Cow Pies and Coldplay (Hour 1)

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We're truly sorry.

Good morning.

Happy Friday.

Yeah.

It's a beautiful day.

Good morning, Dom.

Good morning, producer.

Let's not go

through the whole

line of

who's here this morning.

Okay.

John

Peterson.

I think we

kind

of know who's

doing the program.

All right.

Maybe.

So anyway, we've got we've got a question that we present at our website, 92.7 WMDX.com.

No,

no, it's WMDXradio.com.

Oh, WMDXradio.

You were sort of close, but not really.

And

there are a couple times.

WMDXradio.com.

All right, well, I'm glad you corrected me.

You don't have to repeat it.

All right, now, we have a question there, right?

We have a new poll question.

A new poll, is that, that's a poll question.

Right.

Yeah, we have poll questions.

And for some reason, it isn't exactly what we presented as the poll question or possible choices that you could select.

I had

nothing to do with this.

You and Dom put this together.

But you know what we can do?

We can certainly go with this and have you vote.

for, well, this is an important question, right?

Let's present what

it is here.

Okay, so the question is, how should John and Gordy begin their show every morning?

That's the

question.

Right.

Your neighbor's complained about our new feature in getting rid of the National Big Calendar.

Right, so we thought-

Who

would complain about getting rid of the National Big Calendar?

I don't

know.

What kind of life do you have?

My neighbor's apparently.

Okay.

So, okay, how should John and Gordy begin their show every morning?

Number one says,

Dominic's would you rather quiz?

Okay, so far that's got 50% of the voting.

Oh Number two is Gordy's national day calendar that also has 50% of the voting so apparently only two people John shower thoughts zero percent and then anything else zero percent now How is this different from the question that you put on there?

Because you said it's changed completely.

I don't remember actually putting this question on.

Oh,

so it's Dom.

You put the question.

Wait, John, you were with me when we did this.

We were in the conference room.

We were in the conference room

and

we gave a few choices.

And this is our final list.

Right,

right.

Yeah.

All right, okay.

See, I had left the converse.

I was done with you guys.

I had to move on my life.

You was just looking out the window, yeah?

Well, okay, so, you know, it's a little genericized and it has been...

You said it was a lot funnier when you wrote it.

Well,

I thought our wording was a little different and, you know, it gave people...

a little bit of our sense of humor.

I'll see Catherine called later in the afternoon and said it was really convoluted, so she rewrote it.

No, no, no.

She said it was very wordy and convoluted and meandering.

And so she, you know, she's the editor of the page.

So.

Well, yes, we can't really, uh, we really, we really can't say anything.

I've got another, I've got another question.

You

can say anything you want.

If John and Gordy did one thing, they should, and that's my next question.

We'll be presenting that in the, uh, in the future, not too distant future.

Okay.

I

gave her two choices.

Oh.

Two questions.

Oh.

Uh, yesterday I thought of them and I thought, well, I'm going to send them to her.

All right, and I did and we'll see how she manufactures them into something that is so boring that you want to yawn all the way through our quiz Our poll question.

So

you want to reveal what that next question is already

if John and Gordy did one thing they should and choice a is not change a damn thing keep doing what they're doing B include more stories in idiocracy at the risk of their own lives

Uh,

C,

sound depressed, angry, and lash out, and even their closest friends and collars.

We

do that anyway.

And D, be replaced by AI-controlled robots.

So that's,

see, I

mean, that's the kind of

poll question I want to see.

Yeah, well, I can tell you that she's probably going to take...

Take the editing, editing a hatchet to that, too.

You think so?

Yeah.

Well, then I have another one.

Oh, yeah.

OK.

I came up with two of them.

You got to.

OK.

What's the next one?

I would like these questions to stay up for a week.

OK.

Now, no, that's not that's not the question.

Oh,

OK.

Here it is.

If John and Gordy could get a few more stories into their jam-packed morning show, what?

would you like more of, right?

And A

is

in-depth hard-hitting political criticism that could land us an alligator elk address.

B, media, movies, and tech info.

C, constant reminders to buyer things at the John and Gordy store.

Or D, more of life's bitter, curb your enthusiasm moments from John and Gordy.

Wow.

There you go, see.

OK.

Now, just forget I even told you these, because they'll happen in the next few weeks or so.

A couple of weeks or so.

OK.

All

right.

Well, good.

But I'm warning you now, because if Catherine gets hold of this, I can't even imagine how she'll

do it.

Well, she can't help

her.

I mean, she's the editor,

so she feels like it.

Scoop them

down into these little bullet points.

Look at that.

These are just tiny little squares on there.

What

difference does that

make?

It's very, okay.

All right.

We can see we're gonna have another meeting now.

After the show.

I love the meetings.

I know.

12 minutes past the hour.

Well, we'll, you know, something to think about.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Those are my ideas for questions.

Very good.

It's Friday.

Hey, that's a good thing.

And big weekend ahead, you know, Coldplay is coming to town at Camp Randall Stadium.

Yes, and they're gonna be here during the rain.

Well, it's supposed to rain tomorrow.

off and on, and maybe some showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon, so I, you know, good luck.

I don't know what, who, do they have a rain date?

I have no idea.

They usually do, right?

Yeah, yeah, I guess.

They haven't done a concert there.

Well, they did the Morgan Wallin concert a couple of weeks ago, a few three weeks ago, something like that.

That was a two night thing.

They had two shows Friday and Saturday.

And I guess they went really well from

whatever.

Yeah, but don't they have areas where you can just kind of huddle in, you know, like case

rates?

Yeah, big tended areas.

Yeah, they do.

And actually funny story, my friends, my roommate's friend is actually working it and she's there right now.

Oh, right now?

Yes,

she had to clock in at 6 a.m.

and she's not clocking out until 9 p.m.

Tonight

just to get ready.

Yep, just to get ready.

for the Coldplay concert.

It's absurd.

It's such a long hour.

It makes sense to me.

I wonder if they have a plan for what

to

do if it's raining.

Well, you know, they wanted us to open for them, but we're busy.

We're going to be at the Dane County Fair with Pam Yackey.

Lenny and the tractor parade.

That was much more interesting.

I'd rather be there with Pam then.

Coldplay, I mean, come on.

We're going to talk to Pam in a few minutes here, so.

The tractor

break.

Well, I

am absolutely loving this.

And by the way, the cool thing is we're going to

be in her truck.

Well, that's right.

Yeah, she has a tractor, but there was some kind of transportation problem getting it from wherever she has it to.

to the fairgrounds, to the, you know, Dane County fairgrounds.

So, yeah, she's got a nice, big, beautiful truck, and we're just gonna be in that and tossing out candy or... Well, you know, what

would be appropriate is tossing out cow pies.

Well, from the Baraboo Candy Company?

Yes, yes, the Baraboo Candy Company.

What did you say?

Cow pies.

Cow pies.

You're probably not familiar with these.

I have no idea what cow pies are.

Okay.

Well, they have a cow chip.

I don't know, how do we explain this?

Well, it's

a cow pie, you know,

cows

are out there in the pasture, they do their thing, and the cow pie sits on the ground and it dries out.

and they've become very light and the whole thing is they have a cow pie throw.

in Sox

City.

Okay,

okay,

okay.

And it's a big deal, actually.

And people can throw their cow pies and get judged on

their style.

I think they're

baked

or sterilized.

They're also known as cow chips when dried.

So

that's

right.

And so to, you know, glom onto this, the Baraboo Candy Company makes chocolate cow pies that they sell.

Because it sounds so appetizing.

I can't say I'm

a fan.

But

this

is what

Wisconsin

does.

I

mean, we make really horrible things like eating poop off

the ground.

It's

a souvenir.

It's real chocolate.

It's good.

Let's get to Would You Rather?

What do you think?

Do we have time?

Yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it.

Dom's special feature.

Honestly,

let's just get this over with, right?

Oh,

blame him.

We'll see

how long he stays in.

Did you make a new open?

I didn't make it.

I kind of like this open now.

It's been here for so long, I can't really get rid of it.

Okay.

Could you have more reverb?

No.

All right, first question.

Would you- I can't even get the word up.

Okay.

Alright, would you rather always have a full phone battery or a full gas tank?

Which one would you rather have?

Wait, a full, what?

A full phone battery or a full gas tank.

Oh, a full phone battery.

Yeah, like a fully charged phone.

Phone or a full gas

tank.

Oh, I would, I disagree.

My phone I think is at like 20% right now, so I think I would say phone.

I would say phone.

For sure.

Sounds

like you should charge your

phone

overnight.

When you wake up, you come in with a full charge.

That's

not a reminder.

That's

what we do.

It's just

a kid.

You know, we got to give them these tips.

Yeah.

And here I'm talking about a full gas tank, you know, and I've got a new EV.

What am I talking about?

You're talking about cow pies.

All right.

I'd go with the gas tank.

What's the other

question?

Second question, would you rather live in Antarctica or the Sahara Desert?

Which one would you rather do?

Are you more?

I'd go with Antarctica.

Yeah, I don't like the heat.

I think I would go Antarctica, too.

I think I would go Antarctica, too.

Yeah, absolutely.

Plus, it's melting, so you want to get up there before it melts away completely.

I

mean, you have a hard time in heat.

You have a

more difficult time than I do.

Yeah.

And I thought I could not bear heating.

You know, dew points kill me.

But you, you know, just heat itself.

Yeah, I love air conditioning in the summertime.

Yeah.

Make it as cold as possible.

All right.

Well, that's it.

That adds to the greenhouse.

Oh, thank you for presenting that feature, Tom.

There we go.

OK.

Coming up, we're going to talk to Pam Miyake next about the Dane County Fair.

Yes.

And a little bit later on, we'll check in with Savannah Tomey Olson.

Get the latest news and rocker will be joining us with a max ink preview in our next hour It's all coming up.

Well, we got if what we've got a few things in idiocracy, too Yeah, and I would be talking about some of

the things that Trump and Obama can be compared to but you know Each you have their own strengths.

We'll take a look at that and then we'll look at PBS funding how that's

Rolling out.

Oh boy.

And

then of course Peter Navarro is saying, you know, hey, you know those tariffs are fantastic, you know, we're making money

hand over fist really

guess who's paying that money us.

Yeah.

So anyway, guess what we've got that coming up and then of course the Daily Show takes a look at

Epstein again.

Nick

Fuentes has some suggestions about the Epstein thing.

And

of course, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, the happy birthday that Trump wrote for Epstein.

All Epstein all that.

All Epstein all the time.

Yep.

Epstein gate.

And the end of the Stephen Colbert late night show.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll talk about that.

We're going to end it.

It's all coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.

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This is

WMDX.

John and Gordy

in

the morning.

Capital City, Madison on another beautiful

day.

Yeah, lots of sunshine highs in the upper 70s for today.

Right now it's 54 degrees.

A little cool out there to start the day.

It's nice, refreshing.

and it looks beautiful through the day.

Right now, let's check in with Pam Yonkey, the fabulous farm babe.

Good morning, Pam.

Yeah, good morning, guys.

This is a beautiful morning.

Yesterday afternoon was great.

If you got a chance to grill out or maybe be at the Dane County fair or something like that, and this morning looks just beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

Now, tomorrow may be a different story.

And we were, we were planning on this grand parade, you know, John and Gordy will be up there.

It's a tractor parade, right?

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a tractor parade.

And we were going to be in your pickup truck.

But, you know, because of the rain and lightning possibilities, we're rethinking the possibility of that.

So we'll play

it by

ear.

Is that basically what we're going to do then, right?

Yeah, all right.

Yeah, that's what I would advise.

People can check back with me tomorrow morning before they leave.

Just send me an email, Pam, at MidwestFarmReport.com because

I mean, most of the time we don't shy away from rain, but I'm just looking at the hourly forecast.

And if we have lightning in the area, then the security folks at the Dane County Fair won't let us.

I mean, yeah, you've got four rubber tires under you, but you've got a lot of metal around you.

So we don't need to be making headlines in a whole different way with our tractor parade.

So check in with me tomorrow morning if it looks like it's going to be iffy.

Well, I don't know, Pam.

John and Gordy are constantly looking for a way to get into the news.

Yeah, we could use a

little publicity.

Get a few

headlines

and

be struck by lightning is one way of doing it.

I was going to say, you're in the news and in the obituaries, all in the same event.

Be careful, guys.

Yes,

absolutely.

You

know, we were talking about throwing cow pies, you know, the candy from your truck.

And then

somebody texted us and said there is even a cow pie.

liqueur, which is very good, she says.

I've never heard of

that.

Yeah, gotta try that sometime.

I've seen derivations of that.

There's a couple different cow.

I don't know if it's cow pie, but yeah, I think I know where she's going.

That's, you know, always keep your options open when it comes to cleansing the palate.

Absolutely.

You know, it sounds like a door prize that we could give away at the next testicle festival.

That's right.

There.

Yeah.

All right.

So let's talk a little bit more about what else is going on at the Dane County Fair, right?

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What else is

going on?

Yeah, it got started yesterday.

So a lot of the youth livestock judging events are happening yesterday and today.

If you're fond of horses, there will be a lot of horse judging going on today all through the day and into the night.

Now tonight, if you are looking to maybe fill up the freezer or go in with the neighbors and fill up the freezer, great opportunity starting at six o'clock.

The youth livestock auction will happen.

I'll be one of the MC's moderating program.

And basically what the

just gives you a chance if you're really into the buy local know where your food comes from this hits on every box.

It checks every box.

These kids do such a wonderful job raising these animals and the ultimate end goal is that they're going to end up on your plate.

And I'm just hoping that we get a good crowd tonight to give the kids some well deserved financial recognition for the work that they've put in and that all the animals will be processed locally and up back in your freezer.

So like I said this is open to the

general public, if you're somebody that has a stand up or, you know, a freezer chest or something like that, and you've got a family to feed, this could be the best opportunity for you to invest in pork or beef or lamb and walk away with, I mean, seriously, when you look at buying a whole animal for about three, four bucks a pound, that

is everything from hamburger to roast to steaks.

You take a look at what you're paying at the grocery store.

Not only are you getting value, but you're really helping a young person with their youth livestock project.

So that's tonight at the fair.

And like I said, entertainment all day long, fair will go through Sunday.

So even if the weather doesn't help us out Saturday morning, don't forget to circle back and come back out because a lot of time, energy and volunteer hours that go into making that fair happen.

Period.

All right.

Well,

let's ask a

little question here about Alice in Dairyland.

You know, she goes down that little rabbit hole of cheese and... What are you talking about?

I'm just trying to make some analogy that doesn't work.

Yeah, but our new Alice, our 68th Sarah Hagenau.

actually started the job officially last week was her first full week on the job.

Remember, she was selected as our Alice back in May.

But because of the rigorous schedule that the Alice in Terri Land program has in the month of June, they basically give her a month to be in training, if you will, and learning the ropes and what it's like

to be a

State Department of Ag Trade and Consumer Protection employee.

So now Sarah is out.

And remember, she's originally from the DeForest Poinet area, graduate of the University of Minnesota.

and fresh on the job.

So if you want to follow, go to Alice in Dairyland.com.

If you want to make a request for her to make an appearance at one of your events or that, that's the same place that you can go and then just follow her on social media.

She's been doing a wonderful job already out at an awful lot of county fairs on her own, you know, talking with folks like I said.

AllysonDuryland.com and congratulations to Sarah Heganauer, 78th already on the job.

All right.

Hey, less than a minute.

Can you just give us a brief rundown of the cage-free requirements in California and why that's a problem?

Right

now we're working on it.

USDA is calling it unconstitutional that the state of California requires the only eggs that can be sold in the grocery store must come from cage free operations.

That's driven the price of the eggs up about 63% for California consumers.

The Trump administration is going to file a lawsuit against California, Governor Newsom and others, citing it as unconstitutional.

If that one falls, it could be a precedent center.

That's why I want to bring it up and we'll keep an eye on.

it for you guys.

All right, thanks a lot.

Very good Pam.

Thank you for joining us.

We'll see you at the fair.

That's Pam Yaki.

We'll be back with Idiocracy Next on John and Gordy in the morning.

Human evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence with no natural predators within the

herd.

There was a place without boundaries, a place without limits.

Welcome to Costco.

I love you.

A place that is about to be

violated.

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

What is that?

Idiocracy.

Here we go.

All right.

Did the music just

drop out?

It was supposed to drop out.

Yeah, sorry.

Well, wait, yeah, is

that what it's supposed to be?

No, I don't know.

Chopped

off.

Well,

we'll

take care of that.

That won't happen again in this program.

635, sunshine to start your Friday.

It's going to be beautiful all day long highs in the upper 70s right now, 54 degrees.

And it's time, it's

Because it's Friday.

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We've... Oh, wait a minute.

They're ticking the thunder away from ours.

No, we're bringing the thunder.

I don't know what that means.

There

is no possible way, but that would...

At least, you know, make people think, wow, why go to

them?

Hey, it's Cubs and the Brewers, man.

Well, this is Cubs and Brewers.

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Well, that keyword is... What does it start with?

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All right.

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Like you throw a tamp every day right before the show.

Like you throw the game every day.

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Hubs and Brewers.

When is ours?

The following night?

Ours is the following night.

Okay.

That's right.

I think we were just about to or we may have already drawn a winner for that, which we'll announce on Monday.

I don't want to push on the spot.

Boy, so this is for the keyword.

This is for the free ticket Friday today.

Again, throw is the keyword this during our show.

Okay.

This is 8 a.m.

to enter.

That keyword.

All right, well, that sounds good.

Back to you, John.

I'm

really glad you've done that.

All right, now

let's get

to a little bit of idiocracy

here, right?

And a great deal of hypocrisy.

Oh, idiocracy and hypocrisy.

Yeah, that's a lot of us.

Kind of

rhymes.

All right, here we go.

Trump criticized Obama for writing 147 executive orders in one term.

Yeah.

So

then he wrote 220.

So I think he beat out the 147 from Obama.

Okay.

Wasn't a contest.

Well, you know, it's just a little hypocrisy.

Yeah.

In idiocracy.

Keep going.

All right.

Trump criticized Obama for playing 113 rounds of golf in one term.

Right.

Then he

played.

428.

That

seems like a lot of

golf.

Well, it is.

He really went over the top on that one.

All

right, Trump criticized Obama when 12,000 died from H1N1.

Over 400,000 died from COVID on Trump's watch.

There

you go.

Trump criticized Obama for his expensive family vacations.

Then Trump spent almost as much in a month as Obama spent in a year.

So a little hypocrisy.

I know that Trump at the time and the mega certainly got a lot of a lot of anger out against Obama for what he did.

And they made a big deal about it.

But.

Somehow that doesn't apply to Trump or any of the other magas.

Okay, and the final one that I have here Trump called Obama the most ignorant president in history Oh, yeah, I remember that in POTUS rankings though Obama is never ranked lower than 15th from the top Trump never ranked higher than fourth from the bottom

And again, idiocracy, hypocrisy.

We find this stuff out, don't

we?

Yeah,

that's good.

We dig deep.

We

try to

come up with all this stuff just for you.

All right.

Well, thank you for pointing all that out.

It's important to keep our democracy alive.

Democracy, hypocrisy, idiocracy.

It is amazing.

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around.

Oh, there you

go.

All right.

Continue now.

Let's

continue with Peter Navarro.

Okay.

He is the senior counselor of trade.

Did you know that I knew?

He talks he says stupid things

You know, he never

really know what his title is, but he is the senior counselor of trade.

He was with

he was in the Clinton administration.

Yeah, okay.

I don't know what he did there, but

Again, no

one knows what he's doing

a mysterious guy

But he is happy to see Americans paying more tariffs

I

just think this is just unbelievable He's completely unaware of the fact that the Americans are paying for the tariffs.

Yes, you know, so anyway He's bragging about record a number of dollars made in tariffs.

Let's listen to this.

Okay

I would say that for the American people, these tariffs are a great boon.

We've already collected like $100 billion of tariffs.

A

record for a single fiscal year.

So the tariffs are working and these kind of revenues that we're getting is a very important part of the big, beautiful bill in terms of financing that.

Yes,

yes.

See, we're continuing to finance that big, bad bill.

while they take away our healthcare and everything else, and we're still paying the tariffs, and we're still paying for that bill.

This is one of the biggest ripoffs the American public has ever, ever seen.

And inflation is starting to creep

up a

little bit.

That's right.

And I love, I found the post from...

Chris Hayes,

he

posted this, put another way, we've raised taxes on Americans by $106 billion.

Yes.

All right, Chris, you nailed

it.

We've got Joe on the line.

Let's go to the phones right now.

Hi, Joe.

Good morning, Joe.

It is important to really understand what the words mean Tariff tax there was a wonderful comment I just wanted to comment on two things first of all are the esteemed a dog killer Kristi Noem was back in in the headline yesterday.

She had a wonderful quote about The horrible tragedy that happened in Texas that will give us a clue to what the future holds.

She said

from the response that happened in Texas was much more how FEMA will look in the future.

There's

the window, there's the window, and I do want to return to, and I will just make it an effort, the Epstein files because why not?

So it really comes down to this, release the files, they're on someone's desk.

No, they never existed.

It's a hope.

And you're a bad person if you believe it.

But now the new little wrinkle that's come in is that our esteemed Senator Ron Johnson now says that

Biden had the files and he may have tampered with them.

So Biden tampered with files that don't exist.

Isn't he

amazing?

That is truly amazing.

And thanks for that bit of information.

I can't

keep up with all the different storylines for things.

This

is outrageous.

I feel like the head in the exorcist, you know, that's spinning around.

I

know.

I know.

It's just

outrageous.

Now

they're looking for what the grand...

jury records they want to release that I'm not quite sure what that will reveal

but

Yeah, that won't give you the good stuff, because the files include all of the interviews.

They include tape recordings, a video, all of that.

It's a nice little dodge on their part, because you only get two people's testimony, not the full file.

But

it doesn't matter, because they don't exist.

Even though they

write

them

a

death.

That's true.

Thanks,

guys.

Joe, thank you for that.

Phone lines are open, 608-879-8255.

Yeah, we've

got a whole bunch of Epstein stuff coming up in just a few moments.

But I want to get some of the other information out.

I think this is really important stuff.

You know, PBS, we've been following this story.

And it goes to the House, of course.

The argument today by the Megas is that there are so many news outlets out there that PBS is no longer worth funding.

Oh,

OK.

Of course, 30 years ago was, well, they're biased.

So they got rid of the biased part of it.

Kind of.

They're still saying it's biased.

But yet it's really more important to say we can't keep wasting our money on public radio because you can go to any outlet you want, like Newsmax or Joe Rogan.

Right.

Those are

the places that I want to get my news.

But PBS, you know, has all the integrity of really, truly, you know, somebody that's looking at things in the neutral zone, kind

of, I

mean, from their standpoint, at least.

But yeah, it's horrible that they're trying, especially in the rural areas.

A lot of these PBS and NPR stations are, you know, are out there.

you know, in the hinterlands.

And that's where people get their news and get their, yes, all of that.

And to cut that back.

And one of the great

things about it too, in the rural areas, WPR

goes

out there, NPR affiliates are out there in their states covering the news and that gets funneled back into NPR as special reports.

I mean, it really is a fantastic network, not

Anything like civic media at this point, but they're they're trying to get there This is NPR's reaction to all of this is cut 991.

All right, let's listen

Democrats after the vote called it a dark day and said the bill is going to hurt Americans who rely on public broadcasting and hurt the U.S.'

's reputation as a global leader.

They also argued Republicans were ceding Congress's constitutional power of the purse and instead were just taking orders from President Trump.

So Republicans on Capitol Hill have tried to strip federal

funding for public media for decades.

Some Republicans, I should say, not all.

So

say

more about their strategy and their thinking around

this.

Right.

This effort to defund NPR and PBS goes back to then.

1990s.

A lot of Republican lawmakers have criticized what they view as ideologically biased news coverage from public media outlets and PR executives, I should say, have pushed back at those claims.

But once Republicans gained control of Congress and the White House, they had the votes to roll back two years of money.

Congress already approved just back in March for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

Senator Murkowski tried to restore this funding and she cited an emergency alert that she got on her phone just hours before the vote from an Alaska.

a public radio station warning about an earthquake, saying that's an example of what's at stake if stations lose federal money, but her effort failed.

The house is scheduled to vote later today.

The clock is ticking.

They have a midnight deadline on Friday to get it to the president for his signature.

All right.

And here is Paula's.

I can't remember.

Paul Kruger.

and let's get her responding quick here.

I asked them for examples.

People often struggle to come up with examples of what really they're talking about.

We're always interested obviously in making sure that we're serving a multiplicity of viewpoints.

Bill Buckley made his home on public broadcasting with a series called Firing Line, which continues today with Margaret Hoover.

We are interested in having different perspectives that we bring forward.

But when I look at the range of our program,

on public broadcasting, I can't make any sense of an argument that we are somehow biased in any

way.

Right, they're really not biased.

All

right, we heard a couple of points there.

I want to get to Caroline Levits in just a few moments here.

A ridiculous announcement.

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