In Defense of Academic Freedom

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In Defense of Academic Freedom

John & Gordy · Mon Apr 21, 2025

is the subject of an investigative report into his harem of baby mamas.

The Wall Street Journal of all places published a bonkers account of Musk's efforts to seed the world in his own image.

His story said he's been using his social media platform to recruit women to carry his children, and then he buys their silence with multi-million dollar non-disclosure agreements.

Who said romance is dead?

You know?

It is believed that Elon has fathered at least 14 children, and based on this photograph, he may have given birth to them, too.

He's probably carrying a few around in his pouch like a kangaroo.

Sources told the Journal they believe there could be more mini musks out there, many more mini musks.

You've heard of Alien Vs. Predator?

Elon might be both of them.

He has stated in the past that he believes declining birth rates are the greatest threat to humanity, which I'm not sure what planet Elon lives on.

This one seems full to me.

You ever go to Costco on a Saturday?

Musk reportedly told one woman when she was pregnant with his child that he needed to start making babies with other women, too.

He sent her a text that said,

To reach legion level before the apocalypse, we will need to use surrogates.

He even texts like a supervillain.

He's sex-luther.

He's... But it is kind of sweet, I guess.

Elon loves babies.

I mean, he spent $300 million to get one elected president.

He loves them so much.

Thank you.

Seven minutes past the hour, it's John and Gordy in the morning.

John Peterson, Gordy Young, producer Sam, pushing the buttons, flipping the switches.

And it's cloudy, a little light rain at times today, off and on.

Temperatures will be falling from highs in the mid 50s this morning into the 40s this afternoon.

John, good morning.

Good morning to you.

Happy Easter day after.

That's right,

yes.

I saw a clip on X of Trump standing next to a giant bunny.

Did you see this thing?

I

think

it was last year, wasn't it?

Well, I think it was from the

previous term.

Okay, the previous term.

Yeah,

but I

think today is the day they have the egg roll on the kiddies day at the White House.

I know in that speech, he was there with Melania.

And this gigantic Easter Bunny guy standing next to him.

And he was talking about a fundraiser that they had in order to maintain the White House, you know, fix it up and make it look beautiful again.

And he mentioned the White House initially, but then later on he says this place.

This building.

You couldn't think of the names.

It was so ridiculous.

All right, well, while we're on the subject of Trump, you know, he had a very special Easter message for everybody.

Every holiday, he has the same very similar Easter message to everyone out there.

Very heartwarming.

And he likes to include almost everyone in his messages.

So why don't we listen to a little Easter Beagle Charlie Brown

here?

Okay,

sure.

Happy Easter to all, including the radical left lunatics, who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring murderers, drug lords, dangerous prisoners, the mentally insane and well-known MS-13 gang members and wife beaters back to our country.

Happy Easter also to the weak and ineffective judges and law enforcement officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our nation to continue.

An attack so violent that it will never be forgotten.

Sleeby Joe Biden purposely allowed millions of criminals to enter our country totally unvetted and unchecked through an open borders policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America.

He was by far our worst and most incompetent president.

He's a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing

I Think he's projecting

I think so But to him and he continues here in his message But to him and to the person that ran and manipulated the auto pen perhaps a real president

And to all the people who cheated in the 2020 presidential election order to get this highly destructive moron elected I wish you with great love sincerity and affection a very Happy Easter.

That's from Donald J. Trump.

You're your president.

I

was in

tears after I read this.

I

thought God that's so heartwarming.

It's probably the warmest message I've ever seen from you so far

There's nothing wrong with him, is there?

He's just sad and weird.

Wow.

Yeah.

He's falling apart right before

our

eyes.

Oh my God.

I think.

All right.

Okay.

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You know, we're trying to get a Bragg or Garcia back, of course, you know, and it's a big deal.

And a conservative judge, this is a conservative judge.

Yes.

He warned the administration that there is such a thing called due process.

And I just want to play this report.

in regards to what that judge's message was, and this is 209, all right?

Let's listen to this particular judge.

What that court is saying is that it appears the administration is doing nothing to facilitate a Brego Garcia's return and the way that they are behaving in this case appears to signal a crumbling of American democracy.

Judge J. Harvey Wilkinson, one of the longest serving appellate judges in the United States, a renowned conservative judge.

He wrote seven pages yesterday about this.

imploring the executive branch to listen to the courts to uphold the rule of law and to follow the Constitution in a way that preserves American democracy before it is too late.

He writes, while there is still time, this is more of what the judge wrote in his order.

If today the executive claims the right to deport without due process and in disregard of court orders, what assurance will there be

tomorrow that it will not deport American citizens and then disclaim responsibility to bring them home and What assurance shall there be

that

the executive will not train its broad discretionary powers upon its political enemies?

This is the starkest warning that we have ever seen really from a federal appellate court

Yeah, and as you know the Supreme Court gave him immunity.

Yes, and it was all based on the fact

I mean, this was presented in court, and we all laughed.

And the same presentation was given to the Supreme Court, and they didn't laugh.

And they said, oh, well, yeah, if you're going to kill your enemies, your opponents, that's OK.

You have immunity if it's an official act.

Wow.

So this judge is saying, well, no, it shouldn't be like that.

No, it shouldn't.

Because he can just claim anything as an official act.

He can.

And he probably will.

And again, he'll probably take it out on American citizens, all my mega friends out there, especially the one in Milwaukee.

They haven't noticed any of this.

They're still talking about all the side stuff that Fox throws out there and sticks to the wall of insanity.

But anyway, they're following that.

They're not actually following what's going on with the administration and how they're destroying the country and are willing.

and able probably very soon to deport American citizens to El Salvador.

Well, we

don't know what their, that's the scary part is it could still be happening every day.

It could be.

And people are still receiving letters saying, you know, you can leave the country, you've got 24 hours or whatever deadline they put on it.

Yes, it's ongoing.

And it's scary.

It is.

Now we were talking about Pete Hagseth earlier.

This story kind of hit the fan and the Daily Show took a look at it.

This is about the book ban

that

they put in place.

Why don't we listen to this particular story?

It's pretty unsettling to know that this is happening in a free country where we have something called the First Amendment.

Let's listen to this.

Pete Hegseth, Defense Secretary, and guy whose tattoos are somehow embarrassed by him, just scored another victory in his war

on thinking.

The Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs has been ordered to purge its library of books related to diversity, equity, and inclusion, along with some topics related to race and gender.

The Naval Academy Library tossed out nearly 400 books, including titles on feminism, civil rights history, and the Holocaust.

Speaking of, at the Naval Academy, Hitler's mind comp made the cut and is still available to read.

That's where you draw the line?

Like, yeah, I don't want one of those woke social justice books.

I'm looking for more of a beach read.

Do you have mine camps?

Anyway, this whole anti-DI thing is getting out of control.

They're pulling books about minorities, our schools, scrubbing stories about women and gay people from websites, and Disney can't even put out a new Snow White without people trying to deport her.

And that's just the beginning.

To take advantage of this shift in the culture war, the White House has just launched its own streaming

service.

12 years of what have you, Marvel's Panther, and really hidden figures.

They're behind the arm wall.

And Brokeback Mountain, the inspiring story of two Wyoming cowboys who hurt a cattle and nothing else.

And

hey, sports fans, we've got

all your favorite films from the gridiron and the court, like White Men Can Jump the Best.

Remember that one Titan and Cool Runnings, the inspiring true story of an Olympic bobsled with no one in it.

And of course, who can forget Disney's and Kanto?

You can, it doesn't exist anymore.

Get your favorite.

Trump approved movies from the Whiterion Collection today and act now because watching the originals will soon be considered domestic terrorism.

That's pretty wild stuff.

It says it all.

It's a takeoff on criterion collection of movies that were redone or reformatted, I believe, restored.

That's

the word I'm

looking for.

What do they call it, the Whiterion Collection?

Yeah, Whiterion Collection.

Why not, right?

And it's amazing, you know, we've gone from CRT, which was the vilified acronym to DEI, which suddenly, you know, was like CRT on steroids where it encompasses everything and anything the magas don't like.

So this DEI thing is just insane.

I mean, they they can blame everything with DEI, everything.

And they already have, they already have done that.

So

it's pretty insane, really.

All right.

Coming up in about 15 minutes, we'll be talking with former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin and get his take on whatever he wants to talk about.

And there's plenty to talk

about.

I'd like to talk to him about, you know, what he does in his free time and

how he's coming along with the book.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I think that's making progress.

It's 18 minutes past the hour.

And when we come back, we'll check in with the chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlot.

And Cosmo Med.

Oh, yeah, let's get to that story.

Okay.

John

and Gordy in the Morning, a broadcast institution since 1987.

Of course, they've been off the air since 1994.

That's what 30 years of institution is.

I'm not quite sure.

She broke her calculator.

I guess so.

I'm figuring that one out.

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Yeah, cloudy,

rainy,

and temperature is going to be dropping from highs in the low to mid fifties this morning into the forties this afternoon.

Joining us now, former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.

Good morning, Paul.

Morning, morning, morning.

Yeah,

it's kind of a strange day today, but it's going to be warm and we're finally getting the temperatures that I've been asking for for a long time.

Well, later in the week.

See, we know somebody in the weather and that's what's helped.

There you go.

Okay.

It's who you know.

Hey, we want to get your input on what's going on at all the universities across the country right now being threatened by the Trump administration to do and say what they want them to say.

And the UW hasn't said anything about what they're going to do yet, but we know that Harvard is leading the class on this thing.

They're going to challenge the Trump administration.

What are your thoughts on that?

Well, we simply put good for Harvard.

I jokingly posted the other day an observation I made back in 79 when I was a fellow at Harvard, which is Harvard is

what 350 years old, Harvard is older than the government of the United States.

And in some cases, more powerful.

And hopefully this is one of those instances where it's more powerful.

Clearly, academic freedom is at stake here more seriously than in our lifetimes.

The two other instances

where this has occurred, one during the Joe McCarthy reign, it's the 1940s, early 50s, and the second was as we get into the late 60s, nearly 70s, the anti-war years.

But universities are very messy places, and they're deliberately designed to be that way.

in the sense that you don't have rigid controls over who does what, who says what.

Universities, unlike private businesses, for example, private business, every department, every arm of a private business is aligned with the mission of the company.

In universities, every department

And within every department, there's a tremendous amount of autonomy, a tremendous amount of independence.

And there's a reason for that.

And that is to encourage the research, to encourage the study of the developments and understanding of who and what we are as humans, as a planet.

And it affects the sciences, the social sciences,

studies in language.

I was just reading an article the other day, for example, a coincidental with this last being Easter Sunday about Mary Magdalene and how over the centuries who she was has been interpreted and explained very differently.

And to make it very short and not take us too far off,

the subject here, changes in describing Mary in the second century and the sixth century probably imparts them from the fact that men were very disturbed by the influence that she had in the church.

But in any case, I think it's really critical to understand that not only

Do we have these immediate threats?

Which for example involve students here or visas?

But this is this Trump attack on the University of Wisconsin on Harvard is going to do everything from sport Development and genetic research in crop disease in dealing with climate change.

I mean

There isn't an aspect of our lives where this isn't going to have an impact.

That's right, almost like a delayed impact because something like this can affect what is developed in science, the advancement of what we can do to help other people and crops and diseases.

All of this is just put out, it's actually just, in Japan, they had like a lost decade.

Remember that big story?

It seems like we're setting ourselves up for a lost decade as well because of all these delays, all these cuts that they're making are just going to delay progress in this country for another 10 years.

Well, I think it's real interesting observation on your part because one of the advantages of this kind of attack is that

One of the advantages is that the negative impacts won't be seen for four, five, eight, 10 years.

And so consequently, in a way, Trump can get away with this until people see and feel the real consequences, whether it's, I mean, the most obvious right now is disease controls.

in terms of another epidemic, whether it be variant of COVID or some new disease we've never experienced that through mutation emerges, whether it's in the human population or the animal population.

But the long-term consequences of this are really great.

And it's already had long-term consequences by disrupting research work that was already underway.

And the point was made last night in one of the television news stories I was watching.

These researchers who are determined to make the world a better place, they're going to leave the United States.

And so you've got this contradiction where Trump is complaining about the loss of intellectual property to China and other nations.

Driving folks out of this country.

Yeah, and this research and work will be done elsewhere.

Hopefully if we can't roll back his attacks on an academic freedom

That's right.

We can be seeing a brain drain here over the next few years So so what can you know?

There are a lot of universities and colleges that are watching what Harvard said and is done and

Of course, they're fearful of losing funding and is there any way they can bond together and make a statement or is that just impossible because they're all so independent of each other?

Well, I think one of the things that'll happen is they are going to bond together in terms of illegal attacks.

And they're going to come back in many instances to probably use contract law that they had agreements with the government.

And the government simply can't unilaterally stop these agreements.

Which brings up another issue or aspect to this, which is, you know,

Can you trust the government to keep its word?

What right does Trump have to break agreements which were inked by previous administrations?

But I would think that the American Association of University Professors, there'll be consortiums that we associate with sports like the Big Ten, the Ivy League,

which are going to move in unison.

There's one other little aspect of this that we should mention.

The Trump administration has said that the letter that prompted all this, the letter from Trump's administration to Harvard was sent out in error.

Now this is real interesting.

This is a real example of blaming the victim.

So after these conversations take place between Harvard and the government about DEI, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, after all that takes place, what happens is the Trump administration drafts this letter, which was sent to Harvard.

Now they're saying it was drafted by a committee

which was not given final approval to send the letter.

And what's really interesting here is a woman who speaks for the Trump administration on its attack on DEI says Harvard overreacted that they didn't do the polite thing of first having received the letter calling to see whether or not it was real.

No.

Instead, they pulled out the guns and they just flatly stood up to the Trump administration.

And so now they're blaming the whole thing on Harvard.

Wow.

It's just like, you know, we put a gun in your face and you decided to resist.

And that's your fault.

Unbelievable.

The interesting is coming days to see whether or not the Trump administration backs off.

and says, oh, we really didn't

mean it.

But they've threatened all the other universities to stand up to

a bully.

Yes, absolutely.

But yeah, I thought they also, you know, expelled a whole bunch of the students and teachers here, you know, pulled their visas, in other words.

And I think that this is

the pressure they want to put on universities, this is what's happened.

And because Harvard resisted, now they're trying to back out of it just a little bit.

But still that DEI thing, they're using it to blame everything on DEI, everything.

You know, the Department of Defense banned a whole bunch of books at one of their military schools based on DEI, which is just crazy and insane.

So talking with a

former the first woman who went into space out of history.

Yes, that's right.

They did.

Yes.

Yes, unbelievable talking to a former Madison mayor Paul Soglin and We had another topic we wanted to bring up here

John tone Madison tone Madison has it out for you Paul.

They don't necessarily like you very much and they they've called you I

Amazingly, they have said that you're a conservative at this point because you have opposed everything that Madison is doing at this point under this particular mayor.

What is your response to tone Madison?

It seems a little odd and unusual at this point.

Well, what the author obviously did was cherry pick my position on a couple of issues where I do have some very strong disagreements, not the least of which had to do with

the massive increase in property taxes through the referendum last year.

There are things that are being done that I agree with.

At least in some instances, the majority of the council are fully supportive of what's being done with the public market.

I'm very pleased to see that something that I worked on and envisioned.

The Imagination Center on Madison's East Side has just been

Receive some very favorable bids for construction that's going well in what's considered to be a period of austerity for the city So there and and most of the housing for sure Some of the changes yeah, I think unnecessarily So we say burdensome, but you know 90% of that I certainly agree with

there you

go So you know they just

Selected what they wanted to for the article to try and classify me as a conservative.

I've been dealing with this kind of nonsense all my life.

I made a decision long ago.

I'm not going to let somebody else decide what is the progressive agenda.

I'm not going to be silenced.

Paul.

Paul, it's great to talk to you as always.

We appreciate your time and we'll talk to you again soon.

I can see why you're grouchy

sometimes, Paul.

Thank you very much.

You

too.

That's former Madison Mayor Paul Soglin.

Back in a moment with more of John and Gordy.

I'd like to begin by wishing you all a happy Easter, because this year, especially this year, Easter is on 420.

This Sunday, he is risen, and you is high.

So how did these two sacred holidays fall on the same day?

Well, the long answer is Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon that follows the vernal equinox.

You can remember it with this simple rhyme.

Full moon before equinox, don't move Jesus' rocks.

Equinox before moon, he will rise soon.

And also with you.

Eastern 420 seemed like a natural pairing, because whoever came up with their East traditions was definitely stoned.

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You know, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

And then there's gonna be a rabbit.

And he is huge, okay?

He wears a bow tie.

I don't know why.

He's got a bow tie.

And he lays eggs.

And they're not normal eggs.

They're not the normal eggs.

They're not the normal eggs you expect to come out of a rabbit.

They're like... All kinds of colors, and they're filled with chocolate.

Also, everything is candy, even the

ham.

Now

I

want chocolate.

Wow, that is crazy.

That's Stephen Colbert.

He talks a lot about religion.

He does.

He does.

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Okay, tomorrow on the show, by the way, Jim Santel will be joining

us.

Yes, we've got a lot

of legal stuff going

on.

We need to

clear

up.

All right, so I got a web wisdom here.

Oh,

okay.

It's 168.

I was going to say we need to start learning sign language or something so you can tell me what you're trying to tell me when Gordy's talking.

He's waving his

arms over here.

I'm trying to distract him.

I know.

See, the

hand

signal thing is a distraction to me.

I understand

that.

Well, we're looking for cut 168 and what's in cut 168?

Well, that's a web wisdom.

And this is a very interesting web wisdom.

Random wisdom from the web.

It's about Elon.

His fear of empathy.

Oh, all right.

Yeah, and I just think this is an interesting Look at that.

Let's check this out

We all do respect mr. Musk

fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy

I think you're completely wrong on this one as a species.

We weren't inherently superior We weren't the strongest.

We weren't the fastest.

We didn't handle cold very well.

We didn't even have the

biggest brains, and yet we became the dominant species.

When it comes to evolution, you know, survival of the fittest gyareara, scientists generally agree on this.

One of the key reasons we won was our ability to feel empathy, to cooperate.

This isn't just speculation, it's been studied over and over.

Even Google ran research on what makes the most successful teams, and two of the biggest factors were psychological, safety and trust.

And at Carnegie Mellon University, Professor Anita Williams Woolley and her team studied hundreds of groups and found a clear pattern.

The more empathy a group had, the higher their collective intelligence.

So really, Elon, empathy isn't something to worry about unless, of course, you're afraid of people being able to think critically and make informed decisions for themselves.

Wow.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I think she was, she played the lead role in a Disney movie.

I can't remember which one.

That voice.

101 Dalmatians, maybe?

It could be.

But she had a nice, nice message right there, you know?

And sadly, empathy has always been attacked by magas.

Yes.

Right?

I mean, we couldn't have empathy in screw holes.

No, no, no.

I

don't know

what the hell a deal is on that.

They don't have empathy, you know, they just don't have that gene.

It's not the American way.

Rugged individualism is the American way.

That's it, yes.

That's right.

Sure.

That's right.

Let's go

with that.

Okay, yeah, I like that.

Is there another signal I missed?

No, no, that's fine.

It's perfect, yeah.

All right, let's let's go to the economy very quickly here.

I think we have very little time left So I thought maybe legendary investor Charlie Munger had an opinion about what was going on with the Trump presidency and he trashed him Back in well, let's listen to this.

This is an amazing cut 149.

This is Charlie Munger investors extraordinaire and he you know so many people knew the convicted felon would make an awful president and

And this is just one comment.

I'm interested in your take when it comes to politics and the economy on Donald Trump.

Trump has been all over the media saying he's a hugely successful businessman and would know how to run this country better than it's being run now.

He told me that many of the leaders we have right now in government aren't very smart.

Would Donald Trump make a strong president?

Well, he might be quite decisive.

But do I consider

Donald Trump, an ideal decision maker or manager of anything.

And the answer is no.

And the last person almost I'd want to be president of the United States is Donald Trump.

Really?

Yes.

Why?

Well, I think he has qualities that make him insurable for the office.

Those qualities?

Vainglory, puffery, to a large extent.

I could go on and on.

Feel free.

No.

No.

No.

There's a lot of.

He could go on and on, but he said that back in 2011 about Donald Trump.

Yes, he was

right.

We could go on and on, but the clock on the wall, you know, it's ticking away.

Stephanie Miller is next.

Jim Santel joins us tomorrow.

We hope you have a great day.

John, we'll talk again

in

22 hours.

I'll try to have a great day.

Those damn rabbits

on my yard,

though.

All right.

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