Chaos at the CDC        (Hour 2)

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Chaos at the CDC (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Tue Sep 2, 2025

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Now let's go to the phones.

We have Joe on the line.

Welcome to the program, Joe.

Good morning, Joe.

Hey, guys.

Great show is always glad to have you back, of course.

I wanted to just look into for a minute or two this change from Department of Defense to Department of War that our president wants.

With everything, what's ahead?

What's the subtext underneath that?

And I did just a little, uh, little research and apparently there's not a single country or ministry in any country, uh, on the planet except for us that has a department of war now.

Everybody else is the department of defense or ministry of defense.

And instead we're blazing the trail to, to be have the department of war.

And what's interesting about that is how can you argue defense if you want to invade Greenland and take it over,

you

know?

Right?

I mean, it allows you then to sort of get into what war had been in our past, which is about land acquisition.

I want it.

I'm going to go take it.

So there's no defense in there at all.

So I think that this is signaling in some pretty important ways.

When we go, they made the point, think about the language.

People talk about the Ministry of Defense.

Does anybody ever talk about a Ministry of Attack?

We don't do that, or we haven't done that.

So I would say that Greenland ought to get a little concerned as maybe Canada.

I don't know

what's happening in Venezuela with those ships that are circling around there.

But when you make a change like this, it's not neutral.

There's something going on behind it.

And I would say that something is we want it, we're taking it.

So we're going to war.

We don't defend our country anymore.

We're going to war.

Wow, that's a great point.

That's a really good point.

Wow.

Yeah, I think they're, they're leading up to it.

Yeah.

There's something

to that.

All right, Joe.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you for that call.

You can call us 608-879-8255 or get ahold of us on the Civic Media app.

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Okay.

It was a whole lot more thoughtful than the actual story that I... Well, Joe, you want to call us back?

We should have Joe guest host the show sometimes.

Really.

by seriously.

Okay, well, you

know, I'm not intimidated.

All right, let's get to the big first story here.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, this is this is just getting out of control.

Now, Trump demanded the immediate release of data on the matter of the CDC and the problems of relieving a few employees there.

Okay, now this is bad.

This has been a debacle right from the beginning, of course, putting RFK Jr.

in charge of health and human services is just the worst mistake we could have ever made in history.

And I hope you and I aren't affected by this because, you know, we need all the vaccinations we can get.

Yes.

Right.

I

know.

Why would they do?

I know.

I know.

This is just outrageous and absolutely ridiculous.

But anyway, he is trying to solve this problem.

There is a lot of people

disagreeing with what RFK Junior is doing out there.

You know, they had hearings now and they want some kind of resolution and they want the CDC board back in place in order to make recommendations so people can get the coverage that they need in health care.

Yeah, there are a

bunch of former CDC officials that are all lining up and sent a letter, right?

Yes, yes.

So, you know, so Trump is now demanding an immediate release of data on the matter while the

CDC is being ripped apart over this question.

He said that he said being ripped apart over this question He also said many people think they are a miracle that saved millions of lives Others disagree well We know the others that disagree are wrong, but I mean I just you know that let's treat it as an equal

Trump said, with CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer and I want it now.

So that's the way we're doing.

the CDC now.

Trump said he's been shown extraordinary information from Pfizer that the detailed effects and positive effects of vaccines have been wonderful, but no one has seen this proof that Pfizer showed him.

He says, why not?

They go off on the next hunt and they let everybody rip themselves apart.

What is wrong with

this guy?

Okay, including Bobby Kennedy, Jr.

in the CDC, trying to figure out the success

or failure of the drug companies COVID work.

We know what happened.

How many years are we into this already?

We're in five years into this.

We already know that the vaccine worked.

It saved lives, but now we still are questioning this and we must have an answer.

God.

Anyway, it's a big mess and that's what Trump is calling for right now.

Okay, let's get to this little cut from our Chris Hayes.

You did a little segment on this and I thought I played for you.

It's cut nine from this month.

Okay, cut nine.

Let's listen.

When I call Kennedy a dangerous crank, I'm not saying that as an insult or as hyperbole, but honestly is the most economical way of describing the man's views.

He's not a doctor.

He has no public health background.

He has no medical credentials whatsoever.

He's environmental lawyer and, crucially, the scion of a very, very famous wealthy and influential political dynasty.

And yet here he is offering up wacky diagnoses of people he passes on the sidewalk or the airport.

I know what a healthy child is supposed to look like.

I'm looking at kids as I walk through the airports today, as I walk down the street.

And I see these kids that are just overburdened with mitochondrial challenges, with inflammation.

You can tell from their faces, from their body movements, and from their lack of social connection.

And I know that that's not how our children are supposed to look.

What on earth are you on about?

You can see the kids have mitochondrial problems, their lack of social connection, you can see that.

Their faces aren't healthy to you, RFK Junior.

Should you bring your kid to RFK Junior with their face and say, what do you think, Bobby?

Healthy or not?

I know it's kind of a cliche at this point, but imagine the guy sitting next to you at the bar or at a PTA meeting or at your kids basketball game started opining about the mitochondrial inflammation in the kids in front of you.

You would move away because the guy seems nuts.

Well, that guy is in charge of our entire public health infrastructure influencing policy that impacts your health, your family's health, whether your kids are going to be able to get vaccines.

Wow.

Mmm.

There you go.

Okay.

Yeah, that's the kind of guy we have in charge, right?

Boy.

Okay.

Now, you know, I pulled this clip.

This was from the hearing for a CDC director, Susan Menares, and here are the questions that our political party was asking this individual, you know, when she was trying applying for the job.

Yeah, she

had the job for about a month.

Yes, let go.

And this is Minaris and what she had responded to when she was questioned for the

job.

Do you agree with the American Medical Association that there is no scientific proven link between vaccines and autism?

I have not seen a causal link between vaccines and autism.

Any thoughts about the safety of mRNA vaccine in general?

The FDA has in the production of the COVID-19 vaccine had approved the mRNA vaccines as safe and had demonstrated efficacy associated with them.

So you would not be prejudiced from the get go against such a platform, such a vaccine built upon a platform, whether it's for COVID flu.

for Lyme disease or anything else?

That is why I have no a prior prejudice against mRNA platform or any other approach that is being taken to develop vaccines.

The problem here is that actually much more is at jeopardy than just vaccines.

Of course, vaccines are absolutely in the crosshairs.

But let's look at what has happened.

We've fired a lot of CDC staff over the last five months.

Essentially now you have a hollow shell of an organization.

Obviously, vaccines are one part of what they do.

They do suicide prevention.

They do chronic disease management.

They do disease outbreaks, food outbreaks.

When there is a Salmonella outbreak, CDC goes.

All of that is now at substantial risk.

Nobody is minding the store, managing those things.

Americans count on that.

State public health officials need a functioning CDC.

And right now we do not have a functioning CDC.

And I'll be honest, I tend not to be a kind of a, you know, doomsayer.

I don't see in the short run a path forward to rebuilding a CDC.

We are, Secretary Kennedy has boxed us into a, into a corner and the American people are going to suffer as a result of this.

I don't want to suffer.

I don't want anybody to suffer

because of this idiot.

Geez.

You know, Cheryl Heinz married this guy.

Well, that was her problem.

I don't know what you saw on this nut job.

Oh my

God.

They're

still married.

Yeah, they still are.

You might remember her.

She played the wife on Curb Your Enthusiasm

to Larry

David.

Yes.

This character.

That's right.

Oh my God.

Hey, let's go for the moment.

Yeah, let's go to Dick.

Dick, what do you got for us today?

Good morning, Dick.

Well, Joe, what she was talking about is extremely interesting as always.

Was it only me that heard the laughter coming from China, too?

With Putin and walking hand in hand with the leader of India?

Yeah,

Moby,

yeah.

Hmm.

Yes.

I wonder what's going on there.

Anything you think?

Yeah,

yeah.

As a matter of fact, I think they're probably laughing at, you know.

You

know I'll tell you what I got that story coming up dick.

We'll do it right after we check in with Yeah, yeah, it's just kind

of

a rundown everybody is kind of knowing that this is a huge move economically globally and it's leaving the US behind and we'll get to that all right

Yeah, absolutely cool.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you dick

Appreciate that call.

608-879-8255.

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do you like this, though?

Tony Evers noticed that we are ranked number four as best state to live in now.

Is that

right?

Somebody has ranked us that at that point, so that's pretty good

to check into that.

Number four.

That's good.

All right.

Coming up, we'll be checking in with Brittany Merlot.

Find out what's happening weather-wise for today, back to school day, across most of Wisconsin, and...

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I'm singing the blues today.

First day of the work week for us on Tuesday.

Look at that sunshine.

That song, yeah.

It's beautiful.

We can only play it a few times.

That's why we're playing it on the program today.

That's

right.

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That's John Peterson.

I'm Gordy Young along with Dom Lee, our producer and Brittany Merlot is with us and we'll get to Brittany in just a moment.

I want to remind everybody our appreciation party for our listeners is at Doundren's Distilling this Saturday.

Begins at three o'clock and if you were one of our winners of the tasting tour

I'm just reminding you, you know, you want to get there on time.

Three o'clock is the start time.

And I think the first tour starts shortly after that.

It's got a great garden and picnic center.

I know, we were out there.

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It's a wonderful place.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't want to

leave.

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And the inside seating area is just fantastic.

I mean, they had, they had pineapples hanging from the ceiling.

I saw

that.

They were paper pineapples, but, and they were taking them down.

I mean, that was from a previous

party.

Previous party going on.

A Tiki party.

Yeah.

But it was.

It's just really cool inside.

I mean, this is going to be a nice place to go.

Yes, but everybody is invited.

You didn't just have to be a winner of the tasting tour.

It's open to the public.

And so join us this coming Saturday, September 6th at Downdrins Distilling in Cottage Grove, a day of community and good drinks and we'll be there.

John and Gordy will be there.

I believe Todd Alba is going to show up.

Brittany Merlot.

Said she's going to be here.

Said she's going to be here.

Are you going to be there?

For

Brittney Merlot

sure.

Yeah, 100%.

I will be there.

Excellent.

All right.

And weather looks good for the weekend, I think, right?

On the extended forecast.

Yeah,

Brittney Merlot

actually.

Should be nice.

Okay.

Brittney Merlot

A little chilly, a little cooler than we would want, but it will be dry.

It will be sunny and it will be comfortable on Saturday highs of about 64 degrees.

Wow, perfect.

So we are

Brittney Merlot

falling.

Love it.

Brittney Merlot

Yeah.

But what about today?

What do you think?

Brittney Merlot

Today.

Today is the last summery vibe we have until next week.

It will return.

It's not going to go away forever.

But we will hit 77 degrees today, super sunny out there, chance of showers and thunder overnight.

More likely in the morning tomorrow and kind of on and off throughout your day tomorrow.

So that's going to be a little damp, little soggy, highs of about 70 tomorrow.

But then we start to crash cold where tomorrow night, the northern part of the state is probably going to drop to below freezing spots.

Really way up

Brittney Merlot

north.

Wow.

Yeah.

We could see our first few flurries flying by the U.P.

and across the northern edge of Wisconsin Thursday morning.

Oh, that's too bad.

Too bad

for the

U.P.ers.

Brittney Merlot

But after that,

we

Brittney Merlot

are definitely going to be flirting with record cold high temperatures.

Oh my gosh.

Brittney Merlot

Thursday.

Mm

Brittney Merlot

hmm.

Eyes of 63 degrees on Thursday, Friday about 62.

But we

Brittney Merlot

could only make it to the upper 50s.

Well, if that happens, we're breaking records.

Well, we're going to the Brewer game on Thursday in Milwaukee.

I would assume it's going to be rather cold out there in the stands, right?

I mean, it's an afternoon game.

Brittney Merlot

It'll be an afternoon game.

They're probably going to close the roof because not at night rain is going to roll through again.

Oh,

Brittney Merlot

OK.

All right.

Brittney Merlot

Yeah, it's going to be a breezy, cool one.

So highs in the 60s are really going to feel like the 50s because the winds are going to be whipping at like 20, 30 miles per hour.

Wow.

Okay.

That

Brittney Merlot

fall feel for sure.

Okay.

But all in all, not too bad.

Some, what time do you think the showers and thunderstorms tonight for us?

Overnight?

Brittney Merlot

You mean?

Overnight, yeah.

After midnight while we're sleeping.

Yeah, okay.

Brittney Merlot

But tomorrow kind of on and off throughout the day.

All right.

Good deal.

All right, Brittany.

Yep, thank you.

Appreciate the update.

You have a good day.

That's Britney Merleau or WMDX meteorologist.

Okay.

All right Let's get to the big change in the global economy This is this is an editorial from call to activism pretty good site.

They're saying

They're deciding the future of the world without America at the table as

the

strongman rise well democracy fades Here's why this meeting is really a middle finger to Trump under Trump while America became a global joke losing allies power and influence the worst happened Trump slapped crushing tariffs on India one of the most important allies that we have insulted its leader Modi when he

when Trump pressured him to nominate Trump for a noble.

Peace Prize.

I know.

Violating.

That's violating India's policy against foreign mediation.

So he can't do that.

Modi's move toward Beijing is seen as a strategic blow to the U.S.

and Trump's reckless policies.

It's so bad, by the way.

Modi reportedly refuses to speak to Trump anymore.

OK.

Yeah.

Now India will drift closer to Russia and China.

creating a juggernaut alliance and a massive threat to America's global standing, all because Trump chose trade wars over solidifying their friendships.

This summit signals a geopolitical realignment that could reshape trade, security and global balance of power for decades.

And America seat empty.

Great.

Well, I'm sure just more great news.

I

just strap in.

Well, you know, you can't really make it any worse than this, right?

I mean, when you have India teaming up with China and

Russia.

Wow.

They were all, you know, handshakes and smiles and

boy,

they were having a

good time.

They

were all over social media along with another, I don't know, 15 or 20

countries kind

of signed on, joined up.

Yeah.

So they're moving on without us.

Yeah.

But we're really going to rake in the money from all those tariffs, aren't we?

Sure.

It's all working out just great.

I'm kind of another story somewhere here.

Where is it?

Where we're making like over $8 trillion.

Oh, really?

Something so absolutely exaggerated that it's unbelievable to even think that we'll

get to that a little bit later.

Okay.

Coming up shortly, we're going to be talking with Liz

Johnston

from Serenity Pet Spa.

and find out what you should be doing with your pets this time of year.

You know, allergies affect pets.

We're gonna talk a little bit about that with Liz Johnston after we take a break for the Midwest Food and Farm Report right here on 92.7 WMDX.

WMDX 92.7.

It's John and Gordy in the morning.

It's a beautiful day across Southern Wisconsin.

We've got sunshine, clear blue skies, highs coming up to the mid-seventies today.

And right now, still in the mid-fifties.

So it's a little cool start.

You

might want

to grab a jacket or a sweater as you head out the door.

Back to school time.

Good advice.

I came up with that myself.

Thank you.

You've always been very concerned.

Well, I don't want people to get chilled when they go outside for stay

back.

Long three day weekend.

Yeah.

Hey, guess who's here?

He's got a big heart, man.

You just gotta love

it.

Let's move forward, huh?

Liz Johnston has joined us.

Good morning.

All right, man.

Good morning, everyone.

How are you doing today?

Good.

I'm I'm enjoying this not sweltering weather except the top still off the Jeep.

So it was a little chilly driving in this

morning.

Yeah.

Wait, wait a second.

You're the top fell off of your Jeep.

No, no, the top is still.

Oh, I

said it

fell off.

Scared me.

Is it a newer, is it one of those?

I'm

perfectly calm about this.

Is it a newer Jeep?

Is that one of those nice removable tops on it?

Yeah.

It's

gorgeous.

It's hanging in my pulley system.

Cool.

So Serenity Pet Spa.

What's new there?

This is the time of year.

I'll tell you what.

I sneezed so much over the weekend just because of the pollen or whatever's out there right now.

This affects pets, though, too.

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

I

mean, we're all made up of the same things, right?

We

all have, you know, skin.

We all have

body parts, you know, so the same allergies.

You know, dogs seem to be able to eat anything and we can't.

I mean, it's for

yourselves.

But how can you tell if your dog has allergies?

So there's a couple of signs to look for.

Obviously itching, that's a given.

Dogs don't really sneeze.

That's not usually an allergy sign on dogs.

But itching, licking their feet a lot.

We see that one, especially with the white dogs, if they're getting that redness.

Ear infections can be a sign of an allergy.

You have, let's see, rubbing and rolling, any red spots, especially.

the spots that don't have as much hair.

So in between your paw pads, the belly, like little kind of sanitary area, anything around the face can be a lot more sensitive because of course they're got their nose down in the ground.

So those are the areas to really look for.

You just see them, they feel like they're rubbing and itching at those a lot or you got any redness on the skin.

So what do you do?

So there are a couple of things you can do at home.

There are like pet safe wipes that they make.

So like if their paws are being, they're licking their paws and they're maybe

allergic to

the grass or something in the grass, wiping their feet when they come from inside, that can help it the same with the snout, the belly, things like that.

So anything you can do to wipe that residue off so they're not sitting at home with it, washing their bedding frequently is always important, making sure

that

that's not resting in the house.

So similar things that you do for yourself, air purifying.

Just any of those type of things that you would do to help reduce the pollen count for you is gonna help with your dog as well.

Yeah.

So you don't need any medicine or

anything for that.

So yeah, I don't usually, usually I recommend medicine as kind of the last option.

Now there's dogs that need the medicine.

There's some over the counter stuff that obviously you can talk to the vet about.

There's some more extreme stuff for dogs with extreme allergies.

But there's also like medicated shampoos and things that can really help as long as you're making sure like, you know, going to a professional, getting it done right, making sure that's getting on the skin, it's getting soaked down into the skin and then getting.

thoroughly rinsed and then usually a good conditioner afterwards is important with those because they can be a little drying when you're using that heavily medicated stuff.

Anything else this time of year for pets that we should be concerned about besides allergies?

I mean,

the pets are mostly happy right now because it's finally cooling down.

But you

will notice another what we call the fall shed.

So

a lot of

people think they're like, oh, it's cooling off.

Why is my dog shedding again?

And what it is is they're getting rid of any kind of fresher coat that they grew over the summer because we're always growing hair even when it's hot out.

And they're getting rid of that coat so they can grow a thicker coat for the winter coming up.

So you'll see that a lot when the temperatures shift into a little cooler.

So they might need one good like one last de-shed before the winter comes and then they'll be all set with that bigger thicker coat and just get maintenance

of the spray.

Are we talking about the lower coat the undercoat?

Yeah, the undercoat.

Absolutely.

Yes.

And you're like double coat, like your Golden's, your Bernie's Mountain Dogs, your Collie's, your Border Collie's,

all those dogs

are maybe doing a Huskies.

Don't even get me started on

the shedding on the Huskies.

Well, they're bred to be in Siberia.

That people buy them and put them in 90 degree heat and

they're just

like, why do I have this hair in my house?

Well, you just kind of par for the course with a husky.

You're going to no longer own black clothes.

It's

life.

So they shed what they had and they replace it with something new and thicker.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They only have so many hair follicles.

So if they don't

shed out a hair follicle, they can't grow a fresh new.

undercoat in there.

So you got to kind of, you got to get the dead hair out in order to get the new fresh coat.

So you have to brush or?

Brush or bathe.

Yeah.

So like with my collies, I try to make sure I'm bathing them at least every six weeks and it reduces their shedding a lot, a lot, a

lot.

So, you know, if I keep that on that maintenance, it just keeps that coat kind of coming out and it makes it so it's manageable and then I don't have to brush my dogs because I don't have time for that.

How about for short haired dogs and, you know, with very

little fur.

How often do you bathe?

Like chihuahuas.

Yeah, like your

chihuahuas, your pit bulls, your labs, things like that.

Obviously, labs are heavier shedders than those other two options.

But you still want to get them in at least every other month.

Get them in because it's not just the bathing, which you got to remember about professional groomers is they're kind of your first line of defense.

You

see them more often than a vet.

With our dryers and our techniques, you can see more of the skin than a vet has.

I have found things on dogs when they

were at their monthly or monthly, monthly vet checkup at their yearly checkup like the day or two before.

And I

found something they had to go back in and sometimes it's nothing and I have actually found cancer before.

So it's things that vets can see or not that vets can't see and then groomer can.

So getting them in just for regular and keeping them with the same person so that like it's they have good notes and oh, that's a new lump.

That's not a new lump is really important to help with your dog's health overall.

Yeah.

Very good.

Yeah, it's hard to notice the lumps only because, you know, they get the clumpiness, some clumps because of oil, I guess.

So, yeah, it's kind of difficult.

And, you know, we're trying to get enough courage to give our border collie at least even take some of the burrs off, you know, at this point.

I don't know, are we bad dog owners at this point?

Do we let the dog get away with too much?

You know, she's not

a berser.

It's a real problem.

It's a broader poly.

You know, they're not going to bite us, but you know, it seems like they, you know, they really just want to avoid any, any care that we could provide them

pretty much.

Yeah.

I

mean, and that's just in the dog's nature because it's like, it'd be asked like asking a toddler, do you want to go get your hair trimmed?

Because to

them, that might be a scary experience and their hair might have feelings.

Like they don't understand this stuff yet.

So

you got to really put your mindset in your dog as a toddler.

Like they don't have a rational understanding of what you're trying to do.

So sometimes you have to just show them don't really, you need to do this.

It's not going to hurt you.

And they go,

oh,

okay.

And then they're fine because they trust you.

So you just kind of got to give them something

to trust.

They get used to

the trust.

Okay.

What about clipping their nails though?

I mean, that's,

Don't do it.

John says

no.

Just leave it to the professionals.

Leave it to the professionals.

To do it.

We

never use the gadgets or devices to do it because we're afraid to do

it.

And that's the biggest thing.

If ever you're afraid of doing anything with your dog or

nervous

about it is so important not to.

Because what you're telling the dogs can sense that.

They can sense that you're afraid.

They are a predator animal after all, right?

So they can sense that you're afraid.

So if they sense that, then they're like, you're gonna do something that's bad.

And so they're connecting nail trimming, brushing, whatever it is with something scary and bad, where when they come in and see us, like, I am 100% confident I can do your dog's nails because I've done thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dog nails in 20 years of grooming dogs.

So, so to me, I can pop a dog on the table and get his nails done in five minutes or less because I know exactly what I'm looking for, exactly what I'm doing, where it will take you five minutes to maybe do like one nail tentatively and this dog is

and you're going, what is wrong?

What is

happening?

Why

is

dad freaking out?

So it just becomes a big negative experience and you're just better off with professional groomers.

Well, the thing is, you know, our dogs forget, we don't.

If we go too far, you get a little bleeding from those nails.

Yeah.

And the thing is, one thing to remember is,

It's like, so for the ladies out there, or I guess you have with your beards, you ever cut yourself shaving,

it's like a

similar issue to that.

Quicking the nail like a little bit is not like the end of the world

for the

dog.

And half the times when it does happen, because it happens, dogs kick into us and you know, you get a nail short, but they don't even notice.

They really

don't.

They do not.

I have quicked a nail before and been like, oh, your nail's bleeding.

They're like, whatever.

Like the dogs don't barely even feel it.

What they associate with, because most of the dogs that pull or are bad for their feet, they do it long before I ever even trim a nail because they're connecting it to one time daddy was scared and they freaked out when this happened.

So like if you do quick and bleed, don't freak out.

Because if you freak out, then they're going to

freak

out.

And then

now that's that.

Competitive that they'll remember.

That's how they're supposed there.

They're a reactive behavior is what you're creating.

So, yeah, yep.

Good to

know.

Staying calm is important.

Anything new at Serenity Pet Spa?

You've got the third store open now.

There's stores up and going.

We're

actually opening...

a fourth day over there starting next week.

Some big things as far as how we do, some people are aware and some people aren't that we do actually have kind of a training academy there.

So we teach people to groom.

And I actually have one of my groomers stepping into a full-time training role because we have so many people coming in and we want to dedicate more time to the best training as possible.

So

we're going to have a lot more focused training.

And I actually have two of my groomers just passed.

two of their master exams.

So they are on their way to becoming master certified groomers.

So we're very proud of

them for that.

And cause yeah, they just started with us less than a year ago.

And so they're already reaching master master level.

So yeah, so we're really focusing on in on our training program and that's been going really good.

So excited about that.

Excellent.

And what are the three locations again?

Yes.

So we have our main big hub location.

So that's the Serenity West on O'Dana Road, 6039 O'Dana.

We have our East location that's on East Park Boulevard.

So it's right off American Parkway.

And then we have our West location, not our West, our Middleton location is what we call it.

So it's like our far West Middleton and that's a 310 Junction Road.

So that's our new one.

that's opening up and taking new clients at all of them.

Yeah, right, and the Red Cross from Outback.

Yep, absolutely, yep,

right over there.

And website or

Facebook?

SerenityPetSpaMadison.com.

That makes it easy,

alright.

Yes, and you can find all three locations, book online right through there.

Well, thanks for clearing up all these mysteries of how to take care of your pets without freaking them out.

Guess I've been doing it wrong for so many years.

Your dog might be a lost cause.

I gotta tell you, Border Collies are so smart that they work through

it.

I don't, but they work through it.

That's the problem

with smart dogs.

They're smarter than you sometimes.

Those Border Collies in the poodles, the standard poodles

are dangerous, they're so smart.

Liz Janssen, thanks.

for joining us from Serenity Pet Spa.

Appreciate it.

It is now 747.

Want to remind you, hey, we're going to the Brewers game on Thursday with

our winners.

That's going to be a fun day.

Afternoon.

It is an afternoon game, three o'clock against

the Phillies.

Could be a pivotal

game.

You never know.

I know.

Yes.

And that should be a lot of fun.

And of course, our listener appreciation party on Saturday at Dundren's Distilling in Cottage Grove.

That's happening.

Anyone can go, but we have a special list of listeners who also have one.

A chance to taste, go on the

tour, behind the scenes

of

the at Doundren's Distilling.

Okay, coming back with more of John and Gordy in the morning on WMDX.

Stay right

there.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website,

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Yeah, they

put all that

together.

Yes,

it's great.

Thanks.

752.

All day long.

Yeah, all day long.

It is Tuesday, the day after Labor Day, and back to school time.

Hey, we want to remind you, you can sign up to help us out with the Alzheimer Association Walk to End Alzheimer's.

That is taking place on Sunday, October 5th, and it happens at Warner Park, and you can sign up.

help us out donate to our cause here and just go to the wmdxradio.com page and look at the top of the page there you'll see the walk to end Alzheimer's and we'd appreciate some donations we're going to be walking the walk at again Sunday October 5th right yes okay all right all right check it out at wmdxradio.com

And we're going to get those Brewer tickets out to you as well.

Absolutely.

Just to let you know.

Yes.

And if

winners that have not gotten those tickets out, they should get them in the next day or so here.

I'm

waiting to.

You're waiting for your tickets?

Yes, I am.

Well, talk to Jenna in the promotion department.

We'll get going on that.

All right.

Uh, this, uh, this was an interesting post.

This is the title of the post, uh, the White House posted that the U S has now taken in $8 trillion in tariff revenues so far.

Wait,

eight trillion, preposterous, insane lies on an hourly basis.

That's what drew my attention into this.

So I had to look into it to see what the truth was.

$8 trillion seems like an awful lot.

We could pay down the debt very quickly with these.

I know with like six months, right?

Maybe not even that maybe four or five months of tariffs so far They've managed to make eight trillion dollars Wow, why did we think of this before?

Anyway, because it it's not really eight trillion dollars How much is it really Forbes writes since April start of the tariffs?

The levies have generated around $96 billion in revenue.

Well, that's pretty close to $8 trillion.

$96 billion, not $8 trillion.

The U.S.

has collected $142 billion in

tariffs

so far the fiscal year, and that includes, of course, Biden and Trump.

So $142 billion for an entire year.

only $96 billion in the few months that this has been in effect, not $8 trillion.

Just to clarify for CJs out there and my mega friend in Milwaukee, it's not $8 trillion.

Of course, you know, this is coming from, you know.

fake news so yeah what can you do i don't know uh the levies by the way will likely raise prices for the average household by nearly one thousand three hundred dollars in this year and uh seventeen hundred dollars next year extra that you and i were gonna be paying for uh the price of uh everything great but i i actually anticipate paying more because i buy too much stuff the

speakers that

you just bought

yeah

I know, they sound just like the other ones.

Are they

bigger speakers

or smaller speakers?

No, they're the same size.

About the same size, about the same.

I'm just, I'm really angry, you know, I'm sitting there, I want the center speakers for the voice and I was thinking that I needed a new center speaker, but I went and bought all the other speakers with it and just to make it easy and simple because it is Dolby Atmos ready.

Okay.

Okay, so that's the whole thing right

there.

So have you noticed any difference?

So you're saying these speakers are no better

than the other ones?

I really haven't noticed a difference.

But you know, my kids will get some really good speakers now.

So there you go.

I thought this was very just uplifting as heck.

This is the border wall.

We know that they are painting the border wall.

Black.

Paint it black.

Yeah.

You know, they're not using the spray paint.

They're not.

Preparing the surface for the new paint job.

They haven't put an undercoating on to make sure the paint stays on.

They're not doing it.

So they're just playing.

They're just putting black paint on that wall and they're going to be doing

that.

See what

happens.

Yeah, see what happens to spend our money on that.

But on the other side of the wall, wow.

Oh

man.

I saw this on X, a work of art, Libru Guterres.

painted the entire height of the fence with a mural showing a cactus, plants, hillsides of flowers and blue sunlit skies with a running river running through it.

I'm serious.

This thing is like

30 or 40 feet long and it goes to the top of the wall.

So you must have had like some help getting up there and somebody holding the paintbrush.

But it is gorgeous.

What a way to make the wall look fantastic.

The only comment I had, and I made this to Anne, I thought, you know, this is just a gorgeous mural, just beautiful.

And I'm thinking, why did they do that?

Why didn't they just make America look like some kind of volcanic waste?

Why'd they make it look like, you know, a place they want people to go to?

No, no, you want

to, yeah.

Right?

They want to turn them away.

Yeah, that's what I would have thought.

You know, like the surface

of Mars or something.

Hellscape, yeah.

Hellscape, there

you go.

Demons and stuff.

The surface of Mars.

Scary stuff.

That's what you want on the wall.

That's what I'm thinking.

So, you know, they could have made it look like, you know, Mad Max.

Yes!

That seems like a good idea.

Well, anyway, that's my idea.

Instead, you know, it's a nice beautiful mural, making it look like we have some kind of paradise up here.

When it isn't anymore.

Not the case anymore.

You know, I

gotta start watching South Park because they are

They're telling the story the way it is.

I know they're cranking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good for them to see that.

Hey, that's gonna wrap it up for this Tuesday edition of John and Gordy in the morning.

Thank you for joining us.

Coming up next is Stephanie Miller and tomorrow on the show we have Matt Rothschild and Mike McCabe will be with us.

We'll be talking about Scott Walker.

Yes, Matt.

Oh, yeah.

We're gonna go deep with that.

All right.

You have a great day.

So long.

Talk to you

tomorrow.

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