AI Slip-Ups and Pot Shops (Hour 1)

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AI Slip-Ups and Pot Shops (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Fri Aug 8, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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We're truly

sorry.

Good morning.

Yeah.

Good morning to you.

Happy Friday.

It's been a buzzsaw weekend, actually.

Weekend?

Our week, rather.

Yeah.

It's an amazing thing to do 80 shows in one week.

I lost track.

It wasn't quite that many, but it seemed like it.

It

seemed like it.

It seemed like

it.

I mean, I'll keep you updated on the light situation in Madison.

They have improved the stoplights a little bit.

The timing is much better now.

Oh,

good.

I feel good.

I feel good about the lights.

I got home.

I got here pretty early.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's the first time it worked forever.

The

lights all worked out.

They all worked out.

Yeah.

You know, you got to worry most about...

people who own sedans, uh, those little cars and four, four doors.

Yeah,

we remember what

I really, uh, I, they're the new Prius for me.

Uh, they, they're the slowest, uh, drivers in the world.

They have the slowest reaction times of anybody at a light.

Please you guys really just get

with it.

Just

help us get out of the way.

And I'm just talking about, I have my Prius this week.

This is not.

the space car.

Right.

Okay.

So.

Space car is under reconstruction.

It is under reconstruction.

Thank you for reminding everyone.

The 12 volt battery went in a giant car that has a huge battery in it.

It's like, you know, getting this fantastic battery operated electric car and then finding out the two A cells.

Our dad just like, do

I need

those?

Isn't that for the remote control?

Oh my god, I don't know.

I don't know anymore.

You know, and the thing, I do have a complaint about the car and that

is that

my Prius has a key

fob.

And that fob is a walk up to the car if it's locked.

It opens a car.

It unlocks it.

And I can't believe that this high-tech machine that I have now, this space car that I own, doesn't have that same feature.

It

doesn't.

I actually

have to take it out of my pocket.

I have to hit the button in order to unlock the door.

I think, what is this?

What a machine.

Oh,

there

you go.

Wow.

Thank you.

Wow.

Yeah, I know.

Oh, whine and complain about just about anything.

I'll find something.

But it's all going to work out fine, I'm sure.

Once it gets out of the shop, it'll be perfect.

Yeah, that's right.

Well, yeah, it'll be perfect.

Again, when it says maintenance, like most cars do, when it's time for changing the oil or something, instead of doing all that stuff, because it doesn't have any of that stuff.

Doesn't need oil or grease or anything else.

Yeah, it it needs a software update That that's the maintenance that I have to go in to get at the dealership the plug-in the USB Why don't they just give me the website for the update?

Well, right you would think they would

provide that to you

Well, yeah, it'd be hard to get the car in the house so I could connect

it to a USB so what they just they just put a USB into the car

and just

That's it.

Well, I would assume that's just about it.

Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, it's it's a software update.

I have it's a tech package.

It's called the wind, you know, it's the Kia wind fly like the wind.

The wind has died down temporarily.

I'm sure it's all

gonna work

out

just

fine.

Well, someday I'll get it back.

I hope.

You don't know

why.

I have not heard any word about what happened, you know, what they're doing.

They haven't given you an estimate.

They've even

looked at it yet.

No kidding.

I'm sure that it's probably covered under warranty because there is a recall and that is the reason why the 12 volt battery was not being recharged at the same time.

Well, keep us updated every day.

This is the rundown.

You

know,

this is dumb, isn't

it?

No, it's fine.

I'm not gonna mention.

It's

fascinating.

You're such a proponent of EVs and everything.

It's my

Curb Your Enthusiasm moment.

I can't get over how these things are happening to me.

OK.

So 11 minutes past the hour?

It is.

Friday in downtown State Street is looking just fine.

It's beautiful out there.

Sunset tonight.

What time?

8 10.

8 10.

OK, thank you.

How's the dew point doing?

By the way.

Humidity factor and it feels muggy out there

sunrise is at 5 56 just

to let

everybody know already happened.

Okay.

Okay.

It already happened

I know

but I'm just keeping people updated on this because it's going to change.

It's gonna change How's the moon is the moon waxing or

waning?

I don't have a moon thing on here, but I do know the humidity is 84% and the dew point is really high 60

eight degrees.

Oh,

that's why it feels so muggy

out there.

Okay.

Well, we'll get through it.

It's going to be really hot today at high close to 90 and right now 73 degrees.

They

wet the window, by the way.

Yeah.

Also indicates that the smoke is out of our area.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's gone.

It's going to be a little breezier today too.

So that'll keep the smoke out of here.

Well, that's nice.

Need a nice breath.

Boy, that Vornado in here really has.

Got a fan in the studio here.

Why don't studios have like ceiling fans?

They're real quiet.

They do need it.

And it keeps the air circulated somehow.

We should bring that

up at the next meeting.

See where that goes.

Make a note of that, Doc.

Running it down now.

Much less a fan.

A little bit later on this hour, we're going to talk to Judy Davidoff.

New Ismus is out and some great articles in there and some things happening around Madison.

And we'll talk to Judy about that.

Ismus caught the Wisconsin State Journal with big error, right?

Yeah, she'll tell us more about that.

And let's see, Rocker will be here.

He was off last week and he's back today.

He took last week off following Atwood Fest.

Yeah, he had a busy weekend last weekend.

Fantastic time.

People have to go to At Wood Fest.

It's

great.

Food,

everything.

Fun times.

Yeah.

And you guys introduce, you know, you guys introduce.

Well,

yeah, I mean, that's one of the reasons

people should go is to see us

introduce a band

and

throw t-shirts out into the crowd.

That's why people should go,

Janet.

Yeah, to see our two

minutes on

stage.

See two radio personalities that you're not supposed to see

just here.

Right.

Oh, well, is it time for what's happening now?

What's worse?

Which would you rather do things with?

Can we

add a little more?

First off, it is a waxing gibbous, by the way.

Oh, the moon?

The moon is a

waxing gibbous

today.

Waxing gibbous.

Yep, and tomorrow... They were big at Woodstock.

They've opened up

their

hangers.

I

know.

I

thought, what a great name for a band.

Waxing gibbous.

Okay.

All right, yep.

Oh, thank you for that.

And then tomorrow's a full moon.

Okay, let's just get into this.

Oh, really?

Yep.

The

waxing gibbous is just before the full moon?

Yeah.

Waxing gibbous.

Oh, my God.

And then full moon

all is not.

I had no idea they were related.

Why?

All right, let's get into this.

More echo, please.

As much echo as you can provide.

Wait till you hear this.

Yeah?

Ready?

You can amplify

this.

All right, I gotta get off the... I gotta get off the moon dab here.

He cries every morning because of

this.

You know, I was in production for like 15 years, you know, producing commercials and adding effects.

That is the most extreme effect.

It just amazes me.

But I do love that.

Okay, thank you for that.

It's beautiful.

It's beautiful.

All right, first question.

Would you rather find a person or 1,000 cockroaches in your attic?

A random person.

It's a 50-50 shot.

They'll be, you know, midi-

Rude, nice?

Trying to... You mean, you're just a person wandering around up there?

Yep, yep.

In your attic.

Just randomly in your

attic.

Or...

Or 1,000 cockroaches.

Geez, I'll take the random

person up.

Maybe you can have a good conversation.

Yeah,

I tend to agree on that

one.

Yeah, I think I would too.

I would too.

That's a little too much.

I think that random person

is the one to put the mic stands in here.

Maybe we get him on the show.

Here we go.

Alright, second question.

Would you rather have super speed but only backwards?

Alright.

or be able to teleport, but it's a completely random place.

And you have no say where to go.

All right?

Super speed, but only backwards, or teleport to a completely random place.

Super speed backwards, because I probably wouldn't use it very much.

I wouldn't

use it all the time.

I wouldn't bother me

at all.

Yeah, I would be going backwards.

That's all I would do.

Do I get to teleport back?

I wouldn't mind teleporting if I knew it was gonna work, and I could get back.

What if you couldn't go back?

What if you couldn't go back?

Well, then I wouldn't do

it.

Wow, draw the line

there.

I want to be able to

get

back.

I think I would do the super speed though.

I would do the super speed.

You have an option there.

Yeah, it seems right.

I would always go backwards.

I'd be doing moonwalks day in day out.

Right, exactly.

Yeah, that's

all I got.

But if you can't decide where you're gonna go, it could be endless forever.

Just ending up places, you know.

I just, I read a story about some plants to build a 36 mile long space station that will leave Earth forever.

I can't remember how many people would be on 100 people, I think.

And they would leave earth on this 36 mile long spaceship and

never

return never return It's not like a great deal.

I don't know.

They don't know where they're going.

Yes, and it

It's inundated with windows, so you get to see the stars.

They all look the same, though.

Yeah, you get over that for a couple of weeks.

You're stuck there forever.

I know.

That doesn't seem right to me, but...

See, that's why I would do the super speed backwards, right?

Because I wouldn't be able to go back.

You wouldn't be a good

candidate for that space point.

That would be... Really, is this a NASA

thing or is this...

No.

No, I just saw the story.

I read some of it.

That's a dumb idea.

It's as dumb as putting a nuclear reactor on the moon.

Is that something we really need?

Well, here's the thing.

You can't use batteries on the moon because the sunlight isn't always there.

In fact, it's gone for a long period of time.

The dark.

There and so they need something perpetual and that would be nuclear reactor But how do you build a nuclear reactor on the moon?

How do

you transport one up there?

Even if you manage to fly it up there How would you get it to land and then start it up

right dumb idea?

Yeah, you know they're either not that close to this.

I mean they do have a small reactor They've they've come up with one now They have to get it up there and then put it in and start it up and then have somebody connect

I don't know, according to it somehow.

And use it to charge the phone.

I don't know.

But that is what this administration is planning on doing.

And they're not going to be around that long to do something like this.

But thank you for the plans.

Keep

us posted on that.

Yeah.

Oh, I will.

All right.

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Excellent day, okay, you know so much there's so much news so much to talk about I know I just overwhelming

every

day I had hurts every time I think about looking into all the Misadventures of this administration.

Yeah, it just it's

one thing

after

the next you have a heavy weight on your shoulders John Peterson, you know you have to bring all this horrible news to us every day

Try to figure out how we can you know deal with it.

How

to swallow this Yeah, you know, I feel like that that statue, you know, the strongman with the globe on his back.

He's holding

Atlas.

That's it.

That's you.

I'm all hunched

over.

About to fall over.

Is

it

Atlas, the guy who

Got sand kicked in his face, and he worked out and he became a muscle man that started beating up all the other strongmen

on the

beach.

Charles Atlas.

Charles

Atlas.

Wasn't that on the back of the comics books?

Yeah, it

was always on the back of the comics.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

You know, even then, and I collected comics, I didn't believe any of that stuff.

You didn't.

No, and you know, at the time, there weren't a lot of people that were in that kind of shape like today.

Guys didn't have six packs back then.

No, they

didn't.

I think they were proud just to have a kind of a smooth stomach.

Yes.

Ah, those were the days.

Yeah, those

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have a smooth stomach and not have to worry about, you know, rippled six packs.

You know, because one of my favorite movies of all time was Gidget, one of the very first surf movies ever.

Terrific.

Cliff Robertson was in it.

And...

James Darren was

saying

the theme song for Gidget.

It's a great song.

It was

James Darren later in the time tunnel,

right?

He was in the time tunnel, yeah.

Stuck in that time tunnel for years.

Well, yeah, he went

to college after Gidget and became a scientist and sadly got lost in the time tunnel.

Oh, yeah.

They tried to get him back, but that didn't work.

No, he passed away recently, by the way, yeah.

But yeah, it was a great movie and great times, innocent times back then.

And then it became a

TV show.

Yes, it did.

It was Sally Field.

Sally Field, yeah.

But I still have a

crush on Sally Field.

Well, then she became the flying nun.

Remember that show?

That's just crazy.

You talk about a flying nun.

The flying nun.

I'm going to look this up.

Oh, yeah.

No, don't even look that way.

No, look at the pictures

of these nuns had these

head pieces.

Yeah.

And since Sally Field was small and she could fly.

Because of the headpiece,

under none

outfit.

It may have been the reason why they got rid of those hats.

Showed it in the last two long, a couple of years.

It was terrible.

It really was.

We're treating her as a nun.

Yikes.

Okay.

Not good for a heartthrob.

Mmm.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Wow.

Okay.

Take a breath.

Take a pause.

What do we got coming up here?

We've got Judy David off in 20 minutes.

We got

Mark

on the line.

Well, not

on the line, but he texted us.

He said, Pete Hexeth now wants to honor the heroic traitors of the Confederacy.

That's

true.

Is that right?

I haven't heard

that.

They're re-erecting a lot of these statues that they took down.

Well, and renaming the forts.

Yeah, and renaming the forts

and getting rid of minority ship names.

Yeah, yeah, it's just it's all pretty obvious What they're doing

yeah,

yeah, in fact now they want to find out what colleges What what kind of people are applying to those colleges they want to know the race of the people going to colleges signing up to go to college Mm-hmm.

I thought they didn't look at race.

I thought they didn't care about color.

You're right 629 when we come back will

I'll open the door to idiocracy here.

I'm John and Gordy in the morning.

WMDX Madison, Wisconsin.

Good

morning.

She goes Hawaiian all the way, man.

All the way.

She's going all the way.

All

right,

that's the Skidget.

Yeah, Skidget.

WFDX.

That makes you feel summery, doesn't it?

Yeah.

Well, it's summer like weather today.

Yeah.

Kind, close to 90.

It's going to feel hot and humid later this afternoon.

Right now, it's 74 degrees.

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Yeah, it'd be great if we did let them know.

Because it would be really bad if we didn't let her know.

Yeah, if we kicked your nape and

we didn't tell you.

Wouldn't be much of a contest then.

Whatever.

No.

No.

It'd

be kind of a waste of time for everybody.

A

lot of sad faces around.

We'd still have the tickets.

Right.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, anyway.

I don't know where I'm going with it.

Okay.

Uh, let's go.

It's time for Idiocracy.

Yeah,

let's hit it.

Let's

go.

Okay.

As

the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.

until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

Kathryn Lake

2016.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this.

We can duck

and cover.

There's a fall of shelter right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Dumb all the time and that's what we do on this program.

We feature the dumbest things that are going on in the administration this time around.

There's

plenty to choose from.

It's

just endless.

It's an endless fire hose of dumbness.

Well, you know, we talked a little bit about DEI and not seeing color, you know.

Yeah.

Well,

they know what's what's new in that department.

It doesn't.

It's not working for them.

It really is not working for them.

Trump says Triple H and the rest of his sports commission.

I don't know what Triple H is.

He was a wrestler.

Will

be

working on college football in terms of.

what happens.

What?

I know.

Why do they want to get into this?

This whole thing is a mess.

It really is.

What they're doing is they're taking a look at college football and they don't like the fact that all the money and all the attention is going to men's football.

All right?

So let's play.

This is cut 36.

Let's listen.

It's a mess.

What happened?

It's what they're doing with college football and the fans are upset about it.

And players are being taken from team after team.

Oh, that's awful.

Being traded around like playing cards.

Very, very bad for women.

Very bad what's happening.

Because now all of a sudden there's no women that are able to get the money that they're talking about.

It seems to be going mostly to football, some basketball.

And women's sports are being totally decimated.

We know that with this.

It's all going into football and women are being left behind.

And lesser sports are being left behind.

And the Olympics is being decimated because that was like training for the Olympics.

And now we're not going to have that.

We banned men from competing in women's sports.

And last week, the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee announced that they will be complying with that orders.

It's nice to bring that up.

I don't know how that fit into what you were talking about it.

So let's get this straight.

He's worried about women's sports, right?

But

isn't that DEI, once you start focusing the attention on one group over another, that's DEI.

They can't seem to get this right.

They don't understand the DEI situation.

They use it as a weapon when they want to use it as a weapon, and then they whine and complain that women's sports just not getting enough attention.

We should focus on women's sports, but that's DEI, you dumbass.

You know, I have a feeling that you and I are going to be making it to alligator Alcatraz.

If they're allowed to continue to build alligator, I understand a, a judge has put a stop to it, a halt to it

for environmental reasons.

They're

taking a look at environmental reasons,

why

they shouldn't be building that complex down

there in the swamp.

Interesting.

Yeah.

We'll see if the Florida governor has something to do about that or feel, you know, say, let's cut through the red tape and build it anyway.

Yeah.

Well, you know

what?

They were told not to keep building it, but they kept building

it.

And the judge is

really upset about this.

Of course, they're not

listening to any of these judges.

So they're looking at the environmental impact of this, and it may affect a lizard or two.

But you know what, if it affects a lizard or two, shouldn't it be more important that it affects a human being who is staying there?

Yes.

Is that something we should also look at?

Because there's a lot of abuse going on down there already.

And then you're expanding it and building onto it.

And that's been stopped for environmental reasons, not humanity.

Forget the human cause, the human condition.

Yeah, we don't

worry about that.

But

anyway, DEI, women's sports.

They have their own form of DEI.

And if they want to use it to make a point, that's their thing.

But

they can't have it both ways.

Is this just another distraction?

Is this just another topic that Trump is jumping on with women's sports?

You know, if you think back on what you just heard, I think it was a hallucination.

Really?

I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

He was all over the map on this thing.

I don't know what the Olympics had to do with any of this.

I think that was just, that was a distraction to the distraction of worrying about women's sports and how the focus is now on men's football, which by the way, it's been like that

for at

least

forever.

Yeah, forever.

Well, and why is this WWE wrestler Triple H involved in any of this?

Is he just an advisor to all of this?

Yeah.

Okay, why?

So anyway, that's the sports commission.

And they're just worried sick over DEI, women's sports.

Okay.

All right, now let's get into Rick Scott.

This guy is something else.

This is a Voldemort.

This is the Voldemort of the Senate.

Rick Scott.

The fraudster he's a fraudster.

Hmm.

He whined about corruption in Congress this guy Well, we'll get to that in just a moment.

I gotta play this guy Rick Scott said this during the debate around the Pelosi act, you know, let's let yeah, let's actually name Senators in these acts

So it sticks, right?

Pelosi supposedly made some investments.

Insider training is the, trading rather, is the insinuation anyway.

But this is Rick Scott angry about being, you know, lumped in with all the other corruption that's going on in the Senate.

Let's listen.

How many people in the audience, how many of you don't want to make money?

Anybody want to be poor?

I don't, right?

So this idea that we're going to attack people because they make money is wrong.

is

absolutely wrong.

We should cherish all of our different backgrounds.

Every one of us has a different background.

I've got a business background, but what I was just accused of is making money and somehow I can't do, I can't be fair and do things the right way.

So I think it's disgusting what is going on here.

So, but you know, I agree with, you know,

I

completely agree with you.

We've got to stop.

people from trading stocks

but

this goes is way different this is an attack against the president attack against the vice president that's all that's what this is yeah so i think it's wrong

yeah it is wrong

okay

so you know he boy you know

You know, there's nothing wrong with this guy, right?

I mean he is Upstanding he is trustworthy.

He

seems

offended that

you know about the money.

Yeah, you know, you don't want me to make money.

Yeah, what's the matter with you?

Who doesn't want to make money?

You want to make money?

I want to make money.

Well, you know Rick Scott was making a ton of money when he was the CEO of a health care company and he ripped off the government

and he ripped it off so bad that when they finally convicted his healthcare company, the one he headed up, he was fined $1.7 billion dollars for fraud, one of the largest decisions ever, and he pled the fifth 75 times in his testimony.

So you gotta wonder why no one can trust.

Rick Scott anyway.

He's still living through this and he's trying to rehabilitate his image.

Ain't working.

Good

luck.

He's a victim.

He's getting smeared

because he never ever would ever be corrupt.

So let's listen to Scott Besant.

He's the Treasury Secretary.

I've never seen anybody so, so stiff in my entire life.

I get a kick out of him because you never know.

Is he going to smile?

Is

he

going to move?

He always has a smile.

Is he going to tilt his head one way or the other?

No.

No, he's never going to do that.

So anyway, Besson basically admitted something to Eugene Robinson who was interviewing him and he admitted that the importer.

It pays for tariffs.

This is finally, we finally have something like this.

The truth.

Yes.

Now, they've been avoiding this for a long time, but here it is, listen up, 75, cut to 75.

But assuming it does come from Brazil, say, or it comes from any country with a tariff, who writes the cheque to the Treasury?

Well, the cheque is written to the person who receives it at the dock in the US.

The cheque is written by the person who receives it at the dock.

So the tariff is paid in this country by the importer, is that right?

But the Brazilian exporter could decide that they want to keep market share.

They could lower their price.

lower

their price.

So the full 50% of the tariffs say.

Right, they

can eat part of the cost.

They can eat part of the tariff

too.

Which is what we've seen.

Okay, okay, but the check is written by the importer right at the dock.

Yeah, and then the importer can pass it on or not.

Okay, yeah.

Sure.

And of course the importer is going to pass it

along.

Of course

they are.

They're going to eat it.

And the country selling the product is going to cut the price of their product.

That's not going to happen.

What are they trying to tell us?

Anybody believe any of this stuff?

Truly.

No.

Getting some...

Text in here.

Yeah, Rick Scott did take the fifth 75 times committing Medicare fraud.

Okay.

I mean this guy really took

advantage boy and Mark also said heaven forbid we house humans in humane safe conditions right first tropical storm in that part of Florida will flatten that whole whole talking about that's pretty much alligator Alcatraz.

That's pretty much what's gonna happen.

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Very

appropriate, very appropriate for the dictatorship that we're under right now.

WMDX, 92.7, it's John and Gordy in the morning broadcasting under the dictatorship of Donald Trump.

652, 90 degrees is our expected high today.

Lots of humidity out there.

It's going to feel pretty warm and muggy all day long.

Judy David off from the isthmus joins us this morning.

The new issue for this month just came out yesterday.

Good morning, Judy.

Good morning.

How are you guys?

Oh, we're doing fine.

Pretty good.

It's Friday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you have quite the quite the scoop, you know, as editor.

Which one?

I

know which one.

It's the Brayton lot in downtown Madison.

Sadly, a fairly new reporter used AI and didn't double check the information in that AI information that she pulled up about.

This this development redevelopment and there were a few errors in it.

I thought this is just fascinating I

did not know until

you guys revealed it here and you found out this is your discovery and

Yeah, good work.

I mean it.

Yeah, well the first I mean Jason Joyce did the first piece and he really you know right when he read the first story.

Yeah

He was like, wait, what is this coffee shop?

I don't know this coffee shop.

And, you know, just started trying to find out.

And I mean, the truth is we still don't know exactly what happened because the state journal has not detailed exactly what happened.

They refer to, you know, AI issue in the editor's note.

They pulled that original story, rewrote it.

But as I wrote in my column this month, the real question is not necessarily even that AI was used, but how did that story get through an editorial process to be published?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's absolutely true.

The thing is with AI and we talk about it a lot with busted pencils.

They're educators talking about education and using AI in education.

And one of the things they talk about is double checking all all the AI.

Points that are in

whatever

it finds you have to look every one of those issues up in order to Substantiate the truth because it could pull information from anywhere movies joke sites.

Yeah, well, we know of course there, you know lawyers with made-up briefs and I saw one thing a professor

who posted about a student coming to her complaining that it looked like the TA had used AI to grade a paper.

Wow.

No, that's even worse.

Right.

Right.

Or not.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it's all over.

It's an issue.

Well,

and one of the things that you point out in the article, Judy, is, you know, newsrooms are downsizing and

Even the local TV station, WKOW, you talk about Alan Media downsizing the meteorologists and how that, there

was some pushback

on that.

There was, there was very quick pushback and that at least then did not happen.

So, you know, WKOW, for instance, and all the other stations they own still have their local meteorologists, but that was a very real threat.

that everything would have been moved to Atlanta for Weather Channel.

That's outrageous.

Just getting rid of local weather.

I still can't wrap my head around that one, but you know, management does what

management does.

Cost savings.

Cost savings.

And not acknowledging the, you know, I think the worst that local journalists bring to the

table.

Yeah.

What about this article you again?

We're talking about the new isthmus just came out yesterday the pot or not pot Madison cannabis retailers navigate legal loopholes.

What's going on there?

Well To be honest, I still find it as somewhat confusing but you know the farm bill had this loophole for hemp I guess sourced

products that do create a high like you know traditional marijuana and that's why we're seeing a lot of these cannabis shops around town for you know things you can eat and smoke and

It kind of feels a little wild westy.

Well, I've lost count of how many pot shops there are.

I

know, they

run up everywhere.

I mean, they're all over the place now.

I mean, this is like the 60s

with taverns.

They're everywhere, and I don't understand half of the language that they're using on their windows.

I remember driving down Willie Street, and they had a couple of guys outside giving away free samples of...

pot.

Right.

Well, we did include a helpful glossary at the end.

I hope that will help.

And once again, we got to wrap up.

But beautiful cover art.

I don't know where you find these artists or do they find you and submit things?

This

is just a

gorgeous cover.

Yeah, I know a lot of it.

I mean, really, it is all Tommy Washbush who's our art director who just really tries hard to be out there.

There are a couple of kind of networking groups of illustrators and artists.

He's a graduate of Madison College that has an amazing graphic art department.

And so they have portfolio shows and he goes whenever they have it and talks to people and, you know, recruits.

So, he's really the point person for the covers.

Yeah, Megan Stout is the artist for

this one.

Yeah,

it's beautiful.

Gorgeous.

Judy, we're out of time, but thank you for joining us.

And again, we'll look for the isthmus anywhere you can find it.

It is out today or yesterday and all over Madison.

All right.

Thank you, Judy.

Thank you so much.

Yep, thank you.

All right.

Great stuff.

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