Helicopter Adventures and Haunted Libraries (Hour 1)

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Helicopter Adventures and Haunted Libraries (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Mon Aug 25, 2025

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WMDX 92.7.

It's John and Gorney in the morning.

Good morning.

It's Incredible out there this morning.

I mean it it's like 51 degrees, but doesn't feel like it at all Just wore a flannel shirt over a t-shirt, and I'm and I'm good, you know Yeah, what a day yesterday though my god.

Did you do the yarn work?

You promised

I did yes.

I mowed the yard.

Yes.

All right

Yeah, it was great.

It's perfect weather for lawn mowing.

It really was.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you do any lawn work?

I did not do any.

I just sat around doing two shows.

Four shows

actually.

Preparing for four shows.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We got a busy week ahead of us.

We do.

We do.

And then we're going to take a four day weekend.

That's

right.

So, yeah, that's the way the future looks at this point.

That's right.

We've got the Labor Day weekend next.

It's coming weekend.

It's filling in for Pete Schwab, but tonight and tomorrow.

That's right.

And we've got a lot of, uh, we've got a lot of tech news.

We've got a lot of movie star news, film news, got some great news.

And we have guests.

That's

right.

Why

do we have guests?

We do not have the writers though.

Okay.

We do not have my.

We don't have what?

We don't have my wife and her writing partner.

We were going to schedule them.

Oh.

But they ended up being very busy or just really, you know, not that interested.

So, you know, you could take your pick.

Your wife changed her mind.

No, she didn't actually

do

it.

I did because, you know,

we

have so much stuff.

We

really do have

a lot of stuff.

I bumped her.

Wow, that's that's some tough talk there.

Yeah, we're gonna reschedule her for the morning.

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

yes, we've got her on the list Okay, I gotta ask are you guys gonna take a nap in between shows?

So this show are you gonna then you're gonna take a nap and then do p-12 a show I

usually do a nap anyway.

Oh, no matter doesn't matter.

Okay

No, I'm gonna I'll take a nap in the dentist chair I have a dental appointment in between you do the morning show and the evening show So we'll see how well I can talk tonight Cuz I think I'm putting it they're putting a crown in

doing some cavity work and then putting a crown.

Is it a permanent crown or is it a

temporary at this point?

Uh, it's a permanent,

I

believe.

So they, yeah.

They have mold of, they took a mold, they're going to put

the thing in and sand it in.

I think so.

Pretty sure.

You don't know?

I don't,

you know, I just show up.

What?

You are mister, get the details.

I do.

I don't really, just tell me where to show up.

I'm there.

Okay.

I'd rather not know.

All right.

Well, you know, I'm at the point now that, uh, my last visit getting a crown, uh, and it was replacement crown for a bad one that's split in half, uh, with a material they shouldn't have used for molars.

But anyway, the point is the point is, is there a point?

Okay.

They, they said, okay, we're going to put a temporary crown in and you can get same day crowns.

And that prevents all of the extra shots the second time in.

But I was going by a previous age.

They don't do that, I suppose, anymore.

I'm not sure.

But when you go in for the second visit to put the real crown in, they don't give you the shots all over again.

They just kind of take their hand and just wiggle the temp off.

It just snaps off.

They don't need anything else.

They just clean it up a little bit with the new crown in.

And that was like, I mean, I was so relieved.

I can't even tell you, I went out and partied that night.

I just couldn't, I couldn't believe it.

And I'm thinking, man, times have really changed in dentistry.

So.

Modern dentistry has come a long way.

Now I've got to ask Dr. Chris if he does the same thing without insulting him.

You don't give any shots the second time.

You

know,

he's a guy that doesn't believe in drills or shots, right?

Wow.

Most of the time that's true.

Yes.

Okay.

He's

done both with my

dental structure.

No, it depends on what you need.

Of course.

I

mean, for what you needed, you needed the, you know,

the numbing

effect.

Need a

complete overall.

Yeah.

weather today.

Let's get to the weather because it's going to be beautiful.

It is all this week.

What is the sunrise time there, John?

According to the WMDX.

29

degrees already.

Sunrise time is 615.

We're not there yet.

Yeah.

And some set time is 744.

It

is going to be bright and beautiful all day long highs in the mid sixties.

That's what we're saying.

What is your watch?

Does your watch agree with that?

My watch

says... Well, it feels like 51, it says.

It's 53 on my watch, not 49.

And it doesn't... Well, it gives a predicted high here of... Actually, I wouldn't know.

Okay.

I

think about 67 is

predicted high.

Okay.

Now I can wear sweaters and you guys won't make fun of me, right?

No, we'll still make fun.

Thanks for pointing that

out.

You've been wearing sweaters all summer

long.

The hottest summer of Wisconsin ever.

I don't get it.

You know, my kid, he wears a hoodie when he goes out walking and it's 85 degrees out there.

What are you doing?

It's

comfy.

It's comfy.

No, it isn't.

All right.

Anyway, let's continue with the weather forecast.

Do you have

more?

No, not really.

Oh, okay.

Um, Tom and Christie Manus will be joining us.

These are the travel writers.

Uh, they're going to be, uh, with us in a little while, uh, talking about Wisconsin roadside travels.

And then they're also going to be with us tonight.

They are on the Pete Schwabba show, a nightlight in abbreviated version

this morning

at about

10 50 and, uh, or six 50 rather, and then tonight.

Yes.

So,

uh,

And

former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin will be joining us in our seven o'clock hour today.

We've got more Brewer's tickets to give away today in our seven o'clock hour.

Brewer's versus the Phillies coming up on Thursday, September 4th.

So be listening for your chance to win on that.

And what else?

We only got Pam Yonkey in a few minutes.

Was it the Bob Hucker tribute dedication

yesterday?

It was yesterday.

Bob Costas was there, hosting Robin Yount, I know.

They did a little pregame festivities there.

You watched

the game?

I did not watch the game.

I listened to the game on the radio.

Oh, OK.

All right.

But, yeah, it was quite the ceremony and quite the day, celebrating Bob Euker.

Well, we'll be playing a cut from that.

Oh.

All right.

All right.

We've got a new poll question up, John.

This went up, I guess, late Friday.

I think we saw this.

Do you support legalizing recreational marijuana in Wisconsin?

That's the poll question.

That's a good

question.

You can weigh in at wmdxradio.com right now.

Well, here are the possible answers.

Yeah, what are the possible answers?

A.

Okay, do you support legalizing recreational marijuana in Wisconsin?

Yes.

A is yes, but I forgot what the question was.

That's at 66% and B is absolutely not unless the price is low enough.

That's at 33% and the third

Question or the third possible answer is only if Trump lowers the price by 200% So they give you money back or more pot and that's got zero percent.

Oh

There's

no third

there's no fourth question, but now fourth one.

There's three.

I don't know.

There's three multiple choice There should be four we got to come up with a fourth one.

So the question blank the question that's winning right now is that they forgot the question That's the question that's winning

I know.

That's the answer.

Right.

Well, they must be high.

Oh, maybe.

Maybe so.

And the thing is, each one of those answers is actually yes.

Right.

There's really no no.

That's the way we worked it.

Yeah.

Yep.

Is it time for would you rather?

It is OK.

Would you rather not have would you rather?

It's time for what you rather.

Well, hit the music and let's see what happens.

Okay, so far so good.

Oh, there it is.

Okay, kind of fades in You know, you know, so keep

the mic

What his head in?

It keeps going up.

Oh, it does.

I'm too short.

We got to tighten that up.

Yeah All right.

All right.

Well, I

still can't get it up to my face here.

All right first question Would you rather have eyes in the back of your head or

Be able to taste with your fingers.

Um...

Who's first?

Whoever you want.

John's

up.

Taste with your fingers.

I think I've got quite

a

head of hair here.

I don't think I'd see anything.

I'm gonna go with the eyes in the back of the head.

Would you I think I'm gonna taste with my fingers.

I was really yeah Yeah, like right now if I want something I would just taste my fingers and be all good.

Could you use those fingers to tighten up the I know I have to keep holding it like this All right second question Would you rather work as a bouncer at a true at a nightclub?

Or as a personal assistant to a high maintenance celebrity

Think I would I think I would do bouncer I Would I want to be but I want to be a bouncer.

Yeah, you want to toss people out of Nightclubs my hopes and dreams that would never happen, but I might but I would love for it to happen

Well, it's it's put loose and fancy free if you go out there with a celebrity and yeah bouncing, but I don't know I I suppose locally I could do that

although

I was the subject of being bounced out at one time so

You know, I have a, it's just kind of a sore spot with me.

I don't want to be reminded of

it.

What did

you get thrown out?

Well, when I, when I, when I disputed having a ladies night.

Oh yeah.

Remember that?

I,

I

thought it was unfair to men.

You raised a ruckus.

I raised a big stink at the bar and I couldn't believe that they asked me to leave.

Seriously, I was being

very

reasonable.

They didn't want any trouble.

They saw you coming, they knew that's trouble.

What was the question again?

Would you rather work as a bouncer at a nightclub?

No.

Or as a personal assistant to a celebrity?

Well, I'm already a personal assistant to a celebrity.

Oh, there we go.

A semi-celebrity, I guess not really.

Celebrity, I

don't know.

I don't know.

What would you rather?

I would rather be a bouncer.

I want to be a bouncer at a nightclub, you know what I mean?

Like, to throw people out.

Like, John.

You're like, yeah, you could throw me out.

I don't think I would be able to do that, but... Really, you're just like... You're just itching for a fight?

Is that the deal?

Every now and then, you know?

I have, you know... I have rage inside me that I need to get

out.

Oh,

man.

Well, he's well-protected.

He's wearing

about eight sweaters

every time.

and a beanie and

everything.

You still haven't got that mic stand figured out, do you?

I still,

yeah.

Get the

one on, it's the notch on the top.

No, not that one.

Next one.

There you go.

It's tightened as tight as it can be.

Once we go in the break, I'll stand up and do some work on it and be a bouncer for that.

All right.

Again, Pam Yackey is going to be visiting with us here shortly.

And that's coming up in just a few moments from now.

And we'll have a chance for you to win Brewers and Phillies tickets to the Thursday, September 4th game.

That'll be in our seven o'clock hour.

Also, Tom and Christy Manus joining us, the travel writers, and former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.

It's all coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.

We're just getting started for this Monday, August 25th.

He's John.

I'm Gordy.

That's Dom in the producer's chair.

We'll be back with more in mere moments on WMDX.

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I was killing us.

Man, we're really freaking out here.

We've got idiocracy coming up in just a few moments with a whole lot of stuff that will kill you too.

Or at least

kill your American spirit.

Can't

wait.

Yeah.

Hey, just a reminder Saturday September 6th.

It's our listener appreciation event now We've given away all the VIP passes, but that doesn't mean that you can't come it's open It's free to the public.

It's Saturday September 6th starts at 3 o'clock and it's a downturns distilling in Cottage Grove The event again open to the public will be there believe Todd Alba will be there.

I think Maggie Dawn is

Making plans to be there and Brittany Merlot.

All right, and we'll be there China Gordy and Dom.

You'll be there, right?

I'll be there better be there.

I'll probably be anybody

and bite Pam Yaki

Well, we should invite Pam Yaki right now.

Yeah, she is.

All right.

Good morning, Pam

Pam Jahnke

What do you guys are you doing today?

We're

doing all right

We're good.

You're invited to the big listener appreciation party.

It's Saturday, September 6th at three o'clock at Doundren's Distilling.

If you can make it, we'd love to see you there.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah.

Oh, I'll definitely try to fit it in my calendar.

That's a Packers weekend.

So

I

Pam Jahnke

might be up by.

Oh,

yeah, that's right.

That's your big day.

That's

Pam Jahnke

true.

That's true.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, that's the opening.

Yeah, opening weekend.

Well, let's talk about milk since we're talking about the Packers and your big celebration.

The last thing you'll be serving up, but milk production.

Milk production is up.

I even heard a story about the way.

Well, whey is very important at this point now too as well.

So they're getting an extra jazz up in milk producing.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, that's the timing is actually not too bad.

I was talking with one of our analysts last week and well, most dairy farmers will ring their hands when they hear about milk production in a month going up more than 3%.

Mike North, who's a fellow I talk with quite often from Everag, a dairy consulting firm, he's down in Platteville.

He says, you know, really, if you look at it, the timing is not too bad.

Think about it, kids are going back to school.

So all of a sudden the milk need for our school districts, obviously he's going to skyrocket.

That's not a bad

for our dairy producers at this time of the year.

Also, we are getting into football season.

And

Pam Jahnke

although it may not be synonymous with dairy consumption, it sure does kind of toe the line pretty well when it comes to things like pizzas and all

of our

Pam Jahnke

tailgating activities.

So that definitely helps with milk consumption.

And then you alluded to the other one, whey.

So most people that have been around the dairy industry know that whey is a byproduct of the cheesemaking process.

Johnson's got an awful lot of it.

And the good news is that we have been finding all kinds of new values for way.

Once it's dried into powder, it's got a tremendous amount of protein.

So a lot of what is being used now is going into sport drinks.

If you read the side of many of your energy sport drinks, you will find it may say way and then some phrase after it, which basically means that it's been dried down, but with the.

Push for all of the Ozempics and those to GLP-1.

or whatever they're called that people are on to try to lose weight.

That is all about being on a protein driven diet.

So more and more consumers are looking for those high protein drinks or those high protein bars, whatever they can get their hands on.

And that has really buoyed up the demand on the way in the food industry side of things.

And that's actually turning into other spin products that you might have noticed.

Sometimes we call them

milk imitations.

But I not over the weekend, feature flavored oats as a be

diets and just want to kind of keep ticking off the weight loss.

That is a key component.

So although we did see a pretty sizable increase in milk production, not necessarily Wisconsin, but other regions that produce dairy.

Like I said, the timing for the use is not necessarily all that bad.

And believe it or not, although I cringe at the thought of bringing it up, this is also when some of our large

food processors and bakers will start coming to the market and laying in their supplies for the holidays because if you're if you're a Wisconsin cheese maker, you are thinking about what the holiday demand is going to look like for you and your employees and your supplies today because think about it.

You guys know this.

You enjoy it.

If you want an age cheddar or a medium cheddar or something like that.

Well, that baby's got to sit in an age.

for a certain period of time.

So a lot of the decisions that you and I will enjoy during the holidays are being made by our Wisconsin cheesemakers right now as far as the varieties they'll produce, what they're going to put into the aged caves now so that they can pull it out when we're ready to celebrate in a couple months.

Well,

that sounds wonderful.

I love cheese.

Pam, what about beef prices?

Yeah, they seem to keep climbing here.

Even McDonald's and steak and shake.

They're talking about the high beef prices.

What's

Pam Jahnke

happening?

It's not often that agriculture, per se, makes it into the headlines for some of those Fortune 500 companies, but it sure has been lately.

And you may notice it also in advertising.

Notice how more of the fast food chains are pushing anything but burgers.

They're pushing.

breakfast sandwiches, which normally would feature sausage or pork.

And in the boardrooms, they are talking about high costs of beef.

And now with a 75% tariff on Brazil, that's some of the kind of lean, we call it, that we blend in with ground beef.

Don't be surprised if you start to see more fast food menu tweaks coming to the big ones in the very near future as they go toward boardroom and earnings.

This is kind of scary too.

You know, they didn't mention Taco Bell.

Maybe they don't, maybe they don't use beef.

We got to

leave it there.

Pam, you have a great week.

We'll talk to you on Friday.

That sounds good.

All right.

That's Pam Yankee, the fabulous farm babe.

And in fact, the Midwest Food and Farm Report's coming up next.

And then we're back with Idiocracy for Monday.

John Peterson, Gordy Young, coming right back on WMDX.

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

What an idiot.

The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

What?

What the f*** is going

on

around here?

Idiocracy for the smartest guy in the world.

You're pretty dumb sometimes

All the time and we prove it each and every day during Idiocracy

it's John and Gordy on 92.7 WMDX Clear skies this morning.

It's gonna be beautiful all day long sunshine Highs in the mid 60s very cool this morning just about 50 degrees You know a real light jacket or maybe a

A heavy shirt over your T-shirt.

Just a heavy

flannel shirt,

just throw it over

a T-shirt.

Yeah, you'll be all set.

Or

wear

a sweater all the time.

Hoodie.

Like Don.

Like Don.

I'm catching really bad strays here in this morning.

I hate Mondays.

Can you

tighten that thing up or are you still holding it?

I tried to during the break, but it

still didn't work.

These kids that come in here and do their shows over the weekends.

Look at this.

Maxing.

Maxing.

I gotta talk to Rocker about this.

Yeah.

Well, you know just proves my point, you know get the piston type Mike booms My sons are on it, you know, yeah They podcast they do their thing they talk to their friends

over the

internet And they have the greatest mics the greatest Mike booms, you know, they know what to buy.

Yes Keep telling him here go to the pistons, you know get rid of the springs and the little adjust nobody listens to you

You just walk around mumbling and ranting and raving.

Nobody pays any attention to you.

Why do you even... I don't know.

I know.

That's true.

Coming up in about 20 minutes, Tom and Christy Manus will join us talking about roadside attractions around Wisconsin.

And not only are they joining us this morning, they're going to join us this evening when we're filling in for Pete Schwabba on The Nightlight Show.

You got a lot of stuff to contribute to yeah, it's gonna be wonderful.

All right.

Let's talk

about

let's talk about The Christian faith here in his name foundation Trashes Jesus agenda in the name of Trump nothing surprising here.

What all right now Fox News Rachel Campos Duffy Talk to Jack Brewer

He's the Jack Brewer of the Jack Brewer Foundation The foundation's program unapologetically follows the commandments of Jesus Christ now I thought it was always Moses with the commandments But I guess you know Jesus somewhere along the way had a tablet that he was jotting stuff down

Anyway, it's surprising we haven't heard much about this group, the Jack Brewer Foundation.

I've never heard

of them.

After Trump closed the USAID, the Jack Brewer Foundation said nothing, even though they provide a similar service, providing food, orphan care, emergency rescue, and world relief stuff.

Maybe supporting Trump's America First agenda, which the Jack Brewer Foundation claims won't blindly dole out money without a return for the American people, like Jesus preaches, by the way, and that foreign assistance should be justified by making America safer, stronger, and more prosperous.

Oh boy, does that sound like Jesus or what?

Anyway, let's listen to Jack Brewer himself talk about the words of Jesus.

All right.

So what's the answer?

I mean, I know you have your Jack Brewer Foundation.

You work with kids after school.

But there's no substitute for family.

What can the government do?

What can the culture do?

It starts locally, first off in these schools.

These schools have to start back disciplining kids.

They took the paddle out of the school and everything collapsed.

We got to get the paddle back, Rachel.

Listen, corporal punishment is the only way when you have a knucklehead kid that's willing to rob you or me at gunpoint with a car full of kids or anyone else.

You see, these things don't happen in states like Florida.

You know why?

Because if you car jack me,

I'm liable to shoot you, no matter what your age is.

And that happens in Red Street.

When you take the Second Amendment away from so many citizens in these liberal cities, they can't protect these cells.

And so now these kids that don't have a fear of God, they're emboldened by the culture, by the music that they listen to, by the movies that they watch, by the culture that they take into their spirit, right?

None of these kids go to church on Sunday morning.

These kids don't have a fear of God.

These kids don't think about heaven and hell.

And that's the point.

problem in our nation.

We've let these liberals go so deep into removing God from schools.

Now these kids don't have spirituality.

We got to put the Ten Commandments back in our schools.

We got to get the fear of God back into the children of America, particularly the young black boys that look just like me and my son, where 71% of these kids are born without a father in a home.

Every black man in America should feel despicable.

about the reality that our culture right now is terrorizing the streets of America.

All right.

Well, there you go again.

There's a light in

there.

Paddle back into the schools, I think.

And, you know, if you do something wrong, you know, people should have firearms and kill you.

So, you know, Jesus has taught all of this in the New Testament, a part that I missed somewhere along the way.

I don't remember that.

Sunday school.

So, you know,

And I'm thinking I'm thinking Smithsonian here, you know Trump wants to make the Smithsonian in American history more positive, right?

Did anybody hear a positive message in any of that?

I don't think

so.

It was pretty depressing.

All right, but that's the the Jack

Brewer Foundation Well, he was talking about putting the Ten Commandments back in the school.

I don't remember the Ten Commandments being in the schools when we were kids Yeah, I don't

remember it.

There must have been a time when it was

in every

school.

I remember the Kledge of Allegiance

That was it.

That's where they mentioned

God.

They still do that, I

think.

Yeah.

Well, okay.

Good point, Gordy.

Excellent point.

All right, let's go to the Christian nationalism, okay?

We've seen the rise of Christian nationalism before but never an administration that backs the idea wholeheartedly.

Now Mother Jones magazine investigates the Christian nationalist movement that aspires to take over government at all levels from school boards and state legislatures to Congress and the Supreme Court.

Let's

So let's find out more from Mother Jones.

Okay.

Yes, there are Christian nationalist influencers.

Let me introduce you to the Theo Bros.

We can't force people to have faith in Christ, but we can as a people order that.

I'd rather have a Christian monarchy.

than our current state of affairs.

We could argue that now is a time to arms again.

So the Theobros are a group of mostly millennial Christian pastors and influencers.

Many of them, most of them even will tell you that they are that they are Christian nationalists.

We are indeed Christian nationalists.

They're purposefully extreme and extremely online.

So they're obviously connected to JD Vance.

There's this group called the Rockbridge Network of JD Vance.

is was a founder, Peter Thiel is involved, and I think it's important to say that not all of them hold every belief.

That being said, I think some common beliefs that I have encountered are that we should be repealing the 19th Amendment.

They'll talk about the dead Constitution and how the Ten Commandments should take its place.

I want a Christian nation.

more than a republic.

Some of

them talk about prison reform and by prison reform they mean

public flogging instead of prison.

Some of them talk about executing heretics.

Involved in that is also execution of gay people.

America is a nation.

It is a group of people with a common history and a common

future.

Doug Wilson is sort of like the boomer who passed the torch.

He has sort of built his own little Christian fiefdom in Moscow, Idaho.

Creating a legal framework in which people could create intentional communities where they could build something.

It would be a good idea to allow people to experiment.

But he's also built this other type of blueprint for Christian nationalist influencing.

The left is the cancer and Trump is the chemo.

There you go.

There you go.

He's taking some

of

these ideas.

He's really making them for a broader audience and for a younger audience.

Godly women want to feed their men.

Godly women are designed to make the sandwiches.

What?

When women were granted the right to vote, we were so much we thought we were giving the franchise to women.

in fact, taking it away from families.

And just for the record, you know, yeah, I think the 19th Amendment should be repealed.

I think that because, well, first and

foremost, because I'm a Christian.

If we had a Christian nation and women could vote, then within 50 years we would no longer have a Christian nation.

You bought into an idea that it's liberating to leave an eight-week-old baby to go work 90 hours a week at Goldman Sachs.

You've been had.

You have women who think that truly the liberationist path is to spend 90 hours a week working in a cubicle at McKinsey instead of starting a family and having children.

To me, what it is, is sort of a value system to replace the fact that they're all fundamentally atheist, diagnostic.

The people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids.

There's so much more to this story, including connections to Project 2025, more about the web of JD Vance and Theo Bros.

that I can't even dream of touching on in a video like this.

Really?

So go read Keira Butler's full piece at MotherJones.com.

Very.

So, check it out if you want to get even more depressed.

Apparently they don't like women too much.

Apparently not.

Yeah.

Don't want them to vote, don't we?

Yeah.

Just have

kids and stay home.

In the old days, Chris Hedges, author and journalist, did stories about dominionism and that is where religious folk

put together these huge communities and they wanted to create cities, massive cities that were run by the Bible, Jesus, and therefore the Constitution.

Laws that are developed in this country no longer apply right because they have the freedom of religion and none of these laws apply in their communities That's a dominionism.

So that kind of faded away, but no boy.

It's coming back with the project 2025 here.

It's craziness.

Yeah,

I

know

it's scary

That's what it is.

Yeah.

Uh, all right.

Let's, uh, let's move on.

So there's a current story, which is just blowing my mind.

I just can't believe this.

There is a memo out to the Democrats.

Boy, I tell you, they're bumping in the walls.

Anyway, they have a list of words Democrats should stop saying.

and come up with this list.

I don't know.

I don't know and I don't care.

They're just bumping into walls as usual.

What is going on with these people?

All you have to do is just be honest, tell it like it is.

I mean, you have the easiest agenda in the world at this point.

Tell me the Trump administration hasn't handed you the world in issues.

Anyway, here are the words not to be said.

Body shaming, sis gender.

Holding space.

I may have even heard of that one.

And never say LGBTQIA plus or intersectionality.

Incorporated people.

Systems of oppression.

The unhoused never mentioned that.

Or, and this is a good one, don't bring up pregnant people.

What?

I don't know what that means, you know, maybe there's

another word

for, you know, maybe they don't like the people part of it, right?

Maybe.

That's

pretty, that's

kind of

a reach.

That's getting out of the weeds, isn't it?

That

means a reach.

You know, why, here's the other thing, and I'm sorry to bring this up to the Democrats, but a lot of these terms are used by mega.

Yeah, against of against liberals and progressives and pro-democracy individuals, right?

So it's not it's not our language.

This is the language they've chosen for us.

So get get off of this

topic.

Yeah,

it's too much

universal health care.

Yeah, take it because this is going to affect every American at the end of this year.

We're going to be paying huge prices for health care and people are going to be angry.

Get the issue now.

All right.

Hey, coming up, it's Tom and Christy Manus will be joining us.

They have authored a book about Wisconsin roadside attractions and we'll be talking to them in just a few minutes.

It's all coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.

WMDX coming right back.

Kathryn Lake

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See beautiful sunshine.

It's gonna be bright and sunny all day long highs in the mid sixties So a little taste of fall here today right now 51 degrees Time for us to welcome in Tom and Christie Manis Back for your second appearance here on the show.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good so much fun the last time talking about your books We had to have a back in that's good stuff.

You have

two books here

historic Wisconsin roadsides and secret Wisconsin.

Yeah.

Which would, did we get into secret Wisconsin last time?

Well, I

think they've got something even more urgently.

What?

On the agenda here.

What?

What do you want to find out?

Something you just recently did that.

We, we did.

So.

Oh yeah, what happened?

So we had a little different experience.

Originally we were at the Chippewa Valley Air Show and and we had

planned right in B 25 medium bomber, which is World War two from the CAF and St.

Paul, which was which was incredible.

I mean, I'm a huge World War two plane fan.

And so I was really pumped up, really excited.

And and the B 25 flew in the crew came in and and we got to the point I had the jumpsuit on.

And I was so excited.

And then they had an engine problem where they something was in the fuel line.

And it was just something minor.

But then

I mean, I was ready to board.

Wow.

And they called it off.

Oh, no.

Yeah, but if you think about it, the plane has an engine problem.

Do you really want to go on it?

I

didn't really want him

getting on this plane.

I was

really going to take a chance.

I mean, they said it was minor, you know?

Yeah.

They just flew in.

I mean, so.

Yeah.

But she's got a good point.

You have really good point.

Right?

I wasn't

going.

Yeah.

Oh, I was I was so ready.

I mean, this is like a chance of lifetime.

Yeah.

And I read all the books in the library.

You know, I knew all my planes.

I knew everything about me.

And I was so excited.

And this is one of the best restored planes out there.

So I was really excited.

But but disappointed.

So so in comes, we're just sitting there, you know, kind of waiting.

And then I, I hear we start flying in from a distance.

And if you know, you know, you see in the movies and stuff, you hear the the blades coming in from

way far out, and then they came in and landed.

And I was busy looking at the B-25, taking photos.

So

I was talking to the pilot.

The pilot walked over from this Huey.

And he said, you want to go for a ride?

And I'm like, yeah.

Yeah.

I

didn't even think about it.

I'm scared to death of heights.

I didn't even think about it.

We started walking.

I grabbed him.

I said, we're going.

We get over there.

How does that Huey look?

Well, what does it look like for a helicopter?

That's one of those big ones.

That's the one with the big blades, right?

No.

Yes, well, it's Vietnam.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And this particularly Huey was from the helicopter conservancy in New Richmond, which is almost to the Twin Cities.

And it's one of the

last ones, I guess.

It's they believe it's the oldest Huey flying from the Vietnam War.

Wow.

Right.

Yeah.

So we walked over across the tarmac.

And I didn't realize how tall they are.

And I asked the guy, I said,

No, you have a step stool, right?

And

he said, he said, you know, it's good when he says, ma'am, ma'am, no, we do not have a step stool.

So

I should meet up there.

And it was an experience of a lifetime.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I loved it.

Scared of heights and everything.

They don't shut the doors.

I wasn't nervous.

I thought it was the best thing ever.

Yeah.

He was scared to death.

Yeah, but things like that don't bother me.

But what scared me was, OK, we're flying with the doors open.

Yes, yes.

Are you standing in the door, actually?

We're sitting next to the door.

Yeah, but

the doors are there.

Yeah, it's open.

And I had an outside.

I told her to go inside.

I knew she wasn't crazy about heights.

And I'm like, OK, I'll take the outside.

I would have taken the outside after knowing how it was.

It

was

so fun.

And the seat is literally inches from the doors open, you know, so but but what really got me was when they started showing us the seat belts Now first of all imagine a like, you know a mousetrap with a lover.

Yeah, you know that snaps Okay, so the seat belts come together, but they have this little lover that's in a mousetrap that has a hook

that goes through the opposite side, just a hole, but this little little mousetrap metal thing snaps into a just a groove and another piece of metal, and it just kind of clicks in there.

And he's like, okay, you know, and this was all you do.

I'm

like, well,

that's simple, because I'm like, where's the like shoulder harnesses, right?

He's like, well, well, there's no shoulder harnesses.

This is it.

But, and here's where it really got me.

So it

doesn't look really strong or anything like that, kind of

scary looking?

Well, it's solid, it's durable, but what got me was when you snap that little lever that holds the hook in, it just barely snaps in.

I mean, we're talking about, you know, a half a moon where it just kind of sits in, but when he said, be careful, you know, because if you bump it, it'll come loose.

And I'm like, I'm flying.

in this thing and so I'm holding my elbows up you know because I'm like oh I don't want to hit it especially when we're turning we're in the air we're two thousand feet off the ground

and

we're returning we're leaning on my side looking over I'm like I'm holding my elbows up I'm like oh don't hit it don't hit it you know because because he showed us how easy it was just to kind of snap it

out.

Well come on Tom this thing has been proven itself over the last

70 years.

Oh yeah it has but I don't want anything to happen on

to the first time with me, you know, because it just- Where does it

work?

Yeah, so, you know, maybe it was too old.

Oh,

that's

wild.

I was

just excited we found something that he's scared of.

Yeah, oh, okay.

You know,

that and ghosts.

Well,

let me ask you about that because you just mentioned being scared.

Have you had one of those experiences, a ghostly experience, something that was really scary in either Secret Wisconsin or Historic Wisconsin road sides?

Only got a minute left here.

Just one little story.

Just experienced on Friday.

Yeah, we were down in Racine at the library looking at the little golden books.

Everybody knows what the little

golden

books are.

Okay, so they have the only collection and they're locked in a cabinet.

And they said that the paranormal explorers had been there and hit on the cabinet.

And we couldn't get the cabinet open.

Nobody in the library, everybody had the key, nobody could open it.

We were doing an interview for, we do a TV segment with What's Brewing NBC in Milwaukee.

And the whole crew was trying to get it open.

And we're like, just leave it alone.

It's fine, we don't want to open it.

Can you guys stick around a couple more minutes?

Of course

you can,

okay.

We're gonna take a news break here.

We'll be back with more of John and Gordy in the morning with Tom and Christine Manis after this.

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