From the depths of a digital abyss, where truth drowns in a sea of clickbait and algorithms, a beacon ignites.
From the heart of Badgerland, from our studios on State Street in downtown Madison, Wisconsin, it's John and Gordy on 92.7
WMDX.
Yeah, but he just scurries out.
What?
He kind of scurries, scurries out of the studio.
Yeah.
Well,
let me talk to him.
No,
he won't talk to anybody.
Oh, our mics are on.
Oh, we're
on the air.
WMDX 92.7.
Good morning.
Happy Monday.
Oh, I love
it.
I love being in an air-conditioned studio.
It's nice.
Yeah.
Feels pretty good
today.
Wow.
Yeah.
There was a miserable weekend.
Yeah, the heat.
And it's going to be another hot one today, too.
Really?
What does the National Day calendar say?
No, why do you go right there?
Not doing the National Day calendar anymore.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
It's off the boards.
That's right.
We're not even going to take a peek and see what.
I'm not even going to talk about it.
Well, it looks like we have a family disagreement here.
Good morning, Dom.
How are you doing?
Yeah, what's going on?
I'm doing pretty good.
I'm doing pretty good.
Yeah, it was your right.
It was very hot this weekend.
I mean, even right now, my hands are just so sticky.
It's just like my body is just filled with just stickiness.
It's terrible.
Yeah, that's what it's all about now.
I suppose you did a lot of yard work around the apartment.
I
did actually, speaking of that, I did get two plants, two nice plants to decorate my apartment.
What kind of plants?
I have no idea.
They're fake, so
it's just two small
plants.
Good for
you, I was
gonna
say.
That's a death sentence.
A guy buying plants for his apartment.
Usually, I've done that one time and they've died within a couple days.
It's not
good.
Well, look at the sunshine out over State Street this morning.
Well, I had a hard time driving into work.
The sun blinded the horizon.
I know.
Yeah, looks like skies are fairly clear.
It's going to be a bright sunny day until late in the day.
We're going to maybe expect some showers and thunderstorms this afternoon.
That'll help to get rid of some of the humidity that we're going to experience again today.
No,
we're going to hit
rain all week long.
Well, yes.
Then the humidity goes up again to 100 percent.
Right,
right.
Yeah, we are gonna have rain off and on Pretty much all week.
Yeah.
Yeah, but this first blast will help usher in a cold front It'll kind of be a stationary front for much of the week.
You were the smart
guy in all of this,
you
know
You did your lawn prior to the massive heat wave
that we have here.
I heard the heat wave was coming I thought well I'd better mow my lawn first because it needs it and you
hung out in the gazebo I did
Taken in the wind.
I had at least it was a little windy.
It was really windy
day before yesterday.
Yeah
Gordy, how do you cut your lawn, by the way?
Is it, you know, is it diagonal?
Do you do just straight forward?
How do you do it?
You haven't
been to my
house
yet.
I haven't.
I haven't.
Okay, well, I have to have you over.
It's not much of a lawn.
It's very tiny.
Okay.
So it doesn't really take very long.
There's one long strip by the sidewalk,
and then
a couple of little smaller strips by the other side.
I live on a corner.
So there's two, like, corner strips.
Okay.
And that's about it.
And then a little patch in the backyard, which is about...
four feet by four feet.
It's nothing.
He's not telling you about the alien plant that is the corner of his lot, near his garage.
We couldn't identify it.
With my leaf identification app, we didn't know what the hell plant that was and we still don't know to
this day.
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because after you left, that was a couple of months ago, right?
It blossomed into, it's a lilac bush.
We just didn't recognize it as a lilac bush, but it was it is and it was and it bloomed and you know lilacs only the last couple of weeks two three weeks Yeah, then they're then they're done.
So yeah, that's the other so identified it.
Yeah, I did identify it.
I
don't know why my
app did not identify
that
Yeah,
yeah,
you know, I don't know
either The day of the triphids.
I don't know if you ever watched that movie.
It's it's from like
the 60s, it's an English film and these plants from outer space invade the earth and take it over.
The day of the
triphids.
The day of the triphids.
No,
I've never heard of it.
Yeah.
It was kind of boring in there watching
a
science fiction movie about immobile.
plants.
Not a
lot
of action.
No, there wasn't a lot of action.
Doesn't have the best reviews on rotten tomatoes either.
4.5 out of 10.
That's okay though.
For
a 60s horror movie,
you
know, yeah, that's not too bad because you always wait until the end of the movie to show you the monster or the plants in this case.
Well,
let's see.
Let's check the current temperature.
Do you have your WMDX watch ready to go?
Did you forget it today?
No, I have it.
I have it here.
But the current temperature appears to be on the WMDX thermometer outside.
It's 76 degrees.
That's what I have here.
Okay.
Okay.
High of 92.7.
Really?
How ironic is that?
That's amazing, isn't it?
That's a great temperature to have, I guess, for this
time of year.
Yeah.
Oh, wait, wait, you know, I should probably fill
everybody in as far as what the low temperature tonight is gonna be.
Okay.
As we plan ahead.
Yeah.
71 degrees, that's even better than it was.
What about sunset?
What time is sunset?
Sunset.
Yeah, today, you
know, we're confused and days to confuse.
Sunset is at 841.
841.
Okay.
And there is a heat advisory today.
Yeah.
Should we roll the weather wheel and see what, or not.
We're going to skip that today.
What do you feel like?
Look, that's not banned.
OK.
That's not banned yet.
Not yet.
OK.
And round it goes.
The counterclockwise motion.
Let's see.
Oh, this says only.
88.
Red 88.
I think it took an extra hop
there.
It did.
It was really quiet.
It was really nice.
Okay.
A little bit later on, in fact, in just a few minutes, about 10 minutes from now, we'll talk to Pam Yaki.
She's got some things to say.
Boy, she does.
Yeah.
A lot of things going on in Ag.
Well, especially with farm animals dealing with this kind of heat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's going to tell us about that.
And Abby Abramovich from Dundren's Distilling.
She'll be joining us in our seven o'clock hour, as well as former Madison Mayor Paul Socklin.
So we got a jam-packed show.
Well, you know,
we had a question, remember?
At the end of the program, last time we talked to Paul.
Oh, I don't remember the question.
Really?
We asked him or I asked him.
What?
What did you say?
Paul, what do you remember from way back in the 60s?
What was hot then?
Was it music?
Was it politics for you?
Was it the protests?
I want to find out what
for him was the important part of the 60s and 70s.
And see where he goes with it.
I think he's gonna appreciate that question.
But you know, maybe by then we'll have another topic and we get to ask him about that too.
Like this ridiculous, what are we calling this?
It's not a war.
You know what it is.
Military action?
I heard this on public radio and I thought, whoa, yes, takes you back.
This is a preemptive war.
Oh, okay.
That's what it is
Again again,
we have another preemptive war at the last two and that is the Iraq war was a preemptive war and now we have the Iran war which is another preemptive war and there's they're the ones saying that they know for sure that there were bunkers or bombs, you know, I
I'm having a hard time watching any of this because this is deja vu.
I don't
want to see this again.
This
is
the same BS.
These are the same lies.
They're so sure of themselves.
I don't believe anything I'm hearing from them and I don't care about their...
Damn maps showing where the bombs are.
This is all BS.
This is all just orchestrated It's theater and I'm really angry about it because I don't want to go through this again
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there.
You whenever they talk about well, it's a focused military action You know, it's a very it's a very limited like you say very limited Action we're done.
We're see ya.
Well, we're out of here.
Yeah, it's a
It's really just the beginning.
We've got mad is on the line.
Is he on the line
mad on the line
already?
Yeah, why don't we want to take this call?
All
right.
What do you got so eight eight seven nine eight two five five?
Yeah Good morning.
Good morning guys
How
you doing?
I wanted to chime in quick.
I heard you guys talking about Iran It is exactly like Iraq.
It's all lies Israel owns our government apparently, but I want to bring something
to focus here that's not talked about at all, especially in our media, is that America is no longer as strong or influential as it used to be.
America is 4% of the world's population.
India and China are 40% of the world's population and growing.
The rest of the world, this is good news, actually.
The rest of the world is actually taking climate change real.
They're moving beyond America.
They're done with us.
Trump has buried our relations with our allies, so why would you go to war when you're basically alone because everybody hates us thanks to Trump and MAGA?
Exactly.
And this is a disaster, and we need to impeach and remove from office immediately.
That's my yeah, well, I know I appreciate
your two cents, you know, maybe I could add my two cents and
I've
got four cents
Doesn't make any sense to me, but go ahead
but you know mad I what I'm looking at here is that we are Definitely alone in this world and at this point I don't see a lot of people joining hands with us on this and again It is a repeat of the Iraq war the run-up to it reason why we've got to go in and again
If no one's repeating it enough, this is a preemptive war.
And they're just making
this
stuff up.
And you know, it was The Daily Show, had a whole bunch of clips together and then a few other MSNBC shows, had a few clips together of Netanyahu talking about, they have a bomb and they're gonna help, they've got it in a couple of weeks.
And that was like 15 years ago, seven years ago, two years ago.
It just keeps making this stuff up.
And now...
And can I say one last thing?
Sure, please do.
Go ahead.
The Iraq war was also the beginning of the end of America's credibility in the world, and in some ways led to Putin invading Ukraine because Russia was very angry about that war.
We had no right to do it.
It was illegal.
And here we are doing an internationally illegal war, a strike on Iran, so we're done.
They're done.
Our credibility is gone.
Remove him from office if you care about a future for America.
All right, Matt.
I'm with you on that, man.
Thank you for that call.
Yep.
608-879-8255.
Yeah, go ahead.
That's the word.
Yeah, that's the word.
He's dropped the mic.
He's out.
Could we do that?
Okay.
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She's up next and talking about farm animals, dealing with the heat, and also a little bit about what U.S.
agriculture ships to Iran.
And we'll talk about that and how that's going to be affected by the military action, whatever you want to call it over the weekend.
All right.
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It is 623 and it's warm already 76 degrees sunshine today.
It's going to heat up into the upper 80s or low 90s once again and maybe some rain and thunderstorms late in the day.
And now it's time for us to welcome Pam Yankee into our show.
What a coincidence.
Good morning, Pam.
Yeah, good morning, fellas.
Thanks for that endorsement, by
the way.
We really
appreciate it being up for
Best of
Madison.
All kinds of enthusiasm there, yes.
You know, you mentioned one of the topics that you'd like to cover today is something I had to live through this weekend with my border colleague.
She wants to go out there and play all the time and hustle me out in the yard.
But boy, oh boy, that heat is not something she is used to at all.
She didn't have to do much out in the yard to become exhausted.
And I think, you know, farm animals have to go through all of this, don't they?
Yeah.
I'm trying a couple of things that people may or may not know.
Obviously your canines and kitty cats were pretty accustomed to this kind of weather and changing up our routine.
I was thinking about it when I was driving this morning that people, natural thing is you want to get your, if you're going to do a little exercise with your pet, you probably are going to do it either in the morning or at night when you think that the temperature is down.
Just remember,
it's not so much today when we've got overcast guys but it will be I'm sure in the next few weeks when that sun is out that pavement is blistering hot on their paws so uh kind of maybe think about that get them on the grass or get them off uh pavement if you're going to go for a jog that can really wear on the pads of their feet pretty quickly the other thing that people just don't realize is how much water an animal actually will take in I saw this is what Nash National Water Day or
National Hydrate Day.
Hydration
Day, yeah.
See if we had taken a
look
at
the
National Day calendar, we would know
that.
I know.
It is National Hydration Day, yes.
All right.
And I thought it was appropriate enough not for just people, but for animals too.
And it's little simple things that we might forget.
Probably just like us, animals do not like exceptionally hot water.
So if you can get a little shade over that tank.
The other thing, just like us, animals do not like dirty water.
It can really, really limit their consumption.
So out on the farm, for example, it's pretty easy for quakes or feed or something to fall in.
The drinking cups, the waterers, even the tanks out in the field.
So routinely double checking that and making sure that it's pretty clean and that there's not going to be a problem there.
Because when temperatures get to 90 degrees, the water consumption, for example, on our cows,
will just about double.
Drink almost double the amount of water at 90 versus 70 degrees.
And now you've got to think that that's more than two gallons of water for every 100 pounds of body weight.
Most of our cows are weighing north of a thousand pounds.
So, you know, take just take that.
So you're looking at 20 gallons of water, that a cow, one cow.
We'll want to try to consume in a day.
Wow.
Multiply that by a herd of 100, et cetera.
And you see why double checking that water supply and making sure everything's going good.
How's do not, well, any animals are not necessarily real excited about eating in the heat either.
That's a real struggle.
We need them to eat so they produce milk.
We need them to eat so they take care of their babies.
And farmers do it a lot of different ways.
I know that many farms will feed multiple times in a day.
so that the the feed doesn't heat up and and you know they won't they don't like that farmers will also water it down a little bit so that it kind of stays uh more attractive to them and then the other stuff that i just wanted to remind people i know a lot of people are into chickens or backyard birds and stuff like that really pay attention to to your birds i remember as a kid on the farm hot days like this i mean they've got their chicken coop but most of our chicken coops don't have the best of
Uh, air movement.
I mean, it's designed to protect them, right?
But it's not necessarily real, real well ventilated.
Chickens, if you see when they start kind of fluffing their wings out, if you see a hand kind of over in the corner and she fluffs her wings out and she's open mouth breathing, that animal is under stress.
Chickens basically can only sweat by panting.
Uh, kind of the same way.
If you see a cow panting or a horse panting, watch out that something is wrong.
They are, they're overheated.
could be to the point of exhaustion.
So you really got to watch that.
And I mentioned it before, pigs do not sweat.
Pigs do not have sweat glands.
So a hog, like I think about county fairs and stuff like that, a hog has to be really, really taken care of.
A lot of shade.
That's why hogs like to be in mud or in wallows.
because they cannot sweat.
So they will open mouth breathe, but you really have to do it for them if those cars are going to be outside.
Same thing like bunny rabbits.
If you've got pet bunnies that are outside, you really have to be paying attention to them.
One of my professional rabbit people said if they get too hot, they'll, what they call blow their coat.
They want to get rid of their hair.
You may want them to look beautiful for the fair.
If you don't give them some relief,
They blow their coat to try to cool themselves.
A lot of kids at the county fair will take old milk bottles and freeze them with water in them and then put that essentially body long ice cube in the cage with the bunny.
And I've seen bunnies on hot days.
They're laying right next to that frozen ice water bottle and cooling down that way.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, that's just that kind of stuff.
Like I said, people with chickens keep an eye out.
You think they're going to be fine outside, but if you see them open mouth breathing or fluffing their feathers a lot, they need some support.
Yeah, my dog, you know, breathes very heavily and they cool off by breathing as well.
And then you see all these birds with their wings spread out and they're on the ground real flat, trying to cool down.
That's true.
Yep, like I said, it's just, I just thought it was important to be kind of mindful of that because we got another
Nasty beastly hot day today and of course take care of yourself.
I hope that goes without saying but you know We think so much about our animals, but if you're if you're out there trying to take care of them You better also take care of yourself
very good Pam.
All
right.
Thank you.
We are
out of
time
for this
time around We'll talk to you again soon.
Yep.
Thank you Okay, you too.
Have a great day.
All right idiocracy is right around the corner on John and Gordy in the
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As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this.
Sorry.
We can
duck and cover.
There's a fallout shelter right there.
There's no way to survive this,
you idiot!
Idiocracy.
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb
sometimes.
That's the high mark.
Pretty dumb.
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Okay.
I'm going to bring it up, aren't you?
I am.
Yeah, something weird happened
over the weekend to us.
Kind of strange.
You know, it was a Saturday.
It was Saturday, right?
Yeah, I think
it was Saturday.
And of course, you know, John and I don't talk to each other over the weekend because, you know, we talk to each other every day
here for a couple hours.
And then we avoid each other for the rest of the time.
Well, we've always said, yeah, let's go out for a beer.
We never do it.
We never do it.
Yeah.
But
I went to Walmart to get some work done on my glasses, and then as I'm walking out across the way in the parking lot, I see you.
I see John.
I'm getting out of my
car.
You're getting out of your car, and I say...
You know, I yell from afar, John Peterson.
Like that.
He startled.
I
was ready to
run.
You were
ready to
run.
Yeah, you were.
Started darting behind the car.
And I said, oh, John, it's me.
It's me.
That's right.
And then I walked over.
And I said, what are you doing here?
And you said, I'm going to the optical department.
Where I just what?
That's
right.
Isn't
that
crazy?
How ironic is that?
I know.
All I did was go, I was getting the Zeiss.
Wipes for my glasses, you know a couple boxes of it and they ran out and that's the only reason I left the house Wipes for my pretty lonely life and then I said
I said well Why don't we
you
know do your thing and and then let's meet at LT gray because we were yeah, we're talking about
my tea
gray or let's read let's
eat great great.
Yeah, we went there and you know, they only They were open at 2 30 in the afternoon.
So they're open at four
on the weekend
So then I came up with the idea, well, let's go to Babes, you
know, over
by Vitance, over there by...
Everybody remembers that Babes, you know, they were kind of... A couple blocks away from there.
...leveled, and apartment building is put in their place.
A few years ago.
But, yeah.
So we went there and it was great.
We ran into
Lynette.
But now they're in Vitance.
They have their own section there for
Babes.
Yeah.
and a beautiful bar and restaurant area and
then
a patio area, they just finished up.
It's gorgeous in there.
It really is.
It's really
amazing, but it was great to see Lynn.
We hadn't seen him in a long while.
I saw him when he first reopened for a few minutes, but yeah, it was good to see him again.
We hung out and appeared.
Really was.
Yeah, it was a good time.
And
we booked an act.
Right, we're going to be appearing there.
You know, one beer and this guy is here.
Yeah, John and Gordy, we sing, we play guitar, banjo.
Banjo, we'll put an act together and
appear at the patio.
What the hell?
You know, the thing is, you got all revved up because he had a big wheel in there.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, he had a spinning wheel.
Spinning wheel.
Like we bring.
Yeah.
It's the night market.
So, you know, they got this big wheel in there, and I'll tell you, once you spin that, baby, that goes on for a long
time.
It's a big professional
wheel.
It does not
stop.
It
went on and on.
Yeah.
I've got to ask, what's on the wheel, though?
Well, you can
win like a free beer, or you can win, I don't know, what else do they have there?
A few prizes on the wheel.
Yeah.
Yeah, you just pick a number and if it lands on that number you get you get something.
You
get all the money out of there.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, they had
some money.
They have a pouch there.
Yeah, so yeah, it's like it's a dollar a spin or something like that.
So you get
half of the money and then I think they donate the other half to charity.
I don't know what they
do.
I'm glad you figured that.
I want to call in up and say that you come up with some new rules.
Wow.
That was good.
Dream on.
Anyway, you did win a beer.
I did.
I did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was nice.
So
anyway, that was
our weekend.
It was
good to run
into, you know, we haven't run into each other in a long time.
We really have it.
That was kind of a kind of fun.
It was serendipitous.
It was serendipitous.
Yeah.
So
so anyway, that
was our weekend Tom.
Did you
have a good weekend by the way?
I had a pretty good weekend.
Yeah, I do anything fun absolutely nothing But that's why it was such a good weekend.
Yeah, no I just sat on my butt and just watched TV I know day straight.
Yeah, are you in a second floor or first floor fourth floor?
Yeah, is it a tall building?
It's a tall building has a pool comes with a pool.
Oh comes with a you know, I would station at
the pool.
Why aren't you at the pool?
It was so hot.
I was I would have all I would have burned all over I don't think it
would have been worth it.
Yeah, well, go into the pool.
I
have to start now.
It's like a magnifying glass.
Enter your burn solid.
By the way, phone lines are open.
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We got a text from Doug here.
A message here.
On Insane Francis, a little suburb of Milwaukee on the lakefront.
And he writes, let's face it, dairy cows are taking care of much better than radio personalities.
Where is your frozen water bottle?
Where is your extra two gallons of water?
I rest my case.
Thank you, Doug, for thinking
of
us in this heat.
Yeah.
Well, we were talking with Pam Yackey about making
sure they're cool.
Unbelievable how much cows drink water to just survive.
You think it would almost be cheaper to air-condition a barn or facility.
I'm sure that the modern ones probably have something like that.
Well, yes.
I would imagine so.
I may be speaking out of turn.
I don't know.
Another great idea from John Gordon.
Well, I
know they have fans,
right?
Air-conditioned barn folks.
Well, the air-conditioned tobacco barns, but that's for a different reason.
How do you know about
tobacco barns?
Well, they have to dry the leaves out, so they circulate air from one side of the barn to the other end.
Is that so?
Yeah.
I didn't know you were a tobacco barn expert.
I'm not.
But I was curious about the giant fans that they have on each end of these long barns.
They grow tobacco around here?
Yeah, sure.
Do they really?
Oh, yeah.
Thought that was a southern thing.
Oh, no, no.
It's some kind of funny looking leaf marijuana or something.
I can't remember what they were talking about.
I'm just kidding.
No, but they do have they do have tobacco fields around here.
Okay, or you say so or used to.
Okay, I'm going way back.
No one smokes anymore.
So I doubt they got the tobacco fields.
Yeah, we're going to do some more research on that.
Okay, you do that.
All
right.
Take care of that.
Well, let's get to idiocracy.
It's
not stupid enough yet.
So let's
need more.
All right.
We need more stupidity besides meeting people in parking lot.
It's our parking lot tour for the summer.
All
right, so weird to us.
I know
Walmart.
I know I rarely go there.
Yeah, and to see you there.
Well, my god.
I thought he was a Costco guy.
I'm shocked.
I do live in
Costco.
I have a little room in the back.
They all know you there.
They do.
Especially your friend.
It's really starting to get sad.
Yeah.
No, I haven't.
You know, she's no longer a greeter.
Yeah.
or an Exeter.
That's right, they have Exeter.
They greet you exiting the store, and she used to be there, but she moved to a different department now, so I haven't seen her in a long time.
But you do get free samples here and there, so it's kind of nice that way.
Wonderful.
Alright, well anyway, let's get to something...
Kind of crazy and nuts.
You remember Sam Cedar at all?
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
Used to be an Air America radio
announcer.
He's got
podcasts.
He's been on for a long time.
He was with Mark Marin for a while on Air America.
Yeah.
So he appeared on Jubilee, I believe.
And Jubilee is the YouTube channel where people get to debate their politics and it's other things too that they get to talk about.
But I look at the debates that they have.
And this is an interesting one with Sam Cedar.
and a very xenophobic nationalist.
This is a woman who really, really, really put them on the spot, but Sam Cedar would not have any of it.
So let's listen to this.
What's the problem with xenophobic nationalism?
Do you think that's better for Americans in general?
To be xenophobic, nationalism is better.
We should have a coherent culture.
Everyone should be a part of the same culture.
We should have assimilation.
Do you get to choose what the culture is?
We already have a dominant culture.
What is the dominant culture?
Based on European and Christian values and identity.
That is the dominant culture.
It's rooted in European identity.
So your argument is
that?
That has been the dominant culture.
Just to be clear.
And we're not letting people assimilate to that.
We're saying you should keep your culture.
And this is why our culture is so divided.
is that Trump is good for those who want a dominant, white, European culture.
I mean, that is what America is.
It's rooted in European identity and Christian values.
That's what it has been.
Would you really disagree with that?
What is it then, if that's not the identity of America?
Well, I think the identity
of America... For the majority of time, America's been a country.
You don't think that's been the identity?
Well, actually, no, I think actually the identity of America has been, you know, for better or for worse, a melting pot in that regard.
Yeah, yeah, maybe since like the 1960s.
Even then, like even we had this idea of a melting pot literally means assimilation too.
It means melting.
It means you're assimilating to the dominant culture.
Is that not what melting means?
And now instead we're saying there's something wrong with
xenophobia.
No.
I mean, look, I got to be honest with you.
You and I have a fundamental disagreement.
We will never see eye to eye on this.
It's a choice.
And people, I think what you're expressing, though, is really what the Trump movement at its heart is about.
And I think that's
the problem.
I mean, I disagree.
I don't think Trump's anywhere close to being a Christian nationalist.
That's ridiculous.
Trump's basically a Democrat from 15 years ago when it comes to social
issues.
So you don't think that he's conservative enough for you?
Oh, definitely.
Nowhere close, no.
He's
not xenophobic enough for you?
No, he's trying to pour a bunch of H-1Bs.
Are you kidding?
Right.
Oh, so you want to get them out, too?
Yeah.
No, I mean, I think you're making my argument for me.
Yes, just
go
live.
That's amazing.
The
xenophobia fear of other people,
you
know?
And it... I think
it's the
perfect example of what is the feeling of the right at this point.
This is what they really want.
They don't want any foreigners in this country at all.
They're going after legal immigrants in this country.
Obviously, they've been doing that for quite a while now, at least the last three or four months.
So, yeah, it's very xenophobic.
Very.
Wow.
And Sam Cedar at the Unjubilee.
Holding his own.
Yes.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
All right, now got a couple of minutes here.
All right.
Yeah, we do.
Let's get to this.
This is Wisconsin mega.
Full bore.
Wisconsin sent an approved legislation to create new felony charges for people who organize or cause injuries during a riot.
Well, also making it easier to sue those who cause property damage during those events.
It's already a law.
They can get sued.
They can be charged for causing damage, property damage.
By the way, this is something that Scott Walker attempted way, way back when.
So, you know, it's crazy.
They're out to get again.
They're trying to get rid of protesting in this country.
That's what they're doing nationwide.
Yeah.
That's the feel you get.
Absolutely.
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Did
we get a second one?
I got tired of the first one that we had.
I never won.
I think we have that second one.
I know we have one of yours and one of John's or John's and Gordy's both of them.
Matt was up there.
Really?
I think Matt was up there.
Matt gave us a second chance right now.
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We have one of them.
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Joe.
Good morning.
What do you got for us today?
Well, there are many topics, obviously the impending quagmire that we haven't in Iran, but I wanted the woman that you highlighted who was going on and on about how we are.
and that's what we should go for.
Hang on a second, Joe.
Hold
on, Joe.
I think we've got...
Joe, could you... We've got some connections.
You might have to call back.
Can you call us right back because I think we had a
little
bit of
a verbally problem there.
Yeah, it's kind of breaking in and out.
Yeah, yeah, see if she can call us right back.
You
know, we have complained early on the way we complained about this is just a repeat deja vu again all over again.
And and that is the war in Iran is now just like the war in Iraq.
And they
say that they're convinced that there were bombs and that they're putting all this stuff together.
But it really didn't happen in Iraq and any happening in Iran.
No proof of it.
It's just it's just a rerun.
All right, let's go back to
Joe.
I think we got Joe and hopefully on a better connection Joe
You with us?
Hey, those
aliens were chewing the wires.
Evil, evil aliens.
I wanted to respond to the woman who was that you spoke of that you highlighted
in the
previous segment, which was we are a Christian nation period.
We are a Christian nation to which I would say which Christians?
I mean, start to look at that.
Optic Christians, Greek Orthodox Christians.
And I would I would point out that the whole reason this country started with those people like Quakers.
You said, I don't want to belong to the Church of England, a perfectly good Christian organization, but they didn't like it.
So they faced incredible harassment.
People were died in custody in jail because of their refusal to back off from their Christian beliefs.
So they come here and they face persecution here.
And so that's why we started out was that you could choose the religion you wanted, whether you were Quaker, Coptic, evangelical, Catholic,
God Almighty, was that woman asleep in class?
You know,
the very
first part of the First Amendment is freedom of religion, period.
It just astonishes me that apparently history class doesn't cover this stuff anymore.
And speaking of Christian, which Christian?
Heaven knows Catholics were excluded from society for a long, long time.
Wake up people.
Let's start with the very first amendment freedom of religion and I won't even get into Iran we
Yeah, or you know that Sam Cedar versus Jewish
and he
never brought
yeah, so Yeah, it's freedom of
religion.
It's just ridiculous and it does show exactly what's going on on the right in the mega side
of
my
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But again, it's a rerun of what we had gone through with Iraq.
Right.
And
I am just so tired of this.
I don't want to watch any of it.
I don't want to see their map showing the location of the bombs or the shelters.
All of this is just made up nonsense.
No proof.
None whatsoever.
Netanyahu's word.
That's what all we're going by at this point.
This this is driving me crazy.
You know, this is
This is what we've been doing here on the show.
We've been reliving our past, Gordon.
Well,
yes.
I know.
It's flashback time all the
time.
The 60s protests, you know, to bring in and ring in all of these different changes, you know, the resistance to war, the women's movement, the sexual revolution.
All of this, we were there at the forefront.
Now we're going through all of this again, but it's all being repealed.
So,
you know, we're
watching it being repealed.
And this is something we'll talk about with the former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin in our next hour.
He's going to join us at 735.
So we can revisit some of this with Paul again, get his take on it.
It's
so
frustrating.
It is a
flashback.
My God, please help us.
All right, I want to get to the protests again.
I only got through half of the story in Wisconsin is going to start
penalizing people for protesting and Scott Walker tried to do this during Act 10.
It failed miserably.
This is a bill coming out of the Wisconsin legislature.
The bill has gone even further.
Neither lawmaker nor the governor would have the power to stop
the police for making arrests during activities that law enforcement deems a riot.
So law enforcement can do just about anything they want.
Now,
more so than
ever when law enforcement gets involved, the National Guard gets involved and they have the bang bombs or whatever they are.
You know what happens is
People get riled up.
They start running.
It looks like a riot, but
it isn't people
are running away
from
these people.
Yes, they're running the other direction Yeah,
so when when they cause this riot when the military or the police come in and sometimes cause these riots to happen All of a sudden now we can just give them carte blanche go ahead The governor can't step in the legislature can't step in just let the police do whatever they want.
That's what our republicans in the legislature
proposing.
Yeah.
Bad news.
It is bad news.
659 coming up in our next hour.
We'll talk to former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Also, Abby Abramovich from Dundren's Distilling will join us.
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All right.
You know, I just kind of want to finish off on this.
The idea that, you know, these protesters are destroying property and they're out of control and they need to be rounded up.
by the National Guard, by the Marines, all of this.
This is just stochastic terrorism, as far as I'm concerned.
They're suggesting that there is an element in this country that needs to be reigned in, and that would be the woke liberal element that they're doing this to.
Ever since the LA protests, not riots, but protests,
We've been watching that very closely.
We talked to an announcer out there in LA and she gave us a blow-by-blow on that.
And it seems to me at this point now, my impression is that the riots, if there is any riot, is caused by the National Guard and the police pushing people around.
For absolutely no reason whatsoever.
I mean you've got 14 people standing in the street and all of a sudden you're being you're pushing them back like they're doing something like they're stopping traffic or something Yeah, it's not a riot.
It's not a riot and it becomes that when you have the flash bombs which normally are used indoors They're not very effective outdoors, but they look fantastic.
It's great showmanship
A lot of people see the reruns of this on the news and they get all antsy and angry and saying, oh, look at the riots, but it's not that at all.
I'm very skeptical now that there are such things as riots without.
Some what somebody causing that and I think it's a National Guard and the police that are causing these things by acting irrationally or pushing people back and around when they don't have to do that,
right?
There've been some isolated incidents and there've been a couple of cars or those automatic cars.
I forget what they
call those
those those cars that
Drive driver.
Yes.
Yeah, and those were you know set on fire, but there haven't been any there haven't been riots, right?
It's not a riot
Just a few people, every time we watch these things, there's just a few people involved.
And now, of course, we're watching the police, or ICE, rather, go out and arrest people and their citizens, and they're telling them that they're citizens, they're showing ID that they're citizens, and their ID is being stolen and taken by ICE.
This is not right.
Something is very wrong in this country.
And then we have a text where this is more of a distraction.
Look, what's going on in Iran.
So we don't look at what's going on in our own cities, the military occupations of our cities.
Yeah, we had that text from St.
Francis, from Doug.
Trump is the master of distraction.
Do you hear anyone talking about LA now?
Except John Peterson right here.
But immigration, Trump controls both the horizontal and the vertical.
And that's right.
I mean, it's just one thing after another.
It really is.
It continues.
Yeah.
OK.
I
know it's exhausting.
I'm exhausted already.
Take a breath.
Take a deep breath.
It'll be fine.
All right.
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All right, why don't we listen to something from JD Vance on
the war?
Oh, do we have to?
Yeah, sadly, this is an AI-generated clip.
Which is, by the way, I go through a lot of show material and nowadays it's very difficult to tell whether it's real or not real anymore.
I'm going through a lot of stuff and I swear that half the things I'm looking at or reading or seeing is just made up.
And I'm a little worried about this.
We're
not
going to have any show material anymore.
But anyway, this is an actual
clip from JD Vance.
Let's listen to 176.
This is 176.
Okay, Kristen.
I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East.
I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America's national security objectives.
So this is not going to be some long drawn out thing.
We've got in.
We've done the job of setting the
nuclear program back.
We're going to now work to permanently dismantle that nuclear program over the coming years.
And that is what the president has set out to do.
Okay.
That's a limited action.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, in the last 25 years, we've had a lot of dumb presidents, right?
Let me see.
25 years ago, it would be 2000.
Yeah, that's so let me see 2000.
That would be George W. Getting us into Iraq by lying about
the weapons of mass destruction, what I remember.
They're all over
Iraq.
Only they weren't.
And then Obama followed George W. He inherited the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, the war on terror, but didn't start any wars.
Not too dumb, not too dumb.
Or how about Biden?
How about
Biden?
Get this, Megas are blaming Biden, who didn't start any wars for not
preventing wars, okay?
So there are wars going on in other countries, but you know, that's because of Biden.
He wasn't strong.
He was weak.
So other countries felt like they could go to war with each other because Biden was weak.
God, please, please, please, please.
Trump beat Biden up over this because he said Biden was weak.
Trump promised he would be strong, peace through strength.
How's that going?
How's that piece through strength thing going?
Right.
Okay, Mark, we've got Mark on the line.
What do you got for us today, Mark?
Yeah, well, first off, it's just kind of horrific, you know, that waking up to see that news.
But on the whole xenophobic thing, for some reason, I was plugged in, I got the whole Supergirl series
on
DVD.
And
the whole
thing there was aliens from another planet, and all the xenophobic there in the language area, I'm calling D.
aliens roaches and uh... uh... kind of parallel language we see today and i mean it was just allegory i mean if there wasn't wasn't just that it was also you know that they'll touch on the trans issue as well there because one of the one of the heroes that came in that and that uh... genre there was uh... the hero dreamer was a trans woman and uh...
yeah
i imagine that trump would want to be banning that today i mean it is it is just uh... it's beyond me with the whole
That we see this parallel.
I mean there they're telling the story like in so many cases stories are trying to tell a truth and in this case that this whole xenophobic thing is just the The alien is the enemy whether it's you know an alien from another another country and Rick in that case was another planet But I mean it is the same kind of hatred we see prevailed or portrayed in these things and it just uh And what really gets me I don't want to hear one another word from CJ or any other magus complaining about
How we didn't bring it to the, uh, Afghans or allies, you know, to this country after we, you know, after Trump surrendered Afghanistan.
Yes.
Yes.
Good
point.
Yeah.
Now they're going to deport that one Afghan who was an interpreter
for us,
who served alongside our soldiers there.
And now they want to deport him.
Yeah.
I saw that video.
That was really, really outrageous.
Yeah.
There was an interpreter and they complained and they whined and they blamed Biden for all of this and not bringing the interpreters back.
And here we are, we're sending them back to Afghanistan.
How's that?
To death, I mean, it is just... To death, yes,
yes.
Yeah, thanks, brother.
All right, Mark.
Thank you for that call.
And thanks for the first reference to Supergirl.
Supergirl,
yeah.
CW.
Yeah, I don't think we brought up Supergirl
over the last year and a half.
I've never even heard of Supergirl.
What?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, I don't know about
Supergirl.
Oh,
yeah.
It was on for a while, you know, four seasons or
so.
Yeah.
It was pretty good.
Yeah.
Pretty good little TV show, yeah.
I don't know.
I forget where that was on.
Martian manhunter was on there.
I
don't remember Martian manhunter.
That's not on my radar.
Coming up in about 15, 20 minutes, we'll be talking to former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Gonna check in with him.
And then a little bit later on, we'll talk to Abby Abramovich from Dundren's Distilling.
Yeah, well, we got another quote here from JD Vance.
Should we play?
Oh,
really?
Yeah, I think we have time.
Yeah, why don't we, why don't we, this is cut 179.
You know, they ignored Tulsa Gabbard's advice.
She said they weren't working
on
a nuclear device.
They're not building a nuclear weapon.
She said that a couple of times.
Yeah.
So let's hear what JD had to say.
I'm Director of National Intelligence Tulsa Gabbard said in March that quote Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
Democratic Senator Mark Warner, the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, said he was briefed on Monday that quote the intelligence hasn't changed.
So why launch this strike now?
Has the intelligence changed, Mr. Vice President?
Well, a couple of things about that, Kristen.
So what Tulsi said back in March is that Iran was producing highly enriched uranium that was only consistent with them wanting to build a nuclear weapon.
There's, of course, an open question about whether they were weeks away, whether they were months away, but they were way too close to nuclear weapon for the comfort of the President of the United States, which is why he took this action.
Weeks or months
away.
Again, we've heard all of this before.
You know, during the run-up to the Iraq war.
This is just the same old line.
Honestly, just changed the script just a little bit.
So, you know, introduce something new, a different argument,
something,
anything.
Again, this is a preemptive war.
This is a war of choice.
That Nyahu's war, he's dragging us into it.
And Trump is just being sucked into this.
He's not a smart man.
I mean, let's face it, and he's...
Fallen hook line and sinker into a new war and this is by the way, this is the guy who promised no wars
Peace through strength.
People recognize how strong Trump is now, so we're starting a
war.
And again, you're supposed to check in with Congress, especially
the leaders of
Congress.
Remember
that?
Yeah, the leaders, the head of the Senate and the head of the House, supposed to check in with them before you launch military action like this.
It is truly amazing how quiet they are.
They're just inviting this administration to do whatever they want.
Later on, if everything blows up in their face, they're going to say, well, we didn't do this.
wasn't under our watch.
No,
no.
We asked the president to do all this stuff and he did it.
And well, you know, it's on him.
That's it.
All right.
Well, it is 19 minutes past the hour.
We will.
I've got something really interesting for him or
low.
Oh, dude.
Coming up.
Yes.
Yes.
This is crazy
stuff.
Okay.
We've got weather next on John and Gordy with Brittany right after this.
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Give us the low down on this incredibly hot weather that we're having and then of course that'll be followed by rain.
Oh man, you know.
It's gross.
We have this
heat advisory again today.
It just won't go away.
I mean you hit what 92 degrees on Saturday.
Yes.
93 yesterday.
93 again today.
Oh, no.
Well, 92.7 actually.
Right.
Yes, I agree.
Overnight lows too.
It's like not even cooling off at night.
You can't open your window.
You can't relax.
You got to keep the AC going the entire time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you said, heat advisory still in effect until seven o'clock tonight.
But we've got some free AC on the way.
There's a positive.
That's my positive spin.
That's the
only positive really coming from it.
Um, yeah, cold front right now is sitting up in Northwest Wisconsin.
It's already 54 degrees in superior.
And we are
looking at showers and storms.
So a few of them, just a little bit of light rain up north right now.
But what's going to happen is this cold front is going to be swinging through, through the afternoon into this evening.
It'll get here about seven in the form of storms in the course.
Yeah, they could be strong and severe.
Probably packing high winds, maybe 60, 70 mile per hour could be in there.
What?
Oh,
no.
I'm going to
take the gazebo down.
Pull up the lawn chairs, folks.
All right.
Yes, do that.
Do that now.
All right.
But yeah, just some heavy rain high winds.
I think really I think other risks are gonna stay further away from you But how we six seven o'clock or so expect that to roll through and then it stays here It just sits over the area
so
we could see some more storms by tomorrow morning It wants to start to lift Wednesday.
So maybe some relief potentially there Wednesday, but then it drops right back down on Thursday Continues to rain.
I mean we could see some flooding risks by Wednesday and Thursday.
It's gonna be gross
It's an 80s.
Well, that sounds fun.
80s is comfortable, right?
I can't wait.
Well, I got a
little surprise for you.
Here
we
go.
This is wild stuff out of the UK, OK?
And I just want to bring this up.
Don't Look Up was a Netflix movie.
And it was where two astronomers were on a newscast warning the world that a comet was about to destroy Earth.
And they were on this news show and they were trying to tell everybody the earth is coming to an end folks We're just warning you we want to tell you the worth of worlds coming to an end and they didn't Care they wanted to keep things upbeat.
Yeah, they anchor people.
Yeah, they wanted to have a happy
little show So I'm gonna play two clips from that show don't look up will be the first clip the second clip was an actual
actual meteorologist on a UK newscast, trying
to give
the bad news.
Now, don't be confused by the Celsius Fahrenheit thing.
He was talking about Celsius, 20 degrees Celsius, or six degrees Fahrenheit.
And then he says, but look out, we're gonna get 104 degree temperature, you know, at 40 degrees Celsius anyway.
So this is, and then the anchors chime in.
Let's
listen to this.
Let's cut 178, listen.
Are we not being clear?
We're trying to tell you that the entire planet is about to be destroyed.
Well, it's, you know, there's something we do around here.
You know, we just keep the bad news light.
Oh, you see, John, you're outside enjoying the sunshine.
It's not too hot, is it?
No, it's absolutely lovely.
It's what, 20 degrees out here.
It's perfect.
But on a serious note, folks,
By early next week, you can scrap 20 degrees.
It could well be 40 degrees.
I think there will be hundreds if not thousands of excess deaths early next week.
The charts that I can see in front of me are frightening.
So we all like nice weather, but this will not be nice weather.
This will be potentially lethal weather for a couple of days.
It'll be brief, but it'll be brutal.
So, John, I want us to be happy about the weather.
I don't know whether something's happened to meteorologists to make you all a little bit fatalistic and harbingers of doom, because all of the broadcast, particularly on the BBC, every time I've turned on anyone's talking about the weather, they're saying that there's going to be tons of fatalities.
But haven't we always had hot weather?
What was in the summer of 76?
That was as hot as this, wasn't it?
No.
And we are seeing more and more records, more and more frequently and more and more severely.
So yeah, some people always hop back to the summer of 76, which was a freak event, 40 odd years ago, over 40 years ago.
But heatwaves are becoming more extreme.
This is yet another one, which is coming down the tracks towards us.
140 degrees.
Well, does she keep it very light?
We like
our happy show
all the time now.
So there you go.
I love that.
I feel like that sometimes.
Well sure.
That's
good.
It really is.
That's even more extreme than the actual don't look up movie clip.
Right.
Really is.
Brittany Merlot, thank you for joining us.
We
appreciate the weather good or bad.
Yeah.
You got to tell them like it is.
Yeah.
You do.
You do.
That's
right.
Keep it right.
Keep it happy.
Our WMDX chief meteorologist.
Thank you, Brittany.
Yep.
Okay.
29 minutes.
I wish we could get Dick up there, but we can't we can't go to the calls right now.
Yeah, we were run out of time again.
Dick hang on.
We've been very busy.
We've been very busy today.
Give us a voice note.
There you
go.
Okay, that's a good idea.
All right, 29 minutes past the hour coming up.
We'll be talking with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin right around the corner.
Stay with us.
9.7 John according in the morning and dick is no longer
We're
gonna get him real quick, but we do have Paul coming up in a moment.
Do we have the voice note?
We do we
do have the
voice note.
Let's go to a
voice note
here.
All
right.
Okay.
I love these
Hey, this is Parker from mornings with that great.
Well, I just wanted to tell John real quick to shut his
Wow, okay
Hey, that's from right down the hall.
Wow.
Barkers,
okay.
I wonder who told him to say that.
I don't
know.
I think we've
got him.
I'm looking at you.
A theme going here.
Okay, nice.
736, sunshine today, highs in the upper 80s or low 90s.
Maybe some rain and thunderstorms later.
Heat advisory going on.
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And welcome, Paul.
How's your morning going?
Good morning.
Just fine.
I finished work all in.
You
gotta keep us updated on that.
It's good to see you're staying active.
It's great.
Don't run out of breath while we're on the air here.
All
right,
we want to, I want to bring up something.
Yeah, I mean, you were here during the protests.
You're familiar with all of the protests that took place here in Madison way back in the 60s.
And I want to ask you about the current line of protests that are out there.
It seems to me, and I think Gordy and I both have noticed this, that there seem to be
peaceful protesters out there.
The fact that there aren't a lot of protesters, huge crowds of protesters makes this easier to see for us.
And it seems like they're really not doing much, but they're just being pushed around by either the National Guard or police.
But they're really not doing anything.
And then what causes those riots that they talk about are really just flash bombs that people like to see flash on the newscast.
People are running from the police.
There have been a few isolated incidents.
But it's not a riot.
They're running away.
Am I crazy or is this just kind of more showmanship for the media and for the Trump administration to make it look like something is happening, that there's revolt, that there's unrest in the country?
What do you think, Paul?
Paul?
Paul?
Did we lose Paul?
I don't know.
He must have accidentally
got out.
Let me see.
Let me try and call him
back.
Give me a
minute.
All
right.
All right.
All right.
We're going to try to reconnect with Paul Soglin here, former Madison mayor, and see if we can get him back online.
Yeah.
Well, I hope I don't have to repeat that question.
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Were you able to find Paul?
We
got him.
We got
him back.
Are you sure?
Paul,
good morning.
Hey, you're back again.
I
hope you heard the question somehow.
Yes, I did.
And I was saying as we lost contact, let's go back chronologically.
And I'm going over a period of 60 years here.
Number one, the more
law enforcement that's brought into an event that's escalated by government authorities.
That's a victory for protesters.
A classic example is calling in the National Guard.
So let's keep that in mind.
Then let's take the very first Mifflin Street block party.
In the very first Mifflin Street block party,
With three days of rioting the most intense Not only the city, but the nation had seen in regards to that era student protests Come occurred on the next day the fourth day When the committee at 30 this was 30 people from around the city leaders from all walks of life political
religious and so on.
Shirley Abramson always part of it.
Basically walk the streets and we're a presence that in effect calmed both law enforcement and the protesters.
And that's what brought it to an end.
Wow.
Next is the, let's say that's 69.
So next is 73.
of the 73 block party, which is the first calm one.
Chief Cooper has a law enforcement presence, but this time it's very different.
Officers do not carry any right equipment.
Officers wear open shirts, no ties, they're very informal.
Um, no hats, no helmets.
If they want to, uh, some of them more baseball caps and everything was fine.
So now let's jump and we'll use another Madison example of what not to do and what would have been a viable alternative.
And that is the, uh, Saturday and Sunday of the George Floyd demonstrations.
So those demonstrations were on Saturday relatively in order.
No violence, no looting, no breaking of windows, nothing of that sort.
But then what is it about?
4 o'clock that afternoon, a small group got out of control and started trashing the place.
Now the question is you know, there's gonna be demonstrations on Sunday What are you gonna do?
Yeah Sunday morning Hundreds and hundreds of people showed up on State Street to clean up the mess Which was just a real clear signal that the vast majority of protesters and participants in the George Floyd Demonstrations wanted a peaceful response
and wanted to disavow the trashing that had taken place.
So what was done?
That night there were three bad decisions made.
The first bad decision was to announce that there was a curfew.
Just like calling up the National Guard, that's a victory.
in the sense that it's an escalation on the part of government authorities.
It is.
Yeah.
Secondly, it's announced that the National Guards showing up, which just confirms all that.
And then thirdly, the Madison Police Department shows up in full riot gear.
And as we know, things were just, well, it was one of the most out of control demonstrations in Madison's history.
Fighters were set squad cars were trashed and so on What should have been done And let's go back to the committee of 30 and by the way, this is the same thing that was done at the time of the protests involving the decisions Not to prosecute the officer involved in the death of Tony Robinson,
right
What should have been done is 30, 40, 50, 60 responsible community leaders, political, religious, from all walks of life, should have been assembled to again walk the streets and intersperse themselves among the crowds and the police.
Yes, there is a risk involved in that.
There is a risk because
People can get out of control, but it's been so effective in past years all over the country in regards to, in effect, when you assemble a large crowd, making sure the majority of the crowd's will is heard, which is to have a peaceful demonstration, perhaps disruptive, but nothing that gets out of control.
So there are techniques, um, there are strategies to, to deescalate these kinds of situations.
And, um, you know, I just don't know why people don't learn.
Yeah.
You know, it's something that occurred to me when they had the, uh, the curfew in LA, um, then it was an excuse for the police to clear the streets and get rid of people who may maybe just out and about.
clearing them off the sidewalk and not letting them get into their homes.
It seemed like that escalated things to a point where it shouldn't have gone.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
And the establishment of the curfew was a challenge which simply attracted more people.
Yeah.
So
so yeah, that's how I that's that was my impression I'm thinking am I looking at this from a different point of view You know in my age and I'm just thinking gosh I don't this doesn't look like the way it did in the 60s during the war protests It looks completely different.
There's something else going on and it didn't seem like the crowds and again I think it's because the crowds were so much smaller in LA They we could see what was going on
And then we could see how it escalated as well from all the videos because of, you know, social media.
It made it easier to understand what really was happening out there, you know, and the way Mo's being put on fire.
I mean, it's just another vehicle on fire for them.
But, you know, a lot of people said, well, they got 360 cameras in them and they could identify people out on the street and go after them eventually.
But I'm not quite sure why they burnt the taxis out there, but they did.
Well, I think.
You know, if you look at the analysis that we've just gone through, there seems to be some very logical courses of action to take, which are going to minimize violence.
So then the question is, why don't the authorities, whether it's elected officials or law enforcement, follow those courses?
And my judgment, this is what goes wrong.
It's a combination of things.
First, you may have government officials who want to aggravate the situation and don't mind the fact that there's an escalation.
And so they make these, shall we say, bad decisions simply to provoke
to provoke and create the reaction and have one and have
somebody to blame.
We run
out of Paul and Paul.
Unfortunately, we are a lot of
time.
But good analysis.
I wanted to get your input.
I appreciate it.
We'll finish this up next time.
All right.
Thank you.
You got it, Paul.
Thank you,
Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.
Coming up right after this A.B.A.
I'm sorry, Abby Abramovich from Doundren's Distilling.
Next.
92.7.
Please
don't
sing.
Please, I beg you, don't sing.
752, sunshine.
I must be hallucinating on this coffee this morning.
I know you are.
Sunshine, highs today in the upper 80s or low 90s, maybe some rain or thunderstorms later, but right now it's beautiful out there.
And we are welcoming Abby Abramovich.
Did I get that?
Yeah, Abramovich, yep.
Abramovich from Doundren's Distilling.
Right?
Yes.
I got it right now.
Yep.
We were pronouncing it a couple of other ways, but
we finally
got it right from you and
so.
Downdrons.
Downdrons.
So you're in Cottage Grove,
right?
Yep.
Yep.
How long have you had the business?
Is this a family business?
It's my husband and I. Uh-huh.
We're the owner operators and then a small team of employees.
We got open to the public August 31st, 2019.
So we only had about six months before we got shut down.
for COVID, the tasting room was shut down for 13 months.
But in that time, we did pivot it, made hand sanitizer, made like half a million gallons of hand sanitizer in a couple months, shipped it all over the country, donated a lot to first responders in the area.
then built our outdoor tasting, like our outdoor cocktail garden area during that time.
I understand.
This is quite the place.
So describe it.
Describe it to us.
Yeah.
So we have an indoor tasting room.
We are open year round.
The inside and outside areas are open year round.
We're family friendly and pet friendly.
So the indoor tasting room, I call it like it's my
Grandma's furniture.
It's all that's what I lovingly call it because it's an eclectic blend of a bunch of random secondhand furniture.
There's like a double rocking chair.
There's chair made out of an oil barrel.
There's couches very lounge furniture and then outside is an 11,000 square foot fenced cocktail garden.
So there's
grassy areas, flower beds, trees.
There's actually a playground and a stage that then we have music.
We do events year round that are a huge range of activities.
A dog
park?
Do you have a dog park?
Well, the dogs can be anywhere.
They can, okay.
Yes, yes, for sure.
That's very cool.
Yep.
And then we do all of our production there as well, all of
our...
Now, what is your production involved?
I mean, what do you produce?
We make a little bit of everything as driven by the Wisconsin alcohol laws.
Forever, we could only sell cocktails.
Like we can make cocktails and we sell cocktails on site, but so we could only...
make and, or we could only serve the alcohol that we make.
And so if we wanted a gin cocktail, we had to make gin.
If we want some flavored anything, we had to make that.
And so we actually make a huge variety of products.
It's like over 30 products.
We do brandies, gin, vodka's, a bunch of liqueurs, aquavit, grappa.
I don't know, flavored rums, all sorts of good stuff.
Yeah, so it's a lot of stuff, a lot of different products, but the major theme is that we really try and focus on highlighting local ingredients or things that we can get from local producers as much as possible.
So we work a lot with small farmers in the area.
So you mentioned you're pet friendly, indoors and outdoors.
I'm looking at your website here, downdrons.com, D-O-U-N-D-R-I-S, or D-R-I-S, sorry, downdrons.
But live music, art classes, art
classes,
drag, bingo, weekly trivia, pro wrestling,
pro wrestling.
It's an absolute blast.
They come and build a ring out in the tasting, out in the cocktail garden.
Um, and we have two more shows this summer.
This is the fourth year that we've been working with this group and it's an absolute blast.
Yeah.
A lot of fun.
Yes.
Yes.
And you're, like you mentioned before, you're open year round.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's tremendous.
Yep.
And what are your hours?
Abby,
sorry.
It's okay.
Um, our summer hours right now, we're open Tuesday, Wednesday from four to nine PM.
And then Thursday is four to 10, because we have our weekly trivia on Thursdays.
Friday is 3 p.m.
to 11 p.m.
We have a good special on old fashions from three to six.
And then on the weekends, we open up at 11 a.m.
Saturday is 11 to 11 and Sunday is 11 to eight.
Make anything like a Meyers room at all.
I
don't
know what that is.
It's
a
spiced rum.
So you said you made rums, right?
So we don't do a spiced rum.
We do a barrel-aged rum, and then we do a, our biggest selling product is a cherry-flavored rum.
Really?
Oh, that's cool.
So it's made with cherries from Door County, from a small family farm in Door County.
Well, that sounds really good.
Oh yeah, that's our number one selling product.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you
have other drinks as well.
You have ciders out there.
You have beers as well.
Yes, we do.
So all of our products are like distilled spirits, liquor.
We also, though, year round, we have a choice.
choice of a lot of other options.
We have beer, we have cider, seltzers, wine.
From
local breweries.
A lot of stuff is local.
Yep, as much as possible.
All right.
Well, Abby, thanks for coming in this morning.
Yeah, absolutely.
It
sounds like a great place.
I think we're coming out there sometime soon.
Yes.
We've got something we're working
on.
Yes, absolutely.
And we'll tell people more about that as we get a little closer to us.
But Abby, thank you for coming in.
And downdrons distilling in Cottage Grove.
What's the address?
300 Progress Drive.
It's just south of Cottage Grove Road and west of Main Street.
Yep.
Right.
Absolutely.
Thanks, Abby.
Yeah, thank you so much.
And that is going to do it for our show for today.
Stephanie Miller is coming up next.
Tomorrow's show, we will talk to Lisa Bernard, get the latest from the Dane County Humane Society and Amy Horak from David J. Frank.
And that's going to do it for us.
Yeah, that's
about it.
I'm exhausted.
Yes, I
am.
I
want to lie down on the couch over there.
I think so.
I'm going to huddle up in the fetal position in the corner here.
Now that we're at war again.
Have a great day so long.
