you
VOMTX, 92.7.
You
ready to start the show yet?
I had to move the books over.
Which would normally have been a mic stand, but now I have the mic in front of me.
That's good.
It's good to have the mic somewhere near your mouth.
Well, it seemed
normal to have the books on the side, not in front of me, trying
to put the show together here.
It's interesting, the book that you have on top there is The President is Missing.
That's that Bill Clinton, James Patterson book.
And they've written three books now.
I saw them on, I don't know, CBS Sunday morning or somewhere.
And they have a third book out now.
It's always about the president.
He's missing or the president's daughter is missing.
And I forget what the new book is.
They're novels.
They're novels.
I guess they're pretty good.
They're on the bestseller list.
I guess, yeah.
Well, that's good.
They're doing okay.
Well, they're
doing
good.
We could
use that third book just to raise the mic up just a little bit more.
We'll work on that.
We'll go over to Barnes and Noble this afternoon.
Pick out something just right.
Well, I'm sure there are books, and then, of course, there are mic stands.
And, you know, why would we ask for a mic
stand?
You know, they're backorder.
There's a supply chain issue of some kind, I believe.
That's what I heard.
I don't know.
That's a rumor.
That's what I would do.
I would stick with that buy, that purchase.
I wouldn't cancel it and move on to get another kind of mic.
It's not
really a big deal, right?
Stand.
Okay.
It's kind of cloudy out there this morning.
It seems very humid.
Does it seem humid to you?
No, no It's too
early in the morning for that I mean it's got you know the the morning chill just a little bit, but still it is really really warm and I just want to remind everybody that the official WM DX Samsung watch prediction.
Yeah of the 68 degree temperature Overnight was right on the money.
Excellent.
Excellent
92.7 WMDX.
I think
we're there now, aren't we?
It's 68.
Yeah.
That's John Peterson.
I'm Gordie Young.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Don Lee.
Don Lee.
The producer.
Yep.
The producer's chair.
How you doing this morning, Dom?
Not
too bad.
I can still, I feel like I can still see the fog a little bit.
I don't know what
you guys do, but I still
see a little bit of fog.
No, it's a haze.
It's not foggy.
It's haze.
Yeah,
a little haze.
It's like smoke.
Yeah, I would think so.
Yeah, did you watch sunset?
It was incredibly red.
You could even look at it this morning sunrise you could look at the Sun again It's just all a haze.
What time is just a haze sunset this evening.
Do you have that on your watch?
Yeah, I do actually 832 Yeah seems like it's staying at 832 Hasn't moved
a
couple of days usually it moves, you know a minute or two, you know
One way or the other, but, but yeah, it depends.
You know, I think we're at, at that magic point where it's starting to, it's going to start going down.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that's like June 21st or something.
Well, see, you're the weather
guy.
You
knew that
stuff.
So a cloudy start this morning and 69 degrees.
I'm seeing the official temperature.
Let's check the afternoon high and see what we have.
What are we going to do today?
We're going to do the bar dice.
We're going to do.
What's your choice, John?
You want to do anything?
One-arm bandit.
The one-arm bandit.
Okay, let's do that.
And we'll see what's going on.
Okay, first numbers are zero, seven, four.
74 for a high.
Is that what you're saying?
Something, watch, is also predicting?
For a high, eight to interrupt you.
Busy over there doing a lot of paperwork at sea.
79.
Okay, well predicted.
I would be warm.
It'll be kind of humid.
We do have a chance for showers and thunderstorms later on today That should hold off till late this afternoon.
It's gonna be cooler this evening though.
Yeah, 55 degrees or a temperature.
All right, we'll check in with Brittany.
We're low in a little while
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We're going to talk to Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spa and find out what's going on there, what's the latest and greatest from Liz.
And also, we've got the, of course, we've got the 2025 Scotty Summer Text to Win contest.
We started that up yesterday.
That'll happen in our seven o'clock hour.
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Well, I can't reveal that until.
after seven o'clock.
I know what it is, but I'm not telling you.
Not till after seven o'clock.
Okay,
you think I might just give
a yes or two?
Yes.
You're not supposed to do that.
We had a
good we had a good amount of submissions yesterday.
I know.
Yeah, we had over 100 people enter yesterday.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, just on our website or in our
I don't know corner of the universe.
It is a statewide contest.
So all the stations are in on that Let's check the national day calendar here.
All right.
We don't do that anymore.
Oh,
yeah, that's right
We don't always
take a quick look just to see what we're
missing if there's anything, you know, there's anything that you know That intrigues you it's national egg day
Who doesn't like eggs?
You know, scrambled eggs, eggs over easy, you know, hard-boiled eggs.
Well, I hate to remind you, but we had an egg shortage a
little while back.
Oh, that's right.
Whereas the price of eggs went right through the roof.
And
we blamed Trump, even though it's really not his fault.
It had more to do with the burnt flu.
But he would do the same to us.
So we're blaming him for the...
the rising price of eggs.
And it's a better price now.
They're almost back down to normal.
Is that right?
Yeah.
That's not a victory, by the way.
The price of eggs is still up there.
Okay?
The same thing with gas.
Oh, gas prices are down.
Two or three cents?
What are you talking about?
Wow.
Taking credit for whatever they can get, I guess.
I guess so.
You know, about 100 billion eggs are produced in American egg farms each year.
Oh, really?
100 billion eggs.
That's a lot of eggs.
It's also National Chocolate Macaroon Day.
Macaroons.
Boy, I love macaroons,
don't you?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, wait, no, you don't like
coconut that
much, do you?
Not really.
Okay.
And it's National Repeat Day.
That's right, it's National Repeat Day.
Could you repeat that?
It's National Repeat Day.
All right.
Do you think we did the same joke last year this time?
You probably right.
National repeat day.
Okay.
Could we pull that
up?
Let's pull it up.
Let's go back in time.
All right.
Just kidding.
Happens each year on June 3rd.
Okay, never mind.
Let's get to the, why don't we get to the history?
Quite the descriptor right there.
Well, I could tell you.
No, no,
no.
You're right.
Don what
do you got
for
us in the history?
Yeah, let's
get into some history in 1965 yeah,
there's
actually the first American astronaut walked walked in space We're going with this with this astronaut trend.
I think yesterday was the it was the same thing Yeah,
do you
know the astronauts name?
Yes,
Ed White
Ed White
yeah, all right during the Gemini for
mission
He just opened the hatch and walked right out there into space and took a little stroll around and came back in.
Absolutely.
And then in 1956, Rock and Roll was actually banned in Santa Cruz, California.
Yeah, that was...
Interesting time, mid 50s, mid to late 50s.
So we're trying to ban rock and roll because Elvis came along, you know, shaking his hips.
That was very controversial at the time.
Yeah, they said it was obscene.
It was
obscene
and
highly
suggestive.
We're going back to that time.
Okay, any birthdays or anniversaries?
Yeah, any of
those things.
Yeah, we
got
a few actually.
1951 Jill Biden Jill Biden as
birthdays today Jill Dr. Jill
all
right
Jill and then in 1950 screenwriter Melissa Matheson who I actually I'm not gonna lie I had no idea who that was I don't know who
it
is either
I still don't know
she She was best known for writing the screenplays for ET as well as the as well as the black stallion
pretty prominent films.
Interesting,
okay.
All right, and there's a birthday here, a couple of birthdays.
Yeah, last but not least, we got 1943 Billy Cunningham, who was an NBA player, and yeah, his nickname was the kangaroo, so.
Which
is just the worst, I feel so
bad for
him.
No, you wouldn't want
to be called that out on the basketball court.
Well, why not?
You could jump really high and probably, you know, probably powerful.
You don't want to look like a kangaroo
out of a basketball court.
The
rest thing you want.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some grace
and ease in athletics, you know, and you don't want to be a kangaroo.
Well, but, you know, but kangaroos are kind of, you know, they're kind of ornery, too.
They're kind of ornery and they punch and they
punch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So maybe that's also what he did.
Yeah.
Maybe
basketball.
Throw down every once in a while
Now
I
also have a story for you guys,
and I don't
know if you guys
have heard
of this But it was very recent It involved a man using a Molotov cocktail and a makeshift flame thrower And he injured about 12 people in Boulder, Colorado.
Yeah, that just happened a couple days ago.
Yeah, it just happened
It was during a pro Israel
Rally mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah,
they're still just awful investigating that.
Yeah, it was awful Coming up here in just a few minutes.
We'll have idiocracy at the half hour a Lot of stories coming up.
Oh, yeah,
we've got some big stories coming up.
We've got one Where the government has decided to surveil the citizens of this country And it seems like a big issue.
Yeah seems like something we would not want
But it's actually happening, and we'll get to that in just a few moments.
And we've got the big story coming up later on, and that is RFK Jr.
and the FDA commissioner.
But they don't have good plans.
These plans are a disaster waiting to happen.
And once you hear a lot of this, the FDA commissioner, Marty McCary,
went out on the talk show circuit and he had a really, really bad interview.
And if you look at the criticisms, the criticisms are from the magas who are saying that the host of the talk show was really bad and just got killed by McCary, but that isn't the case.
It's a strange, strange thing.
They hear what they want to hear.
Well, we'll sample a little bit
of that.
Oh yeah, we've got some of that.
We've
got a little bit of that coming up at the next hour.
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It's kind of a hazy morning because of the smoke flowing down from Canada.
And that's mixing in with some cloud cover.
And we can expect some scattered showers and thunderstorms later today, right now 69 degrees, highs in the mid-70s.
It's 23 past the hour.
Again, coming up in our seven o'clock hour, it's our 2025 Scotty summer text-to-win contest.
All right.
We got that started yesterday.
We'll be doing that after seven o'clock.
So what's happening?
Well, what's
happening is Trump is going after Harvard, as we all know.
Yeah.
And he's going after the foreign students that go to Harvard.
And now they're defunding whatever they possibly can or try to get away with.
defunding.
And I don't understand it.
I thought there were court orders that he could not do this.
And it's being held up in the courts,
you know, his
actions.
He doesn't care what the courts say.
He's just going to keep going after Harvard.
That's, you know, one theory is his son didn't get into that.
That's a big theory.
Beginning to believe that that is very, very true.
It
takes everything so personally.
Even if he takes it personally, you'd think he would also be able to...
at least deal with the concept that what he is doing will have a major effect in this country for the next 10 or 15 years.
Yes.
When it comes to research and studies and in advances in science, in medical care for Americans, but he doesn't seem to care about that.
And I said this all along, Project 2025 is something that was put together by the right wing.
You know, the Heritage Foundation put it together.
Russell's vote is in the administration now.
He's carrying out all of the points that they made up in Project 2025.
He denied it.
He was asked that point blank.
Well, aren't you carrying all of that stuff out?
Aren't you just, you know, doing that?
Oh, no, no, these are all.
Trump's ideas.
Can you imagine that Trump never had an idea in this damn life?
It's all getting even with people that did him wrong.
And that's what he's doing now.
He's getting even with everybody who did him wrong.
And that's all he is able to do.
He is freed up to do that because Project 2025's writers and creators are in the administration carrying out
All of it.
Then they put together all of his executive orders.
And all they had to do was sign them.
He doesn't know what they're about.
As we all watched, can sign those orders, they had to explain what they did.
Right?
They had little sticky notes on the top of each one of them.
He couldn't even read those.
No.
And now they're going to create some kind of like fox.
show, a fake box show in order to explain his daily briefings.
That's right.
Yes, I heard that.
They're putting together little videos.
Exactly.
Because he doesn't read anything.
Explaining all that.
He doesn't read the daily briefings from the intelligence department.
He can't
read.
I remember somebody had...
I guess work with him on the Saturday Night Live crew.
Or, yeah.
And mention that he can't read.
So they
had to
kind of work around his ad living during the show.
Right.
Yeah, well.
So they have to put together little videos for him to watch, little cartoons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Basically.
Pete Davidson was actually the one that said that Trump can't read.
Oh, that was Pete Davidson.
Yes.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's
funny coming from Pete Davidson too.
Yeah, right?
I love Pete Davidson.
Yeah.
His movies are are really really good
even
as a guest.
He's an extremely
talented comedian Phone lines are open 608 879 8255.
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We've got somebody on the line It is Matt up Middleton.
Good morning Matt.
What do you got for us this morning?
how you doing
good morning guys uh i don't know if you've ever listened to professor richard wolf the economics economics professor
yes yes sure we played him on the show
okay yeah it i really think he's correct in what he said recently that uh the big plan behind this doge and firing tens of thousands of people and
It's kind of about an idea that to bring manufacturing back We have to suppress the wages of average Americans to even lower than they currently are and Take down our standard of living bring us back to a place where Chinese citizens were 15 years ago or something and This is going to be decades of pain
if the manufacturing even comes back, which I doubt it will.
So it really is a strange thing to think that they even think will work, first of all, but also to think that I wonder if it's going to be especially painful for us because we were grown up into a certain standard of living.
And to have that taken away is especially painful.
Well, yeah, it would be interesting to see how they would do that, you know, bring a wages down somehow or at least I
don't know how that would be part
of it.
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
They got to build factories.
I mean, it takes it takes a long time to gear up just to build a factory.
Well,
bring the equipment in, hire the people.
There's
not a lot of people out there, and we're getting rid of a lot of people in this country, the immigrants, who hold up the basic infrastructure of our country with services.
I don't know how we're going to deal with all of that, but maybe someday soon.
Matt, thank you for your call.
Again, phone lines are open, 608-879-8255.
After the break, we'll come back with Idiocracy for Tuesday morning.
And a whole lot more straight ahead.
And again, our Scotty Summer Contest, our text-to-win contest after seven o'clock.
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As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you
go and do something like this.
We can duck and cover.
There's a fallout shelter right there.
There's no way to survive this, you
idiot!
Idiocracy.
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.
Oh boy.
Yeah, we got a few things to talk about today in the
idiotocracy.
Yes, we do.
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Okay.
All right, I think they took down
these.
This is your life, John Peterson.
I think they took that down.
Didn't get a lot of traction.
No, I
think it had more of a negative Response than it had anything else perhaps all right, let's start off with George Stephanopoulos, okay?
He opened his show this week ABC yeah with
A warning, basically.
Yeah,
this week with
George Stephanopoulos.
With Trump's corruption problem.
So why don't we go to cut 14 and listen to how we open the show.
Okay.
The scale is staggering.
President Trump and his family are making hundreds of millions, potentially billions of dollars, as Trump and his administration take official actions that benefit contributors and investors just this week.
We learned of pardons to tax cheats, including a man whose pardon was granted weeks after his mother attended a million-dollar head fundraiser with the president.
The Trump Media and Technology Group raised nearly $2.5 billion from 50 institutional investors whose identities have not been disclosed.
The SEC dropped its lawsuit against the cryptocurrency firm Binance days after Binance began listing the cryptocurrency launched by World Liberty Financial, the crypto firm started by Trump's family.
This unprecedented money making by a sitting president and his family, summarized by critics like the Atlantic's David Frum.
Nothing like this has been attempted or even imagined in the history of the American presidency, he writes.
Throw away the history books, discard feeble comparisons to scandals of the past.
There is no analogy with any previous action by any past president.
The brazenness of the self-enrichment resembles nothing seen in any earlier White House.
This is American corruption on the scale of a post-Soviet Republic or a post-colonial African dictatorship.
That's all.
Boy, that's a good way to open the show.
Yeah.
You got a dictator
in charge.
But wait a minute here.
There's
more?
I'll do my impression of CJ.
But what about Hunter?
What about Hunter Biden?
Right.
Oh, man.
Yeah, they have no explanation.
They can't call the show and they can't tell us what they think because they know when they get the hard question.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
They don't know what to say.
Exactly.
They don't have any comeback.
Nope.
All right.
We've got Mark waiting on the line.
Oh, yeah, we do have Mark on the line this morning.
Let's go.
Let's see what Mark has to say today.
Welcome.
Well, I think for some of these guys, they can't even come up with a hard question, let alone anything else
hard.
No, that's true.
That's
true.
And it is just, what staggers me is that, and Hamilton actually said there might be a president come that interested in his own, betrayed the interests of the public for his own enrichment.
I mean, that's fed with 75.
Well, what gets me is all the criticism from the right on, you know, Ukraine's strike of taking out the hardware that the Soviet or the Russians had, and the criticizing that,
And they say, well, you should let Trump know.
Well, Trump would have given a little Putin a heads up on it.
And if you can't see that, I mean,
you're
blind or just a Russian operative, which I think there's a good chunk of mega that it is.
I mean, they're pulling for Russia, and
I don't get it.
Well, this is a great strike by Ukraine.
They kept this a secret for over a year.
Just an incredible plan, and they carried the thing out.
with precision.
Those drones took out 40 planes.
40,
yeah.
And they're taking out military targets rather than civilian targets
like
Putin is all the time.
Exactly,
yeah.
I mean, I'm tired of people bleeding, you know, whining about poor Putin and poor Russia.
Well, Russia started this whole thing and they're paying the price.
And if it just so happened that Putin was visiting one of those sites when, you know, one of those strikes happened, oh, too bad, I wouldn't...
So sad.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you, Mark.
All right.
And you know, let's talk a little bit about Trump's parade, right?
This is going to be a big anniversary for the military.
Yeah.
At the same time, he's kind of taken or stolen the thunder of having this parade, this tip of the hat to the military
for
a job well done.
Well, it's all about Trump now, right?
Is that right?
Yeah.
And let's
Take a listen to cut three.
This is Brian Krasenstein.
He has a column there, a lot of comments on X, but he had this to say about the Trump parade.
He detailed some of what we can expect.
Actually, it's not in here.
It's not in here, John.
We don't have cut three.
Cut three.
No, no cut three.
All right.
We'll keep looking.
We do have cut three.
I'm sorry.
I am very sorry about that.
That's all
right.
OK.
All right.
Go ahead.
Let's listen to it.
So here's a quick question for Maga.
Are you OK with Trump's military parade next month?
It will not only have.
hundreds of American soldiers, but 6700 American soldiers, 50 in-air helicopters, 34 horses, and 28 70 ton M1 Abram battle tanks.
The cost?
$45 million.
Enough money to feed 246,000 starving children for the next year.
Don't pretend you care about the national debt when you're blowing $45 million in a stupid military parade to make us look like North Korea.
That's right.
That's Brian Crescent-Steen.
He does a commentary on X, so you might want to check him out or follow him.
Good stuff.
And I don't know what those tanks are going to do to the highways and the roads where this
Parade is going to take place.
They're going to have to dig up those roads.
There's going to be some road construction around there.
Certainly after this.
But what a gross way to do things.
I mean, this is not the American way.
This is not what we do.
We don't celebrate war.
We don't celebrate the war machines.
No.
Again, we're not like with Korea.
We got a couple of texts in here.
We got Doug texting in here and Doug says, John and Gordy should learn from Ukraine.
Create lightweight.
lightweight drone based transmitters that can be released at 6 a.m.
In Milwaukee Doug lives in Milwaukee.
Yeah, what's this over there?
While broadcasting our show, you know, release these drone based transmitters John and Gordy invade Milwaukee.
Okay.
Thank you.
Well, I'm all for that.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
He also had a couple other ideas here.
He wants us to add a call to action segment where listeners learn how and where they can take action to make a difference.
That's actually, we should workshop that.
That's a great idea.
The CTA segment is where you can find out about protests, elected representative contact info, break out the passive listener mode with CTA, with call to action.
All right, Doug.
Sounds like a lot of work, Doug.
It's well, but it's a great idea.
Yes.
I mean added work, you know We're trying to get all the good stuff here for idiocracy and we have another big story.
Okay.
You've probably heard about this Job Corps
Okay
was killed, you know, goodbye It's it's goodbye to Job Corps because it really was a DEI based program, right?
I mean, it's out there helping low-income individuals get a
Get
a
job.
Get a job.
Good
job.
Essentially, or even even housing at this point.
It was established as part of the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964.
So it goes back and it's proven itself over and over again.
It provides a free residential education and job training programs for low income people between 16 and 24 years of age and students can also earn a school diploma or a GED.
get vocational training and even get this, learn how to drive.
Really?
Like,
bring in how to drive
to work.
Driving
education.
Yes.
So, you know, they're giving people, you know, a hand up and they're trying to help these individuals out and it's been in force since 1964, but it's time to get rid of it because it's helping minority individuals mostly.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So they're going to get rid of it.
Let's listen to cut 12 on this.
This is the story on Job Corps and the devastating effects it's going to have on those communities.
Listen.
Job Corps works.
Save Job Corps.
Job Corps matters.
We matter.
This is our home.
This means everything to us.
We may be a financial loss to y'all.
But this is our world.
This is everything we have.
This is our future.
And without this, so many of us are lost.
So many of us have
nothing to do.
They had us go to the wreck at about...
and they broke the news to us and they had us go to the dorms pack our stuff.
The staff on site would not say a word to us, but sources tell us he was shut down after recent cuts at the Department of
Labor, which oversees the program.
I didn't want him to be statistic, so I wanted him to be focused and get his education.
16 year old Carlton Davis lived here and his mom recently lost their house and there's more.
I have breast cancer surgery next week, so now I'm debating having my surgery canceled.
So I can make sure my son is okay.
I'm livid.
I am livid.
I am.
I cannot believe this
community activist Pastor Moe trying to help out here after getting calls from frantic mothers.
He's worried about the short and long term solutions for these kids.
The ones who were trying to get it right.
This why I'm so pissed off.
These are not kids are in a youth home who got caught in a crime.
He's a kid
who's job core.
All right.
Seems like too good of an idea to just let it go, right?
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It is truly a disappointing moment in history.
Since 1964, this program has been in place, Job Corps, and it's been helping people.
And according to the Trump administration, their reason for getting rid of Job Corps, it is financially unsustainable.
Well, wait, how?
I
can't imagine this program not being that big.
Certainly, why would it not be?
Sustainable, I don't I don't understand that.
We're giving away a four trillion dollar tax cut.
Mm-hmm But this is unsustainable helping these individuals.
Well, it's you know, it's been working well since 1964 somehow We found it sustainable both sides of the aisle seem to think it was a good program all the way, you know
since the mid-60s well for some reason, you know Trump in the Doors crew think this is a failed experiment, you know
and it costs over $1.5 billion.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, that's so much money, isn't it?
And then this, the labor secretary said, the program has been found to no longer achieve the intended outcomes that students deserve, citing an in-depth physical analysis.
You know, for some reason, I'm just not believing any of that.
Just not believing it.
Hey, let's go to the phones.
All right, we've got Joe on the line.
Hi, Joe.
Good morning.
Hey, guys.
Good morning.
Great show as always.
Thank you.
I wanted to pick up on some of the comments that Mark had started with in reference to Trump and his treatment of soldiers in the suggested parade and this strike that happened against Russia.
I find it just...
I mean, sickly comical that we're talking about a $45 million parade in D.C.
at the same time the administration is cutting, I think they're projected $83,000.
positions within the VA.
Yeah, you use the expression that this was the parade was meant to be a tip of the hat to soldiers.
Anything more disrespectful than when you're really needed, when you are disabled enough to be eligible for VA care.
And I just find it kind of comical too that here we have this administration where our Secretary of Defense Hexeth was blabbing the details of that military operation against
the Houthis, a while it was happening.
And
these were soldiers that said, gee, that doesn't seem real safe.
So if you really wanted
to
do a tip of the hat to soldiers, is this the way that you would do it?
I'm thinking no.
I'm
thinking
no,
this might not be the best way to do
it.
All right, Joe.
Thank you.
It's amazing all the contradictions.
You know, they do one thing, but then they do another, which contradicts whatever they were doing originally.
I want to get to something here.
I think we have
a
couple of minutes.
Yeah, I think we do.
Let's get to the rise of authoritarianism.
Let's listen to cut 13.
This is called this is a web wisdom from somebody who is going to put it all together for us.
Let's listen.
Much everyone who takes a look at Trump's reconciliation bill, including his allies like Elon Musk and folks at the big banks, agreed that all this bill will do is make Americans poorer, sicker, in debt, and less educated.
Why would he do that?
All you have to do is take a look through history at the rise of authoritarian governments.
They virtually all start by leaders declaring an enemy, like, I don't know, migrants, and then intentionally hurting the country under the guise of keeping them safe from this threat.
Authoritarian governments always go after journalists, academics, teachers, anyone working to educate the public on what's really happening.
Putting people in an economic crisis makes them desperate and makes it more difficult for them to pay attention to what's going on around them.
and cutting their healthcare, making them sicker, literally makes them easier to physically control.
I know it sounds like a really dark conspiracy theory, but truly, if you study history, if you take a look at how authoritarian movements have organized and taken over entire countries, this is the playbook.
If you really stop and think about it, there is no good reason to make people have to choose between paying their rent and getting their insulin.
There is no good reason for making people have to choose between buying groceries and paying their student loan debt.
And there is no good reason to defund the scientific and academic research that is literally saving people's lives.
Unless you want to make people weaker, more fearful, and easier to control.
And that's exactly what we're seeing.
It's not a big, beautiful bill.
It's really a death sentence for democracy.
Perfect.
Well said.
Well, yes.
Perfect is right.
Yeah.
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Just a little update here.
The peace talks between Russia and Ukraine is off again.
Just to let you know, it's not really ever going to happen.
It doesn't seem like it.
They just throw that out there just to keep everybody guessing, I guess.
If
anything, everything is intensified in the war, you know, they keep upping the ante on both sides.
Yeah.
The other thing too is this brutal attack in Boulder, Colorado.
From what I understand and from what I remember,
I believe none of this was supposed to happen if Trump were president, right?
I'm just, I'm just bringing it up because everything that happened under Biden, it's because Biden was president and none of that would have happened if Trump were president and all these things, plane crashes, law and order president.
Yes.
Yeah, plane crashes.
Yeah, for some reason this is still happening and it's this time under Trump.
And it wasn't supposed to happen and none of this was supposed to happen day one the war right in Ukraine Yeah, was he's gonna stop it was gonna have that over in 24 hours Well, you know, I'm just trying to try to work this thing through remind
everybody
and then of course Joanie Ernst is out there telling me the truth finally and that we're all going to die And I don't think I don't think we're gonna make it the next four years here folks.
I'm a little depressed
Health and human services is a mess.
And we're big on health care.
We want universal health care in this country.
We talk about it often.
But health and human services ain't going to help.
It's outrageous.
And a big consumer beware, warning here.
If you start searching the government website for maybe health tips, you know, if you feel sick or if you want to, you know, track down a symptom of some sort, don't go to the government website.
Do not do that.
Don't bother.
It's going to be absolute nonsense driven by paranoia and conspiracy theories.
All right.
Like all of the other.
Trump unqualified suck-ups heading all the other departments, okay?
That's just my point of view on that.
RFK Jr.
is in a class of his own.
John Oliver pointed this out on his program on HBO.
Why don't we check this out?
This is John Oliver cut 20.
All right,
here we go.
I know there are some out there who still think, well, RFK is weird about vaccines, but he knows a lot about health related issues.
But you would be surprised by just how wildly wrong he can be when he is spouting alarming official sounding statistics.
We are 4.2%
of the world's population.
We buy 70% of the pharmaceutical drugs on earth.
15% of American youth are now on Adderall or some other ADHD medication.
When I was a kid, I always say this.
A typical pediatrician would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime.
Today, it's one out of every three kids who walks through his office door.
20 years ago, there was no diabetes in China.
Today, 50% of the population is diabetic.
So here's the
thing.
All the numbers you just heard him say are...
Americans don't buy 70% of the drugs on earth.
We buy around 6%.
15% of American youth aren't on ADHD meds.
Estimates put it closer to 5%.
1 in 3 kids don't have diabetes.
It's actually 0.35%, or 1 in 285 kids.
And the rate of diabetes in China is roughly 12%, not, as I think you already know, 50%.
of all the people in China do not have diabetes.
Just a little off
on
those
numbers.
You know, accuracy.
Again.
Just a concept.
All of those facts were wrong and they weren't really facts after all and this is the guy in charge of HHS
seriously.
All right.
Well, like he said a couple of weeks ago, don't take any medical advice from me.
Yeah,
he did say that.
That was one
true thing he
said.
So, you know, he's a partner in crime with the FDA commissioner, Marty McCary.
This guy appeared on television.
And he was with Margaret Brennan, and she grilled him, and she was really prepared for this interview.
Face the nation.
Yes, it's amazing.
This guy tried peddling anti-vax confusion, but Brennan wasn't gonna go along with any of that grilling him intensely.
Let's get to cut 18 in this case.
This is Margaret Brennan taking it, taking it to McCarry.
Let's listen.
Not to right now.
You just said, don't trust the CDC.
We're saying it's going to be between a doctor and a patient until that committee meets or more experts weigh in or we get some clinical data.
If there's zero clinical data, you're all pining.
I mean, it's a theory.
And so we don't want to put out an absolute recommendation for kids with no clinical data
support.
So you made this pronouncement as well on pregnant women.
There is data.
Researchers in the UK analyzed a series of 67 studies, which included 1.8 million women.
And the journal BMJ Global Health published it.
People can Google it at home.
And it says the COVID vaccine in pregnant women is highly effective in reducing the odds of maternal SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospital admission, and improves pregnancy outcomes with no serious safety concerns.
This is data that shows that it is recommended or could be advised for pregnant women.
to take this vaccine.
Why do you find otherwise?
There's no randomized control trial.
That's the gold standard.
Those 67 studies are mixed.
The data in pregnant women is different for healthy versus women with a comorbid condition.
So it's a very mixed bag.
So we're saying your obstetrician your primary care doctor and the pregnant woman should together decide whether or not to get it.
Wow.
12 percent of pregnant women last year got the covid shot.
So people have serious concerns and it's probably because they want to see a randomized trial data.
The randomized.
In the meantime, the world moves on.
And you published in the New England Journal of Medicine May 20th.
In that report you referenced, you listed pregnancy as an underlying medical condition that increases a person's risk for severe COVID.
You said that.
So then seven days later, you joined in this video announcement saying you should drop the recommendation for the COVID vaccine in healthy pregnant women.
So what changed in the seven days?
In the
New England Journal of Medicine, we simply list what the CDC has traditionally defined as high risk.
And we're just saying it.
Decide with your doctor.
We're not saying
the
other and the random
data information as well from you
and your.
So here's the data on pregnant women.
A randomized controlled trial was set up and it was closed without any explanation.
We wanted to see that trial complete so women can have information that in a randomized controlled trial which is the gold standard.
This is what the data shows.
We don't have those data.
All right.
It is still.
unclear
what
pregnant women now should do until they get the data that they
talk to their doctor.
When do they get the data you you're promising?
All these controlled studies.
In the absence of data they should talk to their doctor
and their doctor will use
their best wisdom and judgment.
I understand.
FDA
Commissioner, thank you.
Here's the thing, randomized studies, and they use placebos in those randomized studies.
Somebody gets just a placebo and the other gets the actual drug, but it harms people.
People who get the placebo...
It harms them.
They're human beings.
Really?
So we basically have stopped these randomized, the gold standard research only because it harms people.
And what they're doing now is they're going by old vaccines and they're comparing the new vaccines to the old ones.
They're not giving placebos that don't do anything.
They're using actual medicine that works, but they're actually trying to test that against better medicine.
improved medicine, improved vaccines.
So that's what we're really doing now.
And these guys want to go back to some gold standard, some kind of standard that we set in the 50s with placebos.
Let's do it.
the way they're doing it now, and that's comparing it to the current vaccines and making them better.
That's the whole point of this.
And you're supposed to ask your doctor, we're looking online, we're going to the government website to find out what's true or not true, what they recommend, and now they're not even gonna recommend anything, the only thing they're recommending is see a doctor.
I mean, that was a joke.
I mean, they've used this in humorous settings saying, well, you know, I'm a mechanic and everything, but I'm saying you should go to a mechanic and ask them.
You know, this is the most ridiculous nonsense ever.
I've got more cuts from McCary as well.
We'll be getting to that in just a few moments.
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There you go.
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And you'll notice that when we're listening to FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, he is...
He lacks confidence in the details and all of the research and everything that has been put forward on the HHS website for years right for decades none of that is true anymore.
There's a lot of false positives.
There's a lot of You know included data that no one's really sure about yeah, so we really can't be sure about any of this stuff anymore
Yeah, he's not very definite about anything.
I saw this interview on face the nation with Margaret Brennan
And yeah, he's very, very wishy-washy
going back and forth.
It's almost like, let's start over, you know, let's start over with RFK Jr.
and myself, which isn't giving us a lot of confidence at all.
Margaret Brennan, CBS is Margaret Brennan, continued the interview, trying to shift gears a little bit, going to Healthy Kids, who are still at risk.
She offered up proof, but...
McCary had this to say, this is cut 21.
Let's listen.
Okay.
So the CDC data said 41% of children aged six months to 17 years hospitalized with COVID between 2022 and 2024 did not have a known underlying condition.
In other words,
they looked healthy.
And
COVID was serious for them.
So first of all, we know the CDC data is contaminated with a lot of false positives from incidental positive COVID tests with routine testing of every kid that walks in the hospital.
When I go to the ICU, when I walk to the, we know that data historically under the Biden administration did not distinguish being sick from COVID or an incidental positive COVID test when you go to an ICU in America.
And you ask, how many people are in the
I see you that are healthy, that are sick with COVID.
The answer I get again and again is we haven't seen that in the year or years.
True.
OK.
Yeah.
OK.
OK, they haven't seen it in a long time.
You know what
I mean?
COVID is pretty
well contained because people get boosters.
Right.
But maybe just proved a point that he didn't want to prove.
So Brennan questioned why the HHS
bypassed the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, this policy shift.
Let's listen to this cut 22.
So on data and transparency, for decades, since 1964, it was the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ASIP, that went through this panel recommendation.
I mean, people watch these things during COVID, the report was then handed up.
It
offered debate, it offered transparency, and it offered data points that people could refer back to.
Why did you bypass all of this and just come down with a...
decision before the panel could meet and make that data.
That panel has been a kangaroo court where they just rubber stamp every single vaccine put in front of them.
If you look at the minutes of the report from they they even say we were generally want to move towards a risk stratified approach.
So why not let them do
that in June.
So in the meantime we don't want an absolute recommendation for healthy kids to get it.
They can do it and that committee committee will meet and make recommendations.
But you look at the minutes of the last couple years, they say, we want a simple message for everybody just so they can understand it.
It was not a data-based conversation.
It was a conversation based on marketing and ease.
And I've written an article titled, Why The People Don't Trust The CDC?
And it's in part from that blanket strategy.
You kind of tell
them not to right now.
You just said, don't trust the CDC.
We're saying it's going to be between a doctor and a patient until that committee meets, or more experts weigh in, or we get some clinical data.
Oh my god.
So anyway, I mean, you kind of get an idea here that you're not supposed to believe anything you've ever read at the HHS website or the CDC or any anybody's advice.
You're just supposed to go to the doctor who, by the way, is the guy who gets all that information from
the CDC and the HHS
website.
Yeah.
My head is spinning.
I'm about to explode.
There's a lot of tap dancing
going on, you know.
Oh yeah.
But
Margaret was trying
to, trying to, you know, get him to
calm, throw real facts in.
Get some real information.
Something practical, and he keeps saying, go see your doctor.
Yes.
Okay, let's get to, well, you know, the kangaroo court thing really, really caught my interest.
Yeah.
The kangaroo court.
Well, you know, because, you know, this commission, of course, they all got together, they made some decisions, but we got to bypass that.
We have the right
thing going here and that is RFK Junior's ideas about all this and we heard about, you know, his facts earlier with John Oliver.
So now, you know, Martin McCary is carrying on tradition of just throwing up anything he can just to make it seem like they don't know what they're doing and I don't know why the CDC and the FDA want to come across like they don't know what they're
doing.
Yeah, we've got more.
Oh, we've got a whole lot more coming up.
Stay with us for more of
John
and Gordy.
There you go now.
Yeah, we've still got another minute here.
That's OK.
That's our
old kangaroo court thing going, you know.
Mm hmm.
Oh, and I've got, this is a really big story and this is something that everybody has to really know about.
It is surveillance on Americans.
We're going to be getting to that.
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Now all that information is going to be poisoned and written in a way that is going to filter in through all of the other websites eventually.
But you can always talk to your doctor.
I mean that's the bottom line.
That's right.
There's lots of different information out there but talk to your doctor.
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All
right,
yeah, I wanted to close with this this part of the interview that says it all right at the end Margaret Brennan
going back and forth
she kind of had it Because you know it's talk to your doctor, you
know see your doctor see your doctor
I don't know why we even have the CDC FDA or HHS for this
for
all of this.
It seems like doctors check those websites
too.
Maybe you should just
close on
those websites.
It might cost taxpayers money, who knows.
But anyway, let's catch the last part of this.
This is again, trying to get a clear answer
on
where the FDA stands on the vaccines to save our lives.
Let's listen to this cut 23.
Can you clearly state what the policy is because this is confusing?
Yeah, we believe the recommendation should be with a patient and their doctor.
So we're gonna get away from these blanket recommendations in healthy young Americans because we don't wanna see, well on the COVID vaccine schedule, we don't wanna see kids kicked out of school because a 12 year old girl is not getting her fifth COVID booster shot.
We don't see the data there to support a young, healthy child getting a repeat infection
an annual COVID vaccine.
There's a theory that we should sort of blindly approve the new COVID boosters in young healthy kids every year in perpetuity.
And a young girl born today should get 80 COVID mRNAs.
Okay, I just want to interrupt
here.
They're not going to get 80 for the rest of their lives, these COVID boosters.
Because I assume that somewhere along the way.
Yeah.
We'll find a solution to this.
Hopefully medicine
will advance in 80 years or at least 20 years.
Or maybe 10.
We won't be
getting boosters every
year for the
next
80 years.
What an
idiot.
Okay, let's continue.
shots or other COVID shots in her average lifespan.
We're saying that's a theory and we'd like to check in and get some randomized controlled data.
It's been about four years since the original randomized trials.
So we'd like an evidence-based approach.
Dr. Persaud and I published this in the New England Journal of Medicine last week.
And we're basically saying we'd like to bring some confidence back to the public around this repeat booster strategy theory because
your statement was not about repeat boosters.
It says the vaccine is not
for pregnant women, the vaccine is not recommended for healthy children.
That's different than annual boosters.
Yeah, at this point, we're dealing, you know, it is a booster strata.
People would be getting the updated shot.
So whether or not a young, healthy, so we'd like to see the data.
We'd love to see that data doesn't exist
for a parent at home.
hearing you.
It's trying to make
sense.
We're saying take it back to your doctor.
If their
child has not been vaccinated, are you recommending that their first encounter with COVID be an actual infection?
We're not going to push the COVID shot in young, healthy kids without any clinical trial data supporting it.
That is a decision between a parent and their doctor.
And just so I don't know if you know these statistics, but
For 88% of American kids, their parents have said no to the COVID shot last season.
So America, the vast majority of Americans are saying no.
Maybe they wanna see some clinical data as well.
Maybe they have concerns about the safety.
I don't wanna
crowdsource my health guidance.
I want a clear thing,
right?
We don't
go with popularity.
As you're
saying data, when we get that data.
Yeah, so let's see the data.
Round
and round it goes.
Well, she said it point blank.
I don't want to crowdsource my care.
I
don't want to go buy what's popular.
What medical
advice?
That's what they're there for.
Yes.
So anyway, you can
tell.
Frustrating.
Just go see your doctor.
This is just an amazing answer from our own government who has done this research and has all these connections and all these people doing this kind of work, this very, very profound research.
Yeah, dedicated to it.
Of course.
And
just, you know.
It's between you and a doctor.
Okay,
well, we got that answer.
Okay, now, you know, RFK Jr.
had that MAHA report, right?
And it was filled with errors or reports that didn't exist and doctors who didn't work on any of those reports, right?
Yeah, the MAHA report, making America healthy again.
Yes.
So here is a web wisdom.
I thought I'd play this.
This is fantastic.
It tears through this, the excuse that remember Levitt.
Caroline Levin came out and said it was just this mishap happened because of formatting issues, okay?
Let's let's listen to this
Does the White House have confidence that the information coming from HHS can be trusted?
Yes, we have complete confidence in Secretary Kennedy and his team at HHS.
I understand there were some formatting issues with the MAHA report.
Not the White House press secretary giving the same excuse used by high school and college students across the country when they get caught cheating on their paper.
I don't know, I've written a lot of scientific papers in my life and exporting and downloading can cause some annoying formatting issues, but I've never had it just make up fake citations out of thin air.
In case you missed it, the MAHA commission report, which already contained methodological flaws and unsupported claims, was almost certainly partially written by CHAT GPT or another AI model.
Investigative journalists reviewed the citations and found numerous issues, including broken links and correct titles, and seven citations that were just completely made up.
The authors were real, the journals were real, but the papers didn't exist.
In fact, reporters contacted some of the listed authors who confirmed the paper cited is not a real paper.
Chatchapiti and other models hallucinate references all the time.
It's one of the ways professors catch students using AI to write their papers and it's a failing grade.
In many universities, it can lead to academic probation.
And in the legal world, it's gotten lawyers sanctioned in federal court for hallucinating case law.
AI does this because it's designed to generate language that sounds plausible and fulfill the user's request.
If your prompt is built on a flawed premise, the model will reinforce it, even if that means making up citations or misinterpreting the ones that do exist.
If you say, write me a section on how the overprescription of medications is causing childhood chronic disease, it won't
fact check that claim, it will just build a case even if the evidence isn't real.
These were not formatting issues.
They've since gone in and updated the report and removed the fake citations, but I have the original with the fake citations and the formatting is perfectly fine.
Formatting issues as every college student across the country should know does not cause hallucinated citations.
AI does that.
This was supposed to be gold standard science out of RFK Junior's radically transparent HHS, but it would be a failing grade in an undergraduate science course.
This is what happens when you sideline credible scientists and replace them with ideologically aligned operatives who aren't interested in genuine scientific inquiry.
You're interested in building a narrative and when that narrative can't be supported by real evidence, they'll use AI to fabricate a version that's just convincing enough to fool people who already want to believe it's true.
That's propaganda.
This report is largely AI generated propaganda, not science.
It's incredibly dangerous and it should concern anyone who actually cares about improving the health of our
Alright,
so that kind of clears up a whole bunch of stuff, doesn't it?
I mean, this person definitely knows what he's talking about, and it's something to just keep in mind that AI cannot do what...
A lot of people think it can do.
Now we have a couple of responses here.
Dee and Janesville, years ago in preparation for a trip, I watched my doctor check the CDC website for recommended vaccines for the area we were planning to travel to.
Yep, that's what they do.
That's why it's there.
And then Mark writes, so what happens when a healthy kid gets unhealthy after getting COVID, then
long COVID?
Yeah, all good points.
You can chime in 608-879-8255-608-879 talk.
You can also reach us on the text line.
That's
right.
And we have more here.
But yeah, this is a big story.
It's a data firm.
Palantir is building a detailed portrait of Americans and this is via the orders of Trump.
Trump wants this done.
The data analytics firm Palantir and by the way that name Palantir if it sounds familiar for people read Lord of the Rings it is the indestructible crystal
balds that they have in them, that they communicated with.
Sauron had one, as you might remember.
Anyway, that's a little scary all by itself, and a data analytics firm called Palantir is going to scare the daylights out of you.
They're building a master list of
Personal information on Americans that could give Trump immense surveillance power Palantir's product called Foundry is going into a four federal agencies including the Department of Homeland Security and HHS We were just talking about that the company has received also some contracts with the Pentagon and they're speaking now to Social Security and the IRS
to buy into that technology there.
So this is going to be completely, every department in our government is going to have the surveillance power.
Trump could use that personal information, of course, to punish critics.
Privacy advocates, student unions, and labor rights organizations have challenged the company's data access to the court.
So we'll see what happens on this, but my son told me that now the Megas.
are angry and complaining about Palantir collecting this personal data on them.
So we'll see what happens.
It's not always going to be Trump as president.
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Okay, now it's time to welcome our guest here, Liz Johnston, back into the studio.
She's from Serenity Pet Spa.
Good morning.
Good
morning, guys.
You've been busy.
You've been traveling.
You've been doing things.
You've been doing seminars.
Just give us an update.
What's that?
Spreading the word.
Doing all the things.
Yeah, no, I just got back from Kansas City.
I was down there for, I believe they call it, Heart of America Grooming Expo.
So, teaching some seminars for some people down in the Kansas, Missouri area.
Just young groomers that want to learn new things.
So we taught some tool seminars.
We taught some Scotty's Terrier things.
We taught some Doodle things.
Just, yeah, anything and everything.
I gather you travel a lot and do these kind of seminars, right?
Yes.
Usually, well, there's usually grooming expos at least one a month.
Some months have two, which is crazy.
But I teach it almost every one.
So I have another one the end of this month in Ohio.
I'll be teaching a couple seminars there as well.
Well, give me a feel for this because, you know,
Is this an industry that is starting to catch on catch fire because you know I think what your services are a very unique and and kind of advanced in many ways so Is this is this like an emerging trend?
I definitely have found it starting to get more popular, especially since COVID, because a lot of more people got dogs over COVID because they're home more.
And then, and yes, we all know that the doodle craze is kind of being really popular and those
are
very high maintenance dogs to get groomed.
There's still a major shortage and enough groomers, especially trained groomers out there.
But yeah, so it's good to see, I think, especially COVID obviously it dipped and we didn't have any shows for a year and we were all just like itching our skin because we couldn't
get
out of
our houses.
But I've definitely seen in the last few years, people are a little more willing to travel and they're getting out there.
They're learning things they want to learn.
They want the knowledge.
So it's really good to see these kind of younger groomers out there wanting to learn things.
Now you have some big news.
You're opening up a new location, right?
Yes.
A third
location.
Yes.
When is it
open?
So our goal is June 19th.
That might be a little bit...
Stretchy.
Okay.
Well, we're
okay.
But yeah, so it's, um, it's on junction road.
So it's, uh, we're calling it our Middleton location, even though it's still technically in Madison,
but
you can get real confusing having West location and far West.
So we decided we are going to call, so our DNR road is our West location.
We're calling this the Middleton.
Um, is that near the UW credit union?
Uh, yeah, it's
in that like strip bike.
If you go down the target, um, and then a little bit further down, there's some condos above it and it's like a strip mall.
like a couple,
there's a little
like med spas
and there's that
little float spot
and
all the things.
I check that out all the time.
So, but yeah, so it's a nice little, it's a neat little neighborhood.
It's a little closer to our Middleton clients and we have people that come in from like the Mesomania area across Plains, so that's a little closer for them.
I think Outback is across the street from that.
Yeah, I think
it's close.
I
feel like
that close.
But yeah, it's close, it's that, yeah, it's that area.
Yeah, there's like a jewelry store across the road.
But yeah, well, I'm transferring one of my master groomers over there.
So her and a couple of the other team members who we're just kind of running out of table space for at our West Salon.
I just have, I have a lot of great new people on my team that are super eager to learn to groom and they're doing great and they're learning so fast.
I'm just like, I'm running out of space.
So we're gonna open up.
So we got a little more room for.
Then, you know, the dogs that don't like the big crowds or the playful dogs.
So you're targeting that for June 60th or 19th?
19th.
Yes.
Okay.
That's the
goal.
Yes.
Yes.
And your other two locations are where?
So I have the one on O'Danah Road.
It's right at the corner of O'Danah Road and Research Park.
And then we have one off American Parkway on East Park.
It's behind that big snug Irish pub.
And that big two to layer bus we look at every day.
On St.
Patty's Day, you cannot park in our salon.
It's
terrible.
I just was listening on the way in and it was such a nice.
conversation as opposed to the rest of this show that was so sad and made
me angry and I'm confused.
Let's talk
about puppies.
Let's talk about puppies.
I wanted to call in and tell you that there are Falcons on top of MG&E.
Did you didn't hear it because you don't hear the flippin' news?
No.
But Savannah Tomei has a story about Falcons that have been born on top, four of them or three of them up there.
It's so adorable.
They're gonna live camp.
I'm going up there later anyway.
I think you should, but the serenity, oh my gosh, I'm so much.
Well, let me ask
you about, what is the service that people can expect when they go there?
Um, for Serenity, for sure.
Um, well, we definitely, we really try to cater to every dog's unique needs.
So yes, we have dogs that they just want to be in a little crate with their fluffy little bed
and
left alone and spoiled rotten.
Um, and then we have some that need like an hour of playtime before you're going to touch them because they're busy.
Don't touch me yet.
We want to play.
Um, so we have a real good variance being able to be kennel free, uh, that they can run around.
They can kind of make some friends.
They get some breaks in between their grooms.
So we don't ever have to force any dogs.
through something that it's not ready for, especially
when you're
talking like puppies or recent rescues that are just like, I don't understand this process.
You know, you got to think of a dog very similar to a toddler.
Like if they're freaking out and it's kind of irrational, you don't want to just force them through it.
You want to give them a chance to calm down, get their brain reset to a place where they can learn.
So we're able to do that when our dog's getting overwhelmed and take a step
back.
Yeah, we're less than a minute here, but.
Just remind everybody is you know where they can get the best information about what you offer and how to make appointments and all of that at your website
Yeah, we actually were we should have a new website launched in the next week or so
That's
a little bit easier to understand But we do have a new online booking system up which has been great and people are getting that a little bit better But it's serenity pet spa Madison comm and you can go on there and you can just select your location and get booked We don't have the Middleton one up
Yeah, but it should be the next week or
so so people
can start booking there.
And in the
meantime, we got room at Odana because the same groomer is going to be transferring over, so we have space for dogs
that can transfer.
Liz Johnson, thank you for coming in.
Thank you.
And we'll see you again next time.
See you now.
I'll be
here.
OK.
Hear
about the
new salon.
Yep.
Very good.
That's going to do it for us tomorrow on the show.
We will be talking to Mike McCabe, also Julie Bechler from Columbus Redbud.
They have a theater group there.
We're going to find out.
And
I would just want to say thank you from Trey out in St.
Prairie said I love Lord of the Rings, but I don't want it in my government.
We're talking about
Palantir and we'll probably hear
more about that as well.
Have a great day.
Stephanie Miller's next.
So long.
