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a new poll up.
I hope it's I hope it's the poll I wrote.
You know, I gave gave Catherine two polls.
And so far, I think I've only seen one of them.
Well,
the poll question is well,
go to
WMDX radio dot com.
You can find it there.
Which side of town?
No, that's not it
has it
better East East or West Madison.
Yeah, which side of town has it better?
East or West?
Yes.
Madison.
Well, Catherine can always look for my email that I sent my poll questions in.
Maybe.
I've only seen one.
Yeah.
And there is a second one.
Is there?
Somewhere in the ether.
OK.
So she'll
have
to kind of go through the thousands of emails against daily.
Catherine and John are going to start
fighting after the show now.
Well,
it looks
like
it's going to have to be the famous arm wrestling tournament that we gave up on Gordy.
You know, we used to have John and Gordy arm wrestling tournaments.
I don't remember that.
We toured greater Dane County.
It got a little out of hand.
And we decided that we had to call an end to it.
Some fist
fights broke out.
Mainly in the crowd.
The arm wrestlers were well-behaved, but
the crowd
got them really.
Well, I think it was when the motorcycle gang started participating that it soured
a little bit.
Yeah.
And then the tattoo people showed
up, started giving everybody tattoos,
whether they wanted them or not.
It was sad, and
police had
to be called in.
Sometimes his ideas work out, sometimes
they
don't.
That's the way it is with promotional things.
Catherine says I can take him.
Okay, it's eight minutes past the hour.
It's a cloudy start this morning on this Monday.
John Peterson, Gordie Young.
She's pacing my questions.
Because, you know, people at least need a couple of weeks break from my questions.
Yes, I think so.
She's got it all worked
out.
Pretty
edgy stuff, I know, Katharine.
Weather-wise today, boy, well...
We all know what kind of weekend we had.
That was something else,
wasn't it?
Boy, the people in Milwaukee, holy
man.
What a nightmare.
We're checking out our chat from the folks in Milwaukee and they're experiencing flooding basements in the three to four feet.
Sewage essentially in their basements, right?
And I guess one of the excuses was that right wing radio would make a big deal about Milwaukee dumping a lot of this this water into the lake, right?
So So they decided so we can thank right wing radio for the basements with sewage three or four feet deep in their basements Okay, no problem there
Well, around here and now we had a power outage downtown in some spots.
Oh, we did.
I did not know that.
Well, there was some flooding beneath the
ground here.
And there was,
I saw a
video this morning on NBC 15.
smoke just billowing out of sewer grate.
A
manhole cover.
What
the hell's going on
down there?
We had an explosion that we were at a restaurant and we heard and almost saw the walls collapse and now they've got smoke out of the grates.
Apparently there was an underground fire that was pretty well spread out.
You know, in scattered areas or underneath here in downtown area, mainly on West Wash and the 300 block and then in some other areas.
And they took care of it, but it took a while.
Yeah.
And I guess there were some power outages and yeah.
Wow.
But that's all, I think it's all up to, it's all, everything's going okay now.
Except
for
Studio
CBD over here.
There's always an issue.
You know, it's a Monday.
I said
a marijuana rubber.
Well, that's why they call that Studio CBD.
I wonder who always smelled a little funny around
here.
Really?
What's the name of it?
What do they call a studio?
That's A2.
A2, OK.
And this is A1, not to be confused with the steak sauce, but why didn't they make it 1A?
In 2A.
Yeah.
Or just Studio A and Studio B.
I don't know what they
go A to.
Yeah,
Studio A doesn't make any sense.
That is more, I don't know.
Sounds professional.
He does.
Okay.
So does that mean that Pat's not on?
No, Pat's on, I think.
He's on, yeah.
Yeah.
I think.
My hands
are up.
Maybe.
My hands are up.
I don't know.
You're not so sure, are you?
No, I'm not.
Okay.
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Yeah.
Oh, man.
So how
was your weekend?
What happened
with you?
I had a pretty good relaxing weekend.
I sat around the house and did my show prep.
That's all I do.
I always check the show prep because I'm also attached to the file.
And I see that you just edited it like recently.
I'm like, it's every single day.
It was Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
You were on it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm constantly going
to stuff I I know and Anna Anna's happy about that because it you know busy hands are happy And out of her
out of her way
So
so I was gonna mow the lawn on Saturday and of course a rain all day.
Yeah Well, there
goes that boy
and
picked a good day to do that nice
plan.
I was gonna trim up the
the sticker, I have these, these thicker, thicker,
whatever you
do.
I mean, they're awful.
And they just grow incredibly fast.
And I was going to do some more trimming of that.
I trimmed the side of the house, but I was going to do the front of that.
So those plans went up in smoke that went away and couldn't really do anything.
No, you couldn't do a thing.
And then Saturday, I was going to go to the Atwood Music Hall to see a silent movie.
Phantom of the Opera, silent movie, but instead of having like a piano player or somebody playing a keyboard, they were going to have a DJ doing modern DJ music to Phantom
of the
Opera.
But
I
got over there.
I could not.
I drove around that area for like
ten.
Couldn't find a place.
Couldn't find a parking place anywhere because the Barrymore had a big show.
They had the Liverpool show.
The fake Beatles show.
And so that was
jam packed.
That's
entertaining.
I went to one
of those five or six years
ago.
I've been to a few of them.
Those guys probably retired and they've got a whole new bunch of
beats.
It kind of kills the delivery when you know they're like...
55 years old.
Don't quite fit into those trim, slim, beetle suits anymore.
They don't look like them.
They kind of sound like them.
I don't
know.
The group I saw were younger individuals, but you know, the Dells, maybe you're talking about, you know, the performers at the Dells, those seniors.
This is where they go in their retirement years.
That's right.
Which, by the way, I believe we're
building a studio over there too.
For John Gordy.
Our retirement studio.
Our retirement studio in the Delts.
They'll
just have a couple of microphones that are not
connected to anything.
Exactly.
A couple of rocking chairs.
And have a lot, you know, us in a windowed room where people can see the two guys.
Oh yeah.
Makes them kind of zoo animals.
It
won't be long.
We'll be there.
All right, so we get to... Tom, what did you do this week?
You went to Illinois,
didn't you?
Yeah, I went back home.
I actually went back home.
And as I was coming back to Madison, it was flooding, right?
In Milwaukee, I had to go all the way around.
So it was like a four-hour drive back to Madison.
It was way too long.
Well, why wouldn't you...
I just come up through Rockford anyway.
Wouldn't you come up that way, no?
You go up
to Milwaukee and take a left?
Yeah, Rockford, I don't know.
Rockford's always busy.
Rockford's always, I don't know, always annoying.
I get kind of tired because it's just cornfields on cornfields.
So I don't know.
I kind of tried to maneuver my way around and it made it for a longer trip, but it was fun.
It was fun.
It was a good weekend
overall.
Good.
Alright.
But I think I know what time it is now.
You
know.
You know what time it is.
Let's
hear it.
Oh, you know.
You know.
Oh, hit the music.
Here we go.
Okay.
Strap in.
Here we go.
We ready?
I think we're ready.
I think so.
Let's listen.
Here we go.
Oh, it's too good every single time.
Alright, first question.
Would you rather live in the world of the Jetsons or Looney Tunes?
Jetsons, man.
Jetsons?
I'm still
living in the world of the Jetsons.
You talk about that a lot.
Yeah, you do.
I don't know.
Looney Tunes, that would be kind of a fun world to live in.
A cartoon world?
Well, didn't Shaq live in that for a while?
Space Jam.
Space Jam.
That's right, yeah.
Was that Space Jam, really?
Yeah, that was Michael Jordan.
Now that was
Michael Jordan,
right?
Yeah, that was Michael Jordan.
I think Shaq was a part of that movie, though.
So I think he was partially
right.
But it was really Michael Jordan.
Yeah, okay.
See, so you can live in that world.
Exactly.
Yeah, I would say Mooney Tunes.
Yeah, okay.
I don't.
You just like Jetsons.
Jetsons.
Jetsons, okay.
Second question.
Which would you rather fight unarmed to the death?
A chimpanzee or an alligator?
Alligator.
Alligator?
Really?
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't want to kill a chimpanzee.
Why would I do that?
I mean, alligator I'd feel a little bit better about, but, you
know.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Yeah.
I would feel bad for both.
And here's the thing, you know, when I was younger, you go to the state fairs, all the fairs, and they used to have stuffed gators.
Do you remember those?
Stuffed gators.
Yeah stuff either crocodiles or alligators one or the other used to have stuff Well, they had them in the delts all over the damn place.
Yeah stuff, you know about three feet long or maybe
two
feet long
Wow, you
could buy them.
Yeah, they were real
Wow,
I don't I don't remember that
I was
and it
wasn't a stuffed animal legit That's before animal cruelty became a huge
way before
issue
Sorry about that.
I'd
rather fight the chimpanzee.
I think
that would be more
fun.
I wouldn't want to do it here.
To the death, Cody.
So you'd kill the chimp?
Really?
Not in favor of it.
Would
you feel better
about killing an alligator?
How would you feel when the alligator put the chomp on you?
That wouldn't be good.
Well,
yeah monkeys bite these are true question You can't win you can't win these would be you always lose you always lose no good answer no matter what well
you know You find me kind of questioning a really dumb
Okay
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Okay, coming up right around the corner Pam Yaki.
She's returned from her vacation.
Where was she up in Canada?
Yep.
She had a train ride for fans, I believe.
Okay, well, we'll find out all about that.
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has never 623 weather for today
kind of cloudy this morning, 70 degrees highs in the low to mid 80s this afternoon.
And it's time for us to welcome the return of Pam Yonkey, the fabulous farm babe is back from Canada.
You're on a farm tour up there, right?
She was riding
the rails.
Yes.
Yep.
Yep, that's about right.
We had 43 folks on our trip, 43 listeners, viewers, followers, whatever, and it was a great bunch, that is for sure, but it was also very interesting to go across Canada.
I mentioned that we started in Calgary, just a short period of time there, and then on our way to Banff, which of course is a beautiful
national park for Canada.
That looked in really good shape.
Then on to Jasper, that's when we got on to the rails and took an overnight coach ride out to through cam loops all across Canadian Rockies and then ended up in Vancouver.
And as we were coming across Canadian Rockies, you could really see
why there were some issues with our air quality here in Wisconsin, because the last time that I looked, when we got to Seattle, they were talking about it.
The amount of fire that is currently burning in Canada is basically the size of Minnesota West.
That
tells you how big Canada is, first
of
all.
And then just fathom how many acres how many how much square area is burning when we were coming on the train We would get into some of the valleys or you know come across some valleys and you could tell that there was smoke there as well then we got to Vancouver Island Which is exceptionally dry talk to a bison producer there and I I swear to you I don't know how these animals were managing with nothing, but you know literally
parched grass to try to keep him going.
So he was bringing in alfalfa cubes to feed his bison because he wants them to get in good shape before the winter.
And as he's doing the interview with me talking about this, a helicopter with a water bucket goes overhead because there was a wildfire about three miles away from his place.
And I said to him, what do you do?
I mean, not trying to be funny.
What do you do if
This catches and comes your way.
I mean, he's got 50 had a bison that move only when they want to move if you know what I mean And if they decide they're going to move let's say to get away from a fire They're not much fence gonna stop them and he said yeah, he'd probably have to rely on neighbors and maybe even Emergency responders his buffalo from ending up on one of the major interstates, but yeah
Definitely dry out and out all across Canada every place we went like I said with maybe the exception of BAMP
and
they've got water rules in place really really stringent water rules in place People are not allowed to water their grass like only every other day And so like I said for a lot of people that pride themselves on their gardens and their flower pots etc.
They were really
really languishing with all the heat and the dry weather.
Well, we should get some of our Democratic politicians up there because as we all know, the Democrats can control the weather.
So just throwing it out there.
So what about the State
Fair?
The State Fair was called
off.
Yeah, the last day because of all the flooding.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, that was a skunk.
I was over there.
So I came right from the airport.
from the Canada adventure right onto State Fair Park because we had the governor or we had the blue ribbon live or blue ribbon dairy
Let's start again, Yankee.
We had the Blue Ribbon Meat Products auction on Tuesday night of State Fair, and then Wednesday night I was part of the Governor's Blue Ribbon Livestock auction.
I just reached out to a bunch of my buddies that were there yesterday afternoon, and they dispersed.
They got cattle off the grounds.
Now the barns where the animals are on the high part of State Fair Park, so the ground is a little bit higher up towards the youth dormitory and things like that, but they just got the...
say heck out of there.
It was such a mess.
You know, state fair officials canceled the concert Saturday night.
So you knew that things weren't going to improve.
And basically everybody started packing up and leaving grounds.
Saturday night when they decided Leonard Skittered was not going to perform and then the rest of them took off on Sunday morning when they got all their trailers and and cattle pulled together but Everybody's safe everybody.
All right, but you know, that's a day of revenue that the State Fair Park is quite missing when it comes to operating expenses and looking at things for 2026 Well,
let's talk about the fresh farm produce rolling out in the stands all through the countryside.
You see them everywhere
Yeah, now you are it's like all of us
an explosion.
The paper bag of tomatoes will be showing up on your doorstep soon.
You know, and the sweet corn, sweet corn is a plenty right now.
Larry, all some from all some foods in Friesland says they're rolling on the red and white potatoes out by arena.
So look for those at the at the grocery store.
Just start stocked up, folks, because you know how it goes, fellas.
Once
this
Once this stream begins, it doesn't shut off for quite a little while.
Everybody
is done.
Yeah, that's great.
I love it.
We don't have time for Bill Gates Butter.
But we'll do
that maybe Friday.
Yeah.
I'll
do my research.
OK.
Yeah.
Do some research.
I'll come with a rebuttal to Bill Gates.
How about that?
Yes, please do.
We need some defense here.
All right.
Bill Gates is making water now.
OK.
Have a good Monday,
boys.
All right, Pam.
Thank you
so much.
That's Pam Yankee, fabulous farm babe.
Back in the States now.
We're having some
fun up there in Canada.
Wow.
Yeah.
Great to the trip.
Hey, coming up in our next half hour, we're going to tell you how you can win VIP passes to our listener appreciation party.
Yeah, we're having a big party.
That's right.
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And we're going to also get into a couple of idiocracy
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All right.
Um, I just want to catch up on a few texts here.
We're talking about the Smoke coming out of the greats
in Madison in Madison
Manhole covers.
It was I mentioned the explosion that we Experienced at short stack when that was around.
Yeah, and somebody wrote that he and his wife were there when this happened.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was quite the day.
We were sitting
just wrapping up the show and the big explosion happened, the windows rattled, the tables shook.
I
mean, it was really something.
Thought at first maybe somebody ran into the building or something.
You know it was just a huge thing
And then of course we were talking about you know the sewage backup in Milwaukee because of the rains and flooding there and how right wing radio would much rather have it in people's basements than shooting out into Lake Michigan I guess there's really no good choice there, but Anyway, you can blame right wing radio for at the smelly house and the destruction
Mark wrote, what the hell?
As if it didn't know it was wrong.
I don't, the first dissentence didn't really come out on this.
But he did say Wisconsin Republicans are blaming the Canadians that the fires are still burning there.
They don't get just how big that area is and it's a wilderness and it's tough to really get out there and fight the fire right.
And then he said, they also have fires that are partially underground.
Pete fires, essentially.
So thanks for that information, in-depth information about the fires in Canada.
And oh, by the way, we had the question about what would you much rather what live in?
Yep, would you rather live in Jetsons or Looney Tunes World?
Looney Tunes World.
And Mark also wrote, with Trump, we already live in the Looney Tunes World.
Yes.
And Catherine Catherine you're on fire man
Catherine Texas our skies are being choked Midwest lawmakers file a joint complaint over Canadian wildfire smoke
Yeah, why why do they keep burning their fire force up there?
I mean shouldn't you know shouldn't they just Take a break.
Yeah, it's yeah, like they have control over that.
I know it's crazy stuff
You can call us, phone lines are open, 608-879-8255.
What do we have for idiocracy
today?
I'm just gonna play off of what we're seeing up here on the CNN screen.
This is crazy stuff, right?
Trump wants to take over DC.
He wants to take it over, even though all the crime rates are down, all of them, in all the categories.
Right across the board.
All down, right?
He wants to take it over now because there is a carjacking.
Now this is what happens when you have somebody micromanaging something, right?
He's got his hands and everything.
He's got China computer chips.
He's all over the place.
And he can't do anything right in Russia.
Yeah, the threats.
So now he is going to take over.
Washington DC and you know, I think the Republicans really want to do this They want to make sure that Washington DC doesn't become a state and they actually have representation in some way shape or form This is the way to keep those votes out because if Washington DC became a state that would be a number of votes for
the
Democrats
well, that's right and Trump also declared that the homeless should just move out of DC immediately just get out get out
Move out.
You know, I'm sure that they had plans to move on eventually.
But you know, I thought, what a stupid thing to say, like they have a choice.
Like they have the transportation to go.
Right.
What an idiot.
Just
move
out.
What a loser.
My God.
OK, I didn't really call in the names now, but you get the idea.
It's not a smart man.
It's not happening up there.
It's always something every day.
It distracts us from the Epstein files, which will not go
away.
That's right.
That's right.
And we won't let it go away.
Although we have kind of stopped talking about it because I got tired of it.
And you have a short attention span.
So look
out.
So look out.
Head notice.
That's why we move from subject to subject so quickly.
OK.
What are we going to move to now?
Well, what we're going to go to this time is
Kamala Harris.
All right, let's go to Kamala Harris.
This is cut 10 and she made predictions just as Hillary Clinton made predictions when she was running for president.
Sure.
And everything is coming true again.
Well, it's not really hard to predict what Trump is going to do next.
Chaos.
So why don't we listen to this little interview and listen or take some credit.
Okay.
All the performances I've ever seen, you smoked them like a ham.
I just want to remind everybody, you warned everyone about the future under our present president.
You said he would prosecute his political enemies.
He would cut Medicaid and Medicare.
He would ignore court orders.
He would alienate our allies.
He would give massive tax cuts to the rich.
And I know you're not here to say, I told you so.
But would you like to?
But let me let me just say this You are correct that I did predict a lot of it But Steven what I did not predict was the capitulation I Didn't predict that I didn't roll
over for this present.
I didn't I didn't see that
I didn't see that coming.
And perhaps it's naive of me, someone who has seen a lot that most people haven't seen.
But I believed that on some level, there should be many who consider themselves to be guardians of our system and our democracy, who just capitulated.
I didn't see that coming.
Yeah.
And no one did.
So it was amazing the way Congress folded, just like that.
Yeah.
And we could kind of see it with the Supreme Court.
Yeah.
Knew that was probably in the mix, but not as much as they've been just caving on everything.
And following a story that I think we'll have on tomorrow, but it has a lot to do with the restructuring of government itself.
And I think I believe that a lot of the department heads, which we know are complete idiots.
These people aren't qualified for any of these jobs at all.
But now I believe he is going to designate them as having the ability to cut funding or accept funding for their departments.
So if Congress says, hey, we're going to fund this, this, and this in...
these certain areas like the EPA or Food and Drug Administration, the department's heads, the heads can say, no, we're not going to, we're not going to take any of that money.
We don't need it.
We're not going to do that.
We're going to get rid of that department.
Actually, you know, they can do anything they want at this point.
These unqualified individuals that Trump put in place.
Yeah.
Big story.
And I got to put that together.
Maybe, maybe that was it.
Maybe
I just described it all right there.
I tipped your hand a little
bit.
I thought I didn't read a lot of the information.
Maybe I did.
And I just spewed the whole story right here.
Damn.
All right.
Well, I don't know what we're going to talk about tomorrow.
And then we have
what?
Oh, no.
Oh, it is that time.
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Yeah, okay.
I gotta find it.
All right.
Hang on a second
let me just explain that you need to text the word coffee to us use your civic media app text to win and the word is coffee okay why well they have a coffee liqueur
Oh,
good to see you there.
Distilling, see?
Each of these words has something to do with something they distill.
All
right.
So coffee is the key word.
Text of win, and you and a friend will go to our listener appreciation party at September 6th at 3 p.m.
at Downdren's Distilling and Cottage Grove.
By the way, just want to mention this is open to everybody.
It is.
But these passes that we're giving away are VIP passes.
You get the tour of the distillery and also some swag.
But anybody can go.
But everybody
can.
All right.
Sounds fantastic.
Okay.
It'll be a fun time.
Did you find it?
What?
All right.
Here we go.
Oh, coffee.
Yeah.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
He hasn't been here in a while.
What is going on?
Did you ever see the show
Twin Peaks?
I
have actually.
That's where it's okay.
That's what it's from.
Okay.
It's that little person who went actually backwards and
They recorded him saying it backwards, and then they played it forward.
God, that's scary.
That's a scary, you know.
I know.
I love that.
I love it.
Something wrong with me.
I know.
OK.
Well, it is 648.
When we come back, we will continue.
We'll have more.
We will continue with idiocracy.
Oh, no.
Is that what we have next?
It's all idiocracy.
Everything's
idiocracy.
That's right.
OK.
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coffee coffee Okay, let's get to something here.
I've been holding on
to
this for quite a while It was Trump exposing just how bad Howard Stern and Stephen Colbert are I mean this guy is taking credit for a lot of things.
He shouldn't be taking credit for I understand the networks really actually decided this and it wasn't pressure from Trump at all from the start of
that I read, right from the network itself.
So anyway, this is Trump taking credit for it and laying it a Howard Stern and Stephen Colbert as you might have heard, Sirius XM is dumping Howard Stern.
Well, he's decided he doesn't want to go anymore.
I mean, he decided.
He's making 100 mil a year, 100 mil.
I know, you think one season would be enough, right?
He's been on the air there forever.
I
know, and you're
still trying to
sell me this Howard Stern package.
Honestly.
Last week,
last week, they were still telling
me this.
Okay.
Because I got, you know, I got the space car now.
I know.
They've got an XM in it, and they're calling me.
I'm saying now that you have the car, hey,
we got
Howard Stern on and up there.
I don't think you do, but you better check your notes.
Well, he's still on.
Well, let's listen to Trump on this thing.
going.
I don't know, but I would imagine because it get bear has no talent.
I mean, I could take anybody here.
I could go outside on the beautiful streets and pick up a couple of people that do just as well or better.
They get higher ratings than he did.
He's got no talent.
Fallon has no talent.
Kimmel has no talent.
Then next, I'm going to be going.
I hear they're going to be going.
I don't know, but I would imagine because it get, you know,
bear
has better ratings than Kimmel or Fallon.
You know that.
Howard Stern, it's a name I haven't heard.
I used to do a show, used to have fun, but I haven't heard that name in a long time.
What happened?
He got terminated?
You know when he went
down?
You know when he went down?
No, before, when he endorsed Hillary Clinton.
He
lost
his
audience.
People said, give me a break.
He went down when he endorsed Hillary Clinton.
So it turns out that Colbert is taking a little piece of that out where he says Colbert is, you know, number one.
So they're using it in a promo now.
Well, thank you, Trump, for the endorsement.
I am number one.
OK, let's go back in time.
OK.
In in just a moment first.
I want to get to how normalizing things is taking place in the media We have a CBS talk host who was talking about Colbert and Trump's supposed takedown of Colbert Normalizing that so this is this is okay.
Well, let's listen to this cut cut 41
that these late night shows are what he called like a blockbuster kiosk inside a tower record.
So the business is broken.
And what no one seems to acknowledge is that the politics also changed, the business changed instead of the politics.
And it got way more one-sided than anything Johnny Carson was ever doing.
I think we should reflect on those changes as well.
It's been a big shift culturally in that regard also.
I hear you, but I think many people feel there's another way to do it.
It's a very difficult position to be in, to disagree with something that companies doing, but also still loving your job.
and loving what you do.
I feel, I really feel for Stephen Colbert.
Yeah.
I mean,
these are
late night comedians.
This is their job.
This is what they're supposed to be doing, you know, in another time.
And let's go back here to the Smothers Brothers time.
Yes.
They were huge critics of President Lyndon Baines Johnson.
Yeah.
They got a letter from LBJ.
After all the criticism.
Unlike Trump, LBJ saw comedians in a completely different light, and this is an impression of LBJ reading his
letter.
They have given the gift of laughter to our people.
May we never grow so somber or self-important that we fail to appreciate the humor of our lives.
Wise, wise words,
wise
words.
So that was somebody impersonating LBJ, reading his
letter.
And I think we've got time for this.
This is LBJ.
He's got an answer to the anti-DEI and not seeing color thing that the Megas are into right now.
Let's play this very quickly.
Here we go.
43.
Okay.
But freedom is not enough.
You do not take a person who for years has been hobbled by chains and liberated.
Bringing up to the starting line of a race and then say you're free to compete with all the others and Still just to believe that you have been completely fat
There you go.
Hmm So and that's what's happening now, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway,
well that's a
flashback from I 50 years
I know and I didn't like him
because
you know, right
of the draft and Yeah, more he actually he had negotiated a piece
agreement that Nixon nixed
behind the
scenes and Johnson wasn't happy about it, but he wouldn't reveal
that
that was going on behind the
scenes.
Coming up in our next hour, Amy Horak will give us some agricultural advice on your landscaping and garden coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.
Stay with us.
It's a beautiful morning.
First of all, you guys put on a good show, and I think that goes without saying.
I love your show.
I listen all the time.
You have a pretty fun show.
I listen to it most of the time, you know.
Keep up the good work.
Now it's disgusting.
It's a
ploy.
That's what it is.
God,
I love you.
Get the hell off the stage.
Nice work, everyone.
Thanks, Tommy.
Sharp broadcasts.
Really good.
Good morning, Jan and Gordy.
Good morning, Jan and Gordy.
Good morning, John and Gordy.
Good morning.
Good morning to you.
It's WMDX.
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Yeah, he's
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We're all
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Let's go
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now.
We've got Dick on the line.
What
do you got
for us this morning?
Good morning, Dick.
To this meeting that
He's going to have with
Putin.
Oh, yeah,
you know, there are those that said that at the end of World War two, the meeting before Potsdam, that maybe, you know, Roosevelt got, you know, kind of taken advantage of.
At least he had the excuse of poor health.
This guy's got poor mental capacity, but I think a parallel, I mean, you know, how history repeats itself.
All he's going to do is give up the house.
You just know it.
Oh, yeah.
He's already done.
I don't
see it going.
Yeah.
And it's going to not be good at all.
And then to do it on American soil on top of all of it.
Oh, I know.
I know.
In Alaska of all places.
Seriously.
Well, maybe you'll have, maybe I know how he could pull himself out of this.
Yeah.
He should get.
She could
she could be on lookout because she can see Russia All right, dick, thank you.
I'm having a sera
peeling.
Yeah, I never hear about her anymore.
Well, you know Something called white trash.
Let's let's get the mark Mark
good
morning for us.
Yeah.
Well disturbing enough is the bronchers coming out with him
I'm taking over DC and protecting the little cyber criminal big balls.
Let's remember that guy was even from a previous employer to give information.
I think it was actually cyber stock in the FBI as well.
They could talk straight about that.
But for this Republican talk about the Canadian wildfires causing discomfort in our environment, what about global warming in the first place?
Because none of these Republicans want to admit that the climate change is actually happening.
and actually combatting it by putting up putting up more more windmills more solar facilities i mean every new commercial facility in this country should have a solar panels on this roof if possible it is just it's beyond me that i'm recall even though i i'm not represented by a tomahawk republican i think i'm going to have to call his office and ask him just how idiotic he is to propose something like this when they don't want to do jack squat about climate change in the first place
I know, you know, it is, it is ironic that they're complaining about the smoke from Canada when they're encouraging climate change.
Yes.
Gotta remind them of that every once in a while.
Disaster
after disaster after disaster.
I know, yes.
Because
of them.
Flooding.
And we're
spending billions of dollars on climate change just to fix things.
Yes.
Yeah, I grew up up north and there was times where this is, you know,
50 years ago now a little more but those wildfires burning in the in the brool river state forest and 20 miles away from it we could smell it you know in Oakland, Wisconsin I mean it is just it is just and those are just smaller much much smaller fires but they don't seem to get that these fires apparently in the wintertime they go underground they go to you know they're burning in the peat underground and
in the spring they start to flare up again, but part of the reason for that is we're not getting the actual moisture up there because of climate change.
Yeah, here
we go.
Right.
Thanks guys.
All right.
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you.
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It's open to the public, and everybody's invited to attend the party, but VIPs get a tour and tasting for free.
How do you become a VIP?
Well, you text us the word coffee.
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Coffee is the text word.
You can do that before eight o'clock and you'll be in the mix.
We'll draw a couple of winners every day.
We're gonna have a bunch of people joining us at Dondren's Distilling.
Again, this happens September 6th.
That's a Saturday at 3 p.m.
And we're going to be socializing.
And John, we're going to be building community over drinks and finger crossed good, good weather.
Is that like we're building a community?
I didn't
know we had to build a community while we're out there.
That's going to take a lot
of
hard work.
Like former President Carter, right?
We're putting up holidays.
Yeah, I guess I don't know.
I'm ready for it.
Okay.
Anyway, we're giving you a chance to win the VIP invite to the party.
You and a guest and includes a free tour of the distillery, the tasting
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There's a kids area out there.
Yes, they have a playground area.
It's going to be great.
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So listen to us every morning.
And you'll have more chances to win the rest of this week and next week.
And
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That's right.
We're a little rusty on that.
We'll have to get out our balls and practice a little bit.
Anyway.
Yeah.
You can join us September 6th at Down Dreads Distilling in Cottage Grove.
It's not easy catching those balls when
you've got those big gloves.
Yeah, the big shoes.
It's really tough.
They're not taking, yeah, they're not taking out their balls, by the way.
They're just letting you know they're not.
All right.
Yeah.
Well,
no, the squeeze balls.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't think he's familiar with the squeeze balls.
I think we had, I think we're out of, you don't know what we're talking about.
That's
what I mean.
I was a little nervous there on the
air.
at least throw that disclaimer and I understand it.
What are they called?
They're
stress
balls.
Nevermind then.
Okay.
Again, the keyword is coffee.
All right.
You know, I was thinking about this over the weekend and it took me a while to kind of formulate my thoughts, but I did jot them down here and I just want to run this all by you about ice.
You know, they're recruiting people.
Uh, but I'm also thinking that this is the new federal brown shirt police force that Trump is putting together.
And it's a permanent thing.
This is a five year deal.
If you get the $50,000, you're there on the hook for five years.
So.
Yeah, this is try that under a different president.
It's not gonna happen.
Anyway, it all adds up.
Let's go over some of the facts here I jotted down.
Groom the mega cult with Trump products.
They can buy, wear, and invest in emotionally.
Cementing their allegiance to Trump while being walking billboards for him, okay?
It's called identity fusion.
identity fusion where if you criticize Trump, you criticize them.
That's how invested they are in the Trump cult.
It started with eliminating the administrative state and Congress's jobs, basically, and then coercing businesses to do what the president wants them to do, telling the schools what kind of curriculum they're going to have, and...
He's also controlling the U.S.
and global economy all at the same time.
Now, of course, he wants to take over D.C.
and run that.
It's kind of a mayor-like thing, I think.
I don't know.
Then Trump then loaded up the administration with known loyalists and corrupt lying right-wingers and normalized this obvious extremism.
But immigration and DEI, they're not allowing that anymore.
And that's out in the open.
It's a militarization of the government that won't just be used for people of color.
They're gonna be used for everyone.
That's why they're putting together this almost permanent brown shirt police force that Trump envisions.
I think he might run again.
You think?
Yeah, I think that's one of the things.
Here's the thing about the ICE recruitment deal.
They're using white nationalist slogans.
White nationalist slogans.
Word for word.
This is from Homeland Security.
This is an actual ex-post.
Serve your country, defend your culture.
White.
No undergraduate degrees required.
Well, that's good.
You don't have to be smart to be a part of this.
The slogans like only traders help invaders.
Another slogan, big or small, deport them all.
Homeland Security is using actual white nationalist pictures of Uncle Sam nailing up a sign reading help your country and yourself report all foreign invaders This is a Nazi poster by the way hmm that D8 DHS is using and they have a telephone number on those posters.
I know
Nazis printed up these posters.
These are actual Nazi posters from current Nazis, not way back when.
And they're using them.
And this is what white nationalist Mr. Roberts, that's his post name.
He loved the recognition.
He posted this on X. This should inspire you all.
I made a digital poster.
White Landia made some too, and then printed them out.
White Landia, that's
another
post name.
There was no sign of having any impact with these posters when one person tearing it down after we put it up.
So then he, in all quotes, this is it, today our efforts are coming out of the White House.
So the White House is actually using the same posters these white nationalists printed up themselves and they're using it to recruit for ICE.
All right, let's let's do we have time.
I think we have time for this This is ice recruiting on South Park.
Okay.
Now.
They picked up on it immediately, right?
Yeah, so I don't know how they managed to find out about this cut 79 but let's see what South Park has has in their recruiting All right, here we
go.
Are you looking for a new career?
Why not join the ICE?
There you go Wow
That's the jingle
South Park.
I should
use that that is from South Park and amazing and this is a how South Park Portrayed Kristi Nome.
All right.
Let's listen to cut 80.
Okay.
All right.
Got it.
Go
featuring the director of Homeland Security Welcome to the team recruits on Kristi Nome head of Homeland Security
A few years ago, I had to put my puppy down by shooting it in the face.
Because sometimes doing what's important means doing what's hard.
I just want to mention here.
I want you to pick it up right from there.
But every time you hear her shooting something, she's shooting a pet.
All
right.
Now we'll ask the same determination of you.
Because detaining and questioning people is never easy Okay,
that's from South Park it is shooting pets Mm-hmm.
Hey when we return we've got You get an update from Brittany Merleau on all the crazy weather going on flooding in Milwaukee and everything else coming up next
WMDX.
It's John and Glory in the morning.
722.
Apparently, Brittany is under the weather.
How ironic.
Oh, yeah.
But cloudy.
This morning we'll see sunshine later highs around 83.
We're going to ask Brittany a little bit about the Milwaukee flooding, but of course we had some problems here in Madison because of flash flooding
and there was
smoke.
Yeah, there was smoke coming out of manhole covers.
It was really quite a situation.
They called in MG and E workers and.
Of course, the fire department was involved in it.
Looks like some residents lost power for a while.
And I believe all the power is back on.
There were some power outages right around us here,
but
300 block of West Wash.
I was without power.
And again, I saw some videos, some of the smoke coming out of the manhole covers.
That was really something.
Reminded me, John, of when we were at Shortstack and wrapping up our program, there was a big explosion.
Again, underground explosion, manhole cover went flying.
And we caught it all on video.
as we were wrapping up our show that day on that Wednesday.
They never really talked about what the problem was on that.
I know.
But, you know, with all the rain that we had.
Well, that's my excuse.
And I
apologize to Madison.
I thought I'd get out of the rain and start grilling.
What?
Under a manhole cover.
Last night you were doing this?
Yeah.
I didn't know you were downtown doing that.
Sure.
Really?
And the smoke from the grill, it just barely frightened a few people.
The grill got out of control a little bit, huh?
Yeah, yeah, just a little.
But I just thought I'd get out of the rain, but oh well, it didn't turn out well for me.
I'm
sorry to hear that.
By the way, it's 100% humidity, 70 degrees for the dew points currently.
So
it's feeling pretty
muggy out there.
Pretty muddy.
Oh, awful.
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Right.
That sounds like fun.
I
can't wait for this, actually.
What?
Yeah.
The big party that we're going to have.
Oh, the listener appreciation party.
Key word is coffee.
And that's because they have a coffee liqueur.
Yeah.
Maybe we can taste test that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh,
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It's open to the public.
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Okay.
Yeah.
This this ice recruitment thing is a total disaster.
Just now they're
There's no honor among thieves.
Let's just put it that way.
Okay, because
it was a great
band by
the way Madison
But but this is the thing Yeah at the end of July in Florida Hundreds possibly thousands of sheriff's deputies and police officers working at departments that partnered with ICE received emails imploring them to consider joining ICE
during this critical time in our nation's history.
So not only did the police departments go along with ICE and help them out, ICE decided to steal away the police officers from these local communities
and
try to recruit them with $50,000 bonuses.
Florida County Sheriff's Office said we have partnered with ICE like no other state.
to help ICE do its job.
ICE actively trying to use our partnership to recruit our personnel is wrong.
And we have expressed our concern to
ICE leadership.
What is going
on?
Yes.
Again, no honor
among thieves at
all.
All right.
Now this is going to be the largest domestic police force.
Okay.
And I call and you know, let's just call it what it is, brown shirts, right?
Well, Ali Velshi did a.
great program over the weekend on this, and it is just fantastic.
I wanted to just kind of let you know that in the next half hour, we're gonna get to this.
Where he's talking about this ICE recruitment effort.
He's got a couple of professionals on to talk about the impact of this, what it really means.
Historians, people who know about authoritarianism and Nazi Germany, they'll be talking about it.
It's some great stuff, and I think you'll like the information.
in the clips that I brought in for that.
So I want to keep you posted on that.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know, they, in the budget and the big, beautiful bill, how many millions or billions of dollars did they devote to ice?
I mean, that's, I mean, it's huge.
That's
why it's so big.
Yes.
And they're just recruited nationwide.
It's a bit scary.
It is
frightening.
It's beyond.
It is
frightening as hell.
And if we have time, we'll get to Bill Gates.
butter.
Why is he making butter?
He's
competing with Wisconsin on butter.
But why?
Well, for sustainability.
That's
why.
Now, it's not like we can't make butter and he can't make butter.
It's just that he's trying to cut down on the pollution.
You know, cattle and milking and all the energy that goes into producing butter, they've got a different way of doing it.
So I don't know whether it's, you know, magical, you know, a magic wand, turning bricks into butter.
I don't know what it, I do know.
We'll play it.
Okay.
If we have, you're going to share
that
story
with us.
I think we, look, we've got two big things coming up here.
We've got the brown shirts, that story.
Yes, and then we've also got I hope we have time for this the RFK junior debacle Shooting at the CDC man.
That is this is his fault.
This is what happens when you create fear around every damn thing you can think of just a poke fun and own the libs That's all this is about okay, and boy the Republicans and the Megas heated yep
hated the COVID pandemic.
They thought it was something we planned, the Democrats
created.
We'll have all that coming up.
And also Amy Horak will join us from David J. Frank, our horticultural expert talking about what you should be doing with your lawn and garden after the floods here.
It's all coming up in our next half hour on WMDX, John Agordi from State Street in Madison, coming right
back.
Thank you very much, Mark.
Love, thank you very much.
Thank you very, very, very, very much.
Thank you very much, Mark.
Love, thank you very, very, very, very much.
Thank you very much for the daily news.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very, very, very, very much.
Thank you.
Thank you a lot.
Thank you.
Thank you very, very, very, very much.
For a finger snapping, wire tapping, chocolate soda, and Truman Capote, Napom Bomb, Vietnam.
Selective service makes me nervous.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very.
All right, mothers, brothers.
WMDX.
John and Gordy in the morning.
735, cloudy this morning.
We'll see sunshine later.
Highs in the low to mid 80s.
Gonna feel pretty humid once again.
And right now, 71 degrees.
Okay.
All right, let's get into the domestic police force at...
That Trump is putting together for us, and this is for our benefit.
Really?
So, you know, we're feeling better, safer.
Are we?
Well, when they finally put us in our camps, we will feel very safe being behind those wire gates.
In those cages?
Yes,
in
the cages we'll feel safe in those cages.
Finally,
finally
not having
to worry about anything in life anymore.
You know, just...
Are we gonna get food and will it be on the floor this time or you know, I don't know just like alligator
Elcatraz.
Oh my God.
Man, oh man, this is just out of control.
And I think they stopped construction on an alligator.
Elcatraz, right?
Yeah, because of
environmental reasons.
Endangered species.
They just
can't build something in the middle of the swamps in place without worrying about endangering some species, including human species.
Okay, Aline Velsche was on this weekend.
He had a great program, and I finally found it.
I'll have Ali basically kind of explain himself here in this first cut.
This is
the landing page on the joinice.gov website featuring an image of Uncle Sam with the headline America Needs You.
It eerily reads underneath, quote, America has been invaded by criminals and predators.
We need you to get them out.
According to 404 Media, DHS is also looking to run ads on streaming services like HBO Max and Hulu.
And Uncle Sam was actually one of the milder ads.
Take a look at this ad, which reads, serve your country, defend your culture.
No undergraduate degree required.
How totally fun.
The immigration agency is lowering the bar when it comes to other hiring requirements, too.
This week, the Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem announced that the agency would be eliminating the age cap for new hires, allowing people older than 40 and as young as 18 to join the ranks of ICE.
The DHS website tells that prospective agents may be entitled to signing bonuses of up to $50,000, the possibility of up to $60,000 in student loan repayment and a 25% premium pay.
ICE used to require employees to have an
graduate degree.
Not anymore.
You don't really need any experience in law enforcement either.
Apparently, you don't even need a uniform because so many of the arrests that we're witnessing are being carried out by masked plain clothes officers.
That's right.
COVID's on the rise, so maybe they're onto something.
Although, as I recall from a few years ago, the Trump administration was against the wearing of masks, but whatever.
Almost like he's building an army of sycophants.
Trump's one big, beautiful bill sets aside nearly 170
billion dollars for immigration enforcement and border security effort.
Ice is rapidly becoming the nation's largest domestic police force.
Its size and power double that of the FBI.
It seems like the Trump administration is building up ice to be an alternative force that's bigger, more politically loyal, unencumbered by standards and largely shielded from democratic accountability.
That pretty much sums it up right there.
Can I hear him say 14 years old?
Yeah, 14.
Well,
I don't know if it's 14 years old.
I thought it might have been 18, but 14 is also, you know, you can go to work if you're 14 years old in some states.
So anyway, that's his summary and introduction into this large domestic police force that Trump is putting together.
So we had a couple of guests in, Professor Jason Stanley, an expert on authoritarianism, and also author Radley Velko on fascism.
He's written about that as well.
First we're going to hear from Jason Stanley and then we'll hear from Radley Velko in regards to authoritarianism and then of course fascism.
Let's listen.
All right, to discuss the rapidly expanding ice force in America, I'm joined by Jason Stanley, a professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto and an expert in authoritarianism, propaganda, free speech, and democracy.
I'm also joined by Radley Balco.
He's an award-winning investigative journalist who's writing focuses on criminal justice, the drug war, and civil liberties.
He's the author of several books, including Rise of the Warrior Cop, The Militarization of America's Police Forces.
Welcome to both of you.
What's
had all this up, right?
I mean, you've got DHS that's putting out these social media posts that are
studied with white supremacist themes and art that's been explicitly sort of used by white supremacists over the years.
You have this appeal to not, you know, defending your border or or apprehending criminals, but defending your culture specifically.
And then you've got an administration that a president who called immigrants, said immigrants poisoned the blood of the country.
You've got Stephen Miller, a guy who has white supremacist ties.
So you add all that together.
And then you're recruiting people who are looking at these videos of ICE agents, roughing people up, arresting grandmothers, apprehending children, apprehending US citizens in some cases.
You're looking for people who'd look at all that and take it all in and say, that's
what I
wanted.
Yeah, that's exactly how I want to make my living.
You know, and I would argue that almost all of those things should be disqualifying for anyone who wants to go into law enforcement.
Yeah, my grandmother in her memoir of 1930s Berlin speaks of leaning into the normal German police to protect herself and others from the Gestapo.
Ice is looking more and more like an American Gestapo.
Those of us who study fascism, those of us who study history, look for that moment when the sort of loyalist, quasi-violent
informal militia are going to be brought into the government.
But this is very explicit.
This is if you buy into this ideology, we don't need to under it.
We're going to pay you an enormous amount of money to be essentially the goon squad for the president.
And let's be clear.
We know also the moral injury here is real.
Like if you spend years of your life
Arresting little kids, dragging mothers away from their families, dragging hardworking fathers away from their families.
That's moral injury.
So you need a huge ideological cover for that.
And that's what we see with this kind of vicious humor of these ads, this cover for people.
That's right.
Pretty shocking stuff.
And, you know, I don't know why the CJs and my mega friend Milwaukee don't see all of this.
I don't know why they think they're safe from all of this.
You know, in these ice raids, we have seen innocent people swept up by the ice age agents.
So, you know, it's just, it's, they're not free.
They're not free from all of this and being taken away as well and maybe not a supporter as well.
Remember we had a clip from somebody who has written a lot about what happened in Germany and what happens is they turn on the people that support them.
Those are one of the first groups that they turn against or the people that have supported them and put them in power.
So again, that's to put
them all on
notice the rest
of the supporters like a total line.
Yeah, total line having
you too.
Yep.
Now I just want to play one more cut from them Stanley and Valco on all of this and they kind of bottom line it for us.
So let's listen to this.
I mean, this is what happens, though.
You get a force like this, particularly one that's going to be as devoted and loyal to Trump as he hopes.
It's a personal army.
I mean, this is what Trump wants to do.
I mean, you know, there were also plans announced last week outlining how the administration plans to send the actual active duty military into cities across the country.
And for most of my career, we have debated the extent to which domestic police should be militarized and the extent to which that's necessary and how we protect constitutional rights.
We are so far beyond that debate at this point.
I mean, we are explicitly assembling a paramilitary force for Trump.
He has explicitly taken over the military.
He's eliminated the JAG officers and the leaders of the Pentagon who know this history of fascism and authoritarianism and how important it is to keep the military out of civilian policing.
Those people are all gone.
The debate that we've been having for most of my career is gone.
We are now firmly into
Break the glass territory here.
We can only do so much of pointing out how much the pretexts are all completely fake lies, right?
You know, it's obvious Donald Trump seeks to transform the United States into his personalist autocratic fiefdom.
It's moving incredibly fast and and you know
I'm actually concerned about these new ICE agents and their the the moral injury point.
What they're doing is going to affect them for their whole lives.
It's it's brutal work.
You see the same structure that that's being presented to them.
You're doing this to prevent an invasion.
So all of the horrors that you're
inflicting on others are justifiable.
But that kind of thing only lasts in someone's mind for that long.
And the image of tearing someone's kids away, that lasts for much longer.
Jason Stanley is a professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto and is the author of the book Erasing History, How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future.
Bradley Balco is an award-winning investigative journalist.
He's the author of the book Rise of the Warrior Cop, the militarization of America's police forces.
There you go.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, we're there.
As we were talking about on
Friday, we're there.
How about this?
I found a few other things here.
Speaking of Gestapo and brown shirts, there was this headline.
Ice agents in Colorado go door to door demanding IDs and asking people to turn in their neighbors.
That's the
headline in the newspaper there.
Anyway, how about this?
Homeland Security does another Nazi dog whistle.
They're branking about the Speedway Slammer.
That's another lockup facility.
Speedway
Slammer.
Oh, this is in Indianapolis, isn't it?
Yeah.
That's where they want to build another one.
That's right.
They want to build another one there.
And the thing is, it's a visual thing.
There are two S's, the SS.
Oh,
boy.
Speedway Slammer.
Clever.
Yeah, with the image of a concentration camp next to the Speedway racetrack.
Now, by the
way, I heard a story about this that said the Indianapolis Speedway people are very upset about them using the name Speedway
because
they've got that copyrighted and they're
They put out a letter saying they're objecting to all of this using the word speedway.
Well, it doesn't matter to a dictator.
No, it
doesn't.
They don't.
Dictators don't care
about that.
Yeah, that's.
Yeah.
And this is the contradiction because Homeland Security has now declared white supremacist terrorists.
So I.
You know, I'm baffled.
I'm confused.
I'm bumping into walls now.
I have no idea what I'm going to do and who I'm going to point to when I see a white supremacist someplace.
The Oklahoman reports the Aryan Freedom Network and other neo-Nazi groups are saying Trump awakened a lot of people to the issues we've been raising for years.
He's the best thing that's happened to us.
Really?
Who said
that?
According to the Aryan Freedom Network.
work well that's uh
good to have their endorsement i guess well that's what i was thinking i
mean at least you're getting support from someplace
Take
that for what it's worth.
Somebody pinch me.
It looks like we don't have time for RFK Jr.'
's responsible fear mongering that ended up at the CDC and the shooting there.
We're gonna
have to get into
that.
Plus Bill Gates' butter.
Oh man, we'll get to that.
I know, you were waiting for that.
I wanted to know what that was about, yeah.
Okay.
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Okay, Amy Horak has joined us.
Good morning, Amy.
Good morning guys, how are you doing?
Good,
good.
DJ Frank and company.
And boy, we had all this rain over the weekend.
And how, what do you think is going to be the big problems here for when you get a big downpour?
And, you know, we're thinking about the people in Milwaukee too, tons of flooding.
So
sad, everything that's been on the news.
I mean, biggest things now is obviously besides your yard, like making sure your house isn't flooding, make sure your sub pump is working properly.
You probably found out this weekend of whether it does or not.
When it comes into regards of your home, I mean, checking any trees in the property, I mean, those storms were pretty wild.
So making sure there's no dead branches hanging in there.
You don't want a widowmaker just hanging up in the tree.
Definitely don't want one of those.
And then if you have really low spots in the yard, stay out of it.
You don't need to clog your mower or get stuck or just destroy your lawn or anything just because you want to try to cut that grass.
Just leave it alone.
Grass will be there when it's finally dried out enough to actually go cut it, so.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we were also talking last year about dividing plants up.
You know, we had such an incredible growing season.
I mean, I'm
afraid to look at my garden.
It's monstrous.
Yeah, usually I'm used to August being kind of like the armpit of summer where it's just so hot and dry and miserable.
And, you know, it stopped for about a week.
And then that rain said, hello, I'm back.
So.
Um, dividing your plants, I mean, now that the ground is very wet and soft, it'll probably be a lot easier to dig them out, but, um, perennials, so like irises, hostas, anything that remains in the garden comes back every year, so daylilies too.
Um, dividing them, it might feel kind of mean, just take like a big shovel, go like in the center of the plant, chop it in half.
Um, and you can...
Literally split and divide it and now you have two plants and if you want you can take that additional one that you've just created Bo put it in a new spot in the garden.
I've seen people put piles of plants corner of their property with a free plant sign Go go around town see if somebody's got some free cool plants.
You can transfer into your garden I
got these thistle weeds.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
Oh my god
these things grow so fast I can't believe it and they're out of control right now I mean I don't know what to do with them but you know chop them and
get rid of them but string trim them down grab them you know get some nice gloves pull them out by hand or if you are about spraying on your own property you can definitely hit them with some type of herbicide treatment um but yeah thisles I mean this has just been a prime year for weeds it's been hot it's been
Humid, it's been rainy, it's been perfect conditions for everything to just thrive whether you want it in the garden or not.
I think my wife went nuts.
We have a bottle that kills trees.
If you clip a tree or...
bush or something like that.
You put this thing or this liquid onto the stump.
Oh, a stump killer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it just, it's incredibly
effective.
I would highly recommend that if you have, um, what I like to call weed trees on your property.
So like mulberry trees, I mean, the fruit's delicious, but they spread like wildfire.
So if you find one, cut it down and sit it with that stump killer and it won't keep sprouting back new shoots on it.
Well, she put it on a thistle and boy did that go away.
Oh
yeah.
It'll get rid of them for
sure.
Now, what about, is this the time of year to be deadheading flowers?
Is that the deal?
Yeah, tell me about that.
So deadheading, you know, not just the Grateful Dead and Jerry Garcia, but.
Well, he's really dead.
Yeah, that's for sure.
RIP and Jerry, but you know, deadheading flowers, whenever those flowers are fully spent and starting to crisp up and die, they look kind of gross anyways, but it's also a place for disease to be harbored and like things to start rotting and getting gross.
So just going up with some pruners and just snipping off the dead flower heads and it can sometimes help promote new flowers.
developing on the plants as well.
So you might get a second bloom if you're lucky.
Okay.
All right.
Now I have, I have raspberry bushes, but you know, we clear them out, we kind of cut them down to the ground almost and they're back again and they're
just
very tall, but nothing, no fruit.
We're the heck are the raspberries, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, I've kind of seen some raspberry bushes around town like in like local parks too.
They just haven't fruited out yet.
So I don't know if maybe just cutting them back every year kind of stunts that fruit production on them or I mean, this winter too, it was super
Delayed with all the plants some some different like shrubs didn't even start putting on new growth until about like end of June So maybe they're just super delayed.
Yeah, that could be it.
Mm-hmm.
Well Amy we're out of time
this
time around Yeah from David J. Frank and if people want to find out more they can go to your website,
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Davidjfrank.com or you can give us a call if you want to to five to six to two five five four eight eight eight That'll get you to headquarters in Germantown.
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All
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And we will find out more about Bill Gates.
making butter.
Yes.
I want
to figure that out.
Save that story till tomorrow.
He's got that's such a huge story.
He's going to take over the butter industry with his new process.
Well, that's that's what it looks like today.
You know, we have something to worry about.
This is the butter state.
I'm nervous about it.
Okay, Stephanie Miller is next.
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Hit the bricks.
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