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It looks like it's gonna be a pretty nice day today at least I'm hoping so here on WM DX We have the WM DX weather window overlooking State Street capital city And the WM DX official Samsung watch of the show.
Yeah, we'll be checking in with that in a few moments.
Good morning and And I have plans today to spread grass seed all over my lawn
to see how that works.
It's going to be a $56 investment.
I know I'm just spreading $56 all over my lawn that'll blow.
right.
Why don't you just rent a sod cutter and then take your neighbor's lawn?
You could have one nice green patch and then the rest just kind of browned around it.
It's not History Museum Day.
All right.
Yeah.
Get a shiny new dime.
Yes.
Add it to your account.
Okay.
Let's get to know your customer's day.
Hey, hey.
Okay, this is for retailers, I imagine.
Reminds businesses to reach out to patrons and get to know them better.
You know, the day is observed annually on the third Thursday of each quarter.
They knew your shopping habits.
Additionally, they typically knew what you wanted to buy.
Not surprisingly, they were willing to get it in for you if they didn't have it.
Unfortunately, with the advent of the internet and big box stores, much of the personal attention has gone by the wayside.
Boy, if you can get any attention from anybody in a big box store, you know.
Why is that you can't find anybody to get help anymore when you're in a one of the big box?
Apparently she got tired of doing that.
So now she's in a different I never see her.
But I just want to say something about the old shop owners.
It used to be not so much that they knew what you were going to order, but it was more or less you had an account with them.
And you'd buy your stuff and they'd just add it to the account at the end of the month.
They'd give you the bill and you'd pay it off.
And that was the way it was done in the local areas in Milwaukee where we lived.
Oh,
put it on the
Put it on
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
Like, this is when you instead of like a fist
is.
No, people still high five each other.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Not
context all the time.
But
maybe it's because I work with kids more.
Steer
John, don't make me walk in there and give you
Here we go.
Observed annually on April 17th, Haiku Poetry Day encourages all to try their hand at creativity.
The Haiku poetry is a form of Japanese poetry that is non-riming and usually consists of three lines with a syllable pattern of five, seven, five.
So they give an example here.
This is called Haiku the Other World by Richard Wright.
Oh, that's nice.
I think that's 23 and me 23 and me.
Yeah, that's right.
Ancestry is still happening.
Now, you know, we never got to that story on the show, but it was it was a nightmarish news story where all of all all these histories all these millions and millions of people now all of their information is for sale genetic makeup
up is for sale.
Oh my God.
That's not good.
Hey, Mark, Mark texted and said, you put straw down over the seeded areas.
Well, I haven't done it yet, but no, this stuff avoids the whole putting straw down thing.
Really?
Yeah.
No, that would make sense.
You
said that now, now it's not going to work.
OK, the answer's no,
OK, that's more definitive.
OK.
All right, coming up a little bit later on, we're going to be checking in with Cara Ogburn.
She's with the Milwaukee Film Fest.
She's the artistic director.
In fact, we'll have a couple of tickets to give away in our 7 o'clock hour.
And we'll check in with Judy Davidoff from the Isthmus about the latest issue.
That's out there.
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working?
Ah, there we go.
Got a good connection.
Good.
What do we got today?
Today in 19, I want to see if you remember any of this stuff.
Well, this all happened during your lifetimes.
Today in 1961, the Bay of Pigs invasion began.
You would have been a little tyke still then.
That was eight
Yes.
remember, you remember that?
That it was.
I didn't learn about it in school, really.
I kind of had to find out about it on my own, which is a
it history class then?
They wanted to
assignment.
He didn't know about World War II.
What?
Like he knew that it happened, but he didn't know anything
That's
assignment.
Both of your dads fought in World War II.
And John, you've got really young kids.
Did they ever get a chance to talk to your father about
What?
meant to
Yeah, yeah should have a chance part of that silent generation Yeah, they didn't like to talk about it.
They didn't talk about anything at all.
Yeah They never complained about Medicare.
They should have I live
through World War two.
I probably wouldn't have wanted to talk about it either
he was all right, obviously.
Just amazing.
You know, you get shot and you depend on other people to say, well, I'm going to try to save this guy.
You know, it's kind of a weird.
Where did he open the earth?
Where was he when he got shot?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about his experience there.
Again, my wife's brother knows more about this than I do.
Okay.
were young did either you want to be astronauts?
that Gordy did that change after Apollo 13 happened?
already a little older at that point
but today at 1970 Apollo 13 safely returned home.
Yeah, very yeah
That's
Yeah, I've seen the movie quite a few times.
you're gonna say if you're
something 2011 you guys ever watch Game of Thrones.
Yeah, I have not seen any of it I know that a lot of people are diehard fans so 2011 Game of Thrones
hit the screen for the first time.
2011, wow.
had like a horrible ending to, or like a very, very.
Like not satisfying ending.
no point even watching the show
as I'm
I don't know.
A lot of people seemed to like it, so I wanted to check it out.
Right.
But I didn't want to just jump right into the show.
So I wanted to see season one.
And they made an amazing decision.
They didn't really season one or allow you to see it without paying for it in some way, shape, or form.
And I'm thinking, well, does that help?
Maybe
they
rest of the damn
world's going to hell in a
First words John said to me when he came in this morning, you know, I just don't know what I'm gonna do with this program anymore
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We'll have
And it is time once again for Busted Pencils.
Tim Sliker is with us this morning talking education with an educator.
All right.
So, you know, there's so much to talk about, isn't there, Tim?
A little, you know, I mean, every so often.
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You want to tackle Harvard
with?
Either that or the use of condiments.
I wish I could remember the source, but that there is a school system that's going to start making sure that first graders or even pre-Ks have a one teaching, you know, every year starting, you know, that far down in the grades.
And that's just a.
That's a wonderful thing.
Kids are sponges.
They just absorb everything.
And so it wasn't all that long ago that we're going to have internet in our schools.
Now, OK, let's see A1 and how can that be helpful?
How can it be helpful in one-on-one instruction?
How can it be helpful in absorbing more information for those fast learners?
It can be more one-on-one directed.
And those are the kinds of things and innovations that I want to see continue to develop.
Here's a here's a comment from that post that I read.
McMahon keeps referring to A1 as or AI rather is A1 and talking about how it will help students at all levels.
But how can we get those students to drink it?
Linda added he they wrote the smarter kids can move up to
Thousand Island dressing Bring that into the class and then I have this web wisdom from somebody who also Observes something that I wasn't aware of during this conversation during this interview.
Let's listen to this is cut 179 and This person has an observation.
I think is important to add to this.
Let's listen
Trump's education secretary Linda McMahon just said she wants to incorporate a one steak sauce into our schools She seems to have gotten confused because she was on a panel about AI technology with a bunch of AI company CEOs who were trying to figure out how they can get the Trump administration to invest in their products The funniest part to me is that all these CEOs are trying to curry favor with the administration So no one corrected her and they just left it out there a one steak sauce in the school
Not to mention the fact that we have much bigger problems to solve in the U.S.
education system than figuring out how to integrate AI.
It would be a lot funnier if these people weren't running our government, and the price for their ignorance wasn't being paid by our kids and their
It could have been worse to sanitize.
crazy.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, it's really funny.
I mean, it's almost like, wow, what comics wrote this script?
But to think about it, you could tell, though, that what she was speaking was something that was already prepared, remarks for her, because if she would have said AI, the following kind of qualifiers that she used about one-on-one instruction, innovation, and things like that, those were...
very nice, well intended, and in fact, accurate statements.
And so what kind of points out that the reality is is that
she didn't really know that that was AI you
know
she really thought about A1 and so you'd sit there and go you know it was just a faux pas I don't know if it was a faux pas as much as it was somebody who really didn't understand that they were talking about how AI would be useful in schools and she jumped right into A1 so um
Having
see, it's not surprising, right?
Because these are comments that were not...
those weren't hers.
They
her.
Which again, points out that here, what are the qualifications of this person to be in charge of the nation's education?
We start to go, okay, well, how did she get this job?
And everybody knows exactly how she got this job.
But A1, you know, oh my goodness.
I mean, all the jokes, yeah, how do we get A1?
Well, and then I read somebody else who was like, hey, you know what, maybe this is good news for the school lunch program because maybe we'll start serving
add some
top.
You know, well, and like we said, and so, you know, we talked about this on busted pencils and, you know, there's a A1 sauce and, you know, back to the Nancy Reagan's use of ketchup,
Heinz ketchup
as a vegetable for school lunches, you know, because
You know, she made that comment with the sincerity of going, well, what do you mean?
Kids don't get their vegetables.
They have ketchup.
Yeah.
It's like, wait a minute.
What planet are
on?
What are we talking about?
I mean, especially, imagine, ketchup.
ketchup.
Have you read the ingredients of ketchup?
It's like, you know, red dye number 10 and sugar.
Yeah.
Um, I, I'm, I'm sorry.
I, uh, I, I was watching, uh, that discussion, that panel discussion that she was on and the two people she was talking to were advocates of private
privatization of schools.
And then she went on to explain a few things about how important it is to have a variety of different kinds of schools to go to, public and private and religious schools and how important it is just to have that option out there.
And then she went in to the idea that there'll be hybrids of learning and that is that some people will go to public school in the morning and then in the afternoon go to a private school and have private classes.
classes there.
It's just a little bit of convolution.
It's an education buffet.
Wait, Harvard is about to invest in A1.
Well,
Maybe they'll choose that instead.
Maybe that'll make the administration happy.
We were watching a little bit of coverage on CNN this morning on our monitor here in the studio, and they were talking about the fact that now Trump is threatening to prevent international students from attending Harvard as well.
That's the latest.
Yeah, that's the latest.
I mean, where do you...
Where do you start with this one?
You know, higher education and I think this is one of the ways to look at this is somebody saying, well, you know, they deserve it.
They're an elite woke institution.
They're a private university, right?
Making decisions about how they
admit students, whether or not they're going to have programs that talk about diversity, equity and inclusion and things like that.
The idea here, let's just forget about this being Harvard and talk about it being a private business and ask the question, would you or would we stand for government intrusion?
like this into a private business.
And I ask that question to, you know, conservatives, my neighbors, who I think, you know, if you broke this down into that simplicity of a kind of an equation, I think a lot of them would have real doubts about this being a policy that they feel comfortable with.
I mean, taking the seriousness to say, it's just like, wait a minute, what are we doing here?
What are the implications, the government making denial of students?
And I keep coming back to this one as being really, to me, the most concerning is that they continue to hear about wanting to actually control.
what is taught what is taught and Okay, so Harvard is the most elite Institution with some of the best researchers produced the you know what the the most presidents of the United States And we're gonna we're questioning whether or not they're teaching the appropriate content All of a sudden now wait
minute
Harvard, can you believe what they're teaching at Harvard?
We've got to control that because I mean people, it's an elite institution.
I'm glad to see them really fighting back and hopefully providing some type of an example as a resistance.
But I also do worry about the higher education in general.
for the places that aren't Harvard, that don't have the resources and the clout to actually put up a resistance the way they are.
And again, the implications of changing and actually requiring different curricula or how things are taught and what is taught, how many institutions of higher education
already have made those decisions to, you know, obey in advance and to avoid
The type of scrutiny that that their resources just would not give them the ability to deal with and that's you know That is is where you start thinking about all of those small state institutions small private institutions community colleges who are out there doing the work of educating the workforce Who who are saying you know what we?
just don't have the ability to put up a resistance to this we're going to comply because actually we have a lot of real important work to do and we just don't have the time bandwidth and resources to put up a resistance to this and how much of this really is the intention then of this administration to realize that you're going to get 80 to 90 compliance below the harbors
just by simply creating this type of news.
Well, there are a big protest going on all across the country including right here in Madison at noon today in the library mall.
There's gonna be a protest and What the point of the protest is to urge the UW Madison to join the Big Ten mutual defense compact and commit to share resources and strategic support among all the 18 of the Big Ten universities
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Yeah, I find out about these protests, these organized protests around the country to join in and defend as a group against what Trump is trying to do to the universities, calling curriculum, having somebody oversee who they hire, all of that.
It's insane, it's crazy.
And because of that, I saw it on TV last night, it was on Rachel Maddow,
and she showed a picture of the isthmus, and I guess it might even be in today's isthmus, that the headline about
this organized protest at noon on the library mall.
So I don't know how they got the message or news out to them.
I looked on their side, I didn't see an announcement for this story.
But yeah, it's kind of interesting.
It's hitting it.
And the problem is university, our university is still not on board with this.
And Tim, I think the problem here in these local smaller colleges is that
the colleges are funded by the legislatures.
And if it's a conservative legislature, they're going to penalize and punish those universities if they join in on something like this.
They'll call it woke and, you know, indoctrination and they'll start cutting funding as they always do.
Right.
Yeah.
And, you know, that's why I said that that's the concern of joining into a movement and.
resistance movement and that's why now coming back it's it's good to see the Harvard's stepping up because they have the resources they have the credibility they have that that kind of you know long type of relationship also with their alumni very powerful alumni in the country who are
I think probably sitting there going like, wait a minute, what purpose does it serve to break down one of the most reputable institutions in the world?
What's the game going to be at the end of the day by destroying an institution that, as they say,
You know, if you get in and graduate from Harvard, the rest of your life, because of the connections to the alumni right there, it's frightening.
I worry about it.
But, you know, at the same time, too, we were talking during the break, there is also, there's a petition and a letter out right now nationally that has, last I checked, this was maybe three days ago, so I'm going to bet there are more, but 60 university past and present
presidents have signed on to this petition to, you know, kind of push back on the Trump administration to say, you know, this, this is not something that is cool and in kosher.
And, you know, I don't know.
It made me think, though, too, that.
You know, maybe if we just all ordered a one, you know, things would be better.
know,
maybe Harvard's tactic would be to say, you know what, how about this?
How about in all dining facilities in Harvard, we're going to use a one from now on, you
that's that.
And then and then I was thinking, you know, hey, let's go.
So even further, maybe Grey Poupon.
Sounds woke.
Now we had a few comments by the way, some text here from a Doug Rock musician and singer Meatloaf appeared on a TV commercial for the product and promoted his slogan, A1 Makes Beef Sing.
But, you know, meatloaf, why not, right?
And here's another one, John in Middleton.
Some folks learned to read by perusing cereal boxes and steak sauce bottles.
I learned by reading ketchup bottles.
And I'm still confused.
Thank you for that comment, John.
A1 steak sauce.
It's got electrolytes.
It's what plants crave in the afternoon.
So that's from Matt out in Middleton.
Oh, it's it's fun stuff.
You know, I mean, we could I do want to play this one comment from Harvard University Professor Andrew Crespo.
This is cut 153.
Let's listen.
Given Harvard is the first school that we've seen respond this way, how does that impact your lawsuit and what does that mean for this going forward?
Well, I think the Trump administration's decision to cut $2.2 billion from Harvard tonight makes clear just how essential this lawsuit is and how critical this fight is and why it's so important for Harvard and really every university in the country to take a stand at this critical moment because this is a clear
unquestionable violation of First Amendment rights.
You mentioned some of the demands that the administration has made of Harvard.
It includes things like trying to appoint a federally named oversight official to do an audit of every course, every department at Harvard to see if we have
ideological balance to meet the Trump administration's test for what we teach and what we say at these universities.
It's a transparent effort to change what is taught, what we say in our classrooms, what we teach our students, to make sure that the only things that are actually set on university campuses are things that the Trump administration wants to hear.
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