Dive into the debate as John and Gordy dissect Pete Hegseth's press conference disaster, where he gets flustered defending his choice of words that snub female bomber pilots. The duo mocks the media's obsession with race and gender, drawing parallels to Sean Spicer's infamous inaugural crowd size claims. They also explore the bizarre 'Ice Raid' app that rewards users for photographing undocumented immigrants. Even CJ hops on the line to discuss topics of difference!

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