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I don't think they have.
And this is their wet dream.
And you wouldn't imagine that the Supreme Court...
would go along with something like this just because there's a list of conservative things that they've wanted to do the last 50 years you wouldn't think that the Supreme Court these justices who only look at the law and how it's written would go along with a political agenda like this but boy have they wow good morning it's almost breathtaking okay
Okay,
You're not unfamiliar with my famous French toast, but what I do is I make normal French toast.
But as I am frying the first side, I sprinkle cinnamon on the top.
And then when I flip it over, the cinnamon becomes grilled, fried.
Yeah, nice patina on the French toast.
And I had to slip it in.
And it tastes great.
But I think I use actual maple syrup.
And I think that stuff jazzes me up just a little bit.
But this isn't the first morning I've done this either.
OK.
So
And you know how a lot of these movies made in Wisconsin, poke fun at Wisconsin, the Green Bay Packers and cheese, they make fun of it, but they do it in a great way.
I mean, it's very dry, good sense of humor.
The quality is just, you know, fantastic.
Big thumbs up.
It's a huge thumbs up so far halfway through the movie.
We could be in for some showers and scattered thunderstorms at times.
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Yeah.
It looks like we're going to get some rain.
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We're going to talk to Tim Slecker in a little while.
Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils.
Get the latest on whatever's going on in the world of education.
And also Abby Abramovich.
She's from Downedrens Distilling.
And she'll give us an update there.
We've got something in the works with her and we'll reveal a little bit of that a little bit later on.
And Jim Santel will join us again.
Seems like we just talked to him yesterday.
But we're going to talk to him again.
Oh, that was when we were filling in for Maggie Dawn.
Yeah.
So,
Yeah.
Supreme Court's very busy.
They just never take a break anymore.
13 minutes past the hour, should we get into what's, really?
What's the thing is?
What would you rather do?
What would you rather not do?
Would you rather do or not do?
Would you rather not do?
Okay.
All right, let's hear some reverb.
Go
See a little face.
A little would you rather knowledge from John?
You should have added reverb to that.
All right, second question.
Would you rather go a year with no hair or go a year with no fingernails at all?
This one's harder.
This one is definitely harder.
Definitely harder than the first one.
Yes.
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There you go.
Exactly.
That'll be fun.
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Stay on the line for a couple of
Yeah, we got some important stuff to get to with Tim Schlecker from Busted Pencils.
We'll be talking again about AI.
They're really on this thing.
Yeah.
And we'll also be talking about Christopher Rufo, who is known mostly for CRT.
Okay, okay critical race theory and and of course he's a broad net to DEI and everything else So we'll be getting into that Manhattan Institute.
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And yet she gets out there in front of the cameras.
You know, the person that really bothers me is Tulsa Gabbard, okay?
Oh yeah.
She is just, this is a showboat of showboats.
She came out.
Had a press conference yesterday or was it or the day before
just stunning oh Yeah, and people just you know we're falling all over themselves trying to figure out what to say to her.
She was so stunning No, she
She's all presentation with no content whatsoever.
I can't understand how Well, anyway, I guess I can't understand how anybody is in the administration They're they're all completely unqualified and yet they're out there.
They're doing their thing
now I understand that they but there's also the house is involved and you know the yeah Congress and they took a vacation well, they're
But there's word out today that they have subpoenaed Bill and Hillary Clinton.
So we're really going back in time.
What says Bill and Hillary Clinton subpoenaed according to the New York Post.
Mark.
Yeah, just keep on flinging, and then maybe something will stick.
because of the Supreme Court, and Joe Biden and Barack Obama are both, they can just claim, well, this was just under our official duties, so we're immune from anything, and
don't
it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it is just, it is just beyond what they think they're gonna accomplish, because they're just serving Donald Trump, and they all hate, you know.
Yeah.
And they're fortunate that if indeed, as I think I've said before, if indeed the Justice Department was indeed weaponized against Donald Trump, Donald Trump would not be a free man right now.
They would have just ignored the courts as acid be in jail.
They just don't seem to get it.
I mean, Donald Trump is Mr.
it's against everybody and that he still claims that I mean poor little Donald Trump.
What the heck?
He's turned the White House into a pale copy of Versailles with the old leaf everywhere.
I
It really looks
a
It just looks tacky.
Oh, tacky.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not even attractive except to, you know, that then
It's not supposed to it's not supposed to look like you know mere log was in the White House.
It's not supposed to look like a palace for goodness sakes President is not a king
but apparently the anti-federalists were right and this is what the presidency is gonna be with a with a man You know like I've said before so I'm federalist 67 Hamilton said oh, no the president is not gonna be a you know imperial president It's not he's not gonna be sitting in his office surrounded by minions and mistresses and
now have his murderous genoceries.
And, uh, of course he does have his murderous genoceries now, which is ace.
be going, not all going killing people, you know, right and left, but I mean, there's certainly, well, that's next.
Died in custody now.
uh, you can meet like animals out of out of dishes with their hands, you know, zip tied behind their backs.
You mentioned that
their hands.
I mean, alligator
Auschwitz.
I mean, it's nothing more than a concentration camp because it might look a little cleaner than those, but it's just because it's made out of metal rather than wood like Nazis had.
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I had a
I don't know.
Well, for example, right now, you know, I'm
pretty sure that this John that I'm talking to is not really John because I mean the image of you shows you with a Barbie t-shirt.
Well he's a big fan.
that has to be an AI creation.
You would never wear a
a Barbie t-shirt.
Yeah, it
No, I don't know if it's the distrust.
I think what we were trying to say is that, you know, this reality of...
acknowledging that what what AI can produce is can really deceive people and that deception is turning
What I worry about is some people getting to the standpoint of saying, you know, well, I don't believe in anything anymore.
I don't believe anything's true.
I don't, you know, I know for sure somebody's always lying to me.
And, you know, living in a democracy where we're supposed to have some form of trust and particularly in our institutions, which we already know trust in the institutions of this country are low right now.
And so.
AI, how that's contributing to that distrust, we worry about it.
I mean, there was another piece just talking about also the kind of distrust students and teachers and faculty are having back and forth with each other.
Faculty and teachers aren't sure when kids are using it and they're worried.
Kids are concerned that teachers are accusing them of using it when they're not.
You know, I'm not distrustful of that.
There was a point though And I don't know if you heard of Johnny and I talking about this in the the article article we were citing I forget there's actually quite a bit of research now starting to come down on this idea of trust but There was a thing about saying well if you use AI do people start to look at you
Well, you must not be that intelligent if you need AI to help you.
Yeah,
You know, and for me, I was sitting there going, I'm like, okay, so I think that my use of AI is really contributing to me being more productive, making things more, you know, kind of.
just creative, I can get things done faster, and never popped into my mind that people might be looking at me going, well, you know, I mean, he uses AI.
Yeah, yeah.
Not, yeah, you know, I mean, he.
Take an easy way out to him, you know.
Yeah, you know.
And I was just like, wait.
I thought people looked at me funny, you know, for all kinds of reasons.
Yeah, but, you know, and, you know.
You guys were, you guys were talking about that and it just seems like, you know, the AI thing could be a lazy way to do things, but I think Johnny brought up the fact that people may use it just for the more menial tasks, you know, the things that are just, you know, normal everyday task worthy things that you have to do anyway.
So it could do that, get that out of the way while you do the better research, the more in-depth personal research, right?
Yeah.
I mean, think about this.
I'm working on something right now that I need to put together a budget and a timeline for completing a project, right?
I use AI, I describe the project, I put it down and I'm like, you know, here's the budget number we're shooting for.
And I said, you know, give me a hypothetical budget and a hypothetical timeline.
And, you know, it can do all that work really quickly, right?
And I think that's a great thing because now I can take that hypothetical and put it to the team that's looking at that very quickly and we can make decisions where, you know,
Putting together a hypothetical before AI you know that in and of itself was a huge task where now I can complete that very quickly and get it to a group of us so that we can look at it and make revisions.
I think that's an
incredibly powerful use of AI because, you know, the fact that it can whip together a budget and you look at the product and you go, okay, actually that's not bad.
But I don't know, you know, I guess I get the complex of going, okay, you know, so when I bring this hypothetical budget to the next meeting, people are going to look at me and go, you know, we know you used AI to put this together,
Well,
I just thought of a perfect example.
I was in production for a long period of time, audio production for, you know, some of the advertising agencies around town and they would bring their scripts in.
And then finally, looking at those scripts.
talking to the talent, hearing how they say it.
We make a lot of adjustments in
And I think what you're
Yeah, I mean what I'm bringing is I'm bringing a document with the intention for full revision Yes, it just it just gives us that ability to start much quicker.
yeah And and and dig into the meat earlier You know good and so anyway, I I I just here's the other part.
It's not
As I forget who quoted this, but it ain't gonna un-invent itself.
And so we need to keep thinking about it, you know, and I don't know unless they maybe start training the AIs on, you know, like some kind of self-destructive thoughts.
Well, I
I'm waiting for AI though to one time go.
Okay, like this is done.
I can't do it.
Yeah, even
I'm sorry, I can hear the air gun.
Even I don't believe this crap.
Well, you know, a lot of
angry with GROC, you know, X's AI, and they're angry because GROC sounds too woke, too liberal, and they're getting angry.
And of course, you know, Musk keeps making adjustments to it, and it's now starting to sound like Musk saying, you know, Nazi this, Nazi that.
So yeah, now I think that's not still, it's not appeasing the omega cult out there.
So, yeah.
Then
what I worry about when when he started making adjustments to AI and it started sounding like him That's when I became very skeptical of the whole idea of AI and that's why I mentioned to you last week I think we talked about it and that is that we have to have some kind of guardrail some official Stamp of approval from the government, which is now you can't trust the government because it's under Trump But some stamp of approval where they get accredited in a certain way for providing information
through their AI,
the specifically designed
And that's kind of where we are, right?
I mean, I think that leads into the other story we want to cover, which is, right?
And at this moment, we have this sense from, you know, every special interest group, and I'm serious, I'm not going to give anyone more credit or, but if you don't,
Give me what I believe to be true.
I now look at you as a source of disinformation Yeah, I'm talking about in the big right every it's like, you know, I need my radio news.
I need my Information about this because if I ever read something counter to what I believe
I know that it's not an opposing view that I should take seriously and look critically at.
I know for sure that it's just you trying to control me.
And that's where we say that's unhealthy and whether AI contributes more to that because it can produce things that
give people a sense of going, see, this is real here.
And I know that there's a truth here and that you're trying to hide the truth, bury it from me.
You know, and so this, everybody's now like, you know, on your, we're on our individual teams and within our individual teams, we don't have a central source of information that all the teams, no matter what side you're on, you can look at and go, Oh, instead, we've said, you know what,
We're going to have our own news gathering and production.
And, you know, because you can't trust those lefty woke Marxist liberals because you know what they're up to, you know, they're up there.
They're out to conquer the world.
And so we're going to create our own sources of information.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Here it is.
Here it is.
What is that?
what well now remember i know we're coming up on a break yeah depending what what do you mean stopping um it's making sure that
Incorrect bad liberal protesting and criticism stops and The contract that the Manhattan has put on higher education is going to Mandate that the things that they care about though that's going to be something that universities
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We're talking to Dr. Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils and we mentioned earlier that the Manhattan Institute and Christopher Rufo going after the colleges, I think they're really going after Harvard in this.
instance but at the same time they've asked for an end to social and political activism on campus and I think they found the Achilles heel because Columbia University has reached a settlement with the Trump administration and they're gonna pay out 220 million dollars and the point of this is they're being accused of failing to adequately address anti-seminat
or anti-Semitic harassment on campus.
least
easily.
Well, OK, so I'm going to try to do something here with it.
that the Rufo and their people will never do, which is to say, okay, what is a university and a place like that and its commitment to free speech, right?
Free speech.
And so you say, well, a protest fits within a free speech.
And so it should be allowed.
And so they shouldn't be outlawing that.
Now, what you can't do on a college campus,
is that you can't make people have a fear that they are going to potentially be harmed, or you can't interfere with a group of people trying to conduct their business, right?
And so some of what happened in some of these protests were, you know, we're talking about the protests were for protesting the Israeli war in Gaza.
And so Jewish students felt
harassed and sometimes even, you know, threatened to the point that they couldn't conduct their lives the way they're supposed to be on campus.
Well, that did happen in some places and that should be acknowledged as that is bad, inappropriate, illegal, threatening behavior.
That's not free speech.
That's not protesting.
And so
cover that, admit that, take care of it.
But what's happened now, though, is that what Rufo and them have said is that so everything that happens on campus, see, that's the woke mind virus, that's the left liberalism, and we need to outlaw that.
And you're going like, wait a minute, no, the laws are already on the books that say
Student you're not allowed to do the things that happened and guess what enforce the laws And this is where the conservatives always drive me crazy because they're like, you know, we don't need new laws for gun control We just need to enforce the laws.
All right.
Okay, then we don't need new Bands on campus protesting we need to allow the protesting and when there is bad behavior Illegal behavior or things that go against what we have said, you know how this happens then you enforce that
you don't turn it into a national spectacle and then
have essentially a university like Columbia stepping up and going, you know what, make it go away.
Here's $220 million, which then creates an atmosphere on campus that starts to say like, okay, I don't think I'm going to ever step out and point out that something's bothering me.
And you go, that's supposed to be the hallmark of higher education.
Left, right, middle, you should have the ability to set up and go, hey,
Here's what I think.
Even if it's offensive, if you're not interfering with people and not destroying property, you can come on a college campus, you know, and it just reminds me 1987, I forget the guy's name, but here he is on, you know, this podunk little college where I went, Edinburgh University, you know, and he's walking around campus yelling at all of us about, you know, we're going to HE double toothpicks.
Because, you know, because we were drinking and, you know, exploring sexualities and things like that.
And guess what?
He was allowed to come on campus to do that.
And he should have been allowed, and we should allow that type of thing.
But the Manhattan Project in Rufo...
They're using these times where things might not actually be happening according to the way they're supposed to.
And then using that as leverage to come in from what was their original belief to begin with, which is we want to be in control.
We want our view of the world enforced.
Let's use this opportunity to say, see, we're going to outlaw this left wing, woke indoctrination, and we're going to install right wing.
indoctrination and we're going to do that under the guise of establishing objectivity and freedom and nothing could be further from the truth.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I said, I
us.
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Damn.
Oh, and when you find the real John who's not wearing a Barbie shirt, let me know.
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