Ringo Starr is Making a Comeback? (Hour 1)

Yes, it is.

Double coffee.

Checking down a cup of coffee this morning.

It's John and

Gordy.

Good morning to you.

Happy Monday.

Rise and shine.

Shake a leg up and at them.

Top of the morning to you.

Here it is, September 15th.

And it's nice and clear out there.

61 degrees.

Highs today in the low to mid 80s.

Yeah, it's going to warm up nicely.

Yeah.

Beautiful out there.

Yeah, really is.

I mean, this is a great week.

I understand it's gonna start getting cold again.

I have a birch tree out in the yard that is half yellow at this point.

Is that so?

Yeah, some of the oak leaves are starting

to turn as well.

Yes.

Yeah, and it's supposed to be warm the next three days in the low to mid 80s and then cool down at the end of the week.

And

sunny, no rain in the forecast.

I'm

keeping my fingers crossed on that.

We power washed some of the wood on the stairway going up to the upstairs deck and I was just like, oh please don't rain, don't rain, I gotta coat it with a certain kind of sealer.

It encapsulates the wood.

It's not the normal everyday kind of sealer you use for decks.

Really?

Yeah.

It's a different kind.

Pressure treated wood.

It's a better kind

of sealer.

It's much different.

Yes.

It's kind of a resin.

And it absorbs into the wood and encapsulates it.

It's great stuff.

It's really terrific.

But you got to have really dry wood for that.

And after you pressure spray it, it gets pretty moist.

OK.

So it's in the process of drying out now.

It is.

You haven't

put the sealer on yet.

Oh, darn it.

What?

Got to take the garbage cans out this morning.

What?

I was going to do

that.

Well, you've got the two boys at home.

I mean, you know, they're in their young 20s, mid 20s.

They could take the garbage cans out just once you call them up.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

Let's

call them right

now.

Yeah.

Wake them up.

Are

they

still up or do they stay up

all night still?

My younger one does not on Mondays Tuesdays and Wednesdays because he works on those days

So he has

to get a normal night's sleep.

So no, he isn't up right now.

The other one is probably up I don't know but if you're up coal take the garbage out Both of them the recycle and the regular garbage.

Okay,

so you have it so

Both every week.

It's Monday

Monday.

We put

our

trash out both

cans or just

Yeah,

yeah

Yeah, and it's uh, it's one of those things where I have I threw away My dogs swimming pool.

Oh, no.

Yeah, we treat her to a pool.

Yeah Big plastics you like hanging on a pool

That little prince.

Why'd you throw it out?

Well, she is very rough on it.

Oh, she seems to want to dig deep into the pool.

I see.

You know, the wave splash and the water splash is just fascinated by it.

And she yips, yips, yips.

And I hate that.

I don't know why she's doing that.

But she also puts holes in these pools and both of them had holes in it.

And I thought, well, it's fine.

It's finally time to crush them and put them in the garbage containers and they're sitting there.

Filling the garbage sink.

Are you gonna get get a new

pool for us?

We actually got a a simulated different kind of thing.

It's the kind of Plastic container that you mix cement in oh, okay into the very durable they're black sure and Kind of rounded on the edges ends rather and it's it's great.

I mean it's super no scratches from her

It's her pool now.

She loves hanging out at the pool.

She's taken off my arms a few times running toward the pool and I didn't notice it.

I'm thinking, oh my god, no.

I'm losing that one.

Producer Dominic Lee, how was your weekend?

It was pretty good.

I didn't really do much.

But what I can say on Friday, I went to IdeaFest and I actually got to shake hands with Tim Waltz.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, he passed by me and he said, I love what you're doing.

And he had no clue what I was doing there.

And we shook hands and went on our merry way.

And we're quite well known in Minnesota.

You can get this station anywhere, right?

Sure,

sure.

All over the globe.

And Tim might be listening right now.

Tim, welcome to this great state where we sell cheese all the time.

OK.

And, uh, John, how was Ringo Starr Friday night?

Uh-huh.

In Milwaukee.

Yeah.

Yeah, was that, uh, was that fun?

Yes, it was.

I know you're angry about it.

Good baby.

You know, I, you know, I didn't want to go and you would have gone.

You wanted to see.

Yeah.

Ringo Starr finally.

You've seen almost, uh, how, how have you seen?

Just Paul McCartney, right?

Just Paul McCartney.

Well, that's not just, uh,

that's great.

That was like

Paul McCartney.

2006 or 2007 somewhere in there.

at

the

United Center in Chicago.

I think I may be going to see him again.

He's in Chicago in November, if I can still get some tickets.

Wow.

So those are expensive tickets, I would say.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Not like they all start.

Too much.

Too much.

Yeah.

So how was the band?

How did it sound?

What did it look like?

How was

Ringo?

Well, Colin Hady, you know who he is?

Yes, he was in Men at Work.

Yes, Men at Work.

Right.

He was one of the guitarists and he played a

bunch of his

songs.

And Average White Band, the guitarist for that, I guess he wrote a few songs and played them as well.

So a little disco mixed in.

And then of course, one of the founding members of Toto was there also playing in Africa and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You're not a big Toto fan.

No, I'm not a big Toto fan.

You know, people may think that, you know, I'm a music snob.

You think?

Okay, let me just give you... So Steve Luthaker didn't impress you on guitar?

No, he was very impressive.

They're all very good musicians.

Oh, yeah.

But here's the thing, and by the way, Colin Hay still has that voice.

Yeah.

It's fantastic.

But okay, here's the reason why I don't like some bands like...

police and Eric Clapton and you know total Because it's not so much that they had bad songs or you know Whatever what is it?

I played them too much People requested they called in they requested these songs over and over and over to the point where I could not stand it anymore and Well, that was they still great on me

The, you know, some groups, I don't mind playing them, you know, I remember playing them, you know, are you a speed wagon?

I'll listen to that every once in a while, but I cannot stand the police, Eric Clapton and Toto.

You know, I was, I was telling Ann how, boy, it wasn't, it wasn't bad listening to Toto.

I told her that outside, you know, and this woman standing next to me goes, yeah, I felt the same way.

Well, what do you feel about like Boston and foreigner or some of these other groups that got played a ton?

Oh, I played those to death.

Yeah.

Um,

but you like, you know, I haven't heard Boston in a long time.

Really?

And I kind of, I

kind of like foreigner.

And only reason is because my kids returned.

onto it when they were watching Supernatural because Supernatural played a lot of those old rock songs.

Yeah, I enjoyed Forner still.

It's Molly Hatchett that got a question.

Molly Hatchett?

Okay.

But okay, back to Ringo though.

How was Ringo?

Because Ringo is the star of the show, literally speaking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

did you talk?

I sent you a little

clip video.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah.

Did you talk to Ringo?

Did you happen to catch his attention,

go backstage, flash

your Civic Media badge?

I was on the same level with him, but I never made it up.

to the stage, on the stage, and I didn't tackle

Ringo.

Well, did he talk to the audience?

Did he say hello?

Did he tell a little story or two?

He did,

and I think he was talking to me.

Could we go to the

phone?

Let's talk to Matt.

All right.

Matt, good morning.

What do you got for us today?

Morning, guys.

I was having a pretty good Sunday, having a day off, nice weather, hanging with my lady.

Trying to avoid the chaos of the world and then that night I get on YouTube bad idea Yeah, yeah Do you see the chaos in the Paul the Gen Z that pretty much toppled everything?

I think they even murdered a few people and they were quite gleeful as they Burn and trash parliament buildings and all this stuff.

Yeah,

that was

Phone-in speech tall these angry white people in the UK trying to stir up unrest there because he's a Bond villain But isn't that further proof that you should not have billionaire Yes, guy is insane.

He thinks he's good just completely unraveled societies wherever he wants wherever he thinks there's white men that are Insecure enough about their position in life that they'll pick up guns

Yeah, and now he's tweaking his grok to Fix it because people were able to ask grok what these statistics were for gun violence And of course it's 75% right-wingers that do

it.

Yeah,

he did not like that.

So now he's rewiring

that It's supposed to

be an

information source

not

a propaganda source i want to get rid of any source of actual free or or proper speech but as a white guy can i just say something all the white guys out there just relax okay just relax yeah yeah the brown people aren't gonna murder you in your home

They're just people

but

you know

you but you know Elon

is

gonna continue to stir the pot as he did I let me just tell you though last night or in the afternoon as well I was just sitting there trolling through X and I was responding to every one of these individuals who just don't get a clue now I'm not going to trash them for

Their loss, you know, a lot of people like Charlie Kirk that I understand that and it's really really horrific what happened But again, there are people saying really outrageously ridiculous things and I responded to them So and and Elon by the way was one of them and he still hasn't kicked me off.

So I'm pretty happy about that Okay.

Hey man, I got a I got a little presentation here.

I'm gonna make on the show here What do we got?

We got something for you here.

What is this?

Could you bring in that bag?

Oh, what do you got there?

What is this?

You got a little something for you at the concert for me at the Ringo concert.

What

is this?

Matt, you're witnessing this at home.

Oh,

well, peace and love, Ringo.

Yeah, that's

it right there.

Well, you know, I was born

at

Ringo stars birthday.

So that's

right.

We share birthdays, July 7th.

Yeah.

Well, that's very nice.

But that was a whole theme.

It was

peace and

love.

I mean, the whole place was a piece of love.

And I thought, that's it for me.

All right.

Well, I've never had a peace and love thing.

And I.

I think you deserve a nice tie-dyed t-shirt.

Well, thank you so much.

You can check it out right on YouTube.

Yeah, oh, it's beautiful.

Yeah, look at that.

Well, thank you very much.

Wow.

Appreciate that.

The only disappointment was that they didn't have the concert stops on the back, which I thought they did.

And then

I found out when I got home that I know I was

kind of disappointed with gray t-shirt, man.

That.

Thank

you.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, and

again, you

can check it out on the YouTube That's terrific man.

Yeah, we're

thinking of me.

Well, I had to get you one I know you were disappointed and not going to wringo and well on your birthday same day You know the whole thing here just kind of

if I if I get lucky and get some tickets

to McCartney, you know, maybe I'll return the favor.

Oh, yeah.

Maybe a

t-shirt or, you know, a key chain or something.

Did you want a face of Ringo or did you just, exactly?

I know what he

looks like.

That's what I thought, too.

Okay.

Hey, we're just getting going on Monday morning and back with Pam Yonkey next on John and Gordy in the Morning.

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Pam Yankee, good morning Pam.

How

are you?

Very fine fellas very fine.

I'm really sorry that I can't match the t-shirts offerings I could bring it we had yesterday We had the River food pantry sips and slices if I brought you a t-shirt from that chances are there'd be fingerprints with some kind of sauce all over it So I'll keep that for myself

Yeah, that's the problem with that, you know Okay, you know we kind of start off with the age of stupid

and we always talk politics when we bring that up, but let's bring it up in a way that isn't too political.

I will say that I'm not a big fan of the Department of Ag Secretary.

I don't think she understands Ag at all, and I don't think she's really helping the farmers at all, but that's my opinion.

Let's get to the point where now the Department of Ag has a problem with Wisconsin stockyards, livestock yards.

Yep, this is a Wisconsin gig.

I get your point on Brooke Rollins, our current USAG secretary.

This one is closer to home.

This is something that's going to impact potentially farmers no matter what they market.

So what the Wisconsin Department of Ag Trade and Consumer Protection is proposing are really, really escalated fees for the license that they give to the markets that sell cattle.

the people that truck the cattle from the farm to the market.

I'm not kidding yet.

I'll just ask you guys this.

If you got a bill in your house that went up 1,666%, I think that, well, first of all, I think you might require medical attention.

But, you know, the catch with this one is,

Farmers don't have a choice.

If the department decides that they're going to levy these fine, yeah, it's kind of a fine.

If they're going to charge these fees for their services, it really is like a fine.

I talked to Kurt Larson, who is the president and CEO of the Equity Livestock Sales Cooperative.

They must have, I want to say about 11 livestock yards where cattle are brought to a central location.

buyers come to that location, and that's where the business is transacted.

Well, if this fee goes into place, it goes from $400 a year per location to more than $7,000 per year for that same location.

Now, to you and I, that seems just absolutely ludicrous.

But they say that these rules have not been changed since 2009, and it's necessary to finance the program.

Kurt Larson has done a lot of work on the numbers.

He said that there is no justification in the hours that the Department of Ag staff is spending giving these licenses to justify that.

The other thing he said is a lot of this is about traceability.

Consumers want to know where an animal came from, what farm and all that.

And he said that's really a food safety issue that farmers are already dealing with by putting ear tags in their animals so they

you know where it's coming from by keeping really good records, especially in Wisconsin with all our dairy cows.

And he said in other states where this has become an issue, there are shared parties.

that split divvy these license fees.

So this is this I'm telling you this is a dust up in a big way.

I've heard from a lot of livestock producers that are just vehement about this because the fees are going to get passed on to the farmer and they're saying hey wait a minute we already are doing our part spending money on ear tag spending money on records spending money on all the traceability stuff at the farm.

Somebody better help split the fees and we are just if these go into place we are obnoxious

over compared to neighboring states like Minnesota, Iowa.

They've managed to figure out a way to work these programs without fleecing quite literally the farmers of the livestock yard.

So the hearings are Tuesday and Wednesday at one o'clock at the Department of Ag Trade and Consumer Protection up on, we used to call it Bill's Hill, Bill Walton gave the land to the department and off agriculture drive.

They're also being held virtually.

And man, I'm banging the drum.

to try to tell any farmer of any type, better stay engaged in this conversation or when you get your next receipt on a cost for sending your livestock to the yard, you are going to be shocked beyond what you normally are when it comes to those bills.

So this puts Wisconsin

on a disadvantage then, dramatically with the other states.

Yeah.

Well, you know and your points will take in if it's gonna cost me that much to do it in Wisconsin How much farther do I have to take the animals?

Yeah to get to a state where the fees are not so Absorbent and that that's just not that's not good.

That's not good for a whole lot of Wisconsin's Agriculture infrastructure, so and I'll be honest with you normally the Department of Agriculture in at in Madison has Got open ears, but man, I am getting you know, even me

They're giving me pushback.

And that crap, frankly, boys, just doesn't happen to me anymore these days.

What do you mean you're not going to talk to me?

You only got me to talk to.

So yeah, it's been an interesting story to follow.

And I'm on this one like flies on stink.

OK, well, OK, we'll see how that plays out.

Pam, we only got about a minute or so left.

But I wanted to ask you about this worker's strike at a cheese plant in Monroe over immigration.

What happened there?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to give it to you in the boiled down version.

So what happened that a cheese making plant down in Monroe ownership change, owners came in and said, OK, I want every one of my workers to be verified and the workers went on strike.

So there's more to the story.

We'll get to it later this week.

But the bottom line is if the cheese plant is selling cheese to the government.

all of their employees have to be verified through the system.

That would be the e-verification system.

And those employees just said no.

flat out.

This has not been a part of our operating contract in the past.

We don't want it to be a part of our current operating tract.

And that's kind of a quandary.

So the Wisconsin cheese makers are watching this one closely and we can follow up and see if there's any developments when we talk Friday.

Sounds good, Pam.

We got a run.

Thank you so much.

Midwest Farm Report coming up next.

John and Gordy on a Monday morning.

Coming right

back.

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

What an idiot.

The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

What?

What the

f*** is going

on around here?

Holy s***.

Idiocracy for the smartest guy in the world.

You're pretty dumb sometimes

And it's all the time it seems and it's getting harder and harder to deal with each and every day I go through all this stuff and I become depressed Curl up in the corner of my living room

and then you call

me and I call you

And

I try to talk to you through it.

Talk me through it.

I talk you off the ledge.

It's OK.

It's going to be all right.

We'll get through it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's pretty much happens every single day.

Get a little tired of it, but that's 500 episodes later.

We're still here.

That's

why we're

here.

We're trying to package it in a way that it doesn't make you want to give up too.

Okay.

Trying to hold everybody's hand.

All right.

Getting back to this Ringo thing.

Anna in Madison says she's going to Las Vegas to see Ringo there.

Yeah, on the 24th of September.

And it was

a

lot of fun.

Ringo star, of course.

What is your 85?

Something

like that?

Let's see.

I'm doing the math here.

Yes, I think he is 85.

Yeah.

He's 13 years older than me.

85 did

never know it.

You never know it.

And the thing he was doing, jumping jack.

I

saw that.

He sent me video of him doing jumping

jacks.

Yeah, he's in great shape.

Well, you know, I'm starting my jumping jack routine at home now.

That's good.

Good deal.

You know, he's got a few years on me, but not that many.

And I'm

thinking, well, you know, I've got to be able to do

that when I'm 85, as

far as

I'm concerned.

It's John and Gordy on 92.7 WMDX along with our producer Dominic Lee and weather today 83 for a high.

It's going to be nice and sunny all day right right now clear skies and 61 degrees.

I want to direct you to the new poll question that we have up on WMDX radio.com.

Here's the question.

Have you seen the question?

No, I have not.

What part of the belt line has the worst traffic when it gets really busy?

What part of the Beltline?

Gammon to Mineral Point to Old Sock Road, that's gotten 0% so far.

Yeah, just the pole just don't go far with that.

Midvale Boulevard to Verona Road, Todd Drive, Fish Hatch, kind of the heart of the Beltline on the west side anyway.

That's the worst part.

That's at 33%.

John Nolan Drive to the Interstate, that's also at 33%.

That can be.

It's all backed up in that area.

Yeah.

Oh, somebody must have just voted.

That just changed.

Okay.

Uh, the entire belt line sucks when it's busy.

That gets 25%.

That's kind of your out question there.

Okay.

So I

do have a pet peeve part of the belt line.

It's from university avenue to, uh, old sock.

Oh, for some reason, there's never a reason why it's slow.

You know, it's like 25, 15 miles per hour.

There's no reason for it.

There's no big trucks.

There's no one.

stopped up on the side of the road.

Well that's right by your house isn't it?

Yes it is.

Well they're slowing down to see if they can take a look at your place.

Now where John Peterson lives right behind those woods over

there.

He likes to go fast but we're gonna show him so everybody drives real slow there just to

get even with me.

That's right at the big west side curve there kind of right or coming out of the curve.

Yeah going north.

Well

I don't

know.

It's not by the curve.

That would be old sock to

damn and yeah,

and that's where it clears up a little bit And that's

why

you know that there's really nothing Blocking anybody.

There's no way that these people should be driving slowly, but

they like to do it anyway Well around the traffic jam time at you know 3 34 o'clock 4 30 I think a lot of people are getting on the Beltline from University Avenue going north right up to sock

So that's probably why they get slow.

Well, it's slow going south.

Well, yeah, it's both directions.

Anyway, that's our poll question.

You can check it out at wmxradio.com.

OK.

Yeah.

What else is happening in idiocracy?

Well, idiocracy, they get stupider and stupider.

This time, Trump is threatening to call a national emergency.

This is a big deal.

A national emergency to justify taking control of Washington, DC.

I mean,

a

national emergency because he is not.

Maintaining control of DC at this point because

the city's

mayor and the district's police Would not cooperate now with immigration and customs officials.

Mm-hmm.

So he is threatening to take over the city by declaring a national Emergency not I don't know I've been reading

and hearing that DC is incredibly safe now.

You

know, people can

finally go off to dinner.

But they never could before.

He took the cabinet out to dinner last week.

That's right.

Just declaring how safe it was.

How safe it is.

Yes.

And now he wants to declare a national emergency to be the king of Washington DC.

I think that's really what it's all about.

Well, they've put up some barricades lately in DC around the, you know, fences are coming back up.

Trump had 30 days to do whatever he wanted to do.

Now he is not in control and the DC police, the mayor saying, go away.

We've had enough of you.

The Humvees, the troops, go away.

Enough.

In fact, they didn't even patrol the dangerous parts of the city.

They just went to the safer parts, which is a little easier.

I guess you can pick up the garbage there and maybe more of the mediums.

That's what they had the National Guard do.

Really?

Yes.

Oh, God.

I think Governor Evers says if they want to come into the state and do that, that's fine.

But don't bother us.

OK, anyway, that's.

That's currently what's happening.

Let's go now to something last week and this is tied in with Charlie Kirk and NPR's Steve Inskiep talked to Joe Mitchell.

He's a mega candidate for Congress in Iowa and founder of Run Gen Z, a nonprofit with a goal of getting young conservatives into office.

Gee, just what we need.

He's also a Charlie Kirk influencer.

But a simple, even complimentary question from Steve Inskey, very an inoffensive guy, turned the interview a little bit nasty.

I want to play cut 83 here.

Listen, listen to how this just turns negative suddenly.

Okay, let's listen.

I talked with UW Madison Turning Point member and former chapter president RJ Hibben, seeing social media posts celebrating Kirk's death have terrified him.

Basically signifies to me that if I got shot working at a political event, they would cheer and they would be happy as well.

So it's frankly very, very scary.

That's it.

Yeah, that's it.

Well, that's not the cut.

You know, it just hasn't happened to us.

Right?

Yeah, we haven't had this

happen.

It

only happened during those times when Sam was around.

I think I do have one.

I think I found it though.

Okay, let's play it.

I'm thinking his public persona, Charlie Kirk's public persona is very well known at this point.

He was in public so much.

He was in front of people or on camera so much.

He made a lot of polarizing remarks about people who were different from him or had different views from him, but he also stood in front of people who disagreed with him and engaged with them and took their questions and criticisms and responded.

I'm just curious, having known him over a number of years, do you think that he learned or evolved in any way?

from his interactions with so many different kinds of people?

Steve, what remarks?

What are you guys talking about?

Because here's what happened, Steve, is that he was called a Nazi and hitler and a fascist for so many years.

And that's what led to the shooting yesterday.

And it's despicable what the news media is doing right now is saying that he was so decisive.

He said these things.

Charlie was the most kindest person in the entire world that I knew.

He believed in civic debate more than anybody else.

that I knew and so the rhetoric that's been spewed out in the last 24 hours is what led to the shooting yesterday in the execution in the assassination of Charlie Kirk and it makes me just sick to my stomach what's happened and so people need to get a hold of the rhetoric they need to understand that

what they say as implications,

and

that's what happened yesterday.

Okay, well, we're gonna have to leave it there.

We'll continue the discussion another time, I hope.

Joe Mitchell is the founder of Run Gen Z and is a Republican candidate for Congress in Iowa.

Thanks.

It's

like a really good question,

I thought.

Yeah, it was very balanced question.

Did he learn anything in

the

exchanges that he had with

the public, right?

Yeah.

And boy.

Got

very defensive.

Yes, very defensive.

You really can't speak to these individuals about Charlie Kirk.

It offends them.

They truly believe he is a world leader of some sort, right?

I mean, they've been putting pictures of him in.

They've inserting him in between John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr.

You know, everybody.

these great leaders and suddenly Charlie Kirk is in there, I really don't think so.

Well, he had the turning point to organization for 13 years and since he graduated high school, I mean, so it's been a long time in that world.

I don't think he's a world leader, but as you're probably watching the story unfold

all around the world.

There are protests, there's support groups, there are protests in support of Charlie Kirk.

So he really was kind of incredibly important to a particular audience.

Yeah.

Well, and while the internet audience, I mean, that he grew very, you know, to a huge degree.

Yeah, his network was good.

And his

studio was real nice, which, you know, wish we had just some of that equipment.

Okay, let's go to the phones.

Mark is on the line here with the comment.

Yes.

Good morning, Mark.

You know, Charlie Kirk's death was indeed tragic.

But let's not set aside the point that he did make slightly divisive comments.

I mean, that coming about the pilot, you know, if I saw a black pilot, I would think he was not qualified to be there.

You know, if a DEI made him the pilot that he was, or that, you know,

especially the black women aren't as intelligent as everybody else.

I mean, a lot of these comments, I mean, come right out of, you know, could have been echoed by, you know, that Alexander Stevens from his cornerstone speech, that, you know, the firm position of people of color is supposed to be, you know, as servants or slaves.

And with the tanning decision, you know, Dr. Scott, I mean, which actually said that, you know, that black people have no, you know,

should have no rights really at all i mean that any any white person should actually respect them in that he didn't say come out and actually say that but i mean some of his comments were actually that these people are indeed inferior in intelligence and uh... you want to repeal the fourteenth amendment you know that uh... citizen helpers uh... you're born in this country your citizen and probably the voting rights part of the the fourteenth amendment that you put i think he opposed voting rights act that uh...

some of the stuff i mean that and look up for a guy who did not graduate college you know that has you know gained that you know he dropped out of college i think is blast i'd read and that uh... you know can like scott walker and it was able to ride the wave you know that uh... you have these prejudices and find an audience with these prejudices always had an audience for you know since the fall in the republic and sent you know that uh... maybe built into humanity's genes that were supposed to know that uh...

Yeah, well he

took advantage of the campus free speech movement and that's where he slid into that.

He did well, but I have a story here, and I'm going to get to it after a break.

I appreciate the call mark about Charlie Kirk's threat to teachers

and professors in college.

We'll get to that in just a moment.

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Back to

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here.

I have this story about Charlie Kirk, a journalist and college professor Stacy Patton.

posted a viral powerful statement about Charlie Kirk's digital hit list.

Listen to this.

I am on Charlie Kirk's hit list.

His so-called professor watch list run under the umbrella of Turning Point USA is nothing more than a digital hit list for academics who dare to speak the truth to power.

I landed there in 2024 after writing commentary, then inflamed the mega faithful.

And once my name went up,

Again, this is the doxene thing that Republicans hate so much, the harassment machine roared to life.

For weeks, my inbox and voicemail were deluged.

Mostly white men spat venom through the phone.

They called her a bitch, a C-word, an N-word.

They threatened all manner of violence.

They overwhelmed the university with calls demanding that I be fired.

And she added, Kirk's watch list has terrorized legions of professors across the country, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse, death threats, job threatens, some left academia completely.

So that's just a little part of his legacy.

Let's

go to

CJ.

I just have CJ react to this particular element of Charlie Kirk's agenda.

Good morning CJ.

Go ahead.

Morning gentlemen.

Thanks for taking my call.

You know, this has started a wildfire.

The church was packed yesterday gentlemen with young

Colleges kids who are seeking speaking advice and the positive That Charlie projected Yeah 32,000 chapters have been requested so far for burning point UP USA beautiful.

It was amazing

You know, and last week I heard a lot of talk that Charlie doesn't believe in empathy.

He hates empathy.

But I know you guys can do a little research and I'm going to challenge you to read his entire quote instead of just a fraction of it.

And I

hope you'll do that

because he uses empathy versus sympathy.

There's a difference.

So please do some research and be honest with your listeners.

All

right.

But here, let me just correct you.

I think he doesn't like empathy.

He likes sympathy.

Okay.

I'm just, I'm, I'm just saying.

I remember I just saw that comment yesterday.

So I think he doesn't like the empathy part because, you know, remember liberals brought empathy a while back and boy, the right wing went nuts over empathy.

They hate empathy, but sympathy is okay.

There's a difference there, I guess.

But anyway, I do want to get to the point where you mentioned the churches were filled up or whatever.

This is Christian nationalism.

And that's what we're talking about

here,

right?

Do you think that we should be a Christian nationalist country at all?

CJ, on this, is that your opinion?

Do you think we should inform young elementary school students about the Bible and the lessons that are taught in the Bible, even some of the negative ones, even some of the horrific ones, some of the bloody, terrible ones?

Um, well, I think that's a little different subject.

Okay.

All right, different subject.

You know, this is worldwide guys.

I know.

I mentioned that.

I

mentioned that.

Yes.

It's amazing to see how big

a following he had.

It's a good

thing.

You know, the 10 commandments are a good thing.

I don't see too much in the 10 commandments that shouldn't be taught to our kids.

First at home, and in church, and at school.

If you folks have a problem with that,

You're going to reap what we're sowing right now.

Well,

here's my theory about the Ten Commandments.

I think that is just kind of inborn in human nature.

I don't think we need

the

Ten Commandments

to tell

us these things, you

know, and have a

little have a little fantasy story about, you know, the tablets.

You guys may consider it fantasy and that's OK.

That's your right.

It's OK.

It's OK.

But yeah, but there are lessons and Dr Seuss to more than the hatred that's taught in colleges today.

No, on the airway.

So there's no hatred on the right,

right?

There's no hatred.

It's all love and peace on the right.

Exactly.

I'm not saying one one side owns it.

And that's what the wet.

That's where you guys go to run, you know, no, I'm just bringing it up.

I'm just bringing

it.

I'm not saying each side.

Because you don't want to hear the facts of how this young man got to the point Allegedly shooting Charlie for using the First Amendment.

I tell you what no one

is endorsing shooting

anybody

Here's the thing that bothers

me.

Okay, CJ, this is the part that bothers me most is that we are the party of murder, according to Elon.

Now here's the

thing.

We want to get rid of guns.

We want to get rid of guns.

We want safety in guns.

If we have guns in this country, put some safety in place on that.

We don't do that.

And who's stopping us from doing the right wing?

Who's the party of murder?

Who allows this

stuff to happen?

CJ thanks for that call.

We've got news straight ahead and more of John and Gordy in the morning in our next hour Amy Horak will join us from DJ Frank and also former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin and his take on the mood.

We've got more on Charlie Kerr coming up next hour too.

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Absolutely, all right.

I'd agree with

that.

We always get complaints, you know, about CJ calling, and boy, we shouldn't put them on the air, but I'm sorry, I enjoy getting...

The opposite size right getting all sides and and by the way talking to him I get to bring up some other things that I don't have repaired here, but I do want to at least get out there and So I I hope it works out.

I hope you don't mind too much We do like to get opposing viewpoints on this program.

Mm-hmm.

So before we get to a little clip package I put together of Charlie click Kirk

Well, let's go to the phones right now.

We've got Joe on the line.

Joe, what do you got for us?

Good morning, Joe.

Good morning, guys.

I just wanted to react.

You should try not to react to CJ, but I did think it was fascinating.

He was, you described, and it really is a useful piece for people to go back and listen to, women talking about the awfulness of being on Charlie Kirk's

hit list.

When

he

gave out to all of his followers, she talked about how she was getting death threats, she was getting calls on the phone where they were calling her the C word, in other words,

like that um you know i've had that in my life and for various reasons and i'm not going to go into them but the reason let me tell you it's scarier than all get out it is scarier than all get out because you don't know what the next step is and i would urge tj to think about the women in his life and think about how they would feel about an organized figure with a whole might of his organization and the money and the ability to get that message out

offers up a hit list against his women in his life.

How would you feel if somebody did that?

Was saying you should have death threats, C-word, lose your job, that sort of thing.

I mean,

and

then he goes on to say that, oh, it would, you know, great crowds in our Christian church today.

He had a line that was just so revealing.

And of course he has no awareness, so it's not going to penetrate.

But he said, you guys are going to reap what we're going to sow.

Boy, how Jesus likes.

Boy, that really sounds very Christian to say that.

You know, avenging angels and all, our way or the highway.

You know, some introspection would be a wonderful thing from CJ and the people that are in that camp, but I don't see it.

And I guess I would say to him, think about it if it was your daughter.

Think about it was your sister, your wife, hearing that kind of stuff, being on a hit list.

You okay with that?

I guess so.

Yeah.

Thanks a lot, you

guys.

All right, Joe.

Thank you.

Joe, thank you for the comments.

Yeah, that was Stacey Patton as the journalist and college professor who wrote this piece about the Kirk watch list for professors out there.

And she also wrote this, Kirk sent the loud message to us, speak the truth and we will unleash the mob.

That is the culture.

of violence.

Charlie Kirk built.

He normalized violence.

He curated it.

He monetized it and sicked it on anyone who dared puncture his movements lies.

I want to play a little bit of Charlie Kirk here.

This is cut 92.

If we could get, oh, I tell you what, should we get to Charles?

Yeah, let's go to the phones.

Charles is on the line here.

Good morning, Charles.

Go ahead with your comment.

Hey,

Kate.

Good morning, guys.

Great, great show so far.

So

I think people are getting some things mixed up just because a person doesn't come out and use the n-word Doesn't mean that they're not a racist Charlie Kirk had thoughts of black people not other people as well, but I'm a black man So speaking on black people he had his thoughts on black people those thoughts were racist thoughts Yes, they were that I've never heard him say anything about well if I ever go into an airport and I see a

White pilot, I'm wondering if they're qualified enough.

When I see a black pilot or a female pilot, I get excited because it makes me, it brings me to a point that everything doesn't have to be a white man.

And somewhere we've lost that in society as well as just because he had a lot of people following him.

Jim Jones had a lot of people following him twin.

We see how that ended.

Um, and I'm tired of people like CJ and other conservatives that always try to We hear these things guys.

I last checked my hearing is okay So I hear the things that are coming out of Charlie Kirk's mouth out of Trump's mouth and we always have these people that want to say well This is what they really miss.

Yeah.

Yeah, not what we heard But this is what they really we heard what they said

We heard Brian kill me, say that they need to just kill mentally ill homeless people.

Give me one Democrat or liberal or person that has said we should just go out and kill people because they're making the cities look bad.

We should just round them up and kill them.

Well, Charles, now that you mentioned it, I have a clip here.

Let's play this real quick.

It's a short clip.

You brought this up.

This is Fox's Killmeade, suggesting just that.

Let's listen.

This is cut 96.

Cut 96.

Let's listen.

Here we go.

They have given...

billions of dollars to mental health and the homeless population.

A lot of them don't want to take the programs.

A lot of them don't want to get the help that is necessary.

You can't give them a choice.

Either you take the resources that we're going to give you, and or you decide that you're going to be locked up in jail.

That's

the way it has to be now.

Or involuntary lethal injection or something.

Just kill them.

Brian, why did it have to get to this point?

There

you go.

Right, Charles.

That proves our point right

here.

And they just skipped over that.

Someone saying, let's just kill other humans.

It baffles me, but the one thing that Republicans are good at in that messaging, they keep repeating the same thing, the same thing, the same thing.

I was an educator for 18 years.

I've never heard a teacher tell a kid to hate somebody else, to hate themselves.

I went to college, my kids went to college, I had friends that went to college.

I've never heard a college professor trying to tell kids to hate, but they always talk about indoctrinating.

Well, if you're telling us that we need to send our kids to religious schools, what is that saying?

In other words,

it's indoctrination.

Yes, because if you don't believe in the Jesus that we believe in, then you're evil.

Yeah.

Well, I'm going to prove your point.

I got a clip package here I put together and

Charles, thanks for the call.

And I know that and I know CJ brought this up and is where Charlie is, you know, saying that he's not racist and he's proved this point over and over.

He's given money and help to those people who are African-American.

I get it.

I've seen those clips, but on the other end of it, he's got other clips where he's not so kind to African-Americans.

Let's listen to this is cut 92.

I know what you're thinking.

We got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run up against Kami.

Oh my goodness.

Is she is she beatable?

It's like black Hillary on steroids.

Black.

Is she black?

I guess she says she's Caribbean or whatever.

It doesn't matter.

She is.

What?

She gives these speeches and it just has this aura of totalitarianism.

I mean Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's.

corrupt tyrant kind to say

that

honestly be put in prison and or given the death penalty for his crimes against America her daughter all of a sudden came home and said I'm a boy and the whole assembly line the conveyor belt was started to grind they wanted to give her cross-sex hormones they wanted to give her testosterone therapy they wanted to cut off her breasts these job these doctors need to be put in prison quickly we need to have

a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor.

We need it immediately.

They have no regard for the process for legal immigration.

And at what point do we use real force?

You have to be willing to do it.

We're the only superpower on the planet where we just allow people to run over.

Why do we have a military?

Why do we have men with guns if we can't use them?

If you enter, we have lethal force and we're willing

to use it really the one issue i think that is so against our senses so against the natural law and dare i say a throbbing middle finger to god is the transgender thing happening in america right now a woman shall not wear a man's garment nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak for whoever does these things as an abomination

So there's a lot of things that have changed in American society.