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Weather today looks fantastic.
A lot of sunshine along the way.
Highs in the low 80s right now.
Mid 60s.
A little bit later on in a half hour.
Mike McCabe will join us and talk a little bit more about his wonderful trip to where do you go?
Tanzania.
Tanzania.
I want to say yeah.
I don't know.
I can't remember.
Tasmania?
Tasmania, yeah, that's what I almost said.
morning.
Well, good morning.
First off, I tell Scott Bisson to get bent.
Taros are merely taxation without representation because as Congress is supposed to be passing Taros, and perhaps the reason that he's got all these
Trumpsters think there's so much fraud going on in government because most of Trump's cabinet and Trump himself have been guilty of committing fraud against people for their entire lives so they can't conceive of anybody being honest when they work for government or that people that people out there in the hinterlands are actually honest when they apply for benefits because they, you know, look at Christine Ohm didn't she have her
Prodental worker plastic surgery her look enhancement, you know funded by the taxpayers I know she wants us to pick up the best cowboy picture of her What the hell
Good morning.
Real quick to the president.
Did you hear that word salad that yesterday when he was talking about Putin in Ukraine?
doesn't like me.
Well, gee, you've got to be the ultimate.
The ultimate slow learner.
He never did like you.
He never did like
So if you don't have it, that's fine.
All right, Dick, I'm sorry about that, but yeah, I know it's crazy, isn't it?
You know, he's learning this.
We came out and we said, you can't believe Putin and everybody told him that, but he thought he had an inside track with all the compliments that Putin lays on him.
And then real quickly too, who's calls the shot?
Yeah, that is the one that got off the stuff last week.
Not him.
I mean, I thought the president made the decision on the weaponry being set.
Yeah.
Apparently not.
Yeah.
in
of
good morning gentlemen and I say that loosely thank you
I just want to make a comment about my health care.
I get it's just one data point, but I'm in my sixties and I've had both private care, you know, SSRM and the others.
And I have had all my care through the VA for probably the last 15 years.
I've had procedures done in Milwaukee VA as well as here in Madison.
And
It is by far the best healthcare I have ever gotten from any organization Oh
in my life and I'm now really scared that It's gonna get blown up.
right.
That's what they're worried about You know the Supreme Court giving Trump the decision process now to fire every employee in the federal government that he wants to and get rid of departments completely if he wants to and
Vets are really worried now because they wanted to get rid of a whole bunch of people in the Veterans Department.
Right.
Now this could possibly happen because now he has carte blanche.
He can do anything he wants, Kurt.
Yeah.
So I mean, there's times where I actually feel guilty because I listen to other people how they've gone, what they've had to go through to get care.
I mean, the woman from Canada, she's
Pretty much was mirroring my experience.
I I didn't have wait times.
I was always taking care of everybody in the Institution the nurses the doctors the people at the desk all Super helpful, and I just I feel bad for others is I'm getting something at a much higher quality level than the rest of
Yeah
Yeah, well, yeah, I know there are disability ratings that veterans have as well and You know they get a lot of benefits and they rightfully get those benefits They've been putting over time You know as we notice more and more what they definitely need and they've got even more medical care now simply because of the the fire pits and The health problems that went along with that right
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
I'm reviewing that.
All this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline, Friday at eight, a truckload of evidence.
is going to get me and himself really a detailed report
as to
why all these documents and evidence had been withheld.
It's a new administration and everything's going to come out to the public.
The public has the right to know.
Americans have a right to know.
I know the attorney general has committed to releasing those files.
I would defer you to the Department of Justice on her timeline.
But when she has made a promise in the past, she has kept it.
And I'm certain that she will in this case as well.
Welcome back everybody.
20 minutes to
the top of the hour.
Case closed.
The Justice Department revealing Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide and insists there is no secret client list
Okay.
Look at the circumstances surrounding
the
death of Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein.
According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.
So what happened to the Epstein client list?
that the Attorney General said she had on her desk.
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network, on Fox News, go ahead.
John
Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
Yeah.
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars.
Then she went
with it
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Oh my goodness.
You guys are sick of the humidity, aren't you now?
It's coming and going.
We get some days without it, some days with it.
So that's kind of the cool part of being in Central Wisconsin.
Sometimes it doesn't
here.
Yeah.
That's about it.
The mosquitoes though are outrageous
you know, there's a trade
the
John, I think you're going to like today.
I really,
do.
82 degrees.
It looks a lot more comfortable today.
Dew points are actually dropping as we go through the afternoon.
See?
it's a perfect day
No, you have every right to be because it comes back tomorrow.
Yeah.
little bit more muggy tomorrow.
A few chances of storms probably in the afternoon and evening want to spark up now tomorrow afternoon.
Then for Friday, that's when the humidity really ramps up.
That system hits.
We have a chance for some heavy rain on and off throughout Friday afternoon and into the evening.
So that's going to be a damp, dark kind of soaker day.
Then behind it, we get a little comfortable on Saturday.
The humidity kind of leaves just for a little bit, partly sunny.
But then on Sunday, it ramps back up as we go into next week, too.
It's really going to turn into a heat wave into next week.
So that said, today's the best day to get outside and enjoy it.
And then again, I think Saturday afternoon, if you're trying to avoid the humidity.
Get by the way to
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Yes.
I'm fantastic So I hear this come up from time to time and and I'm feeling like it might be time to start Working really hard on some of these Republicans who are disillusioned with the
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came back, when we came back through customs, though.
Yeah.
I was really kind of prepared for it to be a horrible ordeal, right?
And they process this in a matter of minutes.
They didn't ask me if I had anything to declare that I needed to pay a duty for.
And they didn't even look at my passport.
They did facial recognition at O'Hare.
They were taking everybody's picture, but I had my passport and my...
boarding pass in my hand, but they never looked at it.
And they pretty much just waved me
through.
They asked my son and my wife a couple of questions, but really minimal.
And in a matter of minutes, we were through customs.
So I was really surprised because I was prepared for it to be.
A
lengthy ordeal and very confrontational all of that.
And it ended up being the exact opposite.
Probably the quickest I've ever made it through customs coming in from a, you know, on a foreign flight.
Well, I have some drugs I like to smuggle into the country and they apparently think you have a friendly face and they're not going to even ask.
So, well, we have a way in.
You know, the thing is, you know, my trips out west, you know, they...
they are really tough on what you bring into Arizona.
They get you at the board, at the highway.
And I was coming in from Amsterdam and pretty much everything's legal in Amsterdam.
And so
think that they would have raised eyebrows, but no, they just, they said, come on in.
Maybe they just are figuring that they'll pick anything up that is suspicious on just scanning your bags and everything.
But yeah, I literally had my picture taken because they use facial recognition.
They didn't even check the past.
couple articles
you know, tremendously positive reaction.
I think people love to see something that different than, you know, the everyday reality
of
life here in the U.S.
And, you know, Tanzania is nothing, if not really different from here.
But one of the things that's been cool is I've had a number of people, in fact, enough that I've...
lost count who've said, you know, you've kind of inspired me to do this trip myself.
themselves.
Yeah, and they've actually asked me, who did you work with to line all this up?
And who did you go through to?
to see all this stuff, to get all these amazing pictures and tell these stories.
And we worked with a company called Access to Tanzania, which was started by a Peace Corps volunteer who served there.
And I'm a former Peace Corps volunteer myself, so that was kind of what drew us to that company.
But it's a cool company because they...
They, unlike most of the companies, and there are over 500 companies running safaris in
500.
Over 500.
And what drew us to this one is that they don't just give you a standard package and say, this is what you're gonna see day one, this is what you're gonna see the next day
and the day
after that and the day after that, and here's your eight day or 14 day safari, and here's the price.
This outfit actually lets you
Create your own trip and decide what you want to see what you want to do and and kind of tailor it to your own interests and and and and that was cool But the other thing is that they actually take proceeds and plow it back into Tanzania They they give them they give profits to something called project Zawadi Which builds schools and funds education for Tanzanians
helps orphans on street orphans get schooling and
So it's a neat way to not only have this amazing experience
and
see this very different part of the world, but then also help that part of the world with putting your money on the table and then that money goes back to helping to educate people right there in Tanzania.
really highly recommend this outfit access to Tanzanian Brian singers the Peace Corps volunteer who started it and he's got a whole team of Tanzanians who who run the show over there and and and you know it's their knowledge of wildlife and birds and the plant life in this and you know the landscape
It's just encyclopedia.
right there.
And none of them were taken with telephoto lens
that.
I mean, the photos that were taken, I posted a bunch on Facebook.
I've
written about it
on Substack.
I posted it on some other social media, Instagram and such.
And those photos were
were taken with a telephone.
And in no Zoom, the animals were that close, which is amazing.
And a little unnerving when you first start experiencing it.
But I think I mentioned last week that the Tanzanian we were traveling with just said, you can feel free to open the windows and you're in no danger.
you've never been...
If you've never been taught to cook, you can't cook.
And these animals have never been taught to hunt anything in a vehicle.
And they're not after two-legged creatures.
So you're OK.
Yeah.
And so you're OK.
And so the animals paid us no mind.
And it was so cool and so different from the US that these parks are for the animals.
They're not for the people.
And the animals get to roam free.
And even the tented camps that we stayed in were in the park and were not fenced.
The animals could just roam through the
coolest thing.
And you had the Maasai herders who were tending their sheep and their goats and their cows.
Right out there.
wildlife were roaming.
one of the cool things that we did in terms of designing our trip is we wanted to do some, we wanted to spend some time in villages.
We
want to just be out there on the Serengeti
and
looking at animals.
We wanted to be in the villages and we toured some villages and got into the marketplaces.
And of course here, other than houses and cars, we really don't bargain for anything.
price tags.
We want to be told what the price is and we decide whether we want to buy or walk.
Yeah, and they basically haggle over everything, the smallest purchases.
But what you find pretty quickly is that it's really a social exercise.
more than it is an economic exercise.
It's part of their social bonding.
this teasing.
attitude.
And it's all this kind of relationship building going on.
But one of the other things that becomes clear, and we've experienced it in other African countries, because I lived for two years in Mali, and the negotiated prices for anything you buy.
is based on ability to pay.
There's not a fixed price that a thing sells for.
It's based on what you can afford.
And so if they can tell, if you drive up in a nice car and you're wearing nice clothes, you pay more than the neighbor that they know is really struggling and is having a hard time
family.
Sure.
And so that's one of the interesting things is that that haggling is based on kind of coming to a price that is the right price for somebody based on their ability to pay.
So different than here, in that sense.
Costco.
Good luck.
price.
This is a free market economy.
These marketplaces, there's no government regulation.
There's nobody looking over their shoulder.
Government is not enforcing these rules.
These rules are cultural.
And they believe that if you can afford to pay more, you have a duty.
You have a social obligation to pay more.
if you can't afford it, you have a right to eat and you have a right to...
to buy in the market.
And that's just their culture.
And so here we demean these kinds of countries, call them third world countries, as
there are these other countries standing above them.
And we call them underdeveloped.
But these are advanced civilizations.
And these are, this is 100.
live.
And they live peacefully.
And the thing that always jumps out at you when you go to a place like this is they smile more, they laugh more,
sing and dance more than we do here.
So there is a lightheartedness about life there that is really, really striking.
Even though Tanzania is one of the 20 poorest countries on earth economically.
But it's such a rich place, so prosperous, socially and culturally.
got to sample some banana beer.
week they got bananas for eating, they got bananas for cooking, and they got bananas for beer making.
It's a particular kind of banana that they use for beer making.
they use millet as the base grain.
pretty,
beer with little fruity undertones.
Yes, we have no dependence.
Okay, so last week we were talking about your trip.
Yeah.
And we talked about, you know, all the aspects of your trip.
Yeah.
Well, what?
Are you getting to?
Yes.
What?
After, okay, well, I think we have time to at least start this conversation.
So after we got off the air last week, you told us about this amazing story that you left something out last week that we have to talk about today.
because you fell off a mountain.
And you buried the lead last week.
It wasn't the most significant thing that happened during the
So I talked about what I thought was important.
And I just sort of mentioned that in passing.
And here you thought it was the
news.
Well, we
OK.
All right.
I think it's a little bit more than that.
But we will
we return
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Okay, we're back with Mike McCabe, sub-stack blogger and author telling us about his amazing trip.
getting an exclusive here because I didn't write about this incident on sub-stack and I haven't even told...
friends and family here about
and Gordy exclusive.
is an exclusive.
Okay.
But yeah, we were, we did a hike from the rim of Omadi crater down into the, to the crater floor.
And, and you know, this is a
former mountain that had the top blown off of it, and probably a million years ago.
And now there's this amazing meadow down in the floor of this crater.
And I did post some photos on social media.
of the cloud cover
would be in these
craters
the morning.
It's almost like you're suspended in midair above the clouds like you're in heaven
or
something.
But anyway, we're hiking down this crater.
And if anybody's ever hiked on the one side of Devil's Lake, where you kind of are scrambling up or down boulders that are sort
of
scattered, it was sort of like this, a little steeper than that.
We were kind of going down toward this beautiful waterfall.
And it was raining lightly.
And so the boulders were a little slippery.
And I lost my footing.
And I started tumbling and sort of bounced from one boulder to
another.
And
you know, I...
when it happened, once you're rolling, there's really nothing you can do except sort of go limp and just wait for it to stop.
And my son was hiking behind me and told me later, I thought I was watching my dad die right before my eyes.
And I said, how far did I fall?
And he says, I don't know, like 15 feet, something like that.
But it was like bouncing from boulder to boulder.
And I finally came to a rest.
bleeding from my forehead and I was kind of bleeding from arms and hands where I sort of hit these boulders.
And he administered first aid and was very concerned that I was badly, badly wounded.
And I said, I kind of took inventory.
I thought, I don't think I hit my head.
I don't feel like I've got any broken bones.
I'm kind of battered and...
and bloodied, but I think I'm okay.
And
sort of didn't believe me at first.
And I said, really, I'm fine.
And I was able to hike out of that
assuming I was just in shock.
Yeah.
But I amazingly did not have a head injury, and I did not have any broken bones.
And I don't know how we would have got off of that mountain if I had.
It would have really messed things up, because it started raining a lot harder on them.
on
the
way out of there.
But, you know, it was just one of those things.
I
have hiked Devils Lake over those boulders
many,
many times
and
without incident.
But this time, just whatever happened, the boot gave way and
started tumbling down this ledge.
So
actually, and Casey finally
believed that I was okay when I said, look, just let me sit here and you go take pictures of the waterfall.
And he hiked down a little bit further and took these photos of this gorgeous waterfall.
But I just stayed put, but I was able to get myself out of there and I walked under my own power back up the.
to the rim of the crater and then down from the rim to lower ground.
They
It was quite a while after the banana beer consumption that
hike.
It was like the next day
something.
But maybe it was still with me
or anything
that.
So that's why I got scraped up pretty bad and got some.
some real beauties, bruises that were some real beauties, especially on my hip and my forearms and everything.
But, you know, hey, I live to tell about it.
And to me, you know, I was just so thankful that this didn't ruin the trip for everybody who was with me, you know, and I was able to carry on.
And I didn't miss any of the...
the things to come.
when you're falling like that,
don't even really know how far you're falling.
I said, how far did I fall?
Because I just know I'm rolling and then bang, I'd hit another part of my body.
You're bouncing off these boulders, and it was a weird experience, but I lived to tell about it.
And I
was bad.
There you
A John and Gordy exclusive.
We
guest.
I really hope that any listeners who are interested in this stuff will go
to my sub-stack and read about the trip, be really important and magical parts of this trip.
Oh yeah, great photos and videos.
Mike, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it.
We'll see you next Wednesday.
All right.
Tomorrow, Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils will join us and also Jim Santel will explain what the Supreme Court has done lately.
Yeah, well.
Yeah.
Big news.
Big news there.
Stephanie Miller's next.
Have a great day.
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