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Mark.
Yeah, they want to get rid of FDICs that ensures our deposits at banks.
They want to get rid of the NCUA.
insurers are deposits at credit unions and for the whole thing of not taking care of one another the whole thing of getting rid of USAID I just can't help to think about in our own constitution says promoting the general welfare and turning to Dickens once again that for all these businessmen that what did Marley's ghost say when he came business cried the ghost
bringing his hands again mankind was my business the common welfare was my business charity mercy for parents in benevolence were all my business the dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business i mean that
I'm just gonna huddle in the corner
I remember, you know, that scene, you know, watching the people outside that window huddling around the child at the feet of the mother trying to keep the kids warm.
I mean, it just... I know it.
It's hard to even imagine that these people have a clear enough conscious to come along living, collecting their billions.
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I'm just, you know, stepping out.
That's kind of guy I am.
I mentioned Trump is coming right out now and saying that he's attacking the blue cities.
He's out there, he's going to have a presence in these blue cities.
I
want you to
way.
I don't know what you're saying
I want them to focus on the cities because the cities are where you really have what's called Sanctuary cities and that's where the people are I look at New York.
I look at Chicago
I mean, you got a really bad governor in Chicago and a bad mayor.
But the governor is probably the worst in the country, Pritzker.
But I look at how that city has been overrun by criminals.
And, you know, New York and LA, look at LA.
LA, those people weren't from LA.
They weren't from California, most of those people.
using them to vote and that was like a punchline I didn't expect to get you know, I know that he's going after the blue cities because of
The fear that he has of these people who are let out of prisons in other countries and and brought into this country by Joe Biden They're eating the dogs.
They're eating the cats the whole thing and it's just so ridiculous and so
You know, it just blows your mind.
It's so dumb.
It sounds so stupid.
And yet he is doing this.
He has this paranoia.
And I don't know why we're not calling him out on that.
It's like he's really afraid.
He's looking over his shoulder all the time.
There's going to be an immigrant there, someone who'll kill you.
Well, anyway.
all
right so anyway the democracy docket you might want to visit that site democracy docket okay they wrote President Trump's order
ICE to target major U.S.
cities, the core of the Democratic Power Center, they say, to punish his political opponents, citing election conspiracy theories that Democrats use undocumented immigrants to expand their voter base.
It is so preposterous, so unbelievable, and no one has found these voters.
They're not out there.
And no matter how much they claim they found them, they're out there.
We haven't seen any prosecutions, any place in regards to any of this.
So it's just all made up.
Anyway,
that's
Yes.
Is this on the market already?
Their whole company is.
Yeah, well, Eric Trump is out there promoting this thing.
It's a $500 gold colored phone.
Now, if we all remember, remember the Trump White House tour that he was giving to some reporter?
Yeah.
And he was pointing out the gold.
Oh, all the gold they put in.
Artifacts in the office because they're real gold.
And he said,
You know they can't be painted gold because there's not a paint that looks just like gold
So so in order to replace the bad-looking cut gold colored paints, right?
They brought in real gold Because most people can afford to do bad to
So he looked this whole thing up and he found out it's a Chinese company making these phones.
And it's called Red Wingtec.
It's called Wingtec and they make generic phones for all these companies that want to have their own particular phone line.
And he also said that design looks like an older design and it was.
It's like last year's model.
And so it's not a high-tech phone at all.
And we're assuming at this point now, I'm assuming that they have a warehouse full of these old phones.
Really?
And
And he's got a base of suckers that buy any of this stuff that's got a Trump name on it.
So they're going to put out these $500 gold-colored phones dubbed the T1.
Trump want later this year as part of the services launch, it's going to be like $47 a month.
Okay.
It's 47.
dollars and forty five cents playing off of the you know,
oh 40 was
a
this morning You've got an announcement on a new phone.
Tell me about that and and what you're looking to quote-unquote correct here
Well, you know what Maria more and more we're using technology as a company right to correct the problems Obviously truth social was to correct freedom of speech, right?
I mean he lost
his
throughout the political process
Obviously, crypto, and we've got the biggest projects in crypto, was to correct another problem, which is the fact that they were debanking all conservatives.
I was the most canceled person, probably, in the history of the country.
And now we're doing Trump mobile.
And Trump mobile is going to revolutionize cell phones, mobile calling.
We're going to
do it better.
We're going
to
do it safer.
We're going to have more
functionality, more features.
And the coolest thing about all these ventures is
we're
doing it right here in the United States.
You're not calling up.
call centers in Bangladesh, you're not, you know, you're doing it right out of St.
Louis, Missouri, and you're gonna have phones that are made right here in the United States of America, and they're gonna have, it's gonna be cheaper, 47 bucks a month, you're gonna have more international dialing for free, hundreds of countries, international dialing for free.
It is the biggest bang for the buck, and we're really excited to get into the space.
I mean, when you take kind of technology, obviously, real estate's always been our bread and butter, but when you take the technology world between the social platforms, you know, the actual
devices, which is really what Trump mobile is, you know, and then kind of the true retail banking, C-fi, DeFi, you know, worlds of cryptocurrency, which is no question
world is going.
I really believe we're going to have one of the great kind of tech platforms as part of the Trump organization of any company in the world.
And I couldn't be more proud of Trump
But they're
Another person writes pay mega influencers to promote it subscribe knit with mega buyers to to the phone service plan and sell the subscribers to a larger carrier Get rich and laugh at the gullible morons who abide into the Trump mobile service.
This is crazy stuff But now is it a quality product?
You're gonna find out that the Trump watch.
Yeah was an equality product
And we'll have that in
Gordy.
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Even though they'll probably get big heads and won't want some farm boy from the middle of nowhere on their show anymore.
So did you tell them?
Hey,
Let's
outside.
about as good outside as you guys and your show.
Yeah,
there you go.
You
agree?
So you're saying it's miserable?
What?
Absolutely.
I'm saying it's beautiful.
It is beautiful.
It's wonderful.
Oh,
yeah.
I would rather it be south.
It looks gorgeous out there, you guys.
shining.
Oh,
starting to see some sunshine,
we had a little bit of crazy storms last night.
We had to worry about rolling in from Minnesota.
Really?
So we got a lot of rain.
It's damp.
It's soggy out there.
So it's nice to see some sunshine starting to peak out.
But you guys avoided a lot of that yesterday.
So
you know, it just doesn't work
you got a
have
those?
Oh, those
those.
It's fun, especially when you live up in the woods and you live off of a decent street, enough people travel on it and you're just like, yes,
gonna see it.
indeed.
So probably highs around 86 degrees
sticky out there.
You've got a stalled front in the area.
So chances for showers and storms probably start around five to about seven or so.
All right.
And
then they kind of clear out of here around eight.
So it's not going to be an all nighter.
It's not going to be a crazy thing.
In terms of severe weather, you're in a marginal risk if they turn severe, which I don't think that they are.
But if they do, maybe some high winds and some smaller hail.
Otherwise, tomorrow is
the
soaker.
That's when our temperatures fall to the mid 70s.
It's going to be overcast, dreary, wet, a good one to two inches of rain possible.
some heavy storms expected in there and it's going to be raining all day.
So John, your mulch is going to be just
it.
Absolutely.
All
Okay, let's go to the watch.
And I've been trying to get to this for three or four weeks now.
This is from a daily show.
The Trump watch.
The Trump watch.
Yeah, they had a misspelling on the watch.
And this is quite an expensive item here.
Quite the deal.
So do you have that cut ready to go?
49.
Yes.
Let's go.
All right.
if you bought any Trump merchandise.
I don't want to surprise you, but it might be a piece of
So it should say Trump should say Trump instead
it says rump
What a shocking story, I mean truly I did not expect them to be able to read and You might be thinking what kind of respectable?
Horological craftsmen of luxury timepieces
would
allow this to happen
Well, it turns out watches might just be their side business.
New eye-popping details about Donald Trump's watches, and there's a link to Viagra Honey.
This is a product that is born out of a licensing agreement with a company called The Best Watches on Earth LLC.
There is another company at this business registered at the same address called The Best Honey on Earth.
They sell male enhancement honey, which
is
exactly what it sounds like.
like it is a product
that
helps men perform in the bedroom.
Wait, everyone shut up.
Stop
laughing.
That's bull.
Honey.
This changes everything.
I just hope that those watches have like a little warning label on them like you do for people with not allergies like warning.
This watch was manufactured in a plant that also processes honey.
There
morning.
high
there.
Mercy practice,
Yeah,
like a lot goes into this your website and we direct people over there to cannabis dnp.com simple as that and check it out.
It's it it does a lot to inform the individual about what you're into and how you have made this this product that that you have.
And that's what we want to kind of get into.
You know, there's a lot of
with a lot of different points of view on what is available out there now.
And there are a lot of shops that are dotting the State Street and all the other avenues here in the city.
So what is it that we're missing?
A lot of people have kind of been brought up, you know, Gordy and I, of course.
came from a generation of just, you know, buds and weed.
The
But, you know, things have changed so dramatically now because this is a, you know, legal hemp.
This is where a lot of this comes from is hemp and a lot of these stores have popped up.
You got to fill us in and, you know, what exactly, you know, introducing people to this industry because it's still, there's still a lot of mystery surrounding it.
We're seeing the shops.
but we're not real familiar with what to expect when we go into these shops.
Sure, sure.
Or go to your website and your product.
Sure, sure.
So yeah, there's a lot of information out there.
There's a lot of shops.
There's a ton of products.
As a matter of fact, I just got back from Chicago at the Champs trade show where I got to see over like 2,000 vendors selling multiple different products.
So it's an interesting industry.
I like to...
air on the side of caution so I stick more with the medicinal components and not so much the bright and shiny colorful products that are out there on the market right now.
So I like to stick with the low-dose.
Yeah, so mine are taffies.
Taffies.
Yeah, not like the saltwater taffies.
They're more dense, but they're also DEA registered hemp farms.
That's where I get my hemp from.
So I know that they're clean.
They get tested for pretty much every pesticide, every metal.
I have the chain of custody paperwork in case anybody wants to see it.
And then I use FDA regulated CGMP compliant kitchens to make sure that there's an added layer of safety with the cleanse.
of the product itself.
And that kind is what separates mine from a lot of products.
Mine are very focused for a couple of different reasons.
I work with sleep and pain and stress and anxiety.
So I work with pretty much only two products as of right now.
I'm formulating a few others, but I like to work more with the low dose judicious amounts and dose products.
Now you have a doctorate in this.
I do.
I got it last year May from UW Madison.
I would have thought that that would have ever happened to me.
Now, there is a push to regulate the industry a little bit because there really aren't any regulations.
No one saw this development happening because of the hemp
product.
Well, they wanted to grow hemp in the state.
And then after that, everything just developed from there.
And now, now people want some safeguards put up some guardrails.
Yeah.
And then that's kind of basically what you're providing with your product.
So yeah, working in the healthcare industry, I want to make sure that what I give to my clients and my customers is exactly what it is.
I like to be very transparent.
Again, that's part of healthcare is being very transparent with your customers.
Other people out there they have a tendency to want to mock up their COAs their certifications and and try to get the most dose THC out of it To make it seem very strong and very potent because that's the tendency of what sells here in Madison, Wisconsin and in Wisconsin in general is
people
want the most potent product the newest product and that's one of the things that I like about Minnesota's with the rules of regulations my products have been accepted up in the Minnesota market that just kind of tells you What kind of product you're dealing with here in Wisconsin
There really are none.
Okay.
As long as the hemp derived, the hemp that you receive is less than 0.3% THC.
Okay.
And then you can manipulate your products however you choose.
That's right.
What is Delta
THC?
So here in Wisconsin, we have to kind of specify the different deltas.
The different THCs are like a family, eight, nine, and 10, and others.
Delta 9 basically just...
It tells you where the double structure is, the double bond is on the chemical structure.
So let's say the delta 8 would be over on this way, delta 9 would be here, delta 10 would be here.
It just tells you where that double bond is on the chemical structure.
treats necessarily?
Not so much what it treats, just what kind of product it is.
So Delta 9 we know is the major main component, psychoactive component of the cannabis plant.
So it's the most abundant.
Delta 8 is in the cannabis plant, it's just in such a low amount that to make a product from the plant itself would be extremely expensive.
So what we do is, or what companies do is they'll isomerize Delta 9 and Delta 8 with using different chemical.
Oh, OK.
yeah.
My sweet spot is about 40 and above.
Okay.
And what do you tell them as far as what, if they have an ailment, let's say they have arthritis or something.
I mean, maybe there's a medical reason that they've heard that your products will help them.
Sure.
How do you guide them?
What do you ask them?
And what do you recommend?
for them.
If I have arthritis or I can't sleep at night, that kind of
thing.
So the workup is kind of like it's personalized.
Everybody is different.
Everybody has their own medical background, medical history, medications that they're on, which a lot of people don't ask about.
And if there's a concern for me, let's say you have a recent heart condition.
Yes.
Cannabis products may not be for you at this point in time.
Exactly.
But as soon as that becomes a
More maintained than we come back and revisit possible low dose starting dose of like one milligram THC or CBD But safety is always a concern Transparency is always a concern if I'm working with some patients with some mental health issues I always ensure that they're talking with their psychiatrist or psychologist about any cannabinoid products I give them my card.
I'm very open about it They can contact me at any time, but safety is a priority to me.
a lot of
So I think you're referring to the ACC paper the AHA papers so the ACC paper that came out in 2025 I think in May So there was a correlation, but they couldn't really determine a causation
And then when they were talking about their study, I believe they only used four keywords when they were looking up all of the medical patient's histories.
So they used the words cannabis, stroke, heart failure, and something else.
So it was very skewed.
The information was very skewed.
So if you're only using those keywords, your numbers are going to be very high for those reasons.
Now, if they would have added in some other things like tobacco use,
or BMI or other things like that, you can get a more well rounded version.
But because of the, it's news, it's in the headlines, everybody's curious about it.
And again, they're just promoting that same stigma from 1970 of be afraid of this.
You don't have to be afraid of this if you're using it consciously.
If you're using this for the right purpose with the right product.
Now it is shown that inhalation does increase your heart rate.
by about eight beats per minute.
It does increase your blood pressure a little bit, depending on your product that you're using.
But over time...
Your body eventually becomes tolerant of that, and then it actually will drop your blood pressure, depending on the product you use.
Is there a difference?
There is a difference.
So when I'm working with clients and they're not completely sure, and especially they have like a cute outburst of pain, the inhaled form is very quick, it's got a very quick onset, but it doesn't last as long as the oral or the ingestion route.
So when we're talking about inhalation, what I like to choose is the vaporization method.
It's the safest method.
You don't combust the material, unlike smoking, let's say, a joint
or
a bowl of marijuana or cannabis.
With that being said, the vaporization method also will increase your heart rate and your blood pressure, just because it's very acute.
It's not a controlled... Very sudden.
Yeah, it's very
I don't, but it's all online.
On my site, you can find all the locations my products are available.
Okay.
Wait, what?
Really?
Sure.
Where's
the pig?
Is there a
Pigley
Whitley Madison?
Out in Sock.
Out in Sock.
Oh, Sock.
Yeah, right on Highway 12.
Yeah, on Bellevue 2 and yeah, or Belleville.
So there you go.
Okay.
So the oral route that the ingestion when you actually eat it
I like this method because it lasts longer and you don't need as much.
The inhale version works great, especially if you have acute issues and you need something right away.
But when you actually eat the edible, it breaks down through the liver, similar to a lot of oral medications.
And then it gets in the bloodstream, which is about four times stronger than what it originally was.
But it also lasts about eight to 12 hours longer.
So you get that full effect for a longer period of time.
And
sure
So my two products the sleep and pain and the stress and anxiety Those are the the major conditions that I see a lot of people for and this happened even before I was ahead of doctorate This was when I was working the floors of bedside nurse and 2016 onto 2023 a lot of people come in for insomnia or pain
And they didn't, I'm not a huge fan of opiates that everybody knows that.
But there is a place for them.
It just should not be used long term.
It should not be used chronically.
Cannabinoids on the other hand can be used long term.
There's no negative horrible
side
effects like opiates do have.
But yeah, sleep and pain and stress and anxiety are a couple of things that I treat.
There's a couple of different forms of insomnia that I work with.
And then we talk about dosing to help better.
Help with that problem
Yeah
or to break it up like absolutely so you can either just take a little bite off of it Or you can use a scissors and cut it
But each package, each taffy is individually packaged within the packaging to help with shelf life, to help with longevity and also to help with safety for little fingers getting into it.
And you would probably recommend trying
to see
And this Saturday, I'll be at Garver Sessions.
I'll be there for the daytime and the PM.
And then Sunday, I'll be back at the Northside Farmers Market, where I usually am every Sunday.
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Okay.
I was listening to Market watch on public radio, and it was I love that Kai Rizdall is one of my favorite talk shows But anyway, he had this little factoid which I thought was rather interesting finally putting a point to all the job losses in the federal government
He said, we have lost so far 280,000 jobs in the federal government.
280,000 people lost their jobs.
Who knows about their home mortgages?
I mean, these are people who relied on a good, solid government job.
Yes, yes, with benefits, the whole thing.
And 280,000 is just...
mind boggling.
That is, that's, it's just wrong.
That's
And then of course, the other big story that came out was even worse.
I mean, this is just like crazy.
And this is something that Trump put in place.
And I want, this is a web wisdom.
And we've heard Tizzy and before, and I thought he explained it rather well here.
This is cut 149.
and it is having to do with vets getting treatment.
Let's listen.
Okay.
Donald Trump and Republicans love veterans, right?
That's what I've always been told, that they love veterans.
They seem to imply that Democrats don't, but the Republicans definitely love veterans.
Unless those veterans are Democrats or unmarried, according to this new piece from The Guardian, extremely disturbing and unethical new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats and unmarried
Veterans.
Doctors at VA hospitals nationwide could refuse to treat unmarried veterans and Democrats under new hospital guidelines imposed following an executive order by Donald Trump.
The new rules obtained by the Guardian also apply to psychologists, dentists, and a host of other occupations.
They have already gone into effect in at least some VA medical centers.
So it works like this.
Medical staff are still required to treat veterans despite their race, color, religion, and sex, and all veterans remain entitled to treatment.
However, individual workers are now free to decline care for patients based on personal characteristics, not explicitly prohibited by federal law.
So what does that mean?
It means language requiring health care professionals to care for veterans regardless of their politics and marital status has been explicitly eliminated.
Also,
Doctors and other medical staff can be barred from working at VA hospitals based on their marital status, on their political party affiliation or even union activity.
And
we're talking about like chiropractors, certified nurse practitioners, optometrists, podiatrists, licensed clinical social workers, and speech therapists can just lose their job because they're registered Democrat.
or because they're just not married.
When you claim to care about veterans, to care about the fact that these people, regardless of their political party affiliation, served their country, many of them got injured doing so.
And now you want to deny them care because of who they might vote for.
When you say that it's a real big, don't listen to what I say and watch what I do kind of situation.
Good
Good morning gentlemen.
Well, just since you brought that up.
I'm looking at a chart from the labor and statistics United States government added 709,000 jobs in 2023 709,000
And you're complaining about losing $200,000?
Yes.
Well, Biden increased.
That's from the U.S.
government, labor and statistics.
Right.
Well, I'm not disputing it.
Okay.
Look at the facts.
It's easy to look at the chart.
I know it's hard to describe mathematics over the phone or over the radio, but if you look at charts,
Yeah, like the border chart you watch it skyrocket underneath Biden and You know the border is now secure and if Trump was the king it wouldn't be so hard to pass Things in the Congress and the Senate.
Yeah, it'd be great if you were a king So you want him to be one of
well, you know, but now
if you watch
if
All right.
All right.
That's CJ.
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