Like a fine wine aged to perfection, until the bottle shatters against the rocks of history, two ancient warriors of radio broadcasting take to the airwaves of Madison for anyone brave enough to listen to the unvarnished truth or something like that.
It's John and Gordy in the morning on 92.7 WMDX.
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It's John and Gordy in the morning and we're hoping that we win the best of Madison.
I'm on pins and needles.
Today's the last day of voting.
Yes it is.
We're in a tough competition boy.
Are we?
It's down to, let's see, six, right?
We're in the top
six,
and then they pick, you
know,
first place, second place, third place.
But we don't find out till, like, September or October.
I know that's ridiculous, isn't it?
But the last day of voting is today.
Does it take them that long to count the votes?
Wouldn't seem like that was
gonna take a couple of months, you know for them to figure out and and decide who is the winner first second and third But but here's the thing, you know, we could always assume that we won up until that point So Okay, sure, I'm taking bragging rights immediately
Well, we'll see about that, you know, but we'll have to wait
yeah
Well, wait and see
wait wait and see my brothers my brothers, you know voted for Trump and they thought well Well, let's wait and see what happens.
Yeah.
Wow Okay, we got
a note here already from somebody I was watching Watching on what YouTube
or
Facebook or somewhere vote the John and Gordy show for best of Madison sure I sure did this T says that
T.
McRowan, right?
McRowan.
T.
McRaven.
McRaven,
yeah.
McRaven or McR- Yeah, it's quite far away.
The monitor's like eight miles from me this morning.
We had a very small print, too, but,
you know.
Yeah, yeah.
What can we do about
that?
Nothing.
Look at this beautiful sunshine.
Wow.
It's a fantastic morning.
Oh, it's gorgeous out there.
It's still slightly humid and, you
know, it's still gonna feel like that.
But the whole thing here is, you know, yesterday afternoon, it just turned, all of a sudden, you know, that front went through and it cooled off dramatically and it was just really nice outside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was mowing my lawn.
Yeah, you were mowing your lawn.
Here came the rain.
I had to stop mowing the lawn for 20 or 30 minutes and then I mowed the rest of the lawn and look.
It looked really good after I mowed
it.
You stopped mowing the lawn, had a six pack, and then came back
out and finished
the job.
Good job.
Rose may be a little uneven, but I had a good time.
And you're part of the neighbor's lawn
too.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
OK, we have 67 degrees according to the WMDX official weather watch from Samsung.
That's good.
And it feels like, by the way.
67 degrees.
High around 84 today.
Oh, is that what it's saying?
And tonight, low
around 64.
Okay.
Well, let's check the weather roulette wheel, producer Dom.
Why don't you spin the wheel and see what we get here for an afternoon high.
Ooh, that's been in this morning.
It sure is.
Wow.
Look out.
Must have put some WD-40 in there or something.
82, red 82.
So you said 84, so we'll see about that.
Okay, usually right.
Yeah, you are yeah a little while from now I infected about 10 minutes or so we'll talk to Pam Yonkey Get the latest from her on what's going on the fabulous farm babe
Lots of things happening.
Do you have a good weekend?
No.
Well,
yeah, I had a good weekend.
I fine-tuned all of the stories that we have never gotten to on this program.
I threw a lot of them out, and I fine-tuned it.
Now we are going to be presenting a lot of those stories during idiocracy.
Can't wait.
Going back in time.
I almost want to bring out the time tunnel, but in this case, it's not that
I
don't think Tom has experienced the time tunnel
yet.
I
haven't.
I haven't.
I'm trying to look for it.
We'll use that at some point.
We at times jump into the time tunnel and go back to a day when the Republicans were just as bad as they were today.
Just to prove our point.
But we
haven't done that in a long time.
We haven't.
Do you have a good weekend Dom?
I did have a good weekend.
Yeah, I brought my I brought my parents up here I brought my parents got to see the the wonderful world of Madison
And they enjoyed it.
They didn't like... Scared them?
Yeah, scared them a little bit, especially with that Morgan Wallen concert that's been going on for the last few days.
Oh, boy.
Oh, wow.
Over by Camp Randall.
Yeah, what is that all about?
You know, that's sort of in my neighborhood.
And lots of cowboy hats and cowboy boots.
You know, suddenly they came out of the woodwork.
It was like Texas over there.
Like, where are all these people
coming from?
Couldn't wait to wear those boots again, you know.
Apparently.
You know, I went and bought cowboy boots.
Never wore them again.
Just bought them.
Well, see, you know, the young women that wear the short shorts cowboy
boots and
cowboy hats, you know, and
like,
okay, it's a fashion statement, I guess, because, you know, you can tell they're not not working the rodeo.
They're not cattle ranchers.
Exactly.
They're just, you know, they're just
they're not wearing
chaps.
They're not wearing chaps.
But I guess Morgan Wallin's a big deal because he had, I mean it was at Camp Randall.
First time they've had a concert there for 20 something years.
Is it the first time they had a country star there, I'm wondering?
I don't know.
I think so, because I'm looking right now.
Morgan Wallin, then after that in a couple weeks, it's Coldplay.
Coldplay.
Those were the only two in however long at Camp Randall.
Can you look up and see, just ask Google when the last concert was.
Camp Randall, see what Google comes up with.
Yeah, the Pink
Floyd thing was... Did you go to Pink
Floyd?
Yeah, I did.
Everybody talks about that show.
Everybody was there.
Everybody was there.
Rose
and Tundra.
The floating pig and everything.
It was really cool.
It was a real show.
1997, The Rolling Stones.
Okay, well that was a good one.
Stones.
Was that the steel wheels tour?
I imagine it was.
No,
bridges to Babylon tour.
Oh, the bridges to Babylon.
I've seen so many stone scouts.
Did you?
I went to one.
I can't
remember which one.
I went to one.
Now, Poplar Creek, what's the one down south near Johnson Creek?
Yeah, it's Alpine.
Alpine Valley.
Alpine Valley.
Yeah.
It was a great show.
Oh, yeah.
Steel wheels,
too.
Yeah, I saw them there, too.
Did you?
Yeah.
I wonder if we were there on the same
night.
Maybe, probably.
If you saw me
in
front taking pictures, that was
probably me.
I got it through.
I was pretty
aggressive.
Was it when we were at MAD?
Uh, what year was that?
I think it was 92 or 93.
Somewhere in there?
You still have that up there?
You still have
that
up there?
Alpine Valley, Rolling Stones.
Let me look at it.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Well, that was fun.
It
was a good show.
The whole thing about going to Alpine Valley is trying to get out of the parking lot.
Yes.
Because it usually rains and it's a mud field.
It rained that night
for the stones.
And you can't get out.
And then you sit there and wait for hours.
For a couple hours, yeah.
Traffic to filter out on a country road.
It's like, it's busier.
I never go.
You're finding
any information?
93.
93.
You got it right, John.
Gordy.
I get your names messed up so much.
Really?
He's John.
I'm Gordy.
I got to start figuring that out.
Should we wear name tags still?
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Maybe we should dig out our press hats with their names on it.
With the press
hats, yes.
Press.
Press, press.
Remember the press?
Yes.
Remember the three stooges?
Yeah, that was probably
it.
They're trying to sneak in to someplace.
Press, press, press, and then Curly has pull.
Stole the buttons off.
That is some washroom machine.
Absolutely a classic.
Good.
Yeah.
OK.
Um, well, so your parents had a good time in Madison.
Where'd you take them, by the way?
Did you go anywhere special?
We
just take the folks to
they'd never been here before.
They've never been here before.
I mean, they really like coffee.
Took them to Michelangelo's right, right.
Right around the corner, right around the corner.
And then we just kind of walked around, went to the terrace by, uh, over there.
Yeah.
And,
um,
yeah, that was about it because it was really hot out.
So we kind of, you know, gave up on a lot of other things that we wanted to do.
Well, you went
to the UW system, right?
Yeah, I did.
And you have a,
student pass, you can buy beer.
Yes, absolutely.
That's excellent.
Good, good.
I didn't use it.
Oh, you didn't use it.
I wish I did.
Yeah.
Y'all must
be reminded to use it.
You sit out on the patio for a while?
Yeah,
sit on the patio
for
a while.
Was there any music?
Did you go in the evening or
during
the day?
We went during the day.
So when did you steal a chair?
From the terrace.
When did you steal that?
That's traditional.
Steal this
chair.
Really?
I gotta start stealing some chairs now.
No, no.
You guys are my idols.
We're kidding.
We're kidding.
You get prison time for that.
Look out for that.
Wow.
Let's see.
The other thing, I went up to Rock Springs to get some water.
Oh, yeah.
You
love getting water up there,
don't you?
I do.
And it wasn't that crowded.
No.
That's about 45 minutes north of here.
Dom case you want some nice spring water.
What is it hot
springs?
Rock springs.
Rock springs.
It's a little
town between Baraboo and Reedsburg out in the country there and you you can just go there with your With your jugs and fill up the water get some water.
Yeah, I go there every oh, I don't know.
What about every
three four weeks?
Is that
it?
Yeah
I think it is.
Yeah.
It's five gallon and fill that up.
And then I have a smaller, you know, one that's two and a half gallons.
Yeah.
It's nice.
It used to be your gas container.
And you see some people out there still with like empty milk jugs and stuff.
And
I'm like, no, don't do that.
That's bad.
Elastic, man.
You
don't want to
do
that.
Don't do that.
You have to use plastic that doesn't leave that taste, that plastic taste, right?
Yes.
Microplastics.
Yeah, you don't want to do that.
Yeah.
So that was my weekend.
Well, that sounds exciting.
I went out toward my daughter's place and there was a winery out there on Saturday, stable rock winery.
Jefferson.
Yeah.
Beautiful little place out of the patio there.
And I had this turkey wrapped sandwich
that was
unbelievable.
And the potatoes, you know, I'm not really a fan of potato salad,
but I
took it other than the chips, like chips or potato salad.
I'm like, I don't want chips.
So I'll go with the potato potato salad.
You can't.
It was the best potato salad I ever had.
It was so good.
And it wasn't all
gummy
or sticky
or anything.
It
was really, really
excellent.
That's the best kind.
It's like almost a German potato salad where it
where it soaks into the potatoes, but it doesn't have this sauce.
Right.
Yeah, it wasn't sticky or anything, and it had had a little tang to it, but it also had a little sweetness to it.
It was really well.
I was like,
man, it was the best.
I'm going back to Jefferson just to get the potato salad.
So how did you manage to go out
there?
It's just, it's
not
real
hard.
What made you want to go out there?
Because my daughter lives out that way.
I thought maybe I'd run into her.
I tried to call
her, but I couldn't
get a hold of her, but I just wanted to get out.
Well, that sounds exciting.
That's a really
good place to stop.
Yeah, there was some music there,
so I
checked that out.
It was very nice.
All right.
Very nice.
You do anything this weekend at all?
Clean the basement?
Yes, I did a little bit
of that.
Was it, did it need a good cleaning?
Did it deep clean it?
It needed a little organization.
You know, the kids have moved, you know, into their apartments now, but they'll leave a lot of stuff out in the open
in
the middle of the walking area and I'm thinking, well, I'm taking care of this.
These guys are never going to get back to it.
I know kids, you know, that's the way they are.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
So dad took care of it.
You're a good dad.
19 minutes past the hour.
Pardon me, I'm all choked up.
Pam Yonkes right around the corner of the fabulous farm babe, next on John and Gordy in the morning.
All right.
Can you hear me?
I
cannot hear you.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
Fine.
Really?
Something happened here.
Oh, you're in the wrong.
I think something on here.
No, no wonder he
plugged his headphones into the world Okay,
now we're ready.
Okay
Scared me here.
I was checking something else out.
I never mind.
I know I know it's behind the scenes stuff Good morning to Pam Yonkey.
Yes
Uh, yeah, no, that's up to me.
I don't do a very good job of it.
This guy's gonna test
it out.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Well, he
hits it
together, you know, it's just only 80 years in radio.
Yeah, that's right.
Just picking up on this.
Waking up
on
Monday.
Oh, man.
Anyway.
Pam, let's talk about
the 50 classes of butter, cheese, sour cream, and ice
cream.
What?
That
all
sounds great to me.
Yeah, me too.
And it's kind of one of those deals where the dairy competition side of the Wisconsin State Fair just keeps growing.
Like I said, they had 50 different classes of different dairy products that they evaluated.
That's already done.
It is part of the Wisconsin State Fair, but obviously you don't want to try to get everything done through the course of that event.
And you can imagine trying to get the experts together that are required
for this kind of a category.
You've got literally people that have to be specialists in every area of the dairy complex and then there are expertise in specific areas too.
So just wanted to give a shout out to some of our local Wisconsin cheese makers, butter makers, custard, ice cream, that's all part of the categories.
They keep expanding because there's so many new categories.
I thought it was interesting.
I looked at, for example, custards and ice creams, and it looked like, to me, almost all of them, along with the fluid milk, are coming from locations along the lakeshore.
Let's say from Green Bay, right
along
I-43 down to Milwaukee.
I thought that was really interesting.
And then, of course, we've got our standard cheese makers that are really doing an excellent job.
Car Valley cheese, Cater cheese, Bob Wilson is crew, the Emmy Roth location.
They've got plants in Madison and the Monroe area.
It looks like Klondike cheese basically dominated everything around the monster, cheese side of things.
So a lot of our local Wisconsin cheese makers now will wait and see if their entry gets them the grand master title at the Wisconsin State Fair.
The one everybody kind of watches grand master cheese maker, but they'll also select a grand master and all the other dairy categories too.
So I've had a couple of pictures that I was sharing about all the judging that has gone on at State Fair Park.
And now we'll just wait for the final announcement of the grand masters.
That'll be coming up right before the Wisconsin State Fair.
Well, it seems like Custard is really picking up steam in this state.
Is this like
a
leader out of all the states in the country, Custard?
I don't know about a leader, but I will tell you that because it's really interesting, I've talked to a lot of individual dairy farms that have started their own ice cream.
making a facility on the farm or gelato is another category that's growing.
And some of it seems to be the startup cost to do a small scale ice cream or custard.
It's not as huge an investment either in time or in actual physical machinery to be able to do that.
If you think about it to make cheese on the farm, you've obviously got the dairy there.
But then you also have to do different recipes, different batches.
And remember, most cheese unless it's like cheese curd has to age for a little while.
That requires not only space, but obviously some patience.
So we are seeing more and more dairies that are either going to bottling their own milk or in some cases, like I said, really getting creative with the flavor profile of gelato or ice cream.
And they are getting help from the Center for Dairy Research on the UW Madison campus.
simple things that I don't think about like crystals in ice cream or gelato.
You have to work through specific procedures and processes to make sure that's not going to turn your audience off.
So like I said, it fascinates me every time I investigate this stuff.
But remember, all these products are a good chunk of these products are going to be auctioned off during the Wisconsin State Fair, the Blue Ribbon Dairy Products auction on August 7th.
And then the money from that will be used by the Wisconsin State Fair Dairy Promotion Board.
And it all goes basically towards financial support of what we call Dairy Lane.
If you're at State Fair Park, you'll see Dairy Education platform areas and also for scholarships for kids that are pursuing careers in the dairy industry.
So kind of a full circle event coming up for Wisconsin State
Fair.
How did the rural scholars program work out from last week?
Yeah, that's kind of a brand new gig.
And basically what it is, is trying to recruit rural kids.
to go to school on the UW Madison campus for College of Ag and Life Sciences.
And I hadn't thought about it.
I went to school up at UW River Falls.
But for a lot of rural kids, the campus itself can just be intimidating.
So this rural scholars program brought 30 kids from seven rural Wisconsin communities.
They got to stay on campus for four days.
So living in the dorm and getting a field for that.
And one of the gals, Tanya Cutforth, basically said that when she
talked to students after the four days.
They said they had finally felt comfortable like UW Madison College of Ag and Life Sciences could be their next home.
Now we just wait and see if they enroll.
That's a big breakthrough.
There is that fear of going to a different city and a huge campus.
Yeah,
that's wonderful.
All
right.
Very good, Pam.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
All right.
You have a good week and a good 4th of July, too.
And we'll talk you Friday.
Actually, Friday, 4th of July.
Oh, 4th of July.
That's right.
All right.
All right, Pam, we'll talk to you next time.
That's easier to say.
29 past the hour.
We're coming back with Idiocracy next on Johnny Gordy.
Indeed, in the morning.
Ooh, yeah.
Stephanie Miller here.
Listen up, my pals, John and Gordy are up for best radio team in Madison Magazine's best of Madison poll.
I know, I was surprised too.
Just kidding, please vote for them because they lead into my show and when they do well, it helps me out too.
Me, me, me.
Love
you,
John and Gordy.
We're always trying to help her.
We
are.
Stephanie
Miller
drives us on.
Yes, we are up for best of Madison and today is the last day to vote.
Yeah, you can go to wmdxradio.com and vote for us.
Also, thank God, right?
Yeah.
Well,
these
guys shut up.
But being in the best of matters, tired of hearing about.
Yeah.
Well, today's the last day to vote.
We've teamed up with Sugar River Pizza Company.
They're also up for Best of Madison, so you can go to our website, go to wmdxradio.com, look for the banner there that says Best of Madison.
You can vote and you can also enter into a contest where because we've been nominated along with Sugar River Pizza, we're celebrating by throwing pizza parties around Madison.
And we just started this up so you can enter that contest and you and a bunch of your friends from your workplace or your office can have a pizza party on us.
We will deliver the pizzas right to your workplace and have a good time.
Yes.
Yes, it's going to be fun.
So enter that.
contest and be sure to vote for John and Gordy for Best of Madison and Sugar River Pizza, too.
That's right.
We're
riding the coattails of Sugar River Pizza.
That's
right.
They're the winners.
We're hoping, you know, that rubs off on us or at least some.
You know, mozzarella cheese.
Well, yeah, their pizzas are unbelievably great.
I know I love it.
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Kurt says.
Sounds like bribery to me.
No, no, not really.
We're just celebrating the fact
that
we're having pizza with people that
like us.
You caught us.
Maybe
they voted for us, but maybe not.
Ah, Kurt's right.
All right.
There we go.
Well, you
know, a little course and, you know, I mean, look what Trump
is
doing to Senator Tom Tillis, right?
Oh, man.
Saying, hey,
look,
I'm going to primary you if.
you don't afford for the big bad bill.
And Tillis says, well, I'm not running again.
That's what his answer
was.
Yeah.
And Tillis also said Republicans are about to make a big mistake.
That's what he said.
I know, you know, I had a few stories on this big bad bill and I can't read them now because it's changed.
Because they keep changing the bill.
They keep changing it.
The parliamentarian in the Senate keeps saying, that ain't gonna do it.
And then she sends it back, and then they rewrite it, and she looks at it again, and then they approve the changes that have taken place, and a lot of it is just mind-bogglingly detailed.
So we'll have that eventually.
I didn't know that they were still rewriting that stuff, and
the Democrats
were supposedly reading this off.
Well, but how do they read something that's still, you know, in the process of being either coerced or rewritten?
Yeah.
Well, and if it goes the way it's still written, I think 16 million people get big cuts to Medicare
or something like that.
It's worse than that.
It's even worse than that.
It's worse than
that.
A lot of people losing food share.
But I don't know where it became normal that we have a president coercing people to vote for a budget bill that they don't like or they don't think is very good.
Yeah.
I mean, coercion is not the way you pass a bill.
Right?
I mean, you convince them by the process, by saying that this is going to do this, this, and this.
And it's not just threats.
I don't know.
What a world.
What a change in atmosphere in this country.
Well, it's the dictatorship for you.
Well, you know, we'll see if they can pass this big bad.
Well,
you would think you would think everybody would be against it because you know
a lot of them
out against it.
Oh, I hate it now.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, once again, he's Mr. Popular, isn't he?
No, not
not really.
He
said
it's utterly insane.
It is.
That's his
quote.
Utterly insane.
He wanted more
cuts.
I mean, if anybody knows insanity, it's Elon.
Right.
So he would much rather put apartheid in place.
So I'm, you know, I'm not taking his advice anytime soon.
Right.
In fact, Professor Scott Galloway, he's got an opinion on Musk as well, and I'm gonna play something from him in Idiocracy.
Okay.
Did we play Idiocracy's intro already?
No.
We did the Best of Madison.
Oh, yeah.
You wanna hear the intro?
That damn thing.
You wanna hear the intro?
Well, yes, why not?
Just
a
little snippet of
it.
You gotta use it.
Use it or lose it.
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
We're there.
Here we are.
All right, let's get to
this.
Okay.
Um, yeah, Professor Scott.
Galloway is a wonderful person.
He knows how to fine tune his message.
And he really knows his stuff about the economy.
We're going to hear his opinion in just a moment.
But I want to get to a little introduction that Nicole Wallace did for Scott Galloway a while back.
And I have this cut here.
This is how she describes Scott Galloway.
Let's listen to cut 70.
Enter Scott Galloway.
New York Times has called Galloway the Howard Stern of the business world, serving up a, quote, heady cocktail of data-driven analysis that appeals to his core audience of men and gives them something they're not getting elsewhere, quote, permission to have feelings.
Galloway stands alone in his ability to crack the code of the Manosphere and not just understand that world but reach through to them his best-selling books and podcasts.
He's an author, an entrepreneur, professor, and hosts many hit podcasts.
There you go.
That's Scott Galloway.
That's her description of Scott.
Sounds like an interesting guy.
Yeah,
breaking into that Manosphere that Doug
And St.
Francis is trying to put together a competition,
yeah, some
kind of monster truck deal.
We'll
get to him later
on.
Here's Galloway's opinion of Elon, and it's a wonderful description.
Let's listen.
Somehow we've decided in America that innovation and money replaces or obviates or excuses to poverty.
cutting off aid to HIV positive mothers, deciding what veterans should get benefits, cutting off SNAP payments, which have shown to have a positive net return when people run out of money for food at the end of the month.
I mean, I think one of the wonderful things about being an American and quite frankly, for me, what it means to be a man and what I try to teach my boys is the whole point of prosperity is that you can protect people.
And I think the two of you are more impressed with Mr. Musk than I am.
I think if somebody is making Nazi salutes, if somebody is being sued concurrently by two women for sole custody of their child, because that person has not spent any time with that child, when someone is so severely addicted to drugs, they can't get their together to show up to the White House without looking exceptionally high.
I don't think that's the right role model for young men.
So what I would ask to all of us is look at what money has done to us.
That if someone can land a rocket on metal scissors or create a great AV, he's a genius.
He's the wealthiest man in the world.
But does that mean we should excuse depravity?
Does that mean unlike Bill Gates, he's not using his billions to help people?
He's not planting trees the shade of which he won't sit under?
I think this is an individual who has literally come off the tracks, who was rabidly addicted to drugs.
and is using his immense power to get people elected and that too many of us excuse what is abhorrent behavior.
I think his legacy is not going to be an EV or putting rockets into space.
I think it's going to be unnecessary death, disease, and disability of the world's most vulnerable.
That is not what it means to be an innovator.
It's not what it means to be an American.
It's not what it means to be a man.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did
see that clip.
That was
Pierce seeing Wow.
It was us.
Yeah.
Pierce Morgan.
Yeah.
No, that was that was a really interesting interview.
And I
didn't
see that.
And Scott Galloway, man, he's right on.
I know.
Amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, because that's what it's come to.
We got this guy who's doing all this damage to the government on behalf of rich people.
Yeah.
You know, so the rich can get ultra rich.
Super
rich.
Why isn't something like this obvious to the Megas out there?
I don't know.
To my mega friend in Milwaukee or CJ or any of the other or Gary doesn't call this show, but he calls the other shows.
Gary, what's wrong with you,
man?
Call us any time, Gary.
That's all right, you
know.
Well, maybe he
sleeps in.
I don't
know.
We got so tired of Elon, right?
Oh,
man.
Yeah, it's so nice to see him not around anymore, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now we still have Trump to deal with him Wow.
All right, but you know somebody else has kind of a Not so great opinion of things going on and it's Joanie Ernst Remember her about you know, maybe you know, everybody has to die, right?
Um, well I Saved
this more
I saved this because I thought this was just
Laughably funny.
It is a pundit, a Republican pundit trying to defend Joni Ernst's condescending comments.
And I thought, you know, it's so much fun to hear them dance around this and try to explain it and make it sound better than it really is.
You can't repair this.
But anyway, they try and I don't know who this is.
Like I said, it's a right wing pundit.
Let's listen to her struggle with this.
And I'm really, really glad that I did not have to bring up the subject of the Tooth Fairy as well.
What did you think about a sitting U.S.
Senator responding that way to her constituents' concerns?
Listen, I think she was trying to do a play on words, actually, is, listen, the fear mongering has got to stop.
What?
Right?
We are cutting.
We are not cutting.
Medicaid.
So it's there for the people that need it most.
But these town halls have gotten a little bit out of hand
with the
fear mongering and just quite frankly the flat out lies.
Let's have an open and honest constituents.
I mean I'm
with the Americans who are expressing concern.
Well there's a what there's a right way and a wrong way to express the concern.
Do it in a respectful fashion and let's have a conversation.
I love that.
Let's have a conversation.
I'm so tired of that phrase.
I can't handle it anymore.
When I hear it, I want to go right off the rails.
Let's have a conversation.
They never want to have a conversation.
They're just pushing us around.
They have the majority.
Oh my God.
Let's have a conversation.
You're not in power.
So screw you.
Thanks
for the conversation.
My God.
You know, when you hear something like that, it's just, yes, it's all, you know, the rhetoric has to be toned down.
She joining her said no respect whatsoever to her constituents right at all.
There was no conversation there She made fun of them.
Yeah,
so Yeah with your stuff God all right, well, I don't know you know, it's it's hard to explain
sometimes it is
Coming up tomorrow, by the way, I want to mention a couple of things.
We've got Brian Bellifon, who's the author of the book, The Sultan of Garbage.
I love the title
of this.
This is all about, you know, we've heard stories for years about this garbage out in the ocean
that has been
collected.
The plastics
and
stuff.
Yes.
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Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
I don't know what's going to happen in this country now that the Supreme Court has allowed a lot of these injunctions to just go to the wayside, right?
I mean, they only apply to the people that are in court.
It doesn't apply nationwide anymore.
The birthright
thing?
Yeah, just everything.
Well, birthright was the first thing.
But now this applies to everything else across the board.
Oh, yeah.
The idea is this.
And I don't understand this because these Supreme Court justices, you'd think they know a little bit more about the law instead of John Peterson telling him what the law is.
But if it's against the Constitution, yes, it doesn't matter.
And
a federal judge rules on it.
Yes.
In a circuit or wherever.
Right.
then it should stop it nationwide because that's the way it's always been.
The Constitution applies to the entire country.
And that's the way it's been.
That's the way it's been.
Until now.
How they made that change is stunning to me.
I don't get it.
I wish Jim Santel was here right now because I have so many questions.
done with the Supreme Court.
I've never seen a more radical Supreme Court in my entire life.
I am, you know, all weekend I was just pacing, I was thinking, why didn't we just change the number of people on the Supreme Court?
Why didn't we do that?
We listened to the old Democrats.
Oh, we can't do that.
Everything's
kind of, you
know, I don't know why.
You know, I'm just done with these people.
Let's change these people.
Let's get rid of them.
I don't want them in.
Congress anymore.
If they can't make the right decisions, let's get younger people who are more driven make the right the pit.
Yeah.
There you
go.
Just settle down.
Remember your blood pressure.
Take a deep breath, John.
I do care for
you.
Come
on.
Take
a
breath.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's just one of those things and we really have to, you know, change the way things are.
Although I, you know, I really have
I don't want to see Governor Evers go.
I think that he should run for election.
Really?
Again.
Dan Schaefer is saying, no, no.
You know, he's great.
He's good.
I really like him.
I think he does well.
But he's too old.
My ass, he's too old.
Well, he's your
age.
Stop it.
Yes.
Yes, he's my age.
So I think that has something to do with it.
It has a lot to do with it.
I feel insulted, Dan.
OK,
that was a
hidden reason why I didn't want to tell anybody.
But thank you, Gordy, for telling everybody my secret.
But I don't think, you know, it's time to turn them out the
pasture.
Well,
don't you think it's up to him, though, to make that decision?
I
mean, not up
to Dan
Scherer.
No,
not to Dan Scherer, to Tony Evers.
Maybe he doesn't feel like doing that anymore.
Maybe
he's had enough.
This market poll came out, OK?
And it seemed like, you know, people were tipping toward not having him run again in
the
poll.
Right.
But if you broke down the poll.
you'd find out that like 91 or 92% of the Democrats want to see him run again.
And the only reason it looks like they don't want to see him run again, it's because like 98% of the Republicans don't want him to run again.
So we can't go by.
that poll, it's ridiculous.
So let's please, I want to see him run.
He's, he's moderate.
And I think
the
state needs that.
I think a lot of Republicans appreciate that, you know, put a stop to what the Republicans are doing in the legislature, right?
At least some of it.
Well, now I'm hearing that maybe Huvdie's going to jump in as a Republican nominee.
Does that
change your mind about.
Tony Evers running.
That's funny, you know, after running for Senate, went back out to California to live.
So he wants to run Wisconsin.
It's like, you know, maybe his home away from home.
Sure.
I don't know.
Why are we doing this?
Why
do we why do we let these carpetbaggers in our state?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Tom, what are you trying to tell us?
Well, actually, we got a Facebook message from Tanya Ray, I think that's what your name is.
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Got to get those last
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You know, what if we, I mean, we gotta go for it today.
Today's the last day, so.
I
want to play something real quick here.
This is Tom Susie, he's a Republican, and he had this to say, this is cut 226.
Should we play that really quick?
All
right,
let's play it here.
There's got to be some waste, fraud and abuse.
There's no question that's 600 billion dollars.
There's waste, fraud and abuse throughout government.
There's no question about that, and we have to go after waste, fraud and abuse.
No, no.
But let's recognize that two thirds of the people in nursing homes are paid for with Medicaid.
Right.
It's senior citizens.
But you can
see that there is room to trim in that area.
No.
Yeah, but what we're seeing from
what we've been seeing so far.
A lot of it's just been reckless.
You have
to have a plan.
It can't just be reckless and just cut, cut, cut without a plan as to how you're going to fill
the really important service.
That's right.
So there's agreement that something should be done.
Just a question on how to do it from your perspective.
Yes, probably.
But you know, I'm so tired of Democrats seeding this whole question of waste, fraud, and abuse.
There isn't any.
There really isn't any of this.
They have audits constantly.
They have
people looking at the figures
all
the time.
The only waste for an abuse are things that they don't like, that Doge didn't like.
Oh my god, dude, does somebody have to school these
people?
Okay, take a break here.
Just relax.
We will be back with more of John and Gordy for a Monday afternoon.
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And
then on top of that, the Trump administration is building a national citizenship data system.
They're plumbing
all
the information from Social Security, combining it with everything else.
And we're seeing that with Palantir.
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Fine deal.
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You know, I didn't see coming.
What?
I didn't see the Supreme Court falling apart.
I really, I am kind of happy to see this happen.
What?
Really?
There is now a lot of friction within the Supreme Court.
It took a while, right?
But now this is like a component I did not see coming.
and the justices are arguing with each other now.
And it's almost like a war, it's a fight, it's a battle.
Wow.
They're making statements about
these
decisions.
My hope is that this will at least enlighten the public and let them know that there is danger on the Supreme Court, that there are radicals, there are...
politically driven justices on the Supreme Court, and maybe this will open a lot of people's eyes if there is this discord within the Supreme Court.
Well, the Republicans have been working on this through the Federalist Society for
decades.
Oh, yeah.
For
decades.
And now they've got what they wanted all these years, all these Republicans, all these conservative Federalists.
on the supreme court and that's what they have and they have the congress they have the house they have the senate they got the white house so they're in charge they're
not textualists these people do not go by the words of the constitution in any way shape or form constitution you know if they if they're getting rid of the nationwide injunctions or giving a a pass to the president to do just about any damn thing you want yeah i've never seen that in the constitution before total immunity
seems
so anyway uh there is discord
on the Supreme Court, so let's listen to MSNBC's Catherine Rampell, her impressions of the Supreme Court.
Let's listen, this is cut 209.
Donald Trump wants to govern like a dictator, and the 6-3 conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court seems eager to let him.
In an impassioned dissent to today's ruling on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson warned of what lies ahead for our democracy, now that her conservative colleagues have curtailed one of the only needs of reigning in potentially illegal actions from this or really any administration.
Disaster looms.
What I mean by this is that our rights-based legal system can only function properly if the executive and everyone else is always bound by law.
Today's decision is a seismic shock to that foundational norm, allowing the executive to violate the law at its prerogative with respect to anyone who has not yet sued, carves out a huge exception, a gash in the basic tenets.
of our founding charter that could turn out to be a mortal wound.
What is more to me requiring courts themselves to provide the dagger makes a mockery of the judiciary's solemn duty to safeguard the rule of law.
That's right.
That says it all there.
Catherine Rappel knows more than the Justices know.
Oh my gosh.
You know, at least we have some on the Supreme Court are making a stand at this point.
And I'm glad to see it.
And I'd love to see this war go on and on and on.
Jen Psaki made some great points as well.
You know, she's turning out to be a pretty good show host after all.
She took her a little
while to get there.
But I think she's starting to make some sense.
So let's listen to Jen Psaki now.
They basically said that the people challenging these orders will have to go state by state, jurisdiction by jurisdiction, to stop any of Trump's unlawful agenda.
And there are a whole bunch of Trump's policies from his federal funding freeze to his new voting restrictions, to his attacks on diversity policies that are currently being blocked by nationwide injunctions.
Now, in a chilling dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor writing for the three liberal justices wrote,
No rate is safe in the new legal regime the court creates.
Today, the threat is to birthright citizenship.
Tomorrow, a different administration may try to seize firearms from law-abiding citizens or prevent people of certain faiths from gathering to worship.
The rule of law is not a given in this nation or any other.
It is a precept of our democracy that will endure only if those brave enough in every branch fight for its survival.
In every branch, that's a key part.
Today, the court abdicates its vital role in that effort.
In a separate concurring dissent, Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson made it crystal clear what this ruling will mean in the very near term.
Here's what she had to say.
What it means to have a system of government that is bounded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions.
And for that to actually happen,
Courts must have the power to order everyone, including the executive, to follow the law full stop.
To conclude otherwise is to endorse the creation of a zone of lawlessness, within which the executive has the prerogative to take or leave the law as it wishes.
And where individuals who would otherwise be entitled to the law's protection become subject to the executive's whims instead.
Well, this decision significantly hamstrings the federal courts.
It did not entirely shut the door on their ability to block Trump's agenda.
We're going to dig into that specifically.
And his concurring opinion, Justice Kavanaugh, leaves the door open for people to bring cases as a large group or a class and get courts to issue rulings that apply to every member of that group nationwide.
In other words, people can still ask the courts to block Trump's policies across the entire country.
if they can manage to do the hard organizing work of finding big groups of people who will be negatively impacted by them and getting them to come out.
It is possible that we will look back on today's ruling as the day when the fight against Trump in the courts and the fight against Trump in the streets became one and the same.
Right, exactly.
Yeah, it's a really good commentary.
It
was so surprising and it was shocking when...
this decision was made.
You know, you can't wrap your head around this stuff sometimes.
It's just mind-boggling.
And these are people who should know the difference, especially when it comes to breaking the law.
If the president breaks the law, it breaks the law for every one of the 50 states, right?
It's not just that local court.
everywhere.
And I have another cut here, and this is a cut 221, get that ready.
Retired UW professor Howard Schweber says the Supreme Court decision to limit the use of nationwide injunctions could have implications on future cases, such as those brought by certain states to challenge the federal government over funding cuts.
Politically, he says, this is the Supreme Court giving the Trump administration a very, very
big green light.
Now these courts are not going to know what to do now because they are not sure of their own power at this point.
So let's listen to this.
This is really an interesting discussion on Fox News.
I caught this.
Now listen to the last guy speaking.
He makes a really good point about all of this.
Let's listen to this.
We just thank again the Supreme Court for this ruling.
It's a giant.
It's a giant.
And they should be very proud.
And our country should be very proud of the Supreme Court today.
Well, the Supreme Court handing President Trump a major win, significantly narrowing the scope of those nationwide injunctions that have hindered the administration's policy agenda for months.
Well, 35 nationwide injunctions came from five district courts, Shannon, as you know.
And ultimately, what this the last week of the Supreme Court term indicates is a tremendous and outdated corrective by a conservative court to decades of.
liberals weaponizing the judicial system.
And so one of the losers that was not very happy about being in the dissent was Justice Jackson.
She wrote a solo dissent to this nationwide injunctions case.
And she said this, the decision will surely hasten the downfall of our governing institutions, enabling our collective demise.
The majority shuns this prescient warning, even if such institutions may be destined to pass away.
It is the duty of the court to be last, not first to give them up.
Six of them.
on to this, did go after Justice Jackson's dissent, and here's what they said.
They said she chooses a startling line of attack.
She offers a vision of the judicial role that would make even the most ardent defender of judicial supremacy blush.
Justice Jackson would do well to heed her own admonition.
Everyone from the president on down is bound by law.
That goes for judges, too.
Richard.
Oh, thanks for having me, Shannon.
Number one, I do think the points are critical flaw in the Trump agenda.
Much of it is executive orders, right?
And the reason why the
These injunctions have been passed, been ruled on by judges across the country, is because they are executive orders and not legislation passed by the building they're behind you.
And I think that's problematic for the Trump administration.
While I do think this expands executive power, both for Democrats and Republicans, both pointing out that Republicans use these national injunctions against Joe Biden, as well as President Barack Obama.
And so now that, you know, this is the, this is the, this is a pop call, the kettle black here, when it comes to them saying, now we appreciate this decision.
With that being said, I do think it sort of paints a larger problem.
for the country.
What happens in this birthright citizenship case, specifically, in a world in which you have to now file a class action lawsuit for the unborn, who will be born in this country?
Will they have citizenship?
And I think that is the critical question that the Americans will ask themselves.
There's a lot of confusion in this moment.
And I think there's a lot of federal judges that do not know the limits or the length of their power.
And I think that's indeed problematic for a judiciary's job, that is to check the administrative branch and administrative authority.
Yep, there you go.
I think it sums it up in these are, you know, executive orders.
They're not laws passed by the
Congress.
So
yeah, just stop the guy.
That's
all.
Let's go to the phones right now.
We've got Joe on the line.
Welcome, Joe.
Good morning, Joe.
Well, I first wanted to make a comment about that woman who said that the majority in the Supreme Court said that all are bound by law from the executive on down.
No, they aren't.
I thought that they ruled that the president was immune.
Exactly.
Right.
Well, but I wanted to bring up the point.
This is from an NPR article and it's a statement from Sonya, a Supreme Court Justice, Sonya Mayer.
And she's talking about the Trump's legal cases against deportation.
And here is the quote, and it is very concerning people.
She said that the US government already believes it could deport and incarcerate any person, including US citizens, without legal consequence, so long as it does it before the court can intervene.
Um, you know, that's kind of worrisome given the number of people are being kidnapped by mass agents and, um, where we have the situation now where, uh, we have Trump saying to the El Salvadorian president, yep, we're going for home groans next.
Yes.
Home groans.
Are you and me?
Okay.
Yes.
This question about does birthright citizenship protect you?
Um, they're waffling on that.
And just a Supreme court justice Sonia Sotomayor is telling us in the loudest way that she possibly can.
Hello.
Look at this.
A follow-work of what we assumed, which is born here, American citizen, and I get protections of what my constitution offers.
Maybe not.
Take care, folks.
Mike
Traff,
Joe.
Thank you very much.
Joe, thank
you.
Thank you for that.
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I guess we'll just have to move on from there.
That's something about Spinal Tap.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They got a new movie coming.
They have they have
Well, we'll get to the new movie in just a few moments, but first a 4k version of Spinal Tap is coming to a theater near you.
Oh, yeah, this is gonna be really cool.
They've cleared it up.
They've made it much nicer looking so and you could see it in a movie theater.
That would
be great.
Now one of the big jokes in Spinal Tap
was the band's brilliant idea of increasing their volume level to 11.
Of course.
Big highlight.
Instead of 10.
So I have a clip, so let's listen to a part of Spinal Tap.
This is a top to what we use on stage, but it's very, very special because if you can see, the numbers all go to 11.
Look.
Right across the board.
11, 11, 11, and then...
Amps go up to 10.
Exactly.
Does that mean it's louder?
Is that any louder?
Well, it's one louder,
isn't it?
It's
not 10.
You see, most bloke's gonna be playing at 10.
You're on 10 here, all the way up, all the way up,
all the way
up.
You're on 10 on your guitar.
Where can you go from there?
Where?
I don't know.
Nowhere, exactly.
What we do is if we need that extra push over the cliff, you
know what we do?
Put
it
up to 11.
11, exactly.
One louder.
Why don't you just make 10 louder and make 10 be the top number and make that a little louder?
These go to 11.
Great movie,
and the new one's coming out soon.
It really is.
Now, this was the ad on X from the Marcus Theaters, who are gonna show this, by the way.
Oh, good.
Okay.
They wanted to remaster the film in 11K.
Really yeah, but for now 4k will have to do this
is
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They
should pay me
for
that.
Now, let's get to this.
Just one more.
You were talking about this.
Spinal tap two.
Oh, yes.
The end continues.
That's the sequel to the mockumentary.
There are a bunch of cameos in this, too.
It'll receive theatrical leaves released sometime, September 12, I believe.
Oh, then.
September 12.
All right.
For the second and last.
and continues version of Spinal Dev.
All right.
All right, let's go to the phones right now.
We've got Dick on the line.
Welcome, Dick.
Good morning, Dick.
Is Dick still
there?
He
might have left, yep.
I think he left.
Dick, you can call back and
we'll get you in just a few minutes here, okay?
I mean, yeah.
Well, I can't wait till
September.
I mean, but I guess I have to for the new Spinal
Dev.
What's it called?
The
End.
The End continues.
I've heard that there's some major, major rock stars.
that make cameo appearances.
That's the word.
They tried to dig that out of one of the actors and he wouldn't say anything.
One person responded on Facebook over the announced release saying, very troubling to learn that Spinal Tap has remained together for this long.
That's 41 additional years of dying drummers.
When will their reign of terror finally end?
There is some early word on some of the
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There he is.
We just have a minute here.
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ahead.
I'm reporting that the dew point is high to smorgasbord.
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no.
No.
Real quick, um, there's a feature article in New Yorker from the beginning of the month on a guy by the name of YARVON.
He's a tech geek from Silicon Valley.
Yes.
Uh, you want to read something that'll make you just cringe, read it.
Yeah.
This guy is scarier than L.
I know, Dick.
You missed, you missed it.
We covered the, we covered YARVON's influence on the administration.
Yeah.
People
put project 2025
together.
Yes.
Yeah.
scarier than all get out.
You
got it, but that's a good tip.
Where is that again, New Yorker?
I think the ninth of June issue.
Okay.
The long feature article on him.
If you can read it and stay with us the whole time without being scared to death.
I
know.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
Appreciate that.
29 pass coming right back.
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Mark.
What are you
talking about?
I'm
on
the phone right now.
Okay.
Mark, welcome to the program.
Good morning.
Yeah, good morning.
To top off what Joe said this morning, I mean, is this supposed to be quality of rights across this country?
In some states, you'll have birthright citizenship in some places, Joe.
He'll not until it gets to the Supreme Court for their ultimate decision where they go.
I don't know how they can avoid the whole line that every portion born or naturalized in the United States is a citizen and has all the rights entitled to a citizen.
You can't just spread those rights.
What's next for these guys to declare the 13th Amendment?
Well, we can have involuntary slavery in this involuntary servitude in this country because
we'll convict all these people of crimes that we put them to work in the fields rather than you know that the immigrants that have been working in the fields and that's just okay because it does the technical language does save you know but if you can make a good crime you can be you know have to do involuntary servitude yeah yeah i mean it's next yeah i just wouldn't have been reading uh... with ben gayats uh... book strongman the trump administration shows so many parallels with
with the strong men Mussolini, Gaddafi, Hitler, Bellosconi in Italy, the whole sexist thing of demeaning women is just part and parcel of their whole modus operandi and how women go along with this is just beyond me.
Though they, you know, what she says they actually do.
I mean that for some reason they think that they're going to gain favor or that
They don't think to stand up for the rights is actually something worth fighting for and I just do not understand it.
I do not understand it and
I know
hold nonsense It is just beyond me to say the Supreme Court couldn't defend the Constitution because they take it off to support and support the Constitution like any other public official and that they failed completely completely decision
They act like we're not a United States after all.
So
every state can be either under the Constitution or can kind of get around it a little bit, depending on what state you're in.
And by the way, the Supreme Court order blocks Trump's anti-Birthright citizenship order from taking effect in Wisconsin.
Oh, is that right?
And 21 other plaintiff states.
So any state that was suing in order to keep birthright citizenship in place, they are exempt from the order.
So the other states can decide that if you have a child born in their state, they're not a citizen.
Isn't that beautiful?
Okay.
Doesn't cause chaos or anything like that, right, Martin?
And unfortunately, with our Supreme Court just decided that our Attorney General does not need to get the permission of the legislature to proceed with a case or, you know, for a settlement on a case, because that might apply right here, too, because I can easily see our Republicans in our state legislature right now defend Trump's, you know, birthright citizenship up, overturning.
You know, I think there's just as many, I think that they're all too afraid to stand up to Donald Trump.
Bill turned to the testicles Donald Trump and And how happy happily did it?
Well, you know the fact that you know Trump has to course course and threaten Republicans to vote for the big bad bill is I think that says a lot about how
Nice, that bill is.
All right, Mark, thanks for the call.
Thank
you, brothers.
Yeah.
Thank
you,
Mark.
Several immigrant rights groups, by the way, a class action lawsuit, which is what you have to do now, and the Supreme Court says,
it
has to be a larger, bigger group in order to make something like this happen nationwide.
Okay.
Okay, so that's what's going on right now.
So there's some immigrant groups that are banding together to do this?
Yes, yep, they're
banning to do it as a class action.
So if it's a large enough group, it'll get before the Supreme Court and then the Supreme Court will rule on whether birthright citizenship is in the Constitution.
We need
somebody to just point it out
about the Constitution.
We may have to call Jim Santel in tomorrow to get an update on some of this stuff.
This is
driving me
crazy.
I'm driving everybody.
Here's a line.
That's what the dissenters were so freaked out about.
Retired law professor Howard Schweber said, referring to the dissent from the liberal justices, the federal government may be perfectly free to go around arresting or deporting people who retrospectively will turn out to have been US citizens all along.
So
they have to get the people that
deported back again because retroactively
Oh, they were citizens
after all.
Oh, they were, so let's get them back.
Yeah.
That's something
else.
Okay, good luck with that plan.
All right, you know, maybe this is something we should have saved for idiocracy, but I just... What do you got?
You know, the right wing.
is a little on the nutty side, okay, and talk show host Benny Johnson, I didn't know how crazy this guy was until I saw this clip.
He was
talking to
Tommy Tuberville.
Oh, okay.
Benny Johnson is a talk show host.
Okay.
One of the alternative media people.
All right.
And he went on to suggest that maybe we should end blue cities.
All right, this is fascist stock, man.
Tuberville warns the great replacement is happening and demands we hunt down the criminal rats in America's inner cities, cutting off funding and deporting them.
Let's listen to that.
This is just a mind-boggling conversation.
What they're suggesting is so impossibly crazy that I can't even wrap my head around this.
This is true fascism.
Let's try it on for size.
It seems like they've already
executed on the plan.
The plan is, of course, infinity criminal alien migrations, get rid of all election security, and then you can fundamentally change forever the makeup of the American electorate and get your Marxist agenda here in the country.
And we're seeing it play out.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
It is.
It's not even a theory anymore.
No, it's a conspiracy.
The Great Replacement is real.
And it's actively happening in America's largest cities at scale.
And so it just seems like, yeah, it just seems like an alarming moment.
Well, that's the easiest place to do it, Benny.
And the big cities where they have all these government handouts,
where
they can hang out on the street, steal whatever they want to steal.
Chicago, Detroit, they're all next.
It'll happen in the big cities.
It'll sweep across the country.
And then they'll try to start going into the medium sized cities.
But
we can't
wait to that point.
You know, we've got to call it out.
Would you recommend that he potentially cut off funding to these cities?
I don't know why blue cities and sanctuary cities are allowed to even exist, but given the fact that he's promising to do this, should the Trump administration prepare for some severe penalties for New York?
New York, of course, couldn't exist without federal funding.
Again, these intercity rats, they live off the federal government.
And that's one reason we're $37 trillion in debt.
And it's time that we find these rats and we send them back home that are living off the American taxpayers that are working very hard every week to pay taxes.
I think the entire country was sort of shocked.
The New York that we thought we knew is gone.
And that's a sad thing because you can't rebuild in New York.
It's an American city.
I thought it was an American city.
Um, yeah, but that's that said he's gone right this New York we grew up with Yeah,
that's gonna
talk on the
right
what
that's what passes for intellectualism.
He said all blue shitty
Cities should be just yes gone.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, they shouldn't exist
and
New York by the way probably finances most of the South You know their their federal tax is probably finance
most of the programs that the south uses He wants to clear out those rats and say we're back where they belong the rats.
Where's
that?
Yeah
Back to the inner
cities where you're keeping them
while you fund the billionaires and millionaires.
And
by the way, you notice this, and this is something that has been brought up a number of times on the right.
And most of these Trump fascists out there are talking about how the national debt is the responsibility
of poor people.
They have
created the national.
Poor people
have created the national debt.
How is that even possible?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
Did
they overspend?
Is that why they're poor now?
Oh, because
they're getting on subsidies and they're getting food stamps.
Oh, yeah.
It's the
poor people.
So $37 trillion in debt.
I
think most of that was added, by the way, by Trump the
last time
he was in office.
Yeah, it seems like it.
Well, anyway, that's what's going on.
On the other side of the earth
the flat
side
We haven't heard from the flat earthers.
No, we haven't really heard from there Where are they anyway?
They should be out here with the
rest of the loonings man.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Well
I don't know you know when you when you hear these people talk You know and not and there are the alternative media now and a lot of people aren't watching regular everyday news because you know, it's fake news They're actually just believing most of this stuff
for
whatever reason
I don't know why they're believing this stuff get it either You can chime in if you want 608 879 8255 608 879 talk or
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We're still we're still
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Just need a few more.
Yeah, just all of us.
So, you know, that's something here.
OK, listen to one of them.
Oh,
sure.
Go ahead.
Yeah, let's tell that John Peterson fella.
He ought to mind his own damn business and shut his pie hole once.
for all.
I don't sound like Tommy too.
Or Troy, you know, he's
Troy.
Yeah, where's Troy?
He's in Mount Horriby.
Troy from Mount Horriby.
Tell that bittersing guy to shut his yeah.
Like Troy caught back with another voice note.
This is a
this is a meme we have to screen people who are moving to this country Make sure they don't have this meme on their phones.
Okay.
All right We can do that.
Let me let me just bring that up.
Talk about that just for a second here You know there is now an edict out saying effective immediately all individuals applying for an FM or J Non-immigrant visa people coming into the country
on
vacation are requested to adjust
privacy settings on all their personal social media accounts to public to facilitate vetting necessary to establish
their
identity and admissibility to the United States.
Okay, that's crazy stuff.
All right, we will be back to wrap things up for this Monday in just a moment on John and Gordy in the
morning.
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All right,
let's get back to the last part of John Oliver's special.
Oh, the AI
slop?
AI slop.
And that's the term they use for all this junk that's being cranked out on the internet and social media.
So let's listen to his wrap up on AI slop, which by the way, you'll see a lot of on her own website soon.
OK.
That's
an idea
that I had.
I'm sorry.
All right, let's
go with it.
The very fact people doubted what they saw on the internet actually comes with a bit of a downside.
as this disinformation researcher explains.
Because people know that something might be a deep fake, they actually then stop believing in real things that actually did happen.
um, discount a true story, uh, because they're able to tell themselves, oh, I think that might be a deep fake, actually.
Right.
It's not just that we can get fooled by fake stuff, it's that the very existence of it then empowers bad actors to dismiss real videos and images as fake.
It's an idea called the Liar's Dividend, which I know sounds like an airport spy thriller James Patterson f***ed out in a weekend.
But it is a real problem, and you don't have to look far to see people doing this.
A lawyer for one of the January 6th defendants argued that the government's evidence was deep-faked, which is an extremely funny thing to say about a coup attempt that was live-streamed.
And just two weeks ago, when Gavin Newsom posted this real photo of soldiers deployed to LA sleeping on the floor, the conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer retweeted a claim that it was fake, saying, looks like Gavin Newsom used an AI photo to smear President Trump.
And of course, Trump's done this too.
He falsely claimed photos of Kamala Harris greeting a large crowd where AI generated, and when Democrats cut together videos of him having old man moments, he blamed that on AI as well, saying, artificial intelligence was used by them against me in their videos of me, which actually might be the most AI generated sounding sentence in this entire piece.
So to summarize, AI slop.
can be somewhat lucrative for its creators, massively lucrative for the platforms that use it to drive engagement, and worryingly corrosive to the general concept of objective reality.
And now, I've shown you a simple three-step process on how to make it.
But, you know, please don't.
Especially given I just saved you from paying $17.99 to a cat in a sombrero.
So, what can we do?
Well, the truth is, not a lot.
Some platforms have started labelling AI content, but even those attempts have been lackluster, meta.
For instance, recently started requiring an AI label when content is realistic, but notably that only applies to audio and video, not to images.
I'm not saying some of this stuff isn't fun to watch.
What I am saying is, some of it's potentially very dangerous, and even when it isn't, the technology that makes it possible only works because it trains on the work of actual artists.
So any enjoyment you might get from weird, funny AI slop tends to be undercut when you know that someone's hard work was stolen in order to create it.
There
you
go.
Now, AI slop.
We are going to imagine a future product that we'll have on our...
website that really
on our member we should
we spitball a
lot of ideas we generate
them
see how they look and right
yes and maybe get your input and see mm-hmm would you like to buy that
yeah get
away with this kind of stuff we
can too
yes
Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
All right.
So
well, okay.
Well, let's get to a
couple of text here.
We have Mark who we heard the Tuberville quote where he called rats in the inner cities.
Well, rats is the term Nazis used for Jews
and other people they
called undesirable.
So just
wanted to get that out there.
I was going to mention, I forgot to mention that.
And now Don Kluge in Wild Rose
says
Republicans are crude.
Every segment should start with Republicans, for example.
The Republican great.
Depression.
A
great
recession.
That's what it
was, a great recession at that time in 2008.
So we should probably
do that.
I think that's
a good idea.
We'll have
to thank
you for that, Don.
We appreciate that.
Hey, tomorrow on The Big Show, Brian Belafonte will join us.
He's an author of the book called The Sultan of Garbage.
He went out there to look into that, you know, all that garbage that's floating in the ocean that's all sort of collected out there.
Fascinating story.
He'll join us as well as Liz Johnston from Serenity.
Pet Spa.
She will be with us tomorrow as well.
That's going to wrap it for us for this Monday.
Stephanie Miller is coming up next.
Have a wonderful day.
I hope she does a good job because
we just let into her
show.
Yes, we did.
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow in 22 hours.
Have a great day so long.
