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running into the window.
I don't know what that was.
That scared me.
I thought that was the... I don't know, a garbage truck?
Sounded like a garbage truck, was it?
Yeah, it was kind of a loud noise.
I don't know.
Might want to
Where were we?
Okay, seven minutes past the hour, hot and humid today and yeah, 85 for a high at least.
Yeah.
Okay.
And coming up in about a half hour, we'll talk to attorney Jim Santel.
See what's on his mind.
Lots of legal issues, of course, always going on.
All
a
it was just a fascinating program, and I don't know if you had seen an article recently about how the city has cameras at every intersection and they're taking photos of everybody's car and license plates and stuff like that.
I guess in order to expedite, well, just make it better to recognize people's cars in case there's an incident where they need to track down something.
They have at least a database.
of license plates and cars.
So anyway, I thought, well, this is an intrusion.
This is really not something good.
And how about facial recognition?
Are
Anyway, I guess Jim Santel thought that this was a possible problem as well.
And his guest was an attorney having to do with traffic safety and laws like that.
He explained the whole thing and it was just fascinating stuff.
And I'm going to have Jim Santel tell us that story about that particular law about, you know, taking pictures of everybody's vehicles.
It's actually really a great idea.
I'm just completely sold on it.
And I didn't know the angle at which they would take.
Remember, laws are usually, you know, very punitive.
These are laws that are not so punitive and they're more or less.
a lesson in life.
You know very small penalties, but a lesson in life where you actually improve your driving skills only because you know that there's you know, it could be worse Okay, well,
Right.
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least
not
why.
the
You shouldn't see plus first six months of twenty four.
Biden deported for ten four hundred ten thousand.
And, uh, for six months twenty-five, Trump two thirty-nine.
Now what?
That's it.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Well, here's a little tepid on this information, I think, anyway.
It proves two things.
First, it's the actual problem of reporting that we're never getting from the major media on any of this stuff.
Biden's numbers don't lie about deporting in the last six months.
Again, the numbers are
this in the first part of 2024 for the first six months 410,000 immigrants deported and they had their rights by the way okay they weren't violated uh trump violated the rights but only had 239,000 so from 410,000 on biden
and Trump 239,000 with the military, with the Marines, with quotas, going after everybody, even citizens, even people with green cards, everybody who is here legally, he's thrown out.
And it's only 239,000 compared to 410,000 people with rights who did get their day in court with Biden.
Again, Biden 2024, the first six months of last year compared to the first six months of this year.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's quite the difference.
No Legally everybody had their rights their day in court right they got to process That's great stuff, you know, but again, I don't agree with any of these deportations I think what we need to do is has is have the immigration reform mm-hmm, and we've had a plan we
had a plan and
I mean, the thing here is, it was obvious he made the call, right?
He made the call to Mike Johnson and says, don't pass this thing.
It's going to be our big issue for the election.
Right.
Came right out and said it.
Right.
And yet the media has a hard time reminding everybody of this each and every time we talk about it.
And I don't know why we have a problem with this.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
What?
We
Well, I'm doing okay, but it occurs to me that cruelty is the entire point for the top administration, and maybe for all these magas that are supporting this nonsense, because wasn't it Jesse Waters that said he got all excited when he was seeing people, you know, rounded up?
You know, shipped off unmasked.
I mean, that reminds me of how excited people got, you know,
The people that took pleasure out of PNC and people during prior to World War II, people getting loaded up in cattle cars and sent off to the concentration camps to become death camps.
I mean, it is just... Do these people need Viagra anymore because they get all excited?
It probably provides them some kind of excitement to see people rounded up like this and being abused like this.
I mean, just perhaps I'm being unjust, but I'm getting pretty angry about this fact that
a lot of our ancestors came over under very similar circumstances but these people are coming over with with desperate economic conditions you know the people who came from scandinavia you're doing the first you know the first part of the uh... twentieth century i think a lot of them were escaping you know economic problems there that they are uh... were so very similar to what was happening right now and they weren't they weren't uh... looked upon like this and it is just
Beyond me that people we are not accepting these people these people are working hard.
They're taking that grabbing these people off their jobs for I
I know it
Yeah, it is just sad.
I mean, these people are coming here to work.
I mean, they're not living off, you know, they're taking people off the job sites.
And our food is rotting out in the field because these people aren't there to do it.
And it is just beyond me that people are supporting this nonsense of deporting them all, worshiping Donald Trump.
What how many convictions of felony convictions does he have?
indicated to be a sexual assaultor.
I mean the guy they admire
Comedy Central released a short preview for the episode that will air on Wednesday, August 6th, that includes a group of masked armed men in black cars marked with ice storming the streets.
The preview also shows that the hit Comedy Central series will continue to mock Trump with a shot of the president at a banquet with Satan.
When Mr. Mackie loses his job, he desperately tries to find a new way to make a living.
In the preview, the character is shown in the back of an ice raid truck.
The episode even drew condemnation from the White House, which issued a statement claiming, just like the creators of South Park, the left has no
authentic or original content, which is why their popularity continues to hit record lows.
This show hasn't been relevant for over 20 years and is hanging on by a thread with uninspired ideas and a desperate attempt for attention.
They had a
that they
So you could volunteer to be an ICE agent based on the South Park image of all things.
This is insanity.
So anyway, South Park reacted to it on X by saying, wait, so we are relevant.
Now we heard that they aren't relevant, but now they
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for
Appreciate those temperatures those dew points on the rise, but cleaner fresher air all across the state really finally,
Finally, yeah, so breathing nice highs today will reach the upper 80s I'm thinking about 88 degrees or so with the dew points probably at about 66 to 67 degrees So
it's
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I think they're possible after four o'clock, but more likely hitting Madison area probably around eight p.m.
to maybe midnight or so.
A few of them could linger in the morning, but I don't think it's gonna be by you guys.
I think it's gonna be further off to the east.
But heads up, it's possible.
And then tomorrow's still extremely hot, very humid, dew points into the 70s, temperatures hitting 90.
It's gonna be feeling like near 100 both tomorrow.
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You got even longer than most of the state.
I don't have to deal with that long.
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Hey, we got Dick on the phone here.
Let's
Dick.
We've got a
Well, a quick observation.
Um, we have a president who, uh, you know, his whole purpose in life is a grievance campaign and going after political
You have a vice president now who has a task force to deal with his personal problems.
And then time magazine comes along and puts, uh, Speaker Johnson on the cover and apparently they're saying,
and he's saying
It's all about him.
Yeah.
And who's done him wrong in the past?
I mean, he's he's definitely got a he's got a he's got he's got paranoid personality disorder and a serious case of it.
He thinks everybody's out to get him and he's out to get even with them with the power of the government.
These small little things he's dealing with is just outrageous.
He's micromanaging the entire U.S.
economy and global economy at that.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I mean, you know, we're under the power of a madman, right?
Dick, thank you for that
All right.
Yeah.
All right, let's get to RFK Jr.
He is trying to kill all seniors in this country.
You know, do away with them right away.
Yeah, he's canceling the $500 million in funding for mRNA vaccines.
And they helped us live.
They helped us live.
Yeah.
So, I mean, now he's saying that none of that stuff really worked.
It's going to impact 22 projects being led by a major pharmaceutical company, including Pfizer and Moderna for vaccines against the bird flu of all things too.
This puts the U.S.
in a more dangerous position, it says here, to respond to any potential future pandemic.
We're weakening our frontline defense against fast-moving pathogens, a huge strategic failure that will be measured in lives lost during
the time of crisis.
And that is from the Physicians Union.
So this is, uh, this is a big
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Yeah, not only to Greg Abbott and folks in Texas, but he says, you know, I'm looking around the map and Missouri looks like a good candidate, Indiana, all those sort of things.
And so, you know, it is entirely possible that the great story and who knows, well, many great stories and great, not in terms of wonderful, but compelling, yeah, of the next 15 months before the election may well be.
redistricting going on in the nation.
We did this aga during Wisconsin other pla again until the next c
talking about line drawing in states around the country, not only, not only Republican states, but also Democratic states.
You've got Kathy Hockel from New York who's saying maybe we should do that in New York.
You've got, obviously, J.B.
Pritzker just to the south of us here in Illinois and Gavin Newsom, perhaps most notoriously out there talking about that in California.
This can very easily spread.
Obviously, nobody, nobody behaving well now.
But we've got this situation where people are talking about fighting fire with fire, and it could well take over the country.
Legislatures, states around the country.
changing their lines.
And again, the timing of this probably could not be worse.
You change lines now and you redistrict.
Imagine doing that now in Wisconsin.
And
You've got new categories of candidates out there.
And voters are once again told you're no longer in this district or another.
And all this has got to be set long before November, of course, so people can file their papers, can campaign.
We are doing this once again in America and we'll see how this spreads, but it is a fascinating and frankly terrifying movement in the wrong
The other aspect of this that I found notable, my former boss, a fellow named Eric Holder, who used to be the attorney general, you were calling the Barack Obama administration, has spent all the time since his departure from office doing what?
Campaigning against gerrymandering, right?
Talking about how terrible it is.
Democrats and Republicans alike.
when Eric Holder, as he did a couple of days ago, comes out and says, you know what?
That entire initiative that I've been putting together and
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw an interview with the representative of Jasmine Crockett.
She was talking about the Democrats leaving Texas.
And the thing here is that she mentioned, and she's from Texas, that the Trump administration with their famous magic marker had redrawn the districts themselves.
and they sent it to the Republicans in Texas to do that kind of gerrymandering.
They already came up with the districts, and that is from the President of the United States calling the shots on redistricting in Texas, which is stunning, absolutely stunning.
Isn't it?
It is.
And, you know, there's a completely silly aspect of this.
The serious one, of course, is
This is, again, should be, we've got this thing in America called federalism, which is we've got a federal government and it kind of takes care of things on the federal side.
And then we have state governments, right?
And the notion is that the state governments and states do have states' rights and they take care of their own management.
Here you've got just the opposite.
You've got the White House, apparently, with lots of time in its hand.
And this is the silly thing, taking out its Sharpie.
Remember the president's use of that Sharpie to re-describe the path of a hurricane very publicly a few years ago?
Completely wrong.
We're doing it again this time with even more seriousness and saying, this is what you should do.
The Republicans in Texas saying, oh, OK, what is this?
Let's take a look at this.
Have a hearing.
And what have the Democrats stayed in Texas?
This would have gotten a vote, Monday, Tuesday of this week, and maybe Thursday in the Senate here.
This could be the new law in Texas.
Whenever this gets resolved, you've got Greg Abba threatening not only litigation, but also arrests and all kinds of things, ordering the vacation, meaning vacating those seats, declaring them empty.
This is a fight, and this has been generated by the White House.
You're a good point.
Well, you know, Abbott is forgetting, though, that it's in the Texas Constitution the ability to at least leave the state or not provide a quorum.
It's guaranteed in their Constitution.
right and they and they've done this twice before and nothing's happened this is all just smoke and mirrors you know arresting them and and taking out their seats it can't happen it's not allowable but they're at least getting some press on it and it's all a lie
And again, yesterday on Maggie's Doe, we spent a little time talking about the history.
It goes back into the 19th century, and there's some very notable events when members of the House and the Senate there ran away from Texas.
That's a big thing to do.
And they basically deprived the legislature of its quorum, which is once again going on now.
It had to do with, again, some equally crazy legislation and other things way back in, I think it was the late 1800s involving establishing
war powers for the governor.
We
don't
other
We're leaving because we want to do this.
There is a precedent.
There is basis for doing it.
And we're at it again.
In the meantime, what about education?
What about environment?
What about commerce?
What about all kinds of other things that the states can, in fact,
should be doing health care, all kinds of things.
Now we're playing these games now because we've got some political focus
Keeping focus is very difficult for this administration because they're all over the map.
We've got Pam Bondi, the AG going out there, going after Obama now for supposedly encouraging that investigation on Russia's involvement in Trump's election, which is just insane.
Obviously, it was his department, well, not even his department, you know, the AG and you had the FBI and you have everybody involved in this investigation.
A report came out and said, yes, they were involved.
Everything, I don't know.
I guess encouraging, you know, getting to the bottom of Russia and interfering in our elections was something that is now termed bad or illegal or unconstitutional and they're going after them criminally for this.
Trying to
figure out, wait, who is responsible when people talk about Barack Obama not responding sufficiently to 9-11?
Not quite good in terms of who is in the White House at the time, that sort of thing.
Here's another one of those.
And this was obviously in the wake of the 2000 election.
It was Donald Trump's Department of Justice under the Deputy Attorney General, who initiated this investigation a year later.
Again, Bob Mueller reports that, yeah, there wasn't conspiracy in a criminal sense, but there was certainly parallelism between the campaign in Russia.
And most important, the point you just made, which is easily eight, nine, 10 instances of my president engaging in other crimes called obstruction of justice.
and trying to stop this investigation.
An awful lot of people think he was successful in doing that by not permitting the disclosure of things that would have shown the very collusion to the conspiracy that Bob Mueller found was not there.
In the end, for what it's worth, as I often do, it's an equal opportunity view of what happened here.
The Democrats did not pursue that on impeachment.
He was never charged with any of that.
The statute has now run.
But again, it underscores that the report is still there.
And the report indicates clearly that Donald Trump in 2017, the first months of his presidency, engaged in crimes in office.
And the notion now that we turn that around and say, well, wait a minute, this is all about things that Barack Obama, maybe Hillary Clinton, maybe probably Jim Comey is marched in there somehow.
This is ridiculous.
It makes no sense, as you said in your prior segment.
Let's just call it a conspiracy.
It's called a hoax.
And the question is, what is the conspiracy?
What
is
get
Exactly, yeah.
Who knows, right?
Again, this is the latest just silliness related to this issue.
And again, we underscore the notion that this is tragic for many, many people, including the victims.
Yes.
including, frankly, the justice system.
There is a man who committed suicide in prison.
That is a tragedy.
You've got another person who is in prison for 20 years.
It's all tragic, all around.
Nothing good to come of this.
And how dare you?
How dare you, Mr. President, pursue this in some way that would suggest that you can get political gain out of it.
And the same with Pam Bondi and other people out there.
Well, we want to get to something you talked about yesterday on Maggie Dawn's show.
You had a guest on Fantastic Guest, and I want to get to one topic that you were talking about recently in the news about cameras and taking pictures of cars and license plates.
I want to get to that.
It was a fascinating discussion.
All right.
We'll
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We'll be filling in for Maggie Dawn this afternoon and we'll be giving our opinions about legal things.
It won't matter much.
And not lawyers.
And other things as well, but giving her legal opinion is nothing compared to Jim Santel, who always gives his legal opinion, which matters, which makes a
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All right, all right, Jim,
country
Today was the big day that all the tariffs took effect.
The big tariffs took effect.
And of course, there's a court case that took place recently, arguing that Trump does not have the power to raise tariffs or do anything that he's doing currently right now.
I got to ask you, what could possibly, I know it'll go to the Supreme Court.
But seriously, the rest of the world is going to be sitting there paying these tariffs when, in fact, it may be determined to be illegal for the president to do something like this.
What can happen at this
Again, I think your invocation, the word chaos, is of anything understated, right, dramatically?
And if you are any of these foreign leaders and you find yourself having to take a look at what the federal circuit, which is one of the appeals courts in the United States of America,
entertain and how they responded to this recent oral argument, all of them looking at the government's lawyers, yes, our lawyers, meaning your lawyers and the Department of Justice, all of them, all the judges saying, where is the authority for this?
And there's a statute that the president has invoked that has nothing to do with tariffs, and that's not the justification.
And it's highly likely, again, that this federal circuit is going to say, you've got no authority.
All of this, all of this is wrong.
And what do we do then, as you
Right.
And file your form with the Federal Circuit Clerk of Court and they'll reimburse you for any damages done.
It is silly to talk that way, but it's also dramatically serious.
And you'd like to think in the end, although again, we've all stopped predicting normalcy when it comes to our Supreme Court.
But on something this fundamental, it's in the Constitution, Article 1, as you have said.
It's
would
Well, you know just delaying it that long and it creates the chaos continue to flood the courts with more legal action and while you know we're discussing the fact that he doesn't have the power to do this the official government website deleted or
removed sections nine and ten of the Constitution, which deals with the power of the Congress doing these things instead of the president.
And they're gone.
And I guess the White House is saying, oh, this is just a glitch that we're having on the website that takes out section nine and ten of the Constitution.
And I love this legal scholar.
Lawrence Tribe wrote this literally erasing two key parts of the Constitution.
And
We got to pick them up right after the show.
We can
But he has made reckless driving a part of his focus.
And he identifies, obviously, the nature of the problem, which we have all seen in Milwaukee, beyond other cities in Wisconsin, identifies both technological and regulatory ways of addressing the issue.
The tech piece is cameras.
And again, you think, gee, another George Orwell
everybody looking at us and it's not that what it does is and it's been effective in those states that have done it.
It's not facial recognition.
We're not using any of this to to put you in prison for for four and five years.
What we are in fact doing is identifying your car so that we can ensure that the laws are enforced and we are safer out there on the streets.
We appreciate it.
You can always listen to Jim on Saturday.
Yeah.
on Amicus, a law review on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We'll talk to you again soon, Jim.
Thank you.
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Yep, so many things to get to.
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