Gen Z’s Wake-Up Call: The New Age of Discontent (Hour 2)

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We're truly

sorry.

Sorry to hurt everybody's feelings, each and every morning.

All right, we can't help it.

If the Megas can get away with it, why can't we?

They're out there to hurt people, and all we're trying to do is just pass along the message.

We're here to help everybody.

Yes, we don't want to hurt

anybody.

packaging it in a way that sells.

Spending it.

Good morning.

All right.

Well, hey, good morning to everyone out there today.

Happy Wednesday, John Peterson.

Yes, it's the third day now past my birthday.

So

we're still celebrating all week long.

We're still thinking about it.

And my wife's birthday as well.

We can't forget that.

She had her birthday on Tuesday.

You know, we didn't, we didn't mention that

yesterday, did we?

Yeah.

Okay.

Did you do anything special?

We went to the movies and saw Superman.

How was it?

The new Superman from the Warner Network, the DC Universe, and my family just loved the movie.

Just loved it.

You included?

She wants to own that movie now.

That's how we decide whether we like a movie or not.

We're gonna buy the 4k version of it.

You know we're tired of depending on reruns or streaming networks to play these movies.

We're gonna have the movies ourselves watch them when we want to watch them and we'll have them forever.

So you like the movie?

I like the movie, yeah.

Big thumbs up?

Well, kind of a thumbs up, yes.

Kind of.

I had a

big thumbs up.

Really?

I'm a little jaded now with all of this stuff, but sometimes I don't think you really need to explain a lot about Superman.

You know, but...

That's what they did in the movie.

They're kind of, you know, little background things

that they

mentioned.

I'm thinking, no, we know Superman.

This is like, you know, if you're going to a Superman movie, you got to have some

information already.

Did they have a Lois Lane?

Did they have a Jimmy Olsen?

Did they have Perry White?

They did.

Yeah.

Yeah, Perry White was played

by a black guy.

Okay.

And

Jimmy Olsen.

Cute character, interesting character, I liked him.

Here's the thing that I just loved in the movie and I was laughing out loud in the theater at the time.

In fact, my wife was too.

You know, I have a Kraken, I have a border collie, a little over two years old now, completely uncontrollable, not like the two...

previous border collies that were male.

This is a female and boy completely out of control.

We have tried.

We have tried.

We're really good at training border collies, but not this time.

And every time once in a while we sit around the house, we're thinking, yeah, she's a good girl.

She's a good girl.

And then we kind of, we slant off and you're going, well, she's not that good.

And I guess she's not a, not a really good dog.

So, so we say that.

Well, she's not that really good, that really good.

And then Superman said the same thing about crypto.

No kidding, in the movie?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Didn't, wasn't really a fan of crypto, huh?

No.

What did the dog do that was so good?

Could

you check and see what the dog's name is?

You know, I can't it's not crypto is it because

I don't know

crypto coins.

I'm just it is crypto.

You're right.

Okay.

All right.

I feel uncomfortable saying crypto

I'm

just going

to let everybody know I don't like saying crypto.

It is a con.

It is used by

thieves.

Oh,

OK.

But OK, anyway, crypto is a CGI dog in this movie.

And it is just as cute as hell.

It is completely out of control.

It is just like my border collared power.

Really?

No kidding.

So yeah.

It's, it's amazing.

And when they said, it's not really a good dog.

We just broke up because that's how we describe her.

That's funny.

Yeah, it was great.

So a good movie and a big thumbs up from you.

Not a big thumbs up, but a thumbs up never go less thumbs up.

Was it in focus?

Oh, yeah.

How was the sound?

I forgot to mention the sound was good.

It was Dolby, you know, yeah,

whatever the latest is.

You get any popcorn?

No, any food?

Yeah, I was a

popcorn.

Oh yeah!

Well, that's a big, that's a big problem in our family.

Really?

Yeah.

We can never get one of our Gen Zers out of the house on time.

So we're always kind of really late.

Even though we're still in the preview section, you know, the previews are still up.

But we never get there in time to stand in line to get the popcorn.

We get free

popcorn because we're members

of

Marcus Club.

So we get the free popcorn.

We just never make it in on time to stand.

and get the damn popcorn.

And we mentioned that last night.

Can we ever get here early just to have the popcorn?

Now they're complaining to me that they're not getting the popcorn.

They're the ones that are at fault.

I'd take the popcorn in the

end of the week.

I'd get there early if I could.

Well, you have you have enough cars now you could all drive separately and get there when you This is insane three cars who the hell am I?

So did you take the new car last night?

Yeah, I wanted to try out the back seats with

a good set.

Okay, they

liked it.

Yeah

Man, it's very comfortable.

What a comfortable car.

Did

you drive it here this morning?

I did.

Oh, all right.

I actually saw it for the first time.

Yeah, John got locked out.

We should run out and take a picture.

I left my key card for the door

in

the other car, the Prius.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

But it's wonderful.

I mean, I have it on high tension.

I don't know what they really call it.

High tension.

You can set the car to generate a lot of electricity.

with a little more higher tension or friction.

So when you take your foot off the accelerator, it really slows down dramatically because it is creating more friction in order to create and generate

electricity,

charge the battery.

I got here on like four miles

worth of

energy.

Wow.

Yeah.

Okay.

So

that's pretty

good.

And you can accelerate quickly.

Wow.

Yes, can I?

Can you can you can you peel out?

Have you tried that?

I haven't.

I've not tried that.

Do you want to try

that?

I'd love to try that.

No, yeah.

See what happens.

Well, I'm rethinking.

What is that?

Do you have a

chance to get behind the wheel?

What does that mean?

Peeling out.

What is that?

Oh.

Oh, wow.

I mean, it is a chance here.

OK.

Every day.

From a dead stop, you have slam on the accelerator and...

and it squeals the wheels.

Oh, it's like a donut.

Peeling the rubber off of the wheel.

Oh, okay.

It's like a donut.

Peeling out.

You're doing a donut?

No, no.

Peeling.

You want to go straight.

You're straight.

Oh, you're just going straight.

You want to, like a drag race?

A drag race, yeah.

That makes sense.

That makes

sense.

And they used to actually peel rubber off their tires.

That's

right.

Wow.

Before we had good tires.

Yeah.

I remember those days.

Oh, yes.

Yes,

wrapping rubber bands around the tires just to make it a few more miles.

Okay,

so here it is.

It's Wednesday and a little bit later on we're going to be visiting with Mike McCabe.

He'll be in talking about his new article on Substack and then Judy Davidoff from Ismus.

We'll join us a little bit later.

Interesting article, her editorial on public radio.

I know it.

Well, there's a big vote coming up before the Senate on public broadcasting and funding.

Basically, they passed that

bill.

Right.

But there's some special fund.

There is another funding thing.

They're gonna have another vote on it.

They're having another vote on it.

Yeah.

On public property.

I don't know why, but they're gonna have another vote.

I hope it loses this time.

Supposedly there's some GOP senators that may vote for you know, that's what they always say, right?

Oh, there's a few holdouts and then they go ahead and pass whatever it

is.

Well, we want Native Americans to have public radio out there.

Well, right.

And you know what?

They're gonna compromise and not have that.

Well, they're gonna stand up for the

Indians and that's not gonna hold up, after all.

Well, we'll talk about that and much more with Judy Davidoff, when she comes in.

And, all right, and weather wise today, well, we're seeing a little sunshine, but... Well,

yesterday was pretty nice.

Well,

today is a different day.

I thought it was pretty nice.

Yeah.

It's going to be very warm, very humid, and we're going to get some showers and thunderstorms, looks like, this afternoon, and highs in the mid-80s.

What is your Samsung WMDX watch tell us as far as the current temperature?

I have 70 degrees.

Really?

Officially.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

From Charlie Shortino.

Yes, it is 70.

It calls me up every morning.

It is 70 degrees.

Higher on 85 and low tonight around 60.

Okay.

That's perfect.

But yeah, thunderstorms are in the mix for this afternoon.

That's right.

But still, the sun will set at 834.

Okay.

Set your chronometers, okay So what else we got cooking today Dom let's get to what is it?

It is yes.

We have what is it today?

What's going on with where is it a thing or not a thing?

We're just somebody else's we're gonna just gonna go with it.

How about that?

It's it's would you which

is which?

Would you rather Bob Bob from a kind of walk mentions John?

It's called regeneration when you lift your foot off the accelerator in your

TV

Regeneration I'm getting man.

I'm getting the lingo.

I appreciate it, but I'll try to remember that a

great help

All right, Bob.

Thank you.

Would you

rather would you rather first question?

Would you rather have every outfit you wear be slightly itchy or slightly too tight?

This is this is a tough one for me Slightly too tight can't handle the edge.

Yeah, I gotta

go along with that.

I would be the opposite I think

I would

be I would rather have it slightly itchy.

Okay,

I don't know

my shirt the John and Gordy shirt right now

Yeah,

I said sometimes is it itchy?

Sometimes I think that's

my

own fault.

I put it in the wash and and kind of yeah, what did you do?

I also cut the tag off.

I like to do that.

I don't know why

I do that maybe the point I think that's it.

Yeah, that's

it.

All

right tag off.

Yeah, it's so like the feeling of tags

Well, sometimes the tag does itch a little bit and if you cut it off

where it isn't really, really short, it has little barbs on

it.

Still itches.

Why did I explain that?

Send me holes.

Alright, second question.

Would you rather eat a whole raw chicken or drink a coffee cup full of slugs?

I gotta- I gotta go to bed sooner.

Yeah,

wow.

You know, I'm just- I'm going out of both

of those.

I've been

comforted.

Yeah, there's

not a chance

of picking anyone.

I'd rather eat the whole chick and just- you didn't put a time limit on that, so- Yeah, you can- Yeah.

So you could really, you know.

You could space it out throughout the day and night.

Yeah, it could keep you a couple days even if you want.

Exactly.

Yeah, I would do, I would drink a coffee cup full of slugs.

That would be my choice.

Really?

Yep, probably.

You're not gonna

drink slugs?

We might be tasty, you never know, right?

It's a good source of protein.

I think it's

okay.

Alright.

Next, you got another question?

Yes, third and final question.

Would you rather be covered in fur or be covered in scales?

The sigh by John.

My

head

hurts.

I

guess

fur.

I would do fur too.

Fur

is easier, yeah.

Scales would be coming.

It

would be hot and sweaty all the time.

That's not good, yeah.

Terrible.

You have to breathe through your mouth.

Yeah.

I mean cool off.

Right.

Through your mouth.

Right.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Very good.

I'm gonna have

to get this regeneration lift your foot off the accelerator.

Is that really what it's called?

Regeneration.

Yeah,

regeneration, yeah.

When you lift your foot off the accelerator of an EV.

Regeneration.

Why?

I have it set at the highest level of regeneration.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

You'll find

out.

You'll find out when

you get behind the wheel and try.

I'm going to try peeling

off right on

State Street.

There's

nobody out there.

Cops anywhere around here.

But there are pedestrians that you could kill.

Get out of my

way.

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Okay.

So what is happening?

Well, Wednesday, I'm

glad you asked I was just checking the latest news here and this is this I Cannot understand how the Supreme Court is reacting to the requests by the Trump administration.

Oh

We're really paying attention to you.

I know no one cares anymore what I said We just got a text that's kind of funny I'll read it from my name you want to say it just say it just say it Yeah, it's from my neighbors.

They live two doors down.

No offense.

It's first of all, it says hi.

Yes.

No offense, but we would rather

You go back to what happened in history

or anything else.

Just asking for other listeners.

Now everybody hated the National Day calendar by the time we deep-sixed it.

Well, it seems like we were saying the same things

every

year.

But now you're getting a little blowback on, would you rather?

So how does that feel, Tom?

See, I always

wanted to just take a quick look at the National Day calendar, just to see if we were missing anything.

We should be talking about, like, Donut Day.

Everybody wants to know about Donut Day, because it's an excuse to go out and buy donuts.

You need excuses to do these things, and National Day calendars often give you that excuse to do what you wanted to.

Well,

gonna break down that wall.

Maybe we could combine the two somehow.

Well, maybe.

I mean, right now, it's AI Appreciation Day.

Is it?

See?

Yeah, we missed it.

We missed it.

That's

new.

And we didn't have that last year.

Appreciation Day.

Yeah, this is, I mean, I guess they do.

Yeah, they recycle all the time.

Oh, man, we are missing it.

Well, maybe your neighbors have a point.

Maybe we just skip out on it, or maybe we just go for one

question.

Oh,

I don't know.

I kind of

enjoyed it a little bit.

So, National AI Day.

Maybe

not, though.

Your neighbors don't like it.

Okay.

What are we supposed to do on National AI Day?

How do we appreciate AI?

Just make some AI thing up.

Really?

Now, they're saying AI started way back in 1950, when Alan Turing published Computing Machinery and Intelligence.

Well, I guess you

could call anything that has some form of intelligence, AI.

Sort of computer.

I don't know if I would do that, but somebody else might.

All right, well, we're not going to do the national day

calendar, so let's

move on.

You're putting your foot... Okay, you

know

what?

That's your

neighbor.

As far

as I'm concerned, you, I got to deal with them.

You're

going out on the limb.

You do your thing, man.

I don't want to piss them off because they'll come over and take the beads off of my gazebo that they gave me from New Orleans.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's not good.

You don't want, you don't want to lose those

beads.

Finally got it nicely decorated.

So nobody's ever seen it, but me, but

okay.

Okay.

All right.

Back to

you know, they brought it up here and you know, the AI thing, AI day.

Now.

Here, you can't appreciate it if it's used in a way that you can appreciate.

But in other ways, it isn't something you can appreciate.

Remember, we tried creating a John and Gordy jingle.

They didn't work out real well.

The Jingles

didn't sound great.

No,

sometimes they had a good idea in them, but it was just really still irritating because it sounded AI-ish.

Now, there's a song, right?

It's the Trump Epstein Files song that we saw yesterday.

I think the video

is

really cool.

It's a great dance number, kind of a 30s dance movie-ish.

Can we play a little bit of it?

What could we play it?

Let's play a little bit of it here.

Music.

No, he needs a few months.

He wants a case airtight.

No bumps.

His A.G.

Pam Bondi says files on her desk.

And Magga's got binders.

They can't attest.

He's releasing the file.

To catch all the pedophiles.

Never met Epstein.

Or touched any team.

He's draining the swamp.

With Epstein's name offscreen.

OK, there you go.

All

right.

What's the name of it?

Does that have any?

Title to

it.

Yeah, that it is Trump's Epstein file song you'll get that on YouTube It's called releasing the files,

but I think

you use all of that and you'll get the video.

Yeah, that just came out But

here's the thing, you know, we listen to it.

We watched it.

Yeah, the video is kind of fascinating.

Yeah, but

I played it last night for my Gensie my Gen Z son,

what

did they

think and they hated it?

They thought it was

awful.

Why just they couldn't even stand it

They don't like AI at all.

They're not tolerating it.

I mean, the video is very impressive.

I thought it was really impressive when they did that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, it's

just a Gen Z perspective.

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Boy, I wish they'd stop talking about the Epstein list.

You know,

I just wish they'd stop talking about it.

They're not going to stop anytime soon.

No, actually, I don't want them to stop talking about it.

Yeah.

It's about time.

You know, we heard about this list for years.

Exactly.

They ran on this thing.

Right.

And then they take it back.

Yeah.

Well, there's nothing there.

Don't worry about it.

Well, John Stewart had a comment about that.

Okay.

He's back again.

And this is what transpired on The Daily Show.

Let's listen.

This guy's been talked about for years.

Are people still talking about this guy, this creep?

That is unbelievable.

Unbelievable?

You guys ran on it.

Remember this?

We need to release the Epstein list.

That is an important thing.

This Epstein sex ring operation, I'm not letting it go ever, ever.

Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.

And that was before the Trump administration took power.

And by the way, they were still hyping the Epstein files after

they took power.

We have flight logs.

We have information, names that will come out.

President Trump has given a very strong directive and that's going to be followed.

So

people can expect actual movement on this.

It's not just empty promises.

Oh, Donald Trump doesn't make empty promises.

All

right.

Two of his wives and 10,000 unpaid contractors

disagree.

That's right.

So that's

part of

it.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah, there nobody's going to stop talking about this.

No.

And Trump said yesterday, well, you know, go ahead and release the files that have credibility.

You know, he told Pam Bondi, yeah, you know, it's up to you now.

So he's passing the buck.

They tried to blame Pam Bondi right away and dropped it in her lap.

But then she, you know, never backed down on this thing.

So now she's getting tips from Trump on how to handle this thing.

And it's so ridiculous.

It's so pathetic.

We know that Trump is on the list a thousand, hundred thousand times and he is hiding it.

But you know the whole thing is credibility.

Release what you want but nothing with my name on it.

Might as well have said that.

Yeah, exactly.

Man.

They're gonna clean up that list before

they release anything.

Why?

Just making it worse.

Just release it.

Let it go.

Well, it wasn't just the Epstein list You know, I mean you could extend it to the fact that Liberals and woke people were grooming children for for sex, right?

I mean they went sex they went well beyond the Epstein list and they used all of that to attack

their opponents.

So now they're backing down and they want us to just forget about it.

Yeah.

All right.

Not gonna happen.

No, no.

We had to come up with a little X files ish sounding intro about the Epstein list.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

We got we have to do that

because

we're not going to stop talking about it.

Not

one

bit.

Good well now that we're done talking about it for now Turn the page temporarily

we'll get back to the list

Okay, I I started bringing this up and this is just this is just blowing my mind I don't know what's happened to a couple of the more liberal Justices on the Supreme Court bench.

They are going along with the right wingers.

I don't understand why

I

don't get that at

all.

And again, this is probably on the docket.

The shadow docket.

The shadow docket.

And they don't give a reason why.

And the only person giving a reason why they're dissenting is Katanji Brown Jackson.

She's very outspoken on this.

And they're acting like, well, she's a little oppity.

That's

the language.

And you know what?

It bothers me because she is the one speaking truth to power in all of this.

Absolutely.

And the Supreme Court, I don't know if you've heard about this, but it was an eight to one ruling allowing, and this is just outrageous, allowing the president to proceed with reducing the federal workforce on his own.

He can do it without Congress.

Right.

And you can't do that.

You can't usurp the power of the Congress.

You can't.

Do it.

And Katanji Brown is saying you can't do this.

She's just trying to get this message out there.

Please, will somebody listen to me, you know?

Well, that's it, yes.

And she says here, well, the court stated, because the government is likely to succeed on its argument that the executive order and member random are lawful.

Why would they succeed in that?

And because of the factors bearing whether the grant to grant this stay or not, we're going to grant the application to allow him to do whatever he wants to the U.S.

government by executive order.

This completely blows my mind.

Kataji Brown Jackson is saying, let me see who this is, her comment, at bottom.

This case is about whether that action amounts to a structural overhaul that usurps Congress's policy-making prerogatives, and it's hard to imagine deciding that question in any meaningful way after those changes have happened.

So we're making the changes, it's not part of the Constitution, they're just giving it to them.

And we've got two liberal justices on the bench going along with this.

I

don't understand

that at all.

I think this is the second time they've gone along with something like this.

So I don't know, you know, we've got the voice in the wilderness, Katanji Brown Jackson saying something about it, saying what we all think out here in the Hindrelings.

I mean, we're not.

Law professors, we don't know the law, but we know the Constitution says that Congress has this particular power.

Exactly.

We'll have to

discuss this with Jim Santel tomorrow.

This should be

at the top of the list.

That's true.

This should be right at the top of the list.

He'll join us tomorrow on the show.

Well, that's just outrageous.

It is.

It's crazy.

All right.

Well, speaking of judges and justices candidate to become a federal judge is refusing

to reject the idea that Trump should serve a third term.

Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Emil Bovi submitted a questionnaire to a Senate panel in order to be considered for a lifetime appointment as a federal judge.

In the questionnaire, he declined to deny the possibility of Trump serving a third term as president.

No kidding.

Yeah.

It says here as a nominee in the Third Circuit, it would be appropriate, not appropriate for me to address, on how the amendment would apply in an abstract hypothetical scenario.

Wait a minute, it's not

so

hypothetical, it's not so abstract because Trump has talked about it.

He's brought it up, he's talking about ad nauseam.

Yeah, the third term.

That went into effect after FDR right right yeah, so it was a long time ago.

I mean it's been established Well, they're like it's in the Constitution.

They're looking at it as though if it isn't consecutive that he can serve another term

well, that's crazy

You know who knows right who knows

oh man, so so in theory

About Obama could run again.

Yes,

right?

Yes, he can

since it's not consecutive if you want to do that You know if you

want

to go round it that way, right?

So

but we need somebody younger more progressive to be in the presidential situation Okay, let's move on to that Trump administration exposed as liars.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, we have a call Yeah, we do.

All right.

Let's get to this.

This is a mark.

Good morning mark.

Go

ahead

show this morning, but have you guys talked about the 500 metric tons of emergency food that Trump has ordered to be incinerated?

No.

Rather than shipping out.

I caught that story last night that apparently it's, I might understand why I thought quickly last night, because it was pretty ticked off when I read it, but apparently it's sitting in a warehouse in Dubai.

It was originally supposed to go to Afghanistan to feed starving children there, starving people there, but apparently Trump has decided that, well,

We're not going to ship it out, and now apparently it's reaching its supposed expiration date.

So rather than shipping it out and getting people to feed them, they're actually going to incinerate it, and it's going to cost us well and accessible $100,000 to destroy it.

Yeah, that was outrageous.

I saw that story, too.

We were going to have it on the show, but you have just

You have just grossed that something.

That is 500 metric tons of emergency food aid, enough to feed 1.5 million malnourished children for a week, and it's going to be incinerated tomorrow.

Is that tomorrow or today now, rather than be distributed?

Well, it's probably today, I mean.

Probably

today.

Yeah.

I left a message at Ron Johnson's phone and said, you know, what the hell are you going to do about this?

Yeah.

should actually be screaming bloody murder about that but of course they're not going to be and it is just it just shows the heartlessness and just complete lack

of

humanity criminal criminal that the food is just going to be destroyed but

you know what they're destroyed high energy biscuits intended for children under five living in war and disaster zones are currently being stored in a warehouse in Dubai the sheer

scale of waste is unprecedented.

Despite repeated assurances from the administration not to eliminate food aid, U.S.

warehouses around the world currently house 60,000 tons of food, including peas and cereal originally bound for famine-stricken Sudan, which the administration is now unable to deliver, even if it wanted to, after gutting USAID and firing logistical experts.

That's

what the story says.

There you go.

I know I saw this story too.

My heart just dropped.

I understand this.

Just a story alone would sink a presidency.

Normally.

Would normally have sunk a presidency.

This is just another story.

And the fact they don't have a choice now that USAID

doesn't really exist

anymore.

It

doesn't exist,

yeah.

I

just

think

that we should have just a big close order and we're shipping it out.

That's

just the damn consequences.

All right, Mark, thank you.

Okay, thanks,

brothers.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Gordy in the morning.

It's another fantastic day in the capital city, Madison.

Beautiful state street, looks as clean as it ever was.

They send the buffers out and the streets are shiny.

I don't

know

if that's

good in a rainy day, but you know.

Yeah, and the leaf blower guys, I'm sure they've been out there taking care of the leaves.

I'm sure they have.

653, yeah, sunshine this morning, but showers and thunderstorms for this afternoon, highs in the mid 80s.

And now it's time for us to check in with Judy Davidoff from Isthmus.

Good morning, Judy.

Good morning.

We're just checking on something here the Senate voted by a razor-thin margin late last night to actually advance debate on a package

of funding

This is all about the corporation for public broadcasting

And they're aimed at clawing back $1.1 billion previously allocated to the Corporation of Public Broadcasting.

And there's some other provisions in there, but so they're going to continue the debate, apparently, on this.

Right.

At least

for now.

I see that now, too.

So,

you know, the whole thing here is based on the fact that media has become so... I mean, there's so many...

media outlets now that you really don't need NPR anymore or federal funding for it.

We can go any place we want for the media that we prefer.

So let's get rid of NPR and just go with all the alternative podcasts and Breitbart and all the ones that people are depending on more now than ever before.

Joe

Rogan.

Yes, Joe Rogan.

So

you have an article in the recent Isthmus here that just came out a few days ago.

What's your take on it?

Yeah,

after all the interviews that you've done and the coverage you're doing on public radio, tell us what you've come up with.

Yeah, well, I focused pretty narrowly, at least in this column, on the recent cuts at Wisconsin Public Radio.

They announced that for

you know, pretty popular, yes, standing programs.

Yeah, we're going to be cutting, including to the best of our knowledge and sort of a pastor on your health.

And, you know, I think some people were kind of shocked.

But, you know, in talking to Sarah Ashworth, who's at the helm of WPR now, she talked to it's really not just the the looming cuts at the federal level.

It's also about

How people's listening habits have changed and so you know one of the I think it was and strange champs from to the best of our knowledge who said Do you know anyone who has a radio?

Still of course I do and I and I know you know some people do but yeah, there are so many people who are just you know going listening to things online so

you know, that cuts into the bottom line of public media.

It does.

You know, I listen to those programs many times.

They're weekend programs and they're just fantastic.

You know, I mean, you just can't.

believe that they would cut something like that.

And now, with the possible cuts, the clawbacks of funding, I can't imagine what's going to happen to all of these stations.

You know, a lot of these public stations are all through the state and they cover certain areas, geographic areas that people can't get other media.

from.

So this is really truly an important time in history.

This could be it.

This could be the way it completely clears out all the public radio stations in this country.

It's not all of them,

but just a

few will be left.

Yeah, no.

And then there's money for these emergency alerts.

You know that originate at least yes

with

public media Yeah, it's it's very very concerning and very unfortunate because of course, you know, we get great news reporting out of you know, both NPR and Wisconsin public radio as well as you know, the others

Well, you know, one of the, one of the great stories you have in here is downtown Madison fills out.

I mean, this is really fantastic.

You know, I took a walk down state street.

Uh, I was at three or four months ago and a lot of storefronts were empty, but they're filling up past 26 new businesses.

Yeah.

Isn't

that something?

Yeah.

It's quite a turnaround.

I mean, anyone who was around five years ago, the combination of COVID and some of the protests that did result in vandalism.

Stores were boarded up and people of course weren't going after in that time and You know there really has been a renaissance, but people have been working very hard to get people back in the stores foot traffic Tourism is booming and you know, I think the the only

I think it's still recognizable the difference at lunchtime, at least for those of us who work downtown that a lot of the office workers.

Have not returned.

So there's a little bit of a different vibe around the Capitol I think around lunchtime,

you know the store.

I really misses that sacred feather hat store that went out years ago.

I thought downtown was gonna die

after that love that place.

I know It

was everybody went in there just to see what kind

of

hat they could

they could wear right on me.

Yeah, they had a great selection too.

Yeah

Sad to see that one go.

Well, we only have a minute left here, Judy, but I do want to mention there was another article that's really in the news right now, duplex, the right thing city officials urged.

So there's been some talk on that.

And I think they've pushed that forward now.

I believe that all past last night.

Last night, yes.

But Judy, I believe so.

Judy, thanks for joining us.

We appreciate

it.

It's a great issue.

Another great

one.

Thank you

so much.

All right.

Isthmus

comes out

the

first Thursday of every month.

And that's when we try to talk to Judy.

right after it comes out after a few days and we appreciate her being with us.

We'll come back with more of John and Gordy and in our next hour Mike McCabe will join us.

Stay with us.

Yeah.

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It's John and Gordy in the early morning hours for you.

And we got a text here.

Is this from your neighbors?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fun fact, when Lyle Lovett played Overture, he would always go downtown to the Sacred Feather and buy some hats.

Thank you for that fun fact.

Yeah.

Sacred Feather was a great place.

I don't know why.

Well, they just probably had it, you know,

long enough, retired, and moved on.

Well, they had apartments above the Sacred Feathers.