ICE is Zip-Tying Children (Hour 1)

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ICE is Zip-Tying Children (Hour 1)

John & Gordy · Fri Jun 20, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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It's always left.

It's always left.

Now watch out because there's a moving truck.

They're doing some moving, some items out of the truck.

Now here comes the car.

Oh my gosh.

Oh, that

was

close.

That was

very close.

That was really close.

Boy, we got to

get

somebody down there to wait the traffic through.

If we just had some yellow flags.

Yeah.

that they could see a little more easily from our window up here.

Yes, we could slow the traffic

down.

We could certainly control the situation more so than we are.

Well, it's Friday morning.

A lot of people are out early and

moving

around and going somewhere.

There's a bus.

There's a bus.

A metro bus.

Whipping down the State Street.

60

miles an

hour.

I don't know what's gonna happen now.

Since we're doing the program, we can't wave people through.

You

guys are so easily entertained from what I've noticed starting here.

That's true, Dom.

Yeah, that happens.

Hey,

happy Friday.

Oh,

it's so nice to be Friday finally.

Yes.

I really want a four day work week.

You know, if we could just go to that, everybody goes to it at once.

And we get that three days to just unwind

because I

think the fourth day is that day where you're kind of preparing your body to go back to work.

So if you just have that middle day to just completely do everything you want or not want to do.

Yeah.

That

would be the way to go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

You know, we're just not looking ahead.

We're not trying to make life easier for people.

We're just trying to make it more difficult, certainly more frightening.

to just move around on the streets nowadays with ice ages other everywhere.

My God, this is like, this is an occupation.

I mentioned that a few times in some of these stories that we haven't gotten to yet, but I'm calling this an occupation.

We are an occupied country at this point and we're all prisoners in it and we're just lucky that we're not being shoved into a truck, I think.

I know it's.

It's a downer.

It is

frightening.

Yes.

But it's true.

We got a little clip from Chris Hayes.

He did a piece last night and we'll be playing that a little after 7 o'clock.

It's so amazing what's going on out there and how many people are being affected by this.

Well, Chris Hayes is great.

Been on MSNBC a long time.

Yeah.

He always finds different stories, you know, than everybody else.

I mean, he's, he's, he's out there.

He brings

it down to a human level.

He does.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's very good.

Um, we have, uh, Brittany Merleau, uh, in a little while, we'll tell us about the weekend weather that's coming up.

A little after seven.

And of course, Rocker will be with us in our seven 30 half hour.

with the Max Ink preview.

It's kind of cloudy out there this morning.

Yeah, we should be getting some rain this morning.

Yeah, we'll taper off and then rain again tonight.

And heat advisory already in place for the weekend.

It's going to really heat up.

It's going to get very uncomfortable and humid.

You know, I was looking to see, you know, what the weather is going to be like today.

Yeah.

Deciding what I was gonna wear right and it's always hot now.

It's just hot Right.

I really it's it doesn't take a lot of imagination to dress

But but

I looked ahead yeah next week next week is just solid rain all the way through the entire week No kidding.

Yeah.

Yeah extended forecast.

Well, that's what I'm saying.

Well today's the first day of summer That's right and

What do you have for the on the WMDX Samsung watch for sunrise

today?

Well, let's get to the sunrise temperature right now.

Yeah, I'm looking at 69 currently high of 84 today.

And then tonight will be a low of 76 yikes is feeling feeling really bad up

there.

Feeling like summertime.

It's feeling pretty sticky out there too.

I

don't know

what that means or anything.

Well, the dew point is a

factor in that.

So your humidity, what?

You're kind of leaning into well, how long a day is it going to be, right?

Because it's a summer, first day of summer.

It's the longest day of

the year.

Yes.

So, uh, sunset is at 840.

Wow.

840.

It stays pretty light out there today.

Okay.

I don't know if I could deal

with that.

I don't know how to wrap my head around that.

How do you prepare?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I hope we can get through it.

Yeah, we got a lot of new things.

Oh, Savannah told me Olson, by the way, will also be with us in our seven o'clock hour with some news headlines.

And, uh, let's see.

It is 11 minutes past the hour.

Let's check the, uh, well, we don't really need to check the National Day calendar.

It's there.

Uh,

in case

we need

it, but we don't really need it anymore.

Remove this as an element of our show, but let's take a look at the days that we aren't going to look

at.

Well, you know, and this really, I mean, this would be one to ignore the national seashell day.

What do you have

to do with that?

Yeah.

You don't get a lot of seashells here in the Midwest.

We don't have

very many.

It's not real popular anymore.

It's not a big deal.

All of the, what do they call them?

The tropical lounges that they used to have all over in the 60s and 70s.

They used to have Hawaiian themed

lounges.

Like tiki lounges and stuff.

Tiki lounges, that's the word right

there,

tiki

lounges.

And now we don't need the shells to decorate them.

So there's no shells in the Midwest anymore.

I guess not.

It took them all for the tiki,

tiki lounges.

No, who needs t-shirt?

By the way, these seashells, I remember that when I was a realtor, I went into a house that was being sold and the entire fireplace.

was nothing but seashells.

Somebody had taken a lot of time.

The whole

fireplace.

Wow, but that was

impressive.

Manful and everything.

It was just seashells.

Wow.

A little confusing, you know.

A little busy.

Let's just put it that

way.

Well, what else is it today?

A national hike with a geek day.

Who

wouldn't like to

hike with a geek?

I mean, it sounds like fun.

Where do they come up with these?

You

have to actually apply to get it into the National Day calendar.

There's a process that organizations, they send in their information.

You found out when you tried to accept

John

and

Gordy Day.

Yes, they rejected that right away.

So but national hike with the geek day, you know, I got I got the sticker I got the state park sticker the other day Oh, because occasionally I you know, I go up to Baraboo or you know, you're there

sure

the state park sticker You can get it in any state park.

You can get it for annual now You

from the day you buy

from the day you buy it.

They change that's a

whole year

by it for the whole year

So it's pretty cool.

You know what?

I got a long time ago.

I was out west traveling around with the kids.

Yeah, and they don't remember any of it.

Of course, but I did get a pass for the national parks and it's a permanent pass.

Is that right?

Yeah.

I don't have to pay.

to get in.

It's a senior thing.

Yeah, of course.

I thought, yeah, I'm taking advantage of this.

Yeah.

But anyway, so, you know, I mean, what is it about geeks that would make that a special day?

Well, that's

now I'm going to go back here and find out.

Let's see, going behind

because they don't have their electronics.

They can't do anything.

They can't really talk about anything because they're not online.

They probably know how to hike to

perfection.

Like they are experts at hiking.

You

think

so?

Yeah, I would say so, you know.

Yeah, actually, I think

you're on point there, Dom.

Wow.

It's going beyond desk exercise.

National hike with a geek day summons the techies, the geeks, the IT gurus, and gamers to push away from the keyboard and strike out across the inviting landscapes of nature.

So what do you get when you add

a

geek with the outdoors?

Well, you get to take a, let's see, national take a hike.

with a geek day.

Okay, they just told us that.

Maybe

it's not exactly true, but that's our story and we're

sticking to it.

They're kind

of circling.

Kind of getting a little snarky there with the national day calendar.

When you're dealing with a geek.

It's also national take your dog to work day.

See, you could have brought... Oh, I

could have brought power.

Yeah.

Power the Kraken.

We call her Kraken here in the show, but she's pretty uncontrollable anyway.

Border collies.

It's also a national ice cream soda day.

No, and that's about it for the national.

All

right, National American Eagle Day and National Vanilla Milkshake Day.

Help us.

This is why we gave up on the National Day Calendar.

Let's get to the history stuff, Tom.

Let's do it, let's

do it.

What do you got?

You got anything

interesting, anything fun, exciting?

I'm not

really, not really.

Okay, well, you want to skip it?

No, no, we'll go for it, we'll go for it.

The purchase of Alaska in 1867, that's on this day, and then the movie Jaws premiered in 1975 on this day as well.

I love that movie, by the way.

I haven't watched it in

so long,

but I really,

really like Jaws.

It's one of my

favorites.

Well, I think it took a lot of people out of the water.

It really didn't help.

Swimming much.

Well, go back to the purchase of Alaska.

So we bought that from Russia, right?

Isn't that where we got it from, I

think?

I think so.

I wonder if they want it back.

Let me fact

check that.

1867.

Seems like...

Did they even know how big Alaska was?

Gordon, you're right.

You're right on the money.

Right on the money.

Yeah.

Thank you.

We're 7.2

million.

That's it.

That is

it.

What a deal.

That sounds like a lakefront property.

Um, okay.

Alright.

Anything else?

We got some birthdays as well.

We got Brian Wilson, 1942.

Wow,

passed away just before his birthday.

Wow.

And then we got Lionel Richie.

No, Lionel

Richie.

Lionel Richie, sorry, excuse me.

It's

okay.

He was 1939.

And then

John Goodman, 1952.

Alright, yeah, looking real slim and trim now.

Did they end

that show though?

What was it after Rosie?

Yeah, I can't remember.

But he was in, you know, he was in Speed Racer.

He was.

Oh, yeah.

He was the father Speed Racer.

Okay.

Yeah.

And Monsters Inc.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Pretty talented guy.

But he's retired now.

He's

not I think they ended that I think they ended that show.

Yeah, but he's just not on that show.

He's He's just you know freelancing.

He's he's a character actor.

Is he look I'm not his agent I'm not here to get him jobs or defend them I'm just saying that he's been in a lot of a lot of movies and a lot of shows that stream

Mm-hmm makes he makes special guest appearances all the time.

Does he he's that kind of guy people love him.

He's huggable Okay, it was huggable.

He said now.

He's a skinny

rail What's the name of the damn show that was Rosie O'Donnell was on now?

You

just

I've got too much Roseanne Yeah, the Connors.

Okay, somebody yelling.

Oh, yeah Connors.

Oh, yeah

Connors

or

that did you ever watch

it show?

Wow

We

wouldn't

mess up for anything.

The Connors.

Honey, go sit down and watch the Connors tonight.

They ended that.

It's all over for that.

Did you watch it?

No.

Oh, OK.

Did

you?

No, never.

OK.

I didn't even know about it.

It's 19 minutes past the hour.

We're just getting started on this first day of summer.

Ah, summer.

It's here.

OK.

Take a deep breath here.

When we come back, we'll have more of John and Gordy in the morning for a Friday.

Yeah, stay with us.

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All right.

Okay.

And it's a 623, some clouds this morning, maybe some rain midday and into the afternoon and highs around 83 right now, 69 degrees.

Wow.

You know,

you remember the judge arrested in Milwaukee?

Yes.

Because she was trying to help an immigrant leave the courtroom without being taken by ICE.

Yeah.

Um, at least that's the accusation.

But at this point, now she's a victim of our legal system because she's trying to get back to her job, but, uh, the trial date keeps being moved further and further

away.

So

yeah, she can't get her trial date settled.

And, uh, and so she is unable to work.

Hmm until then but she's out on bail, right?

Yeah, yeah Yeah, that's good.

It's it's just a weird weird situation.

It is you know, they're there argument why are they strange argument?

Why are they kicking this down the road?

I don't know I obviously probably to try to keep her out of the courtroom completely out of the just you know because they can

Yeah, and they will do it if they can.

And it's in a blue state.

They're going to give us a hard time here.

I'm surprised Milwaukee hasn't been hit harder by ice agents or Wisconsin or Ag.

Yeah.

Or, you know, our Ag industry that we have here.

I'm surprised they're not going after farms.

Some of the farm

workers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, they may be and we just don't know about it.

We haven't heard about it yet.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's it's it's weird.

Yes

So what should we look at the the the 12?

Episodes from the 70s That everybody still remembers more so than anything else they ever saw in their lives.

Wait a

minute 12

episodes.

Well, okay TV shows essentially and that would be a rhoda martins laugh in was one of them

It was in the 60s.

The Jetsons, everybody remembers the Jetsons.

By the way, that only lasted, I think, a couple of seasons.

It was one of the evening animated shows for adults.

And it didn't last as long as the Flintstones, that's for sure.

But everybody remembers the imagery, you know, the cars, the flying cars, which we have been waiting for for the last, I don't know, 70 years or so.

Yeah, Rosie, the robot.

years we've been waiting for a flying car

yeah yeah so what brings this up the Jetsons and

yeah the Jetsons and then there's a six million dollar man I'm just looking at a quick list here the 12 shows and let me see here the Bionic Woman 1976 and Morgan Mindy 1978 I

think they have these are

These are big 12 shows from the 70s.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I don't think you have Windows 11, but anyway, there's a like a news thing that pops up.

Okay.

Hover over.

How about this Star Trek, the animated series?

I can't get into that show.

I've seen reruns of this and I just can't get into watching an animated series of Star Trek.

But these were all big in the 70s.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

These are huge in the 70s.

So, uh, then we can move on to all in the family in 1971.

Good times.

74 never watched.

Good time.

Mary Tyler Moore show at 70 in 1970, the Brady bunch, 69 and threes company threes company, boy.

I know, I know, I know.

Okay.

You know what?

I, you know, if you'll watch that show and I haven't watched it, but I'm assuming.

Dumb as shit.

The writing was so

horrible.

If you watch that show, you'd probably be embarrassed by what they thought was controversial at the time.

Well, right.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, a guy living with two women.

Two women.

So he's got to pretend he's gay because otherwise, oh boy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wonder if any of those,

you know, gay references hold up today.

Yeah.

Good question.

I don't know.

Haven't seen that show in years,

but

I guess it's on reruns.

Oh,

I know, I know.

Through infinity.

But, yeah, you can find those shows on, what is it?

I don't know.

Fubar or... Fubo?

Fubo.

Yeah, Fubo.

And... Fubar's a whole different thing.

It is, it really is.

But might as well have a streaming channel named that.

Or Tubi.

Tubi.

Yeah.

Where'd they come up with these names?

I would've watched Tubi.

Well, it's kind of funny because you, you know,

Like if you have a smart TV and you have remote, you can hit the mic and ask for show that you want to see.

Sure.

And it'll come up with all these choices and the channels that you can find that show on.

And that's how you find out about, you know, all these other streaming channels.

These are commercial, supported streaming channels.

And that's how you get introduced to them.

That's.

How they get you to subscribe to them, all you have to do is just sign your name.

You don't really have to do anything else.

You don't have to

pay anything.

Click on it.

You've got a subscription for life

and taking money out of your account.

And it saves your favorite list.

So that's the nice thing about those channels.

But I thought I'd hate them.

But the ads, there aren't that many ads.

No?

Yeah.

They're pretty short ads.

It is 629.

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Coming up, we'll have some news or agricultural report with Pam Yankee and more after this idiocracy.

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down.

until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fallen shelter right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

Wow, yes.

Nothing like it.

Absolutely nothing like it.

We have idiocracy

coming up in just a moment.

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All right.

Well, let's get to our first little piece of Idiocracy.

I want to play this again.

This is a repeat.

But why not?

You know, we're talking about our taco president, the guy who keeps going on everything he threatens to do.

Oh my God.

And by the way, we got a little compilation coming up later on.

It's the two week thing that he keeps talking about.

Oh, another two week

kick the can down the road or deciding a couple of

weeks.

Yup, exactly.

And I think that's, you know, that is basically what this guy is all about.

And my theory on that is that he's doing the two week thing to give that two weeks to solve the problem.

by somebody else.

That's how I'm looking at this.

He's going to give two weeks just to hope and pray that somebody else takes care of the problem for him so he doesn't have to do it.

He is the laziest, the dumbest person I've ever seen.

Well, we've

seen

him do this kind of

thing before, ramp it all up, get everybody, you know, everybody

running around with their

hair on fire, and then say, well, I'm gonna decide in a couple of weeks.

Yeah, couple of weeks.

Everybody calm down.

Yeah,

so I've got quite the list.

Yeah?

Yeah, I know there are a few out there, but I've added two with that.

Okay.

And so, I mean, it should be kind of interesting, but let's listen to the taco ad, the Mar-a-Lago taco.

Let's listen, okay?

Introducing the all-new Chicken Trump Taco.

Only at Mar-a-Lago Taco, where we serve bold flavor, not bold policy.

Stuffed with flip-flop chicken, guilt-free inflation sauce, and a sprinkle of broken promises.

Two weeks.

This taco's got less backbone than a trade war tweet.

They said I'd be tough on China.

I said how spicy is the taco?

The only thing this chicken taco dodges harder than tariffs is accountability.

The chicken drum taco cowardly never tasted so crispy.

Now with 0% integrity and 100% cluck.

There he goes.

100% cluck.

I like it.

Yeah.

But you have to have a

secret sauce for that.

So taco.

Trump always chickens out.

He does

all taco

things.

That's still taking off, you know, at the pro, at the protest rallies, a lot of people were

dressed up as tacos.

In some of the AI videos of the big parade that he had for his birthday, taco tanks.

So nice.

It's pretty good.

Anyway, let's let's go a little further back here.

When Trump appeared at Fort Bragg, you know, there's still some repercussions from that, you know, the fact that they screened a lot of the soldiers that appeared behind them to find the fans.

of mega right they wanted

mega

soldiers

they wanted

mega troopers behind them yeah and that that's a really weird thing to do is screen people for loyalty in the military i can't even wrap my head around that one yet but anyway then they put up a little stand to sell their product the grift but anyway this is a hearing uh where senator pat ryan is uh is grilling one of the people from fort bragg saying you know this

You gotta explain this.

So this is cut 137.

Let's

listen.

Talk about what happened in Fort Bragg two days ago.

There was guidance put out and this has been verified by multiple independent news outlets saying quote

These are to the soldiers of the 18th Airborne Corps and US Army.

If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration, then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out.

This is swapped out of the event with the president.

In addition, in an incredibly disturbing incident, there was a pop-up shop selling MAGA merchandise on post at Fort Bragg.

And to summarize this, there was a commander from Bragg who said on the record, quote, this has been a bad week for the Army, for anyone who cares about us being a neutral institution.

This was shameful.

If those are the facts, and I know the Army's investigating at least the MAGA pop-up shop, is that appropriate, General Kain?

Sir, I haven't seen any of these reports.

You know, I'm not familiar with them, but as I mentioned earlier, and in my confirmation hearing, you know, the nation demands a apolitical nonpartisan military.

Nonpartisan military.

Apparently didn't have a cup of coffee.

Wow.

Keep the voice really low.

Maybe nobody will hear.

Maybe the whole asleep.

I say it's low.

All right, well we heard it and no real answer there.

Tap

dancing.

Yeah a little tap dancing.

Now let's go to Ben Rhodes.

He's a former national security advisor and he was on with Chris Hayes and he was talking about the normalization

of having military presence on the streets of America.

So let's listen to that.

It's fundamental.

It's the last guardrail and all the other guardrails are gone, Chris.

We're much further along in terms of the consolidation of power in this country than I think people like to think.

And popular mobilization street protest, the will of the people being expressed like that is kind of the absolute backstop.

And I think that we're looking at what is going to be the fundamental fork in the road.

over the course of the next three and a half years.

And it's actually kind of scary that we got here this quick because there's different things that I worry about, Chris.

I worry about the military being normalized

for

these kind of personal purposes of Trump's.

The military being normalized, playing roles, you know, not just protecting ice, but maybe you're going out on ice raids and then maybe you're quashing down on the protest.

Maybe the military that is deployed doesn't go home.

They just maintain a presence in certain cities.

And then, because if you look at other countries, that's what happens when governments are so corrupt and so divorced from public opinion, but they want to cling to power, the military is the tool that they use.

All

the

things that we worry about, and you've talked about a lot on your show, Chris, in terms of national emergency authorities, national security authorities, they end with the military in the streets.

Now, on the other hand, the only way to really kind of break

the grip of an authoritarian regime is to essentially show that there's popular mobilization.

And I totally agree with Jamel.

It's both about what you're doing and illustrating the kind of illegitimacy of the use of force by the government.

But you're also spotlighting the things that people don't like that are happening in their communities, whether it's deportations or whether it's other things that people are going to protest.

So I think we're going to be in this dynamic, frankly, so long as Trump is president.

Yikes.

Okay, we're only three and a half years more It's gonna get worse right that's crazy stuff Yeah, and well, you know somewhere along the way and you've seen the recent polls Not a lot of people have a lot of confidence in what the Democrats are doing their approach to this

Yeah,

but I say to them and I want everybody to understand this There isn't a lot the Democrats can do at this point

their hands are kind of tight they're shut out yeah there's nothing and all they can do is advise people to go out and you know do whatever they can you know yeah protest

talk to

your congressperson whatever but

There's not a lot else we can do.

There's no backstop to this, folks.

It's just, we got to see this thing play out.

You can do letter writing campaigns, you can do a phone, you know, a phone your congressman, phone your senator.

Call your radio, local radio station,

their political talk shows

that you can call up.

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Oliver as okay now she is with the immigrant legal recourse and she was talking about what's happening on our nation's streets and it has to do with kids so let's listen to this very troubling cut cut 42 let's let's listen to that

if you care about children at all you have to see this because children being zip tied at immigration court isn't just happening it's actually being normalized

I'm Eliza Orland's career public defender for 15 years in Manhattan, and I want to show you what happened in Texas this past week.

In San Antonio, Texas, back on Thursday, May 29th, ICE agents detained three children ages nine to 12 and restrained them with zip ties.

And these aren't kids who are caught in a raid.

These aren't kids who have committed any crimes.

They are literally at immigration court where a judge had just dismissed their cases.

This dismissal should have meant that they were no longer subject to removal proceedings, and yet ICE took them anyhow.

What crime did those children commit?

None.

They were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing.

Their mother brought them to immigration court.

But under Trump's orders and under this administration, ICE is delivering terror.

Immigration lawyers on the ground have said they have not seen anything like this ever before in their careers.

And I say that because every time I post a video about immigration, people comment that the Obama administration and the Biden administration did just as bad or worse.

That is actually not true.

That's not accurate at all.

The Trump administration's immigration strategy is to remove 3,000 people per day, send agents into places that were formerly thought of as sanctuaries, places like schools, churches, courts, and zip tie children.

This is fear and cruelty by design.

Don't let anyone convince you this is normal.

Don't let them hide behind policy.

This is violence against children.

Please don't turn away.

Because if we don't speak out, it will just get worse.

Of course, you know, they're protecting the children, so I guess they're always protecting

the children.

Protecting the children.

Remember the first Trump administration, they put kids in cages, right?

Remember those?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What

happened to them?

We don't know.

We don't know.

A lot of them were

away.

Kind

of lost,

separated

from their family.

Into

the country.

They didn't keep track of them.

They didn't take their names.

No, didn't have any information about them or where they ended up.

Never took the time.

Because they're not detailed people and they're not really concerned with human life.

Yeah,

especially kids.

You know, they're

just

kids.

Yeah, right.

Well, they shouldn't have come here in the first place, Dan.

Oh, well, yeah.

Let's draw the line of the sand.

Wasn't their fault.

We started showing him a little mercy, though.

Take advantage of that,

huh?

You know, they're

zip

tying them.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's where we're at.

Well, you know, those kids are really dangerous.

If you don't zip time, what, what, what next, right?

Yeah.

They're kicking in the leg or something.

Oh boy.

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Just

a moment we're going to talk about Robin Voss you know taking it out on the UW system again in the new budget but in just a few moments I know it's seeing a lot of tension there but we're going to talk about DI involved in that situation so we'll get to that but first Joe is on the line let's go to Joe hey

Good morning.

What are you got for us today?

Good morning, Joe.

I await your comments on Robin Bloss.

I know that will be interesting in terms of his idiocy.

But I

wanted to comment on the terror this woman was describing in terms of immigrants and the zip tying of young children.

And I think we're getting into this weird territory.

I don't know if you saw mention of this.

situation where ice was, if they were ice, was turned away from the Dodgers stadium.

We've got this weird stuff.

I saw this picture of supposedly ice and they're wearing jeans, they're wearing sneakers, they're wearing sweatshirts, and then they have masks,

and then

they say they're ice.

We have this pretend cop in Minnesota that arrives at the, you know, murders this

state state senator and her husband you know we it's a plot point in movies where somebody pretends to be a government worker or a police officer and abducts a woman and then takes her away and is this person real or not well i saw his shoes and the shoes didn't match the rest of the outfit we aren't even in a place where the shoes match the outfit there's no effort to even say there's an outfit

How are we not in a circumstance where you're standing in a grocery store and guys come in with guns and with masks, no ID, no sign, and they say they're ICE.

Who do you know?

How do you know who they are?

And they haul somebody away.

What's our response in that circumstance besides simply taking out our phone

and tipping it?

That's a really good point because I've been thinking about the same thing.

And I'm thinking that this is a point where the government

realize that they do have a problem and that this could escalate, that they should take care of the problem by putting uniforms on these people, uniforms you can't get on the internet someplace at Etsy or something.

So yeah, you're right.

You know, this is something the government needs to solve because it's going to reel out of control.

I've got a bit from Chris Hayes coming up next hour on this whole situation.

Mapping it out just as you had described it.

So we'll we'll be getting to that.

All right.

Thanks

guys.

All right Joe.

All right, Joe.

Thank you.

Yeah, what if you know ice agents are getting somebody and the local police are standing nearby they don't

You know,

they have no idea who these guys are they could be a kidnapping in progress You just don't know I was I

was impressed as well And I know the same thing Joe did that you know, they had just regular jeans and tennis shoes

What in the hell is going on?

All right, let's get to Robin Voss here before we lose time here.

But

Robin Voss, he wants to cut money from the UW.

Asked at a Capitol News conference Wednesday whether the caucus that he's unsupported the $87 million cut to the UW, Voss answered directly saying it does.

And this is what he said.

It's not about cutting money.

What it about is getting some kind of reforms to the broken process that we currently have.

In other words, he doesn't like the UW system.

Voss said there was still too much political correctness on campus and not enough respect for political diversity.

Wait a minute, isn't diversity part of DEI?

I think it is.

So he wants diversity on campus while they oppose DEI and insist that DEI be removed from the UW system.

Now he also said, we want to ensure that whatever happens on campus, it's a free exchange of ideas.

That's the basic.

Bases for what the university should be doing.

That's DEI from Megas Not for anybody else.

Yeah, right political

diversity.

That's right.

Why don't we play this cut again?

This is Linda McMahon cut 84.

Okay, let's play cut 84 Believe I have that.

Yeah

Give me a second sark.

All right.

Here we go

Are you not telling the administration how to run their admissions process?

Do you not think that by the only admission of Harvard that only 3% of their faculty were conservatives?

Do you think that's a diversity of viewpoint on campus because you can't possibly believe that?

And I do think that that's one of the things at Harvard and Columbia and other universities

to take a

serious look at is what is that

balance?

trying to figure out where these intersect.

On one hand, you're saying that they should be focused on merit-based admissions and that they should not engage in diversity, equity, inclusion practices.

But then at the same time, you're saying that they need to admit more conservative students.

Well, the case of the students versus Harvard.

I mean, my goodness, the Supreme Court clearly said that we have to look at

Harvard's admission process because they are not doing it on merit.

And so that was very clear and that is the standard that we have to look at.

And so this is where McMahon and the Department of Education and the White House are justifying cutting off these funds and the $2 billion in grants and cutting and ending foreign visa service opportunities for students to study at Harvard.

Part of their justification is the Title VI civil rights violations that they claim through DEI programs and admissions hirings that Harvard, they say, is engaged in at the same time.

She is making the case that it is incumbent upon Harvard to also admit more.

conservative students and there you have her response in terms of seemingly contradictory statements.

Political diversity.

They're

insisting on it while they get rid of DEI.

My head is exploding just from all of this.

And now we have that UW campus are withholding $87 million in the budget.

Well, we'll

take a little breather here.

News is coming up and then we'll talk to Savannah Tomy Olson.

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