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The other thing too is this brutal attack in Boulder, Colorado.
From what I understand and from what I remember,
I believe none of this was supposed to happen if Trump were president, right?
I'm just, I'm just bringing it up because everything that happened under Biden, it's because Biden was president and none of that would have happened if Trump were president and all these things, plane crashes, law and order president.
Yes.
Yeah, plane crashes.
Yeah, for some reason this is still happening and it's this time under Trump.
And it wasn't supposed to happen and none of this was supposed to happen day one the war right in Ukraine.
Yeah, was he's gonna stop it was gonna have that over in 24 hours Well, you know, I'm just trying to try to work this thing through
and then of course Joanie Ernst is out there telling these the truth finally and that we're all going to die And I don't think I don't think we're gonna make it the next four years here folks.
I'm a little depressed
Health and human services is a mess.
And we're big on health care.
We want universal health care in this country.
We talk about it often.
But health and human services ain't going to help.
It's outrageous.
And a big consumer beware, warning here.
If you start searching the government website
for
maybe health tips, you know, if you feel sick or if you want to, you know, track down a symptom of some sort, don't go to the government website, do not do that.
Don't bother.
It's going to be absolute nonsense driven by paranoia and conspiracy theories.
All right.
Like all of the other.
Trump unqualified suck-ups heading all the other departments, okay?
That's just my point of view on that.
RFK Jr.
is in a class of his own.
John Oliver pointed this out on his program on HBO.
Why don't we check this out?
This is John Oliver cut 20.
All right,
here we go.
I know there are some out there who still think, well, RFK is weird about vaccines, but he knows a lot about health related issues.
But you would be surprised by just how wildly wrong he can be when he is spouting alarming official sounding statistics.
We are 4.2%
of the world's population.
We buy 70% of the pharmaceutical drugs on earth.
15% of American youth are now on Adderall or some other ADHD medication.
When I was a kid, I always say this.
A typical pediatrician would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime.
Today, it's one out of every three kids who walks through his office door.
20 years ago, there was no diabetes in China.
Today, 50% of the population is diabetic.
So here's the thing.
All the numbers you just heard him say are...
Americans don't buy 70% of the drugs on earth.
We buy around 6%.
15% of American youth aren't on ADHD meds.
Estimates put it closer to 5%.
1 in 3 kids don't have diabetes.
It's actually 0.35%, or 1 in 285 kids.
And the rate of diabetes in China is roughly 12%, not, as I think you already know, 50%.
of all the people in China do not have diabetes.
So, you know, he's a partner in crime with the FDA commissioner, Marty McCary.
This guy appeared on television.
and he was with Margaret Brennan, and she grilled him, and she was really prepared for this interview.
Face the nation.
Yes, it's amazing.
This guy tried peddling and I've asked confusion, but Brennan wasn't gonna go along with any of that grilling him intensely.
Let's get to cut 18 in this case.
This is Margaret Brennan taking it, taking it to McCarry.
Let's listen.
Not to right now.
You just said, don't trust the CDC.
We're saying it's going to be between a doctor and a patient until that committee meets or more experts weigh in or we get some clinical data.
If there's zero clinical data, you're all pining.
I mean, it's a theory.
And so we don't want to put out an absolute recommendation for kids with no clinical data support.
So you made this pronouncement as well on pregnant women.
There is data.
Researchers in the UK analyzed a series of 67 studies, which included 1.8 million women.
And the journal BMJ Global Health published it.
People can Google it at home.
And it says the COVID vaccine in pregnant women is highly effective in reducing the odds of maternal SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospital admission, and improves pregnancy outcomes with no serious safety concerns.
This is data that shows that it is recommended or could be advised for pregnant women.
to take this vaccine.
Why do you find otherwise?
There is no randomized control trial.
That's the gold standard.
Those 67 studies are mixed.
The data in pregnant women is different for healthy versus women with a comorbid condition.
So it's a very mixed bag.
So we're saying your obstetrician, your primary care doctor, and the pregnant woman should together decide whether or not to get it.
12% of pregnant women last year got the COVID shot.
So people have serious concerns.
And that's probably because they want to see a randomized trial data.
The randomized trial in pregnant
women.
the world moves on.
And you published in the New England Journal of Medicine May 20th.
In that report you referenced, you listed pregnancy as an underlying medical condition that increases a person's risk for severe COVID.
You said that.
So then seven days later, you joined in this video announcement saying you should drop the recommendation for the COVID vaccine in
healthy
pregnant women.
So what changed in
the seven days?
In the New England Journal of Medicine, we simply list what the CDC has traditionally defined as high risk.
And we're just saying it.
decide with your doctor, we're not saying one way or the other.
But doctors like data and information as well
from you.
So here's the data on pregnant women.
A randomized controlled trial was set up and it was closed without any explanation.
We wanted to see that trial complete so women can have information that in a randomized controlled trial, which is the gold standard, this is what the data shows.
We don't have those data.
All
right.
It is still.
unclear what pregnant women now should do until they get the data
that you say talk to their doctor when
do they get the data you you're promising all these controlled studies
in the absence of data they should talk to their doctor and their doctor will use their best wisdom and judgment I understand
FDA
Commissioner, thank you.
Somebody gets just a placebo and the other gets the actual drug, but it harms people.
People who get the placebo...
It harms them.
They're human beings.
Really?
So we basically have stopped these randomized, the gold standard research only because it harms people.
And what they're doing now is they're going by old vaccines and they're comparing the new vaccines to the old ones.
They're not giving placebos that don't do anything.
They're using actual medicine that works, but they're actually trying to test that against better medicine.
improved medicine, improved vaccines.
So that's what we're really doing now.
And these guys want to go back to some gold standard, some kind of standard that we set in the 50s with placebos.
Let's do it.
the way they're doing it now and that's comparing it to the current vaccines and making them better.
That's the whole point of this.
And you're supposed to ask your doctor, we're looking online, we're going to the government website to find out what's true or not true, what they recommend.
And now they're not even gonna recommend anything, the only thing they're recommending is see a doctor.
I mean, that was a joke.
I mean, they've used this in humorous settings saying, well, you know, I'm a mechanic and everything, but I'm saying you should go to a mechanic and ask them.
You know, this is the most ridiculous nonsense ever.
I've got more cuts from McCary as well.
We'll be getting to that in just a few moments.
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He lacks confidence in the details and all of the research and everything that has been put forward on the HHS website.
for years, for decades.
None of that is true anymore.
There's a lot of false positives.
There's a lot of included data that no one's really sure about.
So we really can't be sure about any of this stuff anymore.
It's almost like, let's start over.
You know, let's start over with RFK Jr.
and myself, which isn't giving us a lot of confidence at all.
Margaret Brennan, CBS's Margaret Brennan, continued the interview, trying to shift gears a little bit, going to healthy kids who are still at risk.
She offered up proof, but McCary had this to say, this is cut 21.
Let's listen.
So the CDC data said 41% of children aged six months to 17 years hospitalized with COVID between 2022 and 2024 did not have a known underlying condition.
In other words,
they looked healthy.
And COVID was serious for them.
So first of all, we know the CDC data is contaminated with a lot of false positives from incidental positive COVID tests with routine testing of every kid that walks in the hospital.
When I go to the ICU, when I walk to the, we know that data historically under the Biden administration did not distinguish being sick from COVID or an incidental positive
COVID test when you go to an
ICU in America.
And you ask, how many people are in the
I see you that are healthy, that are sick with COVID.
answer I get again and again is we haven't seen that in the year or years.
True.
Yeah.
OK.
OK, they haven't seen it in a long time.
I mean, COVID is pretty well contained because people get boosters.
Right.
But maybe just proved a point that he didn't want to prove.
So Brennan questioned why the HHS bypassed the CDC's advisory committee on immunization practices.
This policy shift.
Let's listen to this cut 22.
So on data and transparency For decades since 1964 it was the advisory committee on immunization practices ASAP that went through this panel recommendation I mean people watch these things during COVID the report was then handed up
offered debate it offered transparency and it offered data Points that people could refer back to right.
Did you bypass all of this and just come down with a?
decision before the panel could meet and make that data.
That panel has been a kangaroo court where they just rubber stamp every single vaccine put in front of them.
If you look at the minutes of the report from they they even say we were generally want to move towards a risk stratified approach.
So why not let them do
that in June.
So in the meantime we don't want an absolute recommendation for healthy kids to get it.
They can do it and that committee committee will meet and make recommendations.
But you look at the minutes of the last couple years, they say, we want a simple message for everybody just so they can understand it.
It was not a data-based conversation.
It was a conversation based on marketing and ease.
And I've written an article titled, Why The People Don't Trust The CDC?
And it's in part from that blanket strategy.
So you kind of tell
them not to right now.
You just said, don't trust the CDC.
We're saying it's going to be between a doctor and a patient until that committee meets or more experts weigh in, or we get some clinical data.
So anyway, I mean you kind of get an idea here that you're not supposed to believe anything you've ever read at the HHS website or the CDC or any anybody's advice.
You're just supposed to go to the doctor who by the way is the guy who gets all that information from the CDC and the HHS website.
My head is spinning.
I'm about to explode.
There's a lot of tap dancing going on,
Get some real information.
Something practical, and he keeps saying, go see your doctor.
Yes.
Okay, let's get to, well, you know, the kangaroo court thing really, really caught my interest.
Yeah.
The kangaroo court.
Well, you know, because, you know, this commission, of course, they all got together, they made some decisions, but we got to bypass that.
We have the right
thing going here and that is RFK Junior's ideas about all this and we heard about, you know, his facts earlier with John Oliver.
So now, you know, Martin McCary is carrying on tradition of just throwing up anything he can just to make it seem like they don't know what they're doing and I don't know why the CDC and the FDA want to come across like they don't know what they're
Oh, no.
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and providing it to us as a public who is interested in this.
We'd like to know.
We can do our own research.
We go online and check this stuff out.
Now all that information is going to be poisoned and written in a way that is going to filter in through all of the other websites eventually.
Doctors have a direct line into the truth somehow.
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Can you clearly state what the policy is because this is confusing?
Yeah, we believe the recommendation should be with a patient and their doctor.
So we're going to get away from these blanket recommendations in healthy young Americans because we don't want to see, well on the COVID vaccine schedule, we don't want to see kids kicked out of school because a 12 year old girl is not getting her fifth COVID booster shot.
We don't see the data there to support a young, healthy child getting a repeat infection.
an annual COVID vaccine.
There's a theory that we should sort of blindly approve the new COVID boosters in young healthy kids every year in perpetuity.
And a young girl born today should get 80 COVID mRNAs.
Okay, I just want to interrupt
Hopefully medicine
shots or other COVID shots in her average lifespan.
We're saying that's a theory and we'd like to check in and get some randomized controlled data.
It's been about four years since the original randomized trials.
So
we'd like an evidence-based approach.
Dr. Persaud and I published this in the New England Journal of Medicine last week.
And we're basically saying we'd like to bring some confidence back to the public around this repeat booster strategy theory because
your statement was not about repeat boosters.
It says the vaccine is not
for pregnant women, the vaccine is not recommended for healthy children.
That's different than annual boosters.
Yeah, at this point, we're dealing, you know, it is a booster strata.
People would be getting the updated shot.
So whether or not a young, healthy, so we'd like to see the data.
We'd love to see that.
No, no, no, but on a practical level
for a parent at home.
hearing you.
It's trying to make
sense.
We're saying take it back to your doctor.
If their
child has not been vaccinated, are you recommending that their first encounter with COVID be an actual infection?
We're not going to push the COVID shot in young healthy kids without any clinical trial data supporting it.
That is a decision between a parent
and their doctor.
And just so I don't know if you know these
statistics, but
For 88% of American kids, their parents have said no to the COVID shot last season.
So America, the vast majority of Americans are saying no.
Maybe they wanna see some clinical data as well.
Maybe they have concerns about the safety.
I don't wanna crowdsource
my health guidance.
I want a clear thing,
right?
We don't
go with popularity.
As you're
saying data,
when
we get that data.
Yeah, so let's
see the
data.
advice?
Yes.
So anyway, you can tell.
Frustrating.
Just go see your doctor.
This is just an amazing answer from our own government who has done this research and has all these connections and all these people doing this kind of work, this very, very profound research.
Yeah, dedicated
Does the White House have confidence that the information coming from HHS can be trusted?
Yes, we have complete confidence in Secretary Kennedy and his team at HHS.
I understand there were some formatting issues with the MAHA report.
Not the White House press secretary giving the same excuse used by high school and college students across the country when they get caught cheating on their paper.
I don't know, I've written a lot of scientific papers in my life and exporting and downloading can cause some annoying formatting issues, but I've never had it just make up fake citations out of thin air.
In case you missed it, the MAHA commission report, which already contained methodological flaws and unsupported claims, was almost certainly partially written by ChatGPT or another AI model.
Investigative journalists reviewed the citations and found numerous issues, including broken links and correct titles, and seven citations that were just completely made up.
The authors were real, the journals were real, but the papers didn't exist.
In fact, reporters contacted some of the listed authors who confirmed the paper cited is not a real paper.
Chatchapiti and other models hallucinate references all the time.
It's one of the ways professors catch students using AI to write their papers, and it's a failing grade.
In many universities, it can lead to academic probation.
And in the legal world, it's gotten lawyers sanctioned in federal court for hallucinating case law.
AI does this because it's designed to generate language that sounds plausible and fulfill the user's request.
If your prompt is built on a flawed premise, the model will reinforce it, even if that means making up citations or misinterpreting the ones that do exist.
If you say, write me a section on how the overprescription of medications is causing childhood chronic disease, it won't fact check that claim.
It will just build a case.
even if the evidence isn't real.
These were not formatting issues.
They've since gone in and updated the report and removed the fake citations.
But I have the original with the fake citations and the formatting is perfectly fine.
Formatting issues as every college student across the country should know does not cause hallucinated citations.
AI does that.
This was supposed to be gold standard science out of RFK Junior's radically transparent HHS, but it would be a failing grade in an undergraduate science course.
This is what happens when you sideline credible scientists and replace them with ideologically aligned operatives who aren't interested in genuine scientific inquiry.
You're interested in building a narrative, and when that narrative can't be supported by real evidence, they'll use AI to fabricate a version that's just convincing enough to fool people who already want to believe it's true.
That's propaganda.
This report
is largely AI-generated propaganda, not science.
It's incredibly dangerous and it should concern anyone who actually cares about improving the health of our kids.
I mean this person definitely knows what she's talking about and it's something to just keep in mind that AI cannot do what
A lot of people think it can do.
Now we have a couple of responses here.
Dee and Janesville, years ago in preparation for a trip, watch my doctor check the CDC website for recommended vaccines for the area we were planning to travel to.
Yep, that's what they do.
That's why it's there.
And then Mark writes, so what happens when a healthy kid gets unhealthy after getting COVID, then long
It's a data firm.
Palantir is building a detailed portrait of Americans and this is via the orders of Trump.
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We were just talking about that.
The company has received also some contracts with the Pentagon and they're speaking now to Social Security and the IRS to buy into that technology there.
So this is going to be completely...
Every department in our government is going to have the surveillance power.
Trump could use that personal information, of course, to punish critics.
Privacy advocates, student unions, and labor rights organizations have challenged the company's data access to the court.
So we'll see what happens on this, but my son told me that now the Megas.
are angry and complaining about Palantir collecting this personal data on them.
So we'll see what happens.
It's not always going to be Trump as
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Okay, now it's time to welcome our guest here, Liz Johnston, back into the studio.
She's from Serenity Pet Spa.
Good morning.
Good
morning, guys.
things.
Yeah, no, I just got back from Kansas City.
I was down there for, I believe they call it, Heart of America Grooming Expo.
teaching some seminars for some people down in the Kansas, Missouri area.
young groomers that want to learn new things.
So we taught some tool seminars.
We taught some Scotty's Terrier things.
We taught some Doodle things.
Just, yeah, anything and everything.
Usually, well, there's usually grooming expos at least one a month.
Some months have two, which is crazy.
But I teach it almost every one.
So I have another one the end of this month in Ohio.
I'll be teaching a couple of seminars there as well.
I definitely have found it starting to get more popular, especially since COVID, because a lot of more people got dogs over COVID because they're home more.
And yes, we all know that the doodle craze is kind of being really popular and those
are
very high maintenance dogs to get groomed.
There's still a major shortage and enough groomers, especially trained groomers out there.
But yeah, so it's good to see.
I think, especially COVID obviously it dipped and we didn't have any shows for a year and we were all just itching our skin because we couldn't
get
out of
our houses.
But I've definitely seen in the last few years, people are a little more willing to travel and they're getting out there.
They're learning things they want to learn.
They want the knowledge.
So it's really good to see these kind of younger groomers out there wanting to learn things.
location.
Yes.
open?
So our goal is June 19th.
That might be a little bit stretchy.
Okay.
so it's on Junction Road.
So we're calling it our Middleton location, even though it's still technically in Madison,
you can get real confusing having West location and Far West.
So we decided we are gonna call, so our DNR road is our West location.
We're calling this the Middleton.
in that like strip, like if you go down the target and then a little bit further down, there's some condos above it and it's like a strip mall.
a couple,
little like med spa.
and there's that
little float spot
and all
the things.
I check that out all the time.
So, but yeah, so it's a nice little, it's a neat little neighborhood.
It's a little closer to our Middleton clients and we have people that come in from like the Mesomania area across Plains, so that's a little closer for them.
it's close.
feel like
But yeah, it's close, it's that, yeah, it's that area.
Yeah, there's like a jewelry store across the road.
yeah, well, I'm transferring one of my master groomers over there.
So her and a couple of the other team members who we're just kind of running out of table space for at our West Salon.
I just have, I have a lot of great new people on my team that are super eager to learn to groom and they're doing great and they're learning so fast.
I'm just like, I'm running out of space.
So we're gonna open up.
So we got a little more room for.
Then, you know, the dogs that don't like the big crowds of the playful dogs.
That's the
So I have the one on O'Danah Road.
It's right at the corner of O'Danah Road Research Park.
And then we have one off American Parkway on East Park.
It's behind that big snug Irish pub.
And that big two to layer bus we look at every day.
On St.
Patty's Day, you cannot park in our salon.
It's
terrible.
I just was listening on the way in and it was such a nice.
conversation as opposed to the rest of this show that was so sad and made
Let's talk about poppies.
I wanted to call in and tell you that there are Falcons on top of MG&E.
Did you didn't hear it because you don't hear the flippin' news?
No.
But Savannah Tomei has a story about Falcons that have been born on top.
Four of them or three of them up there.
It's so adorable.
They're gonna live camp.
should, but the serenity, oh my gosh, I'm so much.
Well, let
Um, for Serenity for sure.
Um, well, we definitely, we really try to cater to every dog's unique needs.
So yes, we have dogs that they just want to be in a little crate with their fluffy little bed
and
left alone and spoiled rotten.
Um, and then we have some that need like an hour of playtime before you're going to touch them because they're busy.
Don't touch me yet.
We want to play.
Um, so we have a real good variance being able to be kennel free, uh, that they can run around.
They can kind of make some friends.
They get some breaks in between their grooms.
So we don't ever have to force any dog through.
something that it's not ready for, especially when you're talking like puppies or recent rescues that are just like, I don't understand this process.
You know, you got to think of a dog very similar to a toddler.
Like if they're freaking out and it's kind of a rational, you don't want to just force them through it.
You want to give them a chance to calm down, get their brain reset to a place where they can learn.
So we're able to do that when our dog's getting overwhelmed and take a step
Yeah, we actually were we should have a new website launched in the next week or so
a little bit easier to understand But we do have a new online booking system up which has been great and people are getting that a little bit better But it's serenity pet spa Madison comm and you can go on there and you can just select your location and get booked We don't have the Middleton one up
Yeah, but it should be the next week or
can start booking there.
meantime, we got room at Odana because the same groomer is going to be transferring over, so we have space for dogs
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