Right Wing Comedians  (Hour 1)

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Right Wing Comedians (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Wed Aug 20, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Okay.

A little bit later on, Mike McCabe will join us.

He's a sub-stack author and blogger and

All right, all around good guy.

He's gonna be here.

Yeah,

we haven't seen him for a couple of weeks.

Yeah, he took a little time off and

You

know, I you know, he comes in and he talks about a substack article, right?

But I want to get his impression of what's going on out there I want to get his feelings about you know, the situation that we have politically I also and this is the question of when I ask him.

Yeah What about the guard rails on AI?

What do you think we should put up as guardrails for AI?

And my specific question is, should we have age verification?

Should that be the first guardrail?

Age verification?

Really?

Yeah.

Because age verification is something that Google's putting in place.

The Democrats are kind of jumping on board with this.

Europe or Britain, I'm not sure who it is out there in Great Britain.

I'm the other side.

United Kingdom?

All I'm thinking is that maybe one of those countries or the European group itself has this new law that will require age verification.

So what would be the age group like 18 and above or

21 and above?

Yes, but it's not it's not really even

where the cutoff point is.

It's being able to track down people.

Once you verify your age and you give proof of it, maybe a driver's license or some kind of identification, then you're giving them the ability to track down and follow everything you've ever visited on the internet.

That is very scary.

It's mind blowing.

It is, it's mind blowing.

I'm thinking that is not a good thing.

And again, the Democrats showing that they really don't know anything about the Internet and why we need Gen Z's in there.

Let's vote younger people into the Congress, please.

Please, please.

We don't want that.

We don't need that.

Things have been going pretty well.

the way it is, as far as age is concerned, okay?

I mean, other than that, I think there should be guardrails, but the age verification thing is really, really not a good idea.

Well,

we'll ask Mike McCabe about that.

Yeah.

See what his take is on it.

Well, yeah.

A little bit

later on, he'll be in about 735.

Okay.

It's 12

minutes.

Well, I'll try to condense what I'm seeing here.

Okay.

A little wordy

this morning.

It's all

good.

It's all good.

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For some reason, I have the mobile version of our site on my laptop.

Doesn't make any sense at all.

None of the other sites show up like this.

It's just dollars.

Yeah.

Of course, you know, the question is the one that I wrote.

this

month.

That's right.

The poll question.

And if you'd like to jump in on that, you can just go to wmdxradio.com.

And the question is, if John and Gordy did one thing for their morning show, they should, A, not change a damn thing, keep doing what they're doing.

That's at 38%.

That's 20.

38.5%.

Choice B is include more.

stories in idiocracy at the risk of their own lives and freedom.

That's 30.8%.

We

take heroic courage

to keep doing this, right?

That's right.

Yeah, who knows?

Choice C, sound depressed, angry, and lash out at even their closest friends and

collars.

Well, you do that anyway.

I did that

yesterday.

I closed the show with an angry rant.

Oh, boy.

And then we got called into the principal's office and we had trouble there.

Leave him on a happy note.

I get dragged into it.

I

had nothing to do with it.

I'm in your yelling.

Well, you didn't stop me.

But here's the thing, you know, she acts like, you know, Stephanie Miller isn't next.

They're never happy.

They're always angry.

Come on.

I'm just

leaning into that.

I see.

That's your excuse now.

Well, try not to do that.

Try to sound a little upbeat toward the end of the show.

Like you're ready to go home and end it all.

That'll sound real.

And then choice D immediately be replaced by AI controlled robots.

See, we're talking about AI.

We could be

replaced.

So the top two is not change a damn thing or risk your life and freedom by including more stories in idiocracy.

We've got a few coming up today.

By the way, have you heard this story, and this is not a new story, but it's getting more traction now over on Willy Street?

You know, I was thinking, what are the most famous streets in Madison?

You know, State Street, of course.

East and West Wash.

You can see that as the next question.

You know, I don't care about that.

Yeah, well, I don't care

about that.

And this one, dad.

But Willy Street, all these crashes, you know, city traffic controllers are grappling with a rash of...

car crashes on Willy Street.

On Willy Street, yeah.

You

know, that mother's fool, mother fool's coffee house has been hit a bunch of times.

And there are other stores along Willy Street.

It's just, you know, what happens is they open up on weekdays, the city opens the eastbound lane on Willy Street to accommodate rush hour traffic.

Is it four

to five, four to six?

Four to five

thirty.

four to five 30

and

the majority of the crashes on the street in the last five years have happened during that time period.

Yeah.

So that's a bad idea.

That's side of the road.

So yeah, it's a really, it's a nightmare because John Nolan dumps out on a Willy Street.

Exactly.

And then Willy Street turns into a single lane, but there are two lanes dumping onto it.

Yeah.

And then, and then they have the parking, the

parkings

cleared out for drive time as they're right.

Contemplating here eliminating that.

Yeah, and having those cars parked there.

I think that's the way it should go Keep the cars parked there.

Don't open it up, right?

Yeah, it's not natural opening up that line

exactly and that's you know That's when the crashes happen between four and five thirty usually

you guys gotta take me I've never been to Willy Street in my life.

Oh, really?

I've been at what have but I've never been to wait a

minute.

Well, you think you can't get that would

What?

You think we should?

You know, let's take the kid out.

I mean, do you think he's old enough to go to Raleigh Street?

He claims he's

22, but

I think

he's really like 16.

Yeah, sure.

I

always... You could pass.

Kathryn Lake

Do you

get... Do you get... They ask for your

ID all the time.

I was just

gonna say, yeah, I always do.

They always do.

All right.

Well, should we get to would you rather do one thing or another?

Do we

have time?

Let's see if we can

make out

what

you're

saying.

Okay.

Does anybody know what he's saying?

Tell us.

Crank it

up.

Alright, text in to see if you guys can understand what that meant.

Okay.

Alright.

Alright.

First question, would you rather...

Brush your teeth with mustard, or wash your hair with relish.

These are two things

you've tried

already.

Hey man, don't put this on me.

Where did you come up with this?

Mustard.

I would do the mustard, too.

Yeah, I think

I'm in on that, too.

I don't really like the smell of relish.

Yeah,

relish.

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I love the smell of

mustard.

No, that'd be bad.

Alright, that was a quick easy one,

right?

We do not relish, that question.

Oh, there we go.

Alright, would you rather have teeth that are unusually pointy or hair that's always wet?

I'll go with the wet hair, I think, I guess.

Yeah, I think that would hurt my mouth if they were pointy teeth.

I'll go with the

pointy teeth.

How

do you come up with these questions?

I do it at 9 p.m.

Every night.

Yeah, I have my set an alarm to do that.

Would you rather questions?

In a stupid days, I suppose.

I don't know how you've been drinking all night.

Wow.

All right.

There we go.

That's it.

That's would

you rather.

That's my point.

Okay.

Everything's down hill.

It's 19 minutes past the hour.

We are just getting going on this Wednesday morning and we'll be back with trending.

Oh, that's right.

What's trending?

We'll find out after this on John and Gordy in the morning, 92.7 WMDX Madison.

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All right, what's trending that's a whole point here is looking at the news and what is basically essentially trending right

Yeah, what's headlighting news?

What's what's on people's mind?

Well It appears as though on Fox News they were talking to our president the orange Love doll and And he was talking openly about a relationship of one of the Fox hosts with Sean Hannity And he wouldn't what he wouldn't let it go and he kept talking about it

Really?

Yeah.

Ainsley Earnhardt.

Okay.

I don't know who she is.

Do you know who?

No.

I've never heard of her.

There's a picture of her sitting on the couch with the other hosts and apparently she has a off screen.

Why do they say that off screen relationship with Sean Hannity?

No, they're gonna have a relationship on screen.

What is live reality?

Anyway, uh, Trump called and he just kept talking about it and yabbering about it and they were trying to change the subject on and on.

So, you know, that's the thing that's trending right now.

Well, I'm checking, uh, the Fox page right now.

And yeah, I guess that they have something happening.

Apparently they were left scrambling when Trump who also opened up.

about his fears about his future death and the afterlife.

We'll have that tomorrow.

There's a link to that story.

Well, anyway, Trump made her relationship the main focus of his call into the show.

It comes after Trump's subtle gesture revealed that he really thinks about Melania.

after the high stakes meeting.

So, yeah, we'll find out what he thinks about Melania later.

But that's what's trending as far as meaningless news is concerned.

So Trump was rambling.

Just rambling on and on, yeah.

Now, Republican Senator is saying that he thinks Obama could be charged.

in regards to the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

He thinks he can be charged even though the president has this new immunity thing, the Supreme Court bestowed upon the presidency.

So he thinks he can still go after Obama.

I think they just want to make this an issue.

and just keep it alive and well.

And this is how they do it.

And their outrage machine will keep this going for quite some time.

Really?

Yeah.

They think they can go after Obama.

Obama for investigating Russian influence in an election.

Seriously.

We seriously would not want to know that.

We don't want to check into that.

Yeah, that's pretty serious stuff right there.

You don't want that to happen.

This is kind of interesting.

The traditional 9 to 5 is now being replaced with Infinity Workday.

Infinity work day.

What does that mean?

Well,

you're always

working.

Yeah, they work at night in the morning.

We check our emails.

We check our chats.

We check in constantly to see if we've got something new.

We're searching for tomorrow.

Yeah, never always working.

We're always working.

That's not good.

I don't know.

I'm gonna look at that story.

We might even have that story tomorrow.

Heinz ketchup, by the way, has confirmed

Of course, they've been writing it on their product for a while.

But

anyway,

that is that you should refrigerate your ketchup.

Well, is that breaking news?

Kathryn Lake

That's breaking

news.

Who doesn't?

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Well,

everybody's debated that.

In fact, I took the ketchup out of my refrigerator.

I now have it in the pantry or, you know, in the cabinet someplace.

Kathryn Lake

I

don't refrigerate it anymore because it's got a lot of vinegar in it, and that's a preservative to a degree.

You don't need to do it, but Heinz is recommending do it.

Heinz says, oh, you've got to capture the flavor and refrigerate it, and it's just a bunch of bull.

They're just playing us.

Okay, and the biggest news, and this is, I'm going to look into this, apparently, Howard Lutnik.

Lutnik.

Lutnik.

Howard Lutnik.

is proposing that the government buy a little piece of intel.

They want a piece of intel because their excuse is that they have been giving grants to intel.

And Lenick is out there saying, hey, why are we giving them money?

Why don't we get something for it?

This is a transactional.

It's always transactional.

This is

pathetic.

Come on.

You do it for the good of mankind, you jerk.

Anyway.

They want

a piece of the action.

Come on.

No, they want a piece

of the action.

Yes.

And I got a little bit of news for them.

That's a very socialist thing to do.

Maybe they don't know that.

The government owning the businesses.

I'm sorry, I think we're leaning into socialism here.

CJ and my mega friend from Milwaukee, you think about it.

Interesting.

Yeah,

yeah.

Government

owners.

So that's Lutnik's idea.

Let's try

that.

That's cool.

Okay.

29.

Lutnik!

Lutnik!

They're in here.

29 passed, and we've got the Midwest Food and Farm Report

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The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

What?

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Holy

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The big disappointment is that millions and millions of people who have filtered through the Smithsonian over the many years have been misled.

Absolutely misled.

Just nothing but woke.

And this is what has been, you know,

Well, the trouble with the US is that they have been influenced and exposed to this propaganda at the Smithsonian, and it has changed a lot of people's minds.

They have become Democrats, liberals, progressives, going through the museums as they exit.

We have changed their vote.

I remember

going to the Smithsonian a couple of times, once or twice when I was a kid, and then once as an adult with

our kids.

Look what happened

to you.

Well, okay, I guess, but I didn't notice any kind of political bias or anything

on

any of that.

That

made me more curious.

They have several, it's not just one museum, it's several.

A

lot of museums, yeah.

So I don't know what the...

I

don't know what the problem is here.

The big headline on CNN this morning was, uh, uh, Trump says that the Smithsonian is out of control.

That's news to them.

I'm sure they're, oh my God.

This is every day, every day.

You know, it's, it, this is more like the onion than it is.

Yeah, it is.

It's unbelievable.

Really, it's just

from another world.

Yes.

It's too crazy to even imagine.

And yet here we are.

We're talking about this every damn day.

All right.

Let's move into the territory of our wonderful and beloved postal service.

Oh, boy.

In June, the Senate parliamentarian unblocked

a Republican proposal in a major tax and spending bill to sell off the agency's new electric vehicles and infrastructure and revoke remaining federal money.

It sounded really stupid to do that.

We just bought new EVs for the post office, unique vehicles that have the driver on the right side.

But we're gonna sell them off.

I don't know who's gonna buy them All that money wasted and spent they would rather have wasted the money just to make a point make a mega point and then of course, you know Take all the money federal money back that is going to these companies that are manufacturing these cars for

the post office and a lot of jobs lost there

do that that's

crazy just to make a point it's again it's a mega thing you know they got to own us right well the parliamentarian did stop them but not long enough because now the republican magas are saying that the postal service should still

Stick to just delivering mail and not driving EVs as a statement a political statement driving those EVs.

That's a political statement.

Hmm.

Yeah.

So anyway, uh, Joni Ernst, Senator Joni Ernst said this.

It didn't make sense for the Postal Service to invest so heavily in an all electric force.

What?

What is she?

What is what?

The whole thing here is these postal trucks the ones that are out there right now were built in 1987 what so if we get the EVs now yeah maybe in 40 or 50 years they'll still be out on the road right why would it be crazy to invest so heavily into all electric vehicles at this point they're gonna be on the roads for a long long time folks my god

So anyway, she thinks it's just mail delivery.

It isn't making a political statement buying an EV and making sure that the, I guess, climate remains environmentally safe for most of us to breathe.

Oshkosh Defense was given the award.

The Grumman Long Life Vehicles, I mentioned, built in 1987, have a fuel efficiency of nine miles per gallon.

Not good.

What?

New trucks are equipped with airbags, blind spot monitoring, collision sensors, 360 degree cameras, and anti-like brakes.

Wow, there's something new.

Nice.

And air conditioning.

Wow.

Wow.

OK.

Oh, I know.

But the thing is with EVs, and there's a lot of braking going on, you know, delivering mail.

Sure.

That adds to regeneration.

It regenerates the battery.

It recharges it every time they

stop.

It's perfect for mail delivery.

It's perfect.

Yeah.

And yeah, Johnny Erch can't wrap her head around that.

And the mega Republicans can't wrap their head around it.

And this is...

You know, I'm just going to take a break here.

I'm just

going to curl up in the corner, the fetal position, and just, you know, wipe my brain clean for a moment while we listen to Mark.

Let's go to Mark on the phones.

Good morning, Mark.

How you doing?

Yeah, good morning.

Yeah, you just kind of lit a fire under me with this latest.

You just talked about this.

But I've talked to my postman, you know, frequently that, um, that, uh, you know, chatting with the man that, uh,

And saying, you see these vehicles stop and go, they stop and go, and they stop and go in town.

And it makes so much sense to have electric vehicles for that.

For the love of God, the first vehicle, some of the first cars we had were electric cars back at the turn of the...

of the twentieth century back in the early nineteen hundred said because the only problem was is that the battery technology wasn't good enough electric vehicles electric vehicles to some extent are much simpler than then internal combustion engines that there's no there's no uh... it converts you know the electric motor turns and it doesn't have to go through a uh... transmission like the uh... question is some kind of transmission

But it's not.

You don't have to create six or eight explosions every time.

Right.

I mean, you know, it was it was clean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And these vehicles are getting aged.

They're they're getting very old now because they're an older vehicle.

And now we've already got these electric vehicles on hand just because Donald Trump.

Donald Trump was all excited when he drove the damn Tesla.

Yeah, it is just idiotic and these people, you know, everything that woke statement out.

He doesn't they don't And it's pure Stalinism now for the whole attack in the museums.

I can remember seeing there's a program on PBS about It was what I think about dog on dogs and talking about the evolution of dogs and a guy in a guy in in the Soviet Union couldn't son study science

the way he wanted to, because the science wasn't in line with Soviet socialist

thought.

So no science has to be in mega, whatever it's thought now, mega-fascist

thought.

It

can't be around.

The museum has to match up with mega-fascist thought.

I mean, what we're going to expunge from the historical record, the fact that the Confederacy was based on supportive slavery.

Read Alexander's

Stevens you know cornerstone speech, which says the natural place for for the for for the for the black man is as a slave That was the moral truth for the for that

time sure

Yeah,

I'm surprised the Supreme Court doesn't go back to that.

I mean it didn't say president

That was the Tammy decision that was dread Scott.

It didn't just say that that Scott didn't have any rights It said that no black person should have any rights in this country because they're not equal to a human being

I mean, it is just beyond me that we're, that we have to have this debate once again, and these people should be ashamed of themselves.

They're all terrified of Donald Trump.

At some point in time, the man is gonna flop over dead, like the rest of us flop over dead, and that Donald Trump will be gone, and they'll have to live with the fact that they've been supporting this jackass.

All right, Martin, yeah.

Well, all good points.

Yeah.

I want to bring up something or something I heard on the way in.

Thank you for your call.

And that is that the pediatric society, you know, doctors, physicians for pediatrics, they came out with a statement saying that children, babies to, I think, four years old should be getting a COVID shot because their systems haven't gotten the kind of ability to fight off diseases yet.

Right.

They're not as immune as people have said they are.

And they

Kathryn Lake

have

come out with a statement now.

They are trying to make a opposing statement to the government statement.

See, now we can't even trust the government websites anymore with giving us the right kind of information that we need to make decisions and for insurance companies to make those decisions.

Because if we're not requiring these shots for babies, infants, then the parents will have to pay for those COVID.

and it's more money out of our pocket.

So it affects us, our pocketbook, and it affects our lives as well.

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Okay.

Ever wonder why mega comedy is almost non-existent?

Yeah,

you got, yeah, who do you have in that world?

No

one anymore.

You got that

Gutfeld guy, Gutfield, whatever his name is, late night, Fox guy.

Yeah, it's not funny.

No, it's

not

funny at

all.

It's really awful.

Well, and Dennis Miller tried it for a while.

It did not work.

It didn't happen.

Remember they had the half hour, one hour, one hour, half hour comedy show?

Right.

Trying to be funny in the title.

Yeah,

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it

was just a miserable failure now before CBS pulled the plug on let the late show with Stephen Colbert season four of HBO's hacks had already dealt with a similar situation in which that same thing had happened along with the vein the vein row Well, okay, I'll tell you

We'll get into the story.

We'll get into it.

I mean, everybody's waving their arms around.

I

can't focus.

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incoming airplane.

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WMDX, Johnny Gordy

in

the

morning.

It's cloudy downtown right now, around Madison, 69 degrees, 75 for a high today, a mix of clouds and sunshine, but no rain.

Looks like we're done with the rain for

a

while.

Should be pretty nice.

Hew up, cut 97, all right?

Instead of me explaining about comedy and how it isn't really something.

that you can find on the right wing.

I mean, they're just not very funny over there.

And I guess I would imagine that watching the five, whatever they call it, that's funny to some people.

It's pretty sad.

Now, what are comedians doing, though, to affect society?

To affect what's going on in society?

It happens that Mark Merritt mm-hmm

Now, here's the podcast.

Does he still have that

he's ending there, doesn't he?

He's ending it soon.

I don't know if he's ended it yet, but yeah, he's put on the air.

Great comedian, great show.

Yeah, the podcast is wonderful.

What was the name of the TV show that he had?

I think it was just called Marin.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was really

good.

That was a

great show.

But anyway, he came out swinging it against other comedians who've been making fun of trans individuals.

Oh, really?

Right.

Basically, let's listen to what he says here.

You know, to be in a fucking club where, you know, I walking down the hall at the comedy club, and, you know, in one room, someone's doing their bit about trans people, and then I get down the hall and there's someone on stage going, well, I guess I got to do my bit about trans people.

Like, no, you don't.

You don't.

It's hack now.

I mean, you know, you guys got the freedom you wanted.

You can now say whatever you want.

They're defeated.

The rights have been denied.

The policies that you guys encouraged, which are your stupid material, are now policy.

And now, like, you know, half the people under the umbrella of anti-woke, we've lost a tremendous amount of democratic leaning ideas and movements.

So whether they knew it or not, that's what they were spearheading.

So now it's reality.

And you want to still keep kicking them?

I don't know that comedians have had that much power.

Are

you out of your mind?

No,

I'm

you know, you can't you can't separate like if the movement is like, you know, we're being censored.

No, you're not you're not there's no constitutional

censorship issue with your free speech.

You say things and in a Democratic show of an environment, you know, like Twitter or whatever, there's cultural pushback, but that's a specific issue.

To frame it as some sort of free speech problem was a misdirect.

It wasn't.

It wasn't a free speech problem.

It was that people were getting cultural pushback.

That is not a constitutional issue.

No one was being put in jail for saying anything.

That's a free speech issue.

But my problem is is you're going to start talking about anti-woke and that's going to be your point of view.

That's going to be your ideological, you know, grounding for what you do.

OK, that's fine.

But why does it have to be the same four fucking things?

You know, it's like they talk about the same shit and I don't know a better definition of hack.

I mean, after a certain point, it's like, you know, what, so what juice is the word hard really had?

How much do you have to give trans people?

You know, what is your big problem with gay people?

What's your big problem with women?

It's like, what is this, the f***ing 80s again?

Here you go.

Wow.

Yeah, that's good.

Kind of rehashing a lot of old stuff, right?

I mean, that's what they're doing.

They're just beating you this thing to death.

It's not funny

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to a

lot of people.

And then they act like, well, gee, you're pushing back on me.

You're trying to censor me.

No, that's the feedback you're getting.

You're accountable for what you're saying.

And they've always been that way.

And that's why they're afraid to speak up in college classes now because, well, somebody might actually have an opposing view to their point of view.

Yeah.

Comedians have always been

on the front lines.

You

know, Lenny Bruce

and George Carlin and some of the early guy, Richard Pryor.

They've always been on the front lines of, you know, oh boy, that's controversial.

That's, you know, edgy.

We don't know if that should be allowed.

Should we censor him?

Should we not let him?

I mean, that's the way it's always been.

And if comedy makes you feel a little bit uncomfortable, it's actually a good thing.

It gives you stuff to think about and to, you know, make up your own mind about how you feel about issues.

That's my take

on it.

Well, yeah, I mean, you know, a rich little did impressions.

David Fry did some impressions way, way back in the old days.

And we played cut here on the show from the Smothers Brothers who laid into Lyndon Baines Johnson an awful lot

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about

the Vietnam War.

Incredible criticism.

But

you know, even Johnson wrote into the show saying that this is this is the humor of our time.

Right.

And we should appreciate that the freedom to have that kind of access.

You speak,

yes.

That's

what it's all about.

And I think Marin is certainly making a great point that it's not funny stuff anymore.

You can go on and on and maintain this separation between left and right, but it's not funny and it's not making society any better or more comfortable.

We're all kind of at war with each other simply because of comedians going on.

The point was that, well comedians don't have that kind of influence.

They

do,

they always had that kind of influence.

That's it.

We're quoting and playing cuts from a few of the comedians of the past.

Yes.

I mean, we had the Smothers Brothers cut right here.

Let's play

it.

We have time?

Yeah.

There you go.

Beautiful.

That's it.

Well done.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was an impersonator.

Yeah, that was an impersonator.

Reading that Lyndon Baines Johnson.

letter to the Smothers Brothers.

I know we used to call them just LBJ, but people don't remember that.

Right?

Yeah.

For

10 years, we're explaining that.

659 in our next hour, Mike McCabe will join us.

Substack author.

We're coming back with more of John and Gordy from Madison WMDX.

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