
And we used to rely upon government
for information right you could go online yes it changes that's the nature of science used to be able to go online and depend
that there are experts, as we've often talked, people who knew what they're talking about, animating their supports, whether it's Department of Justice or HHS, Homeland Security, now just the opposite.
The Civil Rights Division inside Maine Justice is no longer enforcing the civil rights laws, but attacking the civil rights of people.
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You know, I'm just, you know, I was just so disappointed in the Supreme Court, you know, their decision to let the president
fire you know these independent people on these independent boards they can't he can't do that what is happening with the supreme court it's becoming so obvious that they are part of the administration part of a political arm rubber stamping everything he does
And it's just been the past eight
And this is just the latest one.
Again, you hit all the topics right on point here.
These are independent agencies created by the United States Congress.
That's why people of all parties should be outraged by this.
They're independent.
They do not sit around the table.
with the president in the cabinet room, just adjacent to the Oval Office.
It is the Federal Trade Commission, the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
It is all of these entities.
And the Supreme Court to an agency has said that while challenges to these firing of board of governors, folks, of commissioners here are still being litigated in the lower courts, still not resolved,
Go ahead and get rid of these people.
This is the latest one whose name is Rebecca Slaughter.
That will be a major name, probably in the case the Supreme Court has said we're going to take it up beyond the shadow docket, which is what they did on Monday.
But Rebecca Slaughter, an FTC commissioner, again, Federal Trade Commission, consumer product issues, and I trust laws, trade issues.
You may not see them every day.
Hugely important decisions made by a five-person
commission, and the president fires basically two of them, leaves three, which means the commission can't do its work.
You shut that down as well.
And along the way, along the way, you basically are once again violating the law twice over, firing her to begin with.
And the Supreme Court's saying, no, no, you've got the authority to do that.
This is not a matter of saying with due respect.
They're wrong about that.
They're simply wrong about that.
And they're overturning it.
as Elena Kagan says, in her very brief and wonderfully well-written two-page dissent, she says, we're overruling our own precedent from 90 years ago.
I'm talking about it on Saturday.
If on a Thursday morning, your listeners are interested in knowing what it's all about, it's called Humphreys Executor.
That's the name of the case from 1935, says you can't fire FTC commissioners.
Period, full stop.
So in other words, the Supreme Court's got to overturn his own president.
And Elena Kagan says, not only are you doing that, but she also says, now you've handed full control of all agencies to the president.
Those are her words, not mine.
She's joined by the other two, of course, Sonia Sotomayor and Katan Chee Brown Jackson.
He may now remove any member he wishes for any reason, no reason at all, extinguish the agency's bipartisanship and independence, period.
And she's right.
That's what's going on in America.
Well, you know, their logic, their reason I actually have the story in front of me and their logic and reason was that these boards had considerable executive power.
Okay, and that the government faces greater risk of harm from an order allowing a removable or removed officer to continue exercising the executive power than a wrongfully removed officer faces from being unable to perform her statutory duty.
Crazy stuff.
This is weird logic upside down.
It is John Sauer, our Solicitor General, your Solicitor General, who is doing backflips to try to explain this.
And, you know, the gymnastics here is interesting.
Pudos.
Hi, Marks, John, for staying up all night to figure out how these sentences will read.
But, you know, let's pull that back a little bit, too.
And I will say, yes, they are executing the law.
That's not the point.
They're executing the trade laws that the Congress enacts, and they're doing it independently.
That's the issue, not the nature of what they're doing.
And again, I know that sounds very wonky as well, but that's the response to it.
And I assume that that will be argued when this comes up.
before the Supreme Court.
He's got it wrong once again.
And this again, for what it's for, John Sauer, also one of the president's former lawyers.
He was the one who argued the case about immunity successfully.
Good, good for you.
But all of this is just wrong.
And frankly, the Supreme Court embracing the wrongness of all of this.
They are
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