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These are the times that try men's souls.
In the course of our nation's history, the people have rallied bravely whenever the rights of men have been threatened.
Today, a new crisis has arisen.
Citizens, hear me out.
This could happen to you.
Everything you said was all a lie.
What I say is what I say.
Okay, I want a damn concerted effort.
This is a goddamn damn time.
I want somebody to use his fucking brain.
This is a job for... John Peterson.
And... Party!
You're from the 60s.
I will tell you this is going to be something special.
It's a
nothing.
I don't have any answers for you.
I don't give interviews.
I just want to be left alone.
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Right
They avoided us.
Yeah.
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We'll get into the low 80s.
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53-pound thing.
You know, of course, the guy runs away and jumps in the truck there.
What are you going to do?
Well, I called Amazon.
I called him twice.
And then I flagged down.
You know, there's Amazon trucks all over the place.
Now, he'd just go out there for five or 10 minutes and flag one down.
That's what I did.
I said, look what happened here.
And I called.
And Amazon said, they don't know what's going on.
And he said, just keep it.
I said, I really just keep, you can't take it and do something with it?
He said, just keep it.
And it's here.
And I thought, well, that's stupid.
I'm not going to do that.
So then a little later on, another package arrives from UPS.
Same thing.
A
big
on it.
you can refuse a package.
I said,
great.
couldn't
out.
I spoke to top Justice Department officials and trust me when I say that there's no story here.
Jeffrey Epstein did not have a client list.
He did not get murdered in prison.
He actually never even existed.
I'll
be at the Dave and
Buster's down the street.
See you later, Ronnie.
Thanks,
buddy.
Wait, wait,
wait.
I call this the hold on.
Can you elaborate?
I'd be happy to elaborate.
I own the high score on Buck Hunter.
And that's a game at David Buster's, which is an adult arcade that I go to after work
every day.
No, no, no, not that.
I mean, they can't just say Jeffrey Epstein didn't exist.
We all saw photos of him.
We think we did.
But it was just one of those collective false memories.
It's like how many Americans believe there was a movie starring Shaquille O'Neal called Shazam.
But guess what?
There never was
a Shaquille O'Neal.
And
there's no Jeffrey Epstein.
See you at Busters.
Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait.
Then who's client list that Pam Bondi had on her desk?
That was all a misunderstanding.
It looked like a client list, but you know what it was?
It was actually just a list of an old BuzzFeed list of the top 10 Pokemon, most likely to help you jumpstart your car.
You want to talk scandal?
They only have Squirtle at number seven.
What is that?
Michael, how can you believe all this?
Ronnie.
Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you really think there's a cabal of millionaires out there who have the power to kill Jeffrey Epstein in prison and force the President of the United States to cover it up?
Well, when you say it out loud like that, yeah, I do.
And I do too,
all right?
And
I want that cabal to know that I'm just a guy with a high-scoring buck hunter who's happy with whatever explanation
they want me to believe.
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
So that's it then?
We're just going to move on.
There's
so many
other juicy scandals out there.
Have you seen this newly released Diddy client list?
check out the names on it.
Holy.
You know what?
Turns out this list actually never existed.
That's basically what they're trying to tell us.
Yeah, never existed.
Yeah, never existed.
Didn't really happen.
Well, adding more humor to the Wisconsin scene in politics, businessman and another Navy SEAL has thrown his hand into the race, running for governor this time, and it's Bill Barriand.
Bill Barrion.
Bill Barrion.
Yeah, he's got his own business.
Navy Seal, boy, you know, those Navy Seals, this is the next job for most of them, is politics for some reason.
Let's listen to cut 45 here.
Let's listen to this point of view.
President Trump is taking back Washington for the American people.
Now it's time to take back our state.
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin said Barion is, quote, rich enough to buy himself some attention and clueless enough to think that's going to work.
Where?
What?
Yeah.
Well, how do
And by the way, he has other incredible positions here.
These are quotes.
Okay.
What he's been doing with tariffs, with securing the border, a whole bunch of these efforts are changing the mix.
And they are very positive for the country.
Yeah.
They're changing the mix.
What does that mean?
What?
ethnically That's that's my impression of what he just said
with the
Yeah, it could be maybe he's also Supported Trump's decisions to call up the California National Guard over the objection of the state's Democratic governor.
So like if he's gonna be governor, yeah
Well, maybe the president can come in here and call up the National Guard without his permission.
I don't think he's thinking any of this through.
This guy, another crazy lunatic running for governor, and we haven't heard yet whether Governor Evers is going to run again.
poll and Dan Shaver's been covering that.
But here's the thing, there's a wrinkle in that.
There are so many Democrats who support Evers running again that it actually throws it into Governor Evers' favor.
Okay, because there are a whole bunch of Republicans that don't want them to run again like 97% of Republicans don't want them to run well because they're worried
and of
course there's like 90% of the Democrats want to see him run again And then the independence you throw them in and that puts them over the top and according to the market University poll apparently Governor Evers at this point according to this current poll is ahead of Scott Walker
at his midpoint where he ran again and won.
Despite the fact that he completely failed at running for president.
It was a disaster and
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Jim
You can listen to it on Saturday morning, nine to 11 o'clock.
He's got a lot of stuff to talk about and we're going to talk about some of that stuff right now.
And that is that the federal Supreme Court has said that Trump can do anything he wants.
He can overrule the legislative branch, no matter what, you know, he can get rid of departments and fire.
people, Jim, tell me, this isn't our biggest nightmare.
Tell me.
Depending upon how our own individual lives may play out, it may well be our own, our most significant administrative and constitutional nightmare as well.
You got it just right.
We've got this whole series of opinions, almost too numerous to inventory.
For example, you've got the Supreme Court, again, all these things, by the way, here's the other point.
All of these being issued on this show called Shadow Docket without an explanation.
We talked about this previously.
We've got the Musk team accessed all your social security administration.
Remember ending that humanitarian program that kept about a half a million immigrants from being deported who were facing war and political turmoil back in their own countries and removing the leaders of some two independent agencies, all of that.
And now we've got this.
Tuesday was a big day.
At Tuesday, the Supreme Court once again shadowed docket, no explanation other than the fact that the majority, it's an interesting majority, says that the government is likely to succeed in its argument that the president's executive powers are in fact there and he's got the right to downsize the government, all that's legal.
But we don't get any more description.
We don't get an explanation for that.
And basically it is a green light for him to go ahead and do all that.
You may recall that again he did this a number of months ago when he basically said all agencies get up and running, prepare to downsize dramatically.
Here, the Supreme Court has now said, sure, you can go ahead and do that.
And again, the big issue here for purposes of those of us who like transparency, and I know all your listeners do as well.
We don't have an explanation for it.
We do have one dissenter.
And her name is Katanji Brown Jackson.
And she says it's truly unfortunate.
It's hubris, it's senseless, and it undercuts the authority of trial judges.
But this is a nine to one non-decision.
Interestingly, the other two others, so-called liberals, are playing with the majority here.
And who knows, my first reaction was, maybe they're just exhausted with the fight.
At some point, this does become just overwhelming.
I have a quote from Jackson here.
It is warned that such an executive action promises mass employee terminations, widespread cancellation of federal programs and services, and the dismantling
of much of the federal government as Congress has created it.
So that's the end of the government.
Yeah,
A congressional action, they put in place things like, oh, I don't know, the Department of Education and the President Issues Directives to his secretary basically to shut it down.
All these other agencies, USCID,
the names again are too numerous even to list here and this is a very broad non-decision saying go ahead and do what you want
and it
should be a source of great concern especially since as we were talking in the break we kind of thought we were done with all of this a couple of weeks ago at the end of them the significant portion of their term
Apparently, they're more than happy to come in and do even more of it.
So we'll see what their summer brings as well.
but I
just also want to warn you too, because the guy in control of all the purse strings on this is the guy who came up with Project 2025.
It's Russell
vote, he's in charge of Office of Personnel Management, so OPM.
And he's gonna obviously take advantage of this.
This is what they've been trying to do for so many years, and that's why they've put so many of these cases or these ideas in front of the Supreme Court, because they know they've got a very welcoming bunch of justices to play into this.
And this has been their ideology for years, by the way, so it's nothing
Absolutely.
Again, depending upon your particular perspective, at a minimum, and it's not entirely bad.
I think we know that Bill Clinton attempted and did do some things to reduce government.
This has been the mantra of Democrats and Republicans.
We have to have a smaller government doing it this way, however, in violation of, as you said, basic constitutional and statutory and congressional mandates.
That's not the way to do it.
Katanji Brown-Jackson is onto something.
OPM absolutely.
I work for the government OPM was the big agency out there having to do everything related to personnel hiring firing Promotions they have to not pass on all that, but they're the ones who administratively handle all that
And the fellow who's in charge of that now, I'm sure, is delighted by this decision on Tuesday and saying, here we go.
Let's begin now.
Let's begin now, as if we haven't done this in the past, really, to go after all these agencies.
Why?
Because they're hiding under this simple one sentence statement that he's likely to win on the merits.
when this case gets litigated further, which is another part of the dock and another part of the problem.
And we don't know that either.
We've got Katanji Brown Jackson explaining her position.
Typically, in these cases, the others I mentioned, the other two do weigh in or at least join each other's opinions
and
as
This one is basically, again, OPM.
John, as you just said, take your pick and go ahead and find federal employees and decide to chop away.
It is not specific.
It's part of Cadence Brown Jackson's objection.
It's not specific as to agency, mission, and purpose, and absent that.
How are courts to decide this?
Well, we've got two of the others here.
Well, actually, we've got eight of the others who look at that and say, no problem.
Go ahead, Mr. President.
Do what you would like.
You know one of the things that we're looking at here is kind of a war on the Supreme Court bench Which I didn't anticipate we mentioned some of the program a few days ago And it wasn't just this case but other cases as well where you know the actual three liberals are starting to step out there and Say things publicly that they really disagree with and I think you know we didn't anticipate the Supreme Court having this dispute within
the court itself.
And with that, I think, you know, we're going to get some interesting stories and we're going to get some interesting perspectives on all of these decisions.
I think they're going to be in the forefront, basically, is what I'm saying.
And they're going to grab headlines, right?
Yeah.
And again, there have always been times when the minority, whatever that is, has taken
Um, Umbridge and, and, and objected to what the majority has said, you're absolutely right.
Most notably, we've got this sparring between Katanji Brown Jackson and Amy Coney Barrett.
In this case,
the most
significant of the, of the term, I believe, having to do once again with, uh, not just, uh, birthright citizenship, but national, uh, universal injunctions and they go after each other back and forth.
And Amy Coney Barrett names Katanji Brown Jackson.
by name in her majority opinion, which is very seldom happens.
We've always had disagreements, that's okay.
Now we're dropping the I respectfully dissent to simply say things like I dissent or with great sadness, with profound concern about the democracy,
Take a break.
Sometime often they're not going to take a break.
They're still going to rule on these immediate cases on the shadow docket anyway.
But there's even talk on the right now to get rid of Katanji Brown Jackson because she is stepping out too often for them.
She's speaking out too often, which I think has tinges of racial.
animus overtones right
that does,
in fact, prohibit national jurisdictions and injunctions, rather, and say, gosh, maybe this was her attempt to make good again with that part of the electorate that was critical of her for sometimes siding with the liberals.
Now she's back in our camp.
you know, this politics, the politicization of the court, not a good thing,
not a good
That's the rule
It again has shades of previous legal concepts out there.
And what happens is that the legislature's joint committee
For review of administrative rules, block that ban from taking effect.
and use the political maneuver of legislative authority to keep that rule shelved.
That is banning the conversion therapy that otherwise would be a part of the executive branch's decision-making.
Supreme Court, again, comes out, and a majority opinion written by Jill Karofsky says that this process whereby the legislature has basically usurped the right of the governor cannot stand a couple of reasons for that.
And we've got an important constitutional decision once again.
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that so you know Sean Duffy he's right out there man of many talents yeah another big case kind of a big case unusual the Supreme Court yesterday upheld a lower courts injunction preventing Florida from enforcing a law that criminalizes undocumented immigrants for entering their state
That's, I think, kind of a big decision because it seems to contradict a little bit the power that the six conservative justices are giving to the administration,
Right, right.
And again, the reason why this is significant, again, is just that.
You get it here.
for reasons, again, that we don't know about.
To the Supreme Court says we're not going to touch this particular matter.
And a lot of it has to do, I'm sure, with voting internally.
The reason why, obviously, is immigration.
It's obviously states engaging in issues that are typically within the ambit of the federal government.
Immigration, we tend to forget.
In the Constitution, this is James Madison stuff.
Supreme Court's saying, no, we're going to keep our hands off of this.
And also sending a message that again, there are more than a few states have done just this.
And so this has a dramatic impact beyond just the Supreme Court here saying we're not going to take up this state's action.
Everybody else has got to take a look at this too and think, huh.
I wonder if we are also running afoul of some basic principles here.
You know, it's their issue.
The immigration issue is the Republican issue, the mega issue.
And when you take a little piece away, you know, it might anger some of the magas out there and maybe even Trump at this point, although Trump is not really on board with a lot of things only because he doesn't know about them.
You know,
It is.
It involves, and frankly, all of us have difficulty from time to time keeping all of this straight and what the theory is here.
It's applied differently in this case.
There doesn't seem to be with due respect to justices out there.
a great deal of consistency.
You can find not a lot of through lines in some of these cases, but even so, for those who can, in fact, follow the basics on this, some fundamental principles, we talked about one of them before the break, which is Congress makes the laws, the executive branch is supposed to do what?
Execute
And not to be the sick, and this is the big one, undeniably.
We've seen this for the past five, almost six months now.
A president who is so proud to put his name on those executive orders, that's legislating.
And that's not what the founding fathers, to the extent that you are committed to the founding fathers and fundamental principles.
that's not the way it's supposed to work and typically presidents have done that when they've been frustrated in immigration areas when the congress doesn't act here we're not even letting the congress act not that they would anyway but
too busy apparently shutting down medicaid and other things like that but but the issue the larger issue of separation of powers
who does what?
And then you get to the larger issue, which we've talked about as well, which is we've got a Supreme Court, all of these issues we've talked about in the areas this morning, other places.
You have to ask yourself, why is it that the Supreme Court is deciding on all of these things?
Shouldn't that be the legislature?
We elect those folks to make these policy decisions.
And it's because the other branch, one of them is overreaching.
The other one is not acting at all.
And in that chasm, in that emptiness, Supreme Court steps in and says, OK, we'll decide on environment and education and commerce and labor and all these other things.
That's not the way it's supposed to be.
We've gotten used to it now.
But it's not the way it's supposed
You absolutely nailed it on that.
And it's become normalized as well.
But the House, the Senate, they have just given up.
Seated their power to the president and this is going to come back to haunt him as soon as there's a Democratic president and power absolutely all of this is going to come back and You know one of the things I heard that Stephanie Miller the other day and I thought this was kind of interesting You know talking about the wildfires in California, right and he wants to calm those for she wants to calm them
But, you know, these are federal forests.
And that
would take
Jim Santel, thank you for joining us.
Always appreciated.
Always delighted.
And you can listen to Jim Santel's show, Amicus, a law review every Saturday on the Civic Media Radio Network from 9 to 11 a.m.
All right, we'll talk to him next Thursday.
That's it for us today coming up tomorrow rocker in the studio with a maxing preview also Savannah Tomate Olson and a whole lot more join us tomorrow So long.
All right.
See you
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