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the
know, I didn't expect it
to thank
No, that's not true.
But we need to go up to the podium.
Here's the thing that really bothers me an awful lot about this is that the
It seemed to think that there is a certain group of people that should be invited and other people who may win, but they're really not as important as the other people who constantly win the contest, you know.
Kind of a private club, I guess.
I think it is an elitist club at Madison Magazine that refuses.
Look, I don't care.
Why, why do I care?
That's right.
Would I complain?
Of course not.
I don't
at
exactly,
I mean, it's so outrageous that your jaw will drop.
He's a he's a he's a big Christian nationalist.
Ah, okay
And that's what he's all about.
That's what he's trying to do in Oklahoma.
And people are freaking out.
A lot of people are freaking out.
And his next big idea is crazy talk.
I don't know.
Maybe it's too soon that we talk about that.
It has something to do with Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.
We got a
a lot ads, you know, on the social media and and you see these things offers for insurance, you know car insurance, homeowners insurance.
So I went through that recently.
I actually bought into it and I kept my phone number and email.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I know.
What a big mistake that was.
But I did actually come out ahead on this one.
Used to have Geico and I just thought the car insurance was way too much.
I have three cars and a young driver.
So I can understand a little bit of cost, but it was just way over the top.
So I tried somebody else and I went back to one of the old insurers, Liberty Mutual, you know, with the bird or
And, and I got to tell you that there is no comparison between the two.
Geico is completely online.
It is.
AI, you don't talk to anybody ever.
There's no one to negotiate with.
And Liberty had personalized salespeople that helped you through it, asked you what you needed.
You then could present certain options to them and they would see if they could fit that into the insurance.
And it is really a fantastic way of doing it.
And I got an incredible deal.
I saved, seriously, I saved $1,000.
That's how bad Geico was.
And then you had personal people talking to you about your car insurance and homeowners insurance on top of that.
Well, one of the things I never really knew about was that you could tell them how many miles you put on a year.
And since we're in Madison, everything is like 15, 20 minutes away and not very far.
And I told them what I put in, 14 miles to work.
round trip and they said, oh, well that works out to, you know, 600 or 6,000 miles a year.
I said, wow.
And they said, well, we have a special rate for low mileage travel.
And I got a great deal.
I think that was part of the whole
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know, why
during truth and sanity to American history.
Well, he says over the past decade, there's been an attempt to rewrite our history.
driven by left-wing ideology instead of truth.
And he wants the parks to focus on what he says instead, the nation's great achievements and not disparage Americans who are either past or living.
He was talking to Park Service people yesterday and they were saying that they're looking at more than a thousand items that employees have reported around the country.
They're also flagging a variety of other topics.
I'll give you some examples.
Signs that address sea level rise and climate change at Cape Hatteras National Seashore is one.
Others that explain how Native Americans were
worst off park land.
And there are even references to the impact of urbanization and agriculture on the Everglades.
There was one park employee who wrote that that could, quote, be seen as disparaging the development of industrial America.
The others I've talked to say that most people don't like it.
They say employees are mostly flagging these signs so as to avoid getting into trouble.
And they think that this is really an attempt to erase uncomfortable parts of the country's history and control intellectual discourse.
Park employees I've talked to, they don't want us to use their names.
They're afraid of being fired.
But one described the Trump administration like this, quote, they want to control the narrative.
If you control the narrative, you control the people.
Over the summer, the Park Service provided these QR codes for visitors to comment on any signs that they thought needed to be changed.
And I was leaked about.
2200 of these, and I read through them, and there's one visitor who flagged a sign on territorial expansion.
It said Native Americans were, quote, starved into submission to the white man's will.
And the visitor found that that was pretty stark and reductive.
But critics like that were really rare.
Only a tiny percentage of people actually used the QR codes to criticize the signs.
Others said the signs didn't go far enough, and they deplored this whole process.
Some say that these signs are just, some will be edited.
Others will be taken down and probably some will be replaced.
There's a group I was talking to called Save Our Signs and they've asked park visitors to photograph as many of these signs as possible to capture those that may disappear.
So far they've received nearly 8,000 photos and what they say they're trying to do is capture all the work that the park employees have done to explain America's history so that it's not actually erased in this process.
people
Again, you know, he did mention that not a lot of people were participating because they don't want to be a part of the censorship program that government has in place.
In fact, it was framed in a way that we must get rid of improper ideology.
If that doesn't scare the daylights out, I don't know what will.
All right.
So here's one, a signage for climate change.
It's signage that suggests visitors take a shuttle bus to minimize the carbon footprint has to be taken down.
Really?
That's too much?
That's too much.
That is that improper ideology we were talking
right, then check us out on the civic media app to give us a call text us if you got any ideas also call us on the old telephone line Yeah, six oh eight eight seven nine eight two five five time once again for busted pencils and Tim Slecker doctors Tim Slecker with us today and boy have we got
breaking news.
You're like, we have breaking news, but do you have anything else you want to talk about besides
this breaking news?
Well, I'm wondering about which breaking news you're referring to.
You know,
there's the incident in the South Carolina schools with, you know, a little bit of a, you know, breaking wind type of story.
I'm interested in that.
Well, I mean, you know, I, I, well, every morning I, um, I get news, uh, education news from, um, a source called K 12 dive and higher education dive.
And it brings up, you know, here are some things to pay attention to.
And yesterday, um, out of NBC news, um, headline poop.
Spray causes 55k in damage at South Carolina school Teaching assistant arrested and charged wow poop spray Well, you know this is one of the teaching assistant, I guess was I didn't even
really know that there were canisters of poop spray.
Not that he was spraying poop, but poop spray is the smell.
As I was saying, you know,
smell of your grandfather Friday morning after Thanksgiving,
you walk past the commode, he has an aerosol spray, this teaching assistant, and he was spraying it in the school.
and because why
you know we I don't know I mean you know to try to try to put it the blame on some of the kids and then you know like I wasn't me it was you know who smelt it dealt it types of things yeah um but some some kids and teachers um
had to go for some emergency care for um
Pulmonary and issues oh my god, and I guess some of the the spray is has penetrated some of the Building materials and so they have to replace that so fifty five thousand dollars in damage damages and
Yeah.
Poo spray.
Yeah,
You know, I'm thinking about that.
I'm just like, okay, so back to like, I never even thought about billing my grandfather Friday for air conditioning repairs
the damage he caused.
I was, I mean, you know, the hospitalization from walking out.
I don't know.
It's one of these, you go, like, really, this is a story.
And I kind of look at this and go.
Thank goodness we had a story like this for a change.
Yeah.
It has been so much pain and drama.
Well, I, you know, I know what happened in South Carolina.
Yeah, South Carolina.
Lawrence.
The best part about the story, though, then is, too, is that it also lays out some some other incidents from other people doing fart spray, hoop spray.
And, you know, hey, good old.
American public education pranking, you know.
And you know, my first thing when we move on to this, when I read the headline, I thought, oh,
Holy crap, you, you, holy crap.
mean that, that, you know, the potpourri spray
now in a lot of bathrooms.
I was like, like, wow, somebody got in trouble for trying to cover up.
Because poop spray in my mind meant, you know, covering up.
Covering it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, that.
Yes, I read that.
And then breaking news, Ryan Walters.
State Superintendent, Oklahoma.
Ryan Walters announced every high school in the state of Oklahoma will establish a turning point USA chapter that's Charlie Kirk's turning point USA a chapter in every school as part of a new partnership initiative.
Walter said we've seen an enthusiastic response from parents
I doubt that.
This is the guy who was showing porn in Oklahoma high school and it was on the screen behind him as everybody
was watching the porn series.
You're talking about Walters.
Yes, Ryan Walters.
okay.
Well, he makes, you know, he makes this announcement, like you said, very profound and what, less than 24 hours.
And by the way,
I'm I'm leaving this position for a golden opportunity So he drops this this kind of a Here's one more thing.
going to impose And and as I'm leaving now You guys you know deal with this but um
You know when I saw the headline though that says you know Ryan Walters About to announce resignation for a new opportunity.
I was like, oh my god.
No They they tapped him and he's going you know Linda McMahon is going back to suplexing and Ryan Walters was gonna step in.
Yeah, there was.
It's some private sector think.
It's a teacher
right.
There you go.
Yeah.
He's
Yeah, CEO.
And the teacher freedom alliance is the anti union.
know, and so I'm not sure how many teacher members are in the teacher freedom alliance.
Yeah.
But he's going to be the CEO.
I'm excited to announce today that every Oklahoma high school will have a Turning Point USA chapter.
We have seen the outpouring from parents, teachers and students that want to be engaged in a meaningful work going on at Turning Point.
They want
They're young people to be engaged in a process that understands free speech, open engagement, dialogue about American greatness, a dialogue around American values.
We're so excited to partner with Turning Point USA with this initiative.
For far too long, we have seen radical leftists with the teachers union dominate classrooms and put push woke indoctrination on our
know they fight parents rights.
They push parents out of the classroom.
They do lie to our kids about American history.
Well, we're going to continue to do is make sure that our kids understand American greatness, engage in civic dialogue and have that open discussion.
We will continue to do all that we can to make sure Oklahoma students have the best education possible.
But not only that, not only, as you say, he's leaving that as his legacy.
There are politicians in the state that want to put up statues and I just sent that cut to you.
Do you have that up there?
Could we hear that?
Let's listen to this story.
This is unbelievable.
This is Fox News talking about it.
Okay
Oklahoma has introduced a bill to put a Charlie Kirk statue at every public university.
At least four other locations are also said to be considering it, including the new College of Florida, which released an AI rendering of their proposed Charlie Kirk Memorial.
It shows him sitting down at a debate table.
And that is the way so many will remember him.
You know, I mentioned this earlier.
I hope that another college that joins this trend is my alma mater Hillsdale College.
We heard from Hillsdale president Dr. Larry Arndt during the memorial service.
On campus, we have what we call the Liberty Walk with statues of some of the other conservative icons, including Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
But Tommy, I think that this is an incredible way to remember Charlie's legacy.
Isn't
There's so much in that.
Back to, you know, Ryan Walters, here's the thing, right, the turning point chapter.
You know what?
That is every student's right to create a chapter of an organization that they feel passionate about to establish.
You don't need a government mandate telling students that they will
join this club, that's kind of not freedom
That's a little bit of an imposition.
I know we're worried about leftist imposition, but here is another form of imposition.
I guess, though, we don't really know that when imposition is imposition and when imposition is freedom.
And maybe that's the big debate we should be having is going.
Yeah, I, you know, again, what for this to me is whatever you want, you know, to have the merits or non merits about why you would do this.
This is Brian Walter saying like he's been doing now.
Look at me.
Yeah, look
Look at me.
You know, it's not about truly putting forth some kind of it.
It's headlines.
It's, you know, it's like the mini mini me Donald Trump where he
Can't stand to not have something about him being talked about
right
And so I don't really take anything that he's doing as serious policy that he's trying to implement.
He is looking at any way possible to keep himself in the news.
But it's also
And let's face it, you know, they've been doing this for decade after decade after decade saying that there is left wing
propaganda going in to the schools obviously brainwashing this whole thing has been set up so they could set this up the opposite conservative ideals that's what they want to put into the schools and then drum out the left-wing supposedly left-wing information which is just normal everyday education
yeah um well and you said it's
It's classic.
Hey, guess what?
Convince everybody there's a massive problem.
Yes,
exactly.
And then introduce a solution.
But the first thing was creating this mass hysteria of empowering students to use litter boxes when they are trying to act like they're a furry or something.
And the fact that, you know, my God, a student went to the nurse's office and came back a different gender.
Yeah.
You know, extreme left wing indoctrination occurring and then, well.
We've got the solution.
Yeah, what a solution.
I know we're coming up on a break.
You know what though?
I love the one politician wants to point it out going so since Ryan Walters has taken over they are now fiftieth
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Teaching subjects.
Teaching Civics, well again an announcement that the education department that I don't know we thought was on its way out
is
now going to be doling out millions of dollars to educators who are willing to take on the challenge of
instilling civic values and teaching patriotic education.
So there
is going to
be patriotic education grants.
And as Linda McMahon said, quote, it is imperative to promote an education system that teaches future generations honestly about America's founding principles, political institutions, and rich history.
Wow.
End
like
They were out the door.
What the heck is going on?
They're out the door and, um, you know, there, there she is, but saying, Hey, maybe they're, we, maybe we should reconsider because we've got this program.
Uh, we, you know, and, and what's, I can't disagree with her quote.
You know imperative we our education system promote future generations to honestly Look at America's founding principles political institutions
rich history like you go a one girl
What are they going
shut down the
just as long as
mean, that's what we're looking at.
Yeah.
Dig a little deeper, though.
And you see that behind those words, probably the catch word there is honest and honestly and honestly.
Because when you read further, it is
you know a one-sided view of American greatness and You know and people are concerned.
There's actually the American Historical Association is quite frightened by by this approach because Well, it ain't history When went when you promote a story
and put it forth as the truth.
And, you know, if you're going to do honest inquiry, history, education, and I will point this out too, that left-wing propaganda, America stinks, America's going to poop and all of that, that also is a propaganda story that
Doesn't need to be promoted either
fact is though is that when we get into teaching American history You know conversations like this.
That's what happens It's like well your side used to tell your story and now we want our story told and then oh You're out of power.
We want our story told again
None of that is history and civics and patriotism That is warring factions that continue to polarize and separate people into their teams digging honestly would be a unifying approach to actually engaging in this content of civics and American history So
This is not what they're promoting here.
This, again, is a promotion of, we want our side of our story taught
We've
Well, you know, for American history, let's face it.
Look, it's ironic for Oklahoma, Oklahoma, which actually should be the Indian nations because it was actually supposed to be promised forever to be, you know, that, you know, that's where the Indians were, you know.
relocated to his oklahoma and then they said well we'll just convert this into a state so i mean that they're going to teach that history how that was just taken from the native americans they're going to talk about the father the pottoxic by the piertons because apparently the pottoxic uh killed some some uh... some kind of guy that she was actually considered a criminal but they use that as a pretext to start a war against the pottoxics and they all slaughtered like four hundred of them women and children included
are they going to talk about James, if they're going to talk civics, they're going to talk about the, in the Constitution, where James Madison actually said, hopefully he's pausing that he's hoping that slavery will actually disappear because they'll actually realize what a barbarous practice it actually is.
Are they going to teach that?
I doubt it because they don't, they don't want to admit that.
I mean, the fact of the matter is that we, you know, part of a good chunk of the wealth in this nation was created by, you know, land that was stolen from Native Americans and land that we, and
construction that was done by people that were enslaved and stolen from their homelands in Africa.
But they're not going to ignore the Constitutional Convention.
They're going to ignore the debates about the Constitutional Convention, what was said there, both sides of it.
They won't teach that.
They'll say, well, America's great and leave it at that.
Donald Trump is great.
Let's leave it at that.
Mark, listen.
I totally know where you're going, but here's what happens, though, when somebody like the American patriotism people,
hear your story as saying, see, there's a woke indoctrinator trying to make American history sound horrible.
And we can't permit that.
And I'm trying to say is going sides of telling this story is not the way to engage in.
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