The Protests                                 feat. Tiffany Hobbs from LA (Hour 2)

Transcript

The Protests feat. Tiffany Hobbs from LA (Hour 2)

John & Gordy · Mon Jun 16, 2025

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

You can tune into any of our live shows on any radio station across the state with the Civic Media app.

Find us in your phone's app store and listen anytime,

anywhere.

WMDX 92.7

FM

John and Gordy in the morning broadcasting from the capital city Madison overlooking State Street and the leaf blower guy is out in the rain

Yes, he

is blowing leaves

doing what he's supposed to

do Yeah, yeah, he's got a

raincoat on I mean he's doing his job.

He's getting paid.

You know the big heart He's the heart of the show

blushing

Seven minutes past the hour.

Highs today will get up to about 80 with showers and occasionally a thunderstorm possible.

You can wake up and sleep better on a Verlo mattress.

Plenty has changed since 1958, but some things remain constant through Verlo's history.

They're still direct to consumer and providing superior products at unbeatable prices.

Verlo mattress to Madison locations east and west.

go to verlo.com.

By the way, if you want to vote for us in the best of Madison poll, you can do that by going to our website, wmdxradio.com.

We're up for best radio team for

Madison

magazine.

Yeah, we don't know how that happened.

Yeah, we have no idea.

But I noticed the poll.

The pressure.

The poll at wmdxradio.com.

You know, we have a poll we put up

questions every once in a while.

And the question this time around is, will you vote?

John and Gordy best radio team in Madison Magazine's Best of Madison Poll.

How

did that get

on there?

So shameless.

Four choices here.

You bet.

Love those guys.

That's getting 71% right now.

Shocker.

The second possibility.

Maybe they're OK, I guess.

That's 14.3%.

And then the third choice is probably, but I really don't like John Peterson.

That's

also at 14.3%.

And then the fourth choice is, who is this Gordy person you speak of?

And that got zero percent.

So you can vote.

Just go to wmdxradio.com and then.

If you want to vote for us for Best of Madison, you know, for Madison Magazine, you just click on the banner when that pops up there.

Yeah, and Doug was also talking on the text line saying, is there any way I can just vote for Dominic?

So, hey, Doug, I appreciate you.

I

appreciate you, Doug.

I want to put the kibosh on that right away now.

No,

there's no way

to vote for Dominic.

Sorry.

Maybe next year, Dominic.

Yeah, maybe.

Best radio producer.

Right.

Remember the...

They're eating the dogs.

They're eating the cows.

Oh, sure.

Remember that?

Yeah, we've got that.

That

Kathryn Lake

was quite the

incident.

Kathryn Lake

Oh, yes.

And of

course it proved not to be true, obviously.

Yeah.

But here's the thing.

The promise was to get rid of the criminal elements, the undocumented immigrants in this country who are criminals, who have committed murder, robberies, you know, just illegal activity.

Right.

That was the whole thing.

They were going to clear them up because Biden had let all these criminals in, remember the prisons and other countries were emptied out.

Yes.

And all those people were sent into the U.S.

to immigrate here, all the criminals, right?

Yep.

Well, that's not happening.

It's not.

That isn't happening.

They're going after everybody now.

They're even going after legal.

documented immigrants in this country.

And it's hitting a lot of people now that this is not what they voted for.

But it was very surprising to hear that Joe Rogan is also on our side of this issue.

So why don't we play cut 138.

This is Joe Rogan talking about it.

see a lot of people online talking about this immigrant issue and they either don't have kids or they don't think it could happen to their kids their idea is hey shouldn't come over here you

Kathryn Lake

get those kind of

people broke the law shouldn't come over here if you didn't want to get your kids separated if you were in the presence of a woman who came over here from Guatemala and she's poor and she's starving and they're taking her baby away and she's wailing

Kathryn Lake

and

screaming

from a primal place in her DNA that the one thing she loves more than anything is being taken away.

A baby.

If that doesn't freak you the fuck out, you're not a part of the team, man.

You're

missing it.

You're missing it.

What are we here for?

We're here for 100 years of whatever.

That's what we're here for.

If you want to spend 100 years saying, hey, should have the fucking broke the law, I don't want you on the team.

You're an asshole.

And I don't give a f*** your right or left.

I don't care if you're religious or I don't care if you're an atheist.

If that's what you support, you're an asshole.

And we don't want you on our team.

And I don't give a f***.

if they broke the law you don't take parents and kids and separate them you just fucking don't it's disgusting if you're saying well they shouldn't have broke the law maybe they shouldn't have broke the law you don't get to do something that's a thousand times worse than crossing a line the dirt that fucking imaginary line of the dirt crossing that is nothing in comparison to your crime of stealing a baby from its mother that's fucking insane that's

right

Okay, I know Joe Rogan.

I don't know if he wanted everybody to replay that someplace.

The way he swore like

that.

What's a podcast?

Well, it gave

me a whole afternoon of work.

That's all, you know, kept me busy.

But here's the thing about all of that.

And it's finally, you know, settling into a lot of individuals, even magas at this point, that this is all wrong.

Now, I sent that to my mega friend in Milwaukee, and he thought that

Joe Rogan was wrong.

Really?

That it's okay to do these things.

They knew the risks.

They took the risk and this is what happens.

No heart, no feelings, no nothing.

Just total allegiance to the Trump administration.

Now, of course, Trump is finding out that taking these immigrants out of the fields, supplying us with food or

you know the immigrants that are working in hotels hotels and yeah from from major donors who own those hotels a

big resource

that's a big uh it's a big issue now and he has called them off he said he is not going to be deporting any of those individuals the gardeners in the fields in the hotels

the janitors housekeeping

how that works out yeah

suddenly he's had that realization yeah i gotta ask are we gonna ever

get your Milwaukee friend on the show?

I feel like we need your Milwaukee friend on the show for a little bit.

Well, we've done them on a couple of times.

Yeah, they're afraid to come on, though, like CJ's afraid to come on and tell us the rest of the story.

But they don't get up early enough

because

they don't work.

But we do have Mark on the line.

You can call us to 608-879-8255.

Let's go to Mark.

Let's go to Mark.

Good morning, Mark.

What do you got for us today?

Yeah.

Good morning.

I was there on the Wisconsin River Bridge.

They're on Highway 12 on Saturday with my fellows from, from Sock Prairie there.

And it was well over 200 people there.

And, uh, I see a video clip out there on their Facebook page right now.

My sign, I did all, did a more, a little more complicated one.

It was kind of a schoolhouse rock.

And I, um, I go rocking and rolling, marching and chatting.

on the horizon what can it be looks like it's gonna be a trump-free country so

all

right for

you mark yeah that's good

yeah there was a lot of thumbs up of people going by um very few people you know flipping us off or or there's one just one truck went by with flying a trump flag and and an american flag on its bed rubbing its engine and belching out diesel smoke at us beautiful

I mean, it went walking down on our side of the bridge there.

A person at us, and nobody, it was tempted to toss his ass in the river.

So that

was on the Highway

12 bridge

across?

Highway 12 bridge.

In Soxity.

On the South Goinside, it was full of people on the northbound side.

There was one low-end Trump supporter, and there was a few of

a few people from our side of the political stream talking to the guy.

There was just one guy there, you know, supporting Trump.

So, I mean, over 200 people were on that bridge.

I mean, that was just really nice vibe.

There's one police officer there standing there.

I talked to that young man for a bit.

Nobody was getting out of hand.

There was just some motorcyclists who were giving up.

You know the truck behind them they were kind of going they were kind of beeping I want to the gun we guys laying on the horn to bought it and those guys in the motorcycles were being Being decks I guess so they you know, but he didn't need to feel the need to even go over there and then take care of that I mean that

And

then it was a really nice vibe really nice friendly really nice friendly vibe

You guys made it over to the vintage and I had a couple beers after that

I don't know I had I had to get home for the dog because he's probably wondering.

Well, I Yeah, yeah, that's good to

see you got there

Beautiful day.

I mean, well, it's a mile away.

So it's easy for me to get there and And so it was a lot of fun and I talked to some nice people and it was just it was great

Good deal, Mark.

Thanks for calling in with that report.

Thanks for

throwing that mega guy over the bridge and into the dam.

No, no.

Yeah, I know here in Madison I went to the protest on Saturday.

It was almost a festive atmosphere.

It was very peaceful and I didn't see any trouble.

I didn't hear any reports of big problems here.

And a huge crowd, about 15,000 they say.

You know, it wasn't just a bad showing for the big...

parade for Trump in the anniversary of the army.

But it was also flag day.

And they had a big problem.

The Department of Defense put a post on flag day displaying a white, blue, and red striped flag.

And that is the same flag that Russia flies overhead.

That is the Russian flag.

So they actually defense did this yes, they posted this big poster saying hey, it's flag day and I'm had a us flag there of course, but at the bottom there were two Russian flags Yeah,

that's okay, how did that

I don't know how that happened there.

We get hacked.

They're not very smart, right?

Shoot they thought they'd put the white blue and red in that order Unfortunately at the bottom and it is it is the wrong place So all those people who are angry about the Mexican flag, you know and those people holding those make Mexican flags They should be deported to well.

I don't know how about the Russian flag.

Are you still as angry?

Yeah

Yeah, okay.

Wow, that's

That's

something, isn't it?

Says anyone who thinks the obvious Russian flags in the State Department's flag day post are accidental, clearly forgot when edgy little fascists work in the DeSantis camp, they snuck a son-in-rad

into a campaign ad and what people making this content know exactly what they're doing.

Oh, a son in red is a Sunwheel symbol originating in Nazi Germany and later employed by neo-Nazis and other

Kathryn Lake

far

right individual groups.

The symbol design consists of six radial SS logos.

That's hey, and that's uh, and they incorporated that into DeSantis had Yikes So the department of fence Russian flags DeSantis, you know the Nazi symbols

sweet amazing.

Okay.

It's

all

happening.

Yeah, it sure is Coming up.

We're gonna talk to Brittany Merlot Get the latest on the wet weather that we have on the way forward looks like much of the rest of

the day.

Yeah, yeah

This portion of the show being brought to you by Madison Hearing Aid Center, 4706 Connors Grove Road in Madison.

You can check out their website at MadisonHearingAidCenter.com.

They are family owned and community focused.

They emphasize passion over profit.

They have fast and flexible appointments and they are helping people change their lives.

Their number one goal isn't just selling hearing aids.

It's improving the quality of life through better hearing.

Check them out today, MadisonHearingAidCenter.com.

You can actually do an initial hearing test right on their website, MadisonHearingAidCenter.com, 4706.

I would just give them a call.

I would give them a call and talk to them.

Yes.

Set up an appointment and

you'll be glad to did.

Talk to Jim or Sarah.

Okay.

19 past the hour, Brittany Merlot coming up next.

Check out the weather.

Stay with us on John and

Gordy.

They're

Kathryn Lake

eating the pets of the people that live there.

They're eating the dogs.

They're eating the cats.

This is Chris Kammer, the rock and roll dentist.

You know, John and Gordy helped me wake up with a song in my heart and a smile on my face.

La la la la la la, I love them.

Yes,

Kathryn Lake

and that's

why I'm voting

Kathryn Lake

for them

for best radio team

Kathryn Lake

of Madison

Magazine's Best of Madison poll.

Let them put a smile on your face too, and don't forget to floss.

See, that's a good dental reminder.

Don't forget to floss.

That's Chris Kammer.

We appreciate that endorsement.

Yeah, you can vote for us for best radio team.

Best of Madison Magazine Competition, or Poll.

You can go to our website, wmdxradio.com.

Just click on the banner when it pops up for Madison Magazine.

Best of Madison.

Do we have that song, the John and Gordy song by... Oh, by Art Paul?

Art Paul.

Yeah.

We're gonna have to dig for that.

Let me dig for that.

We definitely have it.

We definitely have it.

Okay.

Yeah, we'll just throw that at you and see what happens.

But we've got Brittany here.

Yes.

And we got to find out what's going on with the weather.

Brittany, my windshield wipers were on automatically when I turned my car on this morning.

We don't know why that happened.

No idea.

It's just, it's really strange.

And the weirdest thing, the windshield wiper on the back window was turned

Kathryn Lake

on.

And that takes an extra effort.

You got to turn a little knob at the end of the.

handle in order to turn that windshield wiper on.

I'm like stunned.

It wasn't me.

I didn't do any of this stuff.

Sure.

Okay.

You ever had

Brittney Merlot

something like that happen?

Yeah, it's haunted.

Yeah.

You know, my little Prius.

Brittney Merlot

I love it when it works, though.

Yeah.

It doesn't work and you need it.

Yeah.

No, that's good stuff.

But

Brittney Merlot

yeah, you guys have some light rain, just as blob of dreariness hanging over the city there, Yuck.

Yes.

Kind of tracking in.

I think it should be out of there by nine, ten o'clock this morning.

More spots of sun as you go through the afternoon and of course, hot and humid.

I, you know, I just need an event.

Sorry.

Yeah, go

Brittney Merlot

ahead.

Temperatures are at 64 degrees right now.

That is warmer than I got all weekend long.

We had highs on the fifties here.

I felt like fall.

Wow.

That's

Brittney Merlot

crazy.

Look at it.

You guys, upper seventies, eighties, summer.

It was

really hot yesterday.

So what did you do this week?

Did you get out and enjoy the

cool weather?

Brittney Merlot

I did.

So I pretended it was fall and I went for a mountain bike ride and hurt my back a little bit.

I rode way too hard.

So this morning I was

just

Brittney Merlot

rolled out of bed.

Doing flips on your bike, man, I tell you,

Brittney Merlot

you are risky.

You

Brittney Merlot

know how to

take those chances, I guess.

So what can we expect for the rest of this week?

Brittney Merlot

Yeah, a lot of heat and humidity still building in on the muggy nest still stuck there today highs in the mid 80s both today and tomorrow We're looking at chances of some storms moving in overnight.

Some of those could be on the stronger side Maybe some gusty winds smaller hail and then of course more tomorrow afternoon Probably from one to five o'clock or so.

Some of those could be strong to severe again Those will clear out pretty quick.

So we'll have a dry evening

Fortunately, another low pressure system heads our way Wednesday, so another wet day Wednesday.

That could be a potential soaker.

Highs at about 80 now, so we'll fall to the low 80s Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Thursday, Friday looks mainly dry, but then the heat and humidity build even more.

I'm talking 90 degree temperatures.

Wait, when?

Friday?

Oh, the dew points in the 70s?

Oh my

God.

Brittney Merlot

I thought the

60s was bad.

I

know.

I want to warn

everybody, you

Kathryn Lake

know,

the dew points, that's the important number.

That is the most important number.

It is.

It is.

I

Brittney Merlot

agree with you.

It's all about that wetness in the air and it's just sweat.

It's gross.

It won't evaporate.

I hate it.

That's why I'm rocking the curly hair because you can't be straight

hair.

It looks good.

It

Brittney Merlot

looks great.

The humidity's up.

You can't.

Thank you guys.

Thank you, Brittany.

We appreciate that report.

Well,

I've got something here for Brittany.

Oh, you

do?

Yeah.

For the past four years, a fleet of drone vessels has

purposefully steered into the heart of hurricanes to gather information on the storm's wind speeds, wave height, and critically the complex transfer of heat and moisture between the ocean and the air above it.

But the company's sail drone was unable to bid on its contract this time around and prevented sail drone from actually having these these sail drones back in the water again off of Florida in order to help

predict those hurricanes.

It's another example of the way the Trump administration has fumbled storm preparedness at NOAA because they delayed it too long.

Now they don't have these drones in the water to help predict the hurricanes.

Wow.

I didn't know they had drones out there.

Yeah, there's a little sailboat drones that go out.

Brittney Merlot

That sounds pretty cool.

I want to see one now.

Wow, that's important.

That is important, important data because we don't want to be out there in the middle of the ocean gathering it.

We don't want to send the people to the middle of the ocean.

So, oh no.

And they had actually a new feature.

The observations were set to be piped directly into forecast models through newer, faster processes this year with the goal of boosting accuracy.

So we can forget about

Brittney Merlot

that.

Thank

you, Noah, for being late on this one because

Brittney Merlot

they

laid everybody off, right?

Brittney Merlot

I know.

I just love going backwards.

You know, we have all the science and data and, you know, growth so we can actually know what's happening for forecasts and then gone.

I know.

I know.

It's dangerous

Brittney Merlot

stuff.

We'll

Brittney Merlot

see what

happens.

All right, Brittany, thank you so much.

We will check in with you again tomorrow morning.

Appreciate it.

That's

our

WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merleau.

This portion of John and Gordy in the morning brought to you by our friends at Verlo mattress.

You can wake up and sleep better on a Verlo mattress.

A lot has changed a lot, John, since they opened their doors.

I know they've got the adjustable bed frames

in 1958.

Yes, that's a fairly recent development.

The adjustable bed frames that you are so.

Hung

up.

They're not just hospital beds anymore.

They're very comfortable.

I'm telling you, you will never regret.

I get on my damn sub box every time I get

into this.

Well, at Virlo Mattress, they're still direct to consumer and provide superior products at unbeatable prices.

Virlo Mattress, two Madison locations, east and west.

Just go to Verlo.com.

Yes, we love those adjustable bit frames, don't we?

Coming up next, after the news and after the Midwest Farm Report, it's Tiffany Hobbs from K-F-I-A-M in Los Angeles, California, live.

We will check with her and find out what's going on

in LA.

In

the broadcast, yeah.

Coming up on Johnny

Gordy.

John and Gordy in the morning from Capital City, Madison.

We hope you're having a great morning despite the light

drizzle outside.

Yeah, we've got some showers and currently in the mid 60s, we'll get up to a high near 80 this afternoon.

Maybe some thunderstorms on the way later on today.

Time to welcome in our guest from Los Angeles, California, live on the phone right now.

We have Tiffany Hobbs from KFI AM in LA.

Good morning, Tiffany.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

And what an interesting forecast you are looking forward to today.

It sounds similar to LA minus the rain, but happy summer.

Yes.

Well, you don't have a smog out there anymore, right?

I mean, it's just overcast.

Yeah, there's no smog in LA whatsoever.

That's what I

heard,

yes.

So you're a talk show host at KFI in LA.

I am.

I am.

We are one of the biggest talk stations in the country.

Definitely the biggest in LA.

And we're carried by iHeartMedia and live on the radio as well.

Well, that's fantastic.

You've been covering the LA protests out there.

And, you know, it just seems to me that there's a difficult

time now for a lot of people to figure out what's really going on in these protests.

Now you've had actual people out there who are participants, or at least walking along with a lot of the protesters.

I can't remember.

Is it Chris Alter who reports with you as well?

Chris Attler is an independent journalist, but we've had our own reporter, Michael Monks out there, our news reporter.

I know a number of people who have participated and or covered the protests.

And they're still ongoing.

They're kind of indefinite at this point, but a lot of real-time information.

I've been in the middle of the protest as an observer, as media as well, so seeing it from all angles.

Well, you know, the difference, I think, this time around is that

Now the Megas don't want people to protest at all.

In the old days, we were allowed to protest, but nowadays they don't want anybody to protest.

And I'm trying to figure this out because, you know, we see the peace will protest.

And then all of a sudden, the police are there and

Kathryn Lake

they're

pushing them back.

And I don't know why they're pushing them back.

I mean, there are very few protesters to begin with at most of these protests.

And then they push them off to the side and then they.

They arrest them, and I'm not quite sure why all of this is happening.

Do you have an explanation?

I know a lot of this stuff takes place in the afternoon after the peaceful protest, but suddenly the police come in and they start pushing people around.

Is it because of the curfew, or what is it that makes them want to be aggressive toward these peaceful protesters in the first place?

Well, there's quite a lot going on at once or simultaneously.

So this all started a little over a week ago, two Thursdays ago now, where the ICE immigration raids were happening here in LA, seemingly spontaneously.

Others may have had an idea that this was coming, but for the general public, it was practically out of nowhere.

And people began responding to those immigration raids that Thursday.

day evening, Friday afternoon, Friday morning, and then into that weekend.

We immediately saw an increased police presence in that zone.

And those of you around the country, you know, outside of LA may be wondering what that zone actually consists of.

It's really practically a little over one

square mile in our downtown district.

Every big city has a downtown that's bustling with its cultural events, with its sporting events, with its housing, whatever it may be, and we certainly have one as well.

And within that downtown district are also our federal buildings, our law enforcement headquarters.

And so everything happened right there in front of our main federal building where it was reported that some of these detainees by ICE were being held.

And so people went down there, exercised their constitutional right with their bull horns, with their signs, with their marching, and they were doing so peacefully.

But that increased

law enforcement presence, excuse me, presence with LAPD with our sheriff's department really did inflame an otherwise peaceful situation.

And the lines kind of those...

skirmish lines appeared and the increased police presence already is intimidating.

The optics of police in more militarized gear definitely is off-putting for the most peaceful of protesters because people were saying, we don't need you here.

Why are you here?

And as police became more aggressive in their enforcement, you did have people, of course, continuing to exercise their right and demanding that they were to stay where they were.

But police became physically agitating and started to, you know, actually physically push people back.

The mounted police came out.

You had the flashbang.

You had the tear gas.

deployed.

This was all before the curfew ever took effect.

This is within the first couple of days where I was actually situated.

I don't live far from this area and I was able to access it easily.

And so while watching what was initially peaceful turn into something a lot more volatile, it could really be

pinpointed the the the center of it or at least the origin of it could be pinpointed as these flashbangs as the deployment of this tear gas because then you have crowds running so people stamp heating you have people trying to get over each other and running into things and yes all of that completely inflamed the situation yes there are

agitators on the protest side who are not at all affiliated with the protesters.

Let me just be clear.

We've seen this in previous situations back to Trayvon Martin in the early 2010s, all the way up till now, these alternative fringe groups that come out, and that do want to rabble-route.

They use these opportunities, these protests that are peaceful, to

you know, exercise the right to their own cause, but their display becomes a lot more violent.

That's where you see on the news, I'm sure covered right there in Madison as well.

People throwing things over the freeway overpass at police squad cars below, people graffitiing the buildings, people throwing things at the skirmish line.

So those are not

the original protesters who are angry and incensed about these ICE immigration raids.

These are people who use the opportunity to continue to inflame situations to their own benefits.

And then when they leave, the peaceful protesters are essentially left to pick up the pieces.

And those pieces that they're picking up resulted in this

curfew being implemented by our mayor, Karen Bass, who is doing so to protect the businesses down there because, of course, there has been destruction, there has been vandalism by these friends' groups as well, and that curfew is in...

place indefinitely as of this morning.

It is 8 p.m.

to 6 a.m.

so it's about to wind down in about 15 minutes hour time but it is being said to be in place according to our mayor Karen Bass indefinitely.

Talking with Tiffany, talking with Tiffany Hobbs from KFI AM radio in Los Angeles, California.

So let's talk a little bit more about the the curfews and review for us again how

How this works, what, what time are the, what time are the protesters supposed to be out of that area?

Eight.

Eight PM.

Yeah.

Eight PM to six AM Pacific standard time.

However, as eight PM starts to approach and we're still in, you know, twilight around eight PM, it's dusk.

It's still, you know, pretty lit up, uh, which is opposite of twilight.

It's a little bit brighter, but for all of our science people out there, uh, but around seven PM.

is when you start to see the police presence increase, even as early as maybe 6 p.m.

They're stationed downtown law enforcement.

Kathryn Lake

Now

also you have the Marines that have been circulating.

You do have this increased militarized force

here.

They're

circulating anyway.

around 6pm, 7pm, they really start to ramp up their presence.

So even though the curfew goes into effect in 8pm, it is highly encouraged that people start to disperse and leave the area well before that.

Now there are hundreds of thousands of residents that live in this downtown area, I would say tens of thousands who are directly impacted by the curfew zone, including businesses.

The Disney Concert Hall is there.

We have the Grammy Museum there.

There are the place where the Lakers play, Crypto.com.

That's right there as well, right on the outside of the zone.

And again, all of these businesses, all of these residents are impacted.

They have to show proof of residency if they are to come out

after

the...

curfew, again, highly discouraged because there are residents who are saying that they are being jostled, they're being questioned and intimidated by law enforcement because they're out walking their dog and, you know, it's being suggested that they don't after 8 p.m.

People who are patrons at these restaurants, many of which have closed because they cannot pivot to different hours or it's just too much to maintain their workforce.

If they have not already furloughed their workforce or have closed completely then they have adjusted their times and people have to show proof of Receipts to law enforcement and be out before 8 p.m.

So There's a lot of moving parts.

Yeah, all of it really translates could just It's really disruptive and it for people who are in this

zone, people who can access it like I can, right on the outside, I'm less than a mile away.

This really does feel like a really heavy-handed response that is unnecessary.

LAPD could have handled this on their

own.

But do you think they're doing a good job?

It seems like you mentioned a few times that they're rather aggressive and I thought maybe Mayor Bass would have at least tempered the reaction that they have as opposed to being as aggressive as they have seemed to be at this point.

Yeah, you know, I definitely want to give accolades to LAPD because many of them

are sympathizers they're right there from the community

as

well and they're not the ones who are are inflaming the situation in most

cases.

In

most cases it's the law enforcement that's been placed in downtown LA to mitigate the you know crowds to provide this crowd control or to assist with ICE as they do these immigration raids.

LAPDs

has been, they do what they always do.

They're just doing their jobs and they have a very difficult one.

I don't want to vilify

them in any

way.

They're just doing what's asked of them and Mayor Bass absolutely has spoken to what was initially a very heavy handed response.

Excellent.

Tiffany, can you stay with us for a couple more minutes?

We have two other questions to answer on this, OK?

I'd

love to.

All right.

We will continue talking with Tiffany Hobbs from KFI AM in Los Angeles about the situation out there.

We're going to talk to her about the National Guard troops and also the Marines and see if they've been involved in anything there as well over the weekend.

Coming back.

with more of John and Gordy in the morning in just a moment.

Right

Kathryn Lake

here on WMDX.

It's where

it's

at.

WMDX 92.7,

John and Gordy in the morning.

It's what's happening.

That's right.

752.

We have rain showers this morning, thunderstorms on the way this afternoon.

This portion of John and Gordy in the morning brought to you by Madison HearingAidCenter.com.

They're at 4706 Cottage Grove Road in Madison, offering fast and flexible appointments.

They're family owned, community focused.

and helping people change their lives.

Their number one goal isn't just selling hearing aids.

It's improving the quality of life through better hearing.

Check out their excellent website, MadisonHearingAidCenter.com.

You can take an initial hearing test right on their website, then set up an appointment with Jim or Sarah.

And again, MadisonHearingAidCenter.com, 4706 Cottage Grove Road in Madison.

Continuing our conversation here with Tiffany Hobbs from KFI AM in Los Angeles.

That's right.

I want to get to one thing, you know, there are a lot of protesters out there, you know, just the few or 20, but some of these people are very confrontational,

Kathryn Lake

you know,

and they keep challenging the police or the National Guard or some of the, you know, the Marines that are wandering around in LA.

And I was just wondering, I have a cut here of one individual and then a protester trying to control this individual.

Let's cut 141.

Let's play that for it.

Okay.

Here we go.

What we're

doing is working.

So all we have to

do is stay calm.

They want you to get out of body.

They want you to, they want a reaction.

Because what we're doing is working.

They want an excuse to get violent

because

what we're doing is working.

So there you go.

This guy is trying to calm.

One of these people just challenging the police.

You know, shoot me.

Go on, shoot me.

I don't know why they

react

like that.

That is just ridiculous.

But then here is that same activist who's trying to control the crowd.

This is cut 140.

Let's play him.

This is just a very short 30-second

cut.

The National Guard has been sent back home.

The National Guard has been set back home.

What we're doing is working.

What we're doing is working.

The National Guard has been set back home.

You see this?

This is why the police are in front now.

There you go.

So there are a few

of those protest activists out there that are actually trying to control the

crowd.

And I think sometimes, you know, I didn't think about it, but these individuals really do the hard work.

And that is they need a spokesperson in front of these crowds sometimes who can get their voice out there and give people direction in some way, shape, or form, because it is a little chaos.

out in the streets.

You know, John and Gordy, there are many people like those or that gentleman you played who are there to do crowd control, who are there to offer directives and to keep people calm.

But of course, the media, of which I am also a part, but try not to, you know, imitate in this way, show what gets the most clicks.

show what gets the most views

and

peace is not profitable.

Unfortunately, what is profitable, what, what does draw attention is the chaos.

And there are pockets of chaos, John and Gordy.

There are not, there's not an influx by any means and anyone living in this city will tell you not only do they feel safe,

to go anywhere in this city, regardless of these protests and demonstrations.

But again, the places in which there are these pockets of chaos are a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny portion of a much larger city.

This city is massive.

And there are people who have been out there for days or weeks now at this point.

As these things go, as we've seen with riots in the past, historically, from Rodney King up until now, as I mentioned in the first segment, the agitators use these opportunities to advance their own interests, and their interest is often to be chaotic.

That's not the whole by any means.

And a lot of people find it off-putting when they see these flash bombs and the tear gas, they see this, they think, oh, there's complete chaos and the cities are being burned down to the ground.

And you know, the cars, I forgot the name of the...

The way

most now, you know,

I heard that they cut they were burning those simply because they had 360 cameras in them.

So it's an easy way to surveil the crowd with those vehicles.

Have you heard something

like that?

Yeah, I haven't heard that.

That's not completely.

you know nonsensical they do these these cars which are everywhere in LA started in San Francisco and became a program here running about six months ago regularly i've written in one they're strange uh but uh you know they do have these 360 camera views and sure if you're trying to

obscure your identity.

You don't want to be surveilled.

There's cameras everywhere downtown, however.

So I wonder if that actually was the case or was just, again, a victim of this high emotion and of these agitators.

But I drove right past the Waymo's as they were burning.

Yeah, sure.

Waymo has suspended service in downtown LA.

Makes sense.

Businesses are closing.

Waymo's a business.

So that's not completely unheard

of.

Well, Tiffany, we have to leave it there, but we appreciate you reporting live from Los Angeles, from KFI.

Yeah, you really clarified, you know, at least our impressions of what's going on out there.

We appreciate that.

Can we stay

in

touch with you

in the future?

Absolutely.

I'll be your LA correspondent.

You can call me anytime.

We

would love that, yes.

Well, thank you so much for spending some time with us this morning, Tiffany.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And if anyone would like to listen to my program on Saturdays and you can hear me via the I heart radio app unless you're in LA as in which you can hear me live, but I heart radio app K F I AM 640 and my show is called Saturdays with Tiffany from 5pm, which is 7pm your time to 9pm your time.

I'd love to hear you.

Thank

you, Tiffany.

We appreciate that.

We'll talk to you again soon.

That's Tiffany Hobbs from KFI

Kathryn Lake

in Los Angeles.

That's

it for us.

Coming up tomorrow, we'll talk to Jesse Christensen.

He's from cannabis, the therapeutics.

Kathryn Lake

The national news cycle never stops.

but it can be hard to find news about your local community.

Civic Media is dedicated to providing quality local and state news coverage across Wisconsin.

With the Civic Media app, you can get notifications about local stories that matter to you and your community.

Find the free Civic Media app in your phone's app store and choose notifications from the menu to tell us what kind of news you want to hear about.

0:00