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WMDX, 92.7, John and Gordy in the morning.
That's Proctor and Bergman.
I remember them.
It's an old bit that they did along the time.
They were very big in underground radio at the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where are they now?
Yeah, where are they now?
Haven't heard from it a long time.
They were they were
pretty good though.
Yeah, I love their stuff.
Very good.
Seven minutes past six.
It's another rainy start this morning across our area.
Some drizzles, some showers at times today.
The morning temperature, according to the WMDX thermometer right outside our window over State Street, is 44 degrees.
Oh, really?
Do you have your Samsung WMDX watch going?
I do.
The WMDX official Samsung Weather Watch says it's about 45 degrees right now.
Okay.
And a prediction of 50 degree high.
All
right.
There you
go.
Well, let's see.
Which one of that
62% chance of rain today 62%
right
now we have a like a hundred
percent.
It's raining.
It's drizzling and raining.
Yeah.
What do you think the afternoon high would be on one of our devices that we've crafted over the last month?
What are we going to use here?
What are we going to do?
How about the one arm banded?
Can we do that?
Yeah.
Yeah, the one arm banded.
First number coming up zero four.
Nine, 49.
Wow.
That's the jackpot.
That's fast.
So you said 50.
Yeah.
It said 49.
So it's right in that range.
It's pretty close.
We'll have
to oil up that machine
as close as it gets.
All right.
Now, here it is Wednesday.
A little bit later on, Mike McCabe will be joining us and sub-stack blogger and author of Miracles Along County Q.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
He's got some commentary having to do with farmers
and the
stereotype of farmers, but they're pretty independent people.
Stereotypes don't fit most of the time.
Yeah.
You're right.
They don't.
We've been told Mike has made a point of
of that whole issue, right?
I mean, there are a lot of stereotypes.
We got to call her once saying that they're bigots, racists, you know, they love Trump, but that's a stereotype that shouldn't be really the point when we talk about farmers.
Exactly.
Well, Mike will be here in a little while
to explain all this.
And I will disagree with him.
You don't have to disagree with him.
I mean, it's not
No, I'm not in there.
It's not like I'm a contrarian here, right?
Well, yeah, okay.
Maybe I am, but
I
don't disagree with him.
Good morning to producer Sam.
Good morning.
Just to create topics.
And producer Dominic.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good to see you back again.
I guess everything's working out okay.
You just sleep
sleeping on the floor at your new apartment.
Yep.
Day three of sleeping on the floor.
Oh my God.
Back is still hurting.
Back
is still hurting.
Is it in the living room?
I mean do you have a carpet down or a blanket or something?
A
sleeping bag?
He's got blankets.
I don't even have, I have one blanket and one pillow.
And it's a crusty-looking pillow.
Wow.
It's not the best.
See, you should have saved that little sling bed that you had when you
moved it.
Talking the bloody cot that was in his basement.
Yes, the bloody cot.
Yeah, I decided to get rid of it.
It
was unsightly.
Well, I hope you could
have been used as evidence, you know, if they did some kind of murder search somewhere in your neighborhood.
Adam, you do intend to get some furniture, right?
I mean, you got, you know, eventually get a few sticks of furniture.
Yeah, I think we're looking at getting some, you know, a bookcase today.
Yeah.
Okay.
Still waiting on that bed, though.
Okay.
But I think what's going to help me is hippie Christmas.
I don't know exactly when that is.
I think it's right now.
Is it over with now?
Oh, if
it's over with, then
I'm... All the students are gone, so I think hippie Christmas is all
over.
It never truly ends, John.
You can always find some free furniture on the side of the road in Madison.
That's true because a lot of the students go away, but they come back over the weekend and...
They're
out a little bit.
They
do have leases till August, so it's August to August usually.
You can always find a good blank mattress that's just ripe for spray
painting.
Yeah.
Yes, Dom, don't let them spray paint your mattress first.
All right.
All right.
So we do the national day calendar one more time.
We decide to do we decide to kill you guys.
Well, let's kill it.
We can't tell if you guys hate it or if you love it.
You go back and forth all the time.
You have a love hate relationship with this
thing.
I don't know.
I
think we should just kill it.
Just kill it.
It's dead.
You don't want to do it?
No.
You want to do
it?
No.
OK.
So
you
don't want to do it?
You know, we should... What do you think?
You're asking if I
want to do it?
I don't care.
My opinion doesn't matter.
I'm on the way out of here.
I was going to say, if you're going to get rid of it, we should throw it into the dumpster fire that we got going.
Oh, yeah.
There it is.
Oh, yeah.
That's
it.
We filled it up with hippie
crystals.
Do
we have
our dumpster fire music?
Did you keep that?
Anywhere?
No.
It's buried somewhere I have to go.
It's buried.
Okay, never mind.
I wasn't expecting to start the dumpster fire on a Wednesday.
Usually it's a Friday sort of thing.
Okay.
Well, what events on the calendar are we throwing into the dumpster fire today?
Well,
we would have talked about National Juice Slush Day.
I know that's a big one for you.
Yes.
National Waitstaff Day.
That would have been something to talk about.
A weighty staff?
Waitstaff.
Oh, the waiters.
Waiters.
Waiters.
Okay,
waiters.
Okay, waitress.
The weighty staff.
The weighty staff.
National strawberries and cream day, we would have talked about that.
Yeah.
So those are all the things we would have talked about.
Oh, gee, that's too bad.
What about birthdays and historical things?
Are we going to throw that out too?
Sam, what do you think?
You want to keep that going after you leave?
Look at all the work you do.
We have an outline here in the
studio and we put a lot of work into this outline.
You're darn right I did, John.
Let's do a little bit
of that
and then
we'll get to something else.
What
do we got to open the book come on?
No, we gotta dial it up dial it up dial up the Kindle version.
Okay,
fine.
Here
we go
If we could, you know, I'd have a few extra years of life, but didn't have to go through that.
If you spent, if you didn't spend all that time waiting for the connection, there was a big chance.
Just
serious.
Okay.
Oh.
Well,
what happened on this date in history?
1881.
The American Red Cross was founded.
Oh boy.
I believe it was founded in Europe first, but came to America on this day.
Okay.
All right.
I thought this was kind of funny.
Today in 1901, Connecticut became the very first state to set a speed limit for motor vehicles 12 miles an hour in the city.
12.
15 miles an hour on country
roads.
We're going back to that,
by the way.
At
least in Madison.
Right.
God,
yeah.
So much for 20 is plenty.
They're just going to keep going lower and lower.
I know.
I
know.
Okay
today in 1927 you would have seen half of this yesterday if you right you looked at the outline I did yesterday Charles Lindbergh he began his first transatlantic flight and today He completed it.
He completed it.
He got there
You ever see the movie with Jimmy Stewart?
It was Jimmy Stewart, right?
Oh yeah, there's a movie about that.
It was Jimmy Stewart's birthday yesterday, too.
Oh, what a coincidence.
You would have looked at the outline.
Ouch.
We should have
covered the outline.
I'm
not angry about it.
No.
Well, you have another aviation story.
That's right.
Five years later to the day, Amelia Earhart also flew transatlantic across the ocean.
The first woman to do so.
five years after Charles
Lindbergh.
This was some news to me, I'd never heard of this, the flavor saver.
This was supposedly a variety of tomato.
The very first GMO approved for sale in
grocery stores.
Oh, oranges.
No, that doesn't make any sense.
He was an orange tomato, yeah.
No, a genetically modified organism, I believe, is what GMO stands for.
Genetically modified food.
And now it's in tons of different stuff.
Well, yeah, but they have a lot of different varieties
of
GMO tomatoes.
Some are better, some are worse.
They get a bad rap.
They're not all bad.
Yeah, it's not all bad.
It's just that some European countries ban that stuff.
Well, that can't be bad for us, right?
Well, yeah, no.
Here's the thing, you know, having grown up through the 50s and watched a lot of those old horror movies, you know, a lot of it was based on atomic monsters.
Monsters that were infected by atoms that make them grow large.
And I'm just thinking, you know, these GMO tomatoes, you
never know.
We were afraid.
that they would grow legs and maybe get large and attack people.
I'm
waiting for that to happen.
Wasn't there a
movie?
Some kind of attack of the killer tomatoes, right?
I think so, yeah.
I believe so.
Yeah, I think that was a movie.
So that was one of the
fears with GMOs.
Oh
my God, it is an actual movie, 1978, how about that?
Yes, there you go.
See, we wouldn't
lie to you.
No.
I'm sure you wouldn't.
A few birthdays today, Fats Waller, 1904, Mr. T, born in 1952.
Pity the fool.
Yep, pity
the fool.
Actually, no, not Wisconsin's own.
Famous for what he did in Wisconsin.
Jeffrey Dahmer.
He was born on this day.
It's also Biggie Smalls birthday.
Oh, yeah, Biggie Smalls.
Big fans.
Biggie fans.
Biggie fans.
Biggie.
Yep.
That's it.
Wasn't that
all?
Yeah, that's what we got.
A Biggie Rat.
We
don't care.
Okay.
There was a character in a cartoon show called Biggie Rat.
Okay.
I don't remember that, but yeah,
I mean there's actually no in Ratatouille.
There's a character called Biggie Cheese.
He's a big rat.
I can't remember
what Biggie Rat is from.
Biggie Rat and something brother.
Big brother.
I can't remember.
All this time left over here now.
I'll
do
the National Day calendar.
Well, I hope you guys are
happy.
Let's just kind of sit back and
Put our feet up.
You know what, I want to find out a little bit more about Dominic here.
Dominic, step right up here and you, you know what?
Yeah.
I don't think you've revealed it yet.
Yeah.
But I have this uncanny ability to guess people's middle names.
Yeah, she's so good at it.
Do we
have
any mysterious music or anything, Sam?
Yeah.
Pull it up.
Sure, find it.
We had a booth at the fair.
Now, we know you're last anything.
It doesn't matter.
All right, the first name is Dominic.
The last name is Lee, right?
Right.
Correct.
Well, you don't know the L. What's in the middle?
Okay,
now just,
okay.
First letter is, let me think, let me think.
He had a booth of the Dells.
First letter, I'll bet this is right.
B, right?
Correct.
Okay.
C. That's that A.
That's really good.
That's really, really good.
Really?
Okay.
Let's see.
Second letter is... What are you reading?
What are you looking at?
O. Is that right?
Correct.
Your middle name wow Bob not bow.
No, it's not Bob.
It's it's I It's coming to me now.
It's Boris.
Oh my Gosh, what you got it?
Boris
Dominic
Boris Lee.
I like it.
You hit it right on the tail.
Okay, thank you.
That was impressive.
How did you do that?
I have this uncanny ability.
I have superpowers.
You look through my records?
No?
No.
I look through your wallet while you're... Don't leave your wallet around.
It's gone now.
Oh, hey, guess what?
When we come back, we'll have a lot more of Janet Gordy in the morning, right around the corner.
Stay with us.
Yeah, Boris.
I like that name.
Across this great nation, almost everyone has been affected in one way or another by this terrible tomato onslaught.
Mrs. Williams, I understand your husband is missing.
Do you think
he's dead?
Will
you miss
him?
Will you marry again?
You will have to find another man, you know.
You're no spring chicken.
Lives are shattered.
The nation is in chaos.
Death and destruction sweeps the country.
Poor square productions pretend perhaps the funniest film ever made.
Attack of the killer tomato!
Attack, attack!
Of the killer tomatoes.
You've never seen a film like it.
This is the incredible story of the world's ultimate disaster.
vicious man-eating-tomatoes row to monstrous proportions.
I told ya.
I got it.
Facing with his unprecedented menace, the president calls upon Mason Dixon, special agent.
Paided by his trusty sidekick, Dixon begins to unravel the terrifying mystery of the deadly tomatoes.
Dixon is getting close, too close for someone, or something.
Now, who could it be?
The girl's reporter?
The ad executive?
The press secretary?
Or does it go higher?
Join Mason and Dixon in a race against time as he battles to save the world from the threat of nature's perfect heating machine.
Okay, okay, that's so uh a
track of the
killer perfect killing machine.
Yes Wow
Yeah,
that's what I always think of when I look at a tomato.
What was that movie out 78 1978 We grew up with you know gigantic atomic spiders,
you know
the attack of the 50-foot woman.
Yeah the blob Colossus
Yeah.
You know, the one I bought a Cyclop guy, you
know,
100 feet of the swamp, monsters, swamp.
And of course, you know, there's
always
the Japanese monster movie.
Oh,
those were great.
Yeah.
Mothra
and Godzilla.
What was the movie that Woody Allen bought and then completely changed the plot of the movie and, you know, added English dialogue to the Japanese movie?
Oh, yeah, yeah, I can't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll have to dig for that one.
Yeah, so yeah, it's what's up tiger Lily.
Oh, that's it.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it
Great stuff.
So we grew up, you know thinking that
You know, science will create giant monsters that'll kill us.
Right.
And GMO is just one of those opportunities.
Yes.
Mark says that there was a Huckleberry Hound episode about a potato that not only had eyes, but that the potato had a brain, then grew legs and arms and went huge and went on a rampage after seeing what we do to spuds.
Wow.
Holy cow.
Huckleberry hound episode.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
We got to find that episode.
Yeah.
Now we got to do some more digging.
Okay.
That's pretty
good.
I mean, you know, that's the culture at the time, you know, Huckleberry hound and,
uh,
and, uh, and, uh, Elkabong.
Elkabong.
Yes.
That's right.
Elkabong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Tripping down memory lane.
Okay.
Let's, uh, and Yogi Bear.
Oh, Yogi and Boo Boo?
Yeah.
Hey, Boo Boo!
Yep.
You know, it's funny because...
What's going on, Yogi?
Well You know it was great stuff, you know having those cartoons back then because they were able to make cartoons very quickly They had the technology they developed technology to make these cartoons very fast They
did kind of create
they had kind of a static frame, but they move just maybe the head on one character
and It's like a comic strip of voices.
It's hardly a cartoon, right?
They were very
cheaply made well, it's not clutch cargo
Clutch cargo was great.
Just the lips moved.
I know those
are human lips.
It's a really creepy stuff.
But I don't know how they did that actually.
It was really weird.
I don't know how they did it either.
It
was very surreal.
But later on, you might remember Ren and Stimpy.
Very edgy cartoons, right?
Chris Falluccia, I believe, did those cartoons.
But they came out with new episodes of Yogi Bear.
That had a lot of edge and we're very very creepy
Yogi bear.
Yeah.
Yeah, they had newer episodes of Yogi bear and things
didn't
turn out real well for the
Ranger Smith
Ranger Smith.
Yeah
Anyway, they're eyes are glazing.
You know Gen Z takes a lot to keep their attention right losing their minds in there.
Okay
Coming up in a little while we're going to talk with Mike McCabe.
He'll be in here.
He's got a new sub-stack blog.
Yes, we'll be talking to him about that.
We'll be talking about George Went, who passed away.
Right.
Yeah, age of 76.
We've got that.
And we've got another look at the Big Bad Bill.
Now, yesterday, we took a look at it, found some new things that we have to talk about in the Big Bad Bill.
Do not ever say what they want you to
say about it.
Beautiful.
Yeah, it's not.
It's
not beautiful.
My God.
I tell you what, if you hear anybody that you know who's pro-democracy, hit them in the face, wake
them
up, tell them, don't
ever say that
about that bill
ever
again.
All
right.
We'll keep that in mind.
Oh, here it is.
Don't forget Woody Allen's movie, everything you wanted to know about sex
with the giant
breast
attacking people.
I remember that.
Is that the one
with
the sperm too?
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
All right, Mark.
Thank you.
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Just getting going on a Wednesday morning.
Well, I know.
We've got
radiocracy coming up.
Yep.
Right around the corner.
Little rain out there and everything.
So it's a... Grab the umbrella
before you head out.
And check for those
new windshield wipers because you're going to need something.
Yeah.
Like that this summer.
Raincoat.
Back with more of John Gordy in the morning.
Idiocracy is next.
Stay with
us.
As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything.
That could be considered a rational thought.
Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you
go and do something like this.
We can duck and cover.
There's a fallout shelter right there.
There's no way to survive this, you idiot!
Idiocracy.
For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.
Mm-hmm.
Idiocracy.
Yeah.
Oh, there's so many things to get to.
WMDX, 92.7.
It's John Peterson, Gordy Young in the morning, along with producer Sam and Dom.
It is 6.36.
It's cloudy.
It's going to be raining off and on today.
More scattered showers moving through and right now 44 degrees.
Highs close to 50 today.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Idiocracy.
What do we got?
Well, what do we have?
Well, I got a call yesterday from my mega friend in Milwaukee.
Oh, no.
Really?
No, I did.
Don't you get a call every day from him?
Yeah, well, actually, I do get a call every day.
Some of those calls, and well, some don't.
Shouting matches.
Boy.
You know, you can't get through to these people at all.
Well, you gotta be happy at least that you are the chosen one to him, John.
He chooses you to talk to about this.
Yes, yes, he does.
How can you be friends if you argue every day?
Well, how can you possibly still maintain that friendship?
He
talks about our past a little bit.
He kind of intersperses that information in, and it makes the conversation move along.
Yet, yet he does bring up mega...
material.
Now remember, I mentioned the other day that he admitted that he is a cult member, that he is part of the cult.
He was okay with that.
He's proud of being part of the cult.
Okay.
And as we were talking, he was talking about
Biden's health.
You know, they're really preoccupied with the secret, the cover-up of Joe Biden's condition, right?
And now with the prostate cancer diagnosis, oh boy, how come we didn't know about that before?
Yeah.
Right?
Now, he is just energized by all of this ridiculousness.
And he mentioned that with this cover-up, that must mean that somebody else was in control of the White House.
Sure.
Someone was in control, not Joe Biden, even though I remember a few really great moments of Joe Biden, you know, and it was recent.
Didn't he address the entire Congress at one time and just laid into him and had a conversation with a lot of idiots who were shouting at him?
I remember that, yes.
Yeah, well, you know, he had it together.
He did.
Okay, we didn't hide too much there.
All right, so anyway, he's wondering who's in control of the White House.
And I said, well,
Do you ever think, maybe, who's in control of the Trump White House?
We know that the idiot, the orange idiot, does not have control of anything.
He doesn't know what's going on.
We've seen it at interviews.
He's been asked by reporters, do you have an impression of this or what made you think of that?
And he had no idea.
He didn't know these things were
happening.
His answer is, I don't know.
So I brought up to him.
I said, do you think maybe...
The guy that came up with Project 2025 may be the guy who's in control of the White House at this point because he has more at stake than anybody during the Biden administration.
And what did your mega friend have to say about that?
He started laughing at it and started telling me I was an idiot and a racist.
Racism always pops up.
They don't see color, but they always bring up racism.
Anyway, I mentioned it was, you know, the Heritage Foundation's Russell vote, right?
He is the guy who wrote a project 2025.
He's actually in charge behind the scenes at the White House.
He's controlling everything.
He's the guy who came up with the executive orders that Trump signed.
Is that right?
Right?
I mean, they're all written out.
Yeah.
Everything done.
Oh, yeah.
They had them ready to go.
Page
after page
after
page.
And you're sending their sign in.
And of course, they're explaining what is on the page every time they give up.
In executive order.
Yeah.
Well, this is
going to do this.
Oh, OK.
I'll sign it.
OK.
So Russell Vode is in charge of the White House.
And every time these guys, like my mega friend, when they come up and they accuse us of something, it's projection.
It's always projection.
They're wondering who's in charge of the White House because they know who's in charge of the White House.
It ain't the Orange God.
It's somebody else, right?
Pulling the
strings.
See, I thought all this time it was Stephen Miller.
behind
the seats.
Oh, no,
no, no.
Russell vote.
Stephen Miller is a nervous crazy
man.
I know he is.
Wow.
Yeah.
I actually enjoy
watching him
when he just starts melting down as soon as a reporter starts to pin him down
on
something.
Then he just goes off.
Crazy.
Yeah, he's completely loses.
I'm waiting for the next James Bond because I know that they're gonna have a cameo Stephen
Miller
in that movie somewhere He's crazy.
Yeah, but anyway, I mean we're looking at at at somebody else in control writing up the executive orders and Controlling the White House and you know what that does and we see this all the time.
I've got proof
that that's what's happening.
Somebody else is in control because this leaves all the time in the world for Trump to go after his enemies.
That's all he's doing now, right?
He's grifting.
He's got new product lines.
He's raising Bitcoin.
He's got an insatiable hunger for praise, right?
He's still selling the Bibles, I think, too.
Well, probably.
I think they rewrote one of the passages in the Bible, which wait till they discover that.
And of course, he wants to be accepted.
He wants to be part of the lineup of dictators in the world, right?
And he's really strong boys.
He working on that, right?
So that is really what Trump is able to focus on.
And now, of course, what they're doing is they're arresting representatives in Congress.
They're arresting mayors.
They're arresting judges.
They're going after the Supreme Court, ripping into them now.
So where does it end that this is this is.
Trump's job.
All the rest destroying the country, taking down departments, taking away all of the research and development we have in this country, all of that's gone away.
And now we're not even going to help people in major natural disasters anymore.
I mean, that, in fact, I can't even wrap my head around that.
Getting rid of FEMA.
Okay, we got some problems with FEMA.
Maybe they're a little slow sometimes to make a few mistakes, but that's...
human nature.
Yeah, cutting
back at the National Weather Service and NOAA,
you know,
we've got to hear in the storm season
now.
We're not getting
coverage as much as we get.
They have to get higher part-timers, you know.
Uber drivers maybe to go in there and help out NOAA and see if they can't, you know, warn people about tornadoes ripping through their cities in the middle of the night.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's
So that's my big first story for Idiocracy.
Very good.
I'm seeing all this stuff.
You know, I know that there's a lot of projection.
Everything they do, everything they say.
has some relation to projection.
Well, I'm glad you worked it all out with your mega friend, and now you're back to being friends again.
Yes, that's right.
You had the big
argument, you had a big blow up of the day.
We
are definitely friends still.
You're tight.
After all this
time.
That's good.
Well, thank you.
I'm glad you were very concerned about our friendship.
I think I met Vince once, many,
many years ago.
The wedding.
Was he at the
wedding?
Yeah, he was at the wedding.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
What's his actual job?
Is he
a hairdresser?
He used to, yeah.
Hair
stylist.
Hair stylist.
I was going to say, the next time you get your haircut, you should drive over to Milwaukee, have him cut it.
So then you can be sat down in a chair and stuck there when he's got a pair of scissors in his hand so he can talk to you all he wants.
I know
that's a real threat right there.
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Well, okay.
The next big story.
We never really talked about this.
It was the self deportation rules that Trump has put in place.
This is,
you know, these are little projects that it doesn't, it stretches credulately.
It's just, it's not right.
These things shouldn't be going on.
We shouldn't be talking about these ridiculous
things that the administration is pulling off on us.
But the self deportation rules was one of those things that I just couldn't believe.
Again, I can't believe this
stuff.
So they're suggesting you should, if you're supposed to be deported, you
should
just turn yourself in.
That's it.
They'll give you money and the whole thing.
And again, you have to think, if Biden had done this, well, it would have been a waste of money.
He's spending.
taxpayer dollars.
I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to that.
Well, anyway, let's listen to cut 79 and to all illegal aliens.
Book your free flight right now.
Here we go.
Today I signed an executive order to launch the first ever self deportation program for illegal aliens.
We are making it as easy as possible for illegal aliens to leave America.
Any illegal alien can simply show up at the airport and receive a free flight out of our country.
We have also launched a phone app called CBP Home.
That's CBP Home, where illegals can book a free flight to any foreign country.
As long as it's not here, you can go anywhere you want.
We're also adding a very important exit bonus for illegals to further incentivize their self-dequitation.
This deportation bonus will save American taxpayers billions and billions of dollars.
What Biden did to this country can never be explained, will never ever be accepted.
Eventually, when the illegals are gone, it will save us trillions of dollars.
However,
If illegal aliens choose to remain in America, they're remaining illegally and they will face severe consequences.
Illegal aliens who stay in America face punishments including significant jail time, enormous financial penalties, confiscation of all property, garnishment of all wages, imprisonment and incarceration and sudden deportation in a place and manner solely of our discretion.
So to all illegal aliens who book your free flight right now,
We want you out of America, but if you're really good, we're going to try and help you get back in.
Thank
you.
Thank you.
That was very pleasant.
I wonder how many people took
up that offer.
I want to go to Australia.
I'd like to find out who took them up on this thing, you know, and a pocket full of Bitcoin for you.
Good luck.
See
you
around.
Wherever you can.
Oh my god,
that is hilarious.
Where is his enthusiasm that we see at all of his rallies?
I'm
sure
he wasn't talking with his hands.
He's not changing the tone of his voice at all.
He's
reading off the prompter.
Exactly.
Yeah, the dark moment.
He always includes a few dark moments in anything he talks about.
Yeah, it brings out the sociopath, doesn't it?
Oh, my God.
OK.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it is 648 and 44 degrees.
When we return from this break, we're going to be saluting George Wentz, who died yesterday in the age of 76.
Cheers.
We'll have our tribute coming up on John and Gordy in the morning.
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Mm-hmm.
653, Cloudy and Rainy.
George went, uh, died yesterday at the age of 76.
Of course, he played Norm.
Yes.
In, uh, the show Cheers, which was just a wonderful series.
It's a great
series.
Yeah.
If you have a chance, at least, check out the first two seasons.
I did that recently.
Oh, yeah, I did.
Yeah.
It petered off after the second season.
Well, I don't know why, you know, I know it really picked up steam near the
end.
Was that when Shelley John or Shelley John Shelley?
What's her last name now?
Yeah.
Think of it.
I've watched less of a show than you guys.
Sure.
Shelley Long.
Shelley Long.
I don't know.
That sounds right.
But yeah, when she left the show.
Yeah.
It
changed the dynamic.
It did.
A bit.
Yeah, I think it's Schelling
law anyway.
Anyway, it's it's a fantastic show and George went was the guy, you
know
he was the guy.
Yeah
And I didn't know that he had gone to high school in prayer to sheen.
Yeah, you know, camp in high school.
I graduated there in 1966.
And I believe that's where went, you know, got the ability to sit at the bar with his elbows up and and threw back a few beers in Wisconsin.
That's what he was in high school.
That's where he got the experience.
He actually grew up in Chicago.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what made him so good with Bill Shorsky's.
Oh,
the Bears?
The Bears
bit on Saturday Night Live.
Yeah, that's right.
He
was
a
big part of that.
Did go.
Yeah.
Do we have a little bit of George Wendt?
Yeah, let's play a little, you know, a few bits here that we managed to get from a little bit of station.
Are
you looking
for year
ones?
Yes.
You put together?
Yes.
How does it be sound, Norm?
I don't know, coach.
They usually finish them before they get a word in.
The bars can be very sad places.
Some people spend their whole lives in a bar.
Just yesterday, some guy sat right here next to me for 11 hours.
I have impossibly high standards for a woman.
Yes, she has to like you, right?
You know what I think the most important thing in life is?
It's love.
You want to know what I love?
Beer, Norm?
Yeah, that was quick.
I did a great deal of preparation for that role.
You know, it was a lifetime.
He lives the
fire.
You know, I did put on like 75 pounds for the role, much like Robert De Niro did for Raging.
I know.
You have to make these sacrifices.
Yeah.
And probably learn to drink a little beer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Good afternoon, Norman.
Yeah.
That was great.
Beautiful.
Great.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Did
you have something?
Did you bring in something there?
Well, it's just a compilation of Norm Peterson's funny moments, part one.
Okay, well,
why don't you play a bit of that?
Sure.
Yeah, I'd
love to hear it.
Afternoon, everybody.
Oh, Norm!
How's life treating you, Norm?
She caught me in bed with his wife.
Listen, promise you'll hold me to one beer tonight.
One at a time?
For the whole
night.
Oh, Norm!
Norm?
What's up, Nod?
My nipples.
It's freezing out
there.
Yeah, Vera read Woman's Magazine of the Weekend.
Articles says you got a romance back in America.
Oh, you're
a chap.
So
she says I gotta act like recording, right?
I got to call her up for date, buy her flowers.
Take her someplace fancy.
Well, that sounds good.
Yeah, I'm a romantic guy, so I go out in the corner, use the payphone, call her up.
She turns me down.
Yeah, no, look at me.
Vera never had any kids.
I can't, coach.
Gee, I'm sorry, Norm.
I look at Vera.
I just
can't.
All right.
That's George
White.
That's
it, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cheers.
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Well, that's you know,
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706 it's cloudy and rainy 92.7 WMDX John Peterson Gordy Young producer Sam and producer Dominic slash Boris No, it's really not Boris.
His little name is not Boris.
It is
Boris.
You
just made that up.
I just checked his ID
He brought in his birth certificate for the Human Resources
Department.
I don't
want to tag with Boris for the rest of his life.
I think it's a cool name.
Yes, I know you do, but no one wants to be called Boris.
It's up to you.
I
might give you the grand reveal right now.
I might give you the grand reveal.
Yeah, tell us.
Joseph.
That's the real name.
It's you know
what you mean.
I didn't have it, right?
No Okay, Joseph,
that's why you lost your stand in the delts
I Had a nice place there
right on
superior Street
right
downtown you did
Cross from have a swig with Nick.
You know, it was right there.
Exactly.
Perfect place.
Swig with Nick.
That's been there forever.
I know.
I know.
Since the 30s.
And everybody who's looked at the name of that place is going,
what?
They're
rolling their eyes going, what
year is this?
What?
I know it.
I know it.
All right, let's go to the phone.
So we've got Catherine on the line
right
now.
It's something you
said, I'm sure.
Catherine, what's up?
Good morning.
You're all in such trouble.
I'm going to get you later.
But no, I wanted you to know something because you don't have the capability and your listeners would not know this.
You do not have the capability of hearing what goes on in your show ever.
That's what you're coming out of your mouth.
I know.
So what you missed, and I wanted you because it made me snort my coffee.
Yes.
It's a promo for Pete.
You know, Pete Schwab, who does our six to eight entertainment show, it is so entertaining.
He liked the Tonight Show at night on the media.
He did a promo saying that he's trying to do intermittent fasting, you know, when you don't eat first thing in the morning, you know, you wait until afternoon, maybe, or whatever.
It means you get your 12 hours, eight hours of real fasting, no food.
And he said he took a walk and he got swarmed by the midges.
and he thinks the eight eight to ten of them oh and he's wondering if that broke as
fast
He was eating flies.
And
they have .008 calories per.
And Conrad said, yeah, I guess that means you broke your fast.
Well, they tasted OK.
Well, there you go.
They tasted.
I
did hear that earlier.
Yeah, in the way.
I know.
I love being on this program.
It's fun.
You
guys haven't learned yours.
Get a spot out of bed.
some day.
You know, we should call him early in the morning,
you know,
wake him up.
You know, I'm just a little, I'm a little jealous of him.
He gets to watch all the movies and I can't anymore.
Yeah.
So all
right, we
got to get him in here.
All right.
All right.
Thank you, Catherine.
All right.
Appreciate it.
Yeah.
No, that's a great pro.
Yeah,
I did hear that coming.
Yeah,
we gotta get Pete in
here.
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You know what I like about the AI?
Is that when you're shopping, it actually gives you suggestions.
Does it really?
Yeah, it actually tells you what to buy.
Do you have to, so you turn on the Bluetooth or is that, is it just happen automatically?
It just happens automatically.
It's telling me
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now, so.
That's why you walk out of Costco with so much.
Really?
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My
second home Costco.
You get an app
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hearing aids and yeah, it's really cool.
You can adjust them, you can check out the EQ on your hearing aids.
By the way, I gotta tell you my latest experience at Costco.
Like playing volleyball over
here.
So anyway, you know, I was thinking the other day, you know, it's summertime again and the heat is rising and I can't handle heat.
You know, I can't do points either.
Yeah.
So I'm thinking I got to get a new pedestal fan.
My pedestal fan broke.
I don't know what happened to it.
I cleaned it all up, right?
And I plug it in, I turned it on, it doesn't turn on.
I really got it.
So it's the cleanest piece of junk anybody will ever see.
Anyway, I thought, well, I want a pedestal fan.
How can I get the best kind of pedestal fan?
And this is it, because I'm sitting out at the table in the summer.
I'm sitting outside.
I want to do my show out there, a little prep out there at the picnic table and have some beers.
And I'm thinking, well, I can't have a fan out here unless I have an extension cord, blah, blah, blah.
So long story short, not really.
Too late for that.
battery operated battery operated cordless
cordless
cordless pedestal fan
that would be great
guess what
they have them
they had them where couldn't believe it I love this is my giant new billion dollar idea of a battery a rechargeable
yeah
portable pedestal fan yeah and they have them there
I
tell you, everything's been done and redone before.
Nothing's new anymore.
I know.
I know.
So did you buy it?
I did.
I bought two of them.
One for my kid upstairs because it's really hot on the third floor.
But also I got myself one and it is fantastic.
What a piece of genius.
Absolutely.
It's rechargeable.
Oh, it's rechargeable.
You can take it anywhere you want.
It's got a
handle on it.
It's got a magnet on the back of it where you can put the remote control.
Oh, wow.
It's a remote controlled fan.
Of course
it is.
Wow.
Of
course.
Hey, nothing but
the best.
There's a
go-back.
The best for me.
It goes back and forth.
I mean, swings
one way or the other.
It does.
Yes.
In fact, you can adjust it to 160, 90, and 45.
Oh, the angle?
The whole angle.
Yeah.
And plus, get this.
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Does it really?
Yeah, man.
It's like having a jet.
By remote control?
You have to walk up to it.
You have to walk up to and touch it, but you have to push that down for three seconds and it's like having a jet engine.
We need one of those in the studio here because it gets a
little warm in summertime.
We could get a pedestal
fan.
It's wonderful.
It's just fantastic.
So yeah, and it's on sale, $40 off.
What a deal.
I wish they'd pay me for this.
The Costco endorsement?
Yes.
Let's get somewhere along the way.
Let's get our sales guy, Arthur.
But anyway, if you're looking for a battery operated, chargeable, pedestal fan that has a jet engine on it.
There you
go.
Excellent.
Wow, that's a breezy
man.
Yeah, there's a
tornado in
here.
OK.
We should work a little more silent than that, but no, and by the way, it is super silent.
It's just unbelievable.
All right.
Excellent.
Enough for my sales pitch.
Okay.
We'll charge them later.
Okay.
Good deal.
All right.
Let's take a look at the big bad bill that they're pushing out there.
Yeah, we can't say the real name of
it.
No, we cannot do not say the real name of that thing.
Seriously.
Okay.
Do we want to mention what the onion headline about this bill was?
So yesterday I get emails from the onion every day, and their headline yesterday was Republicans argue whether the bill should be the handsome bill or the beautiful bill.
Well, they went with
beautiful.
You know, they stayed up all night.
They were up all night debating this bill.
I know.
They're trying
to pass it in the middle of the night.
Some people don't know what's in it, right?
Like we're not gonna read it the next day or something.
Well, anyway, this is really, this is going to run into some problems in the states, especially the red states.
They're shifting the social safety net programs, the costs of it to the states now.
And get this, the Wisconsin Democrats here at the legislature, they wanna plan ahead.
They wanna start.
planning on funding the programs that will be cut via the federal government.
So they want to plan ahead.
And guess who doesn't want to plan ahead?
That's right.
The Republicans at the state legislature.
They're not moving on this thing.
And the problem is that what they want to do, they want to cut programs, they want to cut spending in the state, so they can give tax cuts.
In the state now they these are state tax cuts.
So now the federal government wants to also have tax cuts for the wealthy countrywide So we have these two converging
Problems of tax cuts
all over the place
and no spending.
No.
Yeah So the states for the first time would have to pay for a portion of food stamp benefits going from paying nothing now to paying about five to maybe 25% as well as a larger portion of administrative costs This would result in reductions in the number of people currently more than 40 million
or close to 13% of the population suddenly losing food stamps, probably.
Generally, people are only eligible for food assistance if they make less than $33,000 a year for a family of three.
So figure that out.
Under the guise of waste, fraud, and abuse, states will get $698 billion less for Medicaid, badger care here in this state, over 10 years cutting millions from healthcare.
States would not be able to backfill.
all the cuts to Medicaid, the federal percentage of it.
And the current House proposal would also reduce federal funding to the 14 states that have used their own state funds to cover undocumented children.
So, now, it's not a cost to the federal government, but they're gonna reduce federal funding to the states that pay through their own state money to cover undocumented children.
I mean, this is just me and spirited crap Trump administration has begun denying disaster relief for states.
We talked about that earlier, you know kind of canceling out FEMA Trump does not like FEMA Yeah, and that follows a mark a March executive order in which the president called for the states to be empowered
That's it.
That's power.
That's the word.
To do more to prepare for the cyber attacks, wildfires, hurricanes, and tornadoes.
Yeah,
just leave it up to the states.
They can handle that.
And this was in the story.
It said space weather.
I
don't know what the hell that is.
Space
weather.
Space weather.
We got to deal with that.
I don't know what that means.
No, that was really in the story.
I couldn't believe it.
Okay, and this is the last point.
It'll reduce federal spending on student loans by about $350 billion and pair back federally subsidized loans and cap the amount.
Fewer will be able to afford college at this point.
So we're really doing well.
We're making America great
again.
Wow.
When we come back.
I'm going to ask our WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlot about space weather.
Space
weather.
If she's
ever heard
the term.
Exactly.
Is that what it is?
Maybe?
OK.
We'll find out next with Brittany Merlot on WMDX.
WMDX, John
and Gordy in the morning.
723, cloudy skies.
We've had some drizzle, some light rain already this morning.
Going to see a little bit more along the way.
Yeah.
Off and on.
Well, we should find out for sure.
Well, we should.
How could we possibly do that?
Yeah.
What would be the best way to do that?
To find out more about the weather?
Coincidentally, I
think we have somebody.
Oh, yes.
That we could.
Joining us right now.
Ask?
Yeah.
Sorry, WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlo.
Good morning, Brittany.
Fantastic.
Hey, how's it going?
Good, good, good.
Looks like another umbrella day around here.
Yeah.
Got rain showers this morning and I guess more on the way, right?
You got your Great Lakes
hoodie on today.
That's pretty nice.
Very cool.
Yes, I do.
They are rocking and rolling the Great Lakes.
Lake Michigan waves are at about six to seven feet right now.
Lake Superior
has
a gale warning.
So, you know, I'm just cold up here
when chills
are in the mid 30s.
So I had to put the hoodie on again, even though we came from those 80s before it feels like so long ago now after yesterday and today, it's still going to be a wet and raw day.
Probably another quarter of an inch of rain expected.
It's
going to
continue to drop south as this system starts to exit.
So highs today, still colder, hitting about 50 degrees, feeling more like 40.
And of course, we'll see a little bit of drizzle possible still tomorrow morning, but then the sunshine returns.
Yay.
And so to the sixties.
Oh man, I can't wait.
So Memorial Day weekend looking pretty good.
All it
really is.
Honestly.
I mean, I'm sure people would probably prefer it to be a little bit warmer, but low sixties on Friday, mid sixties, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
And we're only looking at some chances of rain moving in by Monday evening
now.
So it's holding
off
till the very end of our Memorial Day weekend.
And we're still looking at upper sixties as we start into next week, too.
Excellent.
Well, that's fantastic.
Yeah.
I
like the cooler temperatures, you know?
Yeah,
they're comfortable.
They're
perfect.
You can
do stuff and not sweat and you can also, you know, be outside and comfortable.
It's good.
It's good.
So the dew points then will be low.
You with the dew
points.
What is your problem lately with
dew points?
Smart.
But it
isn't.
It's a super villain that I oftentimes try
to
fight.
Look, I just read what the federal government is doing to the state.
They're foisting off all the costs to the state.
But they're also getting rid of a few things and one of the things and we're gonna ask you about this right now They mentioned that It's going to empower states to do more to prepare for cyber attacks wildfires hurricanes tornadoes and and space weather Space weather space weather you have any idea what they're talking
about space
weather
Um, I have no idea to be honest with
you.
Unless they caught one of our interplanetary weather forecasts and think, well, we got to get rid of that.
That's
waste,
fraud and abuse
right there.
What could space weather possibly mean?
I mean, like an asteroid coming down or is that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
The first thing that my mind went to was like debris out there that could affect our atmosphere, but like.
No.
No, I think I mean, nobody knows some weird typo.
They threw it in.
They threw it into this bill.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, there's making stuff up.
Apparently.
All right, Brittany.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, appreciate your report.
And we'll talk to you tomorrow morning.
You have a great day.
That was good, you guys.
All right.
You too, stay dry.
Yep, we will do.
WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlot.
Okay, well, there's new rules, by the way.
The U.S.
Food and Drug Administration is changing the way it approves COVID-19 vaccines for Americans, a move that may limit future shots to older Americans and people at high risk of serious COVID-19 infections.
So, you know, they're using placebo.
effects now they're they're using testing that
you know, creates the placebo and the actual vaccine in test cases.
So, well, I guess, you know, this takes a lot of time.
It's very expensive for the drug companies to have this.
So, that's what is happening here.
The agency, this is RFK Junior's idea, by the way, is changing the type of evidence it will accept from vaccine manufacturers to approve updated COVID-19 shots.
Updated shots will probably be available this fall for adults 65 and older and those with underlying conditions, underlying conditions.
Well, nearly three quarters of Americans, six months and older, have at least one underlying medical condition.
So I don't know, does that mean that then everybody still can get the COVID vaccine boosters?
I don't know.
I guess.
Now, you would think that we would have at least enough evidence at this point in time, after going through the pandemic, that it has proven itself to be very effective and safe.
Yes.
Right?
Right.
So why do we need at least a placebo-controlled trial for something like this already?
And these are just improvements on it, where they're just updating it per virus.
Anyway, I'm just
thinking, you
know, this is not a good thing to happen.
No.
Preventing people from getting the COVID vaccine if they
want it.
By the way, we just got a text in here from Ladi, who says space, we were talking about space weather.
Space weather means things like solar flares and sunspots.
Really?
That's in the bill.
Okay.
Well, I don't know how much money the state spent on those things.
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Mike, it's good to see you.
Yeah.
Good to be here.
Blogger and author of Miracles Along County Q.
That's right.
So we were just checking out your latest post.
Right.
It's pretty dark stuff
there.
I want a
negative.
Yeah.
Geez.
I know you're standing up for the rural community, but
Boy, you know, they're pretty...
No, I actually think...
Political active sometimes.
Well, yeah, and I think there's an uplifting part to the story.
There is, there is that.
Yeah, I mean, it was outright revolt in the early 1930s, in the area where I grew up.
Not far from county Q, as a matter of fact, and runs through Clark
County.
Wow,
there you go.
Yeah, and a lot of people don't know about the milk strikes of 1933.
It's not taught in school, not something that is on very many people's radar, but well, tell us about
it.
Well, you led up to it by maybe some comments in the audience from people who might actually think that rural communities are a little bit on the very conservative edgy side.
Yeah, and the area I'm talking about where all this started, where the milk strikes were born, is today,
the reddest of red areas in our country.
It is a MAGA Republican stronghold today.
And in the late 1920s and early 1930s, this was a hotbed of progressivism.
Yes, it was.
And farmers had had it.
They weren't getting fair prices.
And so they just decided, dog on it, we're gonna organize.
And in Abbotsford, Wisconsin.
which is not far from where our farm was as I was growing up, not far from where the town, where my novel is set is at.
Farmers came together, hundreds of farmers came together to start to organize, to withhold their milk.
And then not too long after that, 5,000 farmers showed up in nearby Marshfield.
to continue the organizing campaign and eventually over 100,000 farmers in Wisconsin had joined the milk strike.
They were dumping milk at the roadside and on railroad tracks and they were blocking shipment of milk to creameries, to places where it was bottled or made into cheese.
They even were blowing up some cheese factories
and creameries with dynamite, they were obstructing the roads, erecting blockades to prevent trucks from getting milk products to Madison and Milwaukee.
They just decided we're gonna shut everything down.
There's not gonna be milk or any milk products anywhere in the state of Wisconsin.
This eventually spread to other dairy states across the country.
And it ended up getting the attention of the Roosevelt administration, and the very first farm bill came out of that.
A federal response that produced a New Deal-era supply management program that made sure that farmers got a fair price and were able to be profitable was put in place in this country for the very first time.
So here in this area where it's today, about the biggest MAGA Republican stronghold that you will see anywhere in the state
of
Wisconsin started this revolt.
The governor at the time was a Democrat.
Now Democrats and Republicans were different animals back then.
They were, yes they were.
But the governor at the time was a Democrat.
He called out the National Guard to confront the strikers.
they were met with tear gas and beaten with clubs and one farmer was shot in the neck and died in his brother's arms.
It did not stop the strikers.
The Wisconsin State Journal wrote an editorial at the time comparing that killing of that farmer to the beginning of the American Revolution.
And this strike got even bigger until it led to massive reform of milk pricing.
in what became the very first farm bill ever enacted by Congress.
And the Roosevelt administration put into effect a system that treated farmers far more fairly than they had been treated.
So that kind of, hey, you know, that Democratic governor at the time compared these farmers to...
to socialists and said that they had fallen under the influence of Bolsheviks.
And these are the people who are in the same area that today is very
red.
It's amazing how their heritage has so much to do with socialism.
Absolutely.
And at that same basic time, I didn't write about this, but
But there was something formed in North Dakota called the Nonpartisan League.
That very same time, the early 1930s, and they put in place public purchasing and transport of wheat, because that was a big wheat area.
They actually formed the first and only, it still exists today, is the state bank of North Dakota, a public...
bank to provide credit to farmers and to make sure that farmers could get product to market at a reasonable cost.
And that bank, the state bank of North Dakota, still exists to this day.
And so there was... How did Trump miss that?
There was this prairie populism.
It's a state bank.
It's not a federal bank.
He's going after everything.
I know.
But there was this prairie populism.
And those organizers of the nonpartisan league...
in North Dakota, they were socialists.
They were, you know.
It was popular back then.
Socialism was very popular.
Yeah, and so I think my point was just that, look, it hasn't always been the way it is today.
Not in Clark County, Wisconsin, not in North Dakota, in none of these places.
It's not always been this way, and it's not always gonna be this way.
And the seeds of...
of reactionary right-wing politics have always been there, but also the seeds of progressive, even revolutionary politics
have
always been in the ground there.
Now, I also mentioned that this was not a one-off.
What happened in 1933 was not a one-off.
During my childhood, I was 14 years old at the
time.
Was it 1974?
It was 1974, so I was 14 years old.
And this was in Curtis, and our farm was just miles outside of the little town of Curtis in Clark County.
And I remember this well.
We had reached the point where shipping an animal to market cost you more than what you got paid for the animal.
If you sold an animal in market, it didn't even cover your transportation costs.
I remember that story.
It was a big story back then.
And people were so frustrated with the pricing and the market.
that farmers in Clark County ended up organizing a calf kill and dug a huge trench.
I remember exactly where it was.
And they dug a huge trench.
Over 650 calves were slaughtered
and
dumped in this trench and about a dozen and a half hogs also were killed and dumped in the trench.
Now, my family didn't participate.
We knew about it.
Everybody knew about it.
We chose not to participate.
But it made national news.
It ended up covered in the New York Times.
Walter Cronkite announced this news, reported this incident on the CBS Evening News, and we all watched it.
That little Curtis, 150 people in the middle of nowhere, made the national news because of this outburst of frustration.
And so as recently as 1974, you had this...
you had these seeds of revolt that were right there.
It was seething.
And I think it's just so important for people to remember that the way people seem today is not the way they've always been and it's not the way they will always be.
It's a heck of a lot more fluid than people imagine.
And so that was really my point
with this
latest Substack article.
Talking with Mike McCabe, a Substack blogger and author, 746.
So Mike, what can we learn?
Let's talk about today's farmers.
And is there a possibility that they could do some sort of drastic action?
What are they upset about that would cause them to do something that they did back in the 1930s or in the 1970s?
You know, we have had... Are they organized, I guess?
Farmers have never been organized at any given moment, but in 1933, they got organized.
And they got organized in a hurry because there were feelings of desperation.
And the same thing happened in 1974.
When I was growing up, farmers are not... They're working all day, seven days a week, out on the farm.
They're not prone to being going off to organizing meetings.
But when conditions reach a point where they can't take it anymore, when they reach that breaking point, they get organized in a hurry and they'll take these dramatic actions, as happened in the milk strikes in 1933, happened more recently during my own upbringing.
And we had 50 years of market stability and decent prices.
Farmers had times when they would struggle, they would have times where they were doing relatively well.
But it was, we had 50 plus years of market stability.
Well, a lot of that is getting unraveled.
And, you know, that little town of Curtis was 150 people then, but when I was growing up there, just over 200 people now, but it's the majority of the population is Latino.
Most of the people living in Curtis are not white.
You mentioned that, yeah.
Because they're the cow milkers, they're the farm workers, right?
And if...
current immigration policies Take the take us to such extremes that you're deporting people simply because because they're brown or black You could cripple American agriculture and if people are pushed to that limit again where where their their operations are crippled You'll see you'll see them rise up again.
Well, I know that Trump has exempted
farm workers at this point
so
far.
Yeah
We'll pick it up there when we come back with Mike McCabe, sub-stack blogger and author 748 back with more of John and Gordy in the morning after
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And on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, I need a caretaker.
So God made a farmer.
God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows work all day in the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight at the meeting of the school board.
So God made a farmer.
God said, I need somebody willing to sit up all night with a newborn colt.
and watch it die and dry his eyes and say maybe next year.
I need somebody who can shape an axe handle from a persimmon sprout, she'll horse with a hunk of car tire, who can make harness out of hay, wire, feed sacks, and shoe scraps, who planting time and harvest season will finish his 40 hour a week by Tuesday noon and then paining from tractor back put in another 72 hours so God made a farmer.
God said I need somebody strong enough to clear trees and heave bales,
yet gentle enough to yeen lambs and wean pigs and tempt the pink combed bullets who have stopped his mower for an hour to splint the broken leg of a meadowlark.
So God made a farmer.
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I don't know if you realize it, but you called it a fantastic, at least twice.
So thank you, Laura.
John, you didn't even get to the hopeful part of that little poem from Paul Hart.
Well, yeah, where was that?
At the very end, it's about a kid who wants to become a farmer when he grows up.
Well,
there's still plenty of kids out there that want to do that, right?
Damn.
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That's what happens, oh boy.
We're back with Mike McCabe now.
We were talking about farming and oh
boy.
Yeah, there's a different impression of farmers, and it's a misimpression of farmers because you gave a few examples in your post at Substack.
regarding how farmers vote.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I've done work over the years that put me on the road a lot and put me in front of a lot of audiences.
I was a candidate for governor and spent a lot of time, you know, going to every nook and cranny of the state talking
to a
lot of people.
And one of the things I hear when people know of my rural background is that, well, you know, they vote the way they do because they're bigots.
Yeah.
And, you know, and I get where they're coming from.
I hear what they're saying, but I always challenge that.
Always.
And one of the things I say is, OK, if bigotry explains their voting, then how do you explain the results of the 2008 presidential election when dozens of the most rural counties in Wisconsin voted to elect the first black president in our nation?
Right.
And then in 2012.
If it's bigotry that inspires their voting, if bigotry is their guide when they go to the polling place, then how do you explain 2012?
We had a U.S.
Senate election, and one of the candidates was the only four-term governor Wisconsin has ever known, Tommy Thompson.
And the other candidate was an out lesbian, Tammy Baldwin.
And most of the most rural states in Wisconsin voted for the out lesbian.
And so again, I think it's really important to realize that the seeds of political revolt are there in rural Wisconsin in very recent times, and I think to this day.
But if people are feeling frustrated, they'll also lash out and move in the other direction.
But I don't think we can write off any population.
I don't think we can write off any part of our state or our country.
because there are seeds of progressive revolt everywhere in every part of this land.
Now we were talking off the air about the other revolt and that was during the...
milk pricing problem that we had here in the state.
There was an oversupply of milk and we also had problems shipping milk into Canada.
It was at that time as well.
And so, you know, they were dumping milk all over the state.
Yeah, and the thing is, you can't turn off cows.
They have to be milked every day, at least a couple of times a day.
And the milk comes, but if you are getting
such a miserable price that you can't even afford to ship it to market, then the only recourse you've got is to dump it.
And you see that from time to time.
When
milk
pricing gets ridiculous enough, farmers will just say, well, we can't even afford to get it to market.
So we're going to have to dump it, which is a horrible waste, of course.
But that is when you reach that point of desperation.
And that's what will turn people
to sometimes really unexpected kinds of political action.
Well,
you know, Pam Yonkey,
Midwest Farm
Report, she was on the program just this Monday and mentioned that when the tornadoes come through and some of these barns are devastated, you still got a milk cow's wordy a milk
thing.
Who milk's that?
Where
does the supply go?
I mean, that is a huge problem.
I never even thought of it before.
I go to a neighbor or, you know, try to truck the cows somewhere else.
I mean,
it's
different cows being milk.
at another farm, it's kind of, you know, chancy.
I mean, no one knows what's got.
There's a lot of work out there where these farmers have to get together and help each other out.
Oh, it's an incredible act of faith to throw seeds in the ground.
And because they're, you know, a killer frost can destroy the crop, you can lose
it all
to a hail storm or tornado.
And that's always been the nature of farming, but
yet...
People do it.
Yeah, that's it.
They do.
Mike, thanks for joining us.
We'll see you again next Wednesday.
It's Mike McCabe.
You can check him out at Substack.
with his blog every week there.
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