From Garbage Day to Governance: A Chaotic Morning

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From Garbage Day to Governance: A Chaotic Morning

John & Gordy · Mon May 19, 2025

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Gordy Young

WMDX 92.7, John and Gordy in the morning.

Boy, you know, it's garbage day for a lot of people in town, man.

Did

John Peterson

you

Gordy Young

see the dumpsters just outside the parking ramp here?

No.

Wow, what did they have?

Some kind of wild party?

I mean, that is full.

Are they?

That's

John Peterson

been a show at the Orpheum, maybe?

Yeah, could have been.

Gordy Young

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

Could be.

You know, a lot of people, you know, throwing stuff around and...

John Peterson

Party time.

I

Gordy Young

don't know what, why am I talking garbage?

You know, I was so glad to see our garbage cans moved out to the street.

I forgot to do it last night and, you know, my kid, maybe, had done that.

That would be a screaming...

Moment of history really I can't hear anything.

What's the matter?

What's

John Peterson

better?

Which one are you in?

Gordy Young

You're in this one.

Can you hear anything now?

Hello?

Can you hear me now?

Can you hear me

John Peterson

now?

We can hear you.

There we go.

Okay.

Gordy Young

I'm good.

John Peterson

Okay.

Gordy Young

He talks to himself a

John Peterson

lot, doesn't he?

Producer Sam, good morning to you.

Hey, yeah, yeah.

It's John Peterson, Gordy Young, Producer Sam and...

Our new producer, Dominic, is riding shotgun with Sam today.

How's it going?

Dominic Lee, welcome aboard.

There he is, yes.

Thank you for having me, guys.

You betcha.

You betcha.

Okay.

This is episode number 391, if you're keeping track at home.

Gordy Young

Dominic, you will regret this decision.

John Peterson

Write that number down.

That's your first warning, so.

Yeah.

All right.

And the way we figure it, Sam.

Sam's last day will be produced, will be episode number 400.

Wow, so exactly 400 episodes.

Yeah, it's like we

Producer Sam

planned it straight from the beginning.

Gordy Young

Well, we did, didn't

John Peterson

we?

Gordy Young

Actually, we never expected to be here, episode 400.

John Peterson

Yes,

Gordy Young

that's

John Peterson

true.

Boy, it's chilly this morning.

It's ridiculous, isn't it?

Yes.

It's cloudy out there.

We might get some rain, I guess, later tonight and into tomorrow.

But right now.

Ah, forgot my watch.

You forgot your Samsung WMDX watch.

SPEAKER_??

Oh, man.

John Peterson

What the hell?

What are we going to do?

No,

Gordy Young

I don't

John Peterson

know.

You're just

Gordy Young

going to have to use the old method

John Peterson

of

Gordy Young

determining the temperature for today.

Well,

John Peterson

we'll look outside the window on the WMDX thermometer right outside here.

It looks like it's 40 degrees.

What do you think the afternoon high may be?

You want to just take a wild guess?

Gordy Young

Yeah, I did kind of look when I was at home,

John Peterson

and I think

Gordy Young

it's

John Peterson

going to be around 58 today.

Well, let's check

Gordy Young

the

John Peterson

weather inlet wheel, and we'll spin the wheel.

Get the ball in there, round and round it goes, and see.

Well, that's shiny.

It's, I know it's.

It cleaned it all up for the weekend.

57, red 57.

There he goes, huh?

Yeah, that's pretty close.

So you just guessed 58 just out of the clear blue sky.

Okay.

Well, that's where you get the

Gordy Young

weather, the clear blue sky.

What temperature

Producer Sam

did you say it is right now?

Gordy Young

If that's our high?

John Peterson

Right, 39, isn't it?

Geez, Louise.

Yeah, well, I've got 40, but yes.

Gordy Young

Okay, 40.

John Peterson

Yeah.

And it's a little breezy too, once again today.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

Okay.

I don't think it'll hurt the basil plants that we have outside, but keeping my fingers crossed on

John Peterson

that.

Okay, well before we get to the national day calendar Let me just say this portion of the program is brought to you by our friends at Verlo mattress of Madison one thing that remains constant since 1958 They are still direct to consumer and provide superior products at unbeatable prices to locations to serve you in Madison east side and west side go to verlo.com and check out their lifetime comfort

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Gordy Young

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John Peterson

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I do.

Gordy Young

Yeah, I'm watching TV last night.

I'm watching another, you know, bed manufacturer brag about their adjustable bed frames.

Really?

Well, well, well,

John Peterson

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Gordy Young

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No, they're

John Peterson

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They're also bringing us this portion of our show.

And you know, Jim and Sarah have set me up with an appointment.

I know you went there a couple of weeks ago, about three weeks ago.

I

Gordy Young

went in

John Peterson

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Gordy Young

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John Peterson

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Gordy Young

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They have all the latest technology, don't they?

It's AI.

John Peterson

Yeah, so you have you can't see the hearing.

I mean there's really really can't know

Gordy Young

there's yeah tiny little fiber that goes into your ear and

Producer Sam

Looks like you guys need a seeing aid as well.

Why you say

John Peterson

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Producer Sam

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John Peterson

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You

Producer Sam

know, back to Verlo for a second.

I really, really wish that I had had a Verlo mattress over the weekend.

Gordy Young

I

Producer Sam

told you guys on Friday my roommates and I were going to bike to New Glaris.

Gordy Young

Yes.

Did you do that?

Producer Sam

We did.

We biked down to New Glaris on Friday afternoon.

and camped the night, and boy, I cannot sleep on a ground anymore.

I used to be able to just pitch a

John Peterson

tent and

Producer Sam

lay down

John Peterson

in there with a

Producer Sam

blanket, and I'd be good for the night.

That is not the case anymore.

John Peterson

You're an eagle scout.

You should be able to do anything.

It's like being a green beret.

You could do anything.

You can survive out in the woods.

Producer Sam

I made it through the night, all right.

I didn't sleep well.

I was shivering the whole time.

Gordy Young

Gordy, Gordy, we've got to congratulate him for finally, you know, making it into a...

adulthood I mean finally you know you're

Producer Sam

saying I've reached the point

Gordy Young

point where yes now you're a full grown adult you can't lay on the ground anymore you know I know I know everybody thinks it's some kind of preference thing no you really can't lay on the ground just don't do that yeah you don't need that

John Peterson

All right, let's get to the national day calendar.

I know you've been waiting for us.

Gordy Young

I thought you were going to say something about not meeting Maddie the mattress.

You know, you're going to be leaving here.

Maddie the mattress.

Oh, God, I didn't

Producer Sam

even think about that.

I'm so disappointed.

John Peterson

You're right.

We got to get him in here in the next two weeks.

We got to get him in here in the next two weeks.

That's got to happen.

OK, national day calendar for Monday, May 19.

Is it or is it not?

Is it national roadie day?

Is it National Upside Down Pineapple Day?

Pineapple Cake Day?

What is it?

National, wait a second.

Wait a second.

National Pineapple Upside Down Cake Day or something like that.

National Devil's Food Cake Day?

Or National May Ray Day?

What day is it not, John?

Uh, cake day?

Well, which one?

There's National Devil's Food Cake Day or National Upside Down Pineapple Cake Day.

Pineapple.

What the hell are you talking

Gordy Young

about?

Did you

John Peterson

mix up the

Gordy Young

pineapple?

John Peterson

No, that is the thing.

National Upside Down Pineapple.

Gordy Young

Well, then you got me completely.

I don't

John Peterson

know.

You don't know?

And give him the buzzer, Sam.

Wait a second.

It is not it is you're right.

It's not national upside-down pineapple.

What the hell

Gordy Young

you

John Peterson

mean?

All right, I gotta look it up now because I saw it before I

Gordy Young

just

John Peterson

didn't

Gordy Young

oh

John Peterson

you did keep it.

Gordy Young

Yeah, yeah National upside-down pineapple day

John Peterson

It's not today Wow upside-down Pineapple cake day pineapple.

I can't spell and think of talk at the same time Yeah

upside down pineapple cake recipes right here.

See?

Oh,

Gordy Young

yeah.

John Peterson

You see that?

Gordy Young

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So

John Peterson

it's a thing.

It's just not today.

I see.

Gordy Young

Yeah.

So it's like in a jello mold and the pineapple lays at the bottom of it.

Right.

And so when you

John Peterson

flip it upside down, it's at the top.

You got it.

But that's not today.

It's National Rode Day.

You know, Rode, they help the band slow

Gordy Young

up.

Oh, yes, yes,

John Peterson

yes.

Yes, I... You were a Rode in a band once.

Gordy Young

Weren't you touring with Bach

John Peterson

and Turner

Gordy Young

Overdrive?

I had a part-time relationship with a girlfriend of a Rode who was on the road an awful lot.

You care to tell us more?

No.

No, that's okay.

John Peterson

National roadie day honors the unsung heroes who work tirelessly tirelessly behind the scenes to help the show get on the road Okay, there are this what?

Producer Sam

Pineapple upside down cake my dad's fave.

Oh, see

Wow.

John Peterson

Not upside

Producer Sam

down pineapple cake.

John Peterson

Okay, I got a little twisted around, but you know what I meant.

Okay, all right, wise guy.

But it is a thing.

It is a thing, yeah.

By the way, when are we having our banana cake recipe competition?

Producer Sam

Well, I asked Catherine if she wanted to do it, like actually on Monday, because we've got a lot to do today.

John Peterson

And it was like

Producer Sam

nine o'clock at night last night, and I really didn't feel like...

Starting to bake something.

Gordy Young

Okay, so

Producer Sam

we'll

John Peterson

have

Producer Sam

to push

John Peterson

it

Producer Sam

back again tomorrow or

Gordy Young

Wednesday

Let's do it Wednesday.

See, I'm insisting on the fact that you have to have old bananas to do that.

I don't have old bananas to do that.

Well, you can buy some

Producer Sam

today and then wait a couple of days.

Then they're old bananas.

Gordy Young

Yes, but you guys want this competition at a time when I don't have old bananas.

You

Producer Sam

go on Facebook Marketplace and say, in search of

Gordy Young

your old

Producer Sam

bananas.

Gordy Young

I'll go to Facebook Marketplace and see if I get it.

Get somebody to sell their old bananas to me.

John Peterson

Should we shoot for Thursday or Friday for the thing?

That give you time?

If you buy bananas today, will they be ready to go?

Yes, yes, probably.

OK, it's Devil's Foodcake Day.

All right.

Who doesn't love heavenly chocolate devil's food cake?

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's National May Ray Day.

What could this possibly be?

Yeah, what is that?

What does that mean?

I'm clicking it, but it's not coming up.

Here we go.

Um, National May Ray Day celebrates the bright sunshine and warmer weather with just a slight breeze to cool your skin.

What?

Outside and enjoy some spring weather.

Well, I don't think it's going to be pretty nice.

It's a little cloudy today.

Yeah.

Cloudy.

I think it might rain later today or tonight.

Yes.

So today is not a good day for May ray day.

Okay.

Any history book stuff, Sam?

You got anything?

Producer Sam

Well, I didn't have time to do it on Friday.

John Peterson

What do you mean you didn't have time?

I'm so

Producer Sam

busy running around from a remote broadcast on Friday.

This morning, however, I did find one golden nugget for you.

Just for you, Gordy.

Today in 1884, the Ringling Brothers Circus was founded.

John Peterson

Wait a minute.

Are you kidding me?

I'm not kidding you.

You know, the Circus World Museum up in Baraboo, they're open and they have performances, I think, seven days a week up there.

It's always a good time to take the kids.

Have you ever been

Producer Sam

to...

Baraboo to the

John Peterson

Circus World Museum.

When I

Producer Sam

was probably 10, I went there, yeah.

Gordy Young

I want to check out a podcast with Pete Schwabba.

He just recently talked to the person up there taking care of that.

John Peterson

That's right.

Gordy Young

That circus.

John Peterson

Oh, they got a big top circus there.

Big top circus.

Yeah, they got one of the big tents and they have acrobats.

And the only thing that

Producer Sam

I really remember from being there as a young kid was was the elephants because I mean elephants.

Pretty darn cool to a 10 year old kid.

John Peterson

Yeah,

Producer Sam

exactly.

They phased out their animals in the show.

John Peterson

Yeah, the elephants went away either last season or the season before.

Yeah.

No more elephants.

Mickey Dolan's, what was his circus boy?

Circus boy.

Boy, that's from the 50s.

He had a pet elephant, right?

He had a pet elephant.

Yeah.

He was a circus boy.

Mickey Dolan's, of course, eventually became the monkey's drummer.

Yeah.

And a great vocalist,

Gordy Young

I

John Peterson

think.

He's still around.

He's the last monkey

Gordy Young

last one standing.

Yeah.

John Peterson

Any other birthdays or anything else to celebrate today, Sam?

We got a couple of birthdays

Producer Sam

here.

It's Ho Chi Minh's birthday.

All right.

Yeah.

And it's also Malcolm X's birthday.

John Peterson

OK.

Happy

Producer Sam

birthday.

The two of them.

John Peterson

Yes.

Malcolm X had a tragic end in 1925.

A lot of people are jogging on the

Gordy Young

Ho Chi Minh trail.

Just throwing that out there.

John Peterson

Okay, coming back with Pam Yankee, right here on John and Gordy in the

Producer Sam

morning.

Gordy (host)

Here we go

Johnny Gordon in the morning

John (host)

90.7

623, it's cloudy and chilly this morning, 40 degrees, the high just in the upper fifties.

We'll get a weather update along the way from Brittany Merleau in just a little while.

Right now, Pam Yankee joins us from Midwest Farm Report.

Good morning, Pam.

Pam Yankee

Good morning.

Thanks.

Thanks.

For sure.

quite a change from the heat and humidity we picked up last week.

Gordy (host)

Oh yeah, this is incredible.

I'm actually going to enjoy this.

When

John (host)

the

Gordy (host)

dew points are gone, I'm happy.

I'm a happy person, all right.

John (host)

He's all about the dew

Gordy (host)

points.

I hate dew points.

Hey, a big announcement, the new Alice in Dairyland, huh?

Pam Yankee

Yeah, forward to it.

We met her on Saturday night.

Some of us had no honor.

Since she was a little girl, her name is Sarah Hagnell.

24 years old, grew up in Poinet, just recently graduated from the University of Minnesota with a degree in food science marketing and also international marketing.

She's been very involved in 4-H and FFA as a kid.

And then when she was up at the University of Minnesota, got involved with the Gopher Dairy Club up there, she's done quite an extensive amount of internships.

So she's definitely ready for the job.

On Saturday night, there was a couple different historical perspectives that those of us in agriculture or the followers of Alice and Dairyland probably didn't miss.

First of all, Crawford County had never hosted Alice and Dairyland previously, so that was the first time for them.

And wonderful turnout from what my reporters have told me.

More than 200 people that were at the beautiful Douseman host in Prairie de Sheen.

just a fantastic venue for the event.

And then a lot of our former Alice's were there as well, which is kind of a tradition.

If they can make it back, they do.

I know that not all 78 of them were there, but still.

And then the other historical perspective is the fact that Sarah is Ashley Hagenau's sister.

Now, if that rings a bell to you, Ashley Hagenau was our 76.

Alice in Dairyland.

So just two years ago, she wore the crown and tiara and spoke as Wisconsin's agriculture ambassador.

And now Sarah will be taking over the spot now.

It's going to take a couple of weeks before you actually get a chance to see Sarah out on the job, although she's super excited and obviously ready to go.

The Department of Ag Train Consumer Protection decided a couple of years ago that it's kind of a rough transition to start a brand new job as Alice in Dairyland.

in june dairy month you can imagine the calendar is pretty frenetic and there's a lot of different bells and whistles you've got to try to get used to so they postpone the beginning of the new alice's term until july so we'll get a chance to shadow our current alice hailey heinzel for a month or so and then we'll be on the job starting in july the other thing we found out on saturday night is that marathon county

is going to be hosting the 2026 Wisconsin Farm Technology Days.

That'll be May 14th through the 16th in Wausau.

And Sarah has committed to visiting Marathon County every month of her tenure so that she can help Marathon County prepare what's obviously going to be a fantastic event for 2026.

So and congratulations to mom and dad.

Lisa and Bob Hagenau from Poinet.

Bob the real player in the dairy industry has been his entire career and I'm sure he's just pumped up with pride this morning to have both of his girls.

getting to speak up for Wisconsin agriculture.

It's

Gordy (host)

almost sounds like a movie, doesn't it?

You know,

Pam Yankee

the two sisters

Gordy (host)

compare notes.

Yeah.

John (host)

Wow.

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

John (host)

Now we were talking about the, uh, the weather as we started out, it's a much cooler today.

And of course we had those big storms that rolled through last week.

And I understand they're still doing some cleanup in Dodge County.

Is that right, Pam?

Pam Yankee

And I know that, uh, folks have probably been seeing some of it on social media.

It just breaks your heart.

I mean, I've been watching a lot of my listeners have shared stories about particularly the Schmidt farm in Juneau.

We also saw a farm by Alto that was almost a direct hit with either straight line winds or tornado.

I'm sure National Weather Service will come out with more clarification.

But I want people to slow down and think about how it's tragic wherever these storms occur.

But if you're a dairy farm, it is so complicated to try to put pieces back together.

Immediately, you've got to try to figure out, first of all, veterinary care for those animals if they were injured, if they've got to be euthanized.

And then the next thing is, if the facility is gone, now I have to find a farm nearby where those cows can go.

Now, most farms that was counted are already pretty much at capacity.

So you're asking a big feat, a big favor of somebody to let foreign animals, literally animals you don't know, animals you may not know health on, to come into your herd.

Then the next thing is, where is that milk going to go?

the farm that you may be at was built for a certain capacity.

Now you're bringing your cows over.

Then it's the extended care of the animals that may still need some care but are being fed and milked.

And that's the other thing.

Where's the feed now?

The feed could be scattered across three counties by now.

How are you going to pull that back together?

So thoughts and prayers to those folks in Dodge County, the farmers that were hit because just once the storm ends, the real nightmare of the situation can just begin.

So I'll be following up with them to see if there's anything we can do or say.

John (host)

Well, you're right.

I mean, those cows have got to get milked twice a day, right?

Yeah.

I mean, that's still.

Pam Yankee

Wow.

And you don't think about, you don't, how many times have you driven around any place in Wisconsin?

The barn may be there, but it's been idle for so long.

There's no water.

There's no electricity.

There's no milk handling equipment.

I mean, there may be a building, but what the dairy farm needs as far as, like you said, milk and cows and doing that stuff, and then figure animals are creatures of habit.

Those cows don't know that barn.

They don't know where they're supposed to stand.

They don't know where the water in the feed is.

They're already agitated because they've been through a traumatic experience.

So like I said, I'm going to follow up with some of the veterinarians that were stepping in to try to help those farms after the storm had passed and see what the status situation is there.

I'll see if I can't pass a couple of notes on to you guys later.

John (host)

They'll like to hear about that.

Yeah.

Well,

Pam Yankee

very

John (host)

good, Pam.

We appreciate all you do for us here and for that update.

Midwest Farm Report, food and farm going to your table.

We have that all the time here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pam, have a good week.

We'll talk to you on Friday.

Yes.

Pam Yankee

See you later, boy.

All right, take care.

It's

John (host)

Pam Yankee.

In fact, that Midwest Farm Report is right around the corner.

And when we come back, idiocracy for a Monday morning.

Oh, boy, we got a lot.

Can't wait.

We got a lot to tell you.

I'm John and Gordy in the

Gordy (host)

morning.

you

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As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

John (host)

This is grade A weapons grade stupidity.

Just doing my civic duties.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fall each other right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot!

Unidentified Speaker

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

John (host)

Well, they're dumb all the time and we always say that Just a set the record straight Okay, you know, this is WMDX 2.7

Gordy (host)

All right, I got that in okay.

It's 635.

It's cloudy.

It's chilly.

John (host)

Yeah, this

Gordy (host)

morning grab a jacket.

Yeah, and it's gonna stay cool high about 57 today

John (host)

Okay, all things I was gonna say Sure, that's why we work together You know I'm just starting to get a clue that's why we're together

Gordy (host)

I'm just getting warmed up here.

It's a Monday.

Always a little slow to get things going on Monday.

John (host)

You know, the kid's going to be leaving us soon.

You know, he's going to be in the spring and from the past here.

By the way,

Sam (contributor)

I am younger than half of John's kids.

Gordy (host)

That's right.

You are.

OK.

By the way, you didn't did you?

show our new producer Dominic where the coffee machine is and I did.

Okay.

Did you inform him that we have to have fresh coffee all the time?

Dominic (new producer)

Oh, okay.

Good.

Our coffee guy is here.

Gordy (host)

Over here.

Come over this way.

Over here.

Okay.

There he goes.

Damn.

John (host)

Go away.

Just let him go.

He never sees us in here.

I know.

Oh, anyway.

Must be the mirrored windows.

Sam (contributor)

You know, he always says, does anybody want coffee?

He doesn't actually save.

that he's offering.

Gordy (host)

He's going to give it to him.

Sam (contributor)

Yeah.

Gordy (host)

You know, you can find that.

Actually, it's a video of this guy and he really, he just went into a convenience store, grabbed a pot of coffee and he had somebody, you know, camera guy with him and just started going around the store and then he goes out by the gas pumps and he's yelling.

Everybody's chasing him.

The people from the store, the cops show up.

It goes on and on.

Yeah,

John (host)

it's

Gordy (host)

good though, but we're glad he stops in here.

every once in a

John (host)

while.

Yeah, well, let's talk about, I was gonna say, you know, Sam is leaving and everything, he's leaving the nest and he went to an interesting bar that it's self-serve.

This is like a big experience for you here at Tamp House, is what they call them.

Sam (contributor)

Oh, are you talking about what I mentioned

John (host)

right when you came

Sam (contributor)

on?

Yeah, I went to, I was in New Glairs over the weekend, and my roommates and I biked down there.

We went to a place called The Dirty Dog, and

Unidentified Speaker

it

Sam (contributor)

was a game-changing experience for me.

It was this TAP house where you gave them

your credit card and then

Unidentified Speaker

they

Sam (contributor)

gave you a card that you could just swipe on any of 30 taps and try as many and as much beer as you wanted to.

That's dangerous.

John (host)

And what it does is it keeps track of how much you pour.

Sam (contributor)

It's kind of fun at the end of the night though, like when you get your receipt back, how much of each different kind that you got, my roommates and I were comparing and it was fun and interesting.

Gordy (host)

That's pretty cool.

So there's no bartender at all?

Not

John (host)

really, no.

Just

Gordy (host)

somebody at the checkout.

Right,

Sam (contributor)

yeah.

John (host)

See, I always thought, you know, doing the census in in Maisel, Mania, of all places, they have a tampon.

Right.

Isn't that crazy?

You were drinking on the job.

This small tiny little town.

All right.

Actually, I did.

Unidentified Speaker

Well, it

John (host)

was

Dominic (new producer)

the

John (host)

last place I visited.

I don't normally have any kind of alcohol before.

Obviously,

Dominic (new producer)

I'm not going to sit there.

I'm

John (host)

not going to sit there and talk to people, interviewing them.

It smells like he's been in a bar for a while.

That would not reflect well on the US government.

But it was my last call and it went in there.

It was kind of interesting and fun.

And these people, you know, small town like that, they obviously live there, so it's nice to support a local business like that.

But it's great to have, and we have, I believe we have one in Middleton as well.

Yeah,

Gordy (host)

there's one there, and I think up in Baraboo, they're sprouting up everywhere.

It's the new rage.

John (host)

It's the new thing.

I think there's one in Middleton that might be non-alcohol.

tap house, but I know you can go in there and buy all these different styles of liquor, but no alcohol in them.

They did

Sam (contributor)

have 1919 root beer on tap.

That was one of

John (host)

the options.

Oh, they did.

Wow.

That's kind of nice, isn't it?

That's good.

All right, let's get to a lot of this idiocracy that's out there.

You know, we're hearing about

We're hearing about the Medicaid cuts, right?

And we're really kind of surprised that the radical crazy man, Josh Hawley, is a senator, and he was starting to make sense to us.

Gordy (host)

That's right.

John (host)

When that happens, we have to feature it on this program.

So it's

Gordy (host)

unusual

John (host)

for him.

Yeah, so why don't we play this cut?

Josh Hawley actually making sense for once for the...

in regards to the cuts that they're making to Medicaid.

Let's listen.

Dominic (new producer)

Do you agree with the speaker?

Is this bill not a cut to Medicaid?

Josh Hawley (Senator)

Well, the right thing to do is not to cut Medicaid.

So I'm glad to hear him say that.

Manu, it ought to be just a basic foundational principle.

It is wrong to cut health care for the working poor.

And that's what we're talking about here with Medicaid.

My state is a Medicaid expansion state.

over 20 percent of Missourians, including hundreds of thousands of children, are on Medicaid and mono.

They're not on Medicaid because they want to be.

They're on Medicaid because they cannot afford health insurance in the private market.

These are working people and their children who need health care.

And it's just wrong to go and cut their health care when they're trying to make ends meet, trying to help their kids, trying to make sure that they're able to provide for their families.

So I hope that the House GOP and the Senate GOP will get the message here.

By the way, President Trump has said the same thing.

No Medicaid benefit cuts.

John (host)

Yeah, right.

Okay.

Well, anyway, pinch me, I must be dreaming.

Every once in a while they say something that makes sense.

Now, if you can think like that, then why don't you think like that about everything else that they're making cuts on?

But, yeah, who am I?

I'm just asking questions.

Gordy (host)

Well, I think that bill passed late last night.

John (host)

Oh, it did.

I didn't see that.

Now, I

Gordy (host)

don't know what, yeah, apparently it has passed, but I'm not sure what last minute changes they may have made

John (host)

to the bill.

Oh, you know, I saw a couple of pundits talk about this, you know, the possible vote, and what happens is these guys who come out strongly against it.

Yeah.

They change your minds right at the last moment.

I

Sam (contributor)

see your eyes are glancing upward.

Are they running the story on CNN

John (host)

right now?

Yes, they

Sam (contributor)

are.

John (host)

As

Sam (contributor)

holdouts

John (host)

change votes.

Yeah, that happens all the time.

These guys, it's a show.

That's all it is.

It's a performance.

Sam (contributor)

Everybody knows that politics is a show.

John (host)

Yeah.

Sam (contributor)

Well,

John (host)

now

Sam (contributor)

they

John (host)

do.

Well, I

Sam (contributor)

guess not

John (host)

everybody.

Well, I declared it now.

It is.

Everybody knows.

Thank you for doing that.

Here's a profound comment.

You know, we listen to Trump all the time on this program only because it's comedy.

To me, that's why we played this.

It's comedic.

You never know what he's going to say next.

Exactly.

But this is a guy in the crowd where it was a rally with Pete Buttigieg.

Dominic (new producer)

He

John (host)

was taking questions from the crowd.

And one guy stood up and he said, this is cut 114.

And he said something that just the crowd loved it and they even gave him a standing ovation.

Oh, yeah, this is great for this for this simple comment.

Unidentified Speaker

Let's

John (host)

listen

Talk in complete

Dominic (new producer)

sentences

John (host)

sometimes.

We've never done that.

Yeah, we could try, I guess.

I just love that.

By the way, I'm really angry with the pulp.

Where did that

Unidentified Speaker

come from?

What did he

John (host)

do?

He's only been Pope for a week.

Pope Leo the 14th.

He said some really, really awful things over the weekend.

What?

He came out against gay marriage.

Pope Francis tried to smooth all of that over.

He's not for it.

The Catholic Church isn't for it, but it's okay as long as you love the individual and everybody should.

to just get along.

Well, not with Pope Leo, okay?

That's not happening.

So, I'm really disappointed and that's all I can say.

Really, just one issue?

No, it's not just one issue.

I'm out with a bunch and I'm just bringing it up here.

I'm just not happy.

Okay, all right.

Can we expect more of further investigation of the Pope?

No, I don't really care.

See, I'm a Lutheran, you know?

That explains it

Sam (contributor)

any chance you get to bash the Pope you're taking it.

John (host)

I'm gonna take that shot Yes, no actually, you know Martin Luther he he came out against the Catholic Church And I firmly believe in what he believed in and you know the Catholic Church at that time way way way way back when they were forcing people to pay into the Catholic Church or you could not get Penance or whatever the hell they call it

So, you had to pay money, and Luther said, no, this isn't happening.

So, you know, the whole religion sprung up around that, and that's... He said this isn't happening.

Gordy (host)

That's a direct quote.

He started his

John (host)

own damn

Gordy (host)

church.

Thanks for that little history lesson through religion in our times.

I

John (host)

just barely remember some of this stuff from Sunday school.

Confirmation class in Sunday school.

OK.

Thanks for that refresher.

Appreciate it.

Well, thanks for pointing that out.

By the way, I'm making me look like a complete idiot.

It's OK.

It's not hard.

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Okay.

Well, why don't we hear

John (host)

something from the jovial orange man.

He made a really ridiculous comment.

It's cut 108 and and well, you know, he likes to play up to these individuals, the power players, the decaders, the kings, the princes.

He loves playing up to him.

Let's listen to this very short cut.

Unidentified Speaker

OK, I think we're good.

Young, attractive guy, tough guy, you know, strong pass or a strong pass fighter.

But he's got he's got a real shot at pulling it together.

John (host)

There it is.

A Syrian president.

He just loves a Syrian president.

Young, strong, zero attractive

Gordy (host)

boy.

You know, just you're wondering.

And now today, Trump is supposed to talk to Putin.

That's they're going to have a phone call.

They're going to have a phone conference today to sort

Sam (contributor)

out.

It's about time they caught up.

They haven't

Gordy (host)

even talked to each other.

They're old friends, right?

They're going to sort it out.

They're going to sort out the whole Ukrainian Russian war today.

figure

John (host)

it all out.

That's not really going to happen.

Not happening.

Let's talk about the crypto buyers.

They're mostly offshore was the big news recently anyway and analysis by Bloomberg News shows that all but six of the top 25 holders who have registered on the website

are offshore.

This is crazy stuff.

This means that there may be a pay-to-play thing going on here with Trump.

These individuals offshore, of course, by favor from the president and then get special treatment.

And that is what's taking place.

Gordy (host)

Shocking that

John (host)

you would do

Gordy (host)

something like this.

Pay-to-play.

I know.

John (host)

Who would have guessed that, right?

All right, now a recent case, of course, was before the Supreme Court recently, and Trump attorney didn't, I guess, say the best things to justice bear it.

Just one minute, is that it?

Less than a minute.

Less than a minute.

I'm a great chunk.

Trump's solicitor general, Sauer, told Kony...

Amy Comey Barrett, that Trump generally tries to respect federal court decisions, but he has the right to disregard legal opinions he personally disagrees with.

Really?

So, Comey Barrett seemed to be in disbelief from that comment directed at her and the other justices.

Gordy (host)

She was astonished.

John (host)

Yes.

Gordy (host)

Okay.

It is 648.

More idiocracy when we come back with John and Gordy in the morning.

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John (co-host)

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John (co-host)

You can test it out.

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All right.

Now, you know, we all...

I often talk to Tim Slacker, busted pencils about education, and one person's name always comes up, and that is Ryan Walters.

He's the superintendent of education in Oklahoma of all places, right?

I mean, this guy is a crazy man, he's a right winger, and he didn't get the big top spot, you know, the Department of Education spot.

Gordy (co-host)

That's right, he was kind of vying for that.

Maybe he should get into wrestling.

I hear that's what they're looking for these days.

Wrestling.

Oh,

John (co-host)

well that's true.

Linda McMahon.

Yes,

Vince.

So anyway, he had a little run-in with the local TV station there, and I just want to give you a little background

on this

because this is the big story.

I'm looking at the big picture here, not just Oklahoma and Ryan Walters and what he wants to do.

This is happening all over the country.

You know how the right-wing magus were complaining about how government

colluded supposedly with social media to block some of the misinformation that they were spreading on social media, right?

And that was horrible.

It was censorship, they called it.

Well, I don't know.

Now we have, I guess, this MAGA, the Ryan Walters, again, Superintendent of Education in Oklahoma.

He wants a censor, and he has censored.

This is the this is a big picture story.

Okay, it's not so much about Oklahoma again I'm just showing you what's happening across the country here.

Okay, so let's go back to 2024 and a judge had granted Oklahoma TV station KFOR they call it K4 a request for a temporary restraining order on Ryan Walters, okay, so let's just play this a little cut here.

Let's play

News Reader

KFOR TV, along with the Institute of Free Speech Today, filed a motion for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction.

For months, our journalists have been refused access to public, state board of education meetings and placed in an overflow room.

KFOR has also been excluded from press conferences held by Walters following those board meetings.

Walters and Isot claiming News 4 and its 75-year broadcast history is not a legitimate news organization.

John (co-host)

In addition, damages in the amount of $17.91.

Why that, you ask?

Well, because 1791 was the year the First Amendment to the U.S.

Constitution was ratified protecting freedom of speech.

And

there you go.

Okay.

Isn't that sweet?

They weren't looking for a money settlement.

They

were

just making a point

and they

did get that restraining order in place against Ryan Walters.

He was again censoring the TV station from covering his press conferences.

That's censorship.

That's

government censorship.

Okay.

You

Gordy (co-host)

think so?

John (co-host)

No?

Yeah.

Well, he's preventing that news agency from covering the

Gordy (co-host)

news.

Right, yeah.

All right.

So it's the exact same thing that's happening at the White House, them not allowing like AP and other groups into their press conferences.

John (co-host)

And they were told to put the AP back

Gordy (co-host)

in.

Put them back in, and they're back

John (co-host)

there.

So fast forward to now, Superintendent Ryan Walters lashed out at a local KFOR.

reporter for asking if he should take responsibility for the state being consistently rated at the bottom of education.

So let's

Ryan Walters (interviewee)

listen.

So let's take a look at that question.

Again, K-4 gets fundamentally wrong, which at least you're consistent of being wrong.

So we're not in the bottom of education.

We've continued to see dramatic increases in Oklahoma City and Tulsa.

No, y'all don't care to report facts.

Facts are stubborn.

Hey, look, K4.

I got it.

I got it.

You're fake news.

I got you.

The K4 will consistently report lies.

And I'm going to consistently call you out on those.

So thank you for the question.

Again, you couldn't be more wrong.

You guys are always wrong.

And Oklahoma taxpayers are tired of.

John (co-host)

They're actually

Ryan Walters (interviewee)

right.

They're tired of your lies.

They are tired of the media not putting a spotlight on an issue like the budget.

K-4 doesn't want to talk about that.

They don't want to talk about the amounts, the cost to taxpayers.

They don't care.

And so, folks, I gave you a question.

You don't like my answer.

That's okay.

So what you're going to continue to see is fake news like K-4.

Try to cover up the major issues facing American families.

Oklahoma families, do you want more money in your pocket or not?

Do you want your income taxed?

I think the answer is no.

I hear it every day.

Do you want your property tax for the rest of your life?

I think the answer is no.

So I'm gonna continue to fight against lobbyist special interest, fake news media outlets, and I will continue to defend the people of Oklahoma unapologetically.

John (co-host)

All right, I just want to interrupt here.

You know, we're running out of time, but the fact is they came in 48th out of 50 states.

So they are at the bottom of the education rankings, okay?

Okay.

And he wants to cut funding to education.

This is the guy,

he's

superintendent.

Yeah.

Hey, coming up on our next hour, we'll talk to former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin, also Springsteen versus Trump coming up.

John

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Gordy

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

What a beautiful, beautiful morning, huh?

Oh, it's gorgeous.

A little chilly out there, but... Kind of cloudy.

Yeah, we kind of need a little break, right, from the yard work.

Yeah.

When it's cold like this, you don't want to go outside.

You want to bundle up indoors and just, you know, huddle in a corner someplace, shield yourself from the rest of the world and all the politics that's out there.

John

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Gordy

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What do we, producer elect?

Well, he wasn't elected.

I like that.

Gordy

Something like that?

Okay,

John

let's go with that.

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So there's a big row, a big row between Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump, right?

Boy, there really is.

How did this all get started anyway?

Gordy

Well, Donald Trump

John

just went nuts on Springsteen for

Gordy

some reason.

And I have the whole Springsteen.

response speech they gave okay at one of his concerts that that really riled up Trump but he started off Trump did at least with a note on truth social which is a place where there isn't any truth at all but he did post has anyone noticed that since I said I hate Taylor Swift she's no longer hot

John

she just

came off a big tour.

Gordy

That's what he thinks.

I mean, that's his opinion.

She

John

made like $2 billion on this world tour.

Gordy

Yeah, she's just wrapped up.

She's kind of taking a break, I would think.

But, you know, why stop there?

Then Trump blew up over Springsteen's comments during his European tour.

And let's play cut 132.

This is Springsteen.

And this is his speech that he gave just before his concert.

Let's listen.

Bruce Springsteen

It's great to be in Manchester and back in the UK.

Welcome to the land of hope and dreams tour.

The mighty E Street Band is here tonight to call upon the righteous power of art, of music, of rock and roll in dangerous times.

Gordy

Oh yeah.

Bruce Springsteen

In my home.

The America I love, the America I've written about, that has been a beacon of hope and liberty for 250 years is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, and treasonous administration.

Tonight,

We ask all who believe in democracy and the best of our American experience to rise with us, raise your voices against authoritarianism and let freedom ring.

The last check on power after the checks and balances of government have failed are the people.

You and me.

It's in the union of people around a common set of values.

Now that's all it stands between democracy and authoritarianism.

Gordy

Trump's listening to this, you know.

Bruce Springsteen

In America, they are persecuting people for using their right to free speech and voicing their dissent.

This is happening now.

Gordy

That's right.

Bruce Springsteen

In America,

The richest men are taking satisfaction in abandoning the world's poorest children to sickness and death.

This is happening now.

In my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict on loyal American workers.

They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation that led to a more just and plural society.

They're abandoning our great allies and siding with dictators against those struggling for their freedom.

They're defunding American universities.

that won't bow down to their ideological demands.

They're removing residents off American streets and without due process of law are deporting them to foreign detention centers and prisons.

This is all happening now.

A majority

of our elected representatives have failed to protect the American people from the abuses of an unfit president and a rogue government.

Gordy

All right, nailed

Bruce Springsteen

it.

They have no concern or idea of what it means to be deeply American.

The America that I've sung to you about for 50 years is real.

And regardless of its faults, it's a great country with a great people.

So we'll survive this moment.

I have hope because I believe in the truth of what the great American writer James Baldwin said.

He said, in this world, there isn't as much humanity as one would like.

But there's enough.

Let's pray.

Gordy

Yeah, great stuff Bruce Springsteen.

Yeah off the top.

Yeah, yeah reading off a teleprompter No, just laying it out there, right and Trump was listening to Replays of that.

I'm sure over and over and over again did not like it and the malignant narcissism kicked in because Truth social where nothing is truthful.

He wrote this

I see that highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to a foreign country to speak badly about the President of the United States.

Never liked him, never liked his music or his radical left politics, and importantly, he's not a talented guy.

Just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently supported Crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent fool in our worst

ever president who came close to destroying our country.

I don't even, I don't know who he's talking about.

John

He never liked his music and yet he played born in the USA

Gordy

during his

John

first campaign at all the campaign rallies.

Springsteen objected to that and told him not to play it, but he played it anyway.

Yeah.

Gordy

Didn't understand

John

the lyrics to the song.

No, he

Gordy

didn't.

He continued this.

This is the last part of what he wrote.

Okay.

If I wasn't elected,

It would have been gone, the country that is.

Sleepy Joe didn't have a clue.

Of course, you know, here we have, you know, video of Trump sleeping in all these situations, like the Pope's funeral, right?

Right.

He slept in one of the society of Arabia.

I think he was right.

He was

John

dozed off there.

Gordy

Okay.

He was tired.

Sleepy Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing, but Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see what was going on.

Or could he?

which is even worse.

He continued, this dried out prune of a rocker, his skin is all atrophied, ought to keep his mouth shut until he gets back into the country.

That's just standard fare.

Then we'll all see how it goes for him.

So what is that?

Is that a

John

threat?

Veiled

Gordy

threats?

Not that veiled.

No.

See again, he said, then we'll see how it goes for him when he gets back to the country.

See that's mob talk.

It is.

Mr. Moser himself.

Wow.

He's

John

gotten his future.

Gordy

So anyway, that is, that's a big story.

And, you know, you just have to hand it to Springsteen for just laying out on the line.

Absolutely.

That was a great speech.

John

Yeah.

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Gordy

Yeah.

Now, one of the crazy things, again, it's censorship when the government tells somebody they can't say something and Trump is all full of censorship.

He loves censorship.

You know, they complain about censorship by the left, but boy, do they love pushing that stuff around.

Like, you know, Trump's anti-DEI

bands, right?

I mean, he can't say that three combined words is an idea that should be banned.

He can't do that.

There's a first amendment to all of this.

Again, and this anti-DEI movement is really a racist movement.

And anything that even hints at helping minorities is racist, according to him.

But this is something I went back and got.

This is Jay Silveria.

University of Arkansas system president now but back in 2017 he was the head of the Air Force Academy and he had these words this is a speech he gave to the Academy and this is this obviously be in jail today if he gave this speech.

Check this out this again is Jay Saveria now president of the University of Arkansas but back then Air Force Academy this is what he told them.

Bruce Springsteen

unclear on where I stand on this topic.

I'm gonna leave you with my most important thought today.

If you can't treat someone with dignity and respect, then you need to get out.

If you can't teach someone from another gender, whether that's a man or a woman, with dignity and respect, then you need to get out.

If you demean someone in any way,

then you need to get out.

And if you can't treat someone from another race or a different color skin with dignity and respect, then you need to get out.

Grab your phones, I want you to videotape this so that you have it, so that you can use it.

So that we all have the moral courage together.

This is our institution.

And if you need it and you need my words, then you keep these words.

and you use them and you remember them and you share them and you talk about them.

Gordy

There you go.

Bruce Springsteen

Who's that

Gordy

again?

That's Jay Silveria.

He is the University of Arkansas president, but back then the Air Force Academy, head of the Air Force Academy.

So great words of wisdom and now those words are banned pretty much anyway.

I believe it.

Government censorship.

I believe it's called that.

You know, just reminding everybody that the people who really want to censor things are the magas, obviously.

John

And before we get to the break here, and we'll

Gordy

be

John

talking with Brittany Merleau here in just a moment.

Gordy

Let me just find out what's going on in the weather because I

John

forgot my WMDX weather watch.

I know, yeah.

And it's, you know, it's thrown us all off here.

We don't know when the

Gordy

sunrise

John

is or the sunset.

We, you know, clueless

Gordy

without

John

that watch.

I apologize.

I let everybody down.

It takes a lot.

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cool cold.

day today coming up.

It's chilly, kind of breezy and pretty cloudy at the moment.

I think we may get some rain later on today or tonight.

That's right.

You know, if only there was a way we could find out

Gordy

this information.

John

I don't even think we need to

Gordy

talk to Brittany Merlot anymore because we just gave the weather forecast.

John

Well, no, no, no.

We'll just skip her today.

What are you talking about?

We need more information.

We can't just go by what I said.

And we need Brittany Merlot here and

What do you know?

Here

Gordy

she is.

We're just going by

John

the

Gordy

gossip around the station.

That's all I'm sorry, Brittany.

Go ahead.

Give

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

us an idea.

All the gossip.

It's a water cooler

Gordy

talk.

John

I mean,

Gordy

it's really cool out there

John

this

Gordy

morning.

What's happened?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

I know it feels like fall.

What's going on?

We're supposed to be going into summer and it feels like we skipped right over summer with a crisp breeze.

I mean, temperatures up north.

We had a freeze warning this morning.

Gordy

Wow.

Man, no.

It's getting

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

32 degrees in the middle of May.

This is crazy.

But hey, those clouds cleared and we dropped cold and now we've got these winds just blasting us out of the Northeast.

Probably around 25 miles per hour today, but tomorrow they're going to pick up again, gusting around 40 out of the East.

Yeah, it's going to be gross over the next few days.

SPEAKER_??

What?

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

I know we need the rain though.

We've kind of got some drought conditions starting to sneak up from the south.

So what we're looking at is possibly a few light sprinkles this afternoon, more unlikely than likely.

But by midnight, we've got that rain pushing in, maybe some rumbles of thunder.

It's going to be moderate to heavy at times.

It's going to continue through tomorrow with those winds gusting temperatures only in the mid fifties.

So it's really going to be feeling probably like the low forties tomorrow, damp, dreary, probably a good inch to an inch and a half of rainfall by

Gordy

the time

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

this kicks out of here on Wednesday.

So we'll still see spotty showers through Wednesday and then some sunshine on Thursday.

Then the warmer air starts to move back in.

But I'm not I shouldn't have said warm, mild.

It's only going to go from the mid fifties this week to about the mid sixties as we go into the weekend.

But it will be dry and sunny this weekend.

So well, I like the timing of it.

John

Yeah, Memorial Day weekend.

Everybody wants to know what's going to be happening.

Gordy

Especially people with tents up and back

John

yard gazebos.

Yeah, it's

Gordy

a time

John

to take down my gazebo in the backyard.

I

Gordy

would tie it down for tomorrow, but then after that, you're good to go.

That darn thing.

He

runs my life.

Yeah,

he puts it up so early.

You know, we have to like worry about it for like

John

three months.

It's fine.

It's good.

All right.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Do you have lights on it yet, though?

John

I do have lights on.

It came in with built-in lights.

Yeah.

Brittany Merlot (meteorologist)

Oh, my goodness.

That's right.

Put

John

the batteries in, and away you go.

Yeah.

Gordy

Does it change colors?

John

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

You should come over sometime.

I know you don't know where I live anymore.

Just

Gordy

go ball up in

John

there.

Working on it.

Working on it.

All right, Brittany, thank you for that update.

Thanks, guys.

We appreciate it.

We'll talk to you tomorrow.

That's WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlo.

Yeah.

Well, you

Gordy

know, we're wondering, we heard Trump earlier talking about, you know, how much he loves the Middle East and some of the people that live there.

And, you know, he really, he really loves...

Just taking these long trips, you know shaking hands making

John

money grab.

Gordy

It's a it's that's what I meant to say

John

We talking about it's a money grab came back with a four hundred million dollar plane At least that's you know, we haven't figured that out yet.

Is that actually gonna happen or not?

Gordy

Yeah, never know but why don't we find out from Jordan Klepper?

All right daily show he takes a look at trims latest foreign trip.

Let's let's listen

Jordan Klepper (recording)

It's in the Saudis' interest to give Trump the royal treatment, but I'm sure the president of the United States understands that the Saudi crown prince is not without baggage.

Just a few years ago that he murdered an American journalist, so I'm sure the president will keep a healthy distance from the crown prince.

John

I like him a lot.

I like him too much.

That's why we give so much, you know?

Too much.

I like you too much.

Jordan Klepper (recording)

Yeah, I agree.

You might like him too much.

Regardless, you know what?

It was a very nice start to this trip abroad, where he'll visit not just Saudi Arabia, but then Qatar and then the UAE.

But you might be wondering, why did Trump pick these countries for his first foreign trip?

Well, there's a strong geopolitical balance of... I'm f***ing with you!

Corruption.

Gordy

His sons, who now run the Trump Organization, have lucrative real estate deals in the works in all three countries the president is visiting.

Jordan Klepper (recording)

The Trump boys have projects in all three countries.

I never thought I'd say this, but can't these countries go back to doing something more constructive like funding terrorism?

Gordy

There you go.

There was a time, by the way, that Trump wasn't a big fan of Cutter.

Let's listen to this.

It's Cut 133.

Okay.

All right.

This is him on Cutter.

Donald Trump (recording)

The nation of Qatar, unfortunately, has historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level.

And in the wake of that conference, nations came together and spoke to me about confronting Qatar over its behavior.

So we had a decision to

Gordy

make.

Donald Trump (recording)

Do we take the easy road or do we finally take a hard but necessary action?

Gordy

Abribe you made

Donald Trump (recording)

we have to stop the funding of terrorism.

I decided

Gordy

yeah,

Donald Trump (recording)

okay along with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

Gordy

didn't like

Donald Trump (recording)

our great generals and military people

Gordy

You fired him

Donald Trump (recording)

the time had come to call On guitar to end its funding They have to end that funding and it's extremist

Ideology in terms of funding.

Gordy

Yes, so

Donald Trump (recording)

I want to call it all of the nations to stop immediately.

Gordy

Yes

Donald Trump (recording)

Supporting terrorism.

Gordy

There you go.

Donald Trump (recording)

Okay, national Military or even moral support

Gordy

there you go.

So he's supplying now the moral support for cutter Taking bribes.

John

All right

Hey, coming up next.

Times have changed.

After we check in with the Midwest Farm Report, Food and Farm going to your table, we'll check in with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.

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Time once again to talk to Paul Socklin, former mayor of Madison.

They have a big statue of Paul at the Capitol.

I'm just kidding.

They do.

Wait a

minute.

I haven't seen that.

They

should you're pushing for that weren't you Paul at one time Good grief No Man okay Paul the big story of course here in Madison big story all over the place is the fact that Madison Metro had a very successful year So what do you think about the new bus system now?

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

Well, I'm still I still have some questions

We're not sure the size of the investment.

And we're talking at least 200 million.

It may already have been closer to 300 million.

So it's had a good year compared to the last three or four years.

But when you go back to its peak ridership years, 2015, 2017, that period, the question is,

If you make a two to $300 million capital investment, shouldn't you see improvement in ridership?

And we haven't.

It's not, it's not led to greater ridership.

John

I thought the numbers said that the ridership is up.

Over last year.

Yeah.

So they're calling, they're calling this a victory at this point.

Sam

Well, last I heard the numbers were as high as they had been since 2019, pre-COVID.

Yes, 2019.

Which is pretty good, and I guess for better, better than the last five, six years, but still.

John

That's right.

So Paul, I want to ask you, are you aware of any federal funding for that system?

Sam

Did we lose Paul?

Paul?

maybe he hung up on us he was so sick of talking to you guys about the okay what can

John

you you want to call him there we go guys

Sam

oh there he is

John

oh he's here okay sorry paul we lost you there for a minute

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

okay so i don't know what part of my response was missed so i'll just start over okay

John

No, everything we heard everything you said except then I interrupted and I said but the numbers at least seem to be that the ridership is up and Sam mentioned that it's it's it's at 19 or a 2019 levels.

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

All right, so it's nice that it's above 2019 or it's approaching the 2019 level.

But the point I'm making is if you make a 200 or 300 million dollar investment shouldn't you have

a record level of ridership, which we don't have.

All we've got is improvement over the COVID years.

And so if we take the stated objective of BRT, which was to increase ridership particularly to the three major employment centers of the city, east town, west town and downtown, what

Sam

we

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

haven't seen

is any improvement in that ridership from what the system was before BRT.

And that I find troublesome.

I mean, how do you justify that kind of investment without any improvement in ridership?

John

But yeah, aren't you not, you're not taking into consideration in the next 10 years, 20 years.

I mean, this is a major investment in the future, isn't it?

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

It is but and then and then you're right.

We'll have to see what happens in the next few years I'm fearful that because of cuts made to areas that weren't BRT Let's say neighborhoods along the south belt line from say Park Street running out to Gammon Road the area around Warner Park

the cuts and services that were made to the east side, east of Stoughton Road in that area, that those cuts in service are going to lead, have led to a permanent loss in ridership.

Here's the critical thing about bus service.

When you're dependent upon public transit,

you have to have all of your needs served.

And so if a critical route is lost, what the family is more likely to do is to buy a used vehicle.

I mean, this is what we learned when we built the system in the 70s.

When you lose them to a second car or even a first car, you've in effect lost them for at least a decade.

because now they have to maximize the investment in that vehicle.

And so I'm fearful that while the BRT routes themselves, the critical routes that run along Mineral Point Road that go out East Washington, have resulted in an increase in ridership, the net increase doesn't exist because we've lost people in other parts of the system.

So the time will tell.

John

Now is it possible because of the success rate now?

I mean it's slowly growing.

Is it possible because of this growth that they could expand some of the lines that they discontinued in order to pay for the system?

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

I don't think so.

Because they're already stretched financially in terms of operating expenses.

So that to me was

Shall we say the flaw and the premise of the redesign right?

Oh was was losing was was willing to take a hit in regards to those peripheral areas it's a Bus system is a lot like a grocery store, and you've got to have you have lost leaders But if you do away with your lost leaders, you're gonna lose people

on your successful profitable routes.

Actually, there's no profitable routes in public transit, but on the routes that do better.

John

Talking to former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin, Paul, what do you think about the, how is it gonna play into the bus routes when they start the John Nolan project, the lakeside expansion and redevelopment over there?

Would that tend to help out?

bus ridership because people are going to have trouble

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

getting through

John

John Nolan.

Once that

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

project starts, any disruption to the automobile is going to give you at least some modest increase in public transit along those routes.

So, you know, a lot of people try to find workarounds to get around them.

I think the biggest, the biggest

of hope and the success for BRT is going to be the effort to get greater density along the major bus routes.

In other words, get more people living on East Washington Avenue, the Mineral Point Corridor, University Avenue.

That is the best for BRT.

It does not solve the problem of the system being financially strapped and bringing back service to those peripheral areas that I described before.

But for the BRT part of the system itself, the higher residential densities is where it's at.

But the one thing we're yet to see, and I'll have to produce the documentation, is that the premise of BRT was to get

Particularly for people of color, greater access to the three employment centers.

And we haven't seen any evidence of that yet.

John

All right.

And I had one other question, and that was, did we not get some kind of federal funding for this?

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

Oh, massive.

A couple hundred million dollars.

John

Was that still in effect?

I mean, we know that, you know, a lot of that stuff was clawed back by the Trump administration.

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

All right, so the federal assistance is not for operating costs, but for capital costs to buy the buses, build the bus shelters, do the required improvements to the streets.

So that money we got, we spent, and you can see it in the existing east-west line.

Now, the big thing that we've all got to be nervous about

is what is the Trump administration going to do in regards to the North-South route, the proposal that would come out of the end of Park Street and head eventually towards the Warner Park area.

Pessimistically, and being realistic, it's got to be the exact kind of project that

Trump wants to kill on all sorts of levels.

He hates public transit.

He hates anything with an equity goal in it.

Yes.

And so our city's BRT project has to have a target on its back from Trump.

Hopefully the next president will, whoever follows Trump will in turn

start the justifiable refunding of the program.

And so it'll put the North-South route figure four years behind schedule.

John

All right.

Well, that answers that.

I was worried about the drop in federal funding.

Paul Soglin (former mayor of Madison)

I think there's every reason to be concerned about what Trump's going to do.

John

Now, Paul, the next time we talk, could you just, I want you to think about this, but way back when you were mayor, when you were here in Madison, I want to find out what the most important part of that era was for you.

Was it the political movement?

Was it the music scene here in town?

Was it the protest?

What was it?

Think about it, because the next time you're a guest on this program, I want you to go into... We're gonna

grill you up.

In

depth.

This is your life, Paul.

I'm ready,

okay.

Okay, and keep working on that book.

Get that thing done.

All

right.

Thank you.

Take care.

That's

former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.

We appreciate him being with us.

We'll talk to him again.

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Back to Wrap Things Up with Leftovers on John and

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Gordon.

Gordy (co-host)

Terrific if you like eating leftovers.

Sam (regular contributor)

Leftovers.

Leftovers?

Gordy (co-host)

I get the leftovers.

The leftovers!

Just some leftovers.

Sam (regular contributor)

Leftovers for a week and a

Gordy (co-host)

half.

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Leftovers.

Enjoy.

John (host)

All right, we'll try to enjoy as many of them as we can.

Sometimes leftovers

Weather Reporter

are the best part of the meal,

John (host)

right?

Well, I'm thinking that, yes.

Weather Reporter

752.

It's cool.

It's cloudy and breezy.

About 40 degrees this morning.

Take a jacket or sweater.

Head outside the door.

John (host)

The John and Gordy jacket or sweater.

Weather Reporter

Highest today in the upper fifties.

That's all we're gonna get to today

John (host)

more swag That's what the whole thing is about is that we're trying to you know stock up these store shelves Yeah at the John and Gordy store here on State Street,

Weather Reporter

and if anybody has some overly ripe bananas We're looking we're looking for overly ripe bananas because we're gonna have this banana bread contest I thought we had this all set

John (host)

up and ready

Weather Reporter

to go.

John (host)

Please don't throw but

Weather Reporter

nobody's got enough bananas.

Oh here

John (host)

comes Catherine

Weather Reporter

I

Sam (regular contributor)

keep changing the day

John (host)

because my son likes bananas you

eats them all, they do not get old enough.

You need to

Sam (regular contributor)

hoard some away.

Gordy (co-host)

So they have to be really...

Sam (regular contributor)

He thinks so.

I think any

Gordy (co-host)

banana

John (host)

would work.

Sam (regular contributor)

Any banana is going to turn into an old banana once you put it in the oven, John.

Really?

Gordy (co-host)

The sugar

Sam (regular contributor)

will come

Gordy (co-host)

out.

John (host)

Is that the trick?

No, it doesn't have quite the flavor.

What's wrong with you people?

But do I do we have to get into a just-ass John episode here?

We do

Gordy (co-host)

because and what we're gonna do is we're gonna compete.

Let's make it Friday.

Let's make it Friday.

We have all

John (host)

Friday make our

Gordy (co-host)

bananas old.

Sam (regular contributor)

All right

Gordy (co-host)

Dominic can get in on it or Dominic can just taste you know

Sam (regular contributor)

He doesn't have anything in his house yet.

He slept on the floor in his new apartment

Gordy (co-host)

for the first month of living here.

Yeah

John (host)

You

Gordy (co-host)

still

Sam (regular contributor)

you have

Gordy (co-host)

back pain yet.

No, I couldn't get over I couldn't I built a bed out of all the blankets.

I didn't have to use

It was sad, but now I have a furlough mattress and everything's good.

It's all

Weather Reporter

good.

Okay, so the banana bread contest is gonna happen Friday.

Gordy (co-host)

All right?

Okay,

Weather Reporter

that's it.

What?

Gordy (co-host)

Come on, just go get them today.

John (host)

Put them in a bag.

I'll watch you guys compete.

Gordy (co-host)

Oh my God, you're great, aren't you?

That's

John (host)

me.

It

Gordy (co-host)

was a chicken.

There he is.

You wanna compete or not?

Come on.

John (host)

By the way, how's the stuff going with our WMTX weather window?

We're selling little weather windows.

Remember at the shop?

That's right.

That's right.

They're coming along.

They're coming along.

They're working

Weather Reporter

progress.

It's workshopping a little

John (host)

bit.

The little weather windows are never wrong.

You could always look through them and see exactly

Sam (regular contributor)

what's going on.

John, it's a little expensive and difficult to produce a window that is never wrong in its weather forecast.

John (host)

It really is difficult.

Well, no, if you just look through it, you can see what's happening.

It's never wrong.

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I have no idea why you guys are complaining about it, you know.

And there's a deluxe version made out of tempered glass.

I didn't know that.

Really?

That's cool.

Yes.

This thing is... Is it bulletproof too?

Well, that's next.

That's a super new and improved one that, well, we're working on, right?

We're

Gordy (co-host)

working

John (host)

on it.

I mean, it's never wrong.

It tells you exactly what's going on outside.

You just look for it.

Except the

Gordy (co-host)

temperature, because this window doesn't

John (host)

open.

No, no, it has a feel.

It has, what does it have?

Oh, you have a touch screen.

So you can touch

Gordy (co-host)

and see what the temperature is.

John (host)

Oh, here it is.

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Perfect.

It's amazing.

It

Gordy (co-host)

changes with the weather.

It changes with the weather, but the problem is if you touch it and it's because it's got the suns on it, it's going to be warm, but then you go outside and it could very well in Wisconsin be sunny but cold.

John (host)

But it's accurate.

Sam (regular contributor)

Okay.

All right.

It doesn't account for windshields.

That's coming in in a future

John (host)

update.

Oh, yes, the windshield.

I forgot all about that.

Yeah, the

Sam (regular contributor)

windshield doesn't exist anymore, remember, though?

Oh, yeah.

Oh,

Gordy (co-host)

that's right.

Weather Reporter

That's right.

Dominic how you doing on your first day

Gordy (co-host)

here?

Look

Weather Reporter

what

Gordy (co-host)

you walked into

Weather Reporter

Don't go by what you've seen so far

John (host)

really it's much

Weather Reporter

better

John (host)

Well, you know, we always warn people that Monday is always just a little more difficult.

It is.

Gordy (co-host)

I didn't hear you interview Dominic.

Like,

John (host)

who the hell is this guy?

No, we did.

We mentioned it earlier this morning that Dominic is our new producer.

Going through the training part of it right now.

But

Weather Reporter

we haven't really grilled him yet.

We

John (host)

haven't

Weather Reporter

put him through the paces yet.

We're going to give him a day or two to get settled

John (host)

in.

First, we have to introduce him to the mistake I always make with the numbering system.

There's a

Gordy (co-host)

code there.

There's a code.

There's a way

Sam (regular contributor)

to figure it out, Sam.

We've already made a mistake today.

You had two cut 126s.

Very good.

Gordy (co-host)

Something to look forward to, Dominic.

John (host)

OK.

Business Gordy, go ahead.

We're good.

We have just a minute and a half here.

What do you want to do?

How about this?

The Walmart CEO announced it will raise prices on some of the items in their store, given the magnitude of the tariffs that are out there, right?

Weather Reporter

Yeah.

John (host)

But then, of course, the malignant one.

had to make a comment about that, his micromanaging style that he has out on TruthSocial, where nothing is really truthful.

He said Walmart should stop trying to blame tariffs for the reason for raising prices.

Walmart made billions of dollars last year far more than expected between Walmart and China.

They should eat the tariffs.

Wait a minute.

What do you mean eat the tariffs?

I thought the tariffs were paid by China.

Why should they?

No, isn't it Mexico is playing the

Gordy (co-host)

tariffs?

John (host)

No,

Gordy (co-host)

it was Canada.

Like China playing

John (host)

the, um, anybody

Sam (regular contributor)

and everybody.

Gordy (co-host)

Oh, it's the Penguin Island.

John (host)

Yes.

That's right.

That's right.

Between Walmart and China, they should eat the tariffs and not charge valued customers anything.

Weather Reporter

Walmart okay with

John (host)

that?

So if Trump is aware that the customers would be paying more...

unless Walmart ate the tariff.

I'm just let it go.

Weather Reporter

Hey, that's going to wrap it up for our Monday show.

Stephanie Miller is coming up next.

We will talk to you in 22 hours.

Really?

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, start your stopwatch.

Have a great day so long.

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