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Gordy Young

Welcome to another day, another big day.

Oh boy, things are, things are hopping in the US.

Yeah.

John Peterson

Happy Wednesday.

I'm not

Gordy Young

quite sure which way to go with this one, but this is WMDX 92.7.

I'm just, you know, bumping into walls here.

There's so much going on.

So many things to discuss and, and, and, and, you know, this.

This attempt to bring down the UN,

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or at

Gordy Young

least the communications around the UN in order to attack probably the UN is a huge story.

And how they found it is a mystery to me.

I mean, with the people in charge right now, I'm shocked that this happened.

Of course, it's got to be career FBI.

John Peterson

I don't know.

I heard a little bit about it.

They had all

Gordy Young

these servers set up around.

Right.

And they had like hundreds of thousands of SIM cards.

I may

John Peterson

be

Gordy Young

overexaggerated.

But yeah, see, I doubled that.

John Peterson

You're exaggerating and you

Gordy Young

overexaggerate.

It's an amazing story, but again, I'm shocked that the administration did anything at all.

They can't find a needle in a haystack.

They chase things they make up on their own.

I don't know, but it's great.

It's good to see something like this happen, and the idea itself is so phenomenal, so strange.

John Peterson

Well, anyway, well, I know that Trump made an appearance at the UN anyway, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, he made quite the splash at the UN.

Said all these countries are going to hell.

You're all going to hell.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, he

Gordy Young

came right out and said something about stop chasing this environmental climate change thing.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

That was the most amazing part.

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It

Gordy Young

just came out.

You guys got to stop chasing this climate change.

Set it to the whole world.

We are the dunce cap Americans over here.

Just put us in a corner someplace.

Don't listen to us.

Whatever happens, that's our representative.

Thank you.

Wow.

John Peterson

Well, we'll get into all that in a little while here.

Just getting started on this Wednesday.

Yeah, I don't know.

There's so

Gordy Young

much to cover.

I'm not really sure where to even begin.

John Peterson

Well, Jimmy Kimmel was on last night again.

Yes.

Back on his show.

Yes, he was.

Talking about that a little bit too.

Weather-wise today, it's another cool start.

Temperatures in the mid-50s.

And high today, close to 70.

Do you have your WMDX Samsung watch with you today, or did you leave it at home?

I do.

What would you like to know?

Well, I'd like to know the sunrise and the sunset.

Okay.

Because this time of year, you know, fall, it's days are getting shorter and shorter.

Gordy Young

Well, 648.

Sunrise.

648,

John Peterson

okay.

Yeah.

And you're real close to almost the

Gordy Young

same in the afternoon.

It's 651.

Sunset and what's the dew point?

Yeah, do we have the do we have

John Peterson

I don't

Gordy Young

you know I'm I'm thinking that the dew point is unimportant at this point

John Peterson

Focus on the dew point anymore.

Are you

Gordy Young

I'm not it's not the summer anymore So it's not a big deal for me the dew point is at 56 so it's below 60 degrees which is Healthy and a normal everyday dew point, but humidity is up there about 91% okay

John Peterson

A little while we're going to have Mike McCabe in with us, sub-stack author and blogger.

And of course, in our seven o'clock hour, we'll go for the green and gold once again, our contest.

So a lot of things happening a little bit later.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

The end of the big story I heard on Marketplace on PBS was that the American economy is holding a better than they expected.

All right, so even with all the tariffs and the chaos created by the Trump administration everything seems to be moving along just fine and The big story of course is that a lot of these companies are absorbing a lot of the costs really?

Yeah

Dominic Lee

That's the

Gordy Young

big story.

That's what they're saying.

Yeah, it's saying this the the reporter that is taking this on

For marketplace is writing that the American economy is holding up better than expected Have they been to the grocery store lately?

John Peterson

I mean the prices are going up.

Well, here's the

Gordy Young

thing We have we have heard the reports and stories by other reporters that the prices are way up.

Yes on almost everything Mm-hmm in the stores I think that what what's happening now is we're getting used to high prices and they're normalizing it and that's what

That's what's taking place.

And I think the Fed is also kind of jumping on board that bandwagon.

Now, they are making dire predictions for 2026.

I get it.

You can make those dire predictions, but we're experiencing all that direness now.

So I don't know who these people are.

Maybe, you know, these wealthy executives aren't feeling the pain like we are.

But there is a big problem here.

And, you know, you also wonder, are we going to hold up?

Are the Democrats going to hold up the economy

John Peterson

with

Gordy Young

the debt limit?

So are they going to hold it up?

Is that a good idea or a bad idea?

I think if the American public understands why it is being held up.

Then it's a really good idea, but if they failed to convince the American public that You know, maybe they shouldn't hold it up then we're we're doomed because and it's a simple It's a simple thing all of Republic or Democrats have to do is go out there and say that if we don't hold it up if we just let this thing go and Pay our bills and raise the debt limit then here's the thing

Healthcare prices are gonna go right through the roof

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and

Gordy Young

everybody's gonna experience experience that in 2026 They're gonna be raving mad people are gonna be losing their healthcare and the Democrats will have folded and not gain any advantage politically for standing their ground That's yeah, that's

If we, if we can convince people that their prices are going to go up and they're not going to have health care, they're not going to be able to afford it, that they're going to lose two or three hundred dollars a month for premiums, I think if we can't make that argument, I, we're just, well, yeah, we'll just stay here Gordy and promote.

pro-democracy

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ideas

Gordy Young

and speaking to the wind.

We're just flapping our gums on this show.

John Peterson

God.

Get ready to pack up and move to Canada.

Well, that's what I'm thinking.

I think that's the best idea.

Again, Sue St.

Marie, only seven hours away.

Gordy Young

And you know, Ryan Walters is back in the news.

Tomorrow we're talking

John Peterson

to Tim

Gordy Young

Schlecker.

I hope.

Yeah.

If all goes well, we'll have him as a guest tomorrow morning as usual.

Right.

But Ryan Walters is now, get this, promoting, putting

What?

It'll come to you.

What

John Peterson

sounds like what?

Gordy Young

What's Charlie Turks?

Turning Point USA.

Oh, yeah.

He wants to put Turning Point USA chapters in every school in Oklahoma.

John Peterson

Ryan Walters.

Gordy Young

Ryan Walters.

He's the superintendent of public schools in Oklahoma.

He wants Turning Point USA chapters and

every school.

Can you imagine like, you know, the Democrats having proposed, oh, let's put media matters, chapters in every school.

Yeah, I don't know.

You know, why not, right?

John Peterson

Sure.

Okay.

Well, we'll talk about that with Tim Slecker tomorrow, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's coming up tomorrow.

Do we have another exciting edition of Would You Rather lined up there, Dominic?

Dominic Lee

All right.

SPEAKER_??

Buckle up.

It's time to choose your own desert.

What?

John Peterson

This is what's mad.

It's time.

I heard buckle up.

Dominic Lee

There we go.

It's time to herd your ravers.

It's time to buckle up.

It's time for some would you rather.

Gordy Young

I think a lot of people are probably very impressed with your choice of music.

You think so?

Yeah, it's not bad.

Dominic Lee

You guys were saying yesterday it was better.

Gordy Young

This is a better band.

Dominic Lee

Yeah, I like it.

I appreciate that.

All right.

First question.

Let's just get into it.

All right.

Would you rather fight a horse-sized duck or a hundred duck-sized horses?

Fight a

John Peterson

horse-sized duck or a hundred so what size horses?

Dominic Lee

Yes Horse-sized duck

John Peterson

or a

Dominic Lee

hundred huck duck sized horses Any

Gordy Young

reference here to Howard the duck

Dominic Lee

No, no, no reference, I know.

My parents just, they hate that movie.

They hate it.

Sorry.

Everybody hated it.

Were they

Gordy Young

amazed by the technology of Howard?

Dominic Lee

They were amazed by how bad it

Gordy Young

was.

No, no, I thought it was really exceptional at that time.

At that time, yeah, maybe you're right.

I mean, it didn't look like, you know, Dweezel and all these other...

You know weasel the characters in the early kids shows dressed up like mascots.

Yeah,

Dominic Lee

they yeah, it wasn't I guess it wasn't that bad, right?

Well not bad.

Come

Gordy Young

on.

It was high technology.

Dominic Lee

We got to check rotten tomato on that All right, we will okay.

Well anyway, I'd go with a hundred horse size big duck.

Yes, I would hundred

John Peterson

hundred

Dominic Lee

duck size horses.

John Peterson

Yes hundred

Dominic Lee

duck size horses Okay, let's go on to the second question here.

Would you rather I oppose?

Second question would you rather face your biggest fear or spend four nights in a landfill?

What's that?

Four nights in a landfill.

Would you rather face your biggest fear or four nights in a landfill?

I would do fear.

I mean the fear would only happen for a couple minutes and then four nights in a landfill.

No one's ever gonna know my biggest fear

John Peterson

though.

Gordy Young

Well, my biggest

John Peterson

fear... Were you smoking weed when you come up with these questions?

You either gotta smoke more weed or don't smoke it at all.

It's getting worse and worse and worse.

I guess... Okay, what's the choice again?

Biggest fear or what?

Four nights in a landfill.

Four nights in a landfill.

I'll go with that.

Dominic Lee

I think... Four nights in a landfill.

I'd do biggest fear.

Yeah, I would do.

Really?

I'd do that too.

Biggest fear?

Gordy Young

Yeah.

Yeah.

Landfill is

Dominic Lee

scary.

Gordy Young

Now, I don't know what my biggest fear is and I think that constantly changes as

John Peterson

as

Gordy Young

I As I peruse the news Things change constantly.

John Peterson

What is my biggest fear?

Yeah, what is the biggest fear?

I don't know.

I think falling out of a plane is kind of you know Or being in a plane and having it

Gordy Young

I still, my childhood fears of sinking in quicksand

John Peterson

and

Gordy Young

falling into an alligator pit has always

John Peterson

been my biggest fear.

Not a lot of alligator pits in Wisconsin that I know of, but maybe up north somewhere.

Gordy Young

We watched a lot of Jungle Jim at the time and Tarzan.

John Peterson

There was a lot of quicksand in the old days.

Yes, there was.

Everywhere.

It seemed like it didn't leave it to Beaver have a quicksand episode.

I wonder.

I think so.

I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_??

OK.

John Peterson

Hey, we're just getting going on this Wednesday morning.

Happy to have you along with us.

It's John Peterson and Gordy Young, along with, boy, you know you're in trouble when you can't pronounce your own name.

You got it.

You're really tired.

I'm sure you get used to saying your name.

Yes, eventually.

And Dominic Lee is in the air chair, flipping the buttons and pushing the switches, doing what he does, coming right back with more of John and Gordy in the Morning on WMDX.

John

Okay, this is a very special edition which I forgot to mention because we were talking about so many

Okay, I was talking about so many other things.

I'm all over there.

I really am bumping off of walls at this point.

Um, but we have a very special edition this morning.

Do

we?

Yes.

We survived another rapture edition of the John and Gordy in the morning show.

Another rapture.

Yes.

Another

one.

I mean, every,

Gordy

every

John

once in a while, um, whoever it is that calls for these things, uh, and says that we're.

going to experience the rapture, they're always wrong and it always seems, well, here, let me just get to the headline from the Washington Post on this, okay?

All right.

This is, if you're reading this, the rapture probably didn't happen again in parentheses.

And this is the sub headline, rapture talk has taken over the internet.

as influencers prepare for the world to end Tuesday.

We missed that.

Or Wednesday at the latest.

So, yeah, it's not over yet, folks.

They've been calling for the end of the world forever.

I

don't get it.

They always do, and they always will.

And this, for some reason, they keep.

disproving their religion.

Well, whoever

Gordy

they are, whoever

John

they are that wants to convince us that there is that day coming and it's here.

And so many times they've called for it before.

This is the biblical Armageddon that they can't wait for.

It's like the sky is falling.

Maybe it's a better option than, you know, having Trump as a president.

I don't know.

But anyway, that's that's the story.

We survived another one.

Hopefully, you know, today is like the latest That could happen.

Well, maybe they put it off for a reason.

I well, maybe they couldn't get all the chairs in place in heaven I

don't I don't know.

I don't know.

We'll keep you posted if there's any breaking news on the rapture It will keep our eyes to the skies.

Don't look up.

Yeah, I love that movie

I've seen it, I think, three times now.

The thing, right?

The thing?

No, I'm talking about, don't look up.

Oh, okay, yeah, don't look up,

yeah.

But

the thing, at the

end of the movie, the guy says, look up, look up to the skies, blah, blah, blah.

Something like that anyway.

Matt in Middleton says, once again, Trump is projecting.

uh, saying other countries are going to, are going to hell as he destroys America and his policies are making us the third world country that we are.

We are fitting the definition nicely.

Um, it truly was an embarrassing moment, you know, asking the rest of the world to, you know, get off this climate change thing.

I had to get up and walk around after I saw it.

It's funny.

I don't even have that clip.

but you know it was just

Gordy

it

John

was just so short and fine it and just you know said it like it was I

Gordy

you know it's one

John

of those times when you're a little kid and you hear something really stupid you want to hide your face you hide your face oh my god i got a nice face that's what i did

Well, he didn't I you know, I just he can't he's getting to the point where he can't riff anymore and make any kind of sense

Gordy

at all

John

Yeah, I mean you don't know where he's going.

You don't know understand anything that he's really going for exactly and that's I think there were a lot of there was a lot of laughter at the UN Especially when the prompter wasn't was it there that the proper was I don't know but I know it's somewhere else the elevators

Oh, the escalator just.

Oh, yeah, the escalators.

As soon as he got on, it just stopped.

Well, that's because of the people with him went up the elevator or the escalator first and hit the off button.

As I don't know, I think it was a joke or something like that.

Really?

Yeah.

So he, he doesn't know these things.

He never does know any of this stuff.

What's going on around him.

And so he went out on the floor at the union and said,

you know, idiotic things and didn't realize it was his own staff that sabotaged the escalator.

So.

Oh my.

Well, yeah, we'll get to that.

We'll get to that from Jesse Waters in just a few moments, his comments on it.

Hey, want to check out the WMDXRadio.com website here and the poll numbers are, you know, this is.

Uh, the question, are you planning to cut the cable to protest networks bowing to the Trump administration?

Well, now that Jimmy Kimmel's back, I don't know.

People are back on Disney and Hulu and all that.

They're saying, well, if you overreacted.

Yeah.

Come on back.

No, no,

we're

sending the message.

We gotta, I gotta send the message.

I

haven't done it yet, but

Gordy

I'm

John

planning on doing it.

It's very difficult to do this necessarily because I need the stuff for the show.

I need that research.

Well, the, uh, the question was, you know,

planning to cut the cable to protest the networks bound to the Trump administration.

Yes, is the leading answer.

68% say yes, but I'm still using streaming services.

And then 25% are saying no, hurts too many people working at the networks who have nothing to do with the company decisions.

So that's that.

You can go to wmdxradio.com and participate in the poll and see what else is going on in our world.

Probably I'll probably talk about it more, but I think that I think the networks

have to rethink what they're doing.

What

do you

mean?

Because if people do cut that cord, right, they won't get the TV stations.

And that means that the networks won't have the viewership and advertisers support.

So what do they do?

If they continue to stay as one unit and have their own streaming services and people cut the cord,

they're cut off.

They should think of an alternative because this is probably going to happen again and again and again.

And

Gordy

I

John

think they should think of alternative ways to get their audience or keep their audience without having a one specific network that can get cut off if people do cut the cord.

29 past the hour, we're coming back with Idiocracy next on John and Gordy in the Morning, WMDX.

Gordy

It's the end of the world as we know it It's the end of the world as we know it

Narrator

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.

With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

What an idiot!

Oh, what a loser!

Now listen, Grapehead.

I'll explain it so even you can understand it.

Idiocracy!

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

John

Yep, done all the time.

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Temperatures will struggle up to a high near 70.

It's nice and cool.

56 degrees currently.

And our go for the green and gold contest will give you the key word in about a half an hour.

So stay tuned for that.

John

That's right.

This is from Mark, Minnesota Madness, Illinois Insanity.

How about Tom Tiffany's toxicity?

And you know, really?

Yeah.

Uh, Tom Piffney is throwing his hand in the ring for governor.

Gordy

Oh, I must have missed that.

I missed that announcement.

John

Yeah, just have one.

No one cares about Tom.

Oh, we'll see what happens though.

I mean, this guy is, is, is the one guy who completely destroyed Wisconsin's environment.

You know, he did everything he could to get the mining industry.

Every right in the world to destroy.

Everything in Wisconsin, you know, put up put up their minds next to grade schools.

So all that dust and And of course, you know prevent cities from getting reimbursed from mining

because of these giant trucks going through their towns and destroying their roads.

Well, he said, they're not going to get any reimbursement for that.

You know, I can't understand Tom Tiffany getting elected into Congress.

It just still freaks me out a little bit.

As you can tell, I'm a little traumatized.

SPEAKER_??

OK.

John

This morning's been a very busy morning for me.

I had to

Narrator

look

John

for some Jimmy Kimmel comments

Narrator

from the show when he was

John

back on last night at work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I did find one.

And if you could queue up 185, this is his opening statement, which by the way, I am I'm very disappointed in and I just think it's it's too much too over the top for me.

Let's

Guest Speaker

listen.

I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion and I meant it.

I still do.

Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.

That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make.

But I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both.

And for those who think I did.

point a finger.

I get why you're upset.

If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.

I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on politics at all.

I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone.

This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution and it isn't.

It ever.

And also, selfishly,

I am a person who gets a lot of threats.

I get many ugly and scary threats against my life, my wife, my kids, my coworkers, because of what I choose to say.

And I know those threats don't come from the kind of people on the right who I know and love.

So that's what I wanted to say on that subject.

But I don't want to make this about me.

And I know this is what people say when they make things about them.

But I really don't.

This show.

This show is not important.

What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.

Gordy

There you go.

Okay.

So what did you think?

I thought that was perfect.

What did you think that was not good with it?

I think

John

it was too apologetic.

Really?

Yeah.

I don't think he needed to make an apology.

I don't think anything he said was wrong.

I don't think he

I think the reinterpretation of what he said was very wrong and we we got to stop pulling back, you know This this acquiescence to pressure is driving me crazy on the left Please stop doing this Now what he said was was good.

It was good.

There's nothing wrong with it except it was it was too forgiving and

Every time we make a comment about Charlie Kirk now, we have to apologize and say, you know, we really don't like it when people get killed and shot for what they're saying.

We always have to qualify it.

Stop qualifying it.

Let's move on.

Let's talk about the actual issue.

Anyway, it was just a little bit too much over the top for me, but very emotional.

Right off a bad emotion,

Gordy

which was amazing.

Let's go to the phones.

Charles is on the line from Milwaukee.

Good morning, Charles.

Go

Charles from Milwaukee (caller)

ahead.

Hey, good morning, guy.

I am right there with you.

I thought it was over the top.

Um, why are you apologizing?

You said, he said nothing wrong.

Right.

He, he, he, there was nothing that he said.

I don't care what anybody said.

I don't care what any, any Democrat or liberal person says, um, um,

Jimmy Kimmel said nothing wrong.

He said nothing about Charlie Kirk.

And at the end of the day, murder is murder.

Someone dying is because of something that they may have said is wrong.

But at the end of the day, Charlie Kirk was nobody except for a podcaster.

I feel sorry for his kids.

His kids won't be there to see him grow, but that's no different than the man last night.

down the street from me.

Not, I'm not just, I'm just saying something that was probably killed.

That has kids that will not see their dad or their mom or their uncle or their brother.

He was nobody except for a podcast with a spirit hate.

But yes, I believe Jimmy Kimmel was, I'm glad to see him back on the air, but I thought he was over the top.

So there needs to be an apologizing needs to come from the right.

that right away they started saying that there was a left lunatic and the Democrats and all of their rhetoric and everything that they say was horrible, they got this man killed.

Democrats didn't say anything they got this man killed.

All the horrible rhetoric comes from the right and they're good at being able to make it seem like Democrats are the ones that are spewing hate.

They don't want hate coming from the Democratic side and it burns me up when they say that and there's no pushback.

John

Well, it bothers me an awful lot too because the right wing the magus did come out very strongly and say this was somebody on the left and We always qualified it.

We did it on this show.

We qualified it We had a few pieces of information We could assume that he was a gamer and that this is a gaming culture and we mentioned that and that is Is something that is very important in this discussion because it's a new

kind of assassin.

It's a new kind of reason to go out there and act like this.

But, you know, it really is something that they did and they didn't have to apologize for jumping to the, jumping to the conclusion that they were on the left.

They never have to apologize now.

They won that one.

And, and, and that's what bothers me on that as well, Charles.

I appreciate it.

Okay.

We got to get to CJ here.

What do you got for a CJ?

CJ (caller)

Good morning gentlemen.

Hi

John

for taking

CJ (caller)

my car

John

sure

CJ (caller)

Well on the how about the president kicking ass at the UN make

John

sure it didn't yeah, that was he was there was the most amazing most of

embarrassing thing I have ever seen but what the hell you

CJ (caller)

know I thought it was awesome just like 18 resolutions for George W. Bush before he took on Saddam

John

yeah

CJ (caller)

18 resolutions wasn't enough for Saddam Hussein but as far as Jimmy Kimmel goes um you know his apology um that he didn't mean to say it

Yeah, he did.

It was on the teleprompter.

He did mean to say it.

And it wasn't anybody from the right pointing out that it was potentially a person, an extremist on the left.

It was only the governor of Utah and the FBI and law enforcement.

And his own family said he has gone extreme left.

No,

John

that's not

CJ (caller)

true.

John

That's not true.

The family never said that.

And by the way, the governor, I thought the governor was completely out of line.

So many times they gave him credit for being so middle of the road.

Not in my opinion.

He came right out and accused this assassin of being on the left.

I did.

This is all incorrect.

Narrator

We couldn't jump.

We still can't jump.

We

John

still can't jump to any conclusions because we still don't know.

Okay.

We have all this evidence that he was part of the gaming community.

We have all that evidence

CJ (caller)

like he knows who you don't know.

And

John

by the way, Kimmel, let's get back to

CJ (caller)

Kimmel.

John

That's not true.

All of that is not true.

But I'm not going to get into the details of all of that right now.

We're talking about Kimmel and what he said and what he originally said.

He accused no one.

He accused no

CJ (caller)

one.

John

You know, he didn't accuse the killer of being on the right or a mega.

He was, he was saying that the people.

You guys need to read the quote.

He was saying

Narrator

the people on the

John

right, the people on the right were trying to switch the cause or the reason why the shooter shot Kirk was because he was on the left.

I mean, they were, he said they're trying to switch.

Read the quote

CJ (caller)

guys.

Come on.

Now you're, you're dancing.

You're trying to dance.

John

I'm not going to read the quote.

We know what he said.

And he was saying that the right wing was trying to blame the left.

Bottom line.

CJ (caller)

I know he didn't he said that it was a mega and they're exactly they got

John

no Wow, I don't know what universe

CJ (caller)

come on you guys

John

You've got a different smarter than that.

You've got a different network than most of us

CJ (caller)

The networks aren't even there in his show.

John

Well, I know you know, okay, I want to get into

CJ (caller)

that I

John

know I want to get into that is fair if that's a really important issue for me right now And I want to actually jump into thank you CJ for opening that avenue up for me

Because now Sinclair and Nextar, they're not going to run Kimmel.

That's going to go real well for the viewership in those areas.

Wow.

All right.

You deal with the feedback on that.

But here's the thing.

These guys, they want to make a purchase and they want to own more TV stations and they want to own more TV stations than the

regulations allow and they would have like a 60 or 70% coverage in the United States.

Think about it.

These guys are making decisions for what you and I can see and hear.

And they think they're right.

They have that kind of power to do that and they want more power.

They want to cover 60, 70, 80% of the country in what they can see or what they can't see.

So I think they made the best argument for not giving them that power.

Gordy

All right,

John

we will

Gordy

continue.

Well, the FCC is still holding up that deal, that new max deal, right?

Yes, I believe so.

So we will continue with more of John and Gordy in the morning on WMDX after this.

Gordy Young

It is

Dominic Lee

six

John Peterson

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We've got a lot of cloud covered this morning all across the area.

Maybe a little bit of patchy fog in a few places.

Fifty six degrees currently highs today.

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Dominic Lee

Yeah.

All right.

Well, let's get into that discussion a little bit here because, you know, I think Sinclair and Nexstar have proven that they can't handle too much coverage in this country by preempting Jimmy Kimmel.

They're censoring him.

They're silencing him.

Another opinion.

And they think they know better.

protecting their viewers from another opinion is what they're

John Peterson

essentially doing, right?

Well, and they want to please the Trump administration because the Trump administration is holding up the big $6 billion deal between Nexstar and Tegna.

Tegna used to be Gantt-Gannett television stations,

Dominic Lee

USA Today.

John Peterson

They'd own a lot.

They've got a ton of stations.

Dominic Lee

They would certainly have great coverage and they could preempt any program they want and control what the networks are sending out there.

And it just proves that the FCC, by the way, the FCC cannot censor.

They don't have any control of doing that.

They're kind of a watchdog about the

forbidden words or monopolies, but other than that they don't have the kind of teeth and Congress has to approve this next-star purchase because they have to raise the limit.

of coverage that these TV stations are allowed.

They can't cover the entire U.S.

and then decide whatever they want to decide by taking Kimmel off the air or whatever program they dislike or is against their religion or against their politics.

That's the point.

Did you get my email?

the cut that I'd like to play, let's play the original track from Kimmel, what he actually said.

Let's play that again.

Unknown Contributor

We can, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and everything they can to

Dominic Lee

score

Unknown Contributor

political points from it.

That's

Dominic Lee

it right there.

I mean, that's what he said.

And they objected to that.

They made it seem like, no, no, that guy was on the right.

No.

No.

And then they went completely overboard.

The Megas went completely overboard.

They flooded X. I mean, I was looking at X and it was just back to back accusations and Kimmel should be taken off, maybe even shot.

This is the kind of reaction they had.

They knew the door was open and they rushed through it and they just flooded social media and it was really pronounced.

John Peterson

Yeah, you know, I'm reading the transcript as you're playing it there.

And it's exactly what we said, you know, he said, quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend with the mega gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything, everything they can to score political points from it.

Exactly.

Dominic Lee

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that was it.

Make really complained about that.

Yeah.

So.

And they had no reason to one person a Bob, you know kind of walk.

Hi Bob get him getting my charger put in

Catherine from Unknown Location (caller)

Just to keep you updated on my EV charging station my

Dominic Lee

space car.

Yeah Anyway, he wrote oh my god

What planet is CJ on?

CJ has got to watch something other than Newsmax.

That's from

John Peterson

Scott.

Catherine is on the line here this morning with a question or a comment.

Go ahead, Catherine.

Catherine from Unknown Location (caller)

You're a question or a comment boy.

Like I'd ask John

Gordy Young

anything.

Catherine from Unknown Location (caller)

Concerned.

You know, CJ called in this morning already and

his interpretation of the same words.

We all heard the same words.

Isn't that interesting?

What he said is not an issue.

What he meant by it is, and what you might consider acknowledging is that it's possible to reinterpret what he said.

What Jimmy Kimmel said was, they're distancing them, trying to make it out

that he is anybody but their own.

Words to that effect, right?

And I want to get the words right.

I mean, be anything but their own.

Meaning, not that he is something else, but that he's not ours for sure.

Right?

That's what Jimmy Kimmel was trying to say, was that the Republicans are saying he's not ours.

And that's fair.

They were saying that.

They were saying he's a liberal.

So Jimmy Kimmel's not saying,

He's a Republican, this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk.

He was trying to say that the Republicans are trying to say what he was.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And I read this more often than not.

He wasn't anything.

He raised Republican, raised very conservative, religious, right?

Republicans probably, but he can't even make that gauge.

But I don't know.

I just, it's interpretation, interpretation, interpretation takes the better interpretation.

try for a gentler interpretation and stop threatening people.

Dominic Lee

Yes, exactly.

And, you know, his parents, by the way, thought that maybe because of his relationship with his boyfriend-girlfriend, that made him more left.

That

Gordy Young

was

Dominic Lee

their reference to it.

It wasn't that he turned into a left-wing crazy.

All right.

John Peterson

Thank you, Catherine.

Dominic Lee

Thank you.

John Peterson

Appreciate that.

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John Peterson

Ah, yes.

Dominic Lee

The big news yesterday, which wasn't really that much.

OK.

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John Peterson

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Gordy Young

Mr. Barnett will save a place for me.

Cue me.

John

Good

Gordy

morning, Madison.

John

You're listening to 92.7.

We're toning it down just a little bit.

Yeah.

It's time for the John and Gordy morning show.

Gordy

Get a cup of coffee for

John

him, please.

Gordy

John and Gordy

radio show on double.

Just calm down

John

everybody

Gordy

just you know take a break take a breath

Calm me down.

Yeah,

John

I'm good.

I'm good

Gordy

now You know

John

you got a scratchy throat though a little bit.

Yeah this morning something I woke up today, and I was like this is not gonna be good You're not feverish are you?

No, not that I know of but you know I'm starting to get clammy hands, so we'll see.

Do we have any masks right?

Gordy

That would really be a big help.

I think yeah It's hard to talk with the masks on you know if you're on the radio

It's difficult.

He's, he's

in the other room, right?

Yeah.

Doesn't necessarily have to speak clearly through the master.

Right.

Just mumble.

Yeah.

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Over to you, John Peterson.

Well, you know, we're talking about, uh, uh, Jimmy Kimmel returning, um, the complaint now is that he didn't say, I'm sorry.

Somebody help me please.

This is going to fill the media for the next three days.

Can we just move on?

So I don't know if you heard this earlier this morning, but I brought up that Superintendent of Public Schools in Oklahoma

Ron Johnson

wants

Gordy

to put turning point USA in every public school in the state So there you go In Oklahoma any complaints any any complaints from mega out there, please give us a call and tell us that you disagree with something like that

Oh, and I'm looking at a story about Derek Van Orden.

What's he up to?

He is a proposal where if anybody complains about Charlie Kirk or is criticizing Charlie Kirk, they will prompt him to

pull funding from their district or their business or their school, wherever it is, that person works.

That funding, if they were getting federal funding, is withdrawn.

He will starve the death out of those communities because if anybody uses that First Amendment right of free speech, he is going to penalize and punish them.

That's what the Republicans do.

It's all punishment and penalize.

You know, and he, he's specifically talking about a school teacher who got very upset, you know, and she spoke her onions on social media.

And, uh, it's Krista Lasecki.

And she said this, um, uh, black, uh, why were so many people glossing over his comments, questioning whether black.

Pilots were qualified and saying some gun deaths were worth accepting in exchange for the second second amendment rights She posted this on Facebook The post saying that Kirk spewed hate and that those who agreed with his views on guns can't be upset that he died now he did say People dying.

That's the price of the second amendment.

He did yes.

He did say that I think that should

be the first line in all the arguments against guns first and the fact that no one deserves to be shot obviously and see I'm doing the oldest qualifier but you know the thing is that he eventually you know was one of those people that we had to sacrifice to keep our second amendment rights and that's never a good thing.

It's not a good thing to say that first and then you know becoming a victim himself is the irony of it.

And it's all uncalled for.

If we could just do something about guns in this country, and the Republicans, the Megas, refuse to solve any of this.

Now they're obviously very upset about Charlie Kirk's death, and everybody is.

But the other thing is, we don't get upset about mass shootings in public schools where children are killed, 20.

We don't get real upset about that.

We don't worry about the family and how they're going to accept that or brothers and sisters are going to miss their brother or sister.

We don't talk about that.

We talk about a pundit.

We talk about a politician, a person who has a podcast.

We put them above everybody else.

That's the upsetting thing for me.

That's what I don't understand.

I don't get it.

Everybody's life is worth it.

Just one life is worth it.

If we could just save that person, that one person, seriously, why can't we do it?

We should be able to do it in this country.

That's what's upsetting for me, and I think this teacher who spoke her onions, got this out of her system, nothing wrong with that.

She has every right to say that, and it's not horrific either.

It wasn't put in a horrific way.

So, thank you.

Derek Van Orden for punishing us for speaking our First Amendment rights.

We know where you're coming from because you've got a president who wants to be a dictator.

Got it.

Yeah, it doesn't seem to move the markers on where we get with gun legislation at all.

No.

I mean, just people, we can't seem to come to any kind of movement

on that.

And you would think even this.

Would be something you think the Megas would say well, you know, maybe we got to do something about God something.

Yeah, right Well, that's a well, you know, that was illegal gun We wouldn't have

stopped that from happening, right?

Yeah, okay Phone lines are open now if you want to jump in six oh eight eight seven nine eight two five five And you can always text us on the civic media app.

I think we've got a interesting text

from from st.

Francis

Let's see.

Doug.

Scroll through

here.

Hang on just a minute

here.

Text to win.

Where did that go?

Can't find

John

that.

I found it.

You want me to say it?

Oh, we got it.

Doug from St.

Francis said, Trump has ordered the FBI to form a special escalator fast reaction task force that can mobilize.

Instantly, to address escalator challenges across this great nation, people want dependable floor-to-floor capability.

Gordy

Yeah.

Now, there's something I think we can all come together

on.

Thank you, Doug.

I think the first step was obviously to ban malts, not build them anymore.

That was the first step.

Special escalator fast reaction task force.

I love that.

Well, thanks, Doug.

Being on top of that, follow it.

All right.

Keep us updated.

All right.

Let's get to some of the treatments for autism.

Trump's FDA is approving a supplement.

It's an extreme version of a vitamin, and it is meant to help those with autism, a certain kind of autism, and it should improve

Their their ability to communicate.

Yes.

It says here the Trump FDA issued an official notice saying that it was approving the tablet from Le Corvin a Fallenic acid supplement as a treatment for autism Le Cor, Le Cor, Le Cor, Lecavorin, that's what Lecavorin is a form of vitamin B used in the 1950s.

Of course, that's where

rfk jr is getting all this information from the

Ron Johnson

1950s

Gordy

the director of the university of chicago medicine uh neurodevelopmental clinic warned the supplement

should not be given universally and is not a cure, but it has the possibility of helping.

Ungoing clinical trials have shown it may help children with autism who struggle with communication.

Kennedy touted it as an exciting therapy that may benefit large numbers of children.

Nope, don't give it to large numbers of children, they're saying.

The research is still in its early stages explaining there's still

at the 10 yard line in regards to this, but if it helps, it'll help a little and I think that's, that's enough.

And I'm sure that, you know, people that have this particular kind of autism have already been informed of this kind of treatment anyway, but it's out there now and they made a big deal about it.

Okay.

Got it.

Okay.

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Ron Johnson

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Gordy

But we could use a bunch more, so check it out.

All right.

Now, Ron Johnson chimed in, he's still on the...

Ivermectin, bad wagon.

God, what is with this guy?

Let's play cut 176 for everybody.

Ron Johnson

Let me just give you some facts.

Gordy

So

Ron Johnson

we've all heard of Bayers, the vaccine adverse event reporting system.

Well, the FDA has Bayers, the FDA adverse event reporting system.

So in 56 years of tracking Tylenol, there have been 39,540 deaths reported to Bayers.

Wow.

That's 706 per year.

Gordy

That's amazing.

Ron Johnson

For ivermectin, you remember the one that they said was so dangerous?

Oh, yeah.

In 29 years reporting 493 deaths, 17 a year.

Gordy

Wow, that's

Ron Johnson

amazing.

And of course, for the COVID injection in over just five years, 38,742 deaths associated with COVID injection, that's over 8000 per year.

But wait for it.

Those are just the facts.

I know VAERS and VAERS, it doesn't prove causation.

It doesn't prove causation.

But it should be causing physicians and federal health officials

to ask the questions.

And God bless President Trump and RFK Jr.

for asking the questions and starting to use their positions, their platform, to give parents informed consent.

Gordy

So there you go.

Thing is, people don't usually take ivermectum to kill parasites in their bodies.

So not a lot of people use ivermectum.

So the death rate is very low for that, for humans.

Animals, not people.

The reason such a low death count is, of course, they don't take those pills.

And by the way, causation.

There's no correlation there.

The deaths aren't really correlated with what I'm talking about, but you can take

The numbers for what they are just numbers that I'm spewing forth Mindlessly as I always do that's Ron Johnson for you boy.

Why do we pay this guy?

He beat Russ

Feingold of all people.

I still can't get over that.

I

know it.

Place.

19 pass the hour.

Coming back with Brittany Merlot.

We'll get an update on the weather.

Warmer air is headed our way.

We'll find out more about that.

And we'll take more of your calls and texts on John and Gordy WMDX.

Unidentified Speaker

It is

Gordy

trying to get better, you know.

And I think the first step is to provide good weather for us.

That's right.

This is WMDX 92.7.

Let's find out if, uh, if the world is going to get better.

First step, weather.

Let's find out.

Brittany Merlo.

Good

Brittany Merlot

morning.

Hey, good morning, guys.

I guess that's up to me.

Yes, it

Gordy

is.

John

Yes.

No pressure.

Gordy

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot

All right.

I think I've got this.

All right.

Don't let what

Gordy

happened to Jimmy Kimmel happen to you.

Oh

Brittany Merlot

gosh.

Gordy

When it comes

Brittany Merlot

to the

Gordy

weather.

Brittany Merlot

Yeah.

Right, right.

Seriously.

Yeah.

Well, I think I got this.

Maybe today won't be as pretty as maybe we wanted, but by tomorrow, into the weekend, and even in next week, we're looking at a ton of sunshine.

Nothing.

No rain at all.

The only chance we have is maybe tonight, a spotty sprinkle.

Otherwise, we're dry.

We're looking good.

Highs today, little cooler, 70 degrees, more clouds and sunshine, and then tomorrow, bright and beautiful, 75.

By Friday, we hit 80.

Hold the low 80s into the weekend.

And next week, you guys, gosh, summer again, it's back.

Gordy

That is fantastic.

Well, that is a great first step.

Wonderful.

And

Brittany Merlot

I do good.

Gordy

And

Brittany Merlot

who knows?

I mean,

Gordy

if we make it through

Brittany Merlot

the

Gordy

rapture today, today is the late day for the rapture to happen.

It should have happened yesterday, but they gave it an extra day.

So let's see what happens.

Right.

All right.

So let's hope it doesn't happen.

So at least we can experience summer all over again in the next week.

I would love it.

All right.

John

Thank you.

Thank you.

Brittany Merlot

Thank you so much.

Thank you guys.

John

Have a good one.

It's our WMDX meteorologist, Brittany Merlot.

OK.

Right.

I'm

Gordy

not done.

John

Well,

Gordy

Jimmy Kimmel here.

Oh, OK.

Because we have this true social.

Response from

John

Donald Trump.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

He was he wasn't happy that Kimmel was on last night

Gordy

No, you know, he's weaponized the FCC which he can't do and the FCC doesn't have that kind of power So now he's out there blabbing away and this is what he wrote.

I can't believe ABC fake news gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back

The White House was told by ABC that a show was canceled.

Something happened between then and now because his audience is gone and his talent was never there.

And I want to say to the CJs and my mega friend in Milwaukee, when every comedian isn't funny, you really got to question the person criticizing the comedians.

I think there's a real problem there, okay?

Not every one of them is not funny.

And plus his show was not canceled.

It was suspended.

It was suspended.

That was the wording.

So he says, why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny and who puts the network in jeopardy?

Really?

By playing 99% positive Democrat garbage.

He is yet another arm of the DNC and the best of my knowledge,

That would be a major illegal campaign contribution to these people.

This is the president of the damn country.

He says, I think we're going to test ABC out of, out of this.

Is that it?

John

We're going to test them out.

No, I think we're going to test

Gordy

ABC out on this.

Let's see how we do.

The last time I went after them, they gave me $18 million.

Oh, $16 million.

What's

John

a couple million here and there?

I don't

Gordy

know.

You need new glasses.

Are there AI glasses out there?

I think so.

I think there is, yeah.

There is, actually.

This one, I'm continuing this post.

This one sounds even more lucrative, this next lawsuit at ABC.

A true bunch of losers.

Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings.

Wow,

John

okay, Mr.

Gordy

President.

So he's threatened ABC again.

And he even brought up the fact that he condom into paying $16 million.

John

That was for something George Stephanopoulos says, said.

Yeah, that's right.

A couple of years ago.

I can't

Gordy

even remember what he said.

You know, who knows.

Absolutely.

Unbelievable.

Anyway, he's taking it out on the networks and that is a free speech problem I have.

John

Let's go back to the phones.

Got a couple of minutes here.

Dick is on the line.

Good morning, Dick.

What do you got for

Dick from Unknown Location (caller)

us?

To frag me and the president wouldn't yeah, but yesterday on the world stage, too.

He was quite interesting wasn't he?

John

Yeah,

Dick from Unknown Location (caller)

yeah, he's back on the side of Ukraine Yeah, at least for a day, but who knows but here's what I came up with that I truly think about this guy the more I thought about it He did not really want this job at all and he's so haggard and beat down looking he looks like a

Haggard and beat down price fighter to me.

Unidentified Speaker

Yeah.

Dick from Unknown Location (caller)

Coming down the steps the other night when he got to New York, it took him a half hour to get off the plane.

The only reason this guy ran for president is to stay out of prison.

Unidentified Speaker

Yeah.

Dick from Unknown Location (caller)

Yep.

He has no interest in governing.

It's obvious.

None.

Gordy

Right.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Gordy

And what, you know, the story about the battery and the sharks, I thought maybe that did it.

We heard that so many times, or his, or his recitation of the snake, an old pop song from the sixties, but that didn't do it either.

Dick from Unknown Location (caller)

It's truly embarrassing though yesterday.

Gordy

Yeah.

Yeah.

Give up on the climate change thing.

That's what a great message to send to the rest of the world.

And that is not.

representing anyone here in this country that I know of.

Even CJ can agree that maybe we should do something about that.

John

Dick, thanks for that call.

I appreciate that.

I know CJ is seething now that I have to put words in his mouth like that.

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Yeah.

You have been busy on Substack.

A lot of things to deal with on there and lots to write about.

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First, they came for Jimmy Kimmel.

Mike McCabe (guest)

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Mike McCabe (guest)

yeah.

I shared it on Substack and also wrote an article that sort of related to that article, but if people don't know the bulwark, it's a heck of a good

John (host)

site.

It is, do you

Mike McCabe (guest)

subscribe

John (host)

to

Mike McCabe (guest)

it?

Well, on Substack,

John (host)

yeah.

Yeah,

Gordy (host)

okay.

Yeah.

John (host)

Um, you, you actually, uh, pointed out a interview that was on PBS about Tyler Robinson, uh, the shooter and, uh, and you alleged, alleged,

Ryan Broderick

that's

John (host)

right, alleged shooter.

We don't know for sure, but, um, all right.

Ryan Broderick

Anyway,

John (host)

this was an interview with a, um, a podcaster who knows this.

This group of individuals who hangs out on lines and as a gamer as well and his name is Let's see here.

I just dropped that out of my it is Ryan Broderick and Let's let's play a little piece of that before we get into the discussion about coming first for Jimmy Kimmel and some of the other points of Of your posts here.

Let's go to

Gordy (host)

it

Amidst all this, we're seeing so much of an attempt to pin the blame on left-wing ideology or right-wing ideology.

Is that the right way to think about or talk about these online subcultures?

Ryan Broderick

I don't believe so.

I think the thing to really focus on here is that Tyler Robinson is of a generation that has grown up in America where there have always been school shootings, always been free shootings.

And many young people, many young extremists that we've seen come out of the woodwork over the last few years since the pandemic see

public violence as a path towards fame, towards glory, another way to go viral.

And they talk about this on platforms like Discord and websites like 4chan.

This is common knowledge for young people.

And so, of course, there is the knee jerk reaction to blame this on anti-fascists or leftists or trans communities or right wing commentators.

But this is a larger problem, a much more politically complex problem.

And it's one that is very ingrained in American society.

in the 21st century at this point.

Gordy (host)

All right, that is writer and podcaster Ryan Broderick.

Thank you so much for being

John (host)

here.

All right.

And you know, we talked about it when you were last in here.

And I said, and I promised that I would talk to my Gen Z sons about this and get their point of view because one of them is a gamer and knows all about this.

And his point of view was very similar to this, that it's almost an apolitical group of people.

And what they do is they just focus on one thing or one thing that might, you know, cause them to do something as dramatic or as drastic as what happened to Kirk.

And the thing here is that we really have to kind of put this in perspective that he mentioned, this is a generation that grew up with school shootings and that kind of trauma that's taken place for them.

And they go through the drills to kind of, you know,

Bring that point home each and every week or month how many how many times public schools actually go through these drills?

I don't know but I think this is what we should be looking at this is what we should be talking about not laying blame on the right or the left But it's a different generation.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah, and one of the things that I think people need to appreciate is that for as long as there have been kids kids have wanted to communicate in ways that

that older people can't understand.

They develop their own lingo.

They have their own code.

And when they talk to older people, they speak in one way, and then they code switch when they talk to their peers.

And they use words in ways that warp the meaning of, the traditional meaning of those words.

And so when we're listening to some of this chatter or reading some of this chatter, we're leaping to all kinds of conclusions.

and assigning motives and deciding what ideology this person has or what ideology that person has.

And I think a lot of these kids online know that older people are jumping to conclusions and they're playing us for fools.

And we just have to be aware of that.

And that's what journalism should be all about is being cautious enough.

to keep digging for facts, keep looking for corroboration, keep looking for more sources that can confirm what other sources say so that we can really get to the truth.

Ryan Broderick

And

Mike McCabe (guest)

I think this digital world that we live in, everybody just throws stuff out there.

And it's taken by some people as gospel, it's rejected by other people as fake news.

And that's just such a sick impulse.

that gets us nowhere good.

Yeah, I heard Catherine call in when I was driving in and she was talking about interpretation of words and context.

And of course, that's so important.

And what Jimmy Kimmel said that got him in so much hot water was pretty darn innocuous, but people read all kinds of meaning into those words.

Well, you know, I want to share with you some far more provocative words.

John (host)

Okay, all right that we can we do that on the air here?

Mike McCabe (guest)

So I don't care that he's dead.

He's not a hero.

He's a scumbag.

He shouldn't be celebrated.

QQ all the people who are gonna say never let McCabe on the air again.

Yeah, but those aren't my words I'm quoting someone

John (host)

right

Mike McCabe (guest)

I'm quoting the actual words that came out of a man's mouth.

That was Charlie Kirk talking about George Floyd.

That's what Charlie Kirk said in public on the air about George Floyd.

I don't care that he's dead, he's not a hero, he's a scumbag, he shouldn't be celebrated.

Now

John (host)

if I

Mike McCabe (guest)

hadn't added that context,

John (host)

if I hadn't

Mike McCabe (guest)

said that I'm quoting someone talking about someone else,

People would have undoubtedly jumped to all conclusions about what I was talking about.

Gordy (host)

They

Mike McCabe (guest)

would have assigned me motives and said, this is what McCabe believes.

It's so important for us.

That's why journalism matters.

And when we demonize the media to the extent that our society has, we're

We're shooting ourselves in the foot because we're leaving ourselves vulnerable to the propagandists who just fill the airwaves and fill online spaces with a bunch of lies and hearsay and a bunch of garbage and we consume

John (host)

it.

Well, you know, a lot of times we think the Omega is a little out of touch, a little behind.

They want a simpler life, a simpler explanation for things.

And I think this may be a little more complicated, and that is this new generation, the gaming generation, where they have their own language, their own interpretation,

Ryan Broderick

and

John (host)

we're trying to interpret it with our old ways of thinking.

And that's the big problem.

And they did jump on board, as I mentioned in the earlier conversation I had with Catherine.

that they saw this open door and they just flooded that door with whatever they could come up with to blame the left for making it seem like it was a right winger who did the shooting.

We never really did

Mike McCabe (guest)

that.

We have to cut each other some slack because we all

are in such different information ecosystems.

And what one person is hearing about and learning about is so vastly different.

We don't all have the same information to go on.

We don't all have the same facts that we can use to make judgments.

And I just had an online exchange with my best friend from high school.

John (host)

How did that go?

Mike McCabe (guest)

And he became a trumpet over the years.

And he defended the firing of Jimmy Kimmel.

and said, hey, if an employee is bad for business, an employer has every right to fire that employee.

And I said, but that's not what happened here.

In this case, the government coerced an employer to get rid of an employee to advance a government agenda.

Kind of forgot about that part.

No, he was completely unaware.

Oh.

He had no idea what Brendan Carr had said.

The FCC chairman had said,

Because in his information ecosystem, that was never reported.

It was never shared.

He had no idea.

And he said, if the government had anything to do with this, I'm against it.

And I mentioned what Brennan Card said.

I quoted him and I said, this is what the FCC chair said.

And that's a pretty obvious threat.

Gordy (host)

It is.

Mike McCabe (guest)

And look, the government shouldn't be coercing employers to get rid of employees.

because he had earlier said that Jimmy Kimmel had gloated when Tucker Carlson got let go by Fox News.

I said, the difference there is that Fox News got rid of Tucker Carlson because Tucker Carlson said things on the air that caused a private company to sue Fox, and Fox lost almost three quarters of a billion dollars in a

John (host)

settlement

Mike McCabe (guest)

because of that, and they let Tucker Carlson go.

Fox made that call.

They weren't coerced by the government to make...

to make that firing.

And he just said agreed.

John (host)

Beautiful.

Mike McCabe (guest)

So the thing is, I can't really blame him.

He had no idea that the FCC played any role in this.

And Brendan Carr, Trump's appointee, his chair of the FCC, had any role to play in this whatsoever.

You know, that's where we have these totally different information ecosystems and they are not serving us well.

John (host)

I'm glad you brought that up too because, you know, Disney was in a tough spot as well and I was really angry at Disney.

And they were getting squeezed by the FCC a threat.

And at the same time, the right wing jumped on board and just trashed Disney.

on all of that so they had to make some kind of move and even if it wasn't called for it they did something and we jumped on board and started disconnecting well of course they lost billions of dollars in disconnections and then on top of that last night I tuned into Hulu to watch my network television shows MSNBC and there was a warning up there saying that your rate is going to increase

Your subscription to Hulu Plus is increasing.

What a thing to happen right after this whole discussion, while people were dumping and cutting the cord from Disney, they

Gordy (host)

raised

John (host)

their rates.

What a thing to do.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, bad timing.

Wow.

Yeah.

And it goes on and on.

I mean, these big media deals and less and less, these moguls, you know, Jeff Bezos and all the others that are buying media companies.

And really, that's

That's a horrible trend.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah, they bowed down because they were afraid of losing money.

They were afraid of losing these multi-billion dollar mergers.

Yes.

Not getting them approved by the FCC.

But then it turned around and they were losing, they could lose billions of dollars in lost subscriptions.

Gordy (host)

Exactly.

You

Mike McCabe (guest)

know,

Gordy (host)

it all came down to my heart.

Mike McCabe (guest)

It wasn't principle.

It wasn't courage.

It was just

Gordy (host)

money.

We'll be back with sub-stack blogger and author Mike McCabe after this on Johnny Gordy in the morning.

John (host)

WMDX, John and Gordy, the early

Gordy (host)

morning show.

Got a few more minutes here, 7.52.

We're visiting with Mike McCabe.

By the way, he will be at the Wanakee Public Library this Saturday from 10 to noon.

There's a gathering, Mike, of local authors.

Is that

Mike McCabe (guest)

right?

Yeah, local authors showcase.

Like I said, off the air, some of the area's finest authors, and then they invited me too.

All right,

Gordy (host)

well, and you'll what, sign autographs?

Yeah, it's

Mike McCabe (guest)

an opportunity for people to come and meet and chat with authors, but also books will be for sale and you can pick up a copy and get it signed.

Excellent.

Yeah.

John (host)

Good deal.

Yeah.

My wife feels pretty much the same way.

She won third place on the best of Madison.

We weren't invited to the party.

So we're kind of angry and disappointed in Madison magazine for doing that.

But that's just something I'm going to have to work through for the next three

Gordy (host)

years.

We got a text in here says, Hey guys watching from the UK.

Enjoy hearing a point of view.

Interesting.

That's from somebody.

Okay.

I'm watching on stream.

Catherine

John (host)

texted us and said dead air.

Thank you.

We're trying to fill it.

with whatever we can, Catherine.

No, I'm just kidding.

There's so

Mike McCabe (guest)

much quality programming over in the UK.

John (host)

It's amazing that somebody who just

Mike McCabe (guest)

decided to find a local radio show in the US, but that's great.

John (host)

That is fantastic.

We keep telling people, they can get us anywhere in the world.

When I

Mike McCabe (guest)

lived in West Africa, we used to use a shortwave radio to get the BBC.

John (host)

Oh,

Mike McCabe (guest)

yeah.

And we loved this weekend show called Jolly Good Show.

It was kind of a comedy show on BBC.

And we listen to it every week.

John (host)

Yeah, I had the shortwave radio, too.

It was something we had to have back then, wasn't

Mike McCabe (guest)

it?

That was our only option at the time

John (host)

when

Mike McCabe (guest)

we lived there, as far as getting something like BBC.

Gordy (host)

Well, I

Mike McCabe (guest)

put it together, you know, it was one of those Helicrafters, I believe.

Gordy (host)

Wow.

Oh, really?

He'd

John (host)

get some kind of deal?

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah.

You know, gotta be over half of the audience has no idea what

John (host)

we're

Mike McCabe (guest)

talking

John (host)

about.

Shortwave

Mike McCabe (guest)

radio.

John (host)

Right?

You know what, I still don't know

Mike McCabe (guest)

what it is.

I don't know how it works, but we have...

Yes,

John (host)

that's

Mike McCabe (guest)

exactly right.

And the darndest things would come in over the air.

Yeah.

Jolly good show.

John (host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you know, a lot of people, you know, were disconnecting.

I went on the air rant and said, I'm disconnecting.

I haven't been able to do it because I can't decide what I'm going to do.

But, you know, they're joking now.

Well, now that you're disconnected, what do you think?

Kimmel's back on the air.

Right.

So, yeah, what do we do about

Gordy (host)

something like

John (host)

that?

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

We have a poll too.

You know, we ask people whether they were going to disconnect or disconnect temporarily or, you know, still buy some of the streaming services, but disconnect from like the pluses where they get all the P channel.

When you think

Mike McCabe (guest)

about Disney Plus or Hulu or these streaming services, one of the things that's...

good about them is you can subscribe and unsubscribe so easily.

So I imagine that when the decision was made to pull Jimmy Kimmel's show, a whole bunch of people just went in and did the one click

John (host)

and unsubscribe.

No penalty.

Mike McCabe (guest)

And you can just resubscribe at any point in time.

Exactly.

We kind of watch a streaming service while there's something on there that we want to watch and then we unsubscribe for a while and pick it back up if there's something more that suits us.

permanently subscribed to any of them.

John (host)

That's right.

I'm reminded of what the studios, the television and movie studios, what they did was they had all of these shows, all these shows archived.

And what they did was they put them out on DVD and Blu-ray, right?

And then the strange thing was they gave up the Blu-ray DVD market completely.

It was huge.

Gordy (host)

I mean, it was

John (host)

gigantic.

And they decided to keep all of this stuff to themselves and stream it.

And they gave it an incredible market where people could buy all of this stuff and fund the studios, give them some money so they can continue to do original programming.

See, I mean, it came back to buy

Gordy (host)

them.

Yeah.

What do you do with all your Blu-ray stuff?

I saw in a boxer.

We just

John (host)

lost

Mike McCabe (guest)

to have a player somewhere.

John (host)

You know, you could hook it up.

We're like some kind of evil villain where we're like, you know, rubbing our hands together.

He's gonna be worth a lot of money.

We got all these movies and watch them anytime we want.

And that's true.

We don't need Disney.

We have all, you know, superhero movies.

Gordy (host)

Every one of

John (host)

them.

The kids love them too.

You know, Pirates of the Caribbean, just a fantastic series of movies, except for the last three.

Ah.

So anyway, yeah, I mean, it's, except for the last three years, but you know, it's, it's like owning this stuff.

I always received a lot of criticism for trying to do that, but I think, you know, it frees us up a little bit.

We don't have to have all these streaming channels.

And where do you

Gordy (host)

go for news now a day?

I mean, where do I go?

Because, you know, it used to be at five 30 or you'd watch the evening news, ABC, CBS, NBC.

I mean, those days are gone.

Mike McCabe (guest)

Yeah.

Well, I'm just.

I'm just a big believer in having multiple sources.

So I have an online subscription to the New York Times.

I listen to NPR, I watch PBS NewsHour, I have a subscription to the local paper.

So I listen to radio, I do get a little bit on television, but I've never been a cable news guy.

I've never gotten into CNN or MSNBC.

For me, what's important is just having multiple sources, having lots of different angles on a story and lots of different takes.

Gordy (host)

And

Mike McCabe (guest)

then I go out of my way also, I've read George Will for years and years

John (host)

and years

Mike McCabe (guest)

and David Brooks and people who are more conservative, I look for some liberal voices.

Like I said, I think the bulwark is

Gordy (host)

excellent.

It's a good source.

Hey, we got to leave it there.

That's Mike McCabe.

Join us next Wednesday and check out his substack articles.

Tomorrow on the show, we'll talk to Tim Slecker about education, also Jim Santel, former U.S.

Attorney.

That'll do it for us.

Yes.

Stephanie Miller is coming up next.

John, have a good day.

More cast, more clips to listen to.

All right.

Sola.

Here's the charm!

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