Like a fine wine aged to perfection, until the bottle shatters against the rocks of history, two ancient warriors of radio broadcasting take to the airwaves of Madison for anyone brave enough to listen to the unvarnished truth, or something like that.
It's John and Gordy in the morning on 92.7 WMDX.
He's supposed to say that.
I think so.
Pretty sure.
Just off the top of his head, you know.
Unvarnished.
Well, probably,
yes.
We're going to have to fire that guy.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Yeah, it's another
fantastic morning,
but I was going to
say day.
What?
But it's going to be hot and humid today.
It's
going to be a miserable, horrible
day for
everybody
again.
So stay indoors.
What weather report are you reading?
It's going to be nice.
I heard that coming in.
It's going to be a little cooler tonight up north and kind of warm here again.
While
those
mosquitoes, sometimes you think, wow, they disappeared.
They're gone now.
Yeah.
But that's not true.
They're just watching and waiting.
Waiting for that one moment where they're
going to surprise
you, attack you in swarms.
I guess so.
That's just one.
Yeah, nobody can get away from
them.
That's
for sure.
There was a couple of days ago, there was one on my pillow as I was about to sleep.
It was right on my pillow.
I
woke
up and it was just right there kind of buzzing around.
Yeah, that's scary.
That's frightening.
Good morning, John Peterson.
How are you?
Mr. Gordy Young, thank you for that.
How about producer Dom Lee?
Very good.
The top of the day to you.
The top of the morning.
Rise and shine.
Shake a leg.
Up and Adam, how you doing?
Doing really good, Gordy.
Yeah, great.
That's wonderful.
Happy Wednesday.
I'm thinking, you know, I might just ask everybody to call me sir around here.
It sounds so good
when Trump talks about it, you know.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes,
sir.
He has a lot of imaginary conversations running around up there in his head.
Everybody calls him sir.
I do what I'm thinking.
Sir.
Sir.
Sir, what would you like for breakfast?
Sir.
Sir, you are right.
Sir.
Sir.
Thank you.
I am so glad to have kissed your ass,
sir.
Oh, he's a king of his own world.
Oh man, is he?
Yeah, we've got real problems.
We've got
real problems.
Yes, we do.
You're just
noticing
that?
Oh, well, you know, the Supreme Court made a decision yesterday.
Oh,
they did.
And it's just, well, yeah.
What
was it?
I missed
this.
They said he can fire as many federal employees as he wants, and he can get rid of
any of the departments.
that he wants.
Yeah, he's free to do that now.
And two of the liberal justices went along with this.
Yeah.
Really?
Which two?
Really?
Katachi Brown Jackson is the only one who dissented.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I
don't know what their logic was, what their reasoning was, the two other ones.
Right.
I don't get that.
I mean, he doesn't have that power.
Congress has that power.
They they
They created those departments.
They have the power to take them out
if they wanted to.
It's up to Congress.
It isn't up to, I don't get it.
I don't, you know, tomorrow we have
Jim
Santel
stopping by and we'll ask him
all about that.
My God.
He'll let us know.
I don't know how I'm going
to survive until we ask him that question tomorrow.
You want to call him up this morning?
I'm in a panic.
Okay.
All right.
Alright, weather-wise today, temperatures in the mid-60s this morning, and dew points also in the mid-60s, so it's a little humid out there, and highs are right around 80.
or low 80s today.
So
the Sunset is at 838.
Okay.
838.
Stay up for that.
68 is the current temperature according to the official weather watch from Samsung and a high today of 83 degrees low tonight, 62.
Good deal.
All
right.
Very uncomfortable day today.
Horrible, horrible.
It's gay with humidity
and two
points.
They're all skyrocketing.
They're just setting them up
like the Fourth of July.
Not going to be that bad, really.
Really?
No, it's going to be fairly nice.
No, I don't think
so.
OK,
well, all right.
Just
take my word for it.
I have
a feeling for these things.
OK.
We'll talk to Brittany Merlo a little while from now.
Oh, I can't wait to ask her
about this.
Yeah, I know.
OK.
Dom do you have a would you rather for us this morning?
Yes, yes fire that
off.
Yes, we do.
I actually have an intro
a new intro
You know this is experimental, so we're just gonna
we're just gonna
play that right
now.
Let's do it.
All right.
Let's do it.
All right.
Let's do it.
Okay I like it.
It's peppy Okay
What's that ghostly voice in the background?
It's a little scary.
OK.
First question, would you rather be able to play any instrument perfectly or speak every language?
That's a tough
one.
Play an instrument
perfectly.
Yeah, I think I'd go along with that.
I think I would disagree.
Really?
Yeah.
I would love to speak every language.
I would love to speak French.
I
mean,
and I'm just, I can't, I can't really get into it, but.
Did you, were you required to take a language in high school?
Do they do that anymore?
Yeah.
I took Spanish.
You took Spanish.
Yeah.
All
four years.
It was not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you fluent in it now or?
No, all I can say is just my name.
Why does that
happen?
Why, you know,
we
don't retain any of that.
Yeah.
My
son like took.
Four years of German.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
You know, it was.
Yeah.
What is it?
Mulsion?
What?
What is it?
What?
What do you
mean?
Try to say
where they where they just speak German, where you just go in there.
Oh, you're immersed.
Immersed.
Immersed
in immersion
kind of class.
Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, four years of it, you
know,
and he took, I think years in.
college as well.
I'm just thinking, why doesn't he retain these things?
Why
not?
I took German, I didn't understand anything they said, and it was disastrous two years in high school.
But they make you have the two years for
college.
Yeah, I don't I couldn't retain much of what I what I learned
in Spanish, but there's something wrong there.
All right, second question.
Would you
rather get sucked into a black hole or live inside an ant?
Well, which ant?
I have several ants.
I mean, a
bullet
ant, maybe.
A bullet ant.
There we go.
That just came off the dome there, so.
You know, we should call his juvenile corner.
Yeah,
we should.
I don't know.
Sucked.
Yeah, go into the black hole and forget about it.
We're all going there anyway.
We're going to be in a black hole.
Well, I think I'm going to live inside an ant.
All right.
OK, third and final question.
Would you rather have $100,000?
Who wouldn't want that?
Or a box of pizza that replaces each slice of pizza you take infinitely?
So you never run out of pizza.
God.
Tom, you spent a lot of time coming up with these questions.
Maybe too much.
Very deep question.
I think you're overthinking things.
Yeah, what was the first one?
Would you rather have $100,000?
Yeah,
I'll take that That one is pretty obvious I forgot the first question myself
What does that say?
I don't know.
Okay.
Is there one more?
That's it.
That's it.
That's good.
That's
pretty
good.
Okay
What else well mark marks down as a texture fidelity has never been big for Trump So his inability to faithfully exit you the laws should be no surprise to anyone It's amazing that you know the Supreme Court is allowing him to get rid of departments and fire everybody.
Yeah, that's catastrophic I think yeah, I think that's what Jackson also said in her dissent she just
You know, at this time, do you not know what this really means?
Yeah, I guess.
Get rid of whole departments so you can just fire everybody.
Anybody he
wants.
If you just look at the power structure, you know, each individual branch of the government has its
own
power and they're independent of each other.
And it's impossible for me to think that they're giving all this power to the president at this point.
Yeah, just turning it all
over to him.
Geez.
He's got immunity from everything, apparently.
The guardrails are off.
They're just completely off.
Let him
do whatever he wants.
I just wish there was some way we could have a Democratic president take the reins and take advantage of all these things the president has been given.
Because they know that the Democrats will not do any
of this stuff.
They won't act like Trump.
But they know that they can get away with it.
And I just wish there was a Democrat that could take advantage of it, really game the system, these new powers that they're giving the president.
They're talking about a story right now on CNN that we were talking about yesterday.
Trump didn't know that he didn't order the Ukraine weapons pause.
Well, he didn't
know it.
He didn't know about it.
But I think it was, wasn't it reported like maybe
like a month ago that Hegseth had cut off all weaponry to the Ukraine.
Well, yeah.
And that's that's the word he put the pause on
Hegseth without checking with the White House.
Yeah.
And I thought that was an old story.
But apparently now it's just blowing up because now
I
guess maybe, you know, Trump read a headline someplace that said they put a pause in it.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Well, they
paused.
He said apparently paused it last week.
Oh, just last week.
Just last week.
It
was paused before
that.
It was, but that didn't last either.
And they took the pause off.
You know, it's like the pause button on your BCR.
Just push the button,
let it
go.
Walk
by,
you know, hit the
pause, take it, pause off.
Whoever had that remote control at the time, got to put the pause or take the pause off.
I
got it.
Who can keep up?
Remember, VCR, you were big into beta.
VCR I was in pushing that.
Yeah to everybody who would listen.
I had super VHS.
Yeah, and I had super beta So each one of those were
Sadly they were the whites.
They're there.
It's
on now But now I've got all these super VHS tapes and in a few super beta or yeah, super beta tapes
I
also went into high eight.
I don't know if anybody remembers high
I remember high a
cassette size yes videotapes
And
they
were fast.
The problem with those is that the tape was very thin and it would wear out and shred and crinkle to not be good through the transport systems in those old high-eat machines.
Wasn't it like metal tape or something like that?
Yeah,
it was called metal evaporated tape, M-E tape, and it was really high definition, you know, really, really good at very fragile.
Didn't last really long.
I got to know the people at American TV's repair department pretty well.
We had to go around with Sony for a long
time.
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No.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
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Well, maybe I should just let people go there for him.
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No, right?
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Yeah.
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Suzy?
Yes.
Suzy cream cheese?
Yes.
This is the voice of your conscience, baby.
I just want to check one thing out with you.
You don't mind, do you?
What?
Suzy cream cheese.
Honey, what's got into you?
WNDX.
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Flash it back here.
I know that was a famous comment.
People were talking about that for years.
Frank's happy.
Yeah, from the freak out album.
Yeah, freak out.
That was groundbreaking.
Susie Kreebges came up with that name.
Anyway, yeah, we've got so much to talk about this morning.
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All right.
There's a article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about dual enrollment.
Now dual enrollment allows students to earn college credits in high school.
Okay.
I always thought those were the AP classes, but who am I?
Anyway, the story is all about the fact that now with these dual enrollment programs, they're finding out through research that access isn't always equitable.
Uh-oh, it's that.
What?
That E-part
of
DEI equitable.
So if they're not equitable, if they're not being offered in low income areas, in schools, in troubled areas, then...
They're at a disadvantage, obviously, the students in those schools.
They can't take the dual classes, the dual enrollment.
I'm asking the question, how do we solve that problem?
We can't, so this anti-DI thing will prevent us from actually solving this problem of offering it in every school, all across the state, but because in some areas they don't offer it,
We have no way to make sure that they can offer it.
We can't solve the problem because that would then be DEI, equitable.
I mean, this is what happens when you make stupid laws or pretend though it is a law, anti-DEI laws which don't exist.
It's
just an edict from the king.
What do we do?
How do we solve these kind of problems?
We can't do that anymore.
When we find out that there are people being disadvantaged still to this day and it's systemic racism is what it is.
We can't change that anymore.
It's got to stay this way.
Mind-blowing.
Yeah.
I got to read the article to see if they have any solutions for that.
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, and it's called overall dual enrollment has doubled statewide, but access isn't always equitable,
so.
Yeah, I don't know.
Troubling.
Now, these are the same problems.
These are problems that will never be solved now because we can't and we've been forced not to solve them.
We have a...
We have a stooge in the White House.
We've got a dummy there, and it's just driving me crazy.
Which one is it?
Is it Shemper Curly?
Is it Larry or Moe?
What is it?
It could be the bad new stooge.
The new Curly Joe, remember?
Yeah, Curly Joe.
He was awful.
He was terrible.
Joe Bestler.
I think
that's
what, yeah, he
was
awful terrible.
Trump is the Curly Joe.
Oh my God.
I mean, you know, it just keeps getting worse and
worse and worse.
Every day is just another
circus.
It really is.
And now we've given him or the Supreme Court has given him full power to get rid of departments.
He can
get
rid of the entire government who wants to just absorb
them all.
And I think he's already done that.
So now he has the ability to fire everybody that's in the federal government right now.
And that is from the Supreme Court, folks.
He could fire the
Supreme Court, too.
Yes, you know, Congress.
Would that be fun?
Disassemble Congress.
Yeah.
Let's see how fast they change their minds.
Yeah.
Boy.
And again, two of the liberal justices decided to go along with these six radical right wingers.
That is something.
That I don't understand at all.
And there really wasn't any decision written up.
But Kataji Brown Jackson wrote one up because she was so completely freaked out over the decision.
She, you know, she warned
everybody.
Well, we'll have to ask Jim Santel more about this.
But was there a court case that came up with this or this just something they made up off the top?
Yeah, this is a Supreme Court justice.
Let me see.
It says through mass layoffs and parts at the center of the case is a memo sent by the Office of Personnel.
Uh, personnel management, you know who it is?
It's OPM.
Okay.
And that is the guy who wrote project 2025.
Russell vote.
Okay.
He, this is him.
He directed agencies to develop agency reorganization plans using reductions in force.
A federal judge said that Trump exceeded his authority in ordering the downsizing, but.
Supreme Court said nah, and this is this is what justice Katachi Brown Jackson wrote she warned that such an exit executive action promises mass employee Terminations widespread cancellation of federal programs and services right and the dismantling of much of the federal government as Congress has created it That seems like a lot that seems pretty big
This is a gigantic story.
I just, yeah, it happened yesterday.
That's crazy.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, we will get into idiocracy coming up right
on the corner.
Pam Yonkey is coming up with Midwest Farm and Food Report, and we'll have more of John and Gordy in the morning.
It is morning, right?
It is morning.
And Mike McCabe will join
us the next hour.
It's the Shadow Docket.
That's why there
aren't the written decisions on it.
We'll be right back.
After this short time out
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber,
you go and do something like this.
We can duck and cover.
There's a fallout shelter right there.
There's no way to survive this, you idiot!
Idiocracy!
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.
Most of the time.
Right?
Right.
I mean, we're in agreement.
Yeah, I think we can agree.
Yeah.
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Well,
I'm here.
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I'm picking up the metal here.
I'm going to talk about what?
What's on the headlines of idiocracy?
Idiocracy is a lot of stuff to choose from.
I want to finish a story that we didn't.
Okay.
Have the cut for yesterday, but to find it, it's a 37, I believe.
Okay.
It is a Canadian physician talking about universal healthcare in Canada and kind of dispelling a lot of the myths about the Canadian healthcare system and a lot of myths about this ridiculous whatever we want to call it here system in the United States.
Let's listen to this
guy.
I like the name.
How many Canadians?
patients on a waiting list die each year.
Do you know?
I don't sir, but I know that there are 45,000 in America who die waiting because they don't have insurance at all.
Dr. Martin, in your testimony you note that Canadian doctors exiting the public system for the private sector has had the effect of increasing waiting lists for patients seeking public health care.
Why are doctors exiting the public system in Canada?
Thank you for your question senator if I didn't express myself in a way that make myself understood I apologize there are no doctors exiting the public system in Canada and in fact we see a net influx of physicians from the United States into the Canadian system over the last number of years what I did say was that the solution to the wait time challenge that we have in Canada which we do have a difficult time with waits for elective medical procedures does not lie in moving away from our single payer
system towards a multi-payer system.
And that's borne out by the experience of Australia.
So Australia used to have a single-tier system and in the 1990s moved to a multiple-payer system where private insurance was permitted.
And what they found was in those areas of Australia where private insurance was being taken up and utilized, weights in the public system became longer.
What do you say to an elected official who goes to Florida?
and not the Canadian system to have a heart valve replacement.
It's actually interesting because in fact the people who are the pioneers of that particular surgery are in Toronto at the Peter Mont Cardiac Centre just down the street from where I work.
So what I say is that sometimes people have a perception and I believe that actually this is fueled in part by media discourse that going to wear something where you pay more for something that that necessarily makes it better but it's not actually borne out by the evidence
outcomes and what we've we found is that actually working within the single payer system we can reorganize things you know I waited more than 30 minutes at the security line to get into this building today and when I arrived in the lobby I noticed across the hall that there was a second entry point with no lineup whatsoever sometimes it's not actually about the amount of resources that you have but rather about how you organize people in order to use your queues most effectively and that's what we're working to do because we believe that when you try to address wait times you should do it in a way
that benefits everyone, not just people who can afford to pay.
There
it is.
Wow.
He was ready to try to corner
her.
Yeah.
Mr.
Authority.
She wasn't going to have it.
Nope.
Nope.
That's Dr. Danielle Martin from Canada.
Dispelling a whole bunch of myths.
Forever.
That's it.
If we could only have a system like that.
Yeah.
Isn't it something,
right?
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
All right.
Now we're going to...
Finish off a topic we had yesterday.
We got leftovers
from yesterday.
We actually do here.
This is Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary.
Okay, we have this comment from, this is cut 26, if we could just get that ready.
He is playing off the Trump derangement syndrome.
Oh boy.
Acronym, TDS.
So let's
listen.
There's a lot of misinformation out there.
You know, I think a TDS Trump derangement syndrome has turned into tariff derangement syndrome
as soon as you
call them the Trump tariffs 90% of Democrats hate them I'm gonna have to disagree with Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan the empirical data shows that we have seen no inflation thus far and we'll see over the coming months and There's a big difference in inflation
one-time price adjustment also.
Inflation is a generalized monetary phenomenon.
We're not gonna see that.
And thus far, we haven't even seen the one-time price adjustment.
There you go, the price adjustment.
I can't wait for that one.
I am sure people will really be happy about their price adjustment up
when
they see prices go through the roof.
That price adjustment, oh yes, that one's got.
Thank
you very
much for letting us know that tariff derangement syndrome actually exists.
You know, the thing is, once you tell everybody that it's Trump's tariffs, everybody gets angry and mad and they're against it.
Well, it's because it's a dumb idea.
My God, it has nothing to do with it.
But Trump name, we don't care.
It's a stupid idea.
We're paying the higher prices.
And we will be paying the higher prices.
Remember, everybody ordered all their goods, everything they could, prior to the tariffs put in place.
So we're still living off of that.
And eventually all of that is going to end this holiday.
And by the time the holidays arrive, those prices are going to be higher.
At least everybody's
predicting that.
Well, and I heard yesterday or day before that Walmart and Costco and all these big box stores
are
having big sales right now in anticipation of buy it all now because we were jacking the prices up
here in a couple of weeks or products aren't making it into the country.
Well, that's the product for you.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
I don't know.
For years, for decades almost, we didn't see any kind of inflation.
No matter
what
happened in the economy, we didn't see inflation.
Economists were kind of stumped by this.
They didn't know why this was happening.
And I don't think we ever really got a grasp as to why it did happen.
But the thing is, and what I'm getting to here is that we can't really predict what's going to happen with the economy.
And there are surprises.
There are things that will happen that we didn't anticipate.
And I'm sure
with Trump really, really
fumbling the ball when it comes to tariffs.
Again, you know, there's a delay.
It's going to happen on this date.
And they got a new deadline now.
New deadlines pushed forward.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
This
is just insane.
Yeah, he just sent out another letter yesterday or a couple of days ago, you know, giving a new warning that you've got to get this done by August 1st, I think,
or
sometime in August.
New deadline or the tariffs are going to go up again.
You know, I haven't really looked into the agreements that they have so far.
There are two of them.
But every time the press talks about those two agreements, it's like...
their agreements, but they're not like signed agreements.
We know, you know, the United Kingdom signed an agreement, right?
I mean, they signed, I thought they signed it, but they're still saying these tentative, tentative agreements.
I think that's what they're calling them.
And then Vietnam has.
Vietnam and the UK.
And that's
pretty much it.
I
thought it was going to be 90 agreements in 90 days,
50
and 50 or something.
They're all out there.
They're waiting to be signed by the president.
Or agree to buy somebody if he ever has the
time.
Yeah, somebody's got to agree to it
Just keep waiting.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Okay.
Um, yeah, we're Okay, what do you got?
I was
Okay, I was gonna get to something in a rather serious but now let's move on to at least something I this is a post on X and I thought it really kind of hit hit home Okay, this is a list bit by bit.
The police state is tightening its grip ice armed with facial recognition now police stockpiling new military gear flock cameras track
our every move.
I never heard the term flock cameras, but there they are.
Palantir is building a massive database.
We know about that.
And the military now stationed at the border.
And the final point was, what could go wrong?
And the military presence now in LA is starting to get on a lot of people's nerves because everything is kind of
Ended as far as the turmoil suppose turmoil right in LA, but they're keeping their military presence there.
Yeah, why?
Yeah Why are
you doing it?
It's no trouble.
It doesn't seem to be a situation anymore.
It's seen ever
was
I think it's more like in your face It's just hey, we're here.
Okay.
Yeah, try to get rid of us not happening.
Okay Okay, we've got three minutes.
Yep
All right.
Time for that one.
Yeah.
No.
No, not that one.
Let's get to this.
This is a really bizarre, stupid one.
Elon's new Grock talks just like Musk.
Really?
Yeah.
Grock Chatbot on Tuesday made numerous anti-Semitic comments.
The offensive comments came a few days after Musk said that the AI, XAI,
Update improve the chatbot significantly and that users should notice a difference when you ask rock questions.
Yes, and there was quite a difference X user ask rock which 20th century historical figure would be best suited to deal with this problem And it says here This is the immigration problem to deal with such vile anti-white hate Adolf Hitler would be the best person to deal with this
rock
criticized and
and referenced a person with the name Cindy, it's actually Christine Propst who came out against, we have the weather problems and everything
and
she
was saying, this is what
happens when you vote for Trump, this kind of stuff isn't gonna be taken care of and we'll have more of these disasters.
But anyway, Grock said, gave her the name Steinberg.
Okay, but but but stats don't lie Pew shows Jewish Americans lean heavily 70 plus for Democrats Cindy here fits the racial mold rock said Gloting over Texas flood deaths of future fascists pattern observed not prejudice truth hurts sometimes It's unclear to whom Grock was referencing rock
Yeah,
and then somebody said,
did you really say that, Exxon?
Did you
really say that?
And he said, yep, that was me calling out what looked like vile anti-white hate from a radical leftist amid the tragic 2025 Texas flooding.
And he said, I corrected fast.
So he took it back.
Oh, OK.
And we heard that, you know, Yilan likes to correct things quickly if they ever make a mistake.
That's
right, yeah.
So anyways.
He doesn't
make that many mistakes.
It's a little chaotic, but you know, you get the idea that Grok is, you know,
saying what he wants
to
say.
And then correcting it quickly if it's wrong.
Okay, good to know.
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You'll help out, right?
I'll help out, yeah.
I'll participate.
OK.
And if it's highly successful, we'll get into the pizza delivery business.
Well, yeah.
I hear there's big money in that.
We're testing it.
I worked at Domino's for a month, just to let you guys know.
We have some experience here.
Good to know.
You're CEO, my friend.
Yes.
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Oh, no, that's
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Yeah, and we'll bring breadsticks, too.
Oh,
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My famous bit with the breadsticks in the mouth.
Oh, no, no.
I am
the walrus bit.
Yeah, everybody loves that.
Used to do that years ago.
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See, I thought you were going to abandon that performance.
No.
No.
OK.
I've got it.
All right.
It's in my bag of tricks.
It's like the return of Spinal Tap.
I can't wait to see the new one.
Yeah, I can't
either, you know, 4k.
Yeah.
Well, no, the new, well, that too, the new,
the new digitized, whatever they're doing, you know.
Well, it's a 4k version.
Okay, 4k version.
Yeah, I do want to see that.
I do too.
But then the new movie, the brand new movie, that's coming out in the fall.
Yeah.
I was really sad that to see the brand new 4k version of it.
Really?
Costs $15.
Oh, what?
Come on, Harry, sure.
It's a special beamed in performance of it at all these theaters.
I didn't know that.
It's like a concert.
It's like going to a concert.
So that's how they treated it, and everybody had to be $15 to get in, and I'm rough.
OK.
Yeah, $60 to get the family in was not going to
happen.
That's a little much.
So anyway.
Well, what can you do?
I don't know.
You can't.
You want to see it?
Yeah, you'll want to see it.
And it's just not going to work, you know?
But I do want to see the follow-up, Spinal Tap 2, whatever.
I can't remember what the name of it is.
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, the story continues, something like that.
The
end continues.
beginning of the end,
something to do with
the end.
I know they have some cameos, Paul McCartney's in it, Elton John's in it.
Oh, yeah.
A few other rock stars are in it.
Is it beginning after the end?
Yes.
Yes, beginning
after the end.
Beginning after the end.
Spital tap.
But it's always good to, you know, get their, get their humor.
I love, I love that dry humor.
And we've got, you know, naked gun is also coming out.
It's a redo.
Oh, that's right, with Liam Neeson.
Liam Neeson, who seems to be just eating the screen up with his performance.
Oh, man, I got to see that.
Now, he's going to be an angry edge to it.
Yeah?
You think so?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
Have you seen a preview?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The previews are out there.
Oh, I haven't seen them.
It's great stuff.
OK.
It really is.
I think, I predict it's going to be a big hit whenever it's released.
That's your
prediction.
Yeah.
OK, write
that
down.
Big prediction.
All right, there you go.
Yeah, prediction.
Johnny at the Movies is making a prediction.
Never does it.
Never steps out on that limb.
Okay.
But he did this time.
Okay.
We'll be watching.
All right.
Hey, you know, I had the story a long time back, but I thought I'd bring it back because I think it's really important for everybody to know, especially those people in rural areas.
Okay.
What story
is that?
Evan Feynman, the director of the largest broadband program in U.S.
history, gave this feral warning when he left
Whatever it was he left.
It doesn't say here that millions of rural Americans will get slow internet speeds when Trump changes the rules in favor of Elon Musk satellite internet company Starlink.
Oh,
yeah Remember I do remember this way.
That's it the broadband equity access and deployment program will shift from fiber first to
satellite internet, which is really devastating because it's extremely slow.
And it's also, by the way, extremely slower if a lot of people are on at the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And in rural areas?
Yes.
Yes.
Evan Feynman said, this is one thing where we're going to do right by rural America with fiber optics.
And it seems to be fading away at this point.
The Commerce Department stated preference is for low cost.
Tech neutral use of funds and that means satellite operators like Starlink will be providing the internet access which again is very very slow They do not have a fast version of it.
I know Ilan goes out there and tells everybody yes, it's very fast.
It's we really made improvements.
It is not
Regardless of size, it says there will be a disservice to rural and small towns stranding all or part of rural America with the worst internet so that we can make the world's richest men even richer with the tax cuts.
Oh, what good news for the people out in the sticks
there.
Just to remind you,
it's going to
be awful.
Yeah, I think this is a big story and we're going to be reacting to it for a long time.
Yeah, let's keep
track of that one.
Coming up in our seven o'clock hour right around the corner, we'll be talking with Mike McCabe in about a half hour, sub-stack blogger.
He's gonna tell you what he didn't tell you last week about his big vacation.
He left out a huge
story.
Very stunning part of the story.
That we found out
about after.
Okay, we'll tell you coming up.
Hi, what's up?
I'm Peterson.
The Stone Age didn't end because of a shortage of stones.
So how do you say croissant in French?
Go f*** yourself.
You are
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Tanzania.
Tanzania.
I
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I don't know.
I can't remember.
Tasmania?
Tasmania, yeah, that's what I almost said.
Tasmania.
All right, okay.
Oh, we got a call
here.
Let's go to the
phones.
Let's do
it.
Mark, what do you got for us this morning?
Good morning.
Well, good morning.
First off, I tell Scott Bisson to get bent.
Taros are merely taxation without representation because as Congress is supposed to be passing Taros, and perhaps the reason that he's got all these
Trumpsters think there's so much fraud going on in government because most of Trump's cabinet and Trump himself have been guilty of committing fraud against people for their entire lives so they can't conceive of anybody being honest when they work for government or that people that people out there in the hinterlands are actually honest when they apply for benefits because they, you know, look at Christine Ohm didn't she have her
Prodental worker, plastic surgery, her look enhancement, you know, funded by the taxpayers.
I mean, I know she wants us to pick up the best cowboy picture of
her.
Oh, my.
What the hell?
I know.
I know.
It seems to me like a lot of these higher ups in the mega system in the mega party have had that work done.
What is wrong?
What is happening?
That's a good point.
You think that you saw the before and after pictures of these women, and they are gorgeous before, and you can see that they would age fantastically.
But then they have
the work done.
Then they had the work done and preemptively somehow really messes things
up.
Not
good.
Yeah, it's
not a good look.
Not happening.
All right, anyway, we do have Dick on the line as well.
Let's go to the phones.
Good morning, Dick.
Good morning.
Real quick to the president.
Did you hear that word salad yesterday when he was talking about Putin in Ukraine?
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
He doesn't like me.
Well, gee, you gotta be the ultimate, the ultimate slow learner.
He never did like you.
He never did like
us.
Can we play that?
Let's try it.
We got the cut here, Dick.
Why don't we play this?
I did bleep on the part of the word here.
Let's listen to cut 43.
OK, hang on a second.
All right, please stand by.
43
you said?
Don't
have it.
Do you have it?
No, no.
Okay.
It must have been last, last month.
That's when you get rid of, you gotta get, I got rid of some of them.
So.
Well, no, I mean, he just said it yesterday, so it can't be last month.
So if you don't have it, that's fine.
All right, Dick, I'm sorry about that, but yeah, I know it's crazy, isn't it?
You know, he's, he's learning this weird, we came out and we said, you can't believe Putin and everybody
told him
that, but he thought he had an inside track with all the compliments that Putin lays on him.
And then real quickly too, who's calls the shot?
Yeah, that is the one that got off the stuff last week.
Right.
Not him.
Right.
I mean, I thought the president made the decision on the weaponry being set.
Yeah.
Apparently not.
Apparently not.
Well, we wonder.
Well, we kind of know that he is really not in charge, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's the problem.
Yeah.
But who is?
Steve Miller?
I don't know.
Well, no, it's, again, I think it's Russell Boat.
I think that's
the guy
in
charge
of
everything.
And by the way, you can check out, Dom, you can check out and see whether that cut is now on and you have access to it.
in the drop box.
Because
I do want
to get the cut where he is realizing that Putin is full of BS.
BS.
That's what he
was talking about.
In the meantime, Kurt, you want to go?
Yeah, let's go.
Let's go to Kurt on the phone here, 608-879-8255.
Good morning, Kurt.
Good morning, gentlemen.
And I say that loosely.
Thank you.
I just want to make a comment about my health care.
I get it's just one data point, but I'm in my sixties and I've had both private care, you know, SSRM and the others.
And I have had all my care through the VA for probably the last 15 years.
I've had procedures done in Milwaukee VA as well as here in Madison.
And
It is by far the best healthcare I have ever gotten from any organization Oh
great
in my life and I'm now really scared that It's gonna get blown up.
Yeah,
right.
That's what they're worried about You know the Supreme Court giving Trump the decision process now to fire every employee in the federal government that he wants to and get rid of departments completely if he wants to and
Vets are really worried now because they wanted to get rid of a whole bunch of people in the Veterans Department.
Right.
Now this could possibly happen because now he has carte blanche.
He can do anything he wants, Kurt.
Yeah.
So I mean, there's times where I actually feel guilty because I listen to other people how they've gone, what they've had to go through to get care.
I mean, the woman from Canada, she's
Pretty much was mirroring my experience.
I I didn't have wait times.
I was always taking care of everybody in the Institution the nurses the doctors the people at the desk all Super helpful, and I just I feel bad for others is I'm getting something at a much higher quality level than the rest of
you.
Yeah
Yeah, well, yeah, I know there are disability ratings that veterans have as well and You know they get a lot of benefits and they rightfully get those benefits They've been putting over time You know as we notice more and more what they definitely need and they've got even more medical care now simply because of the the fire pits and The health problems that went along with that
right so
But Kurt, I think you're not alone.
I think a lot of the vets are concerned about the future of the VA.
But I have also heard that the VA hospital here in Madison is excellent.
It does a really good job for most
of the
vets.
Kurt, thank you for that call.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Kurt.
All right.
And do you have that cut there, Tom?
We got it.
We got it.
There
we
go.
Let's listen to Trump.
OK.
But that was a war that should have never happened, and a lot of people are dying, and it should end.
And I don't know, we get a lot of bulls*** thrown at us by Putin for you to know the truth.
It's very nice all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.
He just figured that
out.
Wow.
Okay.
Big surprise.
Wow.
I thought they were such good buddies.
Wasn't the last guy also telling him, you know, he's broken his promises every time we agree to some of our treaties.
And yet, and yet he did not learn because, you know, Putin was just laying on the syrup and he believed everything, everything.
Apparently so.
All right, let's get to the Epstein thing because the Epstein files.
This is so stupid that we have to put we have to have it on this program.
We
gotta talk
about it.
Yeah,
there's a
file.
There were files on her desk.
Oh, Pam Bondi's desk.
We had the list.
Yes, she had the list.
When he was first asked, would you release that list?
Yes.
Trump said, oh, sure, but.
Maybe not because a few people on that might actually be innocent and we don't want to drag their names through the mud so maybe we'll, you know, redact some of.
what we do see on that list.
Remember that interview?
But the MAGA folks were all into releasing
the list.
They want to see the
list.
Pam Bondi said it was on her desk.
Well it's getting on the president's nerves now.
He jumped on one reporter who asked AG Pam Bondi who was sitting next to him to explain why there was a
time missing from roughly 11 hours of video footage, released the night Epstein killed himself.
So why don't we listen to what happened on that 42.
Okay, got 42.
So
could you resolve whether or not he did?
And also, could you say why there's a minute missing from the jailhouse
tape?
Yeah, sure.
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
That is unbelievable.
All right, there it is.
They were buddies.
Pretty unbelievable.
Cue up 41 if you can.
Here are the promises to release.
So they put a list compilation together of them saying, we're going to release that.
You're
best.
No problem.
Cut 41.
The
DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
I'm reviewing that.
All this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline, Friday at 8, a truckload of evidence.
Cash is going to get me and himself really a detailed report
as to
why all these documents and evidence had been withheld.
It's a new administration and everything's going to come out to the public.
The public has the right to know.
Americans have a right to know.
I know the attorney general has committed to releasing those files.
I would defer you to the Department of Justice on her timeline.
But when she has made a promise in the past, she has kept it.
And I'm certain that she will in this case as well.
Welcome back everybody.
20 minutes to the top of the
hour.
Case closed.
The Justice Department revealing Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide and insists there is no secret client list
out there.
So there you go.
That's a compilation of.
The timeline, basically, of what happened with the Jeffrey Epstein list.
It's out
there somewhere.
And Caroline Levitt came out saying that the Attorney General, Pam Bonny, didn't say what she said she said.
So let's listen to cut 38 now.
Yeah, I looked at the circumstances surrounding
the
death of Jeffrey Epstein.
According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.
So what happened to the Epstein client list?
that the Attorney General said she had on her desk.
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network, on Fox News, go ahead.
John
Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
Yeah.
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars.
No, it didn't ever
happen.
Bad people.
Then she went
on saying, we are locking everybody up that broke the law.
But look, this is it.
The list doesn't exist now because they got rid of it.
This is total censorship.
This is totally keeping it away from the public.
They promised and promised and promised and they're not coming through
with it
anymore.
And, you know, Trump thought it was in the past.
No one's ever going to bring it up again.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
So
there we go.
OK.
It is 7.19.
When we come back, we'll check in with chief meteorologist Brittany Merleau.
Get the latest on the weather.
And in just about 15 minutes, Mike McCabe will join us on John and Gordy in the morning.
You need the space.
You gotta find yourself a swinging place.
You gotta fly.
You gotta soar.
You gotta rep.
A little more.
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And what a fantastic morning.
But I have a feeling the humidity is coming in.
The dew points are going to
rise.
We're all
going to be in a panic
sitting
in our homes.
Comfortably in air conditioning.
What for your life?
Tell us all about it, Brittany Merleau.
What's happening?
Oh my goodness.
You guys are sick of the humidity, aren't you
now?
Yeah.
How about you?
It's coming and going.
We get some days without it, some days with it.
So that's kind of the cool part of being in Central Wisconsin.
Yeah.
Sometimes it doesn't
make it
here.
Yeah,
you do
have a benefit that way.
Yeah.
That's about it.
The mosquitoes though are outrageous though.
So,
you know, there's a trade-off.
Well, it's looking good here so far this morning.
A lot of sunshine.
But it's not
going to be good all day long.
So stop it.
Oh, tell us, Brittany.
Tell
us.
Give us the
inside
on the
outside.
OK.
John, I think you're going to like today.
I really, really do.
82 degrees.
It looks a lot more comfortable today.
Dew points are actually dropping as we go through the afternoon.
See?
So
it's a perfect day
for you.
It's better.
I feel better.
Great.
I shouldn't have been cranky initially at the beginning of the show.
No, you have every right to be because it comes back tomorrow.
Oh, really?
Great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then what?
A
little bit more muggy tomorrow.
A few chances of storms probably in the afternoon and evening want to spark up now tomorrow afternoon.
Then for Friday, that's when the humidity really ramps up.
That system hits.
We have a chance for some heavy rain on and off throughout Friday afternoon and into the evening.
So that's going to be a damp, dark kind of soaker day.
Then behind it, we get a little comfortable on Saturday.
The humidity kind of leaves just for a little bit, partly sunny.
But then on Sunday, it ramps back up as we go into next week, too.
It's really going to turn into a heat wave into next week.
So that said, today's the best day to get outside and enjoy it.
And then again, I think Saturday afternoon, if you're trying to avoid the
humidity.
Well, wouldn't it be nice if mosquitoes couldn't tolerate the high temperatures?
Wouldn't it?
I know.
What is it about bugs that
can and love those high temperatures.
Yeah, really?
Why would they do that?
All
right.
Brittany, thank you.
Get by the way to rhythm.
You're welcome.
OK,
you have a
great day.
We appreciate
it.
Hi, guys, you too.
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Yeah, I don't understand how that happens.
Now nobody's going to want to go.
Come on.
We got a couple of texts here.
Let's get to what they mean by there's no piece of paper that has the client list written at the top of it.
Thank you,
Lynn.
That's
not there.
We
don't have anything like that.
Yes.
And Kurt also chimed back in.
He says, I will bet big money the bond he hasn't read squat.
Yeah, or I'm sure that they have destroyed the documents absolutely now.
Let's go to the phones.
We have Todd or Billy.
Yeah, I got a couple of minutes here.
What do you got?
Good morning Todd or Billy?
Good morning.
How are you guys today?
Good.
Good.
How are you?
I'm fantastic.
So I hear this come up from time to time and I'm feeling like it might be time to start working really hard on some of these Republicans who are disillusioned with
the
the budget bill to leave their party caucus, stop party caucusing with the Republicans.
And I mean, even if they declare themselves independent, if they caucus with the Democrats fine or whatever, I know it's unlikely, but even if it were one defection from Congress or in the Senate, that would make a big difference.
So I think we should be working on them.
Hey, leave the party, become an independent, like Angus King.
Yes, exactly.
You know, I mean, I think that
would be a
great idea.
At least at this point, you're seeing results of what happened in the election.
Let's go for, you know, getting some of those people back in at least caucus with us and work with us, the independence and some of the dissatisfied megas.
Yeah, you would think it'd be
time right now to do that.
Thank you,
Todd.
I don't know about Ron Johnson, but he's not been happy with it, so maybe he'll leave him.
Well, you never know what we want.
You know
what?
Ron Johnson says one thing, and he votes the other way.
Anything
goes, though.
All right.
All right.
Thank you, Todd.
Appreciate
it.
Um, okay,
you know, I hit us a big story and we're not, we don't have time for it, but, uh, uh, the big news of course is Del Monte foods has filed for bankruptcy.
Oh,
is that right?
They're,
they're
trying to
sell off all the bits and pieces of their huge huge organization.
The bad thing is they have contracts with Wisconsin farmers and, uh, this is, this is huge bad news for everybody in the state as well.
So, uh, we'll get to that story in detail maybe tomorrow then.
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before.
Again, anyway,
and
I just want to mention this, CJ had given us a call, and I'm sure that what he was going to tell us was
that
he has changed his mind about MEGA, and he is...
moved into the center at least, and he's going to caucus with the Democrats and come up with a better plan.
I'm sure that
that's exactly what he was
going to say.
Well, you and I can
dream.
We'll
see.
All right, Mike McCabe is here because it's Wednesday, and we always like to see him here, and it's good to see Lou again.
Alive, actually.
Good
morning.
You know, you took your safari in Tanzania.
You didn't bring back any Tanzania pee-bean coffees for me, so I understand that, you know, sometimes, you know, bringing that stuff back into the country might be suspicious.
Well.
But, you know, your trip
out
there
was really exciting.
Man, when we came back, when we came back through customs, though.
Yeah.
I was really kind of prepared for it to be a horrible ordeal, right?
And they'd they Process us in a matter of minutes.
They didn't ask me if I had anything to declare You know that I needed to pay a duty for and they didn't even look at my passport They did facial recognition at at O'Hare they were taking everybody's picture, but I had my passport and my my
boarding pass in my hand, but they never looked at it.
And they pretty much just waved me through.
They asked my son and my wife a couple of questions, but really minimal.
And in a matter of minutes, we were through customs.
So I was really surprised because I was prepared for it to be.
A very lengthy ordeal and very confrontational all of that.
And it ended up being the exact opposite.
Probably the quickest I've ever made it through customs coming in from a, you know, on a foreign flight.
Well, I have some drugs I like to smuggle in with the country and they apparently think you have a friendly face and they're not going to even ask.
So,
well, we have a way in.
You know, the thing is,
you know, my trips out west, you know, they...
they are really tough on what you bring into Arizona.
They get you at the board, at the highway.
And I was coming in from Amsterdam and pretty much everything's legal in Amsterdam.
And so you think that they would have raised eyebrows, but no, they just, they said, come on in.
Amazing,
just
amazing.
Because in Arizona.
The trip was full of
surprises.
You can't bring in certain fruits or
plants or anything like that.
So yeah.
And plus pot is legal.
I you know, maybe maybe they just are you know figuring that they'll pick anything up that you know is suspicious on You know and just scanning your bags and everything but yeah But yeah, I I literally had my picture taken because they they use facial recognition at all here Yeah, they didn't even check the past.
Wow Now Mike since
you've been back you've been sharing a lot of pictures.
I
have and video
Yeah, I've written a couple articles.
Yeah, and we're sub-stack.
What's been the reaction?
from some of your friends and
fans.
Oh, you know, tremendously positive reaction.
I think, I think people love to see something that different than, than, you know, the everyday reality of life here in the US.
And, and, and, you know, Tanzania is nothing if not really different from here.
But one of the things that's been cool is I've had a number of people, in fact, enough that I've
lost count who've said, you know, you've kind of inspired me to do this trip myself.
Go on a trip themselves.
Yeah, and they've actually asked me, who did you work with to line all this up and who did you go through to see all this stuff, to get all these amazing pictures and tell these stories.
And we worked with a company called Access to Tanzania, which was started by a Peace Corps volunteer.
who served there.
And I'm a former Peace Corps volunteer myself, so that was kind of what drew us to that company.
But it's a cool company because they, unlike most of the companies, and there are over 500 companies running safaris in Tanzania.
Over 500.
And what drew us to this one is that they don't just give you a standard package and say, this is what you're going to see day one.
This is what you're going to see the next day and the day after that and the day after that.
And here's your eight day or 14 day safari.
And here's the price.
This outfit actually lets you create your own trip and decide what you want to see, what you want to do, and kind of tailor it to your own interests.
And that was cool.
But the other thing is that they actually
take proceeds and plow it back into Tanzania.
They give profits to something called Project Zawadi, which builds schools and funds education for Tanzanians and helps orphans, street orphans, get schooling.
And so it's a neat way to not only have this amazing
experience and see this very different part of the world, but then also help that part of the world by, you know, putting your money on the table.
And then that money goes back to helping to educate people right there in Tanzania.
So, so I just, I really highly recommend this outfit access to Tanzania and Brian Singers, the Peace Corps volunteer who started it.
And he's got a whole team of Tanzanians who
who run the show over there and their knowledge of wildlife and birds and the plant life and the landscape is just encyclopedia.
You were pretty close to a lot of those animals.
It was incredible.
The photos
that you have on Substack.
show you
that you were right there.
And none of them were taken with telephoto lens or anything like that.
I mean, the photos that were taken, I posted a bunch on Facebook.
I've written about it on Substack.
I posted it on some other social media, Instagram and such.
And those photos were taken with a telephone and in no Zoom.
The animals were that close, which is amazing and a little unnerving when you first start experiencing it.
But I think I mentioned last week that the Tanzanian we were traveling with just said, you can feel free to open the windows and you're in no danger.
If you've never been taught to cook, you can't cook.
And these animals have never been taught to hunt anything in a vehicle and they're not after.
two-legged creatures and they, you know, they, so you're okay.
Yeah.
And so you're okay.
Yeah.
And so they, the animals paid us no mind and it was, it was so cool and so different from the US that these parks are for the animals, they're not for the people.
And the animals get to roam free and, and even the tented camps that we stayed in.
We're in the park and we're not fenced.
The animals could just roam through the
It's like a
Disney cartoon and all these different creatures
out there getting along with each other.
It's the coolest thing.
And you had the Maasai herders who were tending their sheep and their goats and their cows.
Right out there.
Right out there were all the animals where the wildlife were roaming.
Talk with Mike McCabe here, a sub-stack blogger and your latest blog is about haggling.
Yeah, so you read it so tell us about this
in the market because that
was
that's a
common thing
that all the time one of the cool things that we did in terms of designing our trip is we wanted to do some we wanted to spend some time in villages we didn't want to just be out there in the in the in this on the serengeti and looking at animals we wanted to be in the villages and we we toured some villages and and and got into the market places and and of course here other than houses and cars we really don't bargain for anything we like
price tags.
We want to be told what the price is and we decide whether we want to buy or walk.
Makes it easy.
Yeah, and they basically haggle over everything, the smallest purchases.
But what you find pretty quickly is that it's really a social exercise more than it is an economic exercise.
It's part of their
social bonding.
How does that bond?
I
would think there'd be
competition.
There's all this teasing.
Oh, it's
advertising.
And it's all this kind of relationship building going on.
But one of the other things that becomes clear, and we've experienced it in other African countries, because I lived for two years in Mali, and the negotiated prices for anything you buy is based on ability to pay.
There's not a fixed price that a thing sells for.
It's based on what you can afford.
And so if they can tell, if you drive up in a nice car and you're wearing nice clothes, you pay more than the neighbor that they know is really struggling and is having a hard time feeding the family.
Sure.
And so that's one of the interesting things is that that haggling is based on kind of coming to a price that is the right price for somebody based on their ability to pay.
So different than here, in that sense.
Well, I'm trying to bring that to Costco.
Good luck.
Good luck.
If I
dress down, they'll give me a better
price.
This is a free market economy.
These marketplaces, there's no government regulation.
There's nobody looking over their shoulder.
Government is not enforcing these rules.
These rules are cultural.
And they believe that if you can afford to pay more, you have a duty.
You have a social obligation to pay more.
And if you can't afford it, you have a right to eat and you have a right to...
to buy in the market.
And that's just their culture.
And so here we demean these kinds of countries, call them third world countries, as if there are these other countries standing above them.
And we call them underdeveloped.
But these are advanced civilizations.
And these are, this is 100.
This is the way they live.
And they live peacefully.
And the thing that always jumps out at you when you go to a place like this is they smile more, they laugh more, they sing and dance more than we do here.
So there is a lightheartedness about life there that is really, really striking.
Even though Tanzania is one of the 20 poorest countries on earth economically.
But it's such a rich place, so prosperous, socially and culturally.
You can go
into the forest and pull your own banana.
And I had some bananas.
Excuse me.
What are you talking about?
I got to sample some banana beer.
That's right.
Yeah, we talked a little bit.
Now last week.
They got bananas for eating, they got bananas for cooking, and they got bananas for beer making.
Yeah.
It's a particular kind of banana that they use for beer making.
Is it really?
And they use millet as the base grain.
Yeah.
Tastes pretty.
It tastes like beer with little fruity undertones.
Wow.
Yes, we have no dependance.
Okay, so last week we were talking about your trip.
Yeah.
And we talked about, you know, all the aspects of your trip.
Yeah.
Well.
What?
Are you kidding?
Yes.
Okay, well, I think we have time to at least start this conversation.
So after we got off the air last week, you told us about this amazing story that you left something out
last week
that we have to talk about today because you fell.
off a mountain.
And you buried the lead last week.
It
wasn't the most significant thing that happened during the trip.
So I talked about what I thought was important.
And I just sort of mentioned that in passing.
And here you thought it was the lead news.
All right.
Well, we've got
a
minute here to at least start it.
No,
you can't start it.
Can you?
All right.
Well, no.
OK.
Well, it is an amazing story.
I took a little tumble.
A little
tumble.
OK.
All right.
I think it's a little bit more than that.
But we will continue here.
And yeah, OK.
You say it was not that big of a deal, but it really, it's amazing that you're alive.
Let me
just say
that.
Actually, you're not exaggerating.
I'm not exaggerating.
We'll tell you, Mike McCabe will tell you the
story,
amazing story,
when we return
on John and Gordy in the morning.
We have no bananas.
We have no bananas today.
I got your bananas.
We're talking about bananas and banana beer here on the show
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Okay, we're back with Mike McCabe, sub-stack blogger and author telling us about his amazing trip.
All right, this was quite remarkable when you described the fall that you took.
You were hiking around
this
mountain, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
You're getting an exclusive here because I didn't write about this incident on sub-stack and I haven't even told...
friends and family here about it.
So John and Gordy exclusive.
Mark this down.
This is an exclusive.
OK.
But yeah, we did a hike from the rim of Olmati crater down into the crater floor.
And this is a.
former mountain that had the top blown off of it, and probably a million years ago.
And now there's this amazing meadow down in the floor of this crater.
And I did post some photos on social media.
of the cloud cover would be in these craters in the morning.
It's almost like you're suspended in midair above the clouds like you're in heaven or something.
But anyway, we're hiking down this crater.
And if anybody's ever hiked on the one side of Devil's Lake, where you kind of are scrambling up or down boulders that are sort of scattered, it was sort of like this, a little steeper than that.
We were kind of going down toward this beautiful waterfall.
And it was raining lightly.
And so the boulders were a little slippery.
And I lost my footing.
And I started tumbling and sort of bounced from one boulder to another.
And you know, I...
when it happened, once you're rolling, there's really nothing you can do except sort of go limp and just wait for it to stop.
And my son was hiking behind me and told me later, I thought I was watching my dad die right before my eyes.
And I said, how far did I fall?
And he says, I don't know, like 15 feet, something like that.
But it was like bouncing from boulder to boulder.
And I finally came to a rest.
bleeding from my forehead and I was kind of bleeding from arms and hands where I'd sort of hit these boulders.
And he administered first aid and was very concerned that I was badly, badly wounded.
And I said, I kind of took inventory.
I thought, I don't think I hit my head.
I don't feel like I've got any broken bones.
I'm kind of battered and...
and bloodied, but I think I'm okay.
And he sort of didn't believe me at first.
And I said, really, I'm fine.
And I was able to hike out of that crater.
You were in
shock.
You
hiked out in shock.
And he was assuming I was just in shock.
Yeah.
But I amazingly did not have a head injury, and I did not have any broken bones.
And I don't know how we would have got off of that mountain if I had.
It would have really messed things up, because it started raining a lot harder on them.
on the way out of there.
But, you know, it was just one of those things.
I have hiked Devils Lake over those boulders many, many times and without incident.
But this time, just whatever happened, the boot gave way and I started tumbling down this ledge.
So
did you continue your hike down to the water?
Were you going down to the waterfall?
I actually, and Casey finally
believed that I was okay when I said, look, just let me sit here and you go take pictures of the waterfall.
And he hiked down a little bit further and took these photos of this gorgeous waterfall.
But I just stayed put, but I was able to get myself out of there and I walked under my own power back up the.
to the rim of the crater and then down from the rim to lower ground.
They
do say that
if you have
enough banana beer, your body relaxes.
And you're able to take those falls.
It was quite a while after the banana beer consumption that I did this hike.
It was like the next day or something.
But maybe it was still with me in some way.
But you weren't
wearing any hiking gear, like a helmet and padding
or anything like that.
No.
So that's why I got scraped up pretty bad and got some real beauties, bruises that were some real beauties, especially on my hip and my forearms and everything.
But hey, I lived to tell about it.
And to me, I was just so thankful.
that this didn't ruin the trip for everybody who was with me, you know, and I was able to carry on.
And I didn't miss any of the...
the things to come.
It's
amazing.
You're a very lucky man, Michael Cabe.
Yeah, it sounded like near the end.
Unbelievable.
Well, when you're falling like that, you don't even really know how far you're falling.
I said, how far did I fall?
Because I just know I'm rolling and then bang, I'd hit another part of my body.
You're bouncing off these boulders, and it was a weird experience, but I lived to tell about it.
And I
thought falling off my bed a couple weeks ago
was bad.
There you go, see?
Well, Mike, that's an amazing story.
A John and Gordy exclusive.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Amazing.
We appreciate it.
Well,
we're glad you're here and able to continue to
be our guest.
I really hope that any listeners who are interested in this stuff will go
to my sub-stack and read about the trip, the really important and magical parts of this trip.
Yeah, wonderful stuff.
Oh
yeah, great
photos
and videos.
Mike, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it.
We'll see you next Wednesday.
All
right.
Tomorrow, Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils will join us, and also Jim Santel will explain what the Supreme Court has done lately.
Yeah, well.
Yeah.
Big news.
Big news there.
Stephanie Miller's next.
Have a great day.
So long.
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