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John?
You know, I just kind of want to finish off on this.
The idea that, you know, these protesters are destroying property and they're out of control and they need to be rounded up.
by the National Guard, by the Marines, all of this.
This is just stochastic terrorism, as far as I'm concerned.
They're suggesting that there is an element in this country that needs to be reigned in, and that would be the woke liberal element that they're doing this to.
Ever since the LA protests, not riots, but protests,
We've been watching that very closely.
We talked to an announcer out there in LA and she gave us a blow-by-blow on that.
And it seems to me at this point now, my impression is that the riots, if there is any riot, is caused by the National Guard and the police pushing people around.
For absolutely no reason whatsoever.
I mean you've got 14 people standing in the street and all of a sudden you're being you're pushing them back like they're doing something like they're stopping traffic or something Yeah, it's not a riot.
It's not a riot and it becomes that when you have the flash bombs which normally are used indoors They're not very effective outdoors, but they look fantastic.
It's great showmanship
A lot of people see the reruns of this on the news and they get all antsy and angry and saying, oh, look at the riots, but it's not that at all.
I'm very skeptical now that there are such things as riots without.
Some what somebody causing that and I think it's a National Guard and the police that are causing these things by acting irrationally or pushing people back and around when they don't have to do that, right?
Yes.
Just a few people, every time we watch these things, there's just a few people involved.
And now, of course, we're watching the police, or ICE, rather, go out and arrest people and their citizens, and they're telling them that they're citizens, they're showing ID that they're citizens, and their ID is being stolen and taken by ICE.
This is not right.
Something is very wrong in this country.
And then we have a text where this is more of a distraction.
Look, what's going on in Iran.
So we don't look at what's going on in our own cities, the military occupations of our cities.
Francis, from Doug.
Trump is the master of distraction.
Do you hear anyone talking about LA now?
Except John Peterson right here.
But immigration, Trump controls both the horizontal and the vertical.
And that's right.
I mean, it's just one thing after another.
It really is.
It continues.
Yeah.
OK.
I know it's
Oh, do we have to?
Yeah, sadly, this is an AI generated clip.
Which is, by the way, I go through a lot of show material and nowadays it's very difficult to tell whether it's real or not real anymore.
I'm going through a lot of stuff and I swear that half the things I'm looking at or reading or seeing is just made up.
And I'm a little worried about this.
We're not going to have any show material anymore.
But anyway, this is an actual
clip from JD Vance.
Let's listen to 176.
This is 176.
Okay, Kristen.
I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East.
I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America's national security objectives.
So this is not going to be some long drawn out thing.
We've got in.
We've done the job of setting the
nuclear program back.
We're going to now work to permanently dismantle that nuclear program over the coming years.
And that is what the president has set out to do.
That's a limited action.
Yeah, and then of course.
Only they weren't.
And then Obama followed George W. He inherited the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, the war on terror, but didn't start any wars.
Not too dumb, not too dumb.
Or how about Biden?
Yeah, well how about Biden?
Get this, Megas are blaming Biden who didn't start any wars for not
preventing wars, okay?
So there are wars going on in other countries, but you know, that's because of Biden.
He wasn't strong.
He was weak.
So other countries felt like they could go to war with each other because Biden was weak.
God, please, please, please, please.
Trump beat Biden up over this because he said Biden was weak.
Trump promised he would be strong, peace through strength.
How's that going?
How's that piece through strength thing going?
Right.
Okay, Mark, we've got Mark on the line.
What do you got for us today, Mark?
Yeah, well, first off, it's just kind of horrific, you know, that waking up to see that news.
But on the whole xenophobic thing, for some reason, I was plugged in, I got the whole Supergirl series on DVD.
And
the whole
thing there was aliens from another planet, and all the xenophobic there in the language area, I'm calling D.
aliens roaches and uh... uh... kind of parallel language we see today and i mean it was just allegory i mean if there wasn't wasn't just that it was also you know that they'll touch on the trans issue as well there because one of the one of the heroes that came in that and that uh... genre there was uh... the hero dreamer was a trans woman and uh...
i imagine that trump would want to be banning that today i mean it is it is just uh... it's beyond me with the whole
That we see this parallel.
I mean there they're telling the story like in so many cases stories are trying to tell a truth and in this case that this whole xenophobic thing is just the The alien is the enemy whether it's you know an alien from another another country and Rick in that case was another planet But I mean it is the same kind of hatred we see prevailed or portrayed in these things and it just uh And what really gets me I don't want to hear one another word from CJ or any other magus complaining about
How we didn't bring it to the, uh, Afghans or allies, you know, to this country after we, you know, after Trump surrendered Afghanistan.
Yes.
Yes.
point.
Yeah.
Now they're going to deport that one Afghan who was an interpreter for
who served alongside our soldiers there.
And now they want to deport him.
that
To death, I mean.
To death,
Yeah, thanks, brother.
All right, Mark.
Thank you for that
I'm Director of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard said in March that quote, Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
Democratic Senator Mark Warner, the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, said he was briefed on Monday that quote, the intelligence hasn't changed.
So why launch this strike now?
Has the intelligence changed, Mr. Vice President?
Well, a couple of things about that, Kristen.
So what Tulsi said back in March is that Iran was producing highly enriched uranium that was only consistent with them wanting to build a nuclear weapon.
There's, of course, an open question about whether they were weeks away, whether they were months away,
they were way too close to nuclear weapon for the comfort of the President of the United States, which is why he took this action.
Weeks or months away.
something,
Again, this is a preemptive war.
This is a war of choice.
That Nyahu's war, he's dragging us into it.
And Trump is just being sucked into this.
He's not a smart man.
I mean, let's face it, and he's...
Fallen hook line and sinker into a new war and this is by the way, this is the guy who promised no wars
Peace through strength.
People recognize how strong Trump is now, so we're starting a war.
And
the
going
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It wants to start to lift Wednesday.
So maybe some relief potentially there Wednesday, but then it drops right back down on Thursday, continues to rain.
I mean, we could see some flooding risks by Wednesday and Thursday.
It's going to be gross.
It's an 80s.
we
This is wild stuff out of the UK, OK?
And I just want to bring this up.
Don't Look Up was a Netflix movie.
And it was where two astronomers were on a newscast warning the world that a comet was about to destroy Earth.
And they were on this news show and they were trying to tell everybody the earth is coming to an end folks We're just warning you we want to tell you the worth of worlds coming to an end and they didn't Care they wanted to keep things upbeat.
Yeah, they anchor people.
Yeah, they
little show So I'm gonna play two clips from that show don't look up will be the first clip the second clip was an actual
actual meteorologist on a UK newscast, trying to give the bad news.
Now, don't be confused by the Celsius Fahrenheit thing.
He was talking about Celsius, 20 degrees Celsius, 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
And then he says, but look out, we're gonna get 104 degree temperature, you know, at 40 degrees Celsius anyway.
So this is, and then the anchors chime in.
Let's listen to this.
Let's cut 178, listen.
Are we not being clear?
We're trying to tell you that the entire planet is about to be destroyed.
Okay.
Well, it's, you know, there's something we do around here.
You know, we just keep the bad news light.
Oh, you see, John, you're outside enjoying the sunshine.
It's not too hot, is it?
No, it's absolutely lovely.
It's what, 20 degrees out here, it's perfect.
But on a serious note, folks,
By early next week, you can scrap 20 degrees.
It could well be 40 degrees.
I think there will be hundreds if not thousands of excess deaths early next week.
The charts that I can see in front of me are frightening.
So we all like nice weather, but this will not be nice weather.
This will be potentially lethal weather for a couple of days.
It'll be brief, but it'll be brutal.
So, John, I want us to be happy about the weather.
I don't know whether something's happened to meteorologists to make you all a little bit fatalistic and harbinger of doom, because all of the broadcast, particularly on the BBC, every time I've turned on anyone's talking about the weather, they're saying that there's going to be tons of fatalities.
But haven't we always had hot weather?
What
in the summer of 76?
That was as hot as this, wasn't it?
No We are seeing more and more records more and more frequently and more and more severely So yeah, some people always hot back to the summer of 76 which was a freak event 40 odd years ago 40 years ago But heat waves are becoming more extreme.
This is yet another one which is coming down the tracks towards
We
gotta tell him like it is.
You do,
We're
OK, nice.
736, sunshine today, highs in the upper 80s or low 90s.
Maybe some rain and thunderstorms later.
Heat advisory going on.
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Good morning.
Just fine.
I finished work all in.
You
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It's great.
Don't run out of breath while we're on the air here.
All right, we want to, I want to bring up something.
Yeah, I mean, you were here during the protests, you're familiar with all of the protests that took place here in Madison way back in the 60s.
And I want to ask you about the current line of protests that are out there.
It seems to me, and I think Gordy and I both have noticed this, that there seem to be
peaceful protesters out there.
The fact that there aren't a lot of protesters, huge crowds of protesters makes this easier to see for us.
And it seems like they're really not doing much, but they're just being pushed around by either the National Guard or police.
but they're really not doing anything.
And then what causes those riots that they talk about are really just, you know, flash bombs that people like to see flash on the newscasts and they're
People are running from the police.
They're running from the National Guard.
A few isolated incidents.
But it's not a riot.
But they're not riots.
They're running away.
Yes.
Am I crazy or is this just kind of more showmanship for the media and for the Trump administration to make it look like something is happening, that there's revolt, that there's unrest in the country?
What do you think, Paul?
know.
He must have accidentally got out.
Let me see.
me
minute.
All right.
All right.
We're going to try to reconnect with Paul Soglin here, former Madison mayor, and see if we can get him back online.
Yeah.
Well, I hope I don't have to repeat that question.
OK.
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I
Yes, I did.
And I was saying as we lost contact, let's go back chronologically.
And I'm going over a period of 60 years here.
Number one, the more
law enforcement that's brought into an event that's escalated by government authorities.
That's a victory for protesters.
A classic example is calling in the National Guard.
So let's keep that in mind.
Then let's take the very first Mifflin Street Black Party.
In the very first Mifflin Street Black Party,
With three days of rioting the most intense Not only the city, but the nation had seen in regards to that era student protests Come occurred on the next day the fourth day When the committee at 30 this was 30 people from around the city leaders from all walks of life political
religious and so on.
Shirley Abramson was part of it.
Basically walk the streets and we're a presence that in effect calmed both law enforcement and the protesters.
And that's what brought it to an end.
Next is the, let's say that's 69.
So next is 73.
of the 73 block party, which is the first calm one.
Chief Cooper has a law enforcement presence, but this time it's very different.
Officers do not carry any riot equipment.
Officers wear open shirts, no ties.
They're very informal.
Um, no hats, no helmets.
If they want to, uh, some of them were baseball caps and everything was fine.
So now let's jump and we'll use another Madison example of what not to do and what would have been a viable alternative.
And that is the, uh, Saturday and Sunday of the George Floyd demonstrations.
So those demonstrations were on Saturday relatively in order.
No violence, no looting, no breaking of windows, nothing of that sort.
But then what is it about?
4 o'clock that afternoon, a small group got out of control and started trashing the place.
Now the question is, you know there's going to be demonstrations on Sunday.
What are you going to do?
Sunday morning, hundreds and hundreds of people showed up on State Street to clean up the mess, which was just a real clear signal that the vast majority of protesters and participants in the George Floyd demonstrations wanted a peaceful response.
And and and wanted to disavow the trashing that had taken place So What was done That night there were three bad decisions made The first bad decision was to announce that there was a curfew And just like calling up the National Guard, that's a victory
in the sense that it's an escalation on the part of government authorities.
yeah.
Secondly, it's announced that the National Guards showing up, which just confirms all that.
And then thirdly, the Madison Police Department shows up in full riot gear.
And as we know, things were just, well, it was one of the most out of control demonstrations in Madison's history.
Fires were set squad cars were trashed and so on What should have been done And let's go back to the committee of 30 and by the way, this is the same thing that was done At the time of the protests involving the decisions Not to prosecute the officer involved in the death of Tony Robinson,
What should have been done is 30, 40, 50, 60 responsible community leaders, political, religious, from all walks of life, should have been assembled to again walk the streets and intersperse themselves among the crowd and the police.
Yes, there is a risk involved in that.
There is a risk because
People can get out of control, but it's been so effective in past years all over the country in regards to, in effect, when you assemble a large crowd, making sure the majority of the crowd's will is heard, which is to have a peaceful demonstration, perhaps disruptive, but nothing that gets out of control.
So there are techniques, um, there are strategies to, to deescalate these kinds of situations.
And, um, you know, I just don't know why people don't learn.
You know, it's something that occurred to me when they had the, uh, the curfew in LA, um, then it was an excuse for the police to clear the streets and get rid of people who may maybe just out and about.
clearing them off the sidewalk and not letting them get into their homes.
It seemed like that escalated things to a point where it shouldn't have gone.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
And the establishment of the curfew was a challenge which simply attracted more people.
Yeah.
So so yeah, that's how I that's that was my impression I'm thinking am I looking at this from a different point of view You know in my age and really I'm just thinking gosh I don't this doesn't look like the way it did in the 60s during the war protests It looks completely different.
There's something else going on and it didn't seem like the crowds and again I think it's because the crowds were so much smaller in LA They we could see what was going on and then we could see how it escalated as well
from all the videos because of, you know, social media, it made it easier to understand what really was happening out there.
You know, and the way Mo's being put on fire, I mean, it's just another vehicle on fire for them.
But, you know, a lot of people said, well, they got 360 cameras in them and they could identify people out on the street and go after them eventually.
But I'm not quite sure why they burnt the taxis out there, but they did.
Well, I think.
You know, if you look at the analysis that we've just gone through, there seems to be some very logical courses of action to take, which are going to minimize violence.
So then the question is, is why don't the authorities, whether it's elected officials or law enforcement, follow those courses?
And my judgment, this is what goes wrong.
It's a combination of things.
First, you may have government officials who want to aggravate the situation and don't mind the fact that there's an escalation.
And so they make these, shall we say, bad decisions simply to provoke
to provoke and create the reaction.
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