
That's John Peterson.
I'm Gordy Young.
Dom Lee is our producer, and we're continuing our visit here with Tom and Christie Manus.
Six minutes past the hour.
It's going to be gorgeous all day long.
Beautiful sunshine highs in the mid-60s.
So you're going to be here all day.
You're going to take some pictures, right?
Right.
For your next book.
Right, we turned our manuscript in Tuesday.
lost treasures of Wisconsin, which is about things that aren't here anymore, but we all remember.
So we have some photos we need to get.
But it is Madison heavy since, you know, Christmas
tons of memories.
Okay,
so that's kind of where you know a lot of people hung out there and we've lost a lot of them We actually featured a whole bunch of them here on the show a few days ago when the church key Said they were gonna close down then change their mind after the outpouring of angry angry people here in Madison Who have you know passed through there and had some fun there?
So
well, there's there's a lot of them.
I'm amazed at the music history
from Madison
writing this
book,
headliners, the people that played at these places.
Well,
were in here.
80s, and I remember with the drinking age being 18, we were able, even if we weren't 18, we could get in all these clubs.
And it really made me think of who did I see
Because they weren't popular.
We have a bar that's kind of interesting.
really?
It's up in Spooner.
And go ahead.
So when JFK was touring, not touring.
Touring.
Yeah, touring for
president.
Yeah,
president.
Yeah,
was campaigning.
He stopped at a bar in Spooner, which is now called Big Dix but corned.
And you know of course has a neon sign and so that that drew our attention, but
But you can you can how can I say this other than you can pee where JFK Pete?
Oh, yes,
and nothing has changed.
Yeah, it's nothing has changed since 1961 Yes,
and the bathroom is I mean and it's I don't need it might have been clean since then
Maybe.
Is there a plaque there?
There is.
Of course.
There is a plaque.
On the door.
Yes.
On the door and... That is so Wisconsin.
Yeah.
He took a break from campaigning,
took care of business and someone bought him a beer and they have a little case that has memorabilia, including the...
the glass that he used, that he drank out
newspaper articles stuck on the walls.
And it's a dive bar.
I mean, it's a serious dive bar, but it is an experience because it literally don't think it's changed.
And, you know, when you're taking care of business, you're like, wow.
He probably stood here on the same
tile.
I mean, it's worth a drive to Spooner just to do that,
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely.
Wow.
That's true.
That's truly amazing.
And I was just noticing how you laid out the book, Historic Wisconsin Roadside.
And the amazing thing is you have towns and cities listed.
And then in each section, you list the places that you went that you were interested in, and it's a where to go list of places in these towns.
did it.
We wanted to take, you know, the drama and the fear out of getting out and going.
Yeah,
we did it for you.
You just have to look at the book and say, Oh, well, let's stop here.
Let's stop here.
You don't have to do them all.
You can do them all, but you can pick and choose.
And they lean toward what we love.
I mean, because we handpicked every single one, there's there's over 1200 locations.
And we handpicked everyone because it has a tight history.
And also, you know, we love pop culture, so it leans heavy into pop culture and neon sign and the road trip era.
And we wanted to make sure that it's going to be around for a little while because so many places pop up and they close within
year.
And we wanted the book to last.
We want people to do things.
the
Right.
I kind of do.
Supposedly he traveled with a suitcase full of money.
Because he didn't really believe in
banks.
Right.
And his wife showed up after he died and was more concerned about where that suitcase was.
Well, no kidding.
Wow.
And all the research we've done, nobody ever figured out where it went.
So that's kind of interesting.
Yeah.
And also he was he was, you know, obviously he didn't show up to the concert.
Yeah.
And.
Oh, yeah.
But that, you know, the Grum Reapers were opening for him that night.
Oh,
something.
Which was cheap trick eventually.
think it'd be neat to go back in time and see all these things that
they're also from our publisher, Reedy Press.
And I think they do free shipping.
So that's always a bonus.
And down here in town on the State Street, little luxuries.
And
also Lakeside Books, a couple in town right here for sure.
But you can really get anywhere.
I mean, big bookstores, but we always want you to check out your independent bookstore first.
Yeah.
Because they're our tie to our local community.
Good deal.
Well, thanks for joining us.
We'll see you again tonight, right here.
Same place.
Looking forward to it.
Right.
Same studio.
For Nightlight, as we fill in for Pete Schwab, Tom and Christy Manus.
Thanks for joining us today.
Thanks for having us.
And we'll talk to you again this evening.
All right.
OK.
Very good.
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Of course, we're gonna have our big listener appreciation party coming up on September 6th, right?
I believe that's right.
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Selfly through the papers.
Yes, September 6th.
Okay.
So we'll take the first call there.
Dom, go right to the phones.
Let's get right, let's get our winner right here right now.
And let's see who we've got on the line.
Good morning.
Who's here?
Who's there?
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
Hi, you're on with John and Gordy.
Go ahead.
Hi, who's
this?
We can't and we'll continue troubleshoot this right now I'm gonna get to the stories or we had a lot of stories man.
Okay.
Oh, okay How about this seven hundred and forty four thousand three hundred job cuts were announced?
by companies in the first half of this year, 744,000 job cuts.
Are you kidding me?
The highest layoffs since the pandemic.
Now that's, you know, a lot of people were off during the pandemic.
Wow.
That's crazy.
And Doge cut 287,000 jobs, add to that.
Microsoft announced 9,000 cuts to jobs.
Eastern and southeastern states saw layoffs of 220% compared to last year.
And get this, and after all of what I've just mentioned here, despite all of that, unemployment is still at a low 4.2%.
How is it?
Now, you would think, yeah, they've edged up and there are some very expensive items out there that are affected by tariffs.
But here's the thing, it hasn't really taken off.
Yeah, we haven't seen inflation take off, right?
And I am stumped by that.
First of all, we got the tariffs to make that leap to become more expensive.
But then,
where the companies, you know, they jumped on the bandwagon of greed-flation when they had a chance to do it.
They have a chance to do it now, but no one is doing it.
They're not doing it.
They're not raising prices or downsizing the boxes of a product that they're putting out.
I don't understand.
I mean, everything is there.
Everything is ripe for these people to make a lot of money and raise the prices and increase inflation.
But it ain't happening.
And I'm a little suspicious.
I'm stumped by this.
I don't get it.
I'm glad.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm glad that this is happening.
But all right, let's get to something so surreal and so ridiculous.
It's just hard to believe.
NASA's acting administrator, Sean Duffy, I can't believe I'm even saying that, says the agency will step back from climate science to focus on space exploration, raising concerns about gaps in climate monitoring and weather forecast.
Duffy posted this under my leadership, which is just mind boggling, we'll restore
NASA's primary mission as space exploration.
We're getting rid of the discriminatory DEI in NASA and the nonsense of climate change, Duffy said.
Now, here's the thing.
How much space exploration are we really doing at this point?
How busy
We don't have the ships going out to Mars at the end of the universe.
We don't have the spaceships not exploring.
It's all science fiction.
It's a movie.
You might want to go to the theaters and experience space exploration, but you ain't going to get it here on earth because we don't have the technology yet.
Oh my God.
Anyway, you know, NASA has always said that they are there to understand and protect the home planet.
But not according to Duffy.
He's not even familiar with it.
Let's hear cut 187.
This is Sean Duffy.
Okay.
187.
All right.
Listen.
We explore, we explore space.
And so we're going to go to the moon.
We're going to go to Mars.
We're going to look at what do we do with our next low earth orbit space station, right?
Cause the international space station has another several years of life before it comes down.
That's important to us.
But all of the.
All the climate science and all of the other priorities that the last administration had at NASA, we're going to move aside in all of the science that we do is going to be directed towards exploration, which is the mission of NASA.
That's why we have NASA is to explore, not to do all of these earth sciences.
And the mission
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All right, let's check out what's going on in the
rain rolls in at night.
Looks like it could be damp on Thursday, which cools us down to about 70 or so again.
So Thursday, Friday, dropping a little cooler, clouds clear again for the weekend.
And we start to warm things up as we cruise into the weekend.
And I mean, we'll be at 80 degrees again by next week.
That's it into work and it was just perfect really really nice outside even though it's kind of cool You know the temperature.
Yeah, but it felt warm.
You know, it's it's it's perfect out there I can't yeah, it's amazing after this summer anything is better than what we've had.
Okay
She does a thing called Fox Splains.
And her...
success with Foxplains is unbelievable.
I mean, she gets about 2 million views on YouTube.
Really?
On Foxplains.
Plus, she's up for two Emmys for the project itself.
My gosh.
So that's how popular Foxplains is by Desi Lydic.
Now, who knew this?
Seth Meyers has corrections.
Jimmy Kimmel has the rabbit hole.
and the Tonight Show has during commercial break.
Every one of them has something like Foxplains.
I did not know that
Finally, Donald Trump is going to release the F-steam files.
He is the only president with the courage to... Hello?
President said what?
It's like I've always said enough with the Epstein files.
All right, just move on already I've been watching Fox News for 253 hours straight and I'm ready to Foxplain why the Epstein files are a massive scandal that mega patriots everywhere must stand up and stop being interested in.
I know what you're thinking.
A secret of Billionaire's private sex island sounds kind of intriguing.
Wrong.
Are you still talking
This is old news and not in the fun Benghazi sort of way.
Biden tripped on this
as recently as two years ago.
And what about this salacious scandal?
This could be the biggest presidential scandal in modern American history.
In auto
pen, what?
How do we know we can even trust these Epstein files?
This nothing burger that you shouldn't be talking about was all concocted by Obama, Biden, Malala.
I think the Queer Eye guys even wrote a chapter.
Totally shorted, but boring, obscene, but mundane, scandalous, and a total snooze fest, like White Lotus season three.
It's simple, folks.
This has every element of a perfect conspiracy theory.
And starting now, I do not care about it.
Starting now.
See?
I totally couldn't care less.
I don't care.
I don't care.
up, Devon!
I just want to know who's on the list to show me who's on the list.
Who's on the list!
The files were on Pam Bondi's desk.
And that is fine.
Look, the bottom line is it's over.
And as of now, I'm done talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.
It is in fact time to move on.
They have closed the case.
I'm going to trust my friends in the administration.
I'm going to trust my friends in the government.
The government is our closest friend, much like Jeffrey Epstein's closest friend.
Listen, when someone says case closed, you can't talk about it anymore.
It's like calling shotgun.
It is sacred.
And that is why as of now.
I am forever done talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Forever.
Yeah, beautiful sunshine all across the area.
Downtown State Street looking bright and sunny.
We'll see sunshine through the day highs in the mid sixties.
Right now 52 degrees.
Time for us to welcome into the show former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Good morning, Paul.
Hi, Paul.
Paul, are you there?
Hello, Paul.
Stand by for Paul Suggland.
Let me call him back.
We're there.
So last time we were on.
Yeah.
I made a mistake.
you like to make a correction?
Yeah.
We're talking about the band that Steve Miller and Boss Gags and Ben Sidren played in.
Yes.
Before those other, they all went national.
And I said it was the imitations.
The imitations was a band that played around campus.
A lot of great blues.
And that was later in the 60s.
band that we should have named, or I should have identified, was the fabulous Ardells.
So we got to set the record straight.
I got a question for because, you know, we've been kind of following what's going on in D.C.
Trump's takeover of D.C.
And now the big threat of taking over Chicago, Paul, I
wonder, because you've been mayor, you probably know what each and every city can do to prevent something like this from happening.
Please tell me there is a way to prevent this from happening.
Well, the first thing I'd start out with, and I don't know why this hasn't been raised, is nationally, except for the FBI,
law enforcement is to be left to the locals.
And this is something that both conservatives and liberals, progressives have maintained in this country for years, that there was no national police force coming from the federal government.
And I haven't done the research on case law or anything, but that's certainly one thing that
I'd hope an organization like the US Conference of Mayors of the National League of Cities would start working on in collaboration with municipalities like Chicago, Los Angeles.
The other thing that I'd do is I would in effect station my own police officers in places that and take up the space that
Wasn't that that Trump intends to send in these these troops.
Yeah And and and basically make them stand down.
so DC is always going to be a separate and distinct
situation.
Because of the statutory authority that the federal government has
terms of controlling DC.
And the interesting thing is, the founding fathers when they established the District of Columbia did so, so that where the US capital was located, that it would be politically independent.
It's like the great irony of what's happening.
Yeah.
The only reason they don't want to make it a state is because they don't want two senators to be added to the Senate, uh, Democratic senators.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And just for political purposes.
And they shouldn't be able to get away with that.
It's just for political purposes instead of representation.
They're doing it just for politics.
Yeah.
If I'm not mistaken, I just recently read that DC's population is greater than both Wyoming and Vermont.
Let's get back to Chicago for a minute because it sounds like there's some, there's some stories out there that the Pentagon has been helping to plan this.
takeover of Chicago or to bring in the troops for maybe several weeks.
And, you know, why, why Chicago?
Is that because of Governor JB Pritzker possibly being a presidential candidate?
Or is it just that Trump wants to go in there and show he's a tough guy and start going through the streets and rounding up people?
Yeah, his point is to take
Yeah.
You know, and that's the whole point is he wants a poster child for a democratic city in a democratic state that he can use to build political sympathy anywhere elsewhere.
He's not going to pick up political sympathy and support in Chicago or in the state of Illinois.
So yeah, my guess is that's why he sees Chicago.
Again, you know, if you look at the data in terms of crime, just as the situation is in DC, Chicago significantly improved.
Right.
Yeah, and that's the challenge.
Do you want to make that kind of a commitment permanent?
Where are you going to get the money?
Commain that number of law enforcement on the streets at any given time plus you combine that with the potential Problem which which is going to happen.
namely If you don't have property properly turned to officers Something's gonna go wrong.
It's just a question of time.
Next, you know, I am so far out of it these days in terms of the inside game.
yeah.
You know, I would think that that Josh call will determine general.
All right, we got the
Secretary of State, we got Lieutenant Governor.
I really don't know the players on the
Republican side.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that, those all offer up a challenge.
My big concern about this is how are they going to launch a campaign?
that gets them through a primary and at least on the Democratic side, which is where I planned, obviously, is get them through the general election.
And here's how I think is the challenge.
To get through the primary, I believe most of these candidates are going to run on an anti-Trump platform and how they're going to
protect us from Trump's follies, his stupidity, his danger.
But they can't do it in just the way I described it.
Because I don't think an anti-Trump campaign is going to win the general election.
Not when the key swing voters are the people who move back and forth.
between Republican and the Democratic column.
And in the last election here in the state, the presidential election, there's that key five, six, seven percent.
They voted for Trump.
They invoked for Harris.
And so that's going to be the big challenge.
Obamacare is going to lose some of the subsidies that were put in place during COVID and a lot of people's premiums are going to go right through the roof.
And there'll be a lot of people who are going to be very angry at the tax cuts that Trump put in place and allowed something like this to happen.
Even though they've delayed the Medicaid cuts till after the next election.
So it doesn't impact a lot of people, but people I think
what you
The way you've described it is the way it has to be approached.
In other words, I'm not here to bash Trump.
What I'm here to do is to protect your health care.
I'm the candidate who's going to protect your health care and then describe it in those terms and juxtapose it as to what the impact is and will be of the Trump assault on our, again, don't describe it the way I am.
but describe it as how you would positively fix this problem.
And the same thing is true in terms of agricultural policy.
Between the tariffs and the ice raids, those are real dangers to Wisconsin agriculture and to a considerable part of our state's population that voted for Trump.
Well, I know, you know, I've been trying to get the Democrats to pick up the mantle of health care for all.
I wish they would do it.
So at least, you know, we're ahead of the game here instead of waiting to react to the health care premium increases.
See, that's that's the problem.
We should be out there on the offense instead of playing defense all the time.
I just saw a chart comparing life expectancy.
Going back 50 years ago and to the present time and where 50 years ago the US had one of the 10 best ratings in terms of life expectancy I don't think we've been in the top 50 anymore.
Yeah, that's scary stuff.
I'm
sure
To
me Bob Euker just symbolizes the joy of summer.
Sitting on our front porch and bringing up a little transistor radio and dialing up the old AM station.
83 beautiful degrees of game time going.
Here it is.
Strike called and we are underway.
Cookin' out brought some hamburgers with family and friends, just always on in the background and became a familiar part of the family.
Swingin' a line here, Bayes set them off the Neuronauts!
Summer's out fishing and there's my dad and there's Bob on the radio callin' the
game.
Hey, strike him out!
His
old side stories that he would go on that's where the magic was
if you didn't enjoy baseball then you didn't like sliced bread either Brewer's head for Arizona on their up-and-coming trip out there You can hold a hot dog out your car when doing cooking can't hit a curve ball with four baseball bats in the tennis racket, too
All you got to do is turn the dial on you curve was always there through the radio I felt I was literally there throw it out motion to passion excitement in the
cold
Listen everybody Thanks for being Brewer fans And we'll get together again
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, you know, if you ever want to go down the rabbit hole with Bob Euker, just go to YouTube and go, you know, to the Johnny Carson, Johnny Carson and Bob Euker.
Yeah.
I mean, it was a regular guest.
You loved him.
Yeah.
Carson was a big fan and I think he had him on the Tonight Show more than any other guest over the years.
Amazing stuff.
And quite a day at Ampham Field.
Great stuff.
Yeah.
We're going to have more Brewer tickets to give away tomorrow too.
In fact, all this week we've got Brewer tickets to the Phillies game coming up and yeah.
You know, we talked about how NASA is going to get rid of put on the back burner climate science so they can explore space.
Again, you know, we don't have the rocket ships to do that.
But OK, I just want to get into what NASA is all about.
It says here, NASA's Earth observation satellites aren't optional.
They provide weather data the military needs for operations, farmers need for crops, and emergency responders need for disasters.
Shutting down climate monitoring could cripple national infrastructure and national security.
The 1958 Space Act explicitly mandates NASA study Earth's
atmosphere.
It's been a core mission for the last 67 years.
Earth science is less than 10% of NASA's budget and the technology directly supports Mars and lunar missions as well.
So there you go.
Put that on the back burner, huh?
A couple of minutes left here.
When I mention again, we're going to be on Pete Schwab's show tonight.
We're going to be hosting for Pete.
Pete is away on vacation or somewhere.
We know where Pete went.
I have no idea what he's doing.
I have no idea where Pete went.
I don't know.
He just disappeared.
We'll try to find out.
That's fine.
That's fine.
So tonight we're going to be talking to Tom and Christie.
We had them in earlier today on the show.
We're going to have them on tonight and talking to them.
And also Todd Alba is going to join us to talk about his memories of Bob Uker and the Brewers and everything else.
Yeah.
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