Chaos, Milk, and Medicaid Madness (Hour 2)

John and Gordy in the morning Gordy is not feeling well and it would take an awful lot for a radio veteran to not come into work Doesn't normally happen I Don't know in the old days Sam the producers here as well, you know, we're we're doing our best We're

trying to see how the John and Sam show goes.

Yeah.

Yeah, this is an audition

Maybe you'll give up on teaching after this, I know.

But at least now you probably had enough sleep.

Yesterday was a bad day for

you.

Yeah, I took like a two and a half hour nap yesterday.

It was great.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, it takes a lot for a radio veteran not to come in simply because in the old days we didn't have people to fill in.

We didn't hire people to just, you know, pop in and take over a show in case somebody was sick.

We came in anyway, you know, came in absolutely sick and spreading that disease throughout the radio station.

That was just part of the job.

Anyway, so here we are.

And Gordy is not feeling well enough to make it in today.

And so we will push on.

All right, we will push it.

It's not like we don't have enough stuff to get to here.

Let's see.

I've been

saying we got to bust out the paper shredder to just like put you out of your misery and take your take the stories that you worked so hard to put together even though they're far out of date.

We just got to get rid of them in some way.

Yeah, yeah.

But luckily, I

shouldn't say luckily, but today Gordy's gone.

So

you

can you can have a dumpster fire Friday on a Wednesday.

Almost.

Yeah, we might actually resort to getting a lot a lot to those those old stories that we haven't gotten to make them sound current, you know.

But we do have a load of stuff for idiocracy this morning.

We're jam packed, as you can see by the outline this morning.

It's crazy stuff.

Absolutely crazy stuff.

So we're ready.

In fact, I kind of packed it up just in case Gordy couldn't make it in.

Did you lower the font size so you could fit more stories on here, John?

I wouldn't put it past

you.

No, actually, I don't know how to do that.

You were the one who controlled the settings on this outline.

It's Google Docs.

Yeah.

No one's ever a big fan of Google Docs, but here we are.

You're

right.

I've got a bone to pick with Google.

Well, there's so many things that I don't like about Google, but you just have to use them for

so many things these days.

You're stuck with it, right?

That's how your kids feel about iPhones and Apple.

Yeah, they really, really don't like either.

The thing with Apple, and this is kind of taken off now, is that when people have their phones stolen,

They can't recover all of the information all their personal information that they have on that phone and the person who's stolen the phone can lock you out and for some reason Apple has not figured out a way

to let you recover your information.

Android seems OK with that.

Did this

happen to one of you guys?

No, I just read a story on it, and it was devastating.

And Apple just does not want to back down.

They will not release your own information.

I mean, these are people who have grown up with.

cell phones.

And I have the entire history on that cell phone.

Yeah,

that's sort of me.

Backed up to the cloud.

And when it's stolen, it is gone for good because Apple just won't recover the data and block out the other person who's stolen the phone.

It's a public service announcement

to back up your phones.

Well, yeah, if you have an iPhone, my God, I mean, this is not an issue for Android.

It's not.

Maybe somebody should take a look at Android and see why that.

Well, yeah, you know, Android have been with Android a long time.

Of course, I've hated Apple.

Forever?

Forever.

Forever.

That's a hot take.

They've done some good things.

I can't understand as something early on that really bothered me about Apple.

And I thought, well, that's pretty unfair.

If they went with Pear

or Grapes as their company name and company logo, Pear or Grapes or strawberries, that would have been a little better.

Well, maybe it would have been better.

Maybe you could accept it more fully.

But something happened early on that just made me hate Apple completely.

Don't know what it is, I can't remember.

But I think may have been price.

Well,

yeah, they've always been expensive.

Very expensive, yeah.

Let's take a look at the weather.

I can't see your WMDX thermometer in there, but luckily I have one just like it in my window here in the producer's WMDX window.

Current temperature I'm seeing is 46 degrees outside.

It's a little cloudy looking out the window.

Looks like we're gonna have blue skies today.

Do you have the WMDX Samsung watch ready?

I I do and it's a It's a little questionable at this point.

Let me try to update it.

There it is We're at 52 according to the Samsung watch and a high today of 71 degrees.

So it's gonna

be

warm

rain today, isn't it also

I

I don't know.

Well, I guess

we'll have to talk to Brittany.

We're

gonna have

to wait till Brittany gets in here.

Yeah, we're gonna force people to listen to the show to get their weather update

here.

Without any weather, they won't know what to do.

Exactly.

Bumble in the walls.

I don't know what they're gonna do.

But it's cloudy out there right now.

So by the way, I just want to mention too that it's a competition.

Gordy tells you what the high temperature is going to be for the day.

I predicted the high temperature and it was exactly that yesterday No,

no,

no, I just you know when I look at it late in the afternoon when the supposed high temperatures reached at that point.

I'm right Okay, the WMDX Samsung watch is right.

It's not like anything I'm doing that can do this

You're not the weather sage.

You can go up on the roof, put his arms in the air, and then have divine inspiration about what the high temperature is going to be.

That's right.

It's a funny thing.

Gordy was in weather at Channel 15 for many years.

And when I was on the radio, I would make fun of weather people constantly.

I'd come up with different weather spotter ideas, just stupid things that they'd make

up.

Did you do this in his presence, like when

he was with

you on the show?

No.

Well, yeah, we kind of did it as well when he was on the show at 92 out in the cornfield in Sudbury.

That was kind of fun.

And he loved it.

He didn't like all the gimmicks.

So we're kind of real people here, right?

Alright, well, anyway, we've got to get to the National Day Calendar.

You do have to get to the National Day Calendar.

We do.

Are you

going to read

it?

No, I'm not.

Yeah, I'm going to read it, but we don't have a fake day, okay?

Because there's no one to play with.

Oh.

You can't let

me fake you out?

No, I'm not going to do that.

All right.

Oh, did you prepare something?

Well, I pulled all the pages up.

Well, I might have the pages.

Okay.

It's National Lost Dog Awareness Day today.

Very sad.

Be aware of the lost.

I

thought the picture was funny.

It's got a dog with like his little hobo sack, a bandana on a string,

and all

of his earthly possessions.

Yeah, it's still the look, you know, the look, and knowing he's lost.

You're

just a sucker for cute little dogs, aren't you?

I just feel so horrible for people who don't treat pets and dogs fairly.

They should be treated like human beings.

All right, National Administrative Professionals Day.

Wow, what a day that is.

National Cherry Cheesecake Day.

I hate cheesecake, so we could skip that one.

Cherries, I love them.

Okay, National Take a Chance Day.

That's kind of like today, and we're taking a chance without Gordy being here.

We're seeing if we can go ahead and do the show without him forever now.

Yeah, this is a dry run.

We'll see what happens.

We don't need him after all.

National Picnic Day.

And isn't it a little early for Picnic Day?

This is kind of dumb.

National Talk Like Shakespeare Day.

I haven't read enough Shakespeare to know how to talk like him.

Yeah.

Usually, you talk like Shakespeare after reading Shakespeare.

Yeah,

starting to speak in rhyme or

something.

Exactly.

It's some kind of cadence.

And I know when I was required to read it in high school, I did talk like Shakespeare.

Was that in an effort to...

like romance somebody to talk

in a

flowery, poetic

language.

I had this weird ability to be like Zeleg.

Do you ever see the movie Zeleg?

No, I haven't.

Woody Allen movie where he plays this guy Zeleg and whoever he is near, he takes on their profession.

their idiosyncrasies, their personality, their look.

So I mean, it was funny because it eventually got to the point where he was near Adolf Hitler.

And he started acting like Hitler.

Yes, exactly.

Oh, wow.

It's a fun movie.

It really is.

It's fantastic.

But I always refer to Zelling as that point where you take on some of the characteristics of the people that you admire most or that you watch most.

And that is one of them.

You know, Shakespeare.

The other we were required to read in school was Edgar Allen Poe.

And then, yes, I would talk like Edgar Allen.

Started acting like an angsty,

dark teenager.

Yeah, I was a dark teenager.

I didn't have goth back then, but yeah.

Right.

But yeah, I just, I still love it.

You know, I used to buy the paperbacks, and then I'd cut cardboard out, and I'd glue it to the covers, inside some of the covers.

So it felt like a hard cover.

Yeah.

I'd have my own library of hardcover books.

Yeah, it was pretty bad, you know.

But that's what we did in Milwaukee way back when.

Okay, so should we get to National Take a Chance Day?

It says just do it.

What are we taking a chance on?

Yeah, most of us have unaccomplished goals or dreams.

What if this was the day to take the chance to make them happen?

Even if it's just a first step toward that goal, it will be one step closer than before.

What if Gordy's taking the day off so he can take a chance at interviewing at another radio station?

Yeah, that's that's what he's doing It's like it's like we wouldn't notice so come on Gordy National picnic day.

All right, this is There are a variety of ways to take part in a picnic.

This is really

This meal harkens back to mid-18th century.

El Fresco French dining went all out.

All you needed was a bottle of wine, some bread, cheese, fruit, and you have a party.

Boy, that does sound like a party.

That's a picnic.

Yeah.

So there you go, national picnic.

I love picnics, but I like to keep them simple.

All right, that's the National Day calendar.

John Peterson in.

Gordy is out ill today, but we'll push on.

We've got idiocracy coming up just a little bit later on, so stick around right

here.

WMDX 92.7, John and Gordy in the morning.

Gordy's up today?

What do you think?

You just want to listen to the song, don't you?

Yeah.

What were you saying?

It's

great.

It's a great song.

It really is.

One of the great songs from Roy Orbison, although there were a lot of really bad songs by Roy Orbison.

Well, I quick looked it and saw that he's on our on our history list today and that was the first song that came to mind.

Oh,

yeah.

Yeah, that's that.

That's one of his best.

We have a few texts here.

Matt Middleton says, enjoying watching Musk fall apart.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Yeah, a lot of things are happening with that guy.

They're trying to get him out.

retire him early.

We all would love to see that happen, yes.

And I guess one of the big CEOs at Tesla is saying, we want you out.

So, you know, once once Elon starts losing the businesses that he has invested in, he's not going to be happy.

So obviously, you want to get out of the government business and we want to see him go very quickly.

Matt writes funny how people

who line up with Trump, the fraud, tend to lose badly, like America probably will as well.

And Doug in St.

Francis says the fact that Gordy is sick and not on the air is proof that you have not been replaced by AI.

That was in our promo, you know.

We were gonna prove that we were not AI professionals

here.

I guess we all, everyone listening to us knows now that we are in fact real.

Yeah.

Do we want to, you know, go over the last hour of yesterday's show?

Because it was, I mean, you know, that's when Gordy was here.

So, can we just take a look at what happened?

We're creating artificial listeners with the use of AI now.

And they're so kind as to write us a summary of what they heard whenever they listened to the show.

Are you gonna read it,

John?

You truly, truly hate AI.

What do you

think?

I hate AI for certain uses, for creative uses.

To an extent, including writing, I don't love it.

I don't love it for this, even though it makes my life, my job easier, because I don't have to write the descriptions then.

That's right, yeah.

Yours look pretty much like this.

Well, here's what I find fascinating with the AI interpretation of our show is that it it seems like it's a fan It's

like it's a super

fan Super fan.

Yeah And it's kind of fun to see what kind of take it has on what we're talking about So that's we know that

When you do these summaries, you know, it's exactly what happened on the program.

And that's, you're here experiencing it, so we don't expect any surprises.

Well, half the time I forget things.

Yes, you do.

They're very short summaries.

But here is, here is a summary of the last hour of yesterday's show.

Okay.

Do we have music at all or anything like that?

There we go.

John and Gordy tackle the chaotic world of current events, starting with the controversial deportation of two German teens from Hawaii for lack of hotel bookings, sparking tourism concerns.

The conversation shifts to the Supreme Court's mixed decisions, including a surprising defense of Obamacare and a troubling stance on gun rights for youths.

The show also covers Trump's bizarre gold obsession, as discussed on The Daily Show, and a comedic take on the authoritarian aesthetics.

We love comedic takes on authoritarianism.

Guest Jim Santel weighs in on legal challenges facing the Trump administration and the importance of due process.

A lively mix of legal insights, comedic banter, and a sprinkle of absurdity.

There you go.

It's there.

That's the AI summary.

There you go.

I'm sure

there's a collection of AI things.

If this is your first time ever listening to the John and Gordy show.

Now you know.

Now you know.

And you can go check out our two of yesterday's show.

All right.

Now I'm going to kind of update the list here.

What's the AI summary going to say about the AI summary next hour?

See that?

We're

feeding.

That's a great question.

Gordy always asks this.

Because the way that AI works, it learns.

And so what if it's learning from itself?

Can that happen?

I think so.

I think so.

We'll find out.

And that's from Catherine.

We'll find out how that sounds.

OK.

This I just thought was really outrageous.

And there was a story that I just ran across just before the show started.

And I just thought this was unusual.

Trump says that there's no time for trials.

People are worried he's going to start deporting American citizens, right?

But it's bad enough doing it to immigrants who are here legally.

But this.

this this comment no time for trials

well wouldn't be the first time in american history that habeas corpus has been suspended

yeah well you know it almost sounds like a you know the title of a tv show sitcom no time for trials yeah week after week we follow new people being shipped out of the country they're sad stories it's like love boat you know uh oh yeah all right let's get to some birthdays

Oh yeah, it's time for a look in the history book.

Oh boy.

Let's let's dial up the digital version today.

I don't want to

Yeah,

the book is too dusty.

Gordy's out sick.

I might be getting sick.

I don't want to have to deal with the dust Yeah, I like the digital version anyway.

All right.

All right 1635 the Boston Grammar School opened up It was the very first public school in the would be United States Wow.

Yeah, it's set up the very first taxpayer funded

like public school model.

Public schools had sort of existed before that in a couple places, but this one set the model for funding it based off of property taxes, which pretty much every school across the country uses now.

Yeah, I remember that way back when, they were still referring to schools as grammar schools.

Really?

Yeah.

What a strange word.

Grammar.

Okay.

I thought this was funny.

Today in 1937, Richard Nixon was rejected from an FBI job that he had applied to.

And J. Edgar Hoover, he later said that, quote, the FBI's laws ultimately became the country's gain.

What?

That's wrong on every point.

Right, exactly.

Today in 1985, New Coke was introduced.

Did you ever have New Coke back in the day?

No.

No, you didn't?

I never tried New Coke.

I kind of wish it was still around just to try it, because I've heard about it plenty of times.

But it stopped production on their original recipe later that week.

And there was such outcry.

that, uh, they had to reintroduce it about three months later.

I can't remember what they did that made it new.

Did they make it sound or taste more like Pepsi?

Is that?

I think they sweetened it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't, I don't know for sure.

Not sure.

Well, you never know.

They might just come out with it as a retro idea.

I, I would try it then.

First video uploaded to YouTube.

Wow.

Yeah.

2005.

Love that.

We'll be back in just a little bit with some more idiocracy.

Yeah

As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

This is grade A weapons grade stupidity.

Just doing my civic duties, sir.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fall at each other right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

All the time.

And I always say that.

But it's... it's dumbness.

Back to back, wall to wall.

Constantly.

It is... every day is opposite day in this world that we know as Trump World.

All right, so but we we left off one birthday and a little tip of the hat Goes to a guy that everybody loves who was watched TV over the many years Lee majors.

Let's listen to the song he sang this is him singing the fall guy

Good spot.

See, this is why it's great to work with two guys in their 70s, because I've never heard of Lee Majors before.

But now I

do.

Yeah, now you do.

It's good stuff too.

Watch the Fall Guy

movie.

There

you go.

It appears at the end of the movie, Fall Guy.

And it's really a great surprise.

He plays a police officer, taking the actual Fall Guy in.

It's good stuff.

And Lee Majors has made these cameos all over the damn place.

He's always a grandfather or a father.

And it's just very surprising.

There was one time where he

He appeared in Ash versus the Evil Dead.

I don't know if you ever watched that.

It was a series on one of the streaming channels.

And Bruce Campbell was the star, of course, but Bruce Campbell had a dad and it was Lee Majors, right?

And Lee Majors was like very momentarily in the series.

He steps out of a building and he gets run over by a car.

And they show this, you know, and he gets run over by the car and the back wheel crushes his head.

So it was stunning stuff.

Didn't expect that.

But anyway, you know, Lee is a great guy.

He makes fun of himself constantly.

And he did go out with Farrah Flossett.

As I mentioned to you, he was a Farrah Flossett appendage for a while.

More people knew about the whole celebrity

that I've heard of, but never really seen.

Yeah.

Well, people used to see your hair everywhere.

It was a big style back then.

All right, let's get to idiocracy here.

But before you do that, wait, Lee Majors was born in 1939.

So how old does that make him?

That makes him 85 or six.

Yeah, 86, I

think, right?

Yeah, 86.

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All right.

Time

for idiocracy.

Well, you know, it's one of the things that remains constant is getting the adjustable bed frame.

Okay.

All

right.

Why do

you

want to like live in a hospital bed?

Are you just training yourself for when your kids put you in a home?

I think you are a perfect example of what I'm trying not to do here is, is make it seem like that's just for hospital beds.

It is not.

It's for homes and it makes sleeping

a whole lot

easier and you don't have to have all these damn pillows in your bed just so you prop your head up and your shoulders up and it's just, it's so inconvenient.

All you have to do is just, you know, hit a button.

Why get a moveable mattress like that when you can just sleep in a recliner?

A lazy boy.

Well, you don't want to sleep in a recliner every night, do you?

I know I used to kind of fall asleep that way and then go to bed, but ever since I got this job, I can't do that anymore.

Because you'll stay there the whole night.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

Let's get to the first big story here.

This is Trump's big idea.

is to re-energize manufacturing in the US.

And this was a huge idea, by the way.

Scott Walker wanted to do this in Wisconsin.

He wanted to bring back basically a renaissance of manufacturing in Wisconsin.

Never, never happened.

And that's because of NAFTA.

Everybody moved out of the country to get cheap labor.

And that's why...

That's why I hate corporations most is they don't have any allegiance to the localities that they're in and the people that work at their factories and their businesses.

They just don't care.

They just up and left and abandoned people and we're supposedly supposed to admire corporations.

I don't think so.

Anyway, this is a great explainer on how economically impractical it is to shift.

the U.S.

economy to large-scale manufacturing.

And this is from Nathan Jung.

He's a philosophy professor.

Let's check out what he has to say about it.

Cut 56.

By now, we all understand that the tariffs are meant to bring back domestic manufacturing to the United States.

In the long run, this is a good thing, but it definitely negatively impacts the lower and middle class.

First off, manufacturing in the United States is very expensive, and we also don't have any manufacturing facilities in the United States to cover all of the companies that currently use overseas manufacturing to produce in the United States.

Let's take a look at Tesla, who built a Gigafactory in Texas.

It took them two years to be able to build that.

In addition to it taking Tesla two years, they also received over $1.1 billion in tax incentives from Texas and

local municipalities.

Today, over 3,000 US companies use international manufacturing and import their goods.

We don't have the land.

We don't have the facilities.

We don't have the materials.

We don't have the machinery.

And we definitely do not have the labor or do we.

And this segues into the dismantling of the Department of Education.

It has been a political agenda of Republicans to prevent white students from going to college for almost 30 years now.

Why?

Well, white voters tend to vote for Democrats at almost a 22 point margin.

So they try very, very hard to prevent white Americans from going to college.

With the removal of federal funding that goes to public schools to be able to cover the percentage they need to be able to keep their schools open, this will directly impact poorer states who receive a higher percentage of the federal funding.

So what does that have to do with domestic manufacturing?

Well, currently it's estimated that undocumented immigrants currently make up anywhere between 39 to 61 percent of all blue collar workers working in manufacturing, agricultural and construction.

We also have enough data from Brexit to know that if you prevent undocumented immigrants from being able to work blue collar jobs, you will not be able to replace them.

I think you get where I'm going with this by now.

The solution is going to be teenage and young adult labor.

Let's take a look at Louisiana that just received a $21 billion commitment to invest in the building of an electric steel manufacturing facility.

First off, they received this investment from Hyundai.

Now, Louisiana also ranks 40th in our country in education.

They're one of the worst.

So why would a company like Hyundai choose Louisiana to build their factories?

We all know the answer.

First off, Louisiana permits 16-year-olds to drop out of high school and work full-time hours.

Second, Louisiana abides by the national minimum wage rate, which is $7.25 per

hour.

Third, and here is the clincher, Louisiana does not require that employers pay full-time workers who are minors health care benefits or other benefits.

Education suppression equals child labor.

But let's circle back to the dismantling of health care, social security, and Medicaid.

which makes up the third part of Trump's three deathly halos.

To build manufacturing facilities to cover 99 out of the top 100 industrial companies in our country, it's going to require either insane amount of local rebates, but it's also going to require federal government support.

For example, Tesla received federal grants from our tax dollars to be able to build their first factories.

There's no way around it that the federal government would have to provide grants or insane rebates in order to build more manufacturing in the U.S.

But where is this money going to come from?

That's where these cuts come in.

Currently, Social Security Medicaid healthcare comprises about 50% of our entire federal budget.

If the US wants to pay for domestic manufacturing and be able to provide incentives to do it, they're going to have to cut somewhere, and this is where they're going to cut.

So what does that mean for people who currently survive on Medicaid, Social Security, and need healthcare?

You can do that deductive reasoning in your head.

You might think that I am sensationalizing things and creating conspiracies,

I personally believe that I am somebody who believes in deductive reasoning and critical thinking.

And all I can see is the actions that are happening and try to come to conclusions about what this all means.

It does to me feel like in order to make America great again, Trump simply has to reduce the number of Americans that he has to make it great for.

All right, there you go.

Great summation.

Great observation from Nathan Young as a philosophy professor.

Where's it?

Do you know where he's?

I can't remember.

I think it was Columbia, but I'm not quite sure.

We have a text here, and it's from Doug again, and he mentions that John and Sam already, may already be AI.

Yeah, he says, wait, wait, wait, the fact that Gordy is, well, he said before that.

that Gordy is gone is proof that we're

not

AI.

And he says, wait,

wait, wait.

The fact that Gordy is sick and not on the air is proof that at least Gordy has not been replaced by AI.

So we could both be fake, but Gordy could be real, and that's the reason that he's not here.

He refused to have his voice cloned or something.

Well, I guess people are just going to have to judge for themselves.

Right?

You you decide,

you know, I'm waiting for Gordy to come in with his his Beatles book that it's not even a Beatles book that he Oh,

he was gonna tell us about today.

He

can explain it better when he's back But yeah, he bought this book that was he bought it on Amazon.

It was supposed to be about

John and Paul of the Beatles.

He's a big Beatles fan,

right?

Yeah, and he found like the cheapest copy he could on Amazon It had the right cover, but inside the book was a completely different

a novel

Yeah, it was like a novel

in

there and part of me just is thinking that like the AI had to be in use in some way in this like Your wife has run into AI written novels on Amazon before somebody could just do that slap a different cover of the book on there and

make some cash on Amazon.

I know.

It's funny.

Yeah.

A lot of people are trying to do their novels through AI and sometimes it's very apparent and it's kind of ridiculous.

Yeah.

It's not even their novel then.

Yeah.

Well, they don't care because they're making money.

They're, you know, suckering some people into buying it.

Although, you know, you really have to advertise books heavily in order to get some kind of sales figure of some sort.

Yeah.

So it's not that easy.

But yeah.

AI is troublesome.

It's very troublesome.

And now we're finding out it's even more troublesome now that Elon has planted AI in every server, every, every part of the government in order to surveil the employees and find out who's loyal and who isn't.

It's just that, you know, and again, I've mentioned yesterday, and I realized it yesterday, by the way, that because I worked for the Commerce Department and Howard Ludnick, they're probably trying to find out, hey, what's this guy doing?

Why is he working for us at the Census?

So, you know, Mike bounced me out every once in a while.

I don't know.

Maybe.

Maybe soon.

They're keeping an eye on

you.

All right.

Well,

we got a call.

Oh, we do.

All right.

Let's go to Joe.

Joe, thanks for giving us a call this morning on John and Gordy in the morning without Gordy.

Well, I hope Gordy is better soon.

And if we need to airlift some chicken noodle soup to the guy, then let's get the chopper going.

Oh,

yeah,

definitely.

Headed up there, poor guy.

And I hope he doesn't infect all of you.

Hope he can empty morning if that's the case.

And anyway, I was calling in reference to Mr. Trump and of course the policies on manufacturing and I just wanted to mention this had been around for a while and I always thought it was just kind of brain dead.

Here are two competing pieces of information, which is that.

Up until recently, the GOP and Trump have been all about offshoring manufacturing to other countries.

And in fact, there was a law that was initiated in 2017 that gave clear incentives for American based corporations to move overseas.

tax break to move your operations and jobs overseas.

They had a 0% tax rate on many profits generated offshore.

So now they're saying, whoa, we got to bring it back.

And I would point out that this isn't as of February 5th, 2025, the Dems have introduced the bill to eliminate Trump's outsourcing of tax breaks that are up for renewal.

It seems before you would.

You know bust up the economy with all these tariffs that the very first thing that you would do is say we aren't going to give you a break because you move your business overseas I mean I'm stunned at this sort of has to be explained, but this is you know Republican Chicanery at its finest but encourage people to just give a call to what's described as the bill is described as

Getting rid of outsourcing tax breaks.

Okay.

That's all we're saying is I don't you know, you don't get a tax break for taking the business overseas Wouldn't it seem to be like a nice first step rather than blowing up the economy?

So anyway, my two cents you can check it out the person it was Sheldon White House was the sponsor of the bill.

Okay.

Thanks.

Yeah, thanks a lot for that reminder as well That's true during the first Trump administration that happened and now it's head snappily the opposite

Well, we'll be back in just a few moments with Johnny Gordy in the morning.

WMDX 92.7, John and Gordy in the morning.

Gordy's out today.

And Sam, the producer is filling in.

We're talking about idiocracy right now.

And before we get to what is happening in trade, we kind of got a little taste of it with Joe.

But I want to mention that we have new schedules going on here at the station.

at Civic

Media.

Wow, a little bit.

I don't know if anybody would notice.

Well, if you listen to any other

Dave part.

Oh, oh, you're talking, you're talking the, okay, this is my producer brain talking.

You're talking the new lineup, the new show schedule.

Not the clock change, yes.

So John and Courtney will be here in Madison.

That's great.

We are not moving, we're not being replaced by anybody.

And

if they try to replace us, then we'll hack into the system and make sure that we go on the air instead.

Exactly.

And of course, you know, things will shift a little bit and we've added somebody.

So let's go over that schedule.

John and Gordy in the morning, Stephanie Miller, right?

That's right.

And then we'll have Tom Hartman.

Yes, from 11 to 2.

Yes.

And then it is Todd Albaugh.

at two to four, and then it's Megidon in the afternoon, four to six, and of course Petroba, who will be here in the studio tonight.

He's

in Madison.

Yeah, I'm gonna be producing him.

He'll be down here.

Oh, really?

Okay.

Yeah.

So that's the lineup.

Maybe.

People got confused that maybe this morning show wasn't going to be here, but we twisted a few arms and

they're

giving us a couple of weeks.

We tied up.

We tied up the execs there in the back closet right now.

That's right.

OK, let's get back to the economy and tariffs and what all of this is going to do for trade deficits.

Jeffrey Sachs.

influential economists and a guy from Columbia University.

He's a professor, okay, mentioned that.

Anyway, he didn't hold back when he talked about Trump's trade policies.

He said, Mickey Mouse is smarter than him.

Let's listen to Jeffrey Sachs on trade here.

If you take your credit card and you go shopping and you run up a large credit card debt, you're running a trade deficit.

With all those shops Now it would be pretty strange if you then blamed all the shop owners for having sold you all those things You're ripping me off.

You're ripping me off.

You're ripping me off.

I'm running a trade deficit That is the level of understanding of the president of the United States The trade deficit does not represent at all

Trade policies it represents spending relative to production or earnings We call that an identity I teach it in the second day of my course in international monetary economics Trump never made it to the second day So he says

You're running a trade deficit.

Look, they're all cheating me.

But all that's happening is the United States is outspending its national income.

We have a big credit card in the United States.

It's called the national government.

And we love that credit card.

Use it often.

It's great

stuff.

Like dumb do you need to be to not understand income minus expenses equals profit and you can have negative profit Which is the situation we're in right now.

I learned that in I'm sure I learned it before that but I first took an economics class in 9th or 10th grade It's pretty simple stuff Donald Trump.

Well, you know the author of Trump's book said that

This guy really isn't a CEO.

He isn't really a good businessman.

If he was, he would have been fired

by the board.

You got to have money to make money, and you got to have money to lose money.

Exactly.

He's done the latter.

Most of the time.

And it's amazing.

He'll add the US to his bankruptcies.

Yikes.

All right, let's go to the phone lines.

We've got Dick waiting for us.

Dick, what do you got for us today?

Well, you know the press secretary for him.

You know, she's walking back all the time.

I think there's one easy thing she should just say every time she comes out.

The president didn't mean what he really said.

And if he did, uh, he didn't say it.

Yeah, I think she would, she would say something like that.

Uh, she's

something else, isn't she?

It's gotten to be ridiculous and that he didn't, he didn't mean this.

And then now all of a sudden he's walking back everything with, uh, the Chinese.

Yeah.

Yeah, you see now he might just get rid of those tariffs that he's put on them.

So

Well,

we'll see what happens with that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's what he said.

Yeah We'll see.

All right.

Thanks, Nick.

I appreciate it.

I want to get to another I don't know who said this but it's it's a good statement.

Let's go to cut to 14

So I asked Ben what's going on here this investigative journalist Naomi Klein Calls it disaster capitalism and it's a disaster.

All right

Ben Chuckled.

It's the oldest racket in town.

It takes me back to the glory days of the old robber barons.

They wrote the playbook, Real Visionaries.

Old Baron Von Rothschild, the banker, he used to tell me, when the streets run red with blood, I buy.

Or take Collis Huntington, the railroad baron.

You know his motto?

Anything that's not nailed down is mine, and anything I can pry loose is not nailed down.

There's your basic corporate mission statement.

Yes.

All right.

Good stuff.

Again, I don't know who said it, but I just love the comment itself.

So I think it stands on its own.

Next hour, we're going to be talking about RFK Jr., some of the crazy things he has put into motion.

We'll get to that right here on John and Courtney in the morning.

We also got our Wednesday appearance with Mike McCabe.

That's right.

Mike McCabe is coming up as well.

So we'll find out what he has to talk about.

All right.

Take care.

Is the John and Courtney show.

John and Courtney in the morning.

As we were saying.

Let the sun shine.

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These are the times that try men's souls.

In the course of our nation's history, the people have rallied bravely whenever the rights of men have been threatened.

Today, a new crisis has arisen.

Citizens, hear me out.

This could happen to you.

People think I'm controversial.

But the truth is, I'm a nice guy.

And we're going to have a lot of fun tonight.

I'm upset.

Outraged and angered.

Everything you said was all a lie.

What I say is what I say.

Okay, I want a damn concerted effort.

This is a god-last damn time.

I want somebody who uses f***ing brain.

This is a job for... John Peterson.

And... Party!

You're from the 60s.

I will tell you this is going to be something special.

Heh.

Just a show about nothing.

I don't have any answers for you.

I don't give interviews.

I just want to be left alone.

Hell, I like you.

You can come over to my house and f*** my sister.

What is this f***?

Ponderous man.

Ponderous.

Ponderous.

Yes.

Ponderous.

Well, I've heard that before.

We've got about 51 degrees, I believe, high around 71 today.

John and Gordy in the morning.

Gordy's out today and producer Sam filling in and we are having discussions here about what's going on with the economy.

And now we're going to talk about RFK Junior.

But before we even get.

To RFK Junior, we were talking off the air here about Pete Hakeseth and his meltdown at the Easter egg roll.

You know, I'm- What did he even say?

You didn't tell me.

Oh, but we're gonna play it right now.

All right, this is cut 228.

And it was such a hot mess that, you know, I'm sitting.

I try to ignore the stuff he's normally talking about, but I just happen to be listening to it.

And it was so ridiculous.

It was so over the top and so unbelievable.

And by the way, it was described this way in one of the media sources.

Pete Hegg says, children cringe as father melts down in front of media.

And it was funny watching the kids' faces.

I mean, they've heard dad talk like this before, you know.

And the fact that he was an anchor on the weekends where you just have to keep talking and talking and talking just to make, you know... Like we do,

just to

fill time.

Just to fill time.

Right.

So he's doing it on this...

particular occasion talking about, you know, the leaks and signal, and he's just melting down.

It's just a word salad that is just priceless to listen to.

And remember now, his kids are making faces behind him as he's saying this.

Listen to

this.

Full of

hoaxers.

You know, what a big surprise that a bunch of a few leakers get fired and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from the same media that pedaled the Russia hoax.

They

got poachers for a bunch of lies.

No,

it's true.

Poachers for a bunch of lies and unhoaxes time and time and time again.

And as they peddle those lies, no one ever calls them on.

See, this is what the media does.

They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees, and then they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputation.

I'm not going to work with me because we're changing the Defense Department, putting the Pentagon back in the hands of war fighters, and anonymous smears from disgruntled former employees on old news doesn't matter.

So I'm happy to be here at the Easter Egg Roll.

Oh, you

are.

My dad, and my kids.

Because, you know, this is what we're doing it for.

These kids right here.

This is why we're fighting the fake news media.

This is why we're fighting slash and burn Democrats.

This is why we're fighting Hoeksters.

Hoeksters.

This group, no, no, this group right here.

Full of Hoeksters.

The

pedal anonymous sources from leakers with access to grind.

And then you put it all together as if it's some news story.

And when we know it, you know exactly what it is.

So I'm really proud of what we're doing for the president.

fighting hard across the board and I'm going to go roll some Easter eggs with my kids.

Have spoken to the president and we are going to continue fighting on the same page all the way.

Yes indeed.

Nothing like scrambling trying to at least say whatever he is trying to say in front of his kids who were really embarrassed and didn't want to hear anymore but I'm sure they hear it at home all the time.

So I didn't watch

this on TV.

How old are his kids?

if you had to guess.

I think about 14.

Oh, okay.

So they know what's going on.

Yeah.

They're very aware of it.

And it was embarrassing.

I feel sorry for him at this point.

I do.

It says here, somebody texted in, I've seen that look that the Hankseth kids had.

That's the look of kids who have an alcoholic abusive parent who's about to go off.

Wow.

Yes.

Yes, that's a great observation.

And they were paralyzed by fear of what comes next.

Yeah, good thing they were in a public place, I guess.

Absolutely.

And thank you for that text.

Put it in perspective.

You want to go to the phone?

Oh yes, let's go to the phone.

Mark, what do you got for us?

Yeah, I see that.

I saw an article this morning that I haven't read the whole thing up, but apparently they want to treat our deportations like Amazon.

that I guess we're opening, there's a whole bunch of private prisons opening up that central holding facilities for deportees and to quickly round them up and hold them in some kind of warehouse so we can ship them out without any trial.

According to Trump, we don't need no trials.

It's just so ironic for a man who has availed himself that

in spite of his claim, oh, it's being weaponized against me, has had the full use of the court system to defend himself, and repeated appeals to his convictions and reversals in court, and he doesn't appreciate the fact that the Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold, in spite of the fact he didn't touch the Bible, the oath is still binding to him to adhere to the Constitution, which guarantees

You know, people with the right to their day in court.

I mean, if it's citizen or not, I mean that the most wretched criminal, the most horrific criminal, is entitled to their day in court.

And these people have done nothing more than did what Donald Trump's grandfather did, escaping Germany, going back and making his money in the United States as a hormonger, and going back to Germany that didn't want to serve in the military.

They're coming back to the United States.

It is just sad that the man just and the Republican Party in Mass is not condemning him actually saying

that.

They're 100% behind him and again the quote I think of the quote of the week is there's no time for trials.

Just about says it all doesn't it?

No time.

Wasn't there an old movie, No Time for Sargeants?

Yes, there was.

Now there's no time for trials.

Alright, thanks a lot.

Thanks

guys.

I appreciate it.

It's crazy stuff.

Alright, let's move on to RFK Jr.

He's got some crazy stuff going and it's gonna have a big impact on him.

When

doesn't he have some crazy

stuff going?

Oh, I know, but this is, you know, it's just...

The floodgates are open at this point.

I didn't

actually look at what store you have on here.

So right now, the headline that you've got just made my eyes go wide and I'm like, wait, what?

No, it's true.

So tell us what it is.

Well, he's suspending milk quality testing.

That's right.

They don't have time for this.

They don't have the expertise to do it anymore because they've done a lot of paring down of employees at the FDA.

So let's listen to a comment here.

This is a web wisdom talking about the story that RFK Jr.

is putting in place.

They're going to suspend the testing of milk.

Let's listen.

FDA is suspending its milk quality testing right now.

There was an email that was sent out yesterday from the FDA's division on dairy safety saying that due to budget cuts and staff cuts, they are no longer able to provide routine testing for grade A milk and other dairy products.

It is unclear if and when this milk quality testing by the FDA will be resumed.

And this is not the first time they've done significant cuts to the safety of our food supply.

On April 18th, they cut the food

emergency response network which was involved in quality testing for various food products.

Now you may be wondering with this news what to do to help keep you and your family safe.

And here's a couple of ideas to consider.

One is that if you drink cow's milk instead of getting pasteurized milk, look for ultra pasteurized milk where the milk is cooked at higher temperatures, which is more likely to kill off more microbes and have a longer shelf life.

And

lastly, you should speak up if this is something that concerns you.

Talk with your local representatives about how food safety is really important and that these cuts can be potentially harmful.

So it's

important to reach out to them to make sure that not only you're safe, but your community is as safe as possible.

All right, that's it.

Good summation.

And it's crazy to even think that this is going on currently.

It's due to reduced capacity in its food safety and nutrition division.

of the FDA and the suspension is another disruption to the nation's food safety program.

It says here after the termination and departure of about 20,000 employees.

This is crazy stuff and it's going to affect everybody in this country and it's not good news here in Wisconsin.

I don't know what they're going to do but I'm sure that they'll probably keep on with their current

food safety practices.

Yeah, next time we talk to Pam Yackey, we got to pick a brain about it.

Yes.

Yes, we'll definitely do that.

Then of course, RFK Junior is setting in motion a disease registry tracking autistic people.