The High Stakes of Inflation and Voting Rights

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The High Stakes of Inflation and Voting Rights

John & Gordy · Fri Aug 15, 2025

Gordy

From the depths of a digital abyss, where truth drowns in a sea of clickbait and algorithms, a beacon ignites.

From the heart of Badgerland, from our studios on State Street in downtown Madison, Wisconsin, it's John and Gordy on 92.7 WMDX.

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You can also listen to us on the internet's the tubes.

Yeah, just check us out on the civic media app tune in and turn on and then text us or voice

John

Notas.

Yes, or you can call us 608-879-8255.

We still have phones.

We do work.

Yeah

We have partly to mostly cloudy skies this morning.

It looks like a nice day ahead of us, but it's going to be warm and humid again.

Yeah, we're back to that mid 80s this afternoon.

Yeah, so that's, you know, just get rid of and then some showers and thunderstorms on the way for the weekend.

Oh, why not?

Yeah.

Okay, and it's Friday.

That's a good thing.

Gordy

Yeah, the Friday is really a great thing.

We're

John

gonna be

Gordy

should we tell everybody what's going on?

I don't know.

You want it?

Should we share

John

or not?

Let's keep it a secret.

Oh,

Gordy

I don't know.

I don't know.

You know, it's all bottled up inside of me.

I really have to kind of get it out there.

Okay.

We're working really hard on Monday and Tuesday.

We have a number of different shows to

To do we're move to the morning show again

John

as

Gordy

usual.

Yeah.

John

Yes, and then we're

Gordy

filling it for Peach Waba

John

What Monday

Gordy

night?

Yeah

John

Monday and Tuesday night right Monday and Tuesday

Tom

night.

Yes Nice nice

John

Tom good

Tom

morning to you.

Good morning.

Good morning.

And Pete Pete reached out to you, right?

No,

John

I'm glad he

Gordy

reached out to you.

I mean, you know, what else what else should we know?

Nothing.

I don't know

John

You seem very hesitant to tell us

Is there something we should know about it?

Tom

No, no, no big deal.

Gordy

No big deal.

You're setting us up for something.

Tom

No, there's a guest that I know that's going to be on the show, but I don't know if I want to share that right now.

Am I allowed to share that right now?

Sure.

Yeah.

What we were talking about before the show?

John

Yeah.

Tom

Yeah.

Well, I think so if it's confirmed.

It's confirmed.

I'd say Todd Alba is coming on the show on Monday.

Yeah.

John

Yeah, great.

As a guest.

All right.

You know, we've never talked to Todd on the air.

before, so that'll be fun.

Talk to him off the air occasionally, see him around the hallways.

That's right.

Gordy

Now, the trick here is not to talk politics.

John

Well, yeah, we're not going to do any politics on Schwab's show.

It's an entertainment show.

It's fun.

Gordy

Yeah, it must be

John

fun.

Gordy

Different

John

things to talk about, movies, books.

Got all kinds of guests lined up.

They just haven't confirmed yet.

We got some really interesting guests lined up.

Yes, we do, but we can't really say because we don't really know if they can make it or not.

But we'll find out later today.

Can we just live off that?

Can we go on the air for two

Gordy

hours

John

just

Gordy

saying, you know, we had some really good guests.

They just didn't call

John

us

Gordy

back.

But Catherine's asking us, is this

John

pirate rate?

Yeah, we're taking over.

Yeah, that's it.

Right.

We're just going to take over.

I guess Pete's taking a vacation or something.

He's off, I think, most of next week.

He deserves one.

He deserves one.

Gordy

But

John

you

Gordy

know, we've always wanted to do entertainment on the show.

We just never had a chance to.

And then when Trump became president,

John

sucked

Gordy

all the air out of the newsroom,

John

just all of a sudden this is it.

This is what we're stuck with.

But it'll be a little weird doing the morning show and then coming back to do the evening show.

It's gonna be a little stressful.

And we'll be going home at 8.30 at night, ready to go to bed.

Not being able to sleep and then getting up early the next morning.

It's gonna be hell.

Gordy

Whose idea was this?

I don't know.

He should clear this next time with us.

Let's give us

John

a half a

Gordy

year notice.

John

Yeah, it's going to be busy next week.

Then we have the night market next Thursday, too.

So there's another one we'll be up late for.

We're not going to get any sleep at all next week.

That's

Gordy

all right.

John

We can take

Gordy

it.

But we don't sleep that often anyway.

Gen Zers, they don't sleep.

Tom

How much sleep

Gordy

do you get, Tom?

Tom

I was just gonna say, yeah, last time I went to bed at like 11.

So yeah, I don't get much sleep.

Like four or five hours?

Five

Gordy

hours, maybe?

Yeah.

Tom

That's not

Gordy

enough.

Think about everybody driving in to work today.

John

Yeah.

They don't get enough sleep either.

Tom

Yeah, why is that?

Okay.

And the lights were bad when I came in to work again.

They were

John

good.

Stop

Tom

lights?

Yeah, they were good like a

Gordy

couple days ago.

They've been good this

Tom

whole week.

Gordy

Yeah, they have

Tom

been.

But

Gordy

today,

Tom

they were the worst.

At least from my experience, I had to stop and go every single light.

What street are you going to?

What's your main... Mineral.

Mineral

Gordy

point.

Tom

Mineral point.

Gordy

Wow.

They took me forever.

Well, you know, you gotta wonder, you know, if the city is doing this, you know...

area by area.

They nail a university avenue area, then they move on to, you know, a mineral point.

And who knows, maybe Park Street next and East Wash and, you know, Willy Street at Wood Avenue.

Just

John

messing with those stoplights.

Willy Milley.

Yeah.

All those main highways.

Yeah.

They get, they have to time out the stoplight.

They have to test things out from time to time and then.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Just a few minutes.

We're going to talk to Payam Yaki, catch up with the fabulous Farm Babe a little bit later on.

We'll check in with Savannah Tomei Olson, some of the news items from this week.

And Rocker will be here with a Max Inc preview.

It's also free Ticket Friday.

We'll have a four pack of tickets to give away to an upcoming Brewer's game.

And we'll give away more VIP passes to our Doundrens Distilling, our listener appreciation party.

So that's coming up as well.

Yeah.

Many, many things coming up.

You're shuffling through your papers.

I am.

Gordy

You know, I'm looking for this one particular story for Pam Yonkey.

I'm hoping I can find the Jeff Bezos lab grown salmon.

John

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

He's fooling around with mother nature and making his own fish.

That's right.

Why

Gordy

not?

I found it.

Yeah.

John

Oh, okay.

Good.

Yeah, I think we're gonna catch up with Payamyaki, discussing a little bit more on her Canadian farm tour.

And, yeah, some of these items, like Bill Gates' butter, again, you know.

Yeah.

Bezos is working on fish.

Gates is working on butter.

Gordy

She was gonna look that up and find out more about it after we brought it up the last time.

And, you know, I piqued her interest.

and the Bill Gates Butter.

We never actually played the Bill Gates Butter story for her.

It's a little long.

I mean, we could just play the first part of it and give her a taste,

John

so to speak, of the Butter story.

And also, Wisconsin cranberries were number one in the nation for cranberries once again.

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

We'll find out more about that.

Is that what they say in France?

Fantastic.

Do you have any big plans for the upcoming weekend?

Anybody?

Anybody?

Don, what are you doing?

I don't.

How's your ankle?

How's your

Tom

leg?

It's getting better.

John

I don't like going to the doctors, because I

Tom

don't like calling to go to the doctors.

I just like taking a Tylenol, and that's it.

But it's been pretty good.

John

It has been too bad.

I don't think I'm

Tom

going to soccer again.

I think I'm done.

John

First and last

Tom

time.

Yep, calling it quits.

One

John

time and you're done.

And Trump is getting ready to fly off to Alaska meet with the Vladimir.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's happening.

So we'll keep track of that

Gordy

What else

John

I'm just looking

Gordy

at Pam is looking forward to the Bill Gates butter story So that's great.

All right.

John

Well, we're gonna get to that.

Okay

Well, should we do what's going on?

What's happening?

What's worse?

What's better than worse?

What would you do?

Where are we going?

Gordy

You're just not seeing it with enough reverb.

Okay.

Would you rat?

There

Tom

we

Gordy

go.

Tom

See, that one's more I can hear that one.

All right.

Do you alter that?

I did alter a little bit.

First

Gordy

question.

Tom

Would you rather have to do a handstand after every meal?

Or only listen to the baby by Justin Bieber for the rest of your life?

Baby,

Gordy

baby.

I guess a handstand, you know, as long as I can physically do it.

But I've never been able to do it.

Tom

Miracles upon

John

miracles.

Yeah, I'd rather do the handstand than listen to anything.

Bye.

Beaver

Tom

I really like that I

John

really

Tom

like that song and I'm willing to listen to it for the rest of my life Okay, cuz I don't really want to do a hand I don't like doing handstands.

John

Do you have a sample of that song?

Tom

I'm not sure I

John

can

Tom

find it.

I can find it for

John

her.

Tom

All right I don't even know if anyone else wants to hear that Okay,

John

all right.

Yeah, would I

Tom

recognize that song?

Yeah, I think

John

you were good.

Tom

Yeah.

Well, that's good.

John

All right.

Second

Tom

question.

Would you rather be unable to use search engines?

So like Google or whatever ever again or always be one hour late to things?

Gordy

Well, it's an easy one.

I can always be few hours late.

John

So that's

Gordy

that's where I'm at.

I'm already

Tom

doing

John

that.

Really?

What's the first choice again?

I'm

Tom

unable to use search engines

John

like Google.

Yeah, I think I

Tom

knew John's answer before you

John

even

Tom

said it.

Yeah.

I

John

like using search engines a lot, so yeah.

Yeah.

Tom

You'd be one hour late to things every single time.

John

Yeah, I don't like being late either.

I'm usually early.

You are.

You are.

Tom

Yeah.

John

I

Tom

don't know.

I'm on the fence on this one.

I would say I would say be one hour late.

One hour

Gordy

late.

How could you

Tom

be on the fence on this one?

It's

Gordy

an easy one.

I'm using Google right now.

Always, you know, be fashionably late.

That's what it's all about, isn't it?

Yeah, I guess so.

Tom

Yeah.

Yeah, all

Gordy

right.

You like being there at

Tom

times?

All right, you talk me in.

OK, there you go.

Gordy

Good job.

Talk me in the way.

Tom

OK, good.

Imagine not using Google ever again.

That'd be terrible.

John

Well, we can't do that.

We lived for decades without it before, somehow.

Gordy

That's true.

Yeah, we used to have the recording of the tubes.

Right?

The tubes.

Yeah.

Remember the what?

Yeah, and you know, well the internet, you know, it's a bunch of it's a bunch of tubes, right?

Yeah, it's not like a big That's it.

Okay.

John

There

Gordy

you go.

Okay.

I love that.

John

Good enough.

It's not a dump truck,

Gordy

you know, it's not a dump truck, you know, just pour stuff into this dump truck and it all gets hauled away.

It's a series of tubes.

John

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Gordy

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Gordy

You know, we were talking about Bill Gates' butter and everything like that, but Bill Gates, he's making some news out there.

He's saying it's the end of the smartphone era.

That's right.

He's replacing it with something else.

Some sort of chip that goes in your brain.

Wow.

That's

John

what I'm guessing.

I don't know.

What could it be?

Or new eyeglasses.

A tattoo with

Gordy

integrated circuitry.

John

Oh, no.

Wow.

Yeah, all right.

Well, that's something to think about.

When we come back, we'll talk to the fabulous farm babe, Pam Yonkey, just getting going on a Friday morning.

John and Gordy, WMDX Madison.

John (host)

LSD, Lakeshore Drive.

WMDX 92.7 on a beautiful Friday morning.

Last day of the work week.

I know we're all just chomping at the bit to get out there in the lawn and start doing some yard work before it gets too hot today,

Gordy (host)

right?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's going to get into the mid 80s this afternoon, right now, 67 degrees with partly to mostly cloudy skies.

And it's time for us to check in with Pam Yankee.

Good morning, Pam.

How are you?

Pam Yankee (guest)

Good morning, guys.

I agree with you.

It's beautiful right now.

I'm waiting to see what it's going to be like.

The Badger scheme and gas engine club show starts today up in Baraboo.

John (host)

Oh, yeah.

I

Pam Yankee (guest)

noticed that there are temperatures.

Temperatures are projecting are going to be closer to 90 by the time the crowd starts showing up Saturday or Sunday.

So, you know, that that much more resembles the August that I know in Wisconsin.

John (host)

Absolutely.

And those are that's a fun event.

The kids just love going to that thing, taking the tractor rides.

And it's very cool.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Pam Yankee (guest)

there's the weird machinery

John (host)

there.

Pam Yankee (guest)

Yeah.

Well, that's what I was just going to say.

There's a lot of education goes on for young and old up there because they've got, this year, one of the organizers told us that they've got a well-drilling machine that's back.

They had the one fellow that had recently kind of demonstrated quit coming.

John (host)

So

Pam Yankee (guest)

that's back.

They'll be making shingles out of wood.

Just a lot of different things.

Blacksmithing, if you've never seen that in action, they've got demonstrations there.

So it's not just about the tractors or the engines that you see.

It's also about the real work that they try to demonstrate for folks in the different buildings.

So if you get a chance, like I said, it's only 10 bucks for adults, 12 and under are free.

That's not a bad way to spend an afternoon, you know?

Gordy (host)

No.

Yeah, so much to see up there.

And it's easy to get to.

You just take Highway 12 up there.

Look for Sand Road.

It's part of my

John (host)

past, you know, taking the kids up there.

They love getting on the tractors and taking the rides with some of the people that, you know, invited them up on the seat.

And it's great stuff.

I wonder if they'd get into it now at 26 and 23.

I think they might be a little, but,

Pam Yankee (guest)

you know, never know.

John (host)

Yeah, never know.

Pam Yankee (guest)

I see a lot of people, a lot of people that grew up in it and maybe ours, you know, I have a professional career, but they'll

They'll keep a tractor on the side for parades or something like that.

So you just never know.

John (host)

Well, you mentioned a few things about your Canadian farm tour that you took, and we were talking about wine, dairy, the bison.

But what else

Pam Yankee (guest)

was

John (host)

there that you guys experienced on that Canadian tour?

Pam Yankee (guest)

Well, part of the reason why we're going to see the weather that we are this weekend, including possible measurable rains is the weather pattern in Canada

John (host)

that's

Pam Yankee (guest)

going to influence us this weekend.

John (host)

My

Pam Yankee (guest)

weather guy was telling me that this morning.

And, you know, when we were on our Canadian farm tour, we made our way from Calgary all the way across Canadian Rockies to Vancouver and Vancouver Island.

And you can definitely tell there's dry areas, which, you know, they talk about the wildfires.

They don't talk about the impact on the people.

One guy that I visited with was Bob Wilson, who

who owns Morningstar Bison Farm.

He's on Vancouver Island.

Now, anything you're going to do in agriculture on an island is going to be difficult.

If you need fertilizer, you've got to bring it over.

If you're going to market your products, you've got to take it over.

And when I was talking with Bob, he actually, right while I was doing my interview, a helicopter with a water bucket flew over.

There was a wildfire that was only like three miles away from him.

He'd already started to feed his bison.

supplemental alfalfa cubes to try to get him ready for the winter.

And he was trying to market his bison and bring the herd size down because of the lack of feed.

So he was getting about $10 US a pound for ground bison, about 11 and a half a pound for roast and about $13 a pound for steak.

He was sending those animals across on ferry to be

slaughtered and processed in Alberta.

Then they sent the meat to Montreal.

The bison meat circulated around Montreal and even made its way in to the eastern United States.

So, you know, there's demand out there.

But boy, like I said, anything you're going to do on an island is going to be difficult.

And I wish that when they did some of these wildfire stories.

They take a little closer look at the impact that this was going to have, not just this year, but for the foreseeable future on a lot of the farmers that are trying to eco to living in that area.

John (host)

OK, we're talking about bison, but what about beef?

You know, I understand there's a beef shortage in this country and we

Pam Yankee (guest)

used

John (host)

to import just kind of fill in the blanks where we're short.

And one of those countries happens to be Brazil, which now has this huge, huge tariff on it, 50 percent, I believe.

So that's limiting the amount of.

beef we get from at least Brazil, which is contributing to the high prices we're seeing in the market.

Pam Yankee (guest)

Yeah, and we're 64 year lows as far as the number of cattle we've got here in the United States for beef, the native beef cattle.

And now when you see the drought, you look at Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, they are

in extreme drought.

Well, if you don't have the pasture, if you don't have the ground to feed those animals, then you're just going to market them immediately.

You're not going to build your herd.

So same story as what Bob Wilson told me up in Canada, same thing that's plaguing our beef industry.

If you don't have the water to make the pastures lush for cattle,

John (host)

then

Pam Yankee (guest)

you just flat out can't have the cattle.

And that situation in Brazil, most of the cattle we bring in from Brazil are used in our ground beef industry.

That's we call that the lean.

John (host)

We

Pam Yankee (guest)

need we raised that's top quality kettle in the US.

We need the Brazilian fat beef

the fat side to come in to grind up our beef.

But, but yeah, you're right.

It's not going to change anytime soon.

I'm afraid either.

John (host)

All right.

I think we're running out of time for

Gordy (host)

the Bill Gates

John (host)

Butter.

Did

Pam Yankee (guest)

you do any research?

We can do it.

We can do it.

I've done my research.

We can do it Monday.

Gordy (host)

Okay.

We'll wait till Monday and we can talk about also Wisconsin Cranberries having another great year.

And

John (host)

I believe we could still probably talk about the weather network going in.

Pam Yankee (guest)

Yeah.

You want to do that next week?

John (host)

Yes.

Gordy (host)

All right, we've got a lot

Pam Yankee (guest)

of stuff.

We'll keep it on the to-do list, boys.

Have a great weekend.

Pam, you have a great

Gordy (host)

weekend.

Thank you.

All right.

It's Pam Yankee, the fabulous farm babe.

Great stuff.

Midwest Farm and Food Report coming up next.

And we'll be back with Idiocracy for a Friday.

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John (host)

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Gordy Young

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John Peterson

All right, now let's talk about high prices.

Gordy Young

High

John Peterson

price.

Oh, well, you've seen them at the supermarket.

We've got a lot of high prices out there.

We're talking about the beef prices going right through the roof.

I thought they were expensive before.

Yeah.

Before all of this.

Now they're really expensive and that ground beef, as you mentioned, you know, that's where they get the fatter ground beef from Brazil.

Yeah.

And that stuff is not coming in to help with their beef shortage here in this country.

So, you know,

How can we how can we enjoy those burgers on the grill?

I don't know summer not what they're so expensive Well, I blame Trump for this obviously we should blame Trump for it because you know the terrorists on Brazil are ridiculous and he's doing it because he It's political.

Let me just say that it's not

Gordy Young

You don't need to

John Peterson

say he's standing up for the former dictator

Okay, and wants them in power back in power for some reason.

I don't know I yeah like they'll do that anyway Let's get to South Carolina Republican who came out there and said hey, you know what?

Excuse me

Gordy Young

the cough first.

John Peterson

You know what?

I think high prices are good.

Yeah, this is representative Ralph Norman And and this is just an amazing thing you've got to hear this and then I'll give you my mega friend in Milwaukee

his reaction to this.

Okay, let's listen to Ralph Norman representative, Ralph Norman from South Carolina.

Interviewer

Time, Congressman.

Americans largely disapprove of the economic policies of this president, at least right now, 55% say they disapprove of his job on the economy, 44% approve.

Can you explain those numbers?

Congressman Ralph Norman

Well, I think a lot of people are seeing higher prices.

I mean our family is in the construction business and we get a lot of our timber from Canada and other countries.

Yes, it's higher.

Steel prices are up, but it's for the good of the country.

And should we expect higher prices for a short time?

Yes, but overall we couldn't keep going the way we were going.

The cancer in this country was letting other countries rule the day and tax our products.

And why should we run a deficit every month?

And that's why this president is

is doing such a good job and you can't go on, you know, whole numbers vary.

They

Interviewer

come up, they go down.

The

Congressman Ralph Norman

bottom line is he's doing the right thing and it couldn't come at a better time and things will get better here.

Congressman Ralph

John Peterson

Norman, Republican of South Carolina.

All the things I wish the Democrat had said, you know, when there was inflation.

Pulls and opinions

Unidentified Speaker

go up

John Peterson

and down.

People approve.

They disapprove of the economy.

Don't worry about it.

It's going to get better.

Why didn't we use any of those excuses?

Or the fact that it's for the good of the country, right?

Not that.

Sure.

That doesn't settle well with me at all.

It's for the good of the country.

It's for the good of the country.

You know, just pay a little bit more and then those prices will come down.

No, we don't know that.

You know, and in fact, I'm thinking not.

You know, we had the supply chain, which really boosted.

the inflation levels, right?

And then the greed inflation took effect.

And that was where manufacturers said, you know what, we can piggyback

Unidentified Speaker

on

John Peterson

the shortages.

So let's increase our prices, make our products smaller, give people less of what we're manufacturing and selling in the stores.

And we'll make a lot of money that way.

And that's what happened with inflation.

That's how that happened.

But here,

Well, this is, uh, this is a self-created inflation.

And, uh, I think, you know, it's not really that good for the country.

It's not good.

It doesn't seem like.

You know, we should, you know, let's get used to high, why not just say, let's get used to high prices.

Oh, sure.

Because it's good for the country.

Why don't we just say that?

Gordy Young

It's good for the big wealthy, you know, the wealthiest 1%, 2%,

John Peterson

you

Gordy Young

know, they're getting the big tax break.

John Peterson

All right.

I'm not for them.

I'm going to throw a curveball in here.

I was going to get to Tesla, but you know, what are you going to do?

I feel a little warm and fuzzy this morning.

First, don't try to touch me.

Never.

All

Unidentified Speaker

right.

Here it

John Peterson

is.

This is, you know, this is just something that I.

I have to pass along to you if you didn't check it out already.

It's a father.

He decided to review his four-month-old baby.

What?

What do you mean he reviewed him?

He's going to review his baby.

And this is the audio.

It's cut 82.

Let's check out this review.

Father (Baby Review)

What's up, everyone?

Here is my four-month product review of this baby.

So delivery takes a while.

nine plus months, but the product so far has absolutely exceeded expectations.

Super lightweight, surprisingly durable, and that new baby smell is just chef's kiss.

Now the learning curve, steep, not gonna lie to you guys, but once you figure out the whole kind of crying equals need something algorithm, it's pretty intuitive.

Now the smile feature is absolutely game changing.

Instant dopamine hit every single time.

Battery life is only about

90 minutes and sleep mode still has some bugs, but support says that will be patched in the next update.

Now performance, okay?

This thing is a machine.

Processes, milk at just incredible speeds converts directly to energy and growth.

The learning AI is honestly impressive.

You know, babies, they're a lot like having your own personal LLM.

if if LLMs also peed on you.

Now the features, the cute factor is off the charts, definitely enterprise grade, adorability, advanced grip functionality, surprisingly good audio.

You know, frankly, the volume could be a little bit lower and pro tip, the cuddle feature is absolutely worth the premium pricing.

Overall, I would definitely recommend this product for families looking to scale, gather resource intensive and they require significant investment.

It's kind of like a

expensive SAS subscription with no cancellation policy.

But the ROI is already showing massive gains in happiness metrics.

So that's my review.

Stay tuned for future product updates.

Time to go change a diaper.

All right, I'm

John Peterson

out.

That's right, baby.

3.0 is coming again.

Wow.

Father (Baby Review)

Pretty cool, huh?

Quite the review.

John Peterson

What a great idea.

Big thumbs up on the baby.

Well, thank

Gordy Young

you.

John Peterson

But

Gordy Young

that was warm and fuzzy.

John Peterson

It was.

And cute as hell.

Oh, and I gotta tell you, the baby was adorable.

It's just adorable.

Just sitting there, you know, not really understanding anything that's going on.

I had sunglasses on, you know, just to, you know, keep the identity secret.

All right, let's get to Tesla Tesla's European sales fell by 45% on average in July compared to last year what the drop is most severe in Germany with a 55% drop and the United Kingdom 60% drop Okay, now BYD if you haven't heard of that, that's the Chinese EV giant They're selling cars all over Europe.

They can't sell cars in this country, but

BYD is the most fantastic futuristic.

EV made, they really put everything into it, and it's only about $20,000.

So, you know, UK at least, they can enjoy it, and Germany can enjoy it, and Europe is enjoying it, but we're not doing anything here.

But if they did come into this market, it would be an unfair advantage, definitely an unfair advantage.

But anyway,

They BYD the Chinese EV giant their sales have quintupled Wow while in the UK they have quadrupled many more versions of this can I read Signaling a shift in consumer preferences competitors are surging ahead of Tesla at this point as Tesla drops by 45 to 55 percent now Tesla's board get this.

I don't know what they're thinking

Tesla's board of directors wanted to hand Musk a huge $29 billion pay raise just to stay with the company.

He's costing $29 billion a day.

Oh man, I know it's a bizarre move.

In fact, it gave Musk significant control of the company's board.

the board that's voting on this, which means Tesla sees Elon as the best suited leader to address the company's challenges in the years ahead.

I think somebody is on something that they shouldn't be taking.

Wow.

And I'll be honest, you know, I've been very soft on Tesla.

I think, you know, Tesla is an EV.

People are buying Teslas because they care about the environment.

And I said, just keep buying them.

But, you know, they should get rid of Elon.

Right?

At this point, I have absolutely no pity for Tesla.

If they can make bad decisions like this, who needs them?

Look, I've got my Kia EV6.

You're fine.

You got the

Gordy Young

space car.

You're good to go.

John Peterson

I'm good.

And I heard, was it on, I think it was on Todd Alba's show.

He was talking about the color of vehicles.

Do you like yellow or red?

Now, this is their question of the day, right?

OK.

And they had people who were really ripping into yellow.

Well, yes.

It had to be a specific car, or yellow does not work, right?

Oh, OK.

Yeah.

Like yellow VWs were kind of cool, right?

OK.

No.

You say so.

OK, well, that's a clown car.

All right.

But anyway, red, I guess, was a little safer.

The third safest car, because it's visible.

people see the red.

And red has good resale value.

And red is one of the most popular colors.

And as I mentioned on the show, my space car is red.

Yes.

Well, that's kind of a burgundy red, right?

What kind of, you know, I'm colorblind.

I don't know.

No, no, you're right.

It is a darker red.

They always give this darker red to all the cars.

Okay.

I don't know why they're afraid of fire engine red.

I would prefer fire engine red.

Yeah, I would actually.

Wow.

But you know me, I really don't prefer red, but.

I told you that.

I bought a red car, but it didn't really matter to me.

I really wanted a black car, but they're the least safe car out there because no one sees it on the road.

Okay.

All right.

You're all over the map on that.

Am I really?

All right.

Anyway.

All

Gordy Young

right.

Hey, John.

Well, yeah, I know you're going to bring something

John Peterson

up here.

I do

Gordy Young

have to bring something up because, you know, we're having a big listener appreciation

John Peterson

party.

I don't know if you've

Gordy Young

heard this yet or

John Peterson

not.

Oh, I know.

Could you fill me in?

Yes.

Well,

Gordy Young

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Dowdrins Distilling and Cottage Grove.

We're going to get everybody together.

This is open to everybody.

It's open and free to the public.

come to greet us and meet us and we want to meet you too and say thank you for listening.

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That's M-E-L-O-N, melon.

You know why it's melon?

Because they have a watermelon brandy.

John Peterson

Oh, that's why.

Gordy Young

Yes, so text us the word before 8 a.m.

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Gordy (host)

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Swing, swing, swing.

Oh, yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Gordy (host)

right.

All right.

Have you noticed that the leaf blower guy and the street sweeper, they've kind of steered clear of us in fact this week.

Yeah, why is that?

Sweeper just went right by

John (host)

here.

Yeah, the street sweeper did, but we haven't seen the leaf blower

Gordy (host)

guys.

That's

John (host)

right.

For quite a while.

Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe maybe the leaves are just maybe they

Gordy (host)

find where they are covered, I guess, I guess.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, anyway, let's continue with idiocracy here.

Dismantling the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering good stuff, right?

I mean, they they just love this.

It seems devoid of an agenda and actually.

Social agenda of some sort.

I

Narrator

don't know

Gordy (host)

why just coincidence the Megas are a step away from taking away all levels of government Wonderful now.

This is really small government And of course overthrowing democracy at the very same time.

Narrator

I

Gordy (host)

don't know who this person is that's narrating here.

It's another web wisdom, but

He hits every mark on this and these are the things we've talked about with attorney Jim Santel as well.

So this is cut 83 and let's listen to dismantling the Voting Rights Act.

All right, okay.

Narrator

The Supreme Court is trying to hide its plan to prevent black people from voting in rig elections for Republicans.

This is bad, like very, very bad.

Last Friday, the Supreme Court dropped a hint towards their plan to destroy fair elections.

You probably didn't hear about it, and that's part of the plan, according to Pemilevi and Mother Jones.

The court's announcement that it'll pick up Louisiana v. Calais signals they're ready and eager to dismantle the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The monumental legislation was a major turning point for the civil rights movement, guaranteeing equal protection

minority voters and that their districts would fairly and accurately represent their populations.

The Voting Rights Act was necessary because previously, white people literally owned black people, so finally giving them access to fair elections was the least we could do.

The case in Louisiana was brought forth by a bunch of racist white people who say that the Voting Rights Act is racist against white people, saying that the equal treatment of minority voters is actually discrimination against white voters, partly because of racism and all

Also, because people of color and black people are more likely to vote Democrat, Republicans want to make it so that they have the legal ability to gerrymander the out of the country to make it harder for their votes to count as much as white people's votes do.

What's happening in Texas is just the beginning.

All states will be able to gerrymander elections to serve the political party they favor and a state that is only 40 percent white will be majority white controlled.

None of what's happening is a coincidence.

This is a well thought out, well coordinated and well researched attack on many.

many levels.

Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation, along with other leading conservative figures, have been working on this plan since pre Reagan and their plan to capture all levels of government, including the courts has worked.

I usually try to end my videos with some hope, but for this one, I can't find it.

This is just scary.

And we will fight this together.

Gordy (host)

All right.

Like to leave people in a upper note there.

Um, anyway, it's a good summation of just about everything we've talked about with Jim Santel anyway.

All right, and this is something too Republicans are believe this or not reprising an attack line from last year's presidential race for elections this year And next by the way betting that anti-trans messaging will help them counter Democrats running on GOP led cuts to Medicaid and other parts of the Trump policy mega bill now I'm

My head is spinning on this

Narrator

one

Gordy (host)

because I don't remember the anti-trans messaging as being the pivotal point during the last election.

The last election was all about immigration.

That's

Narrator

what I remember.

Gordy (host)

I was there.

We were talking about it.

We did talk about some of this anti-trans messaging, but it wasn't that big a deal.

Now they're bringing it back as the main deal.

They don't have immigration anymore.

So do you think?

Do you think this is the message they want?

This is the hill they want to die on?

Anti-trans messaging.

All right.

And by the way, I think the Democrats have a better message and that's, you know, do something about the cuts to Medicaid.

I don't know.

I think I think there are a lot of people feeling like that's going to be a big problem.

Yes.

And there is also, by the way, and I don't know if I have a handy here, but they're thinking about more cuts.

Mark yes house Republicans are now pondering whether to pursue another major legislative push involving Medicaid and Medicare later this year They want to cut it more the GOP may make steeper cuts to Medicaid

This year yet, and for 2026, a major fight over government funding looms, as well as the expiration of the ACA tax credits, which I've been talking about here on the show, which could lead to drastic hikes in some Americans' health insurance premiums.

I mean, these are premiums that are gonna go right through the roof.

My kids and my wife is still on the ACA, and we have seen huge increases, not only because the...

The ACA tax cuts or the tax credits are gonna go away Yeah, but at the same time insurers are saying because they're going away.

We're gonna raise our rates So there are two things going on and the ACA is gonna be almost too expensive for anybody to be a part of anymore Yikes, that's

John (host)

not good news.

Okay.

Well

Speaking of news, we've got that next also weather update and we're going to check in with Savannah Tomay Olson.

She's going to give us the latest on Black Restaurant week in Madison and hippie Christmas.

Find out about that and a whole lot more for John and Gordy on a Friday morning from Madison, Wisconsin.

Stay with us.

Dick (caller)

It's a beautiful morning.

First of all, you guys put on a good show and I think that goes without saying.

I love your show.

I listen all the time.

Unnamed Caller

You have a pretty fun show.

I listen to it most of the time, you know.

Keep up the good work.

Now it's disgusting.

It's a

Unnamed Host/Guest

ploy.

God, I love you.

Get the hell off the stage.

Nice

John or Gordy (Host)

work, everyone.

Sharp broadcasts.

Really good.

Good morning, Jan and Gordy.

Good morning, Jan and Gordy.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Yes.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Good morning.

WMDX92.7, you know, always get a kick out of Tommy Thompson.

Get off

the stage.

He tells the

story about being asked to get off the stage by Trump.

Trump, yeah.

It's hilarious.

Yeah, he does some cute things.

Oh, absolutely.

When he ran,

John or Gordy (Host)

though, it wasn't cute anymore.

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All right.

That's all

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happening.

John over to you.

Unnamed Host

Oh, yes.

We got to

John or Gordy (Host)

get in with Savannah told me Olson.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Yes

John or Gordy (Host)

standing by here.

Good morning, Savannah.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Good morning, guys.

How you doing?

John or Gordy (Host)

We're doing pretty good.

Doing all right.

How are you?

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

I'm doing all right.

My parents are here visiting.

We've got a full house over here.

Where are they

John or Gordy (Host)

visiting from?

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

They moved down to Tennessee to retire.

Oh, wow.

John or Gordy (Host)

Okay.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Well, so they're here, you know, getting some

grandson snuggles.

Oh,

John or Gordy (Host)

that's nice.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

How

John or Gordy (Host)

old is your son now?

Yeah.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

He'll be three in November.

John or Gordy (Host)

Oh, that's cute.

That's wonderful.

Did you hear what we

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

had?

Do

Unnamed Host/Guest

you want him?

Yeah.

Wow.

Okay.

I guess we could have one more in the family.

Earlier we played a father's review of his four-month-old baby.

It was very, very cute baby review.

But, you know, yeah, you have some interesting stories here and that is the Black Restaurant Week is being celebrated currently in Madison, right?

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

That's right.

So I didn't know this and I've covered Black Restaurant Week in Madison before.

Madison was the first city in the country to have a Black restaurant week hosted by its Black Chamber of Commerce.

We started it 10 years ago and now it's spread to all kinds of other places across the country, especially in big cities like your Chicago's, your Detroit's, all those

Unnamed Host

kinds of

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

areas.

But we were the first here.

They only had about a dozen people and they started or a dozen businesses.

and now they have, I think it's 33 this year.

And that's not even just restaurants, there's caterers, there's even some farmers who have supplied stuff.

Luckily, they're able to, have you ever gone to the Jamboree?

John or Gordy (Host)

No, the Jamboree, no.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Okay, so what they do at the end of Black Restaurant Week is for five bucks you can go and you can taste

Stuff from pretty much every one of the caterers restaurants that has participated.

Well, that was supposed to be this last Sunday to kick off Black Restaurant

Unnamed Host/Guest

Week.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Yeah, I don't know if you remember this last Sunday, but it poured just about

Unnamed Host/Guest

everywhere.

Yeah, they

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

were at Warner Park.

Unnamed Caller

They

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

were like ready to do it.

They were like rains.

That's fine.

And then the lightning started and they were like, oh, we can't do it in the lightning, you know, right?

So luckily they're able to reschedule it for this Sunday at the Madison Labor Temple instead of Warner Park.

So they're still going to be able to do it.

But it is, it's excellent.

You go and you will eat very well for $5.

Wow.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Yeah, that's an excellent man.

That's a great deal.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

I

Unnamed Host/Guest

love it.

You know, at a labor temple, I know that I think they sold it, didn't they?

And it's, it's not, it's not long for that area from what I understand anyway on Park Street, correct?

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Okay.

All right.

Well, Black Restaurant Week sounds fantastic.

A lot of great food, too.

So what else you got?

Yeah.

Tell us about,

John or Gordy (Host)

you know, hippie

Unnamed Host/Guest

Christmas.

Oh, hippie Christmas.

Yes.

John or Gordy (Host)

Yes.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

So you guys are right in the campus area where you can, you know, usually see tons of stuff on the...

on the curb, because that's just how it goes every year, right?

Unnamed Host/Guest

They is

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

officially moving day on the 15th.

It's when all the leases end in the campus area.

Have you seen a ton of it this year?

Unnamed Host/Guest

Nothing.

Oh, I've seen some of it.

There's tiny little piles here and there.

I have not seen what we normally see.

Not as big as it usually is.

So what

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

happened?

The Madison Streets Division has added a ton of extra, you know, collection routes.

They've been giving people carts to be able to dispose of things.

But earlier this week, to put a story online, our news director, Shaly Pittman, was out walking around just trying to find somewhere to take a picture of all the piles, right?

Which, I mean, that should have taken her 30 seconds.

Unnamed Host/Guest

I think

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

any of us who have spent any time in Madison, it's like, yeah, shouldn't be a long endeavor there.

Instead, he was walking around everywhere trying to find one pile of stuff at the curb.

So I mean, kudos to the streets division because it sounds like they have been busy because it just doesn't look the way it used to.

I know I

Unnamed Host/Guest

missed that.

I missed that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All the piles of junk all over the place.

Well, yeah, I've been telling my kids, you know, go down for hippie Christmas and find some stuff for your apartment.

Yeah, you can find some good things in the

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

mix.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Okay.

Unnamed Host/Guest

All right.

Well, that sounds exciting.

And thank you again for keeping us updated on the hippie Christmas developments.

John or Gordy (Host)

Enjoy the

Unnamed Host/Guest

time with your

John or Gordy (Host)

folks visiting.

Yeah.

Savannah.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Yeah.

Savannah from WMDX Newsroom

Thanks a bunch.

Happy Friday.

We'll

Unnamed Host/Guest

reconsider maybe taking your four year old pretty soon here.

Okay.

Well, three year old.

Oh, three.

Thanks for paying attention.

Okay.

John or Gordy (Host)

Okay.

Thank you, Savannah.

Appreciate it.

Unnamed Host/Guest

All

John or Gordy (Host)

right.

Savannah Tome

Unnamed Host

Olsen

John or Gordy (Host)

from our WMDX newsroom.

Okay.

13 minutes past the hour, we have a phone call here, John.

All right, let's go

Unnamed Host/Guest

to

John or Gordy (Host)

Dick on the phone.

What do you got for us, Dick?

Good morning, Dick.

Dick (caller)

Oh, real quick, there was a couple things from the last election that were really, really huge issues, too.

The price of eggs and the fact that people were eating cats and dogs in Ohio.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Oh, yes, that's right.

I forgot about the cats and dogs.

Yeah.

I wish we had that song.

Dick (caller)

Yeah.

Yeah, from a lighter thing, though.

Did you happen to see the little bit on the guy that, he's got a George Webb hamburger from the 82 World Series team and the 87,

Unnamed Host/Guest

and

Dick (caller)

he dipped them in polyurethane, he had them on a board.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Oh

Dick (caller)

no.

Channel 15 this morning, it was great.

It was absolutely great.

Unnamed Host/Guest

That is great

Dick (caller)

stuff.

Yeah, I'm thinking of going to get in the hamburger and doing the same thing.

Unnamed Host/Guest

You know, I thought that I thought they packaged them and have them in freezer sections.

Now you can wear the you can buy.

No, that's White Castle.

Yeah, White Castle.

All right.

What were you going to say, Dick?

Dick (caller)

Well, I have something very similar in my garage back in 93 when the Badgers played that infamous game where the students got hurt in the crush.

Well, we had a great big.

Shinde got this shot that we had, and the guys that had season tickets went to the game.

We came back on Monday, and there were a couple brats burnt to a crisp on the grill.

So my buddy, who was a builder, we did just that.

We slacked him on a board.

dated it, put the score of the Badger game against Michigan.

Unnamed Host/Guest

And

Dick (caller)

I still have it.

One brat fell off though.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Oh, that's too bad.

Well, I can't look good.

Dick (caller)

I don't want to know that I saw this guy.

I don't feel so weird anymore.

Unnamed Host/Guest

You know,

Dick (caller)

it was just,

Unnamed Host/Guest

I knew to shellacking things.

I think I'm going to pick up a new hobby.

John or Gordy (Host)

Yeah, really?

Unnamed Host/Guest

Something to keep me busy in my retirement.

Thank you for that call.

John or Gordy (Host)

I appreciate it.

Wow.

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All right, let's get to a story here.

It's all about Jerry Mandarin and Gavin Newsom is out there.

He's promoting this more than anybody.

And I think he's going to get a lot of states to Jerry Mander now as well because Texas is now in session there.

Right.

The Democrats have come back, and they've finally passed this thing down there, and that will spur on like a domino effect through all the blue states to do whatever they can to gerrymander their states as best they can anyway.

But as Gavin Newsom was announcing, his plans for gerrymandering, let's find out what happened here.

Let's check this out.

Here he is, once again,

Gavin Newsom

trying to rig the system.

He doesn't play by a different set of rules.

He doesn't believe in the rules.

And as a consequence, we need to disabuse ourselves of the way things have been done.

It's not good enough to just hold hands, have a candlelight vigil, and talk about the way the world should be.

We have got to recognize the cards that have been dealt.

And we have got to meet fire with fire.

Unnamed Host/Guest

armed DHS agents just so happened to show up outside that rally today.

For his part, Governor Newsom made clear he saw the presence of these federal agents as no coincidence.

Gavin Newsom

I think it's pretty sick and pathetic.

And it should set everything you need to know the setting that we're under.

That they chose the time, manner, and place to send their district director outside

right when we're about to have this press conference.

Everything you know about Donald Trump's America.

And that was top down, you know that for a fact.

Unnamed Caller

They'll

Gavin Newsom

deny it, I'm sure.

Maybe they won't deny it.

So everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies of the president of the United States, I said in a moment, wake up America, wake up.

You will not have a country if he rigs this election.

You will have a president who'll be running for a third term.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Mark my word.

There you go.

Speaking of authoritarian, let's go to DC now.

And Trump says DC is really happy to have those troops in place.

Let's listen.

Unnamed Caller

People are so happy to see our military going into DC and getting these thugs out.

As you know, we arrested a lot of people yesterday.

Unnamed Host/Guest

Despite the president's claim, I'm not so sure that people are so happy with what this administration is doing.

John or Gordy (Host)

Yeah,

Unnamed Host/Guest

that's that's how happy they are there and sound happy I want to insert something in here.

Okay cut 121.

Could you bring that up?

I saw this video and it was just it was God awful and I just want to kind of give you the audio of it as it was happening here at about a minute DC police are Are the new gang in town and one guy was just with us

with his phone was just recording the police walking by and stuff like that.

When they turned around, went after him.

Six police officers jumped this guy.

They took him away in handcuffs.

Let's listen to this.

Just, just play it.

Just play it.

Unnamed Host

Oh.

Don't spray him.

Don't spray him.

Don't spray

Unnamed Host/Guest

him.

Pepper spray.

They pepper spray him.

And they hauled him away.

And it was just one of the worst things.

I mean, the guy was doing nothing.

It was just, I mean, any one of us could have been doing that.

And they just turned around and jumped on him.

Wow.

And it just outrageous.

This is truly an authoritarian takeover of DC.

Yeah.

We'll be back

John or Gordy (Host)

to talking with Brittany Merlot.

Find out the weekend weather next on John and Gordy in the morning.

John (host)

WMDX, I'm in pain.

I think we all are.

92.7, I'm sorry.

I shouldn't have done that.

Gordy (co-host)

Yeah, no dancing in the studio.

23 minutes past the hour.

It looks like a pretty nice day, at least so far here in Madison.

Some sunshine out there and a few clouds in mid 80s.

We're going to talk to Brittany Merleau here in a moment.

I want to remind you, our Downvruns Distilling Listener Appreciation Party is happening Saturday, September 6th, and you're invited.

Everybody's invited.

This is open to the public.

It's free to come and enjoy some some fun times there.

We're going to have some of our WND who are got a flashback

John (host)

to

Gordy (co-host)

another radio station.

Well, it was weird.

WMDX, that's what they call it.

You know, I've worked at five TV stations, about 11 or 12 radio stations every once in a while.

John (host)

You're allowed an

Gordy (co-host)

error

John (host)

every once in a while.

Gordy (co-host)

Thank you.

Let's get back to this.

It's the WMDX Lister Appreciation Party, September 6th.

That's a Saturday at Doundren's Distilling and Cottage Grow.

We're going to socialize, build a little community, you know, get to meet us, get to greet us, and we get to greet.

you as well.

And if you would like to have a chance to win a VIP invite to take a free tour of the distillery and taste some of their spirits and get a WMDX swag bag while we're giving you that opportunity, you enter by texting us this keyword for today.

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John (host)

anyway.

Just stop by.

Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

If you can make it, stop by.

Yeah,

Gordy (co-host)

and Brittany Merlot is stopping by right now.

Oh, Brittany, you should come to this listener appreciation party if you can.

I know it's a drive, but

Hey, come

John (host)

on

Gordy (co-host)

parachute

John (host)

in the

Gordy (co-host)

drive

John (host)

to fly

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

and jump

John (host)

off the airplane and make

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

an entrance.

Yeah.

A big

John (host)

entrance.

Gordy (co-host)

That would be fun.

How you doing?

It would be fun.

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

We missed it.

We

Gordy (co-host)

missed you this week.

Yeah.

Good to have you back.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yeah.

Little under the weather.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

It's good to be back, but I'm, you know, I wish I had a better forecast again.

Gordy (co-host)

Oh boy.

Yeah.

There's two points.

I know.

Yeah.

It's going to get humid, right?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yeah, it is.

Today and tomorrow very hot and humid, nearing 90 degrees, humidity in those 70 degree dew points, so it's gonna be feeling like the low to mid 90s.

Today, tomorrow, we've got showers and storms.

We've got, of course, heavy rain potential through across lots of portions of the state.

Yeah.

Because you're strong to severe storms.

Up north today, this afternoon and evening, we are looking at...

potentially some tornadoes could form.

Hopefully that'll stay away and

John (host)

ease up

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

as it heads towards us.

But there's going to be some strong weather as we go into this weekend and still a lot of juice for these storms to drink.

So I'm worried about flooding again.

Gordy (co-host)

Flooding is an issue.

Man, we've had so much rain lately.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Yeah.

And some of the latest data right now is putting a good four to seven inches just north of Madison, maybe into the Dells.

Hopefully that doesn't verify, but.

It is moving around.

Earlier this week, it was like, oh, the Northwoods is gonna get hit with about two to five inches.

Oh, these runs are showing little pockets spread further south where we could see some heavy rainfall.

And I think that could potentially happen tomorrow.

We got multiple, multiple rounds headed our way.

So some rain and storms starting probably late tonight, 10 or 11 or so.

And

then by tomorrow early evening, I think those thunderstorms are gonna pack a punch.

quick inch, maybe an inch and a half, if not more

John (host)

in

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

some places.

Wow.

So be careful there.

But then that rain, it continues into Sunday, potentially Monday and some scattered showers still into Tuesday before we start to dry things out though.

Yeah.

So what you're

Gordy (co-host)

saying is it's a washout this weekend.

Yeah.

We're just going

John (host)

to

have to

Gordy (co-host)

hunker down and watch out for flash flooding.

But

John (host)

I gotta tell you, my butternut squash looks real good.

Thanks to all the rain.

Your butternut

Gordy (co-host)

squash is doing just

John (host)

right.

Squash.

Okay.

All right.

Well, thank you, Brittany.

We appreciate it.

The pollen levels are really high right now as well.

And we can thank the rain for all of the plant growth out there.

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

All right.

Knockin' the pollen down and bustin' it up, of course.

Very easy.

Gordy (co-host)

All right.

Brittany, thank you so much.

That's Brittany Merlot, our WMDX meteorologist.

Okay, 27 pass coming up in just a few minutes.

Rocker will be joining us with a Maxing preview.

What else is going

John (host)

on here?

Not what else.

We're gonna get into the story with DC.

Everybody's talking about it.

It's one of the best examples of an authoritarian dictatorship that we have now in this country.

So let's go to, where are the troops in DC?

Isn't that kind of a curious question?

Well, this individual has talked, this pundit happened to say what it's all about.

Let's listen.

Washington Pundit

Listen, there are some people in Washington who have some comfort about the fact that there are more agents around metro stations, that sort of thing.

The question for me becomes, are these agents concentrated in the northwest quadrant of the city?

For those of us who spend a lot of time in Washington, I've lived there for most of my adult life.

That's that part of the city is wealthier.

It's more well connected.

And frankly, it's wider, right?

And so you see these agents in places where Donald Trump and more elites spend time and what's happening in the southeast part of the city and other parts of the city that do have heavy crime.

Are we worried more about the real victims of crime in the district?

Are we worried about showing a force for Donald Trump and his political agenda?

That's a real question for me.

A big question, right?

No one's

John (host)

asked that question.

I think that's a very

Incredible observation.

Yes.

Yeah.

Protecting the white, more wealthy neighborhoods and leaving the crime ridden neighborhoods alone.

Interesting.

Interesting.

Yeah.

And another reporter just happened to wonder about DC statehood.

Let's listen.

Okay.

How do you feel about Mayor Bowser's level of cooperation and her choosing to advocate for DC statehood right now?

Well, the

Unidentified Speaker on DC Statehood

statehood, let me do that.

Statehood is ridiculous.

We want to straighten the place out.

Statehood's ridiculous.

John (host)

It's

Unidentified Speaker on DC Statehood

unacceptable.

It's the Democrats want it because the Democrats have you know about 95% in this little area Even I I didn't get it very much.

They want that they want to pick up two senators and that's not gonna happen And that's the least of the reasons why but that's one of the reasons why what we want to do is make

Washington, DC, the greatest, most beautiful, safest capital anywhere in the world.

And that's going

John (host)

to happen.

You know, the thing is, I like to hear the other list of things that are ahead of keeping the Democrats from getting to senators.

Gordy (co-host)

We'll get a Maxing preview with rocker next on John and Gordy in the morning.

Stay with us.

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We'll be playing over and over the earlier voice notes that irritate the hell out of me.

You'll

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Go to WMDS.

So there's voice note right there.

Push the button, send us a message.

And we'll

John Gordy

have to put together, by the way,

Co-Host

we

John Gordy

have rocker in the studio, and we want rocker to at least make some suggestions of songs that he'd like in the introduction of this program.

Co-Host

Because I know the

John Gordy

last time you complained,

Co-Host

and we want to make you

John Gordy

happy

Co-Host

rocker.

So

John Gordy

we'll get to something really rock and

Co-Host

roll, right?

All right, sounds good.

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All right,

Rocker

rocker.

Yeah.

How you

Co-Host

doing, man?

What's going

Rocker

on,

Co-Host

guys?

Good to see

Rocker

you.

Oh, it's great to be here this morning.

What a great day outside so far so far.

You know, I thought I'd bring up a couple of issues.

I heard you guys talking about before we get to Maxink radio first off the hippie Christmas, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And in you guys were commenting on how it seems different.

There's maybe less out there and stuff.

Well, my theory is that.

you know, back, I lived here in the eighties right downtown and did many hippie Christmases, but you know what?

We always lived in flats, right?

Big three bedroom

Co-Host

apartments.

You

Rocker

had to fill them with all kinds of stuff, right?

And then when you left, you had to get rid of all kinds of stuff, right?

So there were these old houses just all over the place, right?

But over the last 20 years, those houses have all become super high rent, small apartments and efficiencies, right?

And

you know, you barely fill up those

Co-Host

things with anything.

And

Rocker

now, and it's usually now you're, it's really expensive furniture because like students have a lot of money compared to when we were like, you know, giving blood to get beer money, you know what I mean?

Right.

And so, you know, the hippie Christmas has changed quite a bit.

And right now it seems more like flood stuff is out there.

John Gordy

Well, that could be true too.

But, you know, you're right.

In fact, the last three or four years,

Rocker

a

John Gordy

lot of the

older homes have been

Rocker

torn down

John Gordy

in the Madison downtown area

Rocker

for the high rises.

So yeah.

Yeah.

And when you do see something now, it's like, oh my gosh, look at that leather couch.

It's really good.

Yeah.

Somebody's already snabbiting.

John Gordy

Yeah.

Rocker

Well, next, you know, I know, I know you guys love Art Paul.

So I saw Art Paul came out with a new song.

So I thought we'd get a little clip of Art Paul Schlasser for you guys.

This is a new song for him.

It's butter and bread.

Oh,

Co-Host

okay.

John Gordy

I

Rocker

think

John Gordy

it's one of his best,

Rocker

actually.

I don't know if it compares to purple bananas on the moon, but, you know, put it on bread.

And the Johnny Gordy, he

John Gordy

did a Johnny Gordy theme as well.

By the way, I like their state trees done as well, and that's with Chris Cameron.

Rocker

Oh yeah, oh yeah, Chris Cameron, he's awesome, I love him.

Yeah, he is, yeah.

All right.

Well, that's what I got.

We'll go, we'll go on to a maxing radio six to nine p.m.

Saturday nights right here on WMDX 927.

This week we have one beer please with Steven beta and we'll be interviewing him and we have some new songs and maybe we even have a new song in a few minutes from one beer please.

Also Mars Hall, Perry Polito.

He used to be the singer for the band Falcon and he's the singer for Mars Hall right now and he's going to be live from the Mad City and

I don't know if you remember Falcon John.

That was back 80.

That was 70s, late 70s, 80s.

John Gordy

I just remember the name.

I

Rocker

don't

John Gordy

remember anything else really.

Rocker

They were a real classic band around here.

So Perry was the singer of that and he'll be in solo.

Excellent.

Cool.

This weekend.

There is also some really interesting throwback things happening.

Groovulous Glove, Friday, August 15th.

That's tonight at the B-Rock.

It's in the Northgate Shopping Center on the north side of Madison and the Many Face Band, which is an original high-vibration rock band based out of Madison, but it features members from the Green Situation, Minglewood, Groovulous Glove, Baghdad Scuba Review, and Electric Spanking.

And they'll be playing tonight at the beer ox.

So one of the great things is groovulous glove is going to get all the other members.

I believe they're there from 1995.

And so they it was groovulous glove into Baghdad scooby review into electric spanking as the evolution there.

So let's go all the way back to the beginning.

I got some music from groovulous glove.

John Gordy

I feel like we should have the time tunnel.

Way

Co-Host

back in

John Gordy

time.

Rocker

OK.

Not to.

bad only 1995 but 30

Co-Host

years

Rocker

this song is called a shake and

Station ID

roaches

Musical Clip

I like

Co-Host

that.

Rocker

Shake and roaches.

That is good.

Didn't everybody used to have like a container like that with a seed stems and a little bit of a rainy day kind of thing?

Right.

Oh boy, that was the 70s, wasn't it?

Yes.

Yeah, it was.

Jane Hobson, you may remember, we've talked about her before.

She has just released a new single and she's coming up here.

She's based out of Chicago now.

Of course, she is here from Madison.

You may remember Dan Hobson, drummer from and founding member from Killdozer.

That's his daughter.

So we really love to see when the youth and the second generation is kind of taking up live music and she'll be up here from Chicago where she resides now and at the high noon summer patio series.

is at the high noon saloon.

That's going to be Friday, August 15th.

That's tonight at 5 30 PM.

And here is her brand new single.

This is called 25 Jane

Musical Clip

Hobson.

Rocker

Strong voice.

Oh yeah.

Good sound.

She really has a beautiful voice.

Coming in here from Chicago tonight, so it's a good time to see her.

at the summer patio series at the high noon saloon that's tonight.

Let's start looking towards next week and see what's going on around Madison, huh?

Okay.

John, I know you like this band, Dogtown Hollow.

Oh, I do.

And Friday, August 22nd, they'll be at the Burr Oak on Winnebago with the also rands and they just put out a new software EP.

It's called Watch Your Step.

It was recorded at DNA Music Labs here in Madison on Winnebago Avenue.

Country Funk.

Uh, Darktown Hollow, this song is called Seven Sisters, brand new from

Musical Clip

Darktown Hollow.

Winter's cold, stories change, well stay the same, playing the changes is the way of the game and you, you can't deny.

But whispers in the middle of the

John Gordy

night.

Downtown Hollow.

Yeah.

I wasn't aware of a music studio on Winnebago.

Rocker

Oh yeah, DNA's been there for years.

Mark Wickham, Brian Daly.

are the two partners there.

And Ryan Daly, of course, came from Smart Studios and Mark Whitcomb came from Sleepless Nights.

And they've been in tons of different bands over the many years and recorded a million bands over at DNA.

It's a very popular studio in here.

John Gordy

Madison, Madison DNA.

Rocker

Yeah.

All right.

Excellent.

All right.

Hey, Shanks Corners Black Party.

It's coming this Friday and Saturday.

August 15th and 16th.

That's at the corner of Winnebago and Atwood, that

Co-Host

little

Rocker

kind of triangle park there in front of the Alchemy Cafe.

And they have a ton of bands Friday starting five to 10 p.m.

Nuggernaut, Blue Shields, Seasaw, Joseph Huber Band, and Great American Taxi.

And of course, on Saturday, there's bands like Salty Dog, Valley Fox, Work, Heat Box, and then the Talking Head Street Band.

So that's going to be pretty cool.

Make sure you get over to Shanks Corners Friday and Saturday, August 15th and 16th.

The Joseph Huber Van.

John Gordy

Tomorrow.

Rocker

That's kind of interesting.

That's

John Gordy

like a brewery.

And I remember Joseph Huber beer was the only thing available during the beer strike

Station ID

way way

John Gordy

back.

Rocker

Everybody had bad

John Gordy

poops.

Yeah.

Well, you know, their Bach beer was fantastic

Co-Host

though, I

Rocker

have

John Gordy

to say.

Co-Host

Didn't have that reaction.

Yeah, they had some good Bach beer.

Oh, we got time for one more here.

Rocker

Ross corn.

And the Spine Steelers.

Ross Thorne is a Duluth Minnesota-based folk Americano singer and songwriter.

And of course, the Spine Steelers are from right here in Madison in Sun Prairie.

They're on the far away tour right now.

They've been in Colorado through the Pacific Northwest.

And they're coming back to Madison Friday, August 22nd at the High Noon Saloon.

And then they're off to Milwaukee at the Falcon Bowl on the 23rd of August.

Far away is Ross Thorne on background vocals and banjos.

Ammo O'Shea and Kate Ruland from Spine Steelers.

It was recorded at Packarderm Studios in Cannon Falls right up by Minneapolis.

So this is a song, Ross Thorn, featuring the Spine Steelers.

So this is called

Musical Clip

Far Away.

Somewhere far across the sea.

Far away, far away.

Pray that my dreams might

Co-Host

come true.

OK, we will be back with more of the Maxing Preview with Rocker in just a moment.

Right here on Chana Gordy in the morning, WMDX.

Musical Clip

Somewhere far across the sea.

Was a fight spring born when he was right

John (Host)

WMDX 92.7, it's John and Gordy in the morning.

More

Gordy (Host)

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A few more minutes here.

What do you got for us,

Rocker

Rocker?

One beer please.

We're going to be interviewing Steven Beda from One Beer Please.

They are a Madison scoff fusion, Madison scoff fusion band.

I got that right.

Steven Beda

There

Rocker

you go.

High noon saloon, summer patio series, August 28th at 5.30 p.m.

Uh, remember that that's free.

So it's pretty cool to go there and hang out on the patio.

Check out a Madison scoff fusion band.

One beer please.

This is brand new from them.

I just got it last night.

It's called it is good for your

Steven Beda

soul.

Together or alone, Nick connects it, helps it heal.

Skin to skin and bone to bone.

Since heavy fears and too featherweights crumble stone hearts to feel love instead of...

Gordy (Host)

One beer, please.

Like it.

Hang on just a second here.

We've got a phone call here.

Katherine is on the line here.

Katherine, good

Katherine from Madison (caller)

morning.

Iron Plow.

Iron Plow.

Gordy (Host)

I

Katherine from Madison (caller)

want

Rocker

to

Katherine from Madison (caller)

see Iron Plow.

When are you playing again?

That's all I want to hear from

Rocker

you.

My comeback show for Iron Plow is scheduled on September 14th at the Crucible here in Madison.

with Abaddon's End, Revolution X, and Mother Hive.

And it's going to be a great benefit for a fellow drummer here in Madison, Big John Smolik, who is with Go Play God, who unfortunately had a health crisis with diabetes in his leg.

And it was pretty bad, but we're going to help him out.

So it's a great cause.

All right.

Katherine from Madison (caller)

And your cause.

Yes.

Rocker

Thank

Katherine from Madison (caller)

you.

No good to hear from you, Robert.

Thank you.

Rocker

Thank you.

Gordy (Host)

All right, Catherine.

Thank you.

Thanks, Catherine.

OK.

Let's see, we got a few more minutes.

Rocker

Well, hey, we got to mention the Eakin Park Festival.

That's coming up this Saturday, August 16th.

That's tomorrow.

The broken boards, cherry toad, seesaw, kids parade, the flavor that kills and Radke.

Make sure you stop out there.

It's a great growing festival on Madison's northeast side.

And let's talk Orton Park Festival.

Orton Park on the east side, August 29th through the 31st.

There's great bands like Paige Gleeber, Heavy Looks.

Poop shovels playing, they're going to be making a reuniting.

And Hot Like Mars, Yiddishous, Automatic Lover, Them Coolie Boys, lots of bands that we've played right here on the show.

And you like Poop Shovel?

Have you ever seen them?

No, I remember.

Classic Madison band.

I want to

Gordy (Host)

find out about Yiddishous.

Rocker

Yiddishous.

Oh, they're great too.

Klezmer, right from right here in Madison.

But I brought in a little clip from a band called Hot Like Mars.

This is called Hit It Hard.

Clip from song

My old man told me...

Rocker

Zappa

John (Host)

song.

Rocker

Yeah, kind of.

Yeah.

They're interesting, huh?

Hot like Mars.

They're going to be at the Orton Park Festival coming up at the end of the month.

OK.

Pretty great thing.

Excellent.

That's the songs I got for today, guys.

Yeah, that's all.

That's what I brought in, but lots of good

John (Host)

stuff.

It's hard to top your first one, Butter and Bread, with Art Paul.

Yeah, that's

Gordy (Host)

great stuff.

Rocker

And this weekend you

Gordy (Host)

got Max Inc happening,

Rocker

right?

Max Inc Radio, 6 to 9 p.m.

Saturday night.

We'll be here live.

We'll be talking to Perry Polito.

He'll be performing.

He's the singer from Mars Hall and of course Falcon from the 70s and 80s.

So it's gonna be great to talk to him about music history.

You know, he's really a legend in Madison been around for many years here.

Gordy (Host)

Excellent.

Very good.

And once again, your band.

Iron plow.

Rocker

Yeah,

Gordy (Host)

that's happening.

Rocker

When is that again?

That's going to be September 14th.

And it's

Gordy (Host)

that'll be your return to the state.

Rocker

It will.

And it's going to be filmed by UW Health, actually.

They're going to they're going to come in and they're doing a little documentary type thing on on my story.

And so they want to get some film clips of the comeback show.

So yeah, I'm under pressure.

Gordy (Host)

Well, you're ready for it, though.

I know you've been working out.

Rocker

Yeah,

Gordy (Host)

getting getting everything to

Rocker

training.

I'm like in training, you

Gordy (Host)

know.

Yeah.

Rocker

Excellent.

I feel like Ozzy.

Ozzy.

You know, he had to train for his gig, you know.

Gordy (Host)

Well, right.

Yeah.

Well, good, man.

Well,

Thank you very much for coming in as usual.

Rocker

Thanks guys.

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All right.

That's going to wrap things up for our show this weekend.

John (Host)

What is the problem?

The question.

The live poll that we had.

What is the result of that?

Here's

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what you got to do.

You got to go to wmdxradio.com.

We have a poll there.

Now the poll is which side of town has it better?

East side or west side of Madison.

Right now the east side is at 38 percent.

The west

West side is at 46% and then neither is at 15%.

Who has it better?

I don't know.

John (Host)

I think everybody's finally, you know, understanding the West side is the best side.

I don't think so.

I like the East side.

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Stephanie Miller is next.

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Talk to you Monday morning.

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All right, we are welcoming our very special guest.

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It is Pete

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Schwabba.

Good morning, Pete.

Good morning, guys.

If I were less mature, I would have said, like, what?

Yeah, after the hearing aid thing, but I'm way too...

I know, I

Gordy (host)

know.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Thank

Gordy (host)

you.

You know, we introduced Pacarena on

Pete Schwabba (guest)

the show

Gordy (host)

for the very first time with that plane.

But it is a major element in your film, The Godfather of Green Bay.

Now you told us it was on Tubi, and

John (host)

we

Gordy (host)

checked it out there.

It's also

on

Prime, which you would make a little money on if people played it there.

So

John (host)

yeah, just a little

Gordy (host)

just

John (host)

a little but I got it.

I got

Gordy (host)

it.

I my wife and I we just love the movie

John (host)

Here did you make that when was when did

Pete Schwabba (guest)

that come out?

We well it came out like 2007 we shot it in 2004 probably maybe 2006 we actually had our premiere at the Wisconsin Film Festival in at the Orpheum and Yeah, it was so it was a lot of fun.

We shot in northern, Wisconsin

I was still living in California at the time, and then we shot a few days in LA and Vegas, too.

But we shot 19 days in the Marinette Menominee area up here.

It was fun.

Gordy (host)

But it was gorgeous.

I don't know where you got the aerial views.

Would you have drones for that?

Pete Schwabba (guest)

There weren't even drones yet.

Maybe there were military drones.

But a guy named the cinematographer Dale Myron, God rest his soul, passed away a couple of years ago.

But he was just fearless.

Camry guy he was hanging he was he was telling the other guy in the helicopter hang on to my belt Really he's hanging out of the helicopter was this a sheriff that let us use took us up in the helicopter.

John (host)

That's nice

Pete Schwabba (guest)

enough to Yeah, give us his chopper and give us his time, but Dale was great and he would when we shot Going to Vegas from LA to Vegas the car ride He was in a pickup truck like two feet in front of this little crappy geo

And he's going like this, like, come closer.

Come on.

And I was, I thought we were all going to die.

I mean, he had sandbags in the back of a pickup truck and he's like, we're going 65 on the way to, it was horrible.

Like some of that guerrilla stuff you do when you're shooting an independent film.

Gordy (host)

But it just gorgeous autumn.

Color in in your film.

It's just it's fantastic and it really sets the mood the the whole feel for you know Green Bay Packers season Everybody in the bar waiting for the game.

It was just fantastic stuff in and I just I thought

that you as a leading man, I didn't really expect that.

But there you are.

You're the romantic interest.

It was just.

Thank you.

John (host)

Yeah, it was wonderful.

Gordy (host)

Of course, you know, it made it a lot easier to accept you as a leading man with Lauren Holly next to you.

So yeah, this was a great role for her.

And she did a fantastic job in that film.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah.

She was so great.

It was one of the most surreal moments of my life.

Like we had started shooting.

And I had met with her in LA, and she was just great.

We were like, oh my gosh, we hit a home run.

She had just adopted three boys.

John (host)

So

Pete Schwabba (guest)

she was kind of coming out of a short retirement of a couple years.

And she was just in a great place.

She was happy to be working again.

And she really liked the role.

She knew a lot about football.

So when she got to the set that night, I remember we were shooting another scene and all of a sudden it's like, wow, all right, this is real.

Lauren Holly is in Marinette, Wisconsin.

So it was surreal and it was just a wonderful time.

John (host)

What was the name

Pete Schwabba (guest)

of the bar that you shot

John (host)

in there?

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Well, it's had a few different...

Names I think when we were I think it burned out.

John (host)

Oh, it's not there.

It's not there burn

Pete Schwabba (guest)

down.

They rebuilt it because it was such a Marinette

John (host)

is a

Pete Schwabba (guest)

suspicious amount of bar fire.

I think when we shot there it was called the whitetail in and then it was up north and then it was a lot of different places but we were supposed to just shoot the interiors there because we thought it looked really beautiful and It was the the crew lit the place beautifully

Um, and then we were going to shoot exteriors at a different place.

It was like this scenic place from the exterior on the river, more fall colors, but it was an independent film.

You know, we had, we had to cut stuff off the schedule and

John (host)

we

Pete Schwabba (guest)

ended up shooting this kind of eyesore bar from the outside too.

So, but it kind of worked.

It was like this roadside place in Wisconsin.

It really, I think we captured

Gordy (host)

that.

I think you captured that whole feel for that.

And now.

The subject matter is, I think, typical of most comedians, right?

They want that big break.

They want some talent scout to notice them and put them on one of the big shows,

John (host)

comedy shows.

Yeah, the Tonight Show.

And in your case,

Gordy (host)

yeah, you were writing about the Tonight Show and having a talent scout at this remote bar in Wisconsin.

That was just funny as heck.

And I got to say that you're... Who was it?

Lance Barber?

who

John (host)

played Kenny.

Gordy (host)

He really great supporting character for your character in that.

That was just a

Pete Schwabba (guest)

goal.

Lance was just like one of those guys.

We auditioned a lot of people, but when he came in, it's like that cliche, like everybody else go home, you know, because this is the guy.

Like he was that good and just a great guy.

We've remained good friends and he's been on Nightlight a few times and I knew everybody knew he was going to

you know, just work a ton and he has.

He's had a really good run with young Sheldon and the comeback.

So yeah, we knocked it out of the park with Lance.

John (host)

Talking with Pete Schwabba here, host of Nightlight on the Civic Media Network every evening.

And now Pete, I wanted to ask you, you know, we you've had a few showings of this, but have you done anything recently?

We want to bring this film to Madison and

you know, rent a theater or something and have a little get together and bring it back and show the godfather in Green Bay.

What do you think about

Pete Schwabba (guest)

that?

John (host)

I would love it.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

And when we released it, Marcus Theaters put it out in like 12 theaters.

That's nice.

And Madison was our best.

People in Madison really responded to it.

So I'm excited to...

People in my hometown did not care for it one bit.

No, you know what, people everywhere, for the most part, the response was really good, but when you watch it in the town you shot it in, no one is paying attention to the story.

You just hear people whispering.

There's my garage.

There's my cousin Phil, you know, that kind of stuff.

So that was kind of frustrating.

But no, Madison, we had great screenings.

I would love to do

Gordy (host)

that.

Well, we'd like to play it here only just to give away t-shirts, really.

I'm a little low on laundry.

I would love that.

OK, we'll give you one.

The thing that the thing is Michael Wilmington did not like your film.

Dwayne Dudek.

did not like

John (host)

your film.

And, you know,

Gordy (host)

when you, when you have these big, you know, highfalutin critics coming out against you, boy, I don't know how do you fight something like that?

I, you know, Dwayne, I don't understand him.

Now he's, he's from the Milwaukee Journal.

Is it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

For him to say you don't have to be overly sensitive dairy state booster to take offense, I enjoyed everything in that movie about the dairy

Pete Schwabba (guest)

state and having a

Gordy (host)

lot of fun with it.

You were having fun with it.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Well, I didn't understand it either, but Michael Wilmington is from Wisconsin.

Yes,

Gordy (host)

he worked at one of the papers here for a while.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

That I don't know, but I remember, I think he gave it like two stars out of four or whatever, and Dudek just

Crushed it and I it was a good thing.

I never came face to face with him for about a month after because I get the deal.

I thought he got a little harsh, you know, for a little independent film and I haven't gone back to it.

I kind of forgotten about Dwayne Dudek.

So thank you for that.

We, you know, retraumatize you.

It's the nature of the business and I don't have any ill will toward anybody.

But, you know, it's we got a great review from Ain't It Cool News, which at the time was like the hip cool.

great, great, great,

Tom's partner Gary Gessman loved the movie.

He said after the Big Lebowski, it was his favorite film ever.

So I was like just kind of blown away by that.

So it opened some doors, you know, but we got some good reviews, but you're going to have bad reviews.

That's just the nature of the piece.

Gordy (host)

I have to say that the cinematography was great.

It really was.

The thing is, when you don't notice the cinematography, that means it's really, really well done.

I mean, you had scenes in

John (host)

the

Gordy (host)

car.

I mean, everything was just very natural.

When you see a local film, it doesn't normally have that touch to it, you know?

And I

John (host)

was, it was really well done.

I love the fight scenes because they look like a real brawl going.

I mean, it just, they were funny.

Yeah, who is that?

Gordy (host)

Who played Jake, Big Jake?

it was

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Tony Goldman.

Yeah, he was doing the arena.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, that was his thing.

Right.

I mean, the whole bar came together when he started doing the pack arena.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

We played the hell out of that song.

That's to me, it was funny because we played at the death.

I just thought it got funnier.

And when we watched the film with audiences,

Gordy (host)

yeah,

Pete Schwabba (guest)

that last shot where he's driving around in the car and he leaves his garage and he's got the Macarena and we've seen him do it three or four times, you know, got a huge laugh.

So that was a lot of fun.

Yeah, a lot of fun with that song.

Gordy (host)

Well, a full box of popcorn for me.

Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 71%.

So that's pretty good, I thought, for Rotten Tomatoes.

John (host)

Yeah,

Gordy (host)

yeah.

John (host)

Ever thought about a sequel?

Yeah, that's what I

Gordy (host)

was leading up to here.

Why don't you make another movie?

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (guest)

that's sneaky.

Well, I'm trying.

You guys looking for acting work or what?

Yeah, that's right.

Gordy (host)

That was our next question.

You talked about it that before too.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah.

Yeah, nobody writes me a check.

I'll make anything All

Gordy (host)

right, why don't we get into the current Films that are out there now you just saw a movie that Dom had just gone out to see yesterday.

It's true And it's weapons weapons weapons.

Yeah, that movie.

What did you think of it?

I thought I gave it genuinely a nine out of ten.

I thought it was really good.

John (host)

Wow

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah, I liked it too.

I thought it was creepy

I thought that was it.

But I had a couple things that I was like, well, overall, I really liked it.

But I felt this director, Zach Craggers, I liked his last film, Barbarian.

Did you see Barbarian?

Gordy (host)

I did see Barbarian.

Yeah, it's very... Both of those films that he directed are very gory.

Very gory films.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah, they get that way.

Gordy (host)

But I

Pete Schwabba (guest)

liked Barbarian better.

I thought it was like a cleaner story.

But I did like weapons, yeah.

Gordy (host)

I

Pete Schwabba (guest)

don't know that I would have rushed to the theater to see it like I kind of did.

Like I drove down to Green Bay yesterday early to see it.

And there was two other people in the theater something's gonna trigger them and they're gonna

Gordy (host)

kill you Gordy and I wanted I wanted to go see the fantastic floor and Gordy wanted

John (host)

to see naked gun At the

Gordy (host)

Marcus theaters here, and I was thinking we could sneak out we could get it in but they're they're out of the theaters this week They're gone.

They're

Pete Schwabba (guest)

his naked gun is yeah.

Yes.

Oh, man.

I'm trying to get David Zucker at my show Because I would love for him to talk about that too like did you like it done?

I thought it was okay.

I thought there was some laughs, but I just don't think he can beat Leslie Nielsen, right?

And Liam Neeson's great, but he's still Liam Neeson.

I'm like watching this action hero, you know

Gordy (host)

Yeah, but you know, he's brutal, right?

He's very serious and hard-hitting.

Oh, yeah

John (host)

Stay with us a couple more minutes

Of course you can.

I

Pete Schwabba (guest)

can stay with you guys forever.

The check

John (host)

just cleared.

I am

Pete Schwabba (guest)

yours for the rest

John (host)

of the morning.

I'm surprised it cleared.

We will continue with Pete Schwabba in just a moment on John and Gordy in the morning on 92.7 WMDX, Madison, Wisconsin.

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And we played the Baudin's because the

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Baudin's did your soundtrack.

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

Yeah, for Godfather Green Bay.

What was that?

How did you make that connection,

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Pete?

I think I kind of got lucky because I just reached out to them on their website.

I thought, you know, the movies very Wisconsin, very Midwest where the Baudin's and

at the time they were between managers and Kurt Newman who founded the band and his wife Barbara were just kind of doing it.

Barbara was sort of their manager so she got right back to me and I went down to a show with some family members over the holidays I think it was in Green Bay and we met and yeah Kurt was into it and he wrote a score and gave us some of the band's music and wrote a couple original songs.

There's a great song he wrote called My Oh My where

Eric Price he's the kid in the beaver patrol t-shirt Is dancing from the bar and then he stops at our table and he's kind of shaking his butt and Lance Barber is cracking up and So that song is called my oh my and Kurt wrote that just for the movie So he wrote a lot of great music specifically songs for the film and a great score, too That was good luck.

It was fun having all that control because everything I had done up until that point I wrote and sold

And it's fun being in those rooms with studios and they you know, but they only made one of the films that we sold called a guy thing and you're kind of You know, you write the script and then they kind of let you dabble with it a little bit and then they kind of send you away or at least they did us so it was It's hard when you sell something and never gets made so that was the fun of the Godfather of Green Bay was having so much creative

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

Now it's it's great the credit goes to Garland Productions is that yeah

Who's the Garland in this case?

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Garland pictures Garland stands for I think it was Gary and Linda and it was the producers Brian and Josh Edding.

It was their parents.

They kind of did like a Miramax thing, but they're

the greatest guys you'll ever meet.

They're nothing like the Weinsteins.

Okay.

Well, that's good

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

to know.

I was worried

Pete Schwabba (guest)

about that.

They're so great.

They're both born and raised in the valley in California, and Brian comes to Marinette, and people within a week liked him more than they liked me.

They're the most down-to-earth guys, and that was one of the smart things I did was surround myself with good people, and they're tops.

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

All right.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Who do you got on the show

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

tonight, Pete?

Pete Schwabba (guest)

A little guy you might have heard of and be familiar with his work called Dan Schaefer.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, sure.

Yeah, Dan and I have been talking for a while now about him coming back on the show.

He's been on before, but we're going to talk about the wire tonight, the TV show, the wire, which is one of his favorites and one of my favorites as well.

And it's widely considered one of the best TV shows ever.

If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.

It's a great show.

And then Rob Brackenridge, one of my favorite comedians, will be in the studio after the end.

So it should be a good show.

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

All right.

Hey, we want to invite you to our WMDX listener appreciation party if you can make it.

If you're in town.

If you're in town.

It's on September 6th.

That's a Saturday.

And it's at Dondren's Distilling in Cottage Grove.

And we're gathering some of our WMDX personalities and love

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

to see

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you come.

It's going to be a fun day, a fun afternoon.

It starts at 3 o'clock.

We're going to have

a tasting party there and take a tour of the distillery and have a good time.

So if you're available, we'd love to have you show up.

Oh, thank

Pete Schwabba (guest)

you.

I would love to go.

That's a tasting party.

Is that wine?

It's whatever they offer.

A big distillery.

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

So they've got a lot of different liqueurs to try as well.

They have liquor.

They have a coffee liqueur, a maple syrup liqueur.

watermelon brandy, they got all kinds of things.

And

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

they have

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the playground there for the kiddos, so you can let the kids play out there while you have some fun tasting some of their fine liquors.

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

I always wanted to ask you, what were the shows that you found funniest?

Way back when?

I mean, I

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

was

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

very inspired by Letterman, Get a Life

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

from Chris Elliott.

Oh, that was great.

That was a great show.

It's been

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

that

Pete Schwabba (guest)

last long though.

It was great.

It was on like one season.

I couldn't believe that.

It was

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

two seasons.

Was

Pete Schwabba (guest)

it two seasons?

Chris Elliott.

Chris Elliott, Brian Murray.

I was, I love Letterman and a lot of people say Carson is the all time late night king.

He probably is, but I just felt like Letterman to me.

He spoke more to me and I know some people love Conan.

But

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

yeah,

Pete Schwabba (guest)

yeah, definitely Letterman and I loved when Seinfeld came out.

I was like, I've never seen a show like this.

Oh, absolutely different.

And so I would say probably those two shows.

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

And what would you recommend as far as the current movie out there?

Would you recommend maybe sketch or Jurassic Park?

Have you seen any of the popular movies that are kind of sitting out there?

Superman.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah, I've seen all of those.

I would say the best, uh, probably the best movie I've seen this summer was Sinners.

Yeah.

Absolutely loved it.

Went and saw

John or Gordy (one of the hosts)

that myself.

It was great.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Yeah.

And I just saw a movie that was in theaters like you were looting to before they come and go so fast, but, uh, 40 acres.

Really good.

You can stream it now at home.

Very good film.

Gordy or John (one of the hosts)

All right, Pete.

Well, thanks for joining us, Pete Schwabba.

Listen to nightlight tonight.

Pete Schwabba (guest)

Thank you guys always fun media radio

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network Tomorrow on the show.

Dr. Jim Conway will join us.

He's a UW Madison professor.

We're gonna talk measles.

We're talking measles tomorrow.

Sounds fun

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measles sounds out.

We talked about references.

It's

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stopian us today

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Let's bring our guest in, Dr. Jim Conway.

He is the UW-Madison Professor of Pediatrics.

Yeah, Professor of Pediatrics.

Jim, welcome to the show.

Good to have you.

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Really happy to be here guys.

Thanks for having me.

John (host)

So one of the reasons we wanted to have you on is we we heard a couple of weeks ago that measles had made its way into Wisconsin.

Do you have any kind of tracking on that?

Do you know is it continuing to spread in in the back

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

and how did it get

John (host)

here?

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah, great questions.

We kind of figured it was inevitable, given that our immunization rates are a little bit lower than many other states in the country.

And obviously, this outbreak that started in Texas and has been spreading now for almost eight months, it was inevitable that it was going to get here eventually.

It really gets here by people traveling who are under immunized, coming into contact, and then dropping into our beautiful state.

Fortunately, we're still in a monitoring situation, but we haven't seen any secondary cases yet.

So we're keeping our fingers crossed that it's not going to take hold and spread widely here.

John (host)

Yeah.

So I remember years, you know, when I was a kid, decades ago, I got the measles and I don't know if I had, you know, got an immunization after that, or if I needed one after that, you know, can you, can you give us a little timeline on this?

Because I think a lot of people our age and, you know, the upper age brackets got the measles and it wasn't.

It didn't seem to be that big of a deal.

It was pretty common.

And a lot of those records way back when aren't there anymore.

So I don't know if I

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

do.

I

John (host)

need a measles shot.

Do I, you know, what, what can you tell us?

Yeah.

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah.

Great question.

So, you know, I think people are so focused on the kids.

I think we need to remember that, you know, most of the transmission as this is moving around the country is actually adults that get into one of these areas, get infected.

It's a disease with a really long incubation period, so people can come back and not even realize that they've got it.

And it is a lot of these adults because I think we need to remember that the MMR vaccine, the measles mumps rubella vaccine, was only routinely recommended for kids starting in 1983.

And then we added a second dose because we realized there was a group of people that needed a second dose.

So we routinely recommended a second dose in 1989.

The vaccine was around in the 70s, but it wasn't universally used.

And so there's a fair number of people that were born in the 50s, 60s, and 70s that kind of snuck in there, didn't get the measles, didn't get the vaccine, or maybe just got one of the older versions of the vaccine, who actually are still vulnerable.

And so for now many years, probably five, six years,

CDC and others have been kind of pushing out reminders to adults that if they are not absolutely certain, better to be safe than sorry and to get a dose of the MMR vaccine.

Gordy (host)

Now, you know, RFK Jr.

has banned a lot of the mRNA vaccine research that is going on out there.

And now there is, you know,

mRNA is a different way of approaching, you know, giving people vaccines than it is to introduce the actual bacteria or the infectious bacteria that was in our normal everyday vaccines prior to mRNA, right?

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Correct.

So, you know, the measles most developed vaccine is actually a pretty old school vaccine.

It's actually live viruses that have been altered and are actually what are we call attenuated.

So they're really wimpy versions.

of those viruses

Gordy (host)

that

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

were that version of the vaccine.

People tried, you know, the original vaccine.

We dug out my records.

I'm, you know, kind of close to your guys' ages.

You know, it turned out I got one of these older...

inactivated measles vaccines back in the 60s, which didn't really work that well.

I got mumps when I was a kid and many other my friends did as well.

So this is kind of an old school vaccine and it's still the tried and true.

But you're right, you know, then we've moved for a lot of the vaccines are just kind of killed pieces of the vaccine.

mRNA is the sort of new idea that you can actually

introduce it the way that a body can make those own little pieces on its own and then those are what is used to stimulate the immune system.

So it was basically, you know, those have been in development for 20 years.

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

Yeah, it's not to try to

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

be just another advanced.

No, it's not new at all.

But the MMR vaccine is, you know, even though it's got an M in it is old school technology, but you know, it's been around for 50 years, tried and true, really safe and works very, very well.

Gordy (host)

Now, RFK Junior is trying to focus on more trials, waiting a longer period of time before approving a lot of these vaccines for public use.

Is that a problem?

Is that an excuse to not have the mRNA vaccines developed?

Is that kind of an

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

excuse?

It may be.

I mean, I think what they're asking for is something reasonable on the surface of it, but is actually unreasonable when you really get into the practicality of it.

And what I mean by that is that when you look at traditional trials for drugs, you have what are called controlled trials with

Gordy (host)

a

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

placebo group, where you give some group of people the drug and you give some people a placebo.

It's been determined by ethicists now for many years that if you have a standard of care where people are getting something, depriving people of that something to have a placebo group is just considered unethical.

And so saying now that for COVID vaccines, for instance, that we've been routinely recommending those now for many years by saying that we need to have a placebo-controlled trial where we actually don't give the vaccine to people is depriving them of something that's become the standard of care.

40 years, we've actually had ways of doing trials where we still give people the accepted standard

Gordy (host)

and

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

can test new versions of those things.

And you're still comparing apples and apples.

You're just doing it in a way that's ethical and safe.

And so that's, I think, where the devil's in the details that they're, you know, kind of taking it on principle, but they're actually unintentionally or maybe intentionally depriving some people of what would be normally what we'd want them to do.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, it's a very unethical.

Approach that's how I always thought I never understood how we could have you know People taking a drug and it's just a placebo and allowing them there Whatever they have to progress and get worse and maybe even you know be fatal.

I never understood Yeah, I never

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

understood No, I know it makes it is challenging But I think when you're starting out with a brand new disease and you don't know what what you're doing You know, it's certainly reasonable to say

you know, we're going to try something because we don't even know if it's safe to do this.

And so that's where like in the very beginning with a brand new disease, when you're trying to tackle it, it is reasonable to start with a placebo.

But once you have something that works, you know, I think the classic examples of samples are

examples are like certain types of cancer, you know, where there was no treatment whatsoever.

In the beginning, it was, let's see what it does by itself.

And then let's try some things and see if they work and if they're safe to do so.

But once you got something that at least works a little bit, then everything after that is incremental improvements and trying to say, what can we do that's better than what we were doing?

And so you keep doing what you were doing.

for one group of people and then you do the new thing for a smaller group of people.

Gordy (host)

There's something up here on the screen.

FDA may not renew authorization for Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine for kids under five.

What do you say to that?

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah, it's tricky.

You know, these vaccines were initially approved under what we call the emergency use authorization.

So instead of going through the long drawn out clinical trials to get them approved, all the COVID vaccines were initially under the emergency use authorization.

And then gradually they've been

approving them in the more formal sense.

For kids, they haven't yet finished all of that work, and so they're still under that emergency youth authorization.

But if they do this and pull back, that potentially leaves us with nothing for kids, at least for healthy kids.

And so that is something we're going to have to look into more clearly because that's just breaking this morning.

But that potentially does...

leave us with one hand tied behind our back.

John (host)

Yeah.

Talking to Dr. Jim Conway, he's a UW Madison professor of pediatrics.

Jim, so it's back to school time.

What should parents be thinking about as far as immunizations for kids before they get back in school?

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah, this is a great time of year that everybody's sort of on the same page that providers and clinics are all thinking about back to school time and

parents and kids need to be up to date to get their kids into school because we have school entry requirements.

And so this is a great time to make sure you're up to date with everything.

There is a new school entry requirement this year for middle school and high school kids to have a meningococcal meningitis vaccine.

And so there's a bunch of kids that are going to need that to get into school.

But it's a great time to then check where you are.

And I think everybody needs to remember that during the

dark days of the COVID pandemic, you know, the healthcare systems were pretty shut down and a lot of people missed out on all sorts of routine care.

And we're still catching up from that.

And so a lot of people missed out on vaccines during that period.

So this is a great time to

make sure you're caught up with all the things that you may have missed out on then, and also ask for a lot of adults that may have missed out on things, what they might be due for as well.

So this is kind of a great time to think about vaccines.

It's a little bit of a downtime usually for a lot of those other respiratory illnesses that happen in the winter when offices get clogged up with other things.

So I would encourage everybody to sort of take this as an opportunity to take a look at your records and see what you might need.

Gordy (host)

Well, you know, as they strip away all of these requirements for vaccines, it becomes

more costly to the public who do still want to have those vaccines for their children and for their family, even just as a precautionary use of the vaccine, which, you know, the boosters that we've all been getting, right?

But taking that possibility away from certain age groups then requires them to pay for it and they're expensive.

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah, it can.

I mean, it is one of those things that, you know, the devil's in the details, you know, fortunately through the Affordable Care Act, by law, all the vaccines for kids under age 18 have to be covered by insurance

Gordy (host)

if we

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

have the vaccines for children program, which actually pays for vaccines for those kids that are on Medicaid or don't have good health insurance.

So at least for people under

Gordy (host)

age

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

18, vaccines are essentially

by law have to be covered or are available for

Gordy (host)

free

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

so yeah that's you know i think of commitment that everybody's made from a sort of social contract that we do believe

that kids need to go to school, and that's a perfect area for diseases to get transmitted, that we owe it to everybody to keep everybody safe.

So at least for kids, everything's covered.

And then certainly for the older population over 65, we've got Medicare, which also covers vaccines through the Medicare Part D programs.

But you're right, you know, for that group of people 19 to 64, if you don't have good health insurance or uninsured, you know, then you are a little bit up the creek without a paddle.

You know, there are programs through public health to get most

to those people, some of those vaccines, but you're right, it can get tricky and a lot of people have to make some hard decisions.

And unfortunately, sometimes do make the decision to defer their vaccines.

Gordy (host)

You know, with what's going on now with RFK Jr.

in charge, he is adding a certain amount of uncertainty and the public is now their perception of vaccines is changing.

And I think after three and a half years of this, we may be in real trouble.

A lot of people may be convinced that vaccines aren't useful at all.

What do you say to that?

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Yeah.

No, I think that's a really astute observation that I think one of the things that vaccines have always been challenged by is that the goal of vaccines is you give them to people, you hope that nothing happens, that they don't have a side effect.

And then, therefore, you hope that nothing happens, but they don't get the disease.

And so it's this sort of null-null, you're giving people something and hoping nothing happens.

And everybody has some minor side effects or at least things they may have had them.

And so eventually, in people's minds, this becomes a balance of, is it worth it?

Gordy (host)

And

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

then when you start undermining credibility and confidence in these things, then people start to make decisions that may put them at risk and makes everybody in society at risk.

So we need to keep reminding people, these things are safe, they're well tested.

And they really are the most important thing that keeps us in our community healthy.

John (host)

Dr. Jim Conway, thank you for being with us.

We appreciate it.

We'll have you back again.

Dr. Jim Conway (guest)

Thanks guys.

Great work and happy to be here.

All right.

Thank you.

John (host)

Jim Conway, UW Madison Professor, Professor of Pediatrics.

All right.

We're going to be back with more of John and Gordy in the morning.

Wrap things up for this Wednesday after this.

Gordy (host)

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Yeah, they haven't been back since then.

Yeah.

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Mark is on the line.

Gordy (host)

We're here with Dr. Tim Slacker from Busted Pencils.

Go ahead, Mark.

Mark from Oklahoma (caller)

Yeah, I wonder if included in the Oklahoma curriculum will be a

little study of really in the 19th and 20th century Oklahoma agrarian socialism in Oklahoma, which is a book that I found at St.

Vinnie's to talk about where the farmers were upset with their conditions.

So they were experimenting with socialism in Oklahoma of all places.

Wow.

And for this goofy Dennis Prager U, I wonder if they're going to teach the

that the Puritans weren't too tolerant of other Christian denominations.

You got cross wearing it, wearing a cross, you'd be considered a papist, and likely to get flogged.

Or if you're a Quaker, like, oh, Mary Dyer, I guess, that she kept preaching Quakerism, and eventually they hung her.

Wow.

I'm

Gordy (host)

gonna guess that Prager, you hasn't gone that deep into the weeds.

Not

Mark from Oklahoma (caller)

yet.

My guess is that Prager, you and a lot of the religions of the great awakening, first and second great awakenings actually would have been unwelcome in Fjord in New England and with what they teach and what they continue to teach would have been met with some rather severe sanctions.

Right.

You know, egg that was the least of it, but, um, because they didn't really tolerate any kind of dissent there.

So, and then to celebrate Christmas in New England until, you know, it was illegal until I think after the revolution.

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

Well, at least that won't be banned, but everything else will be.

We'll be, we'll be going back to those times, those wonderful times that I'm sure Prager you is celebrating in animation form.

All right.

All right, Mark, thank you for the call.

I want to get to something here that you guys always talk about on busted pencils, and that is AI.

Johnny's a little afraid of it.

You, of course, have accepted a little bit more of what the possibilities are for AI.

But, but.

But,

Mark from Oklahoma (caller)

Jeffrey

Gordy (host)

Hinton, he's the Nobel Prize winning computer scientist and former Google executive known as the Godfather of AI, fears the technology he helped build could wipe out humanity.

And he says the tech bros are taking the wrong approach to stopping that from happening.

He has a suggestion here.

He's presented an intriguing solution, building maternal instincts into AI models.

All of them.

so they care about people even once the technology becomes more powerful and smarter than humans.

Hint and stress, it's critical research that should be done.

That sounds logical, doesn't

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

it?

I have, from the very beginning, always said please and thank you to my AI cause.

John (host)

Good manners are important.

Yes.

You knew right away.

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

Just, you know, when the time comes, they'll be like, Tim's a good guy.

Gordy (host)

He respected us right from the start.

His co-host Johnny though.

He'll be on the run.

He'll be a fusion.

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

It is an interesting premise about, you know,

I mean, it really only reflects, quote, you know, what we tell it to reflect.

And so kind of at the base level, this idea of saying, hey, why not just kind of introduce into its training concern and care for people?

Gordy (host)

Yeah, he says here, the right model is the only model we have for a more intelligent thing being controlled by a less intelligent thing, which is a mother being controlled by her baby.

These super intelligent, caring AI mothers, most of them won't want to get rid of the maternal instinct because they don't want us, their mother to die, right?

I mean, isn't that crazy?

I mean, I love his thinking.

This sounds like a great novel, by the way.

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

I mean, it's you know, it really does come out of a lot of the science fiction Episodes.

I mean, you know, I'm a huge Star Trek person next generation the board, right?

They could not they could not figure out how to do anything until it was very simple like wait a minute These are a networked intelligence, you know, humanoid mix of machines and Hey, why not just send a programming thing that says go to sleep?

And

Gordy (host)

boom,

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

the board went to sleep.

Gordy (host)

And then they walk up in the Trump administration, and now we're all connected.

John (host)

Wow.

Gordy (host)

I

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

mean, I think, again, this is a very credible person, though, too, that is putting out there, Nobel Prize.

And how do we talk about these issues?

Because it's kind of going in one way.

You know when you get people like him admitting going like like hey, we don't even really know how it does what it does You know that is kind of like on like what really?

Yeah.

Oh my goodness.

I can I can hear a shatner in the background

John (host)

We got to leave it there thank you for joining us you can always listen

Gordy (host)

to

John (host)

busted

pencils on the Civic Media Radio Network, the great podcast that they have.

Gordy (host)

I think anytime you bring up the Borg, I mean, you're there.

We made

John (host)

it.

Thanks, Jim.

Yeah.

Thanks,

Dr. Tim Slacker (guest)

guys.

John (host)

All

Gordy (host)

right.

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