Gordy’s Spinal Tap Experience (Hour 1)

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Gordy’s Spinal Tap Experience (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Mon Sep 22, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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What

is going on?

Oh

wait, I don't know.

It's Monday.

Just trying to, you know, get the energy level up.

Isn't it Bob and Tom that used to do that all the time?

Bob and Tom.

Yeah, and they have five or six or ten people in the studio.

Yeah.

Everybody laughs at everything.

Yep.

Yep.

That's all zoo radio at you.

Yeah,

Bob and Todd, I

think they're still on the air.

I think

they are.

It never ends.

They're older than we.

Actually, Bob retired years ago, like five or six years

ago.

Well, he's an AI voice now,

so.

Okay, that's how that

works.

Actually, I don't know.

Then they must not be on the air anymore if you retire.

No, I

think they are.

They're on, but he retired.

They still called the Bob and Tom show even

though Bob

has nothing to do with the show.

It hasn't for years, but

yeah.

Well, if I ever leave, you know, just keep pulling it.

The John and Gordy show.

Oh, OK.

Are you

planning on leaving soon?

No.

OK.

He scared me there.

Yeah.

No, you know, I'm just thinking, you know, maybe, you know, someday they'll come in here, you know, and say, you know, you guys are pretty old.

Ageism, they can't be.

Can they do that?

Yeah.

We can't we can't discriminate on an age, but we're just.

You guys suck.

Just giving you.

You're gone.

Giving you a warning, you know.

Yeah.

If you're starting any older,

you're

out of here.

By the way, I saw the Spinal Tap 2 over the weekend.

Oh, you did?

It's hilarious.

I just got to say.

I thought it was even funnier than the first one, but now I'm starting.

Maybe not.

But it's really good.

It's just all about old aging rock stars.

So people our age will enjoy it

because we get

all the references and all the funny stuff that they say all the way through.

It's really good.

So there were any radio announcers so old that they...

No, they didn't have any radio announcers.

It was

all about them sort of getting back together for a reunion

one

more time to do one more big concert.

And that was that was the theme, basically.

That's pretty cool.

But a couple of cameos in there from some rock stars.

And I think we've mentioned who shows up in that

was was

Greg Marcus in there as well.

I did not see Greg Marcus.

So what does actually see this at the

At the flicks brew house.

Oh

Okay,

you've ever been there.

No, it's

really interesting.

I really

want to go there, but there were no lead-up commercials and no previews at

all I was gonna say Greg had one more bit.

They did two bits to promote Spinaltab.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and I never saw the second one that he did.

I'm sure they ripped into him.

Yeah, you know they ripped him to a mile first

It was really good.

You know, Harry Shearer and Christopher Guest and Michael McKean and,

you

know, Rob Reiner.

And, you know, they flashed back a few times to previous stuff from the first movie.

Yeah.

Just very little of that.

I

thought there would actually be more

of that.

But it was, they did it.

It was very good, I thought.

Yeah.

A lot of laughs in there.

And it was, it's only 90 minutes.

Wow,

it's gonna say

was it two or three

hours?

No,

no, they moved it right along.

I think they did a lot of I mean, they did a lot of editing made it

made it really tight.

And yeah,

it was good.

Well, I can't wait to see it.

Yeah, I really can't wait.

You'll enjoy it.

So it has officially been released at this

point.

Yes.

All right.

They did have it at the Marcus

in

Sun Prairie, but they only had one late show.

It was like one show, 9.30 or something, like white.

And then I found it at the

flicks.

What night did you see

it?

Thursday

night?

Friday night?

Maybe Saturday night?

I can't remember.

It's all a blur.

Wow, that is

a blur.

Weekend.

Right?

Well, you know, you're taking some kind of special thing on the weekend that I'm not aware of.

That's okay.

Don't share.

Don't share.

I think it was Saturday, I think.

I don't know.

It was Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

Well, these are quite wide

open.

Pretty certain it was Saturday.

No way.

Don't try to fix this.

It's all over.

It's all over.

Weather today, it's 58 degrees currently, nice and cool, but we could be in for some showers, maybe a couple of thunderstorms late afternoon, highs in the upper 70s.

You know,

we're so old that they even could tell us that we're done, we're finished, you know, you're too old for being on the radio and we'd forget the next half

hour.

That's right.

We

wouldn't know.

We'd come back

again.

We've got our go for the green and gold text to win contest starting in a little later on in the show after 7 a.m.

We've got an early morning call here.

Should we go to that?

A lot of people don't know that we can't say the sports team's names.

Is that correct?

Yes, we just have to say Green Bay versus Minnesota.

There you

go.

There's a lot of legalities

involved here.

Boy, they really hold on to those copyrighted names.

It's just silly.

All right, let's go to Matt in Middleton.

Good morning, Matt.

Good morning,

guys.

Happy Monday.

Yeah.

I'm just wondering, if you look at global news, I can't think of any time in history that a government or an administration has failed so miserably.

Bigly.

Rather bigly.

Bigly.

Bigly.

Yes.

With his big, magnificent orange brain it is.

Yeah,

it turns out that China is making inroads with their Silk Road initiative and Afghanistan with China's help under the Taliban Will be investing billions in building a new green city complete with trees Urban landscapes so on and so forth and their trillions upon trillions worth of rare earth minerals and goods Will be available to China and the global south

While America falls to fascism with its tail tucked between its legs.

Yeah trying to

bring business here

We can't we can't bring all those minerals to this country.

We can't do anything like that So we're disconnecting all our relationships Simply because we want to bring business to this country even though we don't have a lot of the resources that are required

No, and then George camp of Georgia

Is about to go on an apology tour to South Korea because The racism there under ice lost them 8,000 jobs and billions of dollars Yeah, and the South Koreans are all laughing at us going well.

They're obviously afraid of China That's why they're picking fights with their allies instead of China the supposed real foe, you know

Yeah,

it's just laughable if it wasn't so sad

But have a good week.

Yeah, thanks for bringing us

down.

Thank you, Matt.

Making us aware of all the things

we're losing.

Yeah, if you'd like to chime in, 608-879-8255.

OK.

All right.

So a little bit later on, we're going to find out about Vegan Fest.

And we'll have a couple of guests in the studio talking about that.

That's coming up soon.

WMDX radio is involved with that that get together and Did you notice we have a new poll question out there?

My laptop is not working correctly.

It says that it's on but I've got no blank screen here.

Well, I I actually I actually helped with that I texted Catherine over the weekend.

Oh, yeah, does it occur to me?

Well, this would be a really hot question to ask what question

And that is that, should we disconnect?

What do you mean?

Should we disconnect our cable so that we get back and we get even with the networks?

That's not the question exactly.

I have the question exactly.

I know

you're looking right at it.

I'm looking right at it.

It'd be great if you interrupted me.

Let us twist in the wind over here.

Jump in.

All right, all right, all right.

So the poll question is, are you planning to cut the cable cord, like you said, to protest the networks bowing to the Trump administration?

There you go.

I came up with that and I

gave three answers.

I had to come up with a fourth.

Catherine was very insistent on that.

You can always lean on none of the above.

I mean, you know, throw that in.

Yeah.

Never.

Okay.

There's our push questions.

We're really trying to get an answer.

Yes.

So the first question is yes, temporarily.

And that has no votes.

Yes, but I am still using streaming services, which has 50% of the votes.

And then it, no, it hurts too many people working at the networks who had nothing to do with company decisions.

That also has 50% of the votes.

And then the last one is, no, I support Donald Trump's efforts to clean up late night television.

There you go.

There's 50% of the votes.

I

know.

I know.

Cleaning up late night television was always just top of my list.

Why is wrong?

You know, the thing is,

You know, the Megas, please, you know, CJ, my Milwaukee friend in Milwaukee, you know, I really have to ask them, do you not see this as something wrong with Trump?

Every, every comedian is not funny.

They're a disaster.

They're a loser.

Every comedian is like that.

Except the Fox comedians.

Well, they're

late.

Well, they do that.

Greg got got filed show

late at night.

That's just talk show host comedians supposed to be funny.

Well, yeah, I guess it's not.

No, it's depressing.

Right.

So I guess that's their form of humor is a depressing humor.

But again, no comedian to Trump who who criticizes Trump.

is a funny person.

So you got to wonder about the personality, the person, this trait that Trump has about hating people, not liking people, rejecting people who don't like him.

He should just be able to accept that, but he cannot do that.

He's got thin skin.

Malignant narcissism is what they call it.

And I also have stated before, I think it's paranoia.

This guy is so paranoid.

He thinks everybody's out to get him.

Always looking over his shoulder.

And he's got a real serious problem with that.

Another guy that has that serious problem is RFK Jr.

And that's a bad combination.

When it

comes to public health, you can't have somebody who's paranoid.

Well, you know those drug companies are

Purchased all the politicians.

Yeah, really?

Well, that seems unlikely, but yeah, go ahead Make public policy on that.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs That's for

sure.

It is we've got a malignant narcissist and paranoia rampant in this administration.

That's it.

Yeah Okay, well anyway, that's a happy thought.

Mm-hmm.

It's 19 minutes past the hour

You know, the Packers and Badgers both lost

this weekend.

Yes, they did.

But the Brewers clinched the North, the National League Central Division.

They lost too.

But they still clinched the

division.

Yes, they did.

So that was the, you know, that was the good thing.

We're just getting going on this Monday morning again, a little later on, it's our go for the green and gold text to win contest in our seven o'clock hour.

And also we'll find out about vegan fest.

It's all coming up.

John and Gordy for a Monday morning

Kathryn Lake

right here on WMDX.

Tell us

why.

Shoot the whole day down.

Wow.

You know, they're starting to shoot at ABC affiliate stations.

Are they?

Yeah, yeah, that's right, they, yes.

That's our, that's our trending news.

That's awful.

Yeah, you gotta know that whatever agenda you have and you're pushing.

as the administration.

It ain't working if people starting to shoot TV stations, okay?

It's not working.

You're not bringing people together.

You're not calming people's nerves.

You're not getting out there trying to put an end to this before it gets worse.

Nope.

You're just kind of letting things.

Get out of hand, and

that's

what's happening out in Sacramento, California.

A man was arrested after shooting at ABC affiliate stations.

That's awful.

What the heck, you know?

Wow.

Well, I hope the building didn't

die.

Well, and there are people from all sides of the aisle working in that building, you know, it's not I mean you think oh, I'm gonna go after the liberal reporters or you know, there are people behind the scenes there right people from all political Stripes in that building.

Yeah

Yeah, it's a terrible thing and you don't know whether they're shooting at the building because you know ABC Played Kimmel right

Or that ABC is bowing to Trump, therefore somebody's shooting at it because of that.

Right.

We don't know, and we'll probably find out soon.

Unless they start blaming liberals in the left right away, which I assume they will, get a little traction, get some mileage out of it before it's corrected later.

Perhaps.

Hey, it's the first day of fall, by the way.

Oh,

yes,

that's right.

Congratulations.

Yes.

We made it this far.

Wow.

Do we have a Would You Rather lined up there, Dominic?

Oh.

Sounds like we do.

You know, I'm surprised Trump hasn't changed the first day of fall.

Could he do that?

OK.

All right.

Yeah, baby.

Take it away.

First question.

Would you rather

people know all the details of your finances or all the details of your love life.

Sorry guys, this was an early morning question.

What is the manner with that?

I don't want them to know

anything.

You gotta choose.

You gotta

choose.

I need... I don't know.

What do you think?

Well, yeah, I've got a checkered pass.

I'll go with

the

It's more

above

the board.

Yeah, I'll do finances.

Yeah, I'll go with that.

I'll go with that.

Yeah, that's probably what I want to see that they can Alright second question.

Would you rather have to hunt and gather all of your food or eat McDonald's for every single meal?

Hunter gather yeah Yeah, I think so.

I think I'm gonna do McDonald's really yeah, I love every

single move so meal so Jen Well, you're gonna die early Yeah, but you know I hunt and gather every day every hour of the day in my kitchen So it's nothing new.

It's what I do Do you do the grocery shopping or does Anne?

I do all, well, most of the grocery shopping.

Yeah, mostly grocery shopping.

Yeah, every once in a while she goes out and she has a few recipes in mind, things that we haven't had in a while.

So she goes out and gets the ingredients for that and that's cool.

Okay.

But yeah, I usually get the stuff.

You've got a lot of cupboards though in your house.

We

do.

So that's why you're having to hunt and get.

Well, the cool, and they're jammed, you know.

Yeah.

But the cool thing was the house was built by a guy who

Had a business building cabinetry.

Oh that explains it.

Yeah, yeah Cabinets everywhere.

It's pretty good cabinets.

Yeah, you know pull-out drawers the whole whole shooting magic pantry Yeah, I love that stuff.

That's that's yeah, really good.

Well, that's one of the reasons why we got the kitchen

the way we did, you know, we, you know, we went to a whole bunch of houses, but when that kitchen just presented itself, we thought,

oh

my gosh, we're buying the house just for the kitchen.

Don't people look at the kitchen and say, you know, it's got to have a great kitchen or we're not, we're not buying this house, right?

Yeah, right.

Well, I remember when you got the house and it was, it was kind of out in the country there.

I mean, it

wasn't, I

mean, it's in Middleton, so it's not.

Totally

all really but

it wasn't built

up

around Middleton yet.

Yeah, right all the big big buildings on the other side of the belt line We're not there.

I don't even know if the beer garden was there might have been but I don't think so,

but yeah, it's really

It's really built up and it's fantastic.

That house, you know, the thing about our kitchen is we can do our cooking and watch TV at the same time.

And that was a must have.

It is when we were looking for houses.

That's pretty nice.

Yeah.

By the way, are your new speakers all hooked up?

Yeah, I got my new speakers.

They

sound the same as your old speakers.

It does sound the

same.

That's too bad.

Damn, I was really hoping for a little crisper sound, but they do sound the same.

Okay.

They're all set up for Atmos now.

Nice.

Yes, Atmos speakers.

Yeah.

At least, you know, that's the one thing it has.

You can't hear it, but it has that.

Okay.

Um, did you close the books on Would You Rather?

Did you close that out?

We have to close

it

out still.

I feel like you guys are talking.

Seems like

we

could go back in

if we don't close it.

We always end up with it.

No idea what he says.

It's getting worse.

That was terrible.

Okay.

Well, you might want to change that.

I'm gonna start changing it now.

Yeah, I'm gonna add more reverb

See if people can notice the change.

Yeah,

so I'll be the next poll question,

you know, we got so much coming up later on I mean, I know Lee, you know the the Kirk Memorial a lot of people showed up for that and one of the standout speeches of course was Steven Miller Oh gosh, we've got that coming up man.

Oh that is something else.

I mean, you know

Visions

of Hitler in my head.

Yes, okay.

We've got idiocracy right around the corner for stuff the Midwest food and farm report and In our next hour the go for the gold green and gold text-to-win contest It's all coming up on John and Gordy in the morning on WM DX radio right here right now

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber,

you go and do something like this.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fallen shelter right there.

There's no way to survive this, you

idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Well, I know that the country's not gonna survive it.

We're, what, seven months in?

And it's all over.

I don't

know if I sound depressed or anything, but I called this, you know, it's an authoritarian government,

a

dictatorship immediately.

I could see that happening, but, you know, once you started in motion,

You're there.

Yeah, you know, it's you don't have to wait until it's fully Put in place.

Yeah, Pete Buddha judge had something to say about this a different

cut from the one we use the other

one I believe we have

all

right.

Yeah, which cut is it?

Do you have that?

It's labeled Buddha judge on NPR.

Yeah, I think Dom has it.

All right.

Yeah.

Well,

no, let's check that out.

This is perfect cut.

Yeah

I presume you don't think Trump is a good president.

Do you see him as a bad president who's wrong about a lot of things or as an existential threat to democracy in this country?

I would Go well beyond bad president.

There are presidents who you disagree with and presidents you agree with this is I think categorically different We have not had a president left right or center who has tried to destroy

companies, universities, and broadcasters who criticize his government.

There's been rough and tumble politics all through US history, but that is not just different.

It's different in a way that offends every fiber of American civic values left, right, and center.

We have had disagreements over

court rulings but never had an administration that has been so ready to just say no when a court says you have to do this.

That is threatening at a different and much deeper level than the regular kind of push-pull of the separation of powers between the executive and the courts.

We have a president who really is attempting to become an autocrat and in some ways

has succeeded.

Yes.

That's Pete Buttigieg.

In so many ways.

NPR, yeah.

I mean, for him to come out and say that is, is not one to exaggerate.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

It's very thoughtful.

I mean,

but

that's quite an observation.

Yeah.

I mean, it's not just a

bad president.

I mean, this is something we've never seen before.

That's right.

It's micromanagement at the presidential level, and I want to also read a text here.

And this is from our unofficial program director.

Oh, he used to give us input all the time.

Doug?

No, no.

There is no name to it.

It was 1701.

Oh, yeah.

Whatever happened to 1701?

Well, I'm going to tell you.

He texted us.

Uh, last Friday happened to go through the old text to see if we missed anything.

Yeah.

And he texted this hat tip to John Peterson.

That's what I'm reading.

Hat tip to John Peterson for predicting this rise of authoritarianism last year.

Yeah.

Those who thought he was cranky need to wake up.

Wow.

There was an F word in there, but I'm not.

Exactly going to read that yet.

All right.

And then Matt, of course, we just heard from Matt, but Matt, I thought your text was pretty well stated.

Civic media will be needed more than ever in the coming months and years as we need our local, accurate news.

How

can we, the people, support you guys?

Thanks for what you do.

Wow, that's great.

Yeah.

We'll give him our bank accounts in just a few moments.

Okay.

Oh, oh, the station's bank account.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

Wow.

Didn't you predicted it?

You predicted

all of this, John.

Well, thank you.

You

predicted

the chaos and confusion and fear and the uncertainty, the hatred.

You predicted it all.

I wish we had a Sir Topham hat clip that we could play, you know, as you two guys have created.

Anybody remember Sir Topham hat?

You've told me who this guy Thomas the tank Thomas the tank.

Yeah, he's the guy in charge and he's never happy with the engines Never that's the thing.

That's why he's known for this particular line.

Do you have that for you two guys?

Yeah, I'm trying to look for it right now in a second.

All right

Topham hat.

Yeah, okay Okay

Dom

is

continuing to look here.

There's only about seven cuts.

You can pick any one.

But it's OK.

All right.

Anyway, I want to go to the first story here in idiocracy.

And that is FCC chair Brendan Carr.

We're going to kind of review some of the things that happened last week because they're very, very important in what they say.

Brendan Carr said Sinclair Broadcasting has every right to demand that Jimmy Kimmel donate.

to Turning Point USA.

This is the FCC chair telling Kimmel that it wouldn't be bad if he donated a little money, a little scratch.

Really?

I'm just like, what?

This is extortion.

Extortion.

Yeah.

Let's listen to cut 133.

Okay.

According to the New York Times, late Wednesday, I'm just quoting here, Sinclair, another owner of many local TV stations, said that it would also suspend Mr. Kimmel's program and call on Mr. Kimmel to apologize and make a meaningful personal donation

to

Mr. Kirk's family, the activist political group turning point USA.

Do you think that's an appropriate remedy of the situation?

Yeah, what do you think?

I think Sinclair has every right

to call for that again.

What?

Sinclair affiliates with Disney, they take Disney contract, they have a contractual relationship

with

Disney, and that's between the two of them to figure out, you know, what's gonna make sense to make both of them comfortable with the relationship going forward.

But again, over the years, it would be unthinkable for Sinclair, for Nexstar, for local TV stations to actually say, you know what?

You know, we're not going to take this particular programming that's coming out of New York and Hollywood and

send this

to Pennsylvania and Utah.

And so the idea that local broadcasters feel like they can push back, I think it's a much, much healthier dynamic for the country right

now.

Anything in that makes sense.

Nothing.

That is, yes, you know, if we just had a little more extortion from the TV stations around the country, maybe those networks would tow the line a little bit.

Can you imagine them trying to please, you know, all the network affiliates in the country?

Well, I don't like this program.

Could you pay us a little money and then we'll, we'll put it on.

We're okay with it.

This is the FCC chair and this is the guy this is Brendan Carr right who wrote that section on broadcasting in project 2025 This is the guy and this is their plan and they're rolling it out folks

Unstoppable scary all right now everybody's talking about how you know they were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk actually the celebrations weren't really celebrations they were people who disagreed with Charlie Kirk and said so and even quoted some of the lines that Charlie Kirk is given over the years that's not a celebration but that's the way they're describing it okay but wait a minute let's look in the mirror let's look back at the

at the Megas.

I say Benny Johnson lied about Kirk's killer.

Made the whole thing up.

But he's on cable saying what he wants to say about the killer, that he's laughed, that it's a liberal.

This is their agenda, their killers, their murderers.

That left is a murder party.

Well, no one's saying, hey, you're lying.

You're exaggerating.

But they're calling us the liars.

All right, let's listen to this as cut 134.

This

is just a monumental shake up to the media landscape.

And on Monday, after all the questions we've gotten from the audience about Charlie Kirk and what happens now, where do we go from here?

Clearly things are changing and it's going to start with the media where a reckoning is happening right now, isn't it?

Yes, absolutely Robin.

Thank you for having me on any John.

I want to establish what Jimmy Kimmel did here because the left much like how they are trying to hide the fact that Charlie was politically assassinated by a Tran Tifa far left-wing No, see a path who hated Charlie and hated concern

none of that's

true And so with hate in his heart he inscribed and Tifa and far left-wing LGBT messaging on bullets and sent them downrange to murder

Charlie Kirk, they have tried to cover that up and part of the cover-up was using Jimmy Kimmel's platform to say that Charlie was killed by a MAGA conservative.

Now left-wingers are trying now to rewrite history and say that Jimmy Kimmel was fired for a joke that he told.

This is not a joke.

Jimmy Kimmel

said that Charlie Kirk deserved his assassination.

Jimmy Kimmel said that Charlie Kirk shares in the blame for his own assassination.

This is the commentary that Jimmy Kimmel made.

It is utterly and completely indefensible.

Jimmy Kimmel went on to then make fun of Charlie Kirk and make fun of President Trump, saying that he did not care about or love his friend.

And so I want to establish that this is not a joke, this is a lie.

Now ABC has a lavish broadcast license that is granted to them by the American taxpayer.

The American taxpayer pays money so that ABC News can be broadcast freely into millions of American

homes.

They have a responsibility.

To broadcast true information in the public interest.

It is a legally binding contract

And

so a Jimmy Kimmel misinforming his audience not only does he victim blame Charlie Kirk and say that Charlie Kirk deserved to get a politically assassinated

No, he never so

lying to his audience thus creating a safe environment for other conservatives other turning point activists

exactly

for you or me he's saying that we deserved it and more importantly that if you go and kill a Trump supporter that he will cover for you

that the left can go murder Trump supporters and Jimmy Kimmel will go and whitewash it for you so that you don't get any blame and his side doesn't get any blame.

That's what

Kimmel did.

All right, all right, all right.

Okay, enough.

I've had so, I've way too much of that guy.

I mean, that is all crap.

It's just ridiculous stuff, right?

Yeah.

It's just the thing here is that obviously he's lying about the killer He's lying about what Kimmel was doing and putting a target at all talk show right-wing talk show host, you know Not happening and of course he can go over the top.

He can say anything he wants and he's on cable and Therefore there is no public interest that he has to serve.

It's not like over the air

TV stations, right?

Yeah.

And the thing is with TV stations, they have a public service.

They have to have a public service, a public, you know, some, I can't remember.

Anyway, it's a public service.

You're from TV.

Yes.

You know what?

There's a requirement from the FCC for over-the-air broadcasters that they have to serve the public interest.

Community.

Yes.

Community.

Um,

I struggling to come up with the phrase to but it is a public interest and here's the point of that They take care of that usually during the week.

They give away hours.

They put hosts on they cover community Yeah Events right that is their public service.

They get rid of all of that on the weekends and during the week It's network programming that does not have that particular agenda.

You can't required

24 seven every second of the day of these broadcasters to do that right by the way, who was that?

We were that was Benny Johnson.

Benny.

He's a

podcaster.

Okay, very good.

He's the guy who got this whole thing started with the FCC, Brendan Carr.

Believe it or not, the administration has taken advice from

podcasters.

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A little bit of patchy fog during the early going and temperatures in the upper 50s.

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Got a text in here from Doug.

We haven't heard from Doug very

much

lately in Saint Francis.

We were talking, I can't remember what the subject matter was, but we mentioned that.

We thought he quit.

Well, he thought he quit, and then we'd mentioned some other unofficial program director.

Oh, yeah.

But Doug says, wait, you have more than one unofficial program director?

I thought I was not only the only one, but also the most unofficial.

Wow.

So Doug's got a little, he's

got a problem with that.

A little bit of security there.

Actually, those who text us are the program directors.

They're guiding this whole program.

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I

want to get to something that I promised I would get to it only because I have two Gen C's at home, and they're both gamers.

One little more into gaming, but I thought I'd ask them,

Who is this Tyler Robinson guy?

You know, now we heard.

Oh, we heard a shooter.

Benny Johnson say who he was, but it was all absolutely inaccurate.

He's not on the left.

The thing here is Tyler Robinson is like other Gen Zers who game.

It's confusing, it can be confusing.

I want to read a statement from Michael Centers.

He's a PhD candidate at Virginia Tech.

He has the aspect program out there, and he focuses on the translation of online culture in real world politics, who by the way reflects my own son's interpretation, by the way, so that's why I'm reading it.

He said of 22 year old Tyler Robinson's political stance,

What he was doing here with this act was very performative.

He was performing internet culture, a specifically mass shooting culture in general, with the etchings on the shell casings being memes, with the joking about having a manifesto.

It's all very performative in that regard.

And he also says he worries that the duration

of discussion about Robinson might tell someone who is looking to make their name on this online shooter space, then maybe a target, a political target, is now better than a mass shooting situation because it gets more attention and people talk about it for a longer period of time and it seems to make major social commentary.

So that's his interpretation that is actually my older son's interpretation So they're really you know again is no specific agenda.

It is more a gaming culture

Well, you know and don't you think these I mean this kid is 22 years old.

Yeah,

and he's Mentally or emotionally troubled.

I'm not sure how attached they are to any political

Exactly.

Exactly.

You know, you're right.

It's a gaming culture kind of thing.

And they're not, I mean, they could change day to day what their political affiliation is.

It seems to me, you know, just looking

from the outside.

And specifically, of course, you know, he had a relationship with a person in transition.

Yeah.

So he felt sympathetic to that individual and maybe that's what prompted him to do what he did.

We don't know.

Right.

Benny Johnson doesn't know.

But this is all speculation, but again, it's the gaming culture that may be at the root of all of this not that we're gonna get rid of gaming Okay, just to let you know let's go to the phones right now.

We've got Charles from Milwaukee.

Good morning Charles.

What do you got for us?

Hey, good morning guys.

I'm not sure what show Benny Johnson was watching I I was baffled by the things that he said that

Kimmel supposedly said like wow like maybe maybe that was a pre-recorded show that he was able to view and then they scrapped that one and had Jimmy come out and say I'm like wow like I hear him say all of that crazy stuff about Charlie Kirk even say anything really about Charlie Kirk.

His main thing was that this guy was brought up as a conservative.

And like Donald Trump does, Donald Trump cares about nobody.

That's why when they ask him that question about, you know, how do you feel about your friend?

And he gave a quick answer and then he started talking about this massive ballroom.

And I still say it's weird, guys, that we have not seen anything from this young man, nothing from his social media space, nothing.

And everything is really hearsay.

We haven't heard them find, usually reporters are always trying to find family members or whatever.

We haven't seen them put the microphone in anybody's face about this young man.

This is all what they're telling us.

They could get on TV right now and say, Russia is bombing

us.

I wouldn't believe it unless I saw planes dropping bombs.

I don't trust anything this administration says.

Everything that we're getting is

what they're telling us.

And we know that all they do is lie every time their, their mouths open.

It's gaslighting

constantly.

Yeah.

I mean, we haven't seen anything from this young man's social media footprint yet.

Right.

That's why I don't, I don't believe anything that they say.

Um, I believe there's more to this story.

I'll ask you guys, this of you guys know where this event took place at where Charlie Kirk was shot and killed.

Did they always have events there?

Because my question, I asked them because they say that this young man supposedly organized this shooting that far away within a week's time.

So that's why I asked, did they always have events at the same location?

Or how did he know that it was going to be at this location and David had stood up within a week's time?

That's probably a designated area, Charles.

We've got to go run up against the break here, but thanks for the call.

After we check in with news and weather, we'll be back and reveal today's very first, go for the green and gold text to win word.

The keyword is coming up.

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