Chillin’ with Chuck and Chaos

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Chillin’ with Chuck and Chaos

John & Gordy · Fri Aug 22, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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All right.

Falling asleep now.

Our salute to Chuck Mangione.

Yes.

Morning.

Start out our Friday.

Good morning.

And a good morning to you.

What a beautiful day so far, right?

I

mean, this

is just unbelievable.

Look at the skies.

They're nice and

clear.

Just a few very light clouds in the distance.

That's right.

Yes.

Yes.

Very, very mellow way to wake up this

morning.

Just a little technical glitch.

Just to let you know that

it's a

little hiccup.

It wasn't something that you were dreaming.

Because I know waking up to Chuck Mangio was something I did and I'll never forget those days.

That was nice soothing music though.

Chuck just recently passed away.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know,

just maybe a month ago or so.

This is a guy who's never heard Chuck Mangio.

Yeah.

No, it's not soothing music.

It's really irritating.

It's just as bad as anything I remember in the past.

So, I mean, talk about being overplayed, right?

I think it was in every commercial.

Oh, man.

Yeah, that song.

Oh, yes.

Whenever that came out in the late 70s, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was just on all the time.

Yeah, it was.

Which was unusual even back then for an instrumental to make it up the charts.

Yeah.

Back then on your... Instrumental for a big deal

at

that point.

Right.

That's when they started phasing out the instrumental

kit.

After that song.

Maybe that killed it, right?

That pretty much killed the instrumental as a thing.

Well, I remember playing that song at Nosium at WAUK in Waukesha.

Yeah, I played it at WNNO in Wisconsin Dells.

That

was a killer for me.

Those were the days.

Thank you, Tom.

I think you've got our paperwork in order here.

Our actual Civic Media station is a former elevator music station.

OK.

Well, that was fun back then.

What a way to start a Friday.

Hey, we had a good time at Night Market last night in Madison.

We did.

Say hello to a lot of great people.

Great time.

Going out with Art Paul Schlauser was there.

Yep.

Talked to him for a little while.

Everything's good with him.

Yeah.

And it was terrific.

We had a lot of people last night.

It wasn't as crowded as maybe the previous Night Markets, but still pretty good crowd.

Yeah.

Well, you know, our contest

A spinner, what did we call it?

The wheel?

The wheel, the spinning wheel.

The

spinning wheel.

It's not a roulette wheel.

It broke

eventually.

It broke a couple of times, brand new.

It broke.

What we have to do, that booth, about two booths away from us, they have a four foot radius spinning wheel.

And it's just like, you know, I mean, you could put a person on there and throw knives at it.

It's so big.

Yeah,

kind of.

Pails in ours kind of pales in comparison.

Yes.

Yes, it does channel 27 is a big wheel to when they when they show up at a booth that like you know, I don't

know

what one of the downtown Farmers markets or whatever whatever wherever they show up.

I don't know what art art fair on the square

Hey, I just thought of the right little flapper

what that

is used for the wheel There's a little flapper

right

that keeps breaking

That's the thing and

and that that needs to work or else the wheel just keeps going forever and ever

the plastic.

Yeah, I know.

But I got I just I just thought of it.

I just thought of it.

What

should it be?

A piece of thick leather.

Oh, that one.

Yeah.

Yeah, kind of that would be a tough leather.

Yeah.

Well, any kind of leather,

but

thick leather,

that would

do it.

Right.

I think so.

We never break

that.

We'll have to workshop that or wear it out.

It's 19 minutes past the hour.

We're just getting going on Friday morning.

Rocker will be in later.

Also, we'll check in with Savannah Tomay Olson.

It's John and Gordy in the morning.

92.7

Kathryn Lake

WMDX.

We

Pam Jahnke

could muster the troops.

Yeah, let's let's talk about that and it's

corn corn maze season

Yeah, let's

talk about that pretty cool

boy.

I

don't know We got the action oh

right

here wmdx 92.7 John and Gordy

and

22 minutes past the hour.

Nice clear start this morning.

A few very light high clouds.

59 degrees.

Very cool outside.

High about 76 today.

It's

63

right now.

It doesn't feel like it.

63 over there.

Let's check in with Pam Yonkey.

Fabulous Farm Babe.

Good morning Pam.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, buddy's good morning, and it sounds like by the end of the weekend in the north woods They could have temperatures in the upper 50s when they wake up.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that sounds great.

That might be a daytime high Yeah, well, here's the thing we've had such a hot summer and rainy summer and and swampy like summer Let's get some cold temperatures back in here.

Yeah, it's time for

Pam Jahnke

fun

be be careful what you wish for because my the long term weather forecast for Wisconsin is that like starting next week temperatures are going to drop and we're going to dry out.

So all of a sudden what in what has been the dog days days of August and remember my farmers still need that heat to finish off this crop.

we still need the sunshine to finish off soybeans so you know this is a pretty steep about face and it's what the 22nd of August so we still got a good week to go before we would even expect this to enter in but I'm with you guys I'm ready for a break from the humidity and

And I can walk outside and breathe in this.

Well, that's true.

I'm wrong.

Let's put it off for another week or two.

I want the farmers to get their crops in.

Yeah, they got to do that.

All right, let's talk about something that we're kind of warned about, that rural community hospitals and clinics are going out of business because they can't afford to be out there to not get the federal funding anymore.

But we've got a different situation happen in Lafayette County.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, and it's kind of cool because like you say, it really goes in the face of what everybody's been talking about yesterday was kind of the public grand opening for the Lafayette Hospital and clinic in Darlington.

Now let's recognize that Lafayette County is one of the most rural counties in Wisconsin.

The building they replaced was built back in 1952 and had relatively little upgrades in that time because

of lack of funding.

You just don't know what's going to be happening with staffing.

So Jack Sauer, who is the chairman of the county board and also chairman of the hospital committee, said it was probably one of the proudest moments in his 24 years in public service to be able to get this project done.

And it took a lot of collaboration.

Compure Financial, which is an ag lender, stepped in and started working to secure funds through the U.S.

Department of Agriculture and kind of convert them into construction

construction loans, about $51 million was needed just for construction.

And then stop and think about everything that goes into a hospital, including technology and staffing.

Stowers said they also were very astute to make sure that they were going to have the people in place.

So to attract doctors to rural areas, you always have to put a carrot on the stick.

Well, for Lafayette Hospital, it was offering them a $50,000, basically scholarship.

to help against their education costs if they committed to coming to Lafayette and staying there.

They're turning into the regional source as a trauma for hospital, which means they can basically handle some trauma, get everybody prepped and set before they're moving on to a little bit more of an elaborate hospital.

But it's turned into a regional resource.

And like I said, I just can't say enough about how they worked.

hard collaborating with everybody, you know, when it comes to politicians, everybody's ready to put their hand out, but it took a lot of them to collaborate to get the funding in place.

So well done.

Ben Jarbo, one of my assistants was down there for all the fun yesterday.

It's an example of how it can happen if you put the right people at the table.

What communities are in Lafayette County just to give people an idea of where it is in

Pam Jahnke

Wisconsin?

The radius that it would reach would be Darlington, Fenimore, Mineral Point, also as far as into Western Green County.

They're also pulling, obviously, from Grant County.

I mean, really, if you look at it on a map, folks, you're going to realize there ain't much here.

And now it will be the draw.

Now, will that put a strangle on some of the other hospitals in the area?

Perhaps.

Do I expect other communities in that area to try to match them?

Probably not.

but to be able to have one go-to facility that's well staffed, has the technology and the facilities, that is a wonderful story for rural Wisconsin

and

Pam Jahnke

southwest Wisconsin.

We need some predictability and that's what this hospital offers.

Pam Jahnke

Well, you know, just stop and think about it, fellas.

We talk about ambulance services not being

able

Pam Jahnke

to find volunteers for your departments.

Now, if you're in southwest Wisconsin and you make a call 9-1-1,

You may wait, I've talked to you about this before, 45 minutes to an hour before they can respond.

When you put a facility like Lafayette Hospital in Darlington, now all of a sudden instead of that ambulance having to make a run from...

you know, rural Southwest Wisconsin all the way into Madison, or even

into

Pam Jahnke

a closer facility in Iowa County.

I mean, that's a life and death situation for people.

It is.

Pam, we only got a minute or so left here, but we want to talk a little bit about corn mazes.

It's that time of year they're going to start popping up, right?

Yeah, people get lost.

Yeah, you bet.

Pam Jahnke

That they do.

And that's part of the goal.

I'll tell you what, we'll tease them today and talk more about it on Monday, but the corn mazes are coming together very, very well.

Monday, we will talk exactly about the forethought that has to go into creating these corn mazes.

They don't just pop up.

when somebody comes up with an idea.

This is something that was constructed on paper last fall, was planted specifically this spring, and now is being literally carved out of cornfields as we speak.

One of them, Trinen Farms up in Lodi.

ready with a Wisconsin theme to greet you this year.

We'll talk more about that on Monday.

All right.

And we'll also find out on Monday about the hemp harvest that's ready to happen.

Yeah, right.

Or maybe it's already underway, right?

The field burns are

wonderful.

I just love them.

OK.

All right, Pam, have a great weekend.

We'll talk to you Monday.

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, you guys too.

Enjoy it.

All right.

Yes, the fabulous farm, babe.

Pam Yankee at the Midwest.

Farm and Food Report coming up right around the corner.

Also, Rocker in the studio later with the Maxing preview.

Of course, you know, our idiocracy is in the wings.

That's next.

Stay around.

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All right, so let's get to idiocracy.

How's that?

Let's get to it.

Let's do it.

Hit the idiocracy button.

Okay.

As the

21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.

with no natural predators to thin the herd.

It began to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

What an idiot!

Oh, what a loser!

Now listen, Grapehead.

I'll explain it so even you can understand it.

Idiocracy!

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Woo!

How

dumb are you?

Dangerously dumb.

And, you know, what I'm thinking here is the first story is just across the wire here.

Oh boy.

Yeah, the latest COVID variant, Dub Stratus, is dominating Ireland at this point.

It is very, very contagious, but it is not more dangerous than the virus itself that's out there and has been out there for some time.

But as you know,

RFK Jr.

has banned any kind of advancement in the mRNA vaccine, so we may not see a different vaccine for us to get in order to fight off this new variant, Stratus.

That's what it's called.

It's all up to RFK Jr.

Yes, I'm so glad he's up there.

Yeah.

Well, you know that means that because they're not really doing anything about it We can't really get the other vaccine as well just a booster Unless we pay for it out of pocket.

Is that

right?

That's really the product.

That's the biggest problem we have.

Oh, that's just making us pay for everything.

Okay.

All right.

Um, that's depressing, but okay

There's more?

Yes, there is a lot more.

There's talk now that maybe somewhere along the way the Democrats should have their own Stephen Miller.

We really want that?

Yeah, apparently we should have somebody that ruthless and cold and dangerous on the Democratic side of the aisle.

I don't know.

I mean, it's just talk so far.

We

don't have anybody likes, there's nobody like Stephen Miller.

You know, maybe that should be the question in the morning.

Who's like Stephen Miller on the Democratic side of the aisle?

Yeah.

Somebody, please.

Yeah, tell us.

Oh, God.

And now get this, you know, with the occupation of DC and businesses losing a lot of business, no one's going out because they, I guess, don't want to walk around Humvees and be challenged by

National Guard or police or, you know, Marines, whoever is showing up.

And by the way, the red states are sending their National Guard to DC, right?

I heard somebody mention this and I thought, wow, oh, that is it.

This is like the North and the South.

Yes, it's a civil war.

That's what they're

setting it up to be.

Those states are sending their troops in to the North.

Yes.

Yes,

they are.

You know, that was a scary thought.

I'm still trying to deal with that, wrapping my head around that.

Anyway, Trump has now promised that he's going to go out with these forces.

Is

he?

Into other cities.

He's

going

to be out there.

Remember, he went out.

Yeah.

He went out with, you know, the National Guard

to see how

it

works.

Yeah, walking around DC, checking

everything

out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, maybe you should strap a rifle over his shoulder and see how that looks.

No.

Don't give him

any ideas.

No,

don't do

that.

No, sir, please.

No, you don't know how to operate that thing.

Please just leave it there.

Well, you know, one of the big things about this redistricting problem that we have right now, and this is cut 169, you know, with the redistricting in Texas.

Well, we've been talking about maybe matching that with all the Democratic states, but

get

this.

I mean, what they have done in the redistricting could also be illegal.

and unconstitutional, let's listen to this cut.

In this proposal, a Hispanic Texan has one-third the political value of a white Texan under this plan, and a black Texan one-fifth.

It would take three Hispanics to equal the representation of one white Texan and five black Texans to equal the value of one white Texan.

Under these lines, Texas Hispanics will be the most underrepresented population group in all 50 states.

The level of underrepresentation will far exceed what even conservative courts have struck down in Louisiana, Alabama, and just yesterday in

Mississippi.

That

is

still in it like it is.

So that's obviously, I would assume, going to be challenged to the Supreme Court right away.

I guess so, yeah.

And we'll see.

Go right on.

Yeah, and of course, you know, California is approved, redistricting, now it goes to the voters to approve.

We're just getting, you know, a hint at some of the polling and whether, you know, Californians are all for this or want to go with it this time around.

Yeah, and they don't vote on this until early November.

Yeah, November.

So yikes.

So it'll be polling

all the way

up to that point, which I just, I'm not looking forward to this.

Well, who

is?

But Texas started all this mess.

So here we go.

I know.

Strap

in.

See, this is just, you know, just part of the operation of chaos that they're putting in place.

Right.

Everything they do is just chaotic.

well they want to stir it up and you know and then when we finally get around to the presidential election you know if all these states have you know some of them have redistricted some of them not it's it is going to be chaotic when they go to count the votes and then there will be

Court challenges again, like should they have redistricted, I mean you'll all go up to the Supreme Court again.

They're

doing everything they want and then of course going to court and challenging it all the way up to the Supreme Court and then getting their way.

Right.

Like this ruling that came out yesterday from the Supreme Court.

They rule that the Trump administration can move forward with slashing hundreds of millions of dollars in federal research funding as part of its efforts to roll back diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.

What why is that illegal?

Why can't you do I don't understand how they can just say?

Oh, yeah, the Supreme Court Letting this go through right and they're gonna allow all these other cases of course in the lower courts You know work their way up to the Supreme Court again and ask this same question, but it was a 5-4 decision and And it's just a Robert sided with the Liberals this time around.

Okay.

Uh-huh.

So anyway, this

is

again, this is the NIH the National

Institute of Health being cut dramatically.

The majority's unsigned order frees the administration to proceed with canceling grants already targeted for elimination while leaving in place restrictions on the administration's guidance for the future.

And this is outrageous because we've got, you know, studies, drugs, everything in midpoint, you know, three quarters of the way through almost finished research.

Yeah, you can't just

stop it.

And they're going to

drop it.

They're going to stop

it.

Ridiculous we're going I mean

this is going to delay advancements in treatment for disease by 10 years or so

Wow.

And then we're leaving up all these drugs to other nations in order to have them research it, own the patents, and then we'll be paying for that as well.

This is a disaster.

And we can thank the Supreme Court for this.

But of course, the Trump administration, their goal, of course, is to challenge everything in court

and take

it up to the Supreme Court

and get an answer that they

like, right?

Well, I know it's outrageous.

You know, I hear Stephanie Miller kind of fumbling around like we're doing right now.

Like, what's next, you know?

Well, we have some breaking news this morning.

Yeah, we do.

Emergency,

emergency.

Batman

speaking.

Warning all of you to brace yourselves for big news.

OK, here we go.

Get this CNN now reporting the FBI is conducting a search at John Bolton's home.

Well get those enemies.

Yeah, mr. Mustache.

Yeah, they're gonna Wow, they're checking his yeah, they're just going right

through something how they complained and whined how Biden was weaponizing the administration.

Yeah

weaponizing government against all their enemies What do you think is happening right now?

Well, this isn't a mystery.

We're

It's not like we're not seeing this in front of our very eyes.

And what could they possibly find at John Bolton's house?

Yes.

That the FBI has to go in there with search warrants and rifle through everything, like documents or something.

What do they look for?

Who knows?

He's not

doing anything.

They're just

intimidating

him.

They're

just, it's just

intimidating.

Yeah, this is ridiculous.

All right, I want to get into something from my...

Eric Erickson, you know, he was a pundit for a while and then there because I don't know why they got rid of Mike.

I kind of enjoyed his right wing positioning.

But

anyway, he's out there and he is not happy with the government.

You know, he said that the government is now dipping into socialism by taking part ownership of Intel.

All right, let's check out 172 here.

The U.S.

government would become the largest shareholder of Intel.

This is actual socialism happening by a Republican administration.

This is a horrible precedent.

This is socialism.

All of you people were freaked out about Memdami in New York City wanting government run grocery stores and saying the people need to seize the means of production.

That's what Harold Lutnik is doing right now.

Saying that the government must seize the controlling interest in Intel, the means of production in order to get government money.

You can't just be against socialism when the left does it.

There you go.

He was adamant at the end there.

Well, you know again, we've talked about this this is projection and it seems like that's all the right wing is about is projection Yeah, they're angry that the Democrats might be doing something before them Of course, it doesn't even occur the Democrats to have like FEMA camps We're not really thinking about that stuff, but they're angry and they make up this thing where you know Democrats are building FEMA camps to how is all the Republicans they don't like

like, which has not ever have been a thought in our head.

But, you know, they were angry about it.

Now they're able to at least start that project on their own.

So.

Wonderful.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

You know, there's really not much left, right?

We're just

stuck in bizarro world every single day.

We are.

This is just outrageous stuff.

And I

don't even know if I should get into the next topic because we have

very

little time

here.

Got about a

minute

here.

But

we, you know, we've got a, I got a really interesting story coming up after seven o'clock.

I think

this

is really, really good.

It is about mega projection.

And we've got the right wing turning onto the fact that, hey, wait a minute, they're talking about us now.

You know what I mean?

The right wing is coming undone by Trump's dictatorship.

This is really good stuff coming

up next hour.

Got that coming up, and also we'll be talking with Rocker in our next hour with a Maxing preview.

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That's good stuff, isn't it?

That's Bob Yooker, of course, singing the Seville Vinnie stretch at Wrigley Field.

And that was last night.

They honored Bob Yooker last night.

Brewer's, of course, because of Bob Yooker's song, won.

Yes,

they won

four to one

at

Wrigley.

But anyway, I thought it was wonderful.

You know, the crowd gets into it.

There are no booze.

People

go along

with it because they really respect Bob Yooker.

Oh,

yeah.

And the rivalry, I think they love the rivalry.

They sure do, right?

Yeah.

And in fact, we've got some Brewer tickets to give away here.

All right.

See how it all works together.

It does.

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All

right, let's continue with idiocracy here.

Oh, boy.

What do we

have?

Here's the video of the moment.

This is Texas State Representative Nicole Collier.

She was caught in the bathroom and threatened with a felony for being in the bathroom.

This is before the vote where they approved redistricting.

Let's listen to cut 173 and by the way she was on a conference call with Cory Booker at the time and that's why they threatened her with a felony if she didn't come out and stop the conversation with fellow Democrats.

Let's listen to this.

All of our Democratic elected officials

are actively they said it's a felony for me to do this.

Apparently I can't be on the floor or in the bathroom.

Well, you told me I was only allowed to be here in the bathroom.

No, hang on.

Bye everybody.

I've got to go.

Hey, um, that that's that is outrageous.

And first of all, let me tell you something.

Representative Collier in the bathroom has more dignity than Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

There you go.

That is outrageous.

What they're trying to do right there is silence an American leader, silence a black woman.

And that is outrageous.

And I hope everybody took note of that.

The fact that she can't even let her voice be heard is fricking outrageous.

It is.

And this is what we're fighting for here.

All right, unbelievable.

Yeah, pretty pretty unbelievable.

Here's one reaction So she's there because she's refused to sign off on a 24-7 surveillance Request outside of the legislature.

Yeah,

they have to be

surveilled, right?

They

had to approve it and sign it so they could follow them around town or wherever they go Yes, including now apparently the bathroom and she's still being surveilled in the bathroom

This is this is totalitarianism.

I couldn't even imagine that imagine you're getting Yeah Having

somebody tag

along with you all that time.

Yeah, it's it's an incident like this that will be forgotten

We won't

be bringing it up anytime the Democrats forget this stuff.

We don't

bring it up, but they You know, I wish we did remember things and moments like this and bring them up often because we could certainly use the ammunition

That's

why they're getting away with it.

I know.

I mean, it's outrageous.

But maybe, you know, maybe we'll lose a few states in the meantime, because Canadian politician Elizabeth May wants a few of our states to join Canada.

How's that, huh?

Let's listen to cut 171.

This is Elizabeth May suggesting that maybe three West Coast states should join them, including some East Coast states.

Listen.

So California, Governor Newsom and Washington State Jay Inslee and newly elected Governor of Oregon Tina Kotak, how about it?

Want to put a referendum to your citizens?

Because this is what you deal.

Have we got a deal for you?

This is what you get.

Free health care, universal free health care.

No more one year olds who suddenly fall off the Medicaid list and their parents are in the news because they're trying to do a go fund me so they can get their daughter to a doctor.

Universal, free healthcare.

And guess what?

Those gun laws that your Congress is too afraid to pass because of the national gun lobby, we already got our strict gun laws.

That's why we have the safest streets around the world.

Safer streets here, we already have good gun laws.

And women have a right to an abortion under our universal healthcare system.

But, you know, we don't have to stop there.

Donald, think about it.

You could get rid of all these states that always vote Democrat.

You know what else will take Bernie Sanders off your hands?

Proud new Canadian citizen of the great province of Vermont.

Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine.

We'd

love to see you.

Hmm.

See?

Yeah.

It's a tempting offer.

It is.

Free health care.

Yeah.

Why not?

You don't need a visa for that.

I mean, just absorb those states.

and women's health care, health care.

Oh, we do have, we have a call.

Yes.

Dick, what do you got for us?

We got about a minute and a half.

Here, what do you

got?

Something kind of fun.

Trump went on a rampage about Los Angeles, slash California,

what

a hellhole it is, everything.

Right.

Now, 15 years ago, L.A.

was a great town and the state was doing well.

Guess who was the mayor of L.A.

15 years ago?

Gavin Newsom

correct guess who was the Attorney General

Kamala Harris.

Yes.

Yeah

Yeah,

he actually was right for it.

Accidentally, right.

It's amazing.

He's taught you to Trump is talking about

how safe

DC is now.

I

mean,

we'll think that Humvees out in front of every building.

They've got troops marching left and right.

It's really safe right now.

No one wants to rob anybody.

Nobody wants to go out of their

home.

I guess that's the solution right there.

You know, just lock everything

down, put a barricade up and some soldiers.

My God.

We're watching live coverage on CNN of John Bolton's house being rifled through as they search for whatever.

Well, this is

insane.

OK.

Coming up in our 7 o'clock hour, Rocker will be in the house with a Maxing preview.

Coming back with more of John and Courtney.

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