Worms and Woke AI (Hour 1)

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Worms and Woke AI (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Fri Jul 25, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Hey, are they ready to go yet?

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This is a great day, isn't it?

It's beautiful outside.

Yeah, it's not bad.

This is fantastic so far.

We'll

take it.

You know, if

we could just keep the heat away.

If.

If.

If we could.

I don't know the weather forecast, so I'm assuming that we're going to have another hot, miserable day today with high dew points and high humidity.

Something that will keep us all indoors and comfortably sitting in air-conditioning all day long.

Actually temperatures are gonna be just about normal for this time of year.

Is that really gonna be all that bad?

You know, I rehearsed that and... You did.

And so I just wasted that.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, right now it's not looking bad

at all.

A

few early morning clouds and we might see a couple of spots of very light rain, you know.

Temporarily, but a high today about 83 degrees.

Wow, that's really fantastic.

Yeah,

I don't know the

dew point you might have the dew point on your Samsung WM DX watch

I

actually do get the dew point

listed on here because it's very important to me and for some reason you're obsessed They know that I like the dew point.

Yes, and the dew point will be yeah, or is yeah

69 degrees.

That's outrageous.

That's pretty high.

That is very uncomfortable.

So feel muggy.

Humidity at 90%.

Yeah.

That's pretty high.

Are you saying it's nice out there?

What's I saying?

I take it all back right now.

Okay.

Yeah, it's going to be a little

muggy and then the weekend is going to heat up.

I think mid 80s, mid to upper 80s tomorrow, and then in the 90s on Sunday.

You know, I always gave you the sunset time, right?

Yeah, I was wondering

why you haven't done that lately.

I don't want to shock anybody.

What?

This is really, you know, it's always around, you know, 835, something like that.

Yeah, what's it, what is it now?

Well, for some reason, the earth is tilted in the wrong direction.

I think Trump had something to do with that.

Of course.

But sunset is at...

826.

We have lost a lot of time.

The days are getting a little

shorter.

No, it means that things are getting darker.

Darkness

is descending on all of us.

Oh my God.

What are we going to do?

I

don't know.

Well, it's Friday and

that's

that's a good thing.

Looking forward to the weekend.

Atwood Fest, you know, is happening Saturday and Sunday and Rocker will be here later.

What's a pot as we spin on the whole thing, the disaster spin that I just gave it.

Yes.

Oh yeah.

Atwood Fest is fantastic.

What is going on here?

I'm getting a

call.

Catherine Lane.

How are

we doing?

Then

she knows we're on the air.

Maybe we're not on the air.

Does it

look like we are?

Yeah, I don't know why.

OK.

This is the second time this week.

Yeah.

Well, as far as we know, we're doing OK here.

So

we'll just continue.

Are we

on the app?

Checking.

Hang on a second.

Let's get to the couple other things that we're doing today.

We have free ticket Friday coming up.

Tickets to a brewery

game.

All right.

And as I mentioned before, Rocker will be in.

with the Max, with

the

Maxink preview.

Why don't you

check in with Pam Yankee?

Yeah, let's find out what she has to say there.

I just want to mention here the late breaking news of course is Tony Evers has announced he is not running for reelection and good news for everybody out there waiting for Scott Walker to come back.

He has posted a hat that would mean that he wants to be the next governor again.

No, no, no, I know we're all screaming.

But it's a possibility look there is no good possibility on the right right side of the aisle because we have We have Tom Tiffany who destroyed the environmental part of our Wisconsin Vacations now he wants to be governor and you know one last chop

And that'll do the state away.

So anyway, all of this is, all this is happening.

It's percolating.

And I just want to mention that this is the Goodbye Tony edition of the John and Gordy show.

Goodbye Tony.

Yeah,

really.

Yeah, he's calling it quits.

He is.

He's calling it quits.

Yeah.

So do we have anything?

We've dedicated a couple of songs for Tony and we'll be rotating them through the morning.

Let's listen to one of them right here.

Let's hear

it.

There you go, it's a little dedicated song for Tony Evers who is announcing his retirement from politics.

And yes, we are having some problems.

ICE has scooped us up and we are broadcasting supposedly from one of the detention centers.

They said that we would be on the radio.

I don't know.

They don't know.

They may have.

Yeah.

They have other plans.

Well, we'll just continue here.

So

what is

it?

We're online, but I don't

know.

We're

broadcasting from the stick.

Engineers are checking it out right now.

So we'll just continue as is.

How hard would it be to just pull us up on the app to find out whether we're on the internet?

Well, we're checking.

We're doing that right now.

On the internet air.

In the internet?

Yes.

The tubes.

Yeah.

Are we streaming through the tubes right now?

Why don't we do, would you rather, as long as we

Are going to just continue?

Let's

just see what's

happening.

Let's do

some Would You Rather.

Let's

take it easy

this

Friday.

Would you rather?

Let's do some Would You Rather.

Hit the

Would You Rather theme song that you worked so hard to produce.

Is this new?

No.

Just never heard the beginning of it before.

There

we

go.

There we go.

All right.

Alright.

So what's the question?

Must be getting

used to it, I can understand it.

That was more clear.

Yeah.

Alright, first question.

Would you rather be surrounded by people who brag all the time?

Yeah.

Or by people who complain all the time?

This one's tricky.

Complain all the time.

I would do complain.

Sure.

Yeah, I think I'm in agreement with that.

Yeah.

Well, we have no choice.

We really don't, yeah.

People I know are complaining all the time.

Mmm.

Yeah, that's the way it is.

All right.

I don't like braggers a lot, you know.

No, I know.

Those are the CJ's and my major friend in Milwaukee.

Okay.

All right.

Second question.

Would you rather fight two hundred third graders?

Or a bear with sharks for arms?

Wow.

A bear with sharks for arms.

Oh my god.

I think I'm playing.

That'd be horrible.

I'm fighting those third graders.

Yeah,

I'll take on the third graders.

Oh yeah, I've already taken the third graders on.

Yeah.

And now

they're Gen Zers.

I had two of them.

Yeah, I don't know.

A bear with sharks for arms would be kind of scary, I don't know.

That's, that elevates the shark a little bit in the danger zone.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, you know, you know, it's too bad that we didn't do the national day calendar today because

you

know,

we've eliminated that from We have we taken up because it's just useless, you know, we had

to each and every day is the same as last

year

If we had to do it the one that I would highlight.

Yes would be national talk in an elevator day So

if you have an elevator in your building get to

yourself just stay in it all day and start talking to yourself.

Yeah

why not that would be excellent it's also national

get gnarly day wouldn't that be great to just you know start a really really uncomfortable conversation in an elevator yeah uncomfortable

conversation day in an elevator i like it we should submit that to yeah the national day calendar if we were to do that now

and what was the other one that you thought was fantastic

i just closed it out and

well i have a short attention span so do you

so

What was it?

Let me check.

Hang on.

It

went

by very quickly for

me.

It did.

It did.

It was national.

Oh, there

it is.

Get gnarly.

Get gnarly day.

Yeah.

Last Friday in July.

No one uses it.

You know, get gnarly.

July has gone

by very, very

quickly.

It really has.

You know, we had these birthdays and they seem to last for weeks.

Yes, they did.

So.

We

got so much.

We got we got

we got so much to

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get to.

I don't know

where to begin.

I don't either.

But we do have free ticket Friday and that'll be coming along in a little while as soon as we get things straight in the way here.

And we'll talk to Savannah Tomay Olson.

Find out the news of this week.

Maybe some highlights for the weekend and Pam Yonkey coming up shortly.

Oh, yeah.

And

then Pam is going to be.

I think she's going traveling and going on vacation, so we'll find out a little bit more about what Pam's up to in just a few minutes.

Let's see.

I don't want

to bring everybody down, but you know, the thing that's happening to guys is just so bad right now that it's, you know, it's not like you're picking a side anymore, you know what you're...

what's frustrating you, you know, it's just killing you inside, watching this thing unfold.

And every time something does happen, Israel bombs something, it's, oh, well, it's an errant missile.

Every time it's an errant missile,

and it's always an

errant missile killing a lot of people, innocent people.

And I'm just tired, well, I was tired of it a long time ago, but I'm really, really, extremely tired of it right now.

Well, and they continue to have

a lot of problems bringing in food and it's just, it's a humanitarian crisis.

There

shouldn't be a problem bringing in

food to Gaza.

No, no.

That whole conflict is over and I don't know for some reason Israel thinks that that conflict is still running

hot.

Well, Israel and the U.S.

both pulled out of the ceasefire talks that were taking place

yesterday, officially, they pulled out of those.

Well, of course, at this point, they're just shooting at people, killing them, children, they're starving children and people in Gaza.

That's what's going on and there's no excuse for it, none whatsoever.

And you can't make up an excuse about this, you can't.

No.

All there's, all there, you know, there's still Hamas in there, you know, you gotta look out for that.

Yeah, just kill everybody because then you can eliminate Hamas.

Go for it,

huh?

That doesn't make any sense.

This is just gotta end.

Well, and this is part of the problem.

We get caught up in the Epstein files, and that's what it's all about.

And that's just the headlines every day, every night.

It seems like that's just continuing to gain momentum.

It's not dying down at all.

But all the other headlines around

the

rest of the world slide to the back of the line.

Well, one thing, if Trump were president, this would not be a wait.

He is present.

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This is happening.

Well,

I guess that wasn't true after all.

Right.

I'm surprised.

Yes.

All right.

Are we on the air?

Are we on the air?

We are not.

We're going to still continue.

We're still going to continue like we are.

And that means they're

going to get us back on any second.

Any second.

So it's not on the app.

I don't know.

It is not on the app.

No.

We're going to still continue.

All right.

We will.

Soldier on here.

Let's see, 19 minutes past the hour and again a warm one today, but not as hot as it's gonna get over the weekend.

Oh, we'll keep a track of that.

Well the big news I think is that Lay's potato chips have been forced to change their recipe after 30 years.

Are you kidding me?

Yeah, why I'm not kidding.

It's it's a problem with them.

Well, there's a There's a FDA ban on some of the ingredients of lace potato chips

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and

now they have to change I don't know what they were making lace potato chips in

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Okay,

well, they're gonna make it in something else.

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Maybe

they won't even use potatoes anymore I don't know.

You never know.

Okay, Junior me think they're

poisonous nine

19 past the hour.

When we come back, we'll chat with

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Pam Yonkey on John and Gordy in the morning.

is lit up by a million shining stars.

I

am

traveling

up

these to the land of the under 21 bars.

Going to Cheese Land.

I'm going

to Cheese Land.

Cheese Land.

The Dales and Door County.

I'm going to Cheese Land.

All right.

WMDX John and Gordy in the morning.

We're back on the air.

I think

623 highs today in the low to mid 80s and that's going to feel muggy through the day.

Yeah, hotter over the weekend.

And let's check in with Pam Yonkey.

Yes, fabulous farm babe.

Good morning, Pam.

How are you?

Pam Jahnke

Morning, guys.

Morning, guys.

Yeah, it's not too bad out there right now.

Yeah.

Pam Jahnke

But yeah, I think we're going to have a second skin by the time we get to lunchtime.

Second skin.

Ain't that the truth?

You know, everybody's reacting now to Tony Evers not running for reelection, retiring.

And, you know, one thing that both sides were having common were supporting farmers in the state and agriculture.

What's a reaction already?

Pam Jahnke

Yeah, you know, yeah, it's been very positive.

I mean, the one thing I think people sometimes overlook, especially when it's in the heat of battle, like for the state budget, is that agriculture is really one of the foundations in Wisconsin where it's bipartisan.

Both parties come together.

The numbers may deviate a little bit as far as overall funding, but the consensus

Both Republicans and Democrats is that agriculture in Wisconsin needs our support.

And Governor Evers really was very proud to carry that banner forward after Scott Walker exited and so forth.

And it's one of the deals where all of agriculture yesterday, no matter the commodity group or farm organization, basically thanking for

thanking Governor Evers for his consideration of Wisconsin farmers, conservation, water quality, you know, all the things that make Wisconsin what it is.

And like I said, regardless of political lines or affiliations, agriculture seems to be a gathering force down at the Capitol.

So like I said, wishing him and Kathy nothing but the best as they move into the next phase of their life.

And now, you know, how it goes, everybody's going to start guessing who's going to throw their head in next.

But I just wanted

to make sure that Governor Evers knows that there's a lot of commodity groups, farm organization leaders, people at the State House that really appreciate his camaraderie and ability to lead us.

when it comes to agriculture funding and the projects that we've got.

Right, you know, across in the aisle.

He did that a lot or tried to do it an awful lot.

So, yeah, it worked out well for the farmers in this state.

And of course,

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they're trying to, you

know, they're trying to help the farmers now because of some of the federal budget cuts.

So we'll see what happens with that on his way out anyway.

He'll be able to take care of some of that.

Now, what's the story?

Well, yeah, we

move on to this with the army.

Where's an army worm?

What is

that?

I've never even heard

of an army.

It's a militia group out there.

That's

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a smartly dressed insects

that

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will cross your guy.

No reason.

You know, this is one of those weird things where the population of something we call army worms has really escalated in Wisconsin in a quick hurry.

I sent you guys some pictures that'll make your skin crawl.

These are insects that attack.

particularly our corn fields, but they'll also they'll eat pretty much any grass.

Corn is a member of the grass family.

So people in the urban city centers may even see these rascals from time to time.

Hopefully not in a lot of mass.

We've gotten reports from agronomist and county extension agents in Iowa cropper Dane Dunn Taylor.

Jefferson, they're all over the place and these insects have now reached populations that are so big when they get done in one field, they will literally march across a road to get to the next field.

I've got guys up in Dunn County that videotaped literally masses of these insects, these worms crawling from one field across the road into the next field.

So

Normally we'd see their population start to crash right around now, but they're saying because of the way the weather was a little bit cooler and what are the spring and then the heat later on.

We think these rascals are going to eat.

all the way to August.

So like I said, if you've got grasses around or something like that, even maybe people with corn in their garden, keep an eye out for these doggone things.

Because like I said, when they build population, it'll make you shake your head.

So they've been around a long time, right?

We've been dealing with that.

Oh, yeah, they're

Pam Jahnke

okay.

Yeah, they're they're not the new it's just that we don't see populations like this every year.

Yeah.

Well, we got like in our lawn like jumping worms.

I'm not sure if that's the exact term for them.

But what they do is they destroy

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the

soil.

They actually eat the soil

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and

the soil just crumbles underneath your feet and plants can't grow on it.

So I hope they don't make it into the fields of our over great state.

Yeah.

So it's

also a national ice cream month.

Yeah, it's

still ice.

Yeah,

Pam Jahnke

right and I just

I just wanted to let you know our friends at the chocolate shop, which is just down the road from the studio.

They are still rolling out new flavors this year.

One of them is essentially exclamation mark asterix just got serious.

They say that one of the reasons why their ice cream is so popular is the outrageous names that they put to them.

That's one of them.

Kitty Kitty Bang Bang is another flavor that is out there.

Also coming in August, they do a big deal during National Mustard Day in August.

And believe it or not, when it comes to bizarre flavors, mustard ice cream on the way in August

to celebrate

Pam Jahnke

National Mustard

Day.

I cannot wait for

that.

I like it.

I like it.

All right, Pam.

So you're going to be, let's see, I guess we're not talking to you until sometime down the road.

Yeah, later in August.

I'm taking off,

Pam Jahnke

taking off to the, on the Canadian.

Canadian farm

tour tomorrow.

Pam Jahnke

I'll maybe shoot you guys some pictures, some thoughts that we can discuss when I return.

Please

do.

Yeah, we'd like to see that.

Get

anything that you send us.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

All

right, Pam.

Thank you very much.

Thank you so much.

Enjoy your trip.

And we'll talk to you when you return.

Yeah, that's Pam.

Very good, fellas.

Have a good day.

All

right.

Thank you.

Pam Yankee, the fabulous

farm babe.

They have to come up with their own army of human stompers and get those damn worms.

Those army worms.

I'm sorry.

The army

worms?

It's against our own John and Gordy army.

They're taking over.

People stomping on worms.

Yes.

29 minutes past the hour, we will continue for a Friday morning.

John and Gordy, back after this.

WFBX,

John and Gordy, we're getting ready for our marching

orders.

We're going to go out against those army worms, you know, our militia here.

There might have been a few people that didn't hear the story from Pam Yankee about the army worms invading the fields and not crossing the street.

Early, it's a big problem.

It is a big problem in our in our agricultural setting.

It's 635.

We've got clouds out there this morning, 69 degrees highs today in the low to mid 80s.

Let's recap everything we've talked about for the last half

hour.

I have a couple

of

technical glitches along the way, but I think we're good to go here.

Yeah, we were talking about Tony Evers,

deciding

that's it.

Yeah, this is the Goodbye Tony Evers edition.

of the show.

Do we have... We've got some music

here somewhere.

But we have the Tony song.

We do.

Let me just get that ready real quick.

Because this is our farewell to Tony time.

It is.

It

is.

It's a big salute to Tony.

Let's get

it.

Okay.

Here

we go.

Stayed up all night getting this together.

The

Tony song.

That Tony song.

Here it is.

It's been fantastic, you know.

Spin the turntable.

It's great to know that that Tony song is all in.

Push the button.

Here we go.

Tony, Tony, Tony.

Tony, Tony, Tony.

Yeah.

Tony.

Tony.

Tony,

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Tony, Tony.

Tony Tony Tony Tony

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

Tony

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

That's it.

And speculation now who will replace him?

That's right.

This

will be the first time

in 16 years.

It has opened the floodgates for the right wing apparently to take over the state again.

Is that even possible?

Do we really want to see something like that?

Do we want to see somebody who's saying, well, I've got Trump's endorsement.

Is that a positive at this point?

I don't think so.

But anyway, Scott Walker has thrown his hat kind of in the ring.

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At

least he posted a hat with the years when he was governor.

Something, I don't know.

But I know that he is suggesting

that he could run.

He could come back.

Yes.

And so it's wide open now.

Any Republicans can run, any

Democrats?

Tom Tiffany, you know, he promoted mining in this state and left us without any mining laws anymore.

Just, you know, you can do anything you want out there at this point.

And he wants to be governor and probably, you know, finish the job because we do depend on...

summer vacations, we do depend on the flatlanders making it up here to their cabins on our beautiful Wisconsin lakes and Tom Tiffany probably doesn't like any of that.

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We'll

do away with the lakes.

There's great minerals beneath those

lakes.

Well, we'll keep an eye on who's gonna be running and who's gonna throw their hat in the ring.

Yeah, yeah open field now.

Well, you know damn chaffer called for the retirement of Tony Evers our own dance and I was angry with him.

I I sent him a nasty letter did you I didn't But I didn't want I didn't want Tony to get the idea that we didn't want to see him run again.

He's the most popular politician

in the state.

And this is not good news.

But he's done it for a while.

He's done his time.

So, you know, good luck to him.

That's like you or me retiring because of our age.

Well, you're closer to Tony's age than I

am.

So, you know, the writing's on the wall for

both of us.

Alright, CJ is saying right now, why don't you retire?

Why don't you?

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Yeah, okay.

Why don't we get to our big first story here in idiocracy?

We haven't even played that

intro.

Well now we do.

Look at this.

Oh

pretty

much so yes indeed well this is this is the big news from yesterday even though there are a number of big news stories that were released all at once always God is just

It's a fire hose, isn't it?

Every day.

Anyway, Trump's new AI policies will keep the culture war focused on the tech companies.

Now, I don't know if this is good news for the tech companies and that Trump signed an executive order requiring artificial intelligence companies that do business with the federal government to strip AI models.

My head is exploding from this idea.

AI models of ideological agendas.

What yes, they're gonna strip AI of ideological agendas Mega AI is here folks.

It is here and it's gonna be powerful.

We've got three and a half years to fine-tune this Trump said this this is a quote It poses an existential threat.

He didn't he didn't he doesn't know that word.

I know this is a posting now threat to reliable AI reliable AI

God, he still doesn't even understand AI.

And now on the US government will deal only with AI that pursues truth, fairness, and strict impartiality.

The American people do not want woke Marxist lunacy in the AI model.

So all...

So anything you said in this quote is just negated by the fact that he is going to steer AI into another direction, and it ain't in the woke direction at all.

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So

now, can that be fair?

Can that be the truth?

Can it be strict impartiality?

If you get one point of view that you don't agree with, eliminated from AI?

No.

Right?

Here's the question.

Can we program out reality?

AI

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is

based on reality.

The news stories, the topics out there, the research.

All the knowledge in the world.

It's reality.

Can we tune that out?

No.

Can we?

There may be a way to do it.

Imagine giving a voice.

They have voices for this.

AI stuff, you know, we've heard rock, right?

Now get this, can you imagine like CJ's voice being a part of maybe the new AI that Trump wants to promote or my mega friend in Milwaukee, which you haven't heard, but thank God you haven't.

It's not good.

Or your crazy uncle that stormed out at Christmas, calling everyone a terrorist.

How about his voice being a new voice of the

Trump's idea of AI policies in this country.

Here's a little bit of a report here.

This is cut 138 on Trump's idea of AI.

Let's listen to this.

This is from NPR.

Yeah, it's a set of policies and executive orders striving to cut red tape for AI companies So they can build massive data centers faster more easily ship AI hardware and software to overseas customers and root out as you mentioned What the Trump administration views as AI chatbots that have adopted a liberal worldview the president calls this wokeness Here's I'm speaking yesterday at an AI summit in Washington

from now on the US government will deal only with AI that pursues truth fairness and strict

impartiality.

Trump is nodding there to one of the announcements that grabbed a lot of headline Sasha, which was

that there is now a ban on federal contracts with tech companies that push woke AI.

The order defines that as AI that promotes diversity, equity and inclusion, transgender issues and critical race theory.

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And how is the administration proposing to ban such a thing?

Yeah, Trump's order spells out how tech companies would essentially have to certify that their AI chatbots are politically neutral before receiving

work

from the federal government.

I talked to Neil Sahoda about this.

He advises the United Nations

on AI issues, and this is how he says the tech industry is receiving this woke AI order.

I would say they're deeply concerned by the situation.

You know, this is a global arms race with AI, but now you're putting in some very nebulous things that may actually undo some of the guardrails and safeguards you've actually built in because it may be considered biased or might be considered woke.

So Hoda says one outcome of this could be AI companies releasing new versions of chatbots that have fewer guardrails and could be seen as anti-woke in order to land

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you know some

lucrative federal contract.

Some say all this warming up to Trump that we've seen the tech industry do in recent months appears to be paying off.

Worth noting Sasha just how much of a contrast this is compared to the Biden administration which put the focus on AI safety and making sure AI tools were not used to discriminate or perpetuate bias.

Trump's AI

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executive

orders do not include any measures

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to

counter

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harm

or address how AI could one day kill jobs.

Critics of yesterday's plan say it demonstrated that the administration is basically allowing the tech industry to write their own regulations.

But Trump insists these policies are needed in order to out-compete China in the AI race.

That's ridiculous, isn't

it?

Isn't that outrageous?

Yes.

I mean, again, you can't take reality out of AI.

It reaches every part of everything we have written in society, all the research, everything that we've set on the

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air.

all transcribed somehow and an AI has access to all of that how can we take that out don't know how to and

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by the way is that a

good news for these tech giants these billionaires are they gonna be able to do something like that or are they going to steer everything in Trump's direction can you imagine in three and a half years when a Democratic president is in place that's all gone and here's the thing that I think we need to do as Democrats

We need to guarantee that all of these changes will be done away with once the Democrats get in power We need to go out there and tell everybody that it's not gonna be the the Trump Center anymore.

It's gonna be you know the John Kennedy, right?

And certainly not it's not gonna be Melania

Opera house the Melania.

Yeah, no the first lady Melania Trump opera

house.

Yes,

right

exactly.

It's crazy We do

that as as politicians we need to go out there and say all of these things you think you're gonna get away with that You're not we're taking all of that away if you put that in place It's gone once we get in power and and let them know that all of this stuff that they're doing is a waste of damn time And we have to threaten them but I'm telling them this yes, we're just

Letting them get away with this.

Yeah.

Well, they're still in power though.

And that's just brush that off.

Yeah.

Like, what are you telling us?

Mega AI?

What is happening in this country?

My god.

You know, I already, you know.

I was going to play something from Grok.

We heard that, you know, Elon has reprogrammed Grok to be more like him.

And it is now.

All right, we'll get to that.

That's coming up.

And a whole lot more.

And it is Free Ticket Friday.

We'll get to that as well.

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You can see them forming on State Street.

They're ready to

dance.

Here

they go.

In a line.

There

they

are.

Yes.

I wonder if it feels so good.

Look, it's Tony Bennett.

It is Tony.

Hey, good to see you.

Oh, it's Tony.

Mm-hmm.

All right.

Well.

WMDX Johnny Gordy in the morning the capital city Madison

and a

good morning to everybody out there You could check us out on the civic media app, and I believe we're on the air now.

So Yeah, we'll act like it everything you missed everything We talked about prior to that and we're talking about Gaza the horrible thing that's going on there I mean the world is seeing what's what's taking place now.

Yeah of the starvation is just outrageous and something so difficult to watch that

I know it's bringing me down here.

We have it up on CNN But you know, we were talking about if we were talking about AI Being more Megan now because they have to get rid of woke but it has to be based on truth

Yes,

what's out there the research, right?

So they're eliminating reality in some way shape or form It's the billionaires that control this and they can do it I guess and but

Of course, this country will be well behind all the other countries that develop AI into these perfect geniuses, right?

And we will be instead a mega AI country.

Wow!

There's something good about that.

That's the

plan, huh?

Good luck with that.

It is 6.54, cloudy skies today, highs in the low 80s.

All right, we will continue.

Go ahead, John.

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All

right, let's go to the phones.

We've got Dick on the line.

Dick, what do you got for us this morning?

Morning.

Oh, sorry.

You're on the air.

We have to see that wonderful get together that Trump had with Jerome Powell.

Oh, yeah

Yeah, they were walking around in hard hats and looking at the building there.

Yeah Yeah, what was beautiful as Paul just kept shaking his head.

No, no, no And then if I was Paul, I would have turned to him said, you know, even if there are cost overruns We don't deadbeat everybody like you did.

Yeah Well, that's true

I have a cut, I have that cut, that interaction between Trump and Powell.

So what, could you play that cut, cut 139?

I know everybody's busy doing something else around here, but why don't we just get back to the show, cut 139.

This is Trump and Jerome Powell.

Let's listen.

And we're just taking a look at what's happening and it's a tough construction job, building basements where

They didn't exist or expanding them, and a lot of very expensive work.

There's no question about it.

Yeah.

And Tim has been with me for a long time,

and you're in charge of the committee.

Indeed, one of the reasons I wanted to see it was the overruns of the expenses, wanting to figure out why.

What an ask, sir.

Jesus.

So we're taking a look, and it looks like it's about 3.1 billion.

It went up a little bit.

No.

Or a lot.

So the 2.7 is now 3.1.

No.

I'm not aware of that.

Yeah,

it just came

out.

Yeah, I haven't heard that from anybody this fast.

It just came

out.

It just came out.

He's got it.

He came out of his mouth.

His coat pocket.

3.1, 3.2.

Passing along to Jerome.

Yes.

He's going to read it.

Who

does that?

You're including the Martin renovation.

You just added in the third building as

well.

It was

built five years ago.

We finished Martin five years ago.

Part of the overall work.

So we're going to take a look.

Five years

old.

Have you ever, Senator Chris Murphy, is a Democrat of Connecticut and he joins me.

You're

talking about a building for these five years.

I didn't see that I didn't see that one yet.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

I mean, listen, he's not upset about that in part because the clip is so absurd that it is going to get played a whole bunch of times today.

And I will to some extent crowd out this blossoming awful news for him about being included in the

episode.

All right.

So that that's the clip.

And

I appreciate

your bringing it up, Dick.

Yeah.

Thanks for the call, Dick.

Yeah.

All right, and I just want to play you know just part of this cut where grok was reprogrammed

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See they can

do anything they want

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the AI

and and I truly I was a big supporter of it We wanted to have an AI assistant right here on the program

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right a visual

one where you could actually watch yes

We were trying to work that yes, and they had a robotic one at one of the consumer electronic show Displays and we wanted it on the program, but we could not land that deal

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But here

it is this is this is what you can do to AI Anybody trusted anymore listen to this.

Okay, what cut 49 all right 49 here we go

All right.

And so we've seen the mixed results, like when Grock started hallucinating about so-called white genocide in Elon's native country of South Africa.

Remember, for a couple of days or so, the AI bought shoehorn the topic into all kinds of replies, regardless of the original context.

And a couple of weeks ago, Musk announced he would be doing a little more tinkering with Grock in order to placate those right-wingers who think it fact checks them too much still.

See, I mean, that is

what

happened.

And they're going to do that now.

All the big billionaires who have all these great AI.

but are are going to reprogram them to get rid of reality, get rid of all the wokeness out there and make it so we hear more of the blaze or perhaps all the all the other alternative media outlets.

Great.

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