Worms and Woke AI (Hour 1)

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Worms and Woke AI (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Fri Jul 25, 2025

Narrator

When the chips are down and democracy's back is up against the wall, two radio veterans step up to the microphone to right the wrongs, standing for truth, justice, and just because.

Hey, are they ready to go yet?

It's John and Gordy on 92.7 WMDX.

John (Co-Host)

This is a great day, isn't it?

It's beautiful outside.

Yeah,

it's not bad.

This

is fantastic so far.

We'll

take

it.

If we could just keep the heat away.

If.

If.

If

we could.

I don't know the weather forecast, so I'm assuming that we're going to have another hot, miserable day today with high

dew

points and high humidity.

Something that will keep us all indoors and comfortably sitting in air-conditioning all day long.

Actually, temperatures are gonna be just about normal for this time of year.

Is that really gonna be all that bad?

You know, I rehearsed that and... You did.

And so I just wasted that.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, right now it's not looking bad at all.

A few early morning clouds and we might see a couple of spots of very light rain, you know.

Temporarily, but a high today about 83 degrees.

Wow, that's really fantastic.

Yeah, I don't know the dew point you might have the dew point on your Samsung WM DX watch I actually do get the dew point listed on here because it's very

important to me and

for

some reason you're obsessed

They

know that I like the dew point.

Yes,

and the dew point will be yeah, or is yeah 69

OK.

Degrees.

That's outrageous.

That's pretty high.

That is very uncomfortable.

So

feel muggy.

Humidity at 90%.

Yeah.

That's

pretty

high.

Are you

saying it's nice out there?

What's I saying?

I don't know.

I take that all back right now.

OK.

Yeah, it's going to be a little muggy.

And then the weekend is going to heat up.

I think mid 80s, mid to upper 80s tomorrow, and then in the 90s on Sunday.

You

know, I always gave you the sunset time, right?

Yeah, I was wondering why you haven't done that lately.

I don't want to

shock anybody.

What?

This is really,

you know, it's always

around, you know, 835,

something like that.

Yeah, what's it, what is it now?

Well, for some reason, the Earth has tilted in the wrong

direction.

I

think Trump had something to do with that.

Of course.

But sunset is at...

826, we have lost a lot of time.

The days are getting a little shorter.

No, it means that things are getting darker.

Darkness is descending on all of us.

Oh my God.

What are we going to do?

I don't know.

Well, it's Friday.

And that's that's a good thing.

Looking forward to the weekend.

Atwood Fest, you know, is happening Saturday and Sunday and Rocker will be here later.

What's

a pot as we spin on the whole thing?

Disaster spin that I just gave it.

Yes.

Oh,

yeah.

Atwood Fest is fantastic.

What is

going on here?

I'm getting a call.

Catherine Lane.

How are we doing?

Then

she knows we're

on

Gordy (Co-Host)

the

John (Co-Host)

air.

Maybe we're not on the air.

Does it look like

Gordy (Co-Host)

we

John (Co-Host)

are?

Yeah, I don't know why.

OK.

This

Gordy (Co-Host)

is the second time this week.

John (Co-Host)

Yeah.

Well, as far as we know, we're doing OK here.

So we'll just continue.

Are we on the app?

Checking.

Hang on a second.

Let's get to the couple other things that we're doing today.

We have free ticket Friday coming up.

Tickets to a brewery game.

All right.

And as I mentioned before, Rocker will be in.

with the Maxing preview.

Why don't you check in with Pam Yankee?

Yeah, let's find

out what she has to say there.

I just want to mention here the late breaking news, of course, is Tony Evers has announced he is not running for reelection and good news for everybody out there waiting for Scott Walker to come back.

He has posted a hat that would mean that he wants to be the next governor again.

No, no, no, I know, we're all screaming.

but It's a possibility look there is no good possibility on the right right side of the aisle because we have we have Tom Tiffany who destroyed the environmental part of our Wisconsin Vacations now he wants to be governor and you know one last chop and that'll do the state away So anyway all of this is all this is happening.

It's percolating and I just want to mention that this is the goodbye

Tony edition of the John and Gordy show.

Goodbye Tony.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

He's calling it quits.

He is.

He's calling it quits.

Yeah.

So do we have anything?

We've dedicated a couple of songs for Tony and we'll be rotating them through the morning.

Let's listen

to one of

them right here.

Let's hear it.

It's a little dedicated song for Tony Evers who is announcing his retirement from politics And yes, we are having some problems ice has has scooped us up and we are broadcasting supposedly from One of the detention centers.

They said that we would be on the radio.

I don't know but They may have yeah

They

have

other plans.

Well, we'll just continue here.

So

what is it?

We're online, but I don't know.

Casting from the stick.

Engineers are checking it out right now.

So we'll just continue as is.

How

hard would it be to just pull us up on the app to find

out whether we're on the

internet?

Well, we're checking.

We're doing that right

now.

On the internet air.

In the internet?

Yes.

The tubes.

Yeah.

Are we streaming

through the tubes right now?

Why don't we do, would you rather, as long as we

Are going to just continue?

Let's just see what's happening.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Let's do some Would You Rather.

John (Co-Host)

Let's

Gordy (Co-Host)

take

John (Co-Host)

it easy this Friday.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Would you rather?

Let's do some Would You

John (Co-Host)

Rather.

Hit the Would You Rather theme song that you worked so hard to produce.

Is this new?

No.

Just never heard the beginning of it before.

There we

go.

There we go.

All right.

Alright.

So what's the question?

Must be getting used to it.

I can

Gordy (Co-Host)

understand it.

That was more clear.

Yeah.

Alright, first question.

Would you rather be surrounded by people who brag all the time?

Yeah.

Or by people who complain all the time?

This one's tricky.

Complain all the time.

I would do complain.

Sure.

John (Co-Host)

Yeah, I think I'm in agreement with that.

Yeah.

Well, we have no choice.

We really don't, yeah.

People I know are complaining all the time.

Mmm.

Yeah, that's the way it is.

All right.

I don't like braggers a lot, you know.

No, I know.

Those are the CJ's and my major friend in Milwaukee.

Okay.

Gordy (Co-Host)

All right.

Second question.

Would you rather fight two hundred third graders?

Or a bear with sharks for arms?

Wow.

John (Co-Host)

A bear with sharks for arms.

Oh my god.

I think I'm... That'd be horrible.

Gordy (Co-Host)

I'm

John (Co-Host)

fighting those third graders.

Yeah,

I'll take on the third graders.

Oh yeah,

I've already taken the third graders on.

Yeah.

And now they're

Gen Zers.

I had two of

Gordy (Co-Host)

them.

Yeah, I don't know.

A bear with sharks for arms would be kind of scary, I don't know.

That's... Yeah.

That elevates the shark a little bit in the danger zone.

John (Co-Host)

Yeah.

Yeah, well, you know, you know, it's too bad that we didn't do the national day calendar today because you know, we've eliminated that from We have we take

it up because it's just useless, you

know, we had to each and every day is the same as last

year

If we had to do it the one that I would highlight.

Yes would be national talk in an elevator day So if you have an elevator in your building get to yourself just stay in it all day and start talking to yourself.

Yeah

why not that would be excellent it's also national

get gnarly day wouldn't that be great to just you know start a really really uncomfortable conversation in

an elevator yeah

uncomfortable conversation

day in an elevator i like it we should submit that yeah the national day calendar if we were to do that now

and what was the other one that you thought was fantastic

I just closed it out.

Well, I have a short attention span, so do you.

What was it?

Let me check.

Hang on.

It

went

by very

quickly

for me.

It did.

It did.

It was national.

Oh, there it is.

Get gnarly.

Get gnarly day.

Yeah, last Friday in July.

No one uses it, you know, getting

early.

July

has gone by

very, very

quickly.

It really has.

You know, we had these birthdays and they seem to last for weeks.

Yes, they did.

So we got so much new.

We got we got we got so much to get to.

I

Narrator

don't know

John (Co-Host)

where to begin.

I don't either.

But we do have free ticket Friday and that'll be coming along in a little while.

as soon as we get things straightened away here.

And we'll talk to Savannah Tome Olson, find out the news of this week, maybe some highlights for the weekend, and Pam Yonkey coming up shortly.

Oh, yeah.

And then Pam is going to be, I think she's going traveling and going on vacation.

So we'll find out a little bit more about what Pam's up to in just a few minutes.

Let's see.

I don't want to bring everybody down, but you know,

that's happening to guys is just so bad

right

now that it's You know, it's not like you're picking a side anymore.

You know what you know What's frustrating you?

You know, it's just killing you inside watching this thing unfold and every time something does happen Israel bombs something it's oh, well, it's a it's an errant missile

Every time it's an errant missile

Narrator

and it's always an

John (Co-Host)

errant missile killing a lot of people, innocent people.

And I'm just tired, well I was tired of it a long time ago, but I'm really, really, extremely tired of it right now.

Well and they continue to have a lot of problems bringing in food and it's just, it's a humanitarian crisis.

There

shouldn't be a

problem bringing in food to

Gaza.

No.

No,

that whole

conflict is over and I don't know for some reason Israel thinks that that conflict is still

running hot Well, Israel Israel and the US both pulled out of the ceasefire talks that were taking place Yesterday officially they pulled out.

Well, of course at this happening

at this point.

They're

just shooting at people killing them

That's it

children.

They're starving children and people in Gaza.

Yeah, that's what's going on in its

There's no excuse for it.

None whatsoever.

And you can't make up an excuse about this.

You can't.

No.

All there's, all there, you know, there's still Hamas in there, you know, you gotta look out for that.

Yeah, just kill everybody because then you can eliminate Hamas.

Go for it, huh?

Yeah.

That doesn't make any sense.

This is, this has just gotta end.

Well, and this is part of the problem.

We get caught up in the Epstein files, and that's what it's all about.

And that's just the headlines every day, every night.

It seems like that's just continuing to gain momentum.

It's not dying down at all.

But all the other headlines around the rest of the world slide to the back of the line.

Well, one thing,

if Trump were president, this would not be a wait.

He is present.

He's still present.

So this

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is happening.

John (Co-Host)

Well, I guess that wasn't true after all.

Right.

I'm surprised.

Yes.

Gordy (Co-Host)

All right.

Are we

John (Co-Host)

on

Gordy (Co-Host)

the air or not?

Are we on the air?

We are not.

We're going to still continue.

We're still going to continue like we are.

And that means

John (Co-Host)

they're going to get us back on any second now.

Any second.

So

Gordy (Co-Host)

it's not on the app.

I don't

John (Co-Host)

know.

It

Gordy (Co-Host)

is not on the app.

No.

But we're going to still continue.

John (Co-Host)

All right.

Soldier on here Let's see 19 minutes past the hour and again a warm one today, but not as hot as it's gonna get over the weekend.

Oh, we'll keep a track of that

The big news I think is that lay lays potato chips Yeah, I've been forced to change their recipe after 30 years.

Are you kidding me?

Yeah,

why I'm

not kidding.

It's

it's a problem with them.

Well,

there's a There's a FDA ban on some of the ingredients of lace potato chips

and

now they have to change I don't know what they were making lace potato chips in Okay, well, they're gonna make it in something else.

Narrator

Maybe they

John (Co-Host)

won't even use potatoes anymore I don't know.

You never know.

Okay, Junior me think

they're poisonous nine 19 past the hour when we come back we'll chat with ham yaki on John

Gordy in the morning.

John (Host)

The Wisconsin landscape has lit up five million shining stars.

I am traveling up these to the land of the under-21 bars.

Going to Cheeseland.

I'm going to Cheeseland.

The Dales and Door County.

I'm going to Cheeseland.

All right.

WMDX John and Gordy in the morning.

We're back on the air.

I think 623

Gordy (Host)

highs today in the low to mid 80s, and that's going to feel muggy through the day and hotter over the weekend.

And let's check in with Pam Yonkey,

John (Host)

the

Gordy (Host)

fabulous farm babe.

Good morning, Pam.

How are you?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Morning guys.

Morning guys.

Yeah, it's not too bad out there right now Yeah, but yeah, I think we're gonna have a second skin by the time we get lunchtime

John (Host)

Ain't

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

that the

John (Host)

truth, you

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

know, everybody's

John (Host)

reacting now to Tony Evers Not running for reelection retiring and you know one thing that both sides were having common We're supporting farmers in the state and agriculture.

What's a reaction already?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Yeah, you know

Yeah, it's been very positive.

I mean, the one thing I think people sometimes overlook, especially when it's in the heat of battle for the state budget, is that agriculture is really one of the foundations in Wisconsin where it's bipartisan.

Both parties come together.

The numbers may deviate a little bit as far as overall funding, but the consensus

Both Republicans and Democrats is that agriculture in Wisconsin needs our support.

And Governor Evers really was very proud to carry that banner forward after Scott Walker exited and so forth.

And it's one of the deals where all of agriculture yesterday, no matter the commodity group or farm organization, basically thanking for

thanking Governor Evers for his consideration of Wisconsin farmers, conservation, water quality, you know, all the things that make Wisconsin what it is.

And like I said, regardless of political lines or affiliations, agriculture seems to be a gathering force down at the Capitol.

So like I said, wishing him and Kathy nothing but the best as they move into the next phase of their life.

And now, you know, how it goes, everybody's going to start guessing who's going to throw their head in next.

But I just wanted

to make sure that Governor Evers knows that there's a lot of commodity groups, farm organization leaders, people at the State House that really appreciate his camaraderie and ability to lead us.

when it comes to agriculture funding and the projects that we've got.

John (Host)

Right, you know, across in the aisle.

He did that a lot or tried to do it an awful lot.

So, yeah, it worked out well for the farmers in this state.

And of

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

course,

John (Host)

they're trying to, you know, they're trying to help the farmers now because of some of the federal budget cuts.

So we'll see what happens with that on his way out anyway.

He'll be able to take care of some of that.

Now, what's the story?

Well, yeah, we

Gordy (Host)

move on to this with the army where it's an army worm.

John (Host)

Yeah, what is

Gordy (Host)

that?

I've never even heard of

John (Host)

some militia group out there.

That's

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

a Smartly dressed insects that will crush your guy.

No

This is one of those weird things where the population of something we call army worms has really escalated in Wisconsin in a quick hurry.

I sent you guys some pictures that'll make your skin crawl.

These are insects that attack.

particularly our corn fields, but they'll also they'll eat pretty much any grass.

Corn is a member of the grass family.

So people in the urban city centers may even see these rascals from time to time.

Hopefully not in a lot of mass.

We've gotten reports from agronomist and county extension agents in Iowa cropper Dane Dunn Taylor.

Jefferson, they're all o these insects have now rea are so big when they get literally march across a ro the next field.

I've g that videotaped literally insects, these worms from one field across th field.

So normally we'd see start to crash right aro

but they're saying because of the way the weather was, you know, a little bit cooler and wetter this spring.

And then the heat later on, we think these rascals are going to eat all the way to August.

So like I said, if you've got grasses around or something like that, even maybe people with corn in their garden, keep an eye out for these doggone things.

Cause like I said, when they build population, it'll make you shake your head.

So they've been around a long time, right?

John (Host)

We've been dealing

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

with that.

Oh, yeah,

John (Host)

they're

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

okay.

Yeah, they're not the new it's just that we don't see populations like this every year.

John (Host)

Yeah, well, we got like in our lawn like jumping worms.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

I'm not

John (Host)

sure if that's

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

the exact term

John (Host)

for them.

But what they do is they destroy

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

the

John (Host)

soil.

They actually eat the soil

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

and

John (Host)

the soil just crumbles underneath your feet and plants can't grow on it.

So I hope they don't make it into the fields of our over great state.

Yeah.

And it's

Gordy (Host)

also a national ice cream month.

John (Host)

Yeah,

Gordy (Host)

it's still

John (Host)

ice.

Gordy (Host)

cream.

Yeah.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Right.

And I just I just wanted to let you know our friends at the chocolate shop, which is just down the road from the studio.

They are still rolling out new flavors this year.

One of them is essentially exclamation mark asterix just got serious.

They say that one of the reasons why their ice cream is so popular is the outrageous names that they put to them.

That's one of them.

Kitty Kitty bang bang is another flavor that is out there.

Also coming in August, they do a big deal during

national mustard day in august and believe it or not when it comes to bizarre flavors mustard ice cream on the way in august.

to celebrate National Mustard

John (Host)

Day.

I cannot wait for

Gordy (Host)

that.

I like it.

I like it.

All right, Pam.

So you're going to be, let's see, I guess we're not talking to you until sometime down the

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

road.

Later in August.

I'm taking off, taking off to the, on the Canadian, Canadian farm tour tomorrow.

So I'll maybe shoot you, shoot you guys some pictures, some thoughts that we can discuss when I return.

John (Host)

Please do.

Yeah, we'd love to.

to see that.

Get

Gordy (Host)

anything that you send us.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

All

John (Host)

right, ma'am.

Thank you very much.

Thank

Gordy (Host)

you so much.

Enjoy your trip.

And we'll talk to you when you return.

Yeah.

That's Pam.

John (Host)

Very good,

Gordy (Host)

fellas.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Have a good

Gordy (Host)

day.

John (Host)

All right.

Thank

Gordy (Host)

you.

Pam Yaki, the

John (Host)

fabulous Farm Bay.

They have to come up with their own army of human stompers and get those damn worms.

Those army worms out of here.

The army worms.

It's against our own Johnny Gordy

Gordy (Host)

army.

They're taking over.

John (Host)

People stomping on worms.

Gordy (Host)

Yes.

29 minutes past the hour.

We will continue for a Friday morning.

John and Gordy are back after this.

SPEAKER_??

you

John (Host)

WFDX, John and Gordy, we're getting

ready for our marching.

Gordy (Host)

Marching orders,

John (Host)

yeah We're gonna go out against those those army worms, you know,

yeah

pretty in our militia here and we're gonna There might have been a few people that didn't hear the story from Pam Yankee about the army worms invading the fields and not crossing the street Early it's a big problem.

It is a big problem.

Yeah

in our agricultural setting.

Gordy (Host)

It's 635.

We've got clouds out there this morning, 69 degrees highs today in the low to mid 80s.

Okay,

John (Host)

let's recap everything we've talked about for

Gordy (Host)

the last half hour.

A couple of technical glitches along the way, but I think we're good to go here.

Yeah, we were talking about Tony Evers, deciding that's it.

John (Host)

Yeah, this is

Gordy (Host)

the

John (Host)

Goodbye Tony Evers edition.

of the show.

Do we have...

Gordy (Host)

We've got some music here somewhere.

But

John (Host)

we have the Tony song

Gordy (Host)

going.

We

John (Host)

do.

Let me just get

Gordy (Host)

that ready real quick.

Because this is our farewell to Tony time.

It is, it is.

It's a big salute to Tony.

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Let's

Gordy (Host)

hit it.

Okay.

Here we go.

Stayed up all night getting this together.

The Tony song.

John (Host)

That Tony

Gordy (Host)

song.

Here it is.

It's been

John (Host)

fantastic, you

Gordy (Host)

know.

John (Host)

Spin

Gordy (Host)

the turntable.

It's great to know

John (Host)

that that Tony song is all

Gordy (Host)

in.

Push the button.

Here we

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go.

Tony, Tony, Tony.

Tony, Tony, Tony.

Tony, Tony,

Tony.

Tony, Tony, Tony.

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

John (Host)

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

Gordy (Host)

Tony

John (Host)

Tony Tony Tony Tony

Gordy (Host)

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony

That's it.

And speculation now who will replace him.

That's right.

This will be the first time in

John (Host)

16 years.

It has opened the floodgates for the right wing.

Apparently.

To take over the state again.

Is

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that

John (Host)

even possible?

Do we really want to see something like that?

Do we want

Gordy (Host)

to

John (Host)

see somebody who's saying, well, I've got Trump's endorsement?

Is that a positive

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at

John (Host)

this point?

I don't think so.

But anyway, Scott Walker has thrown his hat.

Kind of in the ring,

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at

John (Host)

least he posted a hat with the years when he was governor.

Oh,

Gordy (Host)

really?

John (Host)

Something, I don't know.

Gordy (Host)

But I know

John (Host)

that he is suggesting that

Gordy (Host)

he could run.

He could come back.

Yes.

And so it's wide open now.

Any Republicans can run, any Democrats?

John (Host)

Tom Tiffany, you know, he promoted mining in this state and left us without any mining laws anymore.

You can do anything you want out there at this point.

And he wants to be governor and...

probably, you know, finish the job.

Because we do depend on summer vacations.

We do depend on the flatlanders making it up here to their cabins on our beautiful Wisconsin lakes.

And Tom Tiffany probably doesn't like any of that.

We'll do away with the lakes.

Mind them.

Somehow there's great, great minerals beneath those

Gordy (Host)

lakes.

Well, we'll keep an eye on who's gonna be running and who's gonna throw their hat in the ring.

John (Host)

Yeah, yeah open field now.

Well, you know damn chaffer called for the retirement of Tony Evers

Gordy (Host)

our own dance

John (Host)

and I was angry with him.

I I sent him a nasty letter.

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I

John (Host)

didn't But I didn't want

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I

John (Host)

didn't want Tony to get the idea that we didn't want to see him run again.

He's the most popular Politician in the state

And this is

Gordy (Host)

not good news.

But he's done it for a while.

He's done his time.

So, you know, good luck to him.

That's

John (Host)

like you or me retiring because of our age.

Gordy (Host)

Well, you're closer to Tony's age than I am.

So, you know, the writing's on the wall for both of

John (Host)

us.

CJ is saying right now, why don't you retire?

Why don't

Gordy (Host)

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Yeah.

John (Host)

Yeah.

Okay.

Why don't we get to our big first story

Gordy (Host)

here

John (Host)

in idiocracy.

We haven't even played that intro.

Well, now we do.

Look

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at this.

There was a place without boundaries a place

without limits.

Welcome to Costco.

I love you.

A place that is about to be.

I love that.

Yeah.

Violated.

Idiocracy.

The smartest guy in the world.

You're pretty dumb sometimes.

John (Host)

Pretty much so.

Yes indeed.

Well this is this is the big news from yesterday even though there are a number of big news stories that were released all at once.

Always.

God is just.

It's

Gordy (Host)

a fire hose, isn't it?

Every day.

John (Host)

Anyway, Trump's new AI policies will keep the culture war focused on the tech companies.

Now, I don't know if this is good news for the tech companies, and now Trump signed an executive order requiring artificial intelligence companies that do business with the federal government to strip AI models.

My head is exploding from this idea.

AI models of ideological agendas.

What yes, they're gonna strip AI of ideological agendas Mega AI is here folks.

It is here and it's gonna be powerful.

We've got three and a half years to fine-tune this Trump said this this is a quote It poses an existential threat.

He didn't

Gordy (Host)

he didn't know that word.

John (Host)

I know this is a posting now threat to reliable AI reliable AI

God, he still doesn't even understand AI.

And now on the US government will deal only with AI that pursues truth, fairness, and strict impartiality.

The American people do not want woke Marxist lunacy in the AI model.

So all...

So anything you said in this quote is just negated by the fact that he is going to steer AI into another direction and it ain't in the woke direction at all.

So

now, can that be fair?

Can that be the truth?

Can it be strict impartiality?

If you get one point of view that you don't agree with, eliminated from AI?

No.

Right?

Here's the question.

Can we program out reality?

AI

Gordy (Host)

is

John (Host)

based on reality.

The news stories, the topics out there, the research.

Gordy (Host)

All the knowledge in the world.

John (Host)

It's reality.

Can we tune that out?

No.

Can we?

There may be a way to do it.

Imagine giving a voice.

They have voices for this.

AI stuff,

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you know, we've

John (Host)

heard grok, right?

Now get this, can you imagine like CJ's voice being a part of maybe the new AI that Trump wants to promote or my mega friend in Milwaukee, which you haven't heard, but thank God you haven't.

It's not good.

Or your crazy uncle that stormed out at Christmas calling everyone a terrorist.

How about his voice being a new voice of the

Trump's idea of AI policies in this country.

Here's a little bit of a report here.

This is cut 138 on Trump's idea of AI.

Let's listen to this.

This is from NPR.

NPR Reporter

Yeah, it's a set of policies and executive orders striving to cut red tape for AI companies So they can build massive data centers faster more easily ship AI hardware and software to overseas customers and root out as you mentioned what the Trump administration views as AI chatbots that have adopted a liberal worldview the president calls this wokeness here's I'm speaking yesterday at a AI summit in Washington

Trump Audio Clip

that you can't from now on the US government will deal

only with AI that pursues truth, fairness, and strict impartiality.

NPR Reporter

Trump is nodding there to one of the announcements that grabbed a lot of headline Sasha, which was

that there is now a ban on federal contracts with tech companies that push woke AI.

The order defines that as AI that promotes diversity, equity and inclusion, transgender issues and critical race theory.

And

Trump Audio Clip

how is the administration proposing to ban such a thing?

NPR Reporter

Yeah, Trump's order spells out how tech companies would essentially have to certify that their AI chatbots are politically neutral before receiving work from the federal government.

I talked to Neil Sahoda about this.

He advises the United Nations.

on AI issues, and this is how he says the tech industry is receiving this woke AI order.

Neil Sahoda

I would say they're deeply concerned by the situation.

This is a global arms race with AI, but now you're putting in some very nebulous things that may actually undo some of the guardrails and safeguards you've actually built in because it may be considered

biased or might be considered woke.

NPR Reporter

So Hoda says one outcome of this could be AI companies releasing new versions of chatbots that have fewer guardrails and could be seen as anti-woke in order to land

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you know some

NPR Reporter

lucrative federal contract.

Some say all this warming up to Trump that we've seen the tech industry do in recent months appears to be paying off.

Worth noting Sasha just how much of a contrast this is compared to the Biden administration which put the focus on AI safety and making sure AI tools were not

used to discriminate or perpetuate bias.

Trump's AI

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executive

NPR Reporter

orders do not include any measures

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to

NPR Reporter

counter

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harm

NPR Reporter

or address how AI could one day kill jobs.

Critics of yesterday's plan say it demonstrated that the administration is basically allowing the tech industry to write their own regulations.

But Trump insists these policies are needed in order to out-compete China in the AI race.

That's ridiculous, isn't

John (Host)

it?

Isn't that outrageous?

Yes.

I mean, again, you can't take reality out of AI.

It reaches every part of everything we have written in society,

Gordy (Host)

all the research,

John (Host)

everything that we've set on the

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air.

John (Host)

all transcribed somehow and an AI has access to all of that how can we take that out don't know how to and

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by the way is that a

John (Host)

is that good news for these tech giants these billionaires are they gonna be able to do something like that or are they going to steer everything in Trump's direction can you imagine in three and a half years when a Democratic president is in place that's all gone and here's the thing that I think we need to do as Democrats

We need to guarantee that all of these changes will be done away with once the Democrats get in power.

We need to go out there and tell everybody that it's not gonna be the Trump Center anymore.

It's gonna be, you know, John Kennedy, right?

And certainly not, it's not gonna be Melania.

Gordy (Host)

Opera house the Melania.

Yeah, no the first lady Melania Trump opera house.

Yes, right exactly.

John (Host)

It's

Trump Audio Clip

crazy We

John (Host)

do that as as politicians we need to go out there and say all of these things you think you're gonna get away with that You're not we're taking all of that away if you put that in place.

It's gone once we get in power and and

Let them know that all of this stuff that they're doing is a waste of damn time.

And we have to threaten them by telling them this.

Gordy (Host)

Yes.

John (Host)

We're just letting them get away with this.

Gordy (Host)

Yeah.

Well, they're still in power, though.

And that's just to brush that off.

Yeah.

Like, what are you

John (Host)

telling us?

Mega

Gordy (Host)

AI?

What

John (Host)

is happening in this country?

My god.

You know, I already.

I was going to play something from Grok.

We heard that, you know, Elon has reprogrammed Grok to be more like him.

And it is now.

All

Gordy (Host)

right, we'll get to that.

That's coming up.

And a whole lot more.

And it is free Ticket Friday.

We'll get to that as well.

More Brewer's tickets to give away on John and Gordy in the morning.

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Thank you.

Tony Bennett (guest)

Well kids, there it is, Capital City.

Johnny Gordy (host)

You can see them forming on State Street.

They're ready to dance.

Tony Bennett (guest)

Here they go.

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In a line.

Tony Bennett (guest)

There's a swingin' town I know called Capital City.

People stop and scream hello in Capital City.

Johnny Gordy (host)

There they

Tony Bennett (guest)

are.

It's the kind of place.

That makes a bum feel like a king.

And it makes a king feel like a son of nutty cuckoo super king.

Look, it's Tony Bennett.

It is Tony.

Hey, good to see you.

Oh, it's Tony.

It's against the law to drown him.

All right.

Well,

Johnny Gordy (host)

WMDX.

Johnny Gordy in the morning of the Capitol City Madison.

And

Caller or Guest

a

Johnny Gordy (host)

good morning to everybody out there.

You can check us out on the Civic Media app and I believe we're on the air now.

We'll act like it.

Tony Bennett (guest)

You missed

Johnny Gordy (host)

everything we talked about prior to that.

And we're talking about Gaza, the horrible thing that's going on there.

I mean, the world is seeing what's taking place now.

Yeah, the starvation is

Tim (caller or participant)

just

Johnny Gordy (host)

outrageous and something so difficult to watch that I Don't know it's bringing me down here.

We have it up on CNN

Show Co-host

But you know, we were talking about

Johnny Gordy (host)

if we were talking about AI Being more Megan now because they have to get rid of woke

Show Co-host

but it

Johnny Gordy (host)

has to be based on truth

Show Co-host

Yes,

Johnny Gordy (host)

what's out there the research, right?

So they're eliminating reality in some way shape or form It's the billionaires that control this and they can do it.

I guess And but of course this country will be well behind all the other countries that develop AI into these perfect geniuses, right?

And we will be instead a mega AI country Wow

There's

Show Co-host

something good about that.

That's the plan, huh?

Good luck with that.

It is 6.54, cloudy skies today, highs in the low 80s.

All right, we will continue.

Go ahead.

No, no, you have

Johnny Gordy (host)

an announcement

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All right, let's go to the phones.

We've got Dick on the line.

Dick, what do you got for us this morning?

Show Co-host

Morning.

Huh?

Huh?

Oh, sorry.

Caller or Guest

You're on the air.

We are too.

You happen to see that wonderful get-together that Trump had with Jerome Powell.

Oh, yeah.

Show Co-host

Yeah,

Caller or Guest

they were

Show Co-host

walking around in hard hats and looking at the building there.

Caller or Guest

Yeah.

Yeah, what was beautiful is Powell just kept shaking his head.

No, no, no, no.

And then if I was Paul, I would have turned to him and said, you know, even if there are crossover runs, we don't deadbeat everybody like you do.

Johnny Gordy (host)

Yeah.

Well, that's true.

I have a cut.

I have that cut, that interaction between Trump and

Caller or Guest

Powell.

Johnny Gordy (host)

Absolutely special.

So why could you play that cut?

Cut 139.

I know everybody's busy doing something else around here, but why don't we just get back to the show.

Cut 139.

This is Trump and Jerome Powell.

Let's listen.

Jerome Powell (clip)

Chairman,

Donald Trump (clip)

come on over.

And we're just taking a look at what's happening.

It's a tough construction job.

They're building basements where they didn't exist or expanding them and a lot of very expensive work.

There's no question about it.

Yeah.

And Tim has been with me for a long time

Tim (caller or participant)

and you're in charge of the committee.

Indeed, one of the reasons I wanted to see it was the overruns of the expenses.

We wanted to figure out why.

Johnny Gordy (host)

What an ask, sir.

Jesus.

Donald Trump (clip)

So we're taking a look and... Yes.

It looks like it's about 3.1 billion.

It went up a little bit.

Johnny Gordy (host)

No.

Donald Trump (clip)

Or a lot.

So the 2.7 is now 3.1.

No.

I'm not aware of that.

Yeah, it just came

Jerome Powell (clip)

out.

I haven't heard that from anybody this

Donald Trump (clip)

fast.

It just came out.

Johnny Gordy (host)

It just came out.

He's

Donald Trump (clip)

got it.

He came out of his mouth.

His coat pocket.

3.1, 3.2.

Johnny Gordy (host)

Pass it along to Jerome.

Yes.

He's going to read

Donald Trump (clip)

it now.

Who does that?

Jerome Powell (clip)

You're

Donald Trump (clip)

including the Martin

Jerome Powell (clip)

renovation.

You

Tony Bennett (guest)

just

Jerome Powell (clip)

added in the third building as well.

That's a third building.

Donald Trump (clip)

It's a building that's being built.

No,

Jerome Powell (clip)

it was built five years ago.

We finished Martin five years ago.

Donald Trump (clip)

Part of the overall work.

It's not

Johnny Gordy (host)

new.

So we're going to take a look.

Five years

Senator Chris Murphy (guest)

old.

Have you ever, Senator Chris Murphy, is a Democrat of Connecticut and he joins me?

Tony Bennett (guest)

You're

Commentator or Analyst

talking about a building within these

Senator Chris Murphy (guest)

five years?

Commentator or Analyst

I didn't see that I didn't see that one yet.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Tony Bennett (guest)

I

Commentator or Analyst

mean, he's not upset about that in part because the clip is so absurd that it is going to get played a whole bunch of times today and it probably will to some extent crowd out this blossoming awful news for him about being included in the episode.

All

Johnny Gordy (host)

right.

So that that's the clip and

Commentator or Analyst

I appreciate

Johnny Gordy (host)

your bringing it up, Dick.

Yeah.

Thanks for the call, Dick.

Yeah.

And I just want to play, you know, just part of this cut where Grok was reprogrammed.

Tim (caller or participant)

See, they can

Johnny Gordy (host)

do anything they want

Tim (caller or participant)

to

Johnny Gordy (host)

AI.

And I truly, I was a big supporter of it.

We wanted to have an AI assistant right here on the program,

Tim (caller or participant)

right?

A visual

Johnny Gordy (host)

one where you could actually watch.

Yes.

We were trying to work that

Show Co-host

yes,

Johnny Gordy (host)

and they had a robotic one at one of the consumer electronic show Displays and we wanted it on the program, but we could not land that deal But

Show Co-host

here

Johnny Gordy (host)

it is this is this is what you can do to AI anybody trusted anymore listen to this, okay?

What cut 49 all right 49 here we go all right

Senator Chris Murphy (guest)

And so we've seen the mixed results like when Grock started hallucinating about so-called white genocide in Elon's native country of South Africa.

Remember for a couple of days or so, the AI bought shoehorn the topic into all kinds of replies, regardless of the original context.

And a couple of weeks ago Musk announced he would be doing a little more tinkering with Grock in order to placate those right wingers who think it fact checks them too much still.

Johnny Gordy (host)

See, I mean, that is what happened.

And they're going to do that now.

All the big billionaires who have all these great AI.

but are going to reprogram them to get rid of reality, get rid of all the wokeness out there, and make it so we hear more of the blaze.

Show Co-host

Or

Johnny Gordy (host)

perhaps all the other alternative media

Show Co-host

outlets.

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Okay, $6.59.

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our seven

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o'clock hour.

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These are the times that try men's souls.

In the course of our nation's history, the people have rallied bravely whenever the rights of men have been threatened.

Today, a new crisis has arisen.

Citizens, hear me out.

This could happen to you.

People think I'm controversial.

But the truth is, I'm a nice guy.

And we're going to have a lot of fun tonight.

I'm upset.

Outraged and angered.

Everything you said was all a lie.

What I say is what I say.

Okay, I want a damn concerted effort.

This is a god-last damn time.

I want somebody to use this fucking brain.

This is a job for John Peterson.

And party!

You're

from the 60s.

I will tell you this is going to be something special.

Something.

Show about nothing.

I don't have any answers for you.

I don't give any views.

I just want to be left alone.

Ponderous, fucking ponderous.

Gordy (Host)

Well, we've got a whole bunch of stories to clear out.

I mean this week has just been jam-packed with them so stick in there.

John (Host)

It's been crazy and

Gordy (Host)

Golan Maxwell we got that coming up in just a few moments a big excuse for Trump

Essentially, and then of course the admission that they they did negotiate Colbert being off the air just on and on we'll get to all these stories in a moment

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going to go out to that Tuesday evening game.

Gordy (Host)

All right, well, let's go to Savannah Tamay Olson.

Yes.

She's on the line.

Do we have her there?

Good morning,

Savannah Tamay Olson

Savannah.

Good morning.

Hi.

Gordy (Host)

How you doing?

Savannah Tamay Olson

Oh, man, what a week.

I know, I know.

Gordy (Host)

What a

Savannah Tamay Olson

way

Gordy (Host)

to wrap it up, huh?

Big retirement announcement.

Oh, no.

What?

Savannah Tamay Olson

Oh, man, we were waiting.

We really thought that was coming last week, but it seems he wanted to wait a little bit.

Yeah.

Gordy (Host)

So a lot of people lining up on that.

Did you hear that Scott Walker might be throwing his hat in the ring

Savannah Tamay Olson

or at

Gordy (Host)

least suggesting that maybe just trying to tweak us out here in liberal land?

Savannah Tamay Olson

with an AI red hat.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

That's

Gordy (Host)

right.

Yeah.

Savannah Tamay Olson

I really wanted that eye in Wisconsin to look a little better.

Gordy (Host)

Me too.

So

Savannah Tamay Olson

what else?

One of the biggest things we're watching, of course, it looks like Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez is launching her campaign today.

So that'll really, you know, number one, there we go.

Yeah.

And then of course we have two Republicans already, but.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this Democratic side of the field shakes out.

John (Host)

Yeah And what else have you got in the headlines?

Savannah Tamay Olson

Well, I feel like we should talk about the Humane Society.

The Humane Society went to the mayor's office and said that they basically don't have enough money to last after August

Unknown Speaker

based on their

Savannah Tamay Olson

contract with Public Health Madison, Dane County.

So that's where they get all of their government funding, which is $390,000 a year.

Meanwhile, the services they provide under that contract cost them $1.3 million a year.

So they've been relying on grants, on funding from the thrift stores, and on private donations from people to be able to keep going.

And they're basically saying, we won't be able to provide any services or take in any strays after August if we don't get an increase in funds.

So we're waiting to see what's going to happen there.

John (Host)

Wow.

That's a big story.

Savannah Tamay Olson

Mm-hmm

John (Host)

as they do terrific work.

Gordy (Host)

Yeah, we have them on the air here a special feature, you know three pets each week and boy, that would be awful.

All right.

Well, something's got to happen.

Yeah

Savannah Tamay Olson

Well, and they help animals from all over the country, but

Unknown Speaker

yeah,

Savannah Tamay Olson

they specifically broke down these numbers

Only for helping animals in Dane County Under their contract terms with public with public health Madison Dane County So basically they're very narrow scope of one little portion of what they do They say they're overall underfunded by two and a half by to three and a half million dollars compared to other humane societies of the

like cities the same size.

So it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

I of course reached out to the mayor's office and haven't heard anything back

Gordy (Host)

yet.

Okay, you know just getting back to this Scott Walker red hat deal.

The thing is make Wisconsin great again is is on the hat.

Is that what it says?

Oh, I didn't

Unknown Speaker

know that.

And

Gordy (Host)

you gotta laugh a little bit because the Republicans have been in charge of

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the

Gordy (Host)

legislature for the last 14 years, right?

So, well, I guess maybe they haven't done such a great job, Scott.

Maybe you didn't either.

So I don't know.

All right, anyway Savannah Savannah Thank you for bringing us the the latest news at least we know at least somebody's throwing their hat into the ring besides Scott Walker and making Wisconsin great again Wow Savannah you have a good weekend.

Savannah Tamay Olson

Thank you

John (Host)

very much

Savannah Tamay Olson

You guys too.

Thanks for having me.

All

John (Host)

right Appreciate that that's Savannah told me Olson.

Gordy (Host)

All right, let's get to Golan Maxwell there apparently cutting a deal right with Trump's

Former attorney well, and she's out there working.

John (Host)

They're gonna talk again today.

Gordy (Host)

Yes,

John (Host)

they didn't

Gordy (Host)

get

John (Host)

it all done yesterday So they got to figure out she's not gonna

Gordy (Host)

say anything and she's gonna walk free and that's basically what's about to happen And they're making a big excuse here.

This is

Unknown Speaker

this is a

Gordy (Host)

well orchestrated attempt by the right-wing media

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to

Gordy (Host)

get behind Trump

So he doesn't have to release any of these papers.

Let's listen to this cut here.

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We do know that Maxwell's attorney emerged from the interview in a good mood.

First, we want to thank the Deputy Attorney General for being so professional with all of us and for meeting with us.

This meeting, the number two at DOJ and a convicted felon in prison is a complete violation of every DOJ protocol or norm, right?

This never happens.

And it comes as we learn more details about Donald Trump's very well documented friendship with Epstein.

As all this pressure has been mounting, we seem to be watching the Trump administration

catch a plot to escape from it right in front of us.

And it's hard to see it as anything else.

This meeting between Blanche and Maxwell looks like a transparent attempt to cut some sort of a deal.

And MAGA media is wish casting a favorable outcome for Trump.

Maybe she wants immunity.

Maybe she wants some sort of protection.

I don't know.

But it's definitely something that is worthy of praise and worthy of our encouragement.

I think this is

great.

I do have a feeling that she has been

She just might be a victim.

She just might be.

There was a rush to judgment.

There was a lot of chaos there for a while.

All right, granted, she hung out with Jeffrey Epstein, and I know that's apparently not good, but she's in jail for how long now?

20 years, a 20-year sentence.

Apparently not

good.

After years of claiming that Epstein was the devil himself and the center of this evil,

widespread global conspiracy that preyed on young girls.

The right-wing propaganda machine is so desperate for Trump to find cover in the scandal.

They are now painting Jelaine Maxwell as an ally, as more of a victim than the hundreds of girls that she helped Epstein prey on, some of whom she assaulted herself.

Gordy (Host)

We're seeing it.

Yeah.

We're seeing

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it.

That's right.

That's from the Crusades show.

Yeah.

Gordy (Host)

Last night on MSNBC.

Wow.

It's amazing.

Charlie Kirk, when he comes out with the talking points.

Yeah.

often see my mega cult member in Milwaukee, posting just what he said and that is how my mega friend thinks now.

He always waits until he's told how to approach these difficult matters.

All right, why don't we get to the big admission from FCC chair, Brandon Carr.

This guy is so partisan, it is beyond my imagination why I didn't notice him before.

He's been.

a commissioner at the FCC for a while.

But while he's spreading his winks, he was proudly bragging that CBS had to cut Colbert.

Listen, this is cut 140.

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Oh, and the conglomerate also happened to cancel NBC's storied The Late Show, hosted by Trump critic Stephen Colbert, that Trump FCC chair is also taking a victory lap and giving up what it's really all about.

Did President Trump have anything to do with the cancellation of Stephen Colbert's show?

Well, here's what's important to keep in mind

is a broader dynamic.

When President Trump ran for election, he ran right at these legacy broadcast media outfits in the New York and Hollywood elites

that are

behind it.

And he smashed the facade that these are gatekeepers that can control what Americans think and what Americans can say.

And once you do that,

you've

exposed the business model of a lot of these outfits as being nothing more than a partisan circus.

NPR has been defunded, PBS has been defunded, Colbert is getting cancer, you've got anchors in news media personalities losing their jobs.

Again, all of this is downstream of President Trump's decision to stand up.

Okay, I have a very direct question.

I did not hear a yes or a no in your answer.

I

heard a maybe.

Yeah, ultimately

these are business decisions for CBS to make.

John (Host)

Yeah, two mates all about the

Gordy (Host)

money.

Trump has exposed the partisan nature of every network that we have on the air and their agenda.

Because it's not his agenda.

So because it's not his agenda, everybody else is wrong and he is right.

And he's going to change all of that and make America's media great again, I suppose.

That is just outrageous.

And now we know.

And I'm amazed that CBS gave.

Colbert at least a year to get all

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of

Gordy (Host)

this out of his system through next May Yeah,

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the daily

Gordy (Host)

show is going crazy.

And of course, you know South Park is a great great episode that everybody is watching online little bits and pieces of it Yeah, a brand new episode.

Yeah,

John (Host)

it just came out for their

Gordy (Host)

new season.

Just an amazing thing.

They're they're showing promos.

They're gonna promote Trump

in ads on South Park and their CGI generated, of course, in AI.

And they

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make

Gordy (Host)

them look real out there naked in the desert doing it for

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Americans.

Whatever

Gordy (Host)

it is he's doing, he's pursuing something out there in the desert.

Oh, yeah, immigrants.

He's doing it for them.

All right.

You know, yesterday, we don't have time for this.

How about this?

Let's get to cut 130.

This is President Trump announcing that he is reducing the price of drugs everywhere.

This is an amazing thing when you think about it.

Okay.

Just do the math.

Here we go.

Unknown Speaker

All right.

We will have reduced drug prices by a thousand percent by eleven hundred, twelve hundred, thirteen hundred, fourteen hundred, seven hundred, six

hundred.

What?

not 30 or 40 or 50%, but numbers, the likes of which you've never even dreamed of before, did it, but they'll try anyway, because they do lie terribly.

Gordy (Host)

Yes, they do lie.

They had to throw that in, had nothing to do with what he was talking about.

Of course, you know, this would be the time for everybody, all Americans go out and buy drugs because you're going to get money back.

They're going to give you hundreds of thousands of dollars back just for asking if you could buy a drug, because that's 1000%.

They've saved you money.

Wow.

Okay.

You're getting

John (Host)

money back.

What

Gordy (Host)

a deal.

John (Host)

For buying drugs.

Yeah.

19 minutes past the hour when we come back, we'll tell you more about the Brew Crew and the Cubs game coming up.

They have a big series in Milwaukee and we've got more tickets to give away because it's free ticket Friday.

I'm John and Gordy in the morning.

Stay with us.

SPEAKER_??

you

John Peterson (host)

I hear about John Peterson on 92 FM, baby.

Yeah.

He works for the guy named Gordian.

I don't know that guy.

Who?

They spin him the way you want to hear them.

Just like that.

Could it be that 92 FM was made for you and me?

Oh, I'd quit.

Yeah.

Every

Gordy (host)

morning.

John Peterson (host)

Every morning.

They get you rollin' Playin' songs Help you make it through your day All this station Peace right on, babe

Gordy (host)

Right on,

John Peterson (host)

babe Now that 92 FM Keeps rockin' this way Ah, with Johnny Peterson You can't lose, man

I keep saying that.

Look out.

Big finish.

Yeah, wrap it up.

And

Russ Claniel (contributor)

you know it's true.

That's Russ Claniel.

He knows.

He knows.

What do you got to say, Russ?

Oh yeah man.

Oh baby.

92.7 WMDX John and Gordy in the morning.

Some

Gordy (host)

clouds this morning.

We'll see some sunshine but we also could be in for a couple of sprinkles highs in the low to mid 80s for today and it's going to heat up over the weekend.

Hey it's free ticket Friday here.

Your chance to win a four pack of Brewers tickets right now.

You can get in on this.

The game is next Wednesday, July 30th versus the Cubs at Ampham Field.

We have a four pack of tickets to get away.

This is a giveaway, I should say.

This is a statewide contest.

The word, the key word to text us is brew, B-R-E-W.

Just get on the Civic Media app.

Text us the word brew and you'll be in the contest.

We'll notify you if you are the winner.

And again, that's a four pack of Brewer tickets to next Wednesday's game.

I believe that's an afternoon game.

So if you're into that, you can text us the word brew and you'll be in the contest.

Russ Claniel (contributor)

Okay.

We heard from Savannah to May Olson that Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez officially has launched her campaign for Governor of Wisconsin highlighting her roots in Wisconsin, years of serving the state, pledging to bring her

Her experience I mean she's an elected leader nurse public health expert small business owner Problem solvers and we don't have problem solvers in the state on the other side of the aisle

John Peterson (host)

So

Russ Claniel (contributor)

this would be a unique situation as well.

So maybe she can make this happen I'm hoping because I'm looking at the Scott Walker hat

that he posted

Gordy (host)

online.

That he's tossed into the ring?

Russ Claniel (contributor)

Yeah, it's a very strange situation.

Walker served as the 45th governor of Wisconsin, and if he were to run again and win in 2026, he would be the state's 47th governor.

And if you see a side view of his hat, he has listed on there 45-47, very much just like Trump somehow.

Okay.

Make Wisconsin...

Great.

Again, even though the Republicans have been in charge for 14 damn years and I can't have a blood.

All right.

Well, okay.

Gordy (host)

Take a deep

Russ Claniel (contributor)

breath.

Okay.

Okay.

Gordy (host)

Relax.

All

Russ Claniel (contributor)

right.

Can I get this story in,

Gordy (host)

or do you have something else?

No, go ahead.

You go

Russ Claniel (contributor)

ahead.

All right.

NPR had this, and I mentioned this yesterday.

Trump's EPA now says greenhouse gases don't endanger people.

Gordy (host)

Oh, is that so?

Yes.

Breaking news.

That's how I

Russ Claniel (contributor)

know.

I know.

Here's a proposal.

The EPA would undo the government's endangerment finding a determination that pollutants from burning fossil fuels can be regulated because they harm and kill people and bring on

natural disasters.

Forget all that.

It's it's simply government overreach really that has been the problem.

EPA administrator Lee Zeldin said we are driving a dagger straight into the heart of the climate change religion to drive down costs of living for American families.

It costs too much to save our own lives and make sure that we don't die of some cancer.

caused by these emissions.

He says he's gonna unleash American energy, bring auto jobs back to the US, even though there be fewer people in the country because they've all died from preventable deaths.

What a great idea.

Could we play cut 139?

Let's play cut 139 here.

Let's get this, the low

John Peterson (host)

down.

I'm sorry 136

Russ Claniel (contributor)

139 I don't must be hallucinating on a coffee again.

You have to stop me

I

Gordy (host)

tried.

You don't listen to me.

I

Russ Claniel (contributor)

know.

You

John Peterson (host)

don't

Russ Claniel (contributor)

listen

Gordy (host)

to me either.

Russ Claniel (contributor)

Well,

John Peterson (host)

there you go.

We've got to take care of this.

I

Russ Claniel (contributor)

know.

We need

Narrator

therapy.

It's called the Endangerment Finding.

And back in 2007, the Supreme Court told the Environmental Protection Agency that it's required to regulate greenhouse gases from fossil fuels such as carbon dioxide and methane.

Then two years later, the EPA determined under the Clean Air Act that those climate heating gases are endangering people.

And that gave the federal government authority to regulate climate pollution.

Previous administrations put limits on coal and gas-fired power plants, car and truck exhaust, and methane from the oil and gas industry.

Now all those regulations could go away if this endangerment finding is overturned.

And the consequences of a warming climate were already...

Seemed those scientists recorded the hottest year on record in 2024.

There's more frequent and severe flooding, including the flash floods around the country this summer.

A destructive wildfires are more likely to happen and hotter oceans are making hurricanes more intense.

But the Trump administration sees a different problem here.

They say efforts to reduce fossil fuel use, increase cost for Americans, but they often don't count the health cost of pollution and that renewable energy is cheaper.

The EPA has been a big focus for the Trump administration.

It's proposed eliminating entire divisions within the agency just last week The EPA said it intends to cut staff up to 25% back to 1980s levels when Ronald Reagan was president

Russ Claniel (contributor)

So that's what's happening and we really don't need to watch that you know because it's a cost that we have to bear, right?

It's called an externality and the corporations really voice this externality on us.

We pay the price, but it's not

It's not in their fees.

They make

Gordy (host)

profits and we die.

29 past the hour.

Rockers in the studio.

Maxing preview and a preview of Atwood Fest.

Next.

Anita (caller)

Anita!

Gordy (host)

Right here on WMDX92.7, check out the Civic Media app.

You can also get us there.

Just select our radio station and listen, text us and voice note us as well.

It's very hot, according to the Gen Z kids that I have at home and the one that we have actually engineering.

producing our show, and that would be dumb.

I can't remember his last name, but it is Lee.

It's Dominic Lee.

Now you can't remember his names.

Three letters, it's not easy

John (host)

to remember

Gordy (host)

that.

We were talking about getting rid of all the EPA laws

John (host)

and rules and

Gordy (host)

regulations and rockers here in the studio came up with a good idea and that is the John and Gordy Shorter Breath Society.

If we just breathe in a little bit less.

Shallow breathing.

Then shallow breathing.

We can save our own lives that way.

Avoid the pollution.

Such a good idea, it's a great idea.

Thank you, Rocker.

Thank you for that.

Rocker (contributor)

Rocker's here for the Maxink preview, but better

Gordy (host)

yet,

Rocker (contributor)

the Atwood Fest preview for the weekend.

We'll get to that in just a moment.

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Okay.

Rocker, this has got to be the busiest.

time of the year for you, right?

John (host)

Wow, it is.

Yeah, it has been crazy.

My list task list has been a mile long, but I keep exiting things off as we get closer and closer and closer.

And today is setup day over on Atwood Avenue.

Lots of stuff coming in today to set up a bit fast.

Well, I

Rocker (contributor)

love the theme of at Whitfest.

Turn it up to 11.

That's great.

Yeah, why not?

It's going

Gordy (host)

to be.

Well, that's a spinal cap

Rocker (contributor)

reference,

Gordy (host)

of

Rocker (contributor)

course, 30.

30 bands, something.

John (host)

30.

30, yep, 30 bands.

And that's a it's a reference to spinal tap because it's great that it's coming out this year.

But at Wood Fest itself is 11 years old this year.

So, you know, it matches.

It matches our kind of stars are in alignment.

And I heard that one of the guys on the design team, he actually plays guitar.

I heard that he has an amp at home that goes to 12.

So we're going to get pictures of that for next year's graphics.

Rocker (contributor)

There you

John (host)

go.

Why not?

perfect.

Rocker (contributor)

Okay.

Well, where do we begin with?

John (host)

Oh, well, we're going to actually we're going to start with just some stuff that's actually going on today.

Today.

Kat Kat in the hurricane.

We know Kat in the hurricane.

Well, they're one of our favorites for Friday, July 25th.

They're at the high noon saloon.

So that's tonight, 7 p.m.

Kat in the hurricane.

They've produced a new song with line and tonight they'll be playing that new song and releasing it with line.

That's a band.

And then they'll be playing with Kiss the

tiger who's from Minneapolis.

You can catch them tonight at the high noon saloon 7pm.

And I thought we'd do a throwback to 2023.

This is cat and the hurricane on my way

Kat from Kat in the Hurricane

back.

Gordy (host)

Well, that's a really nice sound.

Love it.

The cat in the hurricane.

Yeah.

And on my way back, that's from 2023.

Yeah.

Was it on the local charts here, the radio station charts that they have?

Oh, we don't have that anymore.

John (host)

They used to way back when.

Really?

For local music?

Yes, local

Gordy (host)

music used to be on their top 40 charts.

John (host)

What station was that?

Gordy (host)

All the stations.

All the stations had their own local charts, like WCFL, LS.

Sorry about the big stations.

WRIT.

Wow.

Yeah, all the local stations.

John (host)

I'd never heard that.

Yeah.

Gordy (host)

Not even when I was a kid.

Well, now

John (host)

you know, we

Gordy (host)

used to include local groups

John (host)

on these top 40 charts.

You

Gordy (host)

go to the record store and you find out in where your group, local group was on the chart.

It's fantastic stuff.

John (host)

Wish we'd go back, yeah.

That would be fun.

It would.

Oh, wow.

You know, today also, 4.30 p.m.

Friday, July 25th.

So that's today at 4 30.

It's the patio concert series at the high noon saloon continues.

That's free admission.

And tonight is Linda and the zeros.

They're one of my favorite bands with horns.

It's rhythm and blues and lots of fun, high energy.

They are, uh, Linda and the zeros are recording a new EP and it's in the works.

So we'll keep you posted with our new music on maxing radio, uh, coming up on the high noon patio.

Nick Gibson and the Stardazers who played at Atwood Fest last year.

Very fun on the on the on one of our stages.

They'll be there Thursday, August 7th coming up on at High Noon patio right now.

Let's hear Lyndon the zeroes.

This is Black Horse and a cherry tree.

This is a Katie Tunstall cover

Linda from Linda and the Zeros

fell in a field on my back and said don't look back.

Just keep on walking.

When a big black

What a

Rocker (contributor)

great song.

I love

John (host)

it.

Oh yeah, they're such a fun band and they have a lot of, they had a great June.

They played at the Memorial Union Terrace.

They've been playing a lot of really big gigs.

So we're really happy for them.

Then in the zeros right now, though, the family business, they've been a rock band around Madison since 2012 and Thursday, July 31st.

This coming Thursday at the High Noons Loon on the concert series on the patio for 30 p.m.

They have an album single coming out right now that is produced by Kenny Leiser fiddle player for wheelhouse

Find the family ban on Facebook, Instagram, band camp and coming up the high noon patio.

Some other gigs.

Jane Hobson from Chicago.

She is a former Madisonian and she's down in Chicago coming back Friday, August 15th onto the patio and one beer please.

They will be playing at Atwood Fest coming up this weekend on Sunday at noon on the Luther Allison stage, but they're also going to be playing Thursday, August 28th, one beer please.

So we'll be talking about that coming up.

This is love birds.

latest from the family business.

Yeah.

Those guys rock.

The family business.

The family business.

Great band.

They really, they really do.

They groove, they jam, they have great riffs.

I like them.

They're a fun band.

Yep.

All right.

Let's talk at Wood Fest.

Yes.

Right.

Here we go.

This weekend, you guys are going to be there in the WMDX tent.

Right.

Right in the Clyde Stubblefield stage area.

So come down and talk to John and Gordy.

They'll be there, right?

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

Just listen for the yodelers.

We'll be

John (host)

doing our

Gordy (host)

Yodel Act.

I don't know what I'm saying.

John (host)

We've been

Gordy (host)

working on it a long time.

John (host)

I know.

Yodels and Banjo.

Yeah, you'll find them.

Just listen

Rocker (contributor)

for the Yodels.

John (host)

voted Madison's best music festival by the mama's two years in a row.

Fast is Saturday, July 26, noon to 10 p.m.

And Sunday, July 27, noon to 7 30 p.m.

It's on Atwood Avenue.

Of course, the street is closed from the corner of Atwood and Winnebago all the way to Monty's blue play diner 30 bands, three stages.

The Clyde Stubblefield stage, of course, is in the United Way lot.

Luther Allison stage is at the corner of Winnebago and Atwood Avenue and the

Bigger maple stage in the Monty's blue plate line Don't bring your puppers though.

It's gonna be a hot one and we don't want their paws to get burned.

Okay,

Rocker (contributor)

right?

John (host)

My music schedule food craft vendor lists sponsors and more find our AI guide as well festival guide by frilly at atwoodfest.com Let's talk about one of the bands that are coming Jeremiah jams band.

They're from Appleton.

They feature Jeremiah and Emily jams.

What are you doing?

He's just randomly laughing.

Gordy (host)

I was just I was just thinking you were talking about bringing your dogs, you know, yeah, which means we had to cancel the dog wrestling tournament there.

So, uh, you know, I

Rocker (contributor)

guess I didn't

Gordy (host)

see that on the lineup.

It became very dangerous for a lot of the wrestlers.

Dogs had the, had the, uh, had the advantage.

I

Rocker (contributor)

think you're hallucinating again.

John (host)

Okay.

That's why you're laughing over here.

Is it?

Did we drop off the TAC infused coffee?

Somebody spiked John with a gummy or what's going on here?

I think that

Rocker (contributor)

might have happened.

Okay.

Get back on track, Rocker.

Just ignore him.

Okay.

Just keep going.

John (host)

Jeremiah Jams Band featuring Jeremiah and Emily Jams.

They are married.

They're a talented multi-instrumentalist team, and they're celebrating nine years as a band, and they're making a name for themselves in Northeast Wisconsin.

They don't come down here that often, but now is your chance.

They're playing Atwood Fest on the Luther Allison stage Sunday, July 27th at 4 p.m.

Go to www.atwoodfest.com to find the full music schedule.

Right now, Jeremiah Jams Band breaking my mind.

Anita (caller)

you

Gordy (host)

It's so much fun walking around that would best because you know you're hearing all these different bands Yeah, and it's just so cool.

I

John (host)

mean great atmosphere

Gordy (host)

vendors the food the bands It's just it's a great event.

I gotta say last year I enjoyed myself a lot

John (host)

And I mean really strive to make it so that there are great bands no matter which stage you're on So you have to plan for it, right?

Yes, you have to say well, I can only be there

So many hours.

I can only see so many bands, but you can't lose.

You can't see them all.

So there are sacrifices that need to be made.

Rocker (contributor)

Yeah, right.

But

John (host)

this year

Rocker (contributor)

you've got like a special AI site, right?

John (host)

Yes, we do.

We have Festival Guide by Frilly.

So Jorge Arreña, he developed this for us.

And it was fun kind of actually working with making an AI app because, you know, you really get to see the database and what it draws from the information so that you can make things accurate, John.

So if you go

Rocker (contributor)

to AtwoodFest.com, you can find that,

John (host)

right?

Right, good.

Just click on the Frilly Guide, Atwood Fest Frilly Guide to Atwood Fest.

All

Rocker (contributor)

right, we will continue with Rocker with more of a preview of Atwood Fest happening this weekend in Madison Saturday and Sunday.

Be back with more of that after this.

Unidentified speaker

I just want

to let

John (host)

Chuckster and Racine know that we got your text about Scott Walker.

Thank you guys.

Good stuff.

WMDX.

92.7.

We've got Rocker in the studio.

We'll get to more local music in just a second.

And

Gordy (host)

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Okay, rocker on with the Atwood Fest preview.

That's right.

Here we go.

All right.

Turn on rockers, Mike,

Rocker (guest)

please.

Yes.

Please.

Sorry about that, you know.

Oh, good.

I know you guys don't want me saying anything during the preamble.

American Scarecrow's they are a Minneapolis trio singer songwriter Seth David on guitar back by rhythm section Alan Meyer on drums Matthew Broadbent great band low end indie pop fused with folk rock country in Americana they're playing outward fest on the sugar maple stage

headlining at Saturday, July 26th at 6 30 p.m.

Of course, see the full music schedule and ask our AI guide a couple of questions like who's performing at 5 p.m.

or where's the first aid or where can I find fried chicken?

You'll get all your.

You sure can go there festival guide by Frilly.

It's a lot of fun right now.

Let's check out American Scarecrow's.

This is Tall Tales.

SPEAKER_??

you

Rocker (guest)

likes a bunch interest really cool really different they're pretty cool american scarecrows from minneapolis they'll be headlining the sugar maple stage on sunday and david newbold originally he's from toronto now out of nashville an international touring artist singer-songwriter guitarist on tour with wisconsin stops at atwood fest in wasa apple tins mile of music

And then they head to Europe in August.

David Newbold.

That's N-E-W-B-O-U-L-D.

DavidNewbold.com.

Playing Atwood Fest on the Luther Allison stage Saturday, July 26 at 3.15 p.m.

Of course, see the full music schedule and festival guide at atwoodfest.com.

This is David Newbold.

Don't give me your heart.

Unidentified speaker

Don't give me your heart.

I don't want to know.

Well, I have nothing left to sew.

California I don't think so

John (host)

good sounds sounds good yeah that was a kind of a surprise beginning right it sounded very acoustic live and then suddenly bang

Rocker (guest)

well you know I have to choose that right spot of the song you know what I mean that was great we only get a minute

Gordy (host)

right yeah yeah

All right, we're almost out of time, so let's get to a couple

Rocker (guest)

more things here.

Oh, I was just going to say, Fat Function, they are the last band that we're going to be.

You're going to be introducing them from stage on the quiet stubble field stage.

That's 515 on Saturday afternoon.

Just before V05, I might add.

Let's just get right to, we know a lot of these guys, but this is Sweatbox.

This is an instrumental.

This is Fat Function 9B's Horn Band.

SPEAKER_??

OK.

Unidentified speaker

Thank you.

That is one of our intros.

Yeah, I like that a lot.

I think you're right.

It kind of reminds me of Mario Kart music a little bit.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, there's Gen

John (host)

Z charming in.

Gordy (host)

Rocker, we're all out

Rocker (guest)

of time, but we

Gordy (host)

will see you all over at Atwood Fest

Rocker (guest)

on Sunday.

I'll see you guys tomorrow.

It'll be a lot of fun.

Can't wait.

It's

Gordy (host)

going to be fantastic.

We appreciate you coming in.

Give us the preview.

Yeah.

And

John (host)

yeah.

It's going to be fun.

Just adjustable bed frame demonstration.

We're going to bring that along.

Okay.

That's fantastic.

Rocker (guest)

Good idea.

John will be napping at

Gordy (host)

the WMDX 10.

It'll be a lot of fun.

If you want to find out more, go to atwoodfest.com.

Rocker (guest)

That's correct.

All

Gordy (host)

right.

Thanks, Rocker.

See you all weekend.

That's going to do it for us for today.

Stephanie Miller is next.

John (host)

Yeah, somewhere out there, there is a lost first.

Half hour of the John and Gordy show.

It's out there in the ether.

If you could recover it, please let us

Unidentified speaker

know.

Well, the only ones to know.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, it was so good, too.

John (host)

I know.

It's like the best

Gordy (host)

half hour we ever did.

John (host)

And I went on on a limb on it.

Have a great weekend.

See

Gordy (host)

you at Atwood Fest.

So long.

Host

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Probably.

Yeah.

Downpours.

But this should all clear out.

We'll see a high near 90 this afternoon with a lot of sunshine expected later.

Right now it's in the mid-70s.

And we've asked Tom and Christie Manis to stick around for a few more minutes.

We were talking with them just before the break about this book, the historic Wisconsin roadside.

There's just so much in this book.

Yeah.

And so much that you've traveled all over the state.

You know, you

Tom Manis (guest)

seem like we've seen some of the better things.

We couldn't just let you go.

I mean, all the things that you could still tell us.

You know, you know, Historic Wisconsin, you're telling people, you know, hey, try this out, try that out.

But you've also got another book and that is Secret Wisconsin.

Yeah, right.

This is a different.

Look at Wisconsin,

Host

right?

What's the biggest secret that we have

Christie Manis (guest)

in Wisconsin?

The biggest secret?

Well, we have so many secrets in Wisconsin.

I know.

We'll have

Host

to choose from.

Christie Manis (guest)

There's so many more that we have to read about.

But they're secret.

So we

Tom Manis (guest)

can't really tell anybody

Christie Manis (guest)

about

Tom Manis (guest)

it.

Right.

So

Christie Manis (guest)

maybe we should just sit quietly.

Tom Manis (guest)

No.

Let's not get into that.

We'll tell us some of the things

Christie Manis (guest)

in

Tom Manis (guest)

secret Wisconsin.

Unknown Speaker

Yeah.

Christie Manis (guest)

So in Durand, which is where we live now, near us in Eau Claire.

It's about 20 minutes away in downtown.

There's hundreds, maybe thousands of people go past downtown, have no idea what's there.

In the Corral Bar, the owners bought the building next door and to create an event space.

And so they started turning into it and they found this big colorful buffalo behind the, you know, the boards and stuff that are turned out.

And they're like, okay, what's going on?

So he carefully tore it away.

And what happened was there is a 55 foot long by nine foot tall temporary circus poster from the 1880s.

It was only supposed to last about two to two and a half months.

Okay.

And one of the curators at Circus World said that it's the biggest and most preserved circus poster of his kind he's ever seen.

Wow.

And so circus performers, they would travel ahead.

and do the advertisements and they use lithograph paper and they would stamp them as you know advertising obviously.

And so they wouldn't have to come back and take them down.

Host

Wow.

Now I lived in Baraboo for eight or nine years and I've been to Circus World a number of times and they have such a huge collection of that kind of memorabilia these old

Gorgeous posters and of course the circus wagons in there any other historic finds like that in your in your secrets of Wisconsin book

Christie Manis (guest)

a little different But one thing that I think is really cool is down in cut a hay.

I think I'm saying that

Tom Manis (guest)

yeah Yeah, there's

Christie Manis (guest)

an old department store.

It's called dread skis

Tom Manis (guest)

Wow, and

Christie Manis (guest)

it is you it's still is still open mm-hmm, and you walk in and it's like walking back in time They're still selling old stock

Stuff you can buy if you need a leisure suit

from 70s, you can go buy one.

And the original owner still works behind the counter.

At least she did as of like six months ago.

Okay.

And they don't buy any new stock.

It is literally a department store filled with old, old stuff.

Tom Manis (guest)

Where do they get it?

Christie Manis (guest)

I apparently they've

Tom Manis (guest)

had stock

Christie Manis (guest)

and no, no, this

Tom Manis (guest)

is like

Christie Manis (guest)

original stuff.

Host

They still have.

Christie Manis (guest)

Yeah.

Tom Manis (guest)

That's amazing.

Christie Manis (guest)

It is.

And it's big.

It's a big store.

But one of the things with that that fascinates me is they still have the old cash pay system where the

you know, a person at the counter, they take their money and put it in a cup and they send it to the people upstairs in this old metal railway.

No.

And then they make change.

The accounting department makes change and they send it back.

You're

kidding.

You have to drive down there and just go in this department.

This

is

in

Tom Manis (guest)

Cudahy?

Christie Manis (guest)

Yeah,

Tom Manis (guest)

and it's

Christie Manis (guest)

right on, like, the main street.

Tom Manis (guest)

Yeah, this is where I buy my Patrick Cudahy bacon.

Is that right?

That's where you got that leisure suit that I bought.

Yeah, I get a leisure suit.

That's an amazing thing.

I mean, that's something you notice when you're in there, right?

Christie Manis (guest)

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, we had heard about this and thought we had to check it out.

That's one thing we do.

Tom Manis (guest)

We

Christie Manis (guest)

don't look it up online or,

Tom Manis (guest)

you know, right at

Christie Manis (guest)

that way.

We actually go to everything.

Wow.

I mean, to the point where we heard about the Marfa lights not too long ago, a couple of years ago and decided Marfa lights down in Texas,

Tom Manis (guest)

South Texas.

Oh, yeah.

Christie Manis (guest)

So we had to drive all the way down there and check it out.

Tom Manis (guest)

And was it worth it?

Christie Manis (guest)

It was.

Tom Manis (guest)

Oh, definitely.

It was.

Yes.

Yeah.

What is it?

Yeah, nobody knows that's what really I mean sit in the sky It

Christie Manis (guest)

is and I walked away thinking that it's got to be extraterrestrial

Tom Manis (guest)

or

Christie Manis (guest)

something I mean, it's been disputed.

We did a story on it and we researched it and researched it and even

PhDs say there's no explanation for it.

People have tried to disprove it, but different color lights they hover in the air right above the horizon and sometimes they'll split and they kind of slowly dance and then they'll disappear and then they'll reappear again and at one point we counted 11 at the most and you know we're skeptics so we're like we kept going back we went back early in the morning like four o'clock in the morning we went back you know the next night and they were still there and we found out we were so lucky because most people don't see them.

This

is the kind of stuff we do though.

We love to get out and see what we can find and find out the answers and figure out the why.

Tom Manis (guest)

Is there like a secret here in Madison or around Madison that we should know about?

Or at least you know an adventure that people could take in Wisconsin in Madison or

or nearby.

What do you guys

Christie Manis (guest)

know about Gravity Hill?

Tom Manis (guest)

Well, is this in the

Host

Dells?

No.

This is the old Wonderspot.

No,

Christie Manis (guest)

no,

Host

come on.

The thing was nuts.

No

Christie Manis (guest)

Wonderspot, they have like six places in the country.

Tom Manis (guest)

Aren't all Hills and Gravity Hills where you fall and you're rolling down the hill?

Christie Manis (guest)

Okay, out in Schultzburg, not too far from Madison.

Tom Manis (guest)

Okay,

Host

yeah,

Christie Manis (guest)

yeah.

On a country road, you park your car on the country road, and Gravity pulls it uphill.

Oh,

no.

Like there's

little elves pushing

you.

No,

seriously.

Yeah.

And so there's a blue sign that gives you instructions, and it's right outside the city limits.

It's right there.

And so you put a neutral, and we're not talking about just slowly rolling.

I mean, we were up to like five miles an hour rolling.

I mean.

In

skeptics that we are, we went back like.

two or three times and spent time there doing all different angles.

Tom Manis (guest)

It's an optical illusion.

I mean, you could be actually uphill or downhill.

That's

Christie Manis (guest)

so cool.

Tom Manis (guest)

You have to do it.

I mean, what a

Christie Manis (guest)

great thing to take a carload

of kids

to, you know,

and freak them out.

Yeah.

Yes.

Not explain it.

I know.

One time we were there and we had to wait in line because people were over on the side of the road waiting.

Right.

Right.

It's like a cornfield.

OK.

We got time

Host

for a couple more there.

There's one here that I want to find out.

You say somebody, the original Butterburger is not where we think it is.

Christie Manis (guest)

Okay, where do we think?

Is this Culver's?

Okay, so this is a place you really have to check it out.

You have to see this in person.

Okay, so 1936, isn't 30s of blue 36?

Solly's Grill in Glendale.

So they say they have the original Butterburger.

So obviously skeptics, you know, we have to check out.

So they have the butter is actually cooking on the grill.

They put the burgers on and then they steam it with onions and then they take the bun.

Now, before they take the bun, they take, they have just, you know, stacks and stacks of one pound blocks of butter.

Of course, this Wisconsin, you know, thank goodness.

Okay.

Not hard to find butter.

Yeah.

And so what they do is they put it room temperature, then they put an old fashioned milkshake machine with the metal cup and they whip it really good, you know.

Oh, beautiful.

Okay.

And then.

Then they take it when the, right before the burger is done, they take it and it's just like icing.

They have a like an icing spreader.

They dip it in and they put it in.

It must be like three inches thick on the top.

They spread it on the top of the bun.

And so then they put the burger on, they put the top on, and then the butter melts on top.

And it's just like the burger, and they have these special plates that fit it just right.

So, but the butter melts and it's like the burger is sitting in a moat of butter.

Tom Manis (guest)

It's like

Christie Manis (guest)

this deep.

I was gonna say, it seems like a wet burger that's healthy.

They cut it in half to help you though.

Well, that's helpful, yeah.

Wow.

All

Tom Manis (guest)

right.

That seems like a unhealthy thing to eat on a regular basis.

Slightly.

Christie Manis (guest)

Yeah.

It's amazing the amount of people that are there for it.

Oh,

Tom Manis (guest)

yeah.

Everybody there ordered it.

Yeah.

I mean, it was crazy.

Now, that's just north of Milwaukee, right?

Right.

Christie Manis (guest)

Here's another cool thing.

Tom Manis (guest)

Okay.

Christie Manis (guest)

Up in the northwest corner in a town called Luck, they used to make the Dunkin' Yoyos.

Host

Oh, sure.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Christie Manis (guest)

And there's a museum there.

I mean, there's nothing else, really, but there's

Tom Manis (guest)

a museum.

They have a yo-yo

Christie Manis (guest)

museum?

Yeah, the world's largest yo-yo is

Tom Manis (guest)

there.

Oh, I love it.

I have so many dunking yo-yos at home.

The world's largest.

It's just unbelievable.

Do you have a

Christie Manis (guest)

pink one?

Tom Manis (guest)

I have a pink one.

I have a speckled black speckled one and one that actually lights up.

And one is kind of a butterfly shape.

Christie Manis (guest)

Yeah.

Tom Manis (guest)

Yeah, I

Christie Manis (guest)

love

Host

those.

Those are easy to equip.

Well, how big is the largest yo-yo?

Tom Manis (guest)

Oh.

Chest high, waist high.

Unknown Speaker

OK.

OK.

Tom Manis (guest)

Wow.

Well, we were talking about your swatch off the air, and you have a collection of swatch watches as well.

I do.

I collected watches for a

Host

like.

You collect a lot of things along the way?

Tom Manis (guest)

Yeah.

You must be big souvenirs, right?

A lot of stuff around the

Host

house.

Christie Manis (guest)

No.

We used to, we do a lot of international trips, so we pick up a little thing here or there.

We

just

picked up something new on an international trip, actually.

We did.

We were in... Is a total

surprise.

Yeah, total surprise.

We got a bill in the mail last week.

We drove where we shouldn't have in Italy.

Oh,

Host

what happens?

What do you

Christie Manis (guest)

mean?

We had rented a car and we went to a town called Luca and...

We didn't know that you weren't supposed to drive cars in the central square, which a lot of towns over there do that.

Without a permit.

They had a little parking area with about 10 cars, and we were looking for a place to park.

So we

got a ticket in the mail.

We've

been

telling everyone to be careful,

because

it was $58 euro.

We thought it was a scam at first, because on our WhatsApp, we don't use WhatsApp, but when you're in Europe, you do.

And so we got this notification, this charge on your credit card.

I'm like, whatever.

A scam.

The next morning, she said, hey, our credit card was charged.

I'm like, what?

So I started looking into it.

And it's all in Italian, you know.

And so I had to copy it, put it in translator, and then it said the location.

And I said, were we ever at this place?

So we're all looking at Google Maps.

Skeptics that we are.

Our son pulls it up on Street View, and we're like.

Oh yeah, we were there and there's the big X. Huge sign.

Huge sign with X's and we thought, well maybe it means don't park.

We don't speak

Tom Manis (guest)

any Italian, not a word.

But you said there were parked cars there.

Yeah,

Christie Manis (guest)

you can buy

Tom Manis (guest)

a permit.

Live and learn, right?

Yeah,

Host

I guess so.

You never go back there.

So we got time for one or two more.

favorites of yours.

As

far

as historic stuff, what have you gone back to see because you didn't get enough the first time?

Anything that you want to see again?

Oh, there's so much.

Christie Manis (guest)

Oh,

yeah.

The state is so full.

I mean, we have a list of over 500 things for a second edition of a secret.

We have 1,400 in this first one.

Yeah.

And it's always, I mean, I keep lists all the time.

And we find something, I'll add it.

Yeah.

So it's...

You know, right here, right in your backyard, the Capitol.

Okay.

I think it's fun to go there and look for the fossils.

Host

The fossils.

Christie Manis (guest)

A lot of people don't know about that, but there's fossils in the marble, in the granite,

Host

in the can.

Oh, I have heard,

Christie Manis (guest)

yeah.

There's something about this.

Yeah, and if you go in on the main floor, you can talk to the desk, and they'll give you a list of where they're at and

Tom Manis (guest)

what they look

Christie Manis (guest)

like, and then go around the Capitol and find them.

Great thing for kids, free.

Tom Manis (guest)

They actually have a map?

Christie Manis (guest)

Yeah.

Tom Manis (guest)

Wow, okay, that's something

Christie Manis (guest)

for

the kids to do.

And they're

kinda,

I

mean, we enjoyed looking for them.

It was something different.

And she mentioned free.

Our secret Wisconsin you can experience everything in the book for sixty four dollars and eighty cents.

We like free stuff Yeah,

Host

everything in the book for that

Christie Manis (guest)

you can experience everything in the book sixty four dollars and eighty cents

Host

Okay, name of that book a secret Wisconsin, right a guide to weird wonderful and obscure and then yeah

Christie Manis (guest)

this this

Host

good go ahead

Christie Manis (guest)

on the cover

Host

Yeah,

Christie Manis (guest)

this little boy with the boot.

Host

Yeah

Christie Manis (guest)

is in Steven's point and there's kind of a neat story about that.

It's been there since 1800s

and it's in front of a fire department, the main fire department, and people drive by all the time and never ever see it.

Because they put it away in the summer, or they put it away in the winter when the students are there.

Tom Manis (guest)

Yeah, okay.

Because they'll steal it.

They'll steal it.

It gets vandalized.

Yeah.

Interesting.

This is just unbelievable.

It really is.

Host

Tom and Kristi Manus, thank you for joining us.

You're planning my next vacation in Wisconsin.

Sounds good.

Give me a call.

Very good.

Great to have you in.

Again, your book is available everywhere.

Books are sold, right?

Christie Manis (guest)

It is.

Amazon.

Little luxuries.

Thanks

Host

for

Christie Manis (guest)

having

Host

us.

It's great having

Christie Manis (guest)

you.

Again,

Host

safe travels to you, and we'll talk to you again sometime.

Tom Manis (guest)

Yeah.

Definitely happy to have you

Host

back.

Yeah, love to have you back.

19 Pass the Hour, coming back with more on John and Gordon.

John

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John

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Note us and we'll play it back on the air.

Gordy

Yeah, you just get on the civic media app and get on the WM DX part of that app and push the button that says voice note and you can send us a voicemail It's 23 minutes past the hour beautiful weather for today and two points are low and so humidity is also low and high this afternoon about 80 degrees Right now it's 59 here

And let's check in with Pam Yonkey, the fabulous farm babe.

Good morning Pam, how are you?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Morning guys, morning, yeah, not too bad.

This is pretty comfortable compared to what I think we're gonna be living with later this week.

Gordy

I know, it's supposed to heat up by Wednesday, so we'll

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

take it

Gordy

for today, yeah.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Yeah, yeah, for today.

The it's always like this.

There's certain events.

You know how we always talk about when it's boys basketball state finals, there's always a nice storm or some kind of nasty weather.

Every time the Rock County fair happens, there's this kind of heat.

Those poor folks, I could just

If you, if you want to lay down money in Las Vegas bet on 90 for the Rock County fair, you are, you are going to see a return on your investment.

I'd love to know if they could handicap that.

So

Gordy

that's happening this week, right?

They

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

should change the time they hold

Gordy

it, you know?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Yeah, right.

Yeah, you're right.

They are going to be bringing everything in starting today.

And some of the judging on some of the projects that go home will also start today.

But like I said, for the most part, the real action gets started closer on Wednesday.

Gordy

And now there's another county fair going on, the Columbia County Fair up near Portage.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Yeah, that'll get started again later this week with a lot of activities.

That's pretty easy fairgrounds to find right off the main drag up in Portage.

So yeah, I'm trying to figure out exactly what my staff and I are going to

to have the time to do.

We've got a FFA foundation goal folding today and I'm glad that the weather is going to cooperate and be halfway decent today because like I said later this week it could get challenging again.

Farmers are going to have to do their best job trying to take care of their livestock themselves of course and just mitigate anything they can for the heat.

Unknown Contributor/Caller

Isn't there a fair out there someplace, the World's Fair?

What is it, the Lodi World's Fair?

They call it the World's Fair.

They don't settle for a county.

I don't

Gordy

think so.

Unknown Contributor/Caller

I thought there's one out there someplace.

John

It's

Unknown Contributor/Caller

called Lodi Agricultural

John

Fair.

That's not

Unknown Contributor/Caller

it.

Maybe I just have the wrong time.

Richland Center World Fair.

I think you're making

Gordy

stuff

John

up.

Okay, well,

Unknown Contributor/Caller

okay, I'm gonna stop trying.

I know there are a lot of other cities I could just put in that place, but I'm not gonna do it.

All right, well, that's good to know.

How did the Dean County Fair go?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

You know, I think it turned out really well.

Like I said, I had some real concerns about weather on Saturday morning for our Farm Babe Boogie tractor parade,

John

but that

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

all ended up to be not an issue because my tractor drivers figured after the rain moved through in the morning, they loaded up and showed up.

And I really want to say thank

John

you again

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

to all of them that made the extra effort.

You know, I don't, and for people that saw us at the fair, just stop and think that.

that cost those people money to load those tractors.

Diesel is not cheap these days.

Just finding somebody that's got a CDL to drive some of those rigs in is a stretch and they receive nothing from me except a free pork sandwich, a 4H potato from the potato stand and cheese curds or cream puffs from the Storten FFA alumni.

So there are no high stakes game if you know what I'm saying.

And I just really appreciate them making the time and the effort to

to come and join us for that quick pray.

But boy, the kids sure love it.

I'll tell you.

One of my guys, Bill Mitchell, from by McFarland was busy, busy, busy.

He lets kids climb on his tractor and, you know, get a feel for it.

And every little, every little kid, boy or girl, seemed to want to all of a sudden be a tractor

Gordy

driver.

Well, glad it went well.

It was raining earlier in the morning.

We were going to come out and see you, but,

Unknown Contributor/Caller

you know,

Gordy

checked in with you, but oh well.

Unknown Contributor/Caller

John and Gordy melt in the rain, so we could not

Gordy

be

Unknown Contributor/Caller

there.

Hey, you know, you mentioned... I was sold tickets for that.

You mentioned that there's a, you know, sweet corn is like on the horizon for all of us.

How's the sweet corn crop looking this year?

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Well, I think we'll know a little bit more, maybe as soon as midweek, everybody knows that we made, we pretty much made knee high fight by 4th of July.

But here's a couple little things that you may not realize.

The fields that you drive past, I think we might have talked about this before, the fields that you drive past, when you see corn in a field, chances are that is corn only for cows.

There's a distinct difference between the type of corn that we grow for cows, for livestock feed, and the sweet corn that you and I consume.

That will generally have a finer stock.

It will generally

be a little bit shorter on the top of the plant will be a very, very light in color.

thing.

You get closer, take a when you buy your sweet corn on a corn cob, always have a corn cob always have an even num

Take a look at your corn cob when you pick it this year as you're mowing around it with your teeth.

Try to keep count and you'll find that it's always an even number.

Also, Sweet Corn has about 800 kernels.

in 16 rows.

That's an average, just an average.

You might see some more, some less, but that's kind of an average.

And like I said, remember that corn is pretty much grown everywhere in the world, not necessarily sweet corn, but corn is grown everywhere in the world except Antarctica.

That is courtesy of my friends from the corn growers telling me all that kind of fun stuff this morning.

But it could be coming a week, boys.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

It's a little bit later than usual, but we should be getting it.

All right,

Unknown Contributor/Caller

excellent.

Well, great, great news about

Corn.

Sweet corn.

I had

Gordy

no idea.

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Corn trivia.

Here you

Unknown Contributor/Caller

go.

I'm going to be testing my corn cobs now.

Pam, you have a

Gordy

great day and a great week.

We'll talk

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

to you on Friday.

Gordy

All right.

That's Pam

Pam Yonkey (Fabulous Farm Babe)

Yocke.

Thanks, fellas.

Pam Yocke,

Gordy

the fabulous farm babe.

Great stuff.

With the Midwest Farm Report, which is actually right around the corner, and then we'll be back with the idiocracy on John and Gordy in the morning.

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WMDX, John and Gordy in the morning.

And in just a few moments, we'll be talking to Jim Santel, big decision from the Supreme Court.

We'll be talking about that in just a few moments.

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Jim, welcome to the program.

We were on yesterday afternoon.

This decision was not.

Made at that point.

Yeah, we had some stuff.

Yeah, we've got a new thing to talk about and it's a huge Decision Jim what the heck is going on here?

This is he's just you know, it's like striking you know like bowling Hitting strikes every time he goes to the Supreme Court

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

Right exactly and this is not new Regrettably, but it certainly is a part of the overall trend if you will from the Supreme Court

And it sounds fairly wonky again, but it's an important group.

It's called the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

These are the folks who keep everything safe and secure, from toys to batteries, all kinds of things in the household.

And so we know that a number of months ago, three of the commissioners had decided to cast some votes to stop the import of poorly made lithium ion batteries and objecting to some staffing cuts.

That draws the attention of my president.

and he terminates them or tries to.

And that's the most important point.

They appeal this as they rightly can under the theory that president has no capacity legally, congressionally to do this, can't fire commissioners.

And lower courts agree with that.

They know it's got to be reinstated.

Supreme Court just yesterday says, nope, once again, the president does have this capacity to do it.

He is the commander in chief.

He is the Constitution vests the executive power.

in the president without any more reference than that.

John (host)

That's

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

not good.

Go ahead and fire them.

This once again, as we have talked in this broadcast repeatedly, emergency docket, shadow docket, no reasons simply giving Donald Trump permission to do the illegal thing that he is doing when it comes to these and other folks.

John (host)

This is outrageous.

I don't even know how to approach something like this.

You know, they did mention that these are three democratic

Yes.

Individuals.

And using politics in the reasoning, you would think somewhere along the way that would be a first amendment issue, wouldn't it?

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

It should be all.

All amendments, but yes, absolutely.

All amendments, yeah.

Right?

Right?

It's just in the names of Murray Boyle, Richard Trumka, Alexander Hunsarek.

And again, even though, again, they've got those partisan backgrounds,

They come to this as do all these folks, as commissioners.

They don't do things that are political, overtly partisan in nature, right?

They do things to keep us safe and secure.

That should be an issue that crosses parties, Republicans and Democrats, and it has been.

Not to say that they have not disagreed with things, but what you do is you strip this institution of its ability to do its job.

We know that the Supreme Court also said when it comes to the thing called the Merit Systems Protection Board, the National Labor Relations Board, all these things, where the president also stripped those folks, stripped the commissioner of some folks, commission of those participants.

Again, giving him the authority just because he's the president, it's the Constitution and saying go ahead and do it.

the other piece of this once again, shadow docket.

We've got no explanation for it.

And yet, there we are.

There we are once again.

John (host)

No, it wasn't that commission on this board, the consumer product safety commission, wasn't it split up equally?

It was like Democrats and Republicans, right?

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

Sure, that's exactly how this is typically done.

Their appointments made to ensure that if there's any concern,

about this being partisan in nature that you've got roughly equal representation.

Exactly.

It's not perfect, of course.

It never is because you've got human beings here.

But again, the concept, which I think, John, you're all over here, is these are people, yes, appointed from those pockets, if you will.

But the question of whether or not a particular toy is safe for toddlers

Is that really something that's on the partisan agenda of one party?

No, it should be everybody, right?

And again, the issues that they deal with are to keep us safe and secure.

The President doesn't like what you do.

You run a file of him.

And also, you're critical of staffing cuts, which is the other part of this.

And the answer is, you're gone.

And that is the United States of America endorsed by our Supreme Court.

that we're living in in 2025, at least three of these so-called independent agencies.

I know you've talked about this as well.

This unified executive theory, this is it in practice.

This is, I am the law.

Again, I'll quote Louis XIV, let's say, moi, I am the law.

I can do whatever I want.

And we're seeing it yesterday once again.

This is not a future problem.

This is here right now.

Gordy (host)

Just outrageous.

Jim, isn't the Supreme Court supposed to be on vacation now?

Aren't they done?

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

Give us a break.

Come on.

I will tell you, I teach a class at the local university here.

And they keep saying to me, I thought we had the last of this back in June when you told us about those 67 cases.

And I said, yeah, they're still

Again, showing up for work, which they should.

I think your point, Gordy, is just more that, gosh, can't you just work on your assignments for the fall and put together the term paper that describes what you did over the summertime and come back and do this?

They do not.

And again, it indicates that, again, that's the merit stock.

Now we've just, we're in this situation where routinely, by my count, somewhere approaching, if not beyond 20.

different emergency orders since January.

And we're just going ahead, July, August, September, and then October we start all over again.

This is not typical for what a Supreme Court does.

And again, let the underlying litigation go ahead.

Let the lower courts have the trials and have the appeals.

That's how our system works.

Nope.

Run to the court on an emergency application.

from the Department of Justice, and you will get six members of our Supreme Court who will say, go ahead, do what you want.

Even while the underlying claims by these parties are unresolved, no judgment below.

What more outrage can there be about these kinds of things?

John (host)

Well, Mark, in a prayer to sack, wants to throw his two cents in with this comment,

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

the

John (host)

shadow docket sounds a lot like the courts that are founders in the Declaration of Independence listed as one of the indictments against King George's courts.

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

Right.

Absolutely.

You look back.

I happened to post some portions of the Declaration of Independence on Independence Day, not identified by many people who are looking at that, but that's Marx exactly right.

You're exactly right.

Noting that one of the concerns was just about doing things.

They didn't use the word transparency.

One of the concerns with King George was, tell us what you're doing.

Do these things in a way that gives us due process and give us a feel that even if the judgment against us is bad, we don't like it.

that we've had our shot in court.

And we know what the judges are doing.

That's a democracy.

And of course, that's not what we had at the starting of this nation as colonies.

That's what we're supposed to have now.

And then again, you think about that hilarious but very sobering portion of Hamilton, where you have that comical King George coming forward and saying, you'll be back and singing that.

You wait and see.

And indeed,

We appear to be if not completely back pretty darn close to being exactly what we had at the time of the Declaration of

John (host)

Independence It almost seems like the courts of our land don't mean anything at all They can make all the decisions they want and if you get it into the Supreme Court's area they negate

every damn decision these courts are coming up with and they're making sense they're actually reading the Constitution they're telling us why they're making these decisions with even long decisions you know 80 page decisions and yet the Supreme Court does whatever the hell it wants at this point you know we should have been at least

I guess they tip their hand when they got rid of the Chevron decision.

That was one of the major decisions, things that the Republicans did not like for so many decades and where they left departments up to handle what Congress intended to pass as far as laws are concerned for each like the EPA or whatever else, the Department of Education, they intended.

certain things to happen in those departments and the departments had control of that and they got rid of that and then they throw that through the decision into the lower courts to make the decisions for them instead of using expertise, they use the legal system.

to come up with the end

Jim Santel (legal analyst)

result.

And we use, we use, you don't want me, you don't want Jim Santel deciding major issues about, about engineering and medicine and science and all kinds of things.

I know a very little bit about a thing about this wide or so.

And yet if my gut tells me that there's something wrong with the lower court decision, that's enough.

that too.

It's all a part of this overall.

It is, as you mentioned, Project 2025.

It is chipping away at the confidence that Americans have always had even in an imperfect system.

Nobody looks at this system and says, oh, it's every single day they're doing absolutely the right thing, but we've got the checks and balances.

We no longer have that.

Interestingly, if I can throw another thing out on the table here.

We also had, speaking about those lower court judges, you had a couple of judges also yesterday, big news day in rule of law things.

You had a couple of judges, one in Tennessee, one in Maryland.

We've talked about the Maryland judge before.

This has to do with Kilmer, Amando, Abrego Garcia once again.

He is ordered released.

He is ordered released by a judge named Waverly Crenshaw who says,

government has put a poor attempt together to tie a brago to this gang, MS-13.

He orders him released as he is not a danger to the community.

And then, and that's on the underlying criminal case.

Remember this, he's indicted.

And then he got Judge Zinnis, who's in Maryland.

She is handling the immigration case within minutes, maybe even seconds.

She issues another order and says, oh, by the way, if you are thinking of going and picking him up and deporting him now that he's no longer in custody, don't you dare.

That happened yesterday, within minutes of each other, two different jurisdictions, a Brego Garcia.

And again, it shows what the lower court judges are doing candidly to protect not just a Brego Garcia, but the fundamental notion of how these things should work.

And it's no small thing that it happened again yesterday.

We will see what the government does, Mr. Brego Garcia, plainly in the target.

We also have this outrageous situation.

where the Justice Bretman is saying that if, in fact, he is released, even while he's under indictment, they'll deport him again.

That's the kind of thing that's going on from our time.

So it's just wild.

But we do have lower federal judges, to the extent that they can, who are still saying, you know what, the Constitution means something.

We need to support them candidly and let them know that we are supportive of, if not the substance of the decisions, the method that they pursue in their

Gordy (host)

work.

All right.

Jim we will take a

John (host)

break here and stay with us back with more.

Gordy (host)

Yeah, we'll have more right after this on Johnny Gordy in the morning

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Kramer's book is the Politics of Resentment. Oh, yes. And Arlie Haaschild's first book is Strangers in Their Own Land. And in that case, she tells one story about a guy working for a chemical company who is a trunk supporter. And one of his jobs was to take the chemicals and dump them in the swamp, thus poisoning.

The Bayou is the very place where he lived, where his family and friends were dependent upon recreation and food. And yet he was a Donald Trump supporter. And that's logical, but you read her books and you start to get an understanding of

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And, you know, basically says, I'm going to stop these people from getting in line ahead of you. Yeah. Ronald Reagan did the same thing. And so this is a problem for the Democratic Party, excuse me, because it really needs to bring together working people of all races in a common movement to bring greater equity to our society for everybody. Right.

And they frame it in a way that the Democrats are always giving handouts to these people and that's the problem. They want freebies. So they kind of turned it.

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