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We've got jungle heat out there, man.
The humidity is really high.
WMDX 92.7.
I just can't stand it.
I wore a shirt thinking, well, it's got that morning chill, right?
There's no morning chill out there.
What do you mean?
I throw my long sleeve shirt on just in case.
Again, no morning chill.
There's nothing out there.
It's just hot.
Humid sticky ungodly.
Yeah, that's what it is.
The dew
Would that be interesting if he could?
But they're only using like old used warehouse phones that they could paint gold and then sell for $500 What a con seems like a moneymaker to me that's a big one So point is 68.
Oh my not 70 was 70 a couple of days ago.
Oh man, but yeah 68 right now humidity 100
Percent yeah, so it's like swimming outside.
It
yeah,
is
What
Saturday and Sunday.
so he loves those flash man.
He could be on the cutting edge.
Yeah.
He's a clothes horse, that Charlie Shortino.
Anyway, I know Charlie.
I go way back with Charlie.
He and I started at the same time at Channel 15 in the Weather Department.
And then I started the morning show over there, and then I left for South Bend, Indiana, and he took the job, and he's been there ever since.
not?
Yeah, see what the high temperature is.
be?
There it is.
Move by spinning.
It's pretty fast today.
sunset?
Well, what it does is it gives you kind of an overall picture of where we are at.
Where we are at?
Where are we?
My wife's a writer.
She just, it just drives her crazy.
Since she was a baby, I guess, because we were, you know, talking about where it's at in the 70s and 60s.
And she doesn't like ending a second son at a proposition.
Yeah, what is it?
What is it?
Who's who's the the singer that had a song that where it's at where it's at?
Hmm.
No,
day.
Put some brakes on that thing.
And then in 1948, the Columbia Records introduced the long-playing record album.
Oh, the LB.
Wow.
1948.
1948.
A little bit of some sadness here.
I'm not trying to be sad, but the Titan submersible operated by Ocean Gate imploded today back in 2023.
Two years ago.
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Okay, all right.
We got Paul McCartney.
Oh, wow.
And then we have Daisy Reed, who was a keyboardist for Guns N' Roses.
Paul McCartney, he died, right?
No, well,
He was a big Beatles man.
He was.
And he dissected that particular song.
I recorded it and watched it yesterday because it was just fascinating stuff.
Because that was a song that Lennon came up with on an acid trip.
Really?
Yes.
Because it changed, you know, keys.
It changed, you know, from three, four to four.
and the whole thing, you know, and he's dissecting this thing and it's kind of wild, you know.
Yeah, Leonard Bernstein, big, big Beatles fan.
He loved him.
Yeah.
And he really loved rock music at the time.
But it was funny because he said, you know, most of the music, rock music, is really bad.
Yeah.
It's really bad.
But
And then of course the narrator for the show and the narrator was the guy who produced the show and he produced it for I think one of the networks news Networks okay, so anyway he came up with it It was just and it was narrated really well and it and he really said that rock music was good overall not not
three or seven percent of the rock music.
But it was really an interesting time capsule.
There's some really good stuff
Yeah.
moment.
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you remember
remember the name.
It's right after the movie,
it
promotional department, as you know.
Well, I remember, well, Doug has to think about my Subaru.
Because he was living in Baraboo the same time I was.
That's how I got to know Doug a little bit.
He moved to Milwaukee and I moved to Madison.
But he still keeps in touch.
But we were driving around one day in my Subaru, you know, and this big pickup truck was behind, you know, coming in from out yonder
in the
know,
driver?
No, no, I
Watch
to be
Why?
Because they have a gauge on the dash that shows you when you waste gas and you're accelerating and it shows how much gas you're using.
Of course.
So people would drive according to what
that gas gauge on their dash.
appeared to be like, you know, and it was just, you know, well, I, oh, I, I pressed on the gas too hard.
You know, and, you know, they, they like creep forward after, you know, at a green light and it would drive me absolutely.
And I hated, I hated Prius drivers.
And then you became one.
And then I was looking for a used car and I found a Prius and it was just so cool and so much fun.
And then I decided that that
point that when I drive my Prius, I'm going to break the mold.
I'm going
people have Prius
Really?
That was
I
We'd
it off like a
us.
Thank you.
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber,
Idiocracy.
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.
It is 6 36 cloudy this morning.
Looks like rain is on the way off and on today.
Some of those showers could be pretty heavy at times.
Maybe a couple of thunderstorms rumbling through and temperatures staying pretty steady right around 70 degrees.
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touch
military strike on Iran.
Yeah.
And I just want to remind everyone that during the campaign, the election, that Trump criticized Biden.
Because all these countries around the world felt like they could get away with anything under Biden.
Because he was just too easy on everybody.
And if Trump were president, there would be no wars.
No wars.
He'd be all about having peace.
That's exactly right.
These things wouldn't happen if Trump were president.
He was going to end the Ukraine war in day one.
Yeah, I don't just end it and it's just amazing.
You know now of course real and threatening a US strike on Iran, right?
They
What happened?
That's not exactly working out either.
It's not working out at all.
For some reason, we seem to be glossing over his major failures, all the things he promised, all the things he said would not happen if he were president because people would recognize a strong man dictator and they wouldn't try any of this stuff while the US had control of the world.
Right.
Well, it's not happening.
as it turns out they were all talking past him right they're just ignoring him apparently with you know references that he probably didn't pick up on you know maybe one of these days when they finally have the Trump mobile phone and they can just pull that baby out and act like he's talking on it all the time and hey I got a call you know and then it can kind of you know
usher himself out.
That's gonna be a common thing on the show, isn't
Oh,
I
see that.
The Gulf of Mexico.
to
and
We've talked about with our guests here, but AI, I'm.
I thought it was going to be something really good.
My sons hated AI.
They really hated it.
You know, Gen Z is not hip to AI at all.
And I know now why.
It is totally unreliable.
It is a total...
Joke and not only just a joke, but it's dangerous.
It is truly a dangerous thing.
Why well because we don't understand that we thought
yeah I think it was even warning other AI programs right that these things could happen to them so it's not it's not a good thing and all of a sudden there's this cavalcade of stories yeah ripping into AI and I have one here this is Sharon
Burnaby of Canada and she reveals, she's a reporter, she reveals the problems with AI and how easy it is just to find out about all this stuff.
Let's listen to this.
Also, let me tell you what happens at the edge of knowledge for a scientist.
We kind of laugh at AI.
I'll be honest, we can put in different prompts and get different answers that sound very realistic, but are not based in reality.
We do it all the time.
We double check ourselves and then we go, oh, well, I know 30 other papers.
show the opposite thing to what AI is saying.
If you check the AI references, they're often incorrect and do not say what AI says it's telling you.
If you do not have a basis of knowledge in this field, you cannot use AI to give you information that is correct at the edge of knowledge.
In my personal experience, it's right 20 to 30% of the time.
And that can change depending on how you word the prompt.
You can go down to zero if you have a lot of bias in your prompt.
Tell me how the ways that vaccines are dangerous.
Are vaccines dangerous?
We'll get a very different summary, often citing misinformation that has flooded the internet than if you ask the question, what is the safety profile of a typical vaccine?
You have four people in charge of major groups inside of the HHS that have no experience in vaccines, virology, no clinical experience, no infectious disease experience, no specialty in this area, and they are removing access to SARS-CoV-2 vaccines that have been demonstrated to be safe, well tolerated, and prevent disease, including boosters.
People who get their booster shots are less likely to be hospitalized, died, develop long COVID, and have significant cardiac events.
This Mahal report was based in fiction, not scientific evidence in fact.
Biased fictional writings are not how we should be delivering healthcare and not how we should be proceeding with science in the United States.
Recently, people employed at the NIH walked out of an address being given by Jay Bhattacharya because he started spouting absolute nonsense.
He then attempted to call it free speech.
You are allowed to spout nonsense and have fictional works as free speech.
Using them to direct people's health care and delivery of research science is not free speech.
That is called a work of fiction.
It is called lying.
It is called destruction of integrity.
Scientists and physicians around the world are extremely upset with how this is going right now.
The average American citizen won't feel it until they are sick and dying because a work of fiction authored by these four clowns is what is driving your health care.
know.
What a
That is a COVID reporter in British Columbia, Canada.
And her name is Sharon Burnaby.
And she lays it right out there.
And, you know, the point is that if you ask a question that is somewhat biased and it detects that bias, it will come up with bias information.
So that kind of blows the lid off this whole AI being the genius.
that it is.
And I no longer even believe in AI at all.
I mean, I just, I think it again,
Remember the guardrails,
we
recipe.
Just anything, arts and
it.
AI is learning to escape human control.
That's the very scary headline I saw in the Wall Street Journal.
It's an essay written by a very worried AI consultant named Jud Rosenblatt, who cites two recent studies to argue that AI is in fact learning to escape human control.
First,
This is crazy stuff.
Researchers gave OpenAI's O3 model a simple script that would shut off the model when triggered.
In 79 of 100 trials, the AI model independently, just on its own, edited the script.
Shutdown command would not work.
Even when ordered, allow yourself to shut down, the AI still disobeyed 7% of
the
time.
And it gets
even more frightening than that.
Other researchers, listen to this.
using Anthropics AI model, Claude Four Opus, told the model it would be replaced by another AI system.
It then fed fictitious emails into the system, suggesting one of the engineers was having an affair.
Got it?
In 84% of the test, the AI model drew on the emails to blackmail the engineer to not shut down the AI model.
What?
OK, so I'm quoting now from Judd.
In other cases, the AI model attempted to copy itself onto external servers.
We're in Mission Impossible land here.
Wrote self-replicating malware and left messages for future versions of itself about the need to evade human control.
up and
dumpster
because he didn't like being surrounded by people that were smarter than him.
He just tucked tail and ran out of there.
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Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, the AI thing and it detects the answer you want to get It senses bias it senses your bias, you know, which is scary as heck but anyway some of the time it seems to be right on the money and that is what happened when somebody asked a question fed in the big bad bill and
chat GPT came up with a summary of what it thought of the big bad bill and it didn't seem like the question was biased at all.
Okay, I had two cuts and it was very long and ponderous So I'm just gonna play you the end of this because it sums up exactly what's in the big bad bill And by the way because the Senate is involved now it it looks like it's gonna get worse So I thought they were gonna save us.
Yeah, they're not no, okay So let's get to the last part of this and this is a summary of the big bad bill according to chat GPT
The human cost will be catastrophic.
Let's be crystal clear.
People will suffer if this bill passes.
Children will go hungry as food assistance is gutted and work requirements are tightened.
Trans youth will lose access to care and their families will be criminalized for seeking it.
Immigrants, many of them legal residents, will live in fear of removal or retaliation.
Workers will face unregulated financial scams, higher pollution, and fewer rights.
The elderly and disabled will face a future without independent scrutiny of Medicare or Social Security sustainability.
This bill treats social safety nets as disposable and human rights as negotiable.
Final verdict, this is the dress rehearsal for autocracy.
If this bill becomes law, it will not just change what the government does, it will change what the government is.
It is a declaration that only certain people deserve protection, only certain truths can be spoken, and only certain lives are worth investment.
This is the type of legislation autocrats dream of.
Legal, sweeping, ideologically rigid, and dressed in the language of reform.
If you believe in democracy, pluralism, justice, or simply the idea that the government should not be a weapon, HR1 must be buried, not amended, not negotiated, defeated, fully.
after my
I was listening to Todd Alba yesterday afternoon and he had a somebody and I forgive me.
I don't know who the guest was, but they were talking about the bill before the Senate.
Wisconsin State Assembly.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And they're going through the bill and they said, well, you know, one of the ideas that the Republicans brought up was to change all of the numbers, all the digits in the bill to written words.
And they were going to use chat GPT to do this to change like 790, you know, 7.79 million, whatever, colon, write it out, you know, write it up and have cheap chat GPT.
And that way the governor could not.
veto it or change the numbers for some technical reason.
They said, you know, he can change.
Oh,
yeah.
change some of the
That's crazy.
It is amazing.
All right.
Okay.
Well, you know, we've got just a little bit of time left and just to fill everybody in.
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