What’s the Walmart Coin? (Hour 1)

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What’s the Walmart Coin? (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Wed Jul 2, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John and Gordy in the morning.

A beautiful morning indeed.

Happy

Hop Day.

Another great day.

Yeah, I know.

A shortened week as well.

Right.

Everybody's got a three day weekend coming up.

That's

it.

Yeah.

and should be a hot weekend.

Today's gonna be beautiful though.

We're at 64 degrees and bright, beautiful sunshine overlooking the capital this morning on State Street.

Looking good for the rest of the day.

Humidity level, not bad.

Not bad.

Two points seems to be...

Lower than 60, I'm guessing.

I could be wrong.

That's just a guess in my part.

Do you have the WMDX?

I do not have the deep point exactly at this

point, but I do have a high of 86 degrees today.

86.

That's

going to

warm up considerably.

My

watch says 69 degrees.

Okay.

Currently, you know, it

once

said 64, now it went up to 69.

Wow.

And I'm just going to, you know, venture a guess here.

Is

that the indoor temperature here in the studio?

humidity

is 79%,

which is up

there.

And the dew point is at 62 degrees.

That's just a little over teetering in the uncomfortable part.

Yeah.

Let's check the, uh, we have the, uh, WMDX, uh, dice ready to go.

Oh,

ready to roll

this bar dice.

I'll shake them up and let it fly.

Let's see.

See where afternoon high is going to be.

There's an.

eight and a four.

So it's either 48 degrees for a high or 84.

I'm guessing 84.

All right.

All right.

Well, I

had 87, but

you know, we're okay.

In the mid 80s, we

won't have a fight over it like

yesterday.

That brutal fight we had, we destroyed

a

few

chairs.

Well, knock down drag out every once in a while, you know, just to get the, you know, get the nerves out.

That's true.

You know, I'm really there's

built up frustration.

Let's

say good morning to

our when it comes to the weather

our producer

Dom, good morning, Dom.

Oh, yeah.

Clipping the switches, pushing

the buttons over there.

How's

he going?

Pretending he

knows what he's

going

to

do next.

I'm pretending like I know what I'm doing right now.

Yeah, that's good.

What do you got on your head there?

What is this?

Is that a beanie?

Yeah, I wore this before, but I just like the way it looks.

I don't know.

I bought it off Timu for like $5, and so I've been wearing it ever since.

Very comfy.

Does it have

some sort of secret message with those

markings?

Yeah, it looks like markings.

It looks like markings of something.

They're hieroglyphics of something.

Yes, but that's why I think it's pretty cool.

I like the hieroglyphic kind of lettering.

I don't know what it means, though, so maybe it might not be a good idea to wear it all the time.

Well, is there a way that you can

possibly flatten it out and take a picture of it and do a search online

and see if there

isn't some interpretation?

Because I know what it says.

It says, Stu, STU.

Oh, OK.

STU.

Stu.

Stu.

Like,

yeah, it's a name.

Oh, okay.

So it might be a name.

I don't know.

All right.

All right, Stu.

See

that.

We'll call him Stu from now on.

I remember at the beginning, when I first started, Gordy kept calling me a bunch of random names that made no sense.

Boris.

When the came to

mind.

Yeah.

Yeah, Boris.

And then I don't know what else.

What else did I call you?

I don't remember.

I don't know.

I don't even know.

Bill, you called me Bill one time.

Pretty sure.

Okay.

I think it starts with an A, ends with a whole.

I

don't think that.

That doesn't sound like me.

Well, anyway, a little bit later on, it'll be the return of Mike McCabe.

We're all, you know, anxious to hear what happened when he went to Tanzania.

And he wrote a beautiful article in sub-stack.

It is

really something

else, isn't it?

Really something.

Yeah.

So we'll talk to him about

that.

Yeah.

He'll have to explain everything.

I don't think we have too many questions.

He just, I mean, it was an experience of experiences.

I don't think I would be very comfortable in Tanzania, but, but he, he enjoyed the fact that everybody enjoys life without technology.

Right.

Right.

Even

Rhodes.

Right.

So, well, we'll dig deeper into that, I

guess.

That's right.

So we'll find out in our seven o'clock hour when Mike McCabe joins us.

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Yeah.

what all right what's the matter so

what's

on your mind we we have essentially almost passed a budget in the state and we'll be getting to that a little after seven o'clock we'll be going over the details of what is in the proposed budget between the GOP legislature and governor evers

yes

Well, it seems like they've come to some kind of agreement and maybe just working out the fine I thought it

was really cool that they actually got all the stuff they did get They

got more money for the university.

Yeah,

and I know that I know there are Democrats trying a hard line They're not liking it.

They're not going to vote for it.

I I think that's short-sighted I mean you get what you can with this legislature at this point anyway,

well, we'll dig into that.

Yeah

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Yeah, you don't even need a box spring anymore.

No, not anymore.

Right.

Right.

I don't why I think you can buy them if you really need one, but you

really don't need a box spring anymore.

Well,

unless

unless

you don't have the

the support in the bed frame.

Yes, not.

I like I was saying, I still have that triple decker.

bed that I have that goes up to like the roof of my apartment.

You haven't fallen out of it again,

have you?

I have not, thank God, but I remember when that did happen, I hurt my leg for a while, I was hobbling.

Yeah, it wasn't

good.

No, no, we thought for sure that was permanent.

The end of

me there.

But it adds personality, you know, if we see you at an event of some sort, we'd see you hobbling over there.

It

has a little personality,

like Gunsmoke.

Oh, Chester.

Chester.

The deputy.

That's way before Dom's time.

He wouldn't know who we're talking about.

Gunsmoke, the TV show.

I probably shouldn't have brought that

up.

That's really too old

for most people with me.

James Arnes.

James Arnes.

He was, you know, he was the brother of Peter Graves.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

Who starred in Mission Impossible, another TV show that Dom knows nothing about.

And James Arnes, of

course, was the thing.

The

thing in, yeah, in the

movie.

He

was

the carrot.

At least they call it

a carrot.

I said Peter Graves directed one episode, Which Doctor, which aired in 1966.

Which Doctor.

Which Doctor.

I don't know.

I don't really know much.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do tell.

Okay.

That's great.

Well, you know, a lot of the stars in those days, they used to direct episodes,

right?

Yeah.

Robert Cope did a whole bunch of eye spies.

Did he really?

Didn't know that.

Yeah.

You know, I see they brought the Cosby show back on TV.

Oh, they did?

They

slipped it on there now?

Yeah.

Suddenly that's forgotten.

That's okay.

Yeah.

Cosby show is back

in syndication.

Look, iSpy has built Cosby in it, but it shouldn't be avoided.

I mean,

For the time, it was a pairing up of a white guy and a black guy.

And that was groundbreaking.

And they were spies.

Yeah.

And they were cool spies.

And Cosby got the Emmys every time, every year for that show.

And Kulp who wrote episodes and directed it.

And was a guy I looked after.

I mean, he just had a presence.

And he never got any awards for any of it.

And I'm

still a little resentful.

Well, he went on to have a great career, Robert Galt.

He was in, remember the ones where he was in Colombo a couple of times as the bad guy, the murderer.

And those were great episodes.

Maybe it was just one episode with Colombo.

What is the greatest American hero?

Was he in

that?

He was the...

I don't know what the

guy that guided the superhero and told sort of the father hero or father

figure for the superhero.

Yeah, the reluctant superhero that had trouble flying.

Yeah.

Did he ever could fly never fly right.

Could not direct himself in the sky.

That was a good series.

And then he was in he made a lot of guest cameo appearances.

Yeah.

Talking about Robert Culp.

Yes, Robert Culp.

He was in Everybody Loves Raymond.

Uh, yes, you mentioned that a number of times he played, uh, raised father in law.

And before the whole thing blew up with Bill Cosby, they had a couple of reunion shows.

Did

they

get together's of I spy?

And it was

really cool.

No

kidding.

Really?

No

TV movies, the return of I spy.

I had no idea about that.

Okay.

Well, you know, Robert called played a, uh, a tennis player and

That's right.

Bill Cosby was his manager.

They globetrodded and spied at the same time, so it was a great

premise.

We'll have to look that one up and see if we can find some episodes and maybe play some clips.

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Yeah, you know, I

get a

lot of ads.

I don't

mind getting ads.

It's OK.

And it's targeted toward what I normally look at.

So I'm OK with that.

And I get a lot of seal information that way.

When

you're on social media.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And I keep seeing this ad that says Costco buyers love this device.

Do

they?

And.

I have sucked into that twice now.

Is it the same divide?

Are you talking about a specific one?

This is the trick.

What?

It has nothing to do with Costco.

You know, you're thinking, well, the Costco buyers are buying this particular item at Costco and they just love it.

That isn't the case.

No, they're just using the name Costco to draw

in people who love

Costco.

Interesting.

To sell their product, which has nothing

to do with Costco

at all.

And it's really making me.

Angry because you know, I live at Costco.

I know you

do my second home.

My third home, of course, is Woodman's but other than Boy when the roof came down in Woodman's

where am I gonna sleep tonight?

Tough day for you.

Yes.

But can you order it through Costco?

I mean, can you order online stuff through Costco?

Well, yeah,

you can order online, but this product has nothing to do with it.

And now I read a story where there is a clothing manufacturer suing Costco because Costco used to sell their clothing, but all of a sudden now there's a Kirkland brand that seems to have the same kind of clothing.

If you ever shop there, Kirkland replaces almost everything in the store of brand names.

They have their own eventual name tacked on these products that they used to sell from other manufacturers.

I'm wondering if how true this is that they've been kind of stealing products from

people.

It doesn't seem that that's an

ethical thing to do.

Well, I'm okay with it.

I love Costco.

Can't wait till they build one of those Costco's around here with the apartments above it or the condos.

That's

right.

It's the beginning of a Costco

city.

I

can't wait.

Yeah, they have those.

19 minutes past the hour, just getting started on Wednesday morning, the second day of July, back with more of John and Gordy in just a few moments.

Kathryn Lake

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623

sunshine looks like it's gonna be beautiful all day highs in the mid 80s right now 65 degrees.

Where the hell did John

Lenin get the idea doing that?

That's just messing around with studio.

That was one of those songs, what's the name of that tune?

Go ahead, John.

You know my name.

Yeah, you

know my name.

Look up my number.

Yeah, they had done that over a course of several years.

Yeah.

They were just when they were messing around in the studio, they had, and you can tell it's kind of a montage.

It goes from different little bit to different little parts.

And yeah.

So that's the just the end.

I know it's a weird character.

I mean, it's almost like I've seen

I've seen somebody talk like that in the old 30s 40s movies.

It seems to

me anyway.

Mm-hmm.

He could do good gibberish that John Lennon.

Yeah, that was good stuff good at the very good

Wasn't it a time for our new game show

thing?

What do we

do?

What do we call this again?

What's happening now?

What is it?

What would you rather?

Which would you rather?

Which would you got to get this right?

Would you rather?

Would you rather?

That's better one or the other would you rather?

Okay, let's rather.

Let's start this off.

Shall we?

Alright, first question.

What's worse?

Yeah, basically.

Point.

2.0.

Go ahead.

Would you rather swim in a pool full of Nutella or a pool full of maple syrup?

Man hands down

maple syrup

hands down maple syrup.

Oh,

yeah.

Yeah, I gotta go with that too.

I can't stand Nutella.

Yeah,

really?

What's the reason just you don't like the taste?

Oh, yeah, I don't like the taste at all.

I

don't

like that You like me tell you would you go?

I love Nutella.

I would be a really.

Yes.

I could eat that.

What do you pull?

Are you kidding me when you put it on toast or what?

Yes, I put it on toast and

isn't it isn't

a

strange disgusting

Gen Z loves Nutella,

and I don't know why that is.

My sons

love Nutella, or at least Brad does, my younger one, 23 years old now.

But he loves me, he had me go out and get the damn stuff.

God, what's the flavor?

What kind of flavor

is that?

It's sort of a chocolatey thing.

It's a chocolatey mixture.

Not really, though.

But it's not.

But it's not.

It's hard to explain, honestly.

I can't explain it.

That's why it's so good.

And I also really like marshmallow fluff, too, which I don't know if you guys know marshmallow fluff.

Marshmallow, I can... Yeah, that's okay.

I used to spoon it out of the jar.

Oh my God.

So sweet.

All right, all right.

We got another one.

Yep.

We got we got another one Would you rather spend a week in the forest or a night in a real haunted house?

So a week in the forest

You go to a haunted house.

Oh,

yeah, definitely.

I'm no

kidding me do the week in the forest.

I think I'm gonna do the week in the floor.

Yeah, all those

bugs and I'll tell you what you're in a haunted house You're looking for spirits and ghosts and some kind of scary experience that's stimulating.

That's true

That's true.

That's

true.

Come on, have I convinced you?

I don't buy it.

No, I

don't.

I don't know.

You don't buy into the spirit

thing.

No, I don't.

You don't

believe in ghosts or monsters or anything.

Nope.

Nope.

Okay.

Well, okay.

Not a believer.

Guess you didn't see 13 ghosts when you were younger.

All right, let's continue.

All right, and then last question.

Last but best question.

It's a special sign language we had in the studio.

I got that.

You didn't really deserve it for that, but I just thought I'd throw it in.

Okay, go ahead.

Okay, would you rather sleep in a doghouse or let stray dogs sleep on your bed every night?

And this is every night for the rest of your life, okay?

So this is that.

I'm

gonna sleep in a doghouse.

Okay, well,

I guess I gotta... Yeah, that's a

terrible choice.

I would do doghouse.

I'm really yeah, I don't trust it just don't trust the stray dogs on my actual clean sheets I'm trusted well

every night for the rest of your life isn't did you throw that in there

yeah well yeah that was a personal yeah all

right see what it what it tells us about you Dom is kind of scary but I would have to say that the stray dogs in my bed why not

I got the crack and I got

my

board fell asleep up there, you know.

Really?

It's like a bed of hair now.

Does it

sleep in the bed?

No, she

wants to desperately, but

I don't know how she

sleeps on the quilt, but somehow all that hair ends up on my pillow and I have no idea how that

happens.

Um, okay.

Does the dog get in there while you're at work or away from the house?

Well, the pillow is right next to the

window, and she likes to prop herself up on

my pillows in order to look up the

windows, check the squirrels, where they're running, what tree they're going up next.

I think that's how it's done.

Oh, boy.

It's not fun.

It's not easy.

I'm pulling hair

off my face all night long.

Oh, that's kind of gross.

OK, it's not that bad.

But

it happens every once in a

while.

OK.

Is that it for what's happening?

That's it.

What's going on?

Your choice.

The thing

is, this thing could be writing up a psychological profile of both of us, Gordon.

If somebody accumulates this information, they'll know just who we are

and where to find

us.

I

save all of these questions.

Send it to Homeland Security.

They've already got all the data they need

on us.

They're getting

more data.

They're finding more.

Every single day.

A little bit later on, Mike McCabe will join us and he'll be talking about all kinds of things from his vacation.

He was over there for

what,

10

days or something?

Yeah.

Over in Tanzania.

I had to look that up on the map.

I couldn't even, I didn't even know where it was.

I knew it was in Africa somewhere, but that's all I had.

I got to ask him about the Warthog River, right?

And then the River of Mosquitoes.

Yes, that doesn't sound good.

The River of Mosquitoes.

No, it doesn't.

Yeah.

But apparently it wasn't that bad.

No.

So find out more.

Times have changed.

629, we're coming back with Idiocracy on this edition of John and Gordy in the Morning.

635 beautiful sunshine for Wednesday highs in the mid 80s right now mid 60s John we got a We get these every once a while an email.

Oh,

this is

from this one's from Jamesville from D and D says You know, there's a question.

I guess you can fill out a questionnaire or something from

one of our websites and anyway it says what are you looking for in local news that's the question and uh D answers real news the truth and we found it on your station along with enough levity to start our day off right starting the day on levity that's what we bring to the table right some levity once in a while um we got a lot better than the s word all right we got a text here from Doug

Yes.

We were talking about Alligator Alley, right?

Or Alligator Alcatraz.

That's right.

Yeah.

Wisconsin can't build its own migrant detention center, question mark.

How about the cheese curd slammer?

It works for me.

My

wife came up with a few.

Did she?

Yeah.

Like, because alligators were something that we feared when we were kids

in

the 50s and 60s.

Yes.

So she came up with quicksand.

Elcatraz,

you

know, surrounded by quicksand.

She came up with another one.

I just can't remember what it is.

And then, uh, and finally she came up with sharks, something surrounded by sharks.

Okay.

Just sharks.

Yeah.

Sharks didn't have a good name for that one.

Shark.

Well, what, you know, it's got

to have some kind of alliteration.

So.

Eligator Elcatraz has

the alliteration.

It

does.

It does.

And cheese curd slammer.

It's got a little bit of that.

Yeah.

And in quicksand, quick, I don't know what we could

use for quicksand.

Yeah, I don't know.

Quicksand used to show up in a lot of old movies and

from

the TV shows in the 50s and 60s.

You told me that Beaver got caught in some quicksand.

I'm pretty sure.

I think I remember well over his

hand all we could see it was his hand by the time they finally rescued him.

Wasn't that it?

We always thought of the hand, right?

Yes.

Remember

when we met?

We met Eddie Haskell.

Yes.

And we had to come in for Eddie

Haskell because he was here for a parade.

Yeah.

Well, he was part of a holiday parade or something, but and it wasn't in the 50s either.

No, what was it?

Well, we were working in the 80s, right?

We were working at Channel 47.

They tried to bring back a modern version of Leave it to Beaver.

So it wasn't bad.

It wasn't bad, but it was the new Leave it to Beaver, you know, and they brought back Eddie Haskell in that TV show and Jerry Mathers and Tony Dow.

You know, they're much older adults than and they had their kids of their own that were getting in trouble.

Jerry

Mathers still acted like the nine year old beaver.

TV show,

which

was a little unsettling.

Very odd.

Okay,

this is...

Yeah.

This is

Idiocracy.

It is time for Idiocracy, yes.

So, uh... I completely forgot to play the intro for it.

Oh, what?

Oh, well, go ahead and play it.

Let's...

I think

we should play it.

Play something.

We'll

play a snippet of it.

Why not?

Here we go.

It's in the mood as the

21st century began.

Human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving

even its most basic problems.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this.

There's no way to survive this, you

idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

I don't know if we're gonna survive this one.

No, I know it.

Alright, our first example is Marjorie Taylor Greene getting a little out of hand with the gavel in this case.

She

went nuts!

We've featured on this program a number of times.

A great representative out from New Mexico.

It is Melanie Stansberry.

You might remember

her.

She's

amazing.

She

has some great stuff.

Yes.

But she was trying to make a point.

That Marjorie Taylor Greene wasn't having any of it.

Why don't we check out and cut 188.

The gentleman yields, no one loves veterans more than President Trump, and he's made that apparent.

That's why he's working for peace right

now.

I'm the chair of this committee.

I'm the chair.

You're not recognized, Ms.

Stainbury.

You're not recognized

either.

You can't just speak anytime you

want.

I'm

the

chair

of this committee.

Ms.

Stainsbury, you're not

recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're

not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not

recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury,

you're

not

recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury,

you're

not

recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

Ms.

Stansbury, you're not recognized.

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Ms.

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Ms.

Stans

How can she do that?

She just gavling, you know Stop losing the argument.

Oh my gosh.

She is You know, but the thing is, you know, you got to think about the people who voted her in We think she's bad.

How about the people who said hey?

We like her for our true Taylor green.

Oh, man.

All right.

Okay.

That's a great opener.

I think.

Okay.

Now.

Yeah.

I thought of this the other day.

Um, uh, you know, we're under a dictator right now.

I was the first one

first

radio host in the, in the universe to, to declare that Trump was already a dictator.

Yeah.

That was months ago.

Oh

yeah.

Yeah.

So anyway, Trump is the dictator, but.

We almost had one in the 60s and a lot of people have forgotten.

Comedian Pat Paulson ran for president.

Do you remember this?

I do.

From his mother's brothers?

Yeah.

He launched a near successful campaign until this speech tanked any chances he had.

Let's play

it.

Okay.

Time has

come for us to sit down and reason together.

Too often serious world problems are discussed in an environment full of passion and unreasoning anger.

The day when a fiery orator could influence an audience with feminine tirades has long since passed in this age of sophisticated political awareness.

Let us then communicate with each other on a civilized level.

Even President Justin disdains the impassioned appeal to the emotional sensibilities of his cattle, his people.

People love it.

People love

it.

Not for me, the rabble rousers scorching indictment.

Of course, it is true that some leaders have made progress with recalculated peoples through the use of demagogic emotional displays.

But that is to be expected when dealing with a great bulk of the lower and middle class peasants who are easily swayed by pyrotechnic performances.

But if I am elected, I shall lead this nation forward, as never before, to a position of preemence throughout the world.

I believe it is our manifest destiny to dominate the oceans of the world and to bring the white man's burden to the underprivileged nations of the earth for they are better accustomed to

parenting.

They love it.

They're receptive.

And whether I say the dominance of this country and world trade military power shall be enhanced and enlarged to the point where entire nations shall bow down and wobble in the dust at our feet.

I sense a problem here.

show marched together in a tremendous fight for the manifest destiny that shall be ours.

What's the dove in

Fusca Horton?

What's the clink of the pigeon?

What's the twig flag about it?

Oh my.

Yeah.

And you

can

see why, you know, that was, uh, that was a speech that tanked his entire, uh, run for president.

Sadly.

He had given a number of TV speeches on the Smothers Brothers show before leading up to that.

That

actually was the Smothers Brothers.

Yeah.

So that was a great run.

And he ran the next year.

Right.

You kept

running.

Yeah.

Well, anyway,

had

Paul's had Paulson comedian and, uh, and a lot of fun on the Smothers Brothers show.

No doubt.

Yeah.

All right.

This is kind of a weird one.

Um, the Wall Street Journal reported this stuff.

Walmart coin.

Okay.

Wow.

Yeah.

Walmart.

coin could be coming to a superstore near you thanks to the cryptocurrency industry-backed genius act.

God, Walmart, Amazon, and even some major airlines are considering issuing their own stable coins.

Now these are the ones that are a little bit better than all the other ones, but they're still prone to corruption.

The new bill

is stable coin.

Yeah stable

coin.

What is

that?

And the stable coin means that it's it's exchangeable for actual cash and money Okay, because it's stable.

I guess if you call it

stable, it's got to be a stable coin and it's okay then.

I

don't know I'm not into this

Crypto stuff at all, right?

The new bill rolls back federal oversight of stable coins and permits corporations like meta and X to issue their own made-up monopoly money with Exorbitantly high fees see and in the whole reason why we had have this this crypto idea going is that X wanted to become the next PayPal

Oh, okay.

Yilan wanted to turn it into a PayPal

As well so you can make purchases on it and he can make some money and charge a lot of money The Justice Department meanwhile is currently suing Apple for alleged antitrust violations that trap iPhone users into using its own tap-to-pay and digital wallet technology using our current cash system Now I don't understand it because you know Samsung has its own wallet.

Oh, yeah,

Google has its wallet, right?

And I use both of them and my cards are in the wall

Right.

So Apple has its own wallet.

I don't know why it's getting sued because in that wallet will be our credit cards, our debit cards.

Right.

So

what's the

problem?

And in one state, I even believe they have their driver's license in it.

So you don't have to carry that around anymore.

You don't need a wallet or a purse.

Anyway, Oracle, an artificial intelligence firm, also reported they're tapped by the administration to stage a purchase of TikTok.

And Palantir, the mass surveillance corporation, reportedly compiling a master list of American data, is also trying to pick up on TikTok.

Oh, great.

Now we just heard from Trump that, you know, there's some kind of deal going with China on TikTok.

So we've got Oracle, China, and Palantir vying for TikTok, and it still isn't sold.

And Trump said he'd released that in a couple of weeks.

Back to the two-week thing, right?

Now I

think he's playing us.

I think

he had a smile on his face when he said it.

But he doesn't have a sense of humor, so I kind of wonder about that.

Right.

Meanwhile, the new Defense Department initiative just recruited executives from Palantir, Metta, and OpenAI to join the U.S.

Army Reserves as part-time military officers.

Together, they form a new executive innovation corporation.

dedicated to bringing about a new era of defense technology.

It sounds scary

as

hell.

I know.

What the hell is that all

about?

Wait, run that by me.

Yeah, it's a new initiative.

Executives from Palantir, Meta and OpenAI

are

joining the Army Reserves.

And okay, and they're gonna have the executive innovation corporation now.

Here's the problem with that

Doesn't make any sense.

They actually disbanded in fact all of the tech people at the defense department walked out

They left oh wow because they were

afraid of what they wanted to do now.

We have the biggest You know biggest tech people joining the reserves

All right, that's it doesn't sound good

Okay, 6.48.

We're coming back with more of John and

Kathryn Lake

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The American Dream is killing us all at this point with the big bad bill.

Oh boy.

And we're going to get to something that is just so mind boggling the alligator Alcatraz in just a few moments.

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All right,

okay One of the makers

out there are really gleeful over the alligator Alcatraz.

They just love it while they were debating the bill in the Senate.

Yeah, Trump took

a

tour the alligator Alcatraz

He didn't you know

They asked him a couple of questions and he gave answers that were not anywhere near what the questioner was asking.

I don't know if he couldn't hear them.

We've included an answer in this bit.

Okay.

So, uh, and by the way, we have a texture from Robert MacFarlane.

Yeah.

Uh, he suggested the cheese curd clink.

There you go.

There's a ring to it.

Cheese curd clink.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Eliteration.

We're always looking for that.

Yeah.

All right, anyway, this is Tim Miller from the Bulwark with MSNBC's Chris Janssen.

And they were discussing the disturbing alligator Alcatraz visit.

The new ice detention center in the Florida Everglades.

All right.

Well, let's listen to it here.

Hey everybody, Tim Miller from the Bull Work here.

I was just on MSNBC with Chris Janssen and we were talking about this supposed so-called alligator Alcatraz, this new ice detention center in the Everglades.

And I wanted to share the conversation with you.

I got to tell you, Chris really kind of brought me down.

This doesn't usually happen on TV, but I hadn't seen some of the details around how, let's just be blunt, how excited.

MAGA voters are, I guess, about this detention center in the swamp.

People are buying T-shirts, little hats.

Let's talk with Cam about this because Denny Johnson on one of his feeds wearing alligator Alcatraz hat.

It's just like, it is so dark and so cruel.

It's so gross on so many levels.

It's like that we are screwing with this natural habitat.

like to just because we want to create some 80s action movie detention center for people, some of whom I am going to presume are not even violent criminals.

That's right.

It is it's deeply disheartening.

So we talk about that with Chris Janssen.

We talk about the reaction to Cuban community in Florida, which I think might become a problem for Trump.

And

You know, what I, what I didn't get into as much as I wanted was just how, how sick it is.

Just how sick it is that this is the priority, that this is what these guys are doing.

The president and Florida governor Ron DeSantis seeming to delight in how the natural environment of a swamp, the wildlife that comes with it as well, would make it difficult for anyone trying to escape.

The stakes are fast, but alligators, we're going to teach them how to run.

away from an alligator, okay?

If they escape prison, how to run away?

Don't run in a straight line, run like this.

And you know what?

Your chances

go up about 1%.

The security is amazing, but what?

Natural and otherwise.

Five people have died in ICE custody since January.

The latest, a 75 year old Cuban man who came to the United States nearly six decades ago

but died after three weeks in detention.

Is the threat of cruelty the point here, a deterrent?

I think so.

The whole thing is extremely dehumanizing.

Like the idea that somebody had spent here for 60 years, you know, needs to be held in a cell, like for what?

What it has, though, Tim, been big plus for the MAGA base.

I mean, the Florida Republican Party is selling all kinds of alligator Alcatraz merchandise.

There you see some of the t-shirts.

They've got hats.

One Florida Republican Party official said that the traffic to their website and the donation links have skyrocketed by 400 to 500%.

So now you're just

trying to depress me on midday.

I'm just

stating the facts.

Just

stating the facts, Tim Miller.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

It really is.

It's sick and it's sad.

It should

come up with something like that,

right?

Yeah.

I mean, it's a temporary detention center.

The walls are chain link fences.

Right.

That's your privacy.

And it was a former airplane landing area in the swamp.

Like a landing strip.

Yeah, so they've converted it into this now.

Let's go to the phones.

Real

quick, we got about a

minute,

Dick.

What do you got for us?

Well reporting now to that the money to do that was stolen from FEMA.

Oh, yes.

Yes, that's right.

Yes

Wonderful.

Yeah, that's great real quick.

Here's something for you.

Who said this?

foreign policy slash military actions Are a little more nuanced and watching shows like me press.

I'm paraphrasing.

Yeah.

I don't know

Pete

Wow.

Okay.

Wow.

All right.

Good find.

All right, Dick.

Thank you.

We'll be back with more.

We're going to get to a big story and that is the budget here in Wisconsin.

Yeah, it seems

like they have a deal.

Yeah.

And also in our next hour, Mike McCabe returns with John and Gordy.

Kathryn Lake

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