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We'll talk to him in a little while in our second half hour here.
It is a chilly start this morning, a little bit on the cool side, 44 degrees now, highs just getting into low 60s today.
Definitely feeling like fall.
How do you dress for something like this?
I think isn't the dome going to be closed?
Well, that's up to them.
Yeah, they're going to keep it open.
Yeah,
with us.
Yes, he is.
Tom,
We're going
him along with us.
Yeah, I guess,
Well, you don't get to complain about the heat, as much as you do.
And then when it gets down below, what is your, what's your window?
60 to 65.
That's, that's loud.
Anything below 60, anything above 65, you're going to complain.
I, I guess you're right.
Just bring a jacket.
Still, still
You're bringing four pairs of listeners to this game.
You better be there, and you better be happy about it.
Don't embarrass us.
OK.
I'll try not to.
Have fun.
OK.
We've got a baseball game for a job.
had a chance to
denounced the effectiveness of vaccines and ended almost all research for vaccines.
Unbelievable.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced the creation of a state level make America healthy again.
And it's a commission modeled after the similar initiative.
that RFK Jr.
put in place.
And the shocker of them all?
Well, I'll tell you what.
Let's let Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladopo
Break the news over and over and over again.
This is a longer clip, but you know what?
Well, we can it emphasizes just how insane this individual is.
He is the surgeon general down there in Florida Department of Health and this is his point of view on this and it is so amazing.
Let's just listen to it.
Okay
All
right.
What I'm most excited about is, is an announcement that we're going to make that we're making now, which is that the Florida Department of Health in partnership with the governor is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates.
And by the way, this is
idea.
Every last one of them.
Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery.
What?
Who am I as a government?
or anyone else or who am I as a man standing here now to tell you what you should put in your body.
Who am I?
doctor.
To tell you what your child should put in your body.
I don't have that right.
Yes you do.
Your body is a gift from God.
What you put into your body.
What you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and your God.
I don't have that right.
Yes, you do.
Government does not have that right.
They want you to believe they have that right.
And unfortunately, hell, they've been successful.
They've been successful.
Pretty much every state has them.
It's wrong.
It's immoral.
They do not have the right to tell you what you put in your body.
They don't have the right to tell you what your kids have to put in your body.
They do not have the right.
Do not give it to them.
Take it away from them.
And we're going to be starting that here in Florida.
And I love our lawmakers.
Obviously, they make the machinery of our laws, our governor reviews.
We work in collaboration with science.
I love our lawmakers.
They're going to have to make decisions.
Right?
And I am telling you right now that, you know, the moral side is it's so simple.
No one has that right, guys.
People have a right to make their own decisions.
Informed decisions.
You want to put,
you know, whatever different vaccines in your body, God bless you.
I hope you make an informed decision.
You don't want to put whatever vaccines in your body.
He's got nothing new to say.
And I hope you make an informed decision.
And that's how it should be.
Yeah.
The
But you know, the thing is you affect everybody else around you.
So if you're carrying a disease that's transmittable, then you're in danger of, you know, of, you know, getting other people sick.
Right.
So you don't want that.
And here's the thing, you know, they've got so many amusement parks in Florida, you know.
All the kids go to Florida.
To these amusement parks.
Now they don't have immunization anymore in Florida.
Or they won't anyway when they pass this.
And then they'll be carrying diseases.
all across the United States after going to Florida and mixing in with the Florida children who have no vaccines whatsoever and are carrying every disease possible to man.
Diseases we have completely gotten rid of in this country.
Measles, that's still on the rise,
So I don't know, my head just splits open, but this guy, he is really just crazy.
He's a crazy person put in charge of this.
But you know, the thing I noticed here, and then I jotted this down, Megas have not just put kids on the front line in the culture war.
Now they're sacrificing them for their own anti-science party agenda.
And it's all led by Trump and RFK Jr.
at this point.
This is the logical extension of where you go.
with RFK Junior in charge, putting down vaccines.
Now we have a state that is saying we're getting rid of all the mandates for vaccines for children in schools.
Just amazing stuff.
No grand
now.
We missed the obvious.
We could have shared the love of a
Well, where did you get that shirt?
I
I
The guy started running away.
Right.
He ran.
They'd set the troops after him.
They were like 20.
20 guys chasing him down the street.
And Pam Bondi is just determined to put this guy in jail for a felony.
So we got another text here from Tim.
He says, hey guys, through the wonders of the Civic Media app, we are listening live from Munich, Germany this morning.
Wow.
Good morning, German.
According to one Florida Democrat, they said that this is a public health disaster in the making for the Sunshine State.
Do you think?
DeSantis said, we want to stay ahead of the curve.
Ahead of the curve?
Okay.
Curve I want to be on.
No.
And the state MAHA commission, get this, will eliminate medical orthodoxy.
that is not supported by the data and co-chaired by Florida's first lady, Casey DeSantis.
So this is a job for her, basically.
Yes, that medical orthodoxy, you don't want that.
We're getting government out of our lives, including healthcare and anything that can save your life.
The commission's work will help inform a large medical freedom.
Package that will be introduced in the legislature next session.
That's they're gonna make this law
Gordy in the morning.
WMDS.
Yeah.
Our number is 608-879-8255.
I know Dick is on the line.
Hang on, Dick.
We'll get to you in just a moment.
We've got Sunshine this morning here in Madison.
Let's check in with Brittany Merlot.
She's got the latest with what's going on with this really chilly air moving in.
It's in the low 40s this morning.
Brittany,
Yeah, right.
Let me just heat that up for you.
I am shivering a little bit.
I look out my window, I can see frost on the roofs, and I can see it on the tall grass as well, so.
We've dropped down in the mid 30s.
Do you have Christmas
a pretty much.
It's a bear crossing up north.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Speaking of up north, I think the first few flurries flew in northern Minnesota this morning towards the Boundary Waters, Ely area.
Yeah.
Wow.
Not real, not Wisconsin.
do, yes, in Ely, a fantastic town.
I love it there.
Have you guys ever been to the boundary waters?
What's it like?
Well, is it beautiful?
You go into the wilderness, gorgeous.
Absolutely gorgeous.
No motorized boats.
You can't even fly an airplane over it.
It is absolute remote wilderness, peaceful, but can be scary at times too, right?
yeah, after you spend time and you come back to Ely, Ely's like your first sign of civilization.
So Ely's a great town.
People love it.
No, we should go on an adventure there.
That would be a blast.
so that.
there.
I wore a bug jacket where you had to zip your face in.
Everything was zipped and they were hitting me so much that it sounded like on my jacket that it was raining outside.
Oh my God.
See, I told you.
I told you.
That's intense.
That's for sure.
But it's a story, right?
And it's pride if you come back alive.
have two up there and they'll sell it in Ely.
That's where I got it.
All
Yeah, so crisp and breezy, mostly sunny today highs in the mid sixties.
We do have another system moving in late tonight.
So chance of light drizzle maybe later this evening around six o'clock or so.
But the main rain will hold off till about midnight.
That's when those showers start to push in becoming widespread through the overnight.
A few spotty sprinkles could linger tomorrow morning, and then we're going to be left with another windy and crisp day tomorrow.
Highs only scrape about 60.
That'll be the coolest day.
Start to warm things up.
Saturday, sunny, low 60s, mid 60s by Sunday for the Packers game.
And then Monday, we'll hit 70 again.
Yes, it will actually no rain perfect 60s
No rain, calmer winds, tons of sunshine.
It'll actually be the calmest day.
Oh, that is funny.
She was wondering what that
That is good.
I like that shirt.
Yes, and Diana sent us a message here, a text on YouTube.
We moved back here from Florida because of the people reflected DeSantis.
As soon as DeSantis was re-elected, we decided I would retire early, and we moved back here.
After 11 years down there, it was the last straw.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder how many other people are of the same opinion.
Well...
After what I heard about five minutes ago or so, I should open with Ishnein Berliner, right?
Yeah,
It's off subject, but there's something fascinating I just looked up.
I knew that tariffs had something to do with screwing up the depression even more.
Yeah.
So I looked into it and, uh, I think it was called a snoop.
Holly.
Yeah.
Yep.
It was signed in 1930 and it just did nothing but wreak havoc.
I didn't know that long ago.
Factory started moving to Canada as a result.
Really?
Yeah.
Yes.
And it got even worse in that in some of the countries were even pushed off the cold standard for crying out loud.
This all happened in a two-year span from 1930 when it was signed to when FDR was elected.
And then his whole, you know, premise was, you have a little different angle on how to approach all these things luckily.
But, I mean, this guy was any student.
of history.
I'm talking about the present guy.
Right.
He might have known that.
But of course, he would have said, well, how could I have anything to do with Holly?
He wasn't even alive.
what
about.
Kind of fascinating to see it.
All right, dick.
minutes
It's
a mad pad.
It's beautiful out there, but a little bit on the chilly side starting out in the mid 40s, getting into the low to mid 60s later on today.
Idea Fest is happening.
Starts Monday, goes through Saturday and cap times.
publisher, Paul Fanlin joins us this morning to tell us more about this.
And there is a website you can go to to find out a lot of information, captimesideafest.com.
Good morning, Paul.
Good to have you with us.
Good morning, guys.
Big fan of you guys.
Thanks for having me on again.
tomorrow.
Okay, well, we start out Monday with
John Nichols, our associate editor, we'll be with Kate Shaw, who's a wonderful big thinker, law professor, someone who's clerked for Supreme Court justice and is a big figure in Washington.
She also happens to be married to Chris Hayes, the MSNBC Riley host who John works with.
And that'll be fun.
We've tried to over time bring in some younger speakers, people who kind of represent not my baby boom generation of political thinkers.
And Kate's one of those.
So she's at six Monday night.
It's followed by the great Maureen Dowd, the Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the New York Times.
She publishes in the Times on Sundays.
And she's often, you know, sometimes controversial, but always interesting.
And she'll be in conversation with her longtime friend, David Marinus, who of course is doing seven different moderations for us next week.
That's the first.
So that'll be a great conversation.
You know, a quick anecdote.
uh David Matt Marine uh David was working for the Washington Post Marine was working for the Washington Star which has has not existed for a long time covering the Maryland suburbs in the late 1970s and I was there I'd gotten out of graduate school and I was working for a newspaper called the Montgomery County Sentinel Montgomery County Maryland uh where Bob Woodward had worked uh before I before I got there and so I was in this press room that had all these
who knew all these future superstars?
Anyway, it'll be great to see her.
And I think that'll be a good discussion.
So
Well, Tuesday, there are other sessions.
We have virtual sessions.
We have sponsored sessions.
But I think for your audience, I'm going to point to the
the big ones, the big ones in Shannon Hall and the Memorial Union.
Tuesday night we have a first session with a couple of great Washington minds.
Jennifer Rubin was a longtime columnist for the Washington Post.
She resigned amid all the controversy around Jeff Bezos relationship and Norm Eisen is a longtime Washington lawyer.
He's been in the news recently representing
the person who's trying to be fired from the CDC so it's timely.
They created an online publication called The Contrarians and that's been existed for about a year and so they're first Tuesday night and then we're delighted to have Stacey Abrams from Georgia on our stage.
She was born in Madison.
Obviously, your audience knows she's a huge voting right activist and a major courageous figure in American politics.
great.
I
She's great.
She definitely is.
Yeah.
So that, you know, the interesting thing about Stacy Abrams, he also writes a lot of fixed books that are fiction.
So she's a, she's a kind of a Renaissance woman and it'll be fun to have
Yeah, let's find out
going on.
Well, Wednesday has a session with another young, brilliant journalist, historian named Garrett Groff, who
Marinus, who is moderating this session, thinks could be one of the most interesting because of his.
He's one of the important thinkers.
He does a pod, a newsletter called Doomsday Scenarios, which is around the topic of whether things are really as bad as they appear.
And he's also an author, has a new book on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
He'll be on first and Marinus thinks that's kind of a hidden gem that people won't recognize that name immediately.
And David said he's really looking forward to that.
After that, we have David with Tony Evers.
And I'm really looking forward to that.
You know, David surprised me by saying he had never met Tony.
is, of course, this icon, you know, local.
affairs.
And so I'm really looking forward to that conversation, kind of how the governor got to his decision not to seek a third term, the experience of being a bulwark for eight years against a gerrymandered Republican legislature.
So that should be a that should be a fun discussion.
He's great.
Well Thursday is kind of off the board at this point.
It's our celebration of journalism over at the Edgewater and it's a sellout at this point.
It's Marinus and Gene Robinson of the late of the Washington Post.
Now you can review it on YouTube after but the tickets are sold out for that so we probably want to move on to Friday.
Friday has
Another brilliant younger journalist, Evan Osnos, who works for the New Yorker.
He's lived in China, covered written books.
Just a brilliant guy.
He's going to be on stage first with David.
I just have to say, as an aside, one of my favorite national podcasts is the political scene by the New Yorker.
And it has Evan, and it has Jane Mayer, who was here a couple of years ago.
And the third person is Susan Glasser, who was here last year with her husband, Peter Baker, the New York Times.
getting to get them together, but we've gotten all three of them on stage.
And that'll be in Evan wrote a book that came out this summer that's cleverly titled the haves and have yachts discussion with Evan Osnos about
the
about what's happening with the plutocracy in America.
And then second Friday night will be John Nichols with Tim Walls.
And that will be
That'll be fun and colorful, I'm sure.
Governor Walz has been continuing to be out there.
I haven't seen this week.
He's been, he's two term governor of Minnesota and I, I, if I missed it, he's making a decision about whether to seek a third term, but I think he'll, he'll be.
entertaining, engaging on our stage Friday night.
Yeah, we have four, four sessions on Saturday.
I love them all.
The first one is county executive, Melissa Agart and, and yeah, Sacha Rhodes Conway with Nichols talking about the challenge of
leading in our progressive region with the kind of disdain that this White House has for cities like Madison, counties like Dane, Medicaid, other programs, ICE, the whole nine yards.
So that'll be our first session, kicks off at 2.30 on Saturday.
The second one is also a lot of fun.
Ben Wickler, former chair of the Democratic Party, is writing a book.
on...
on how the lessons learned and sort of taking back Wisconsin might apply nationally.
And David
Marinus, who's written, I don't know, 15 books, is moderating that.
Both of them, it was kind of fun.
I was preparing the introduction and both went to Madison West and now we're a big national.
Two years apart, you know, three, four decades apart.
That's second.
Third, the first session on Saturday night is really terrific.
Columbia University Germans and professor emeritus Sam Friedman was here last year.
and did a wonderful job talking about the history of progressivism in the Midwest on a panel and he wanted to come back and I'm just delighted he wanted to come back and he's brought in two huge national experts on Christian nationalism, the rise of Christian nationalism and he shared with me some of the background about how we got here and I think that will be one of the most
intellectually provocative sessions of the whole week.
I really think people will enjoy that.
And then we finish it off with J.B.
Pritzker of Illinois, one of them with J.B.
Pritzker, who shall we say is in the news these days and kind of brings the, is a pretty outspoken, interesting guy.
I might mention that
both Stacy Abrams and JB Pritzker will be interviewed by Karen Tumulty of The Washington Post, who has family connections in the area, but she's wonderful.
She was on the post-opinion section for many, many years.
And your audience probably knows what happened to the post-opinion section with intervening endorsement and so on and so forth.
So now she's replaced Dan Balls who's also an IDFS veteran as their top national political correspondent.
So that's gonna be fun to have her do those two interviews.
years?
We started it in 2017.
So it's the ninth year.
It's evolved over time.
In the early years, we tended to have even more in-person smaller sessions so that there'd be more of a smorgasbord to choose among.
So there'd be three simultaneous sessions.
That model kind of changed through the pandemic when we were all virtual.
In the last two or three years,
It's become a lot easier for me to recruit speakers like this because we've gotten something on a national reputation.
So last year was the year of the...
incredible woman, Nancy Pelosi, Liz Cheney, Heather Cox, Ritzitz, Doris Kearnsgood, Wayne Judy Collins.
This year, I think we're just as strong.
But I'd just like to make the point that supporting IDFS and attending is a lot of fun.
It's not all just serious talk.
It's in the Memorial Union, obviously, the terrace is right there, a lot of friendly people, a lot of interactions.
I would just encourage people to go to our website.
And you could also come that day.
Very good.
That evening.
And it's be a $25 ticket.
Very good.
this.
Somebody
I mean, they really, they really helped.
They really, actually really helped the Beatles a lot.
Boy, that was great talking with Paul Fanlin.
It really was.
Capital Times publisher.
And what a lineup this year at IdeaFest.
And happy that Civic Media is also involved.
Wednesday and Friday night, you can hear those broadcasts on the Civic Media radio network throughout the state.
And if you want to find out more about the IdeaFest, just go to captimesideafest.com,
OK, I have a clip here.
Are you going to bring us all down now?
Really?
No, I.
I think you'll enjoy this, I think.
Anyway, we got the clip from Fox News, and it was Fox Financial, and they were talking about all the money that Trump is making in crypto.
Oh, boy.
All right.
So it's amazing they actually came to this conclusion.
Finally, it's been pretty obvious for everybody else.
This is cut 10.
So let's listen to a little clip here of Fox News finally seeing the light.
OK.
The
Trump family just launched a brand new cryptocurrency.
It is called WLFI.
Like, how much has the Trump family itself accumulated of this?
How
much?
Yeah, for World Liberty Financial.
And the Wall Street Journal says it's $5 billion.
So this coin, WLFI, is currently the 33rd largest coin by market cap, about $6 billion worth, according to CoinGecko.
The family holds about a quarter of the tokens out there.
They can't sell them.
But now that the token has launched on the public markets, we have evaluation for it.
The Wall Street Journal says this token is the family's most valuable asset exceeding their property portfolio.
But they can't sell those tokens.
They can't do it.
Not yet at
least.
Not yet.
Correct.
Not yet.
My goodness me.
Five million dollars.
He is the crypto president.
The first one ever.
A lot of crypto friendly.
legislation regulation.
What it
amounts to is it's crypto friendly legislation coming from the president of the United States
who
is in turn cashing in on the crypto phase.
Personally, his family.
Conflict of interest.
They say no, but that's how it appears.
Yes,
Okay, here.
Here's a gigantic story that we didn't get to
But this is this is Trump promised his presidency would usher in the golden age for American workers But his administration has gutted union protections for tens of thousands of federal workers in what labor activists and historians have called the largest acts of union busting in American history Wow, this is a big huge story nearly half a million federal workers lost their union protections last night
month after an appeals court upheld Trump's decisions and days later right a day this this was just after Labor Day Trump issued another executive order similarly stripping union rights from thousands of more employees at six federal agencies since the 1960s government union workers could shape
Parental leave over time and workplace issues and conditions not anymore to Trump those union protections And this is exactly what they were saying here.
Yeah, we're a war against his agenda.
Oh, okay
Doctors, nurses, and social workers who care for veterans, as well as park rangers, emergency responders, scientists at NASA, and the Weather Service, and thousands of other federal workers stripped of their union protections, gone, union busted, just like Scott Walker did in this state with Act 10.
Unbelievable.
Wow.
Now, I would assume that this is...
would get more coverage.
I have not really seen much coverage on this particular story, but
no.
Sometimes we just get
I am.
You know that already.
So I'm just, I'm just.
You know, it's time to wrap things up, but I just want to say, I can't wait to go to the Brewers game today.
Yes.
You know, it's going to be against the Philadelphia Phillies.
Just want to remind our listeners, we'll meet you there at the ballpark.
And you've got your tickets already.
We hope
I
Of course they do.
Because everybody's coming up from Chicago.
Let's get them for everything they got.
Why not?
We're getting us too.
Yeah, I know.
That's the problem.
All right.
Well, it should be a good day at the ballpark.
We'll tell you all about it tomorrow.
Coming up tomorrow also.
Rocker with a Maxing preview.
Pam Yankee and Savannah Tomei Olsen will join us.
That's it for us for today.
Stephanie Miller's
next.
Alright, talk to you in 22 hours.
So long.
See you
later.
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