The Grouchy Captain

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The Grouchy Captain

John & Gordy · Tue Apr 15, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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John and Gordy in the morning and a big hat tip and a dedication to Van Edwards passed away.

We attended his funeral yesterday and and I mentioned it because He was a legend in this town

right

broadcasting.

Yeah, WIBA FM He was the voice of that station for so many years and he was just a really good guy and I wanted to say something because

Of course, we broadcast over the airwaves, and I'm hoping that somewhere along the way, he catches wind of this.

There you go.

Yeah.

It was a celebration of life.

Yeah.

Kind of

get together and saw a lot of other people from broadcasting, from our era, from the earlier days, all getting up there.

in the years.

Yeah.

Yeah, we all kind of

changed our look a little bit.

Just a

little.

Yeah.

It was good.

It was good celebration.

It was.

It was.

A lot of

old stories, things I didn't know about the past, things we did.

Yeah.

So, uh, Jack Mitchell, my old program director.

Yeah.

From IBA?

Yes.

Yeah, he was there.

Guy hired me at Q106.

Really?

When I first moved to Madison, he put me on at the station and moved me around to a few time slots.

Mm-hmm.

But he had a few stories, you know, that I didn't remember.

I actually don't remember much from those days.

Right?

A long time

ago.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Sly was there?

Saw Sly

talking for a few minutes.

We hope to have Sly on the show a few times now that he's retiring from doing voice tracking for WIBAFM.

So yeah, he'll be in here and hopefully, you know, have a few opinions, never short on those.

Right.

Yeah, a few other personalities we used to work with that triple M were there.

Yes.

Some other some other folks.

So it was good to see everybody and get caught up.

Yeah.

Yeah, now I'm caught up.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

It's John and Gordy in the morning.

That's us, along with producer Sam Davison.

Oh, yes.

Flipping the switches, punching the buttons.

We've got a producer for the show.

Yeah.

If you're not familiar with him yet, he's Sam and he's... It's only like I've

been here the whole time the show's been running just about.

That's true.

Well, yes.

From day

one.

We're looking for your replacement and, you know...

Yeah, we want to replace you.

It's nine minutes past the hour.

Yeah, we had a little rain earlier.

Yeah.

And currently it's a little chilly out there, 37 degrees.

But do you have your Samsung WMDX watch fired up yet?

I actually do.

Afternoon high.

I'll look past right at the window

there, the window thermometer, the WMDX outdoor thermometer.

Or again, you know, the official WMDX Samsung watch.

Right.

indicates that we have 37 degrees currently and a high of 52 today.

52.

Okay.

Well let's

get the

sunset sunrise.

Oh yeah.

Yeah,

let's get that.

Sunrise at 6.15 this morning.

We're very close to that right now.

And I'm kind of excited about that.

And then tonight's sunset at 7.40.

We talked to Gary Canolty yesterday.

Yeah, Gary was there.

I hadn't seen him in many, many years.

27 weather, right?

Channel three.

Oh channel forever

and ever.

Yeah, I knew it But here's the thing yeah, I asked him about the the taco burrito.

Oh Whether right

gimmick that they used to have and he knew about it.

I know.

Oh, yeah, we've been doing that for years and you you didn't know anything about it.

I had no idea.

Well, I didn't yeah,

I think Indiana even knows anything about the

Taco Burrito thing.

Probably not.

I don't know.

I that was the first I'd heard of it.

Yeah, yeah, it was Gary.

It was great to catch up with Gary Canaldi.

Yeah, you look good.

Yeah, he's relaxed.

Yeah, retired, you know.

Yep.

Does these he does those holiday trips, you know, he still does that.

Yes, you're going to Alaska and he told me they're going somewhere else, too He's got Alaska lined up and some other some other faraway place fiance met his fiance.

Is he

married?

Yes, he's remarried.

Yes,

okay.

He's remarried.

Yeah, okay, and he met her through through one of the vacations.

Yeah.

Yeah, anyway

Wow.

I mean, you know, we're filling in on what's going on.

If you're familiar with Gary, who's a nice guy?

Super guy.

Yeah.

Big Cub fan, by the way.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's right.

He's

got season tickets every year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's let's move

on.

We didn't check the afternoon high on the what do we use?

What do we use today?

We haven't done the one

arm

banded.

Let's hit that.

First number zero four nine Forty-nine is predicted how you had 51 and you're

55.

I

think wasn't it was 51 Sam doesn't know

He's already checked that's why you're looking for my replacement, right?

Actually 52 was the predicted high for the official WMD

Let's get to the national day calendar, see what, you know what day it is today.

April 15th, it's national tax day, okay?

Oh boy.

It's also, is it or is it not National Glazed Spiral Ham Day?

Is it National Titanic Remembrance Day?

National Rubber Eraser Day?

National Take a Wild Guest Day?

Or National Suspenders Day?

Red Suspender's Day.

It's not Red Suspender's Day.

You always try to force yourself on us.

That's your go-to,

man.

That

is.

Yeah, no, it's not national.

You win on a shiny new dime.

There you

go.

All right.

Hey, we got a, we got a texture from Anna, said Van Edwards.

Had a great voice.

Had a great voice.

He was the voice of the devil's advocates for many years.

That's right.

Yes, that's, that's true.

Yeah.

And

Oh, somebody, Anna also says I was on a holiday Rhine River cruise with Gary Canofi in September.

He's a good guy and the trip was great.

Yeah, that's

fantastic.

He does two or three of these trips a year, that's it for him.

Yeah, it must be, that's a good gig.

It is, yeah.

see the world okay it's national laundry day why would we need a day

to do your one day a year this is kind of a general reminder that maybe you should do your laundry it's not like everybody you know oh i can't wait to do it because it's natural national laundry day seems

like a made-up

day okay

yeah national glazed spiral ham day do you like

Spiral.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You have it all the time.

Oh, but you get spiral hams, I hope.

No.

Really, you cut it yourself?

No.

What?

No.

Spiral hams.

What

am I going to buy a whole ham just for me?

No.

Well, your

family?

You get together every once in a while.

Not really.

No.

OK.

I'm sad.

They've disowned me.

They've disowned

me.

OK.

National Titanic, remember its day.

Remember the Titanic?

Yeah, well, it started sinking on April 15th in 1912.

1500 people went down with the boat.

The unsinkable ship, they called it.

Well, that proved not to be true.

And it's maiden voyage from England to New York City.

Okay.

You know, one of the

things that I remember.

Yeah, you like the movie?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The very first Titanic movie, which was traumatizing for me as a kid.

Way back in the old days, before streaming and movies, 24 hour, 724, they had Saturday night at the movies.

Yeah.

And really, the family would kind of wait and see what big movie they would have.

They always have a first-run movie.

Right.

And Titanic was on.

And I was a young kid.

And when I saw that thing...

and the devastation and the horror traumatized me.

I think maybe that's where I got the fear of water after that.

I'm thinking I'm not getting in the water anymore.

This is it.

The nightmares after that.

You

won't go on a boat.

I didn't know that you had a fear of water.

I don't like water at all.

Deep water freaks me out.

Really?

I did take a few cruises across Lake Michigan.

And that's kind of fun.

I don't know why it

knuckling the railing the whole time

Well, yeah, I was talking.

Yeah, I wanted with friends that you know kept me distracted But I'm thinking, you know, why is this fun?

You know, there's nothing there's nothing really to see out in the middle of it like Michigan Do you like

going on the ferry up at Merrimack?

I do.

I love that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, that's right That's a white knuckler there.

You

never

know

That machine is going through, you know.

It's on a big cable, you know, some big cables underneath it just

goes break.

You're stranded out floating out there.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know if anybody saw this thing, but if you have a chance, there was it's hit.

X and it's all over but there's a monster truck a big I think a big green monster truck and it's loaded up with Megas on top of the truck on a big platform on top of the mega truck I mean this is really high right okay and so they decided to go through a pond

Oh

wait, I did see

this.

Did you see

that?

The video and

then

people start falling off.

Yes.

Well, the truck is completely submerged.

You can see the driver's ready to get out.

Oh, the driver did get out.

He's bailing out.

And all these people had jumped it off and it was a total disaster.

Right.

What were they thinking?

It was crazy.

Maybe they should have known it was a little deeper pond than... Perhaps.

Oh my God.

Yeah, that was scary.

Watch that.

Well, in anybody with a monster truck, I can see them doing that.

All right, back to the national day calendar here for a moment.

We got a couple more.

National rubber eraser day.

It's okay to make a mistake, John.

Correcting mistakes since 1770.

The national rubber eraser people commemorate this date as the invention date.

The eraser now this is our second year doing this, you know I remember rubber eraser day because I told you the horror story that nightmare I had I Was a little kid and the dream I had the rubber erasers are actually the clouds in the sky.

Oh God

with a giant clown on stilts.

Remember that?

Holy crap.

What's the clown doing?

He

was walking around and I'm looking up at him and then the clouds that are rubber erasers.

It's something.

Well, obviously, I haven't forgotten it to this day.

You had a troubled childhood, my friend.

Gay.

That's it for the National

Day

Calendar.

We'll check in with Sam Davison on history stuff coming up.

On John

and Gordy

in

the morning!

Dang it!

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Okay.

All right.

All right.

If I'm not mistaken, you know, that rocket ship went up with some women on it, right?

They were all women.

It was all

women.

I thought there were some men on there.

No, there were no

men.

Are you sure?

I'm positive.

You

doubt my word, my friend?

Well, I've been watching the video of the people getting out of a capsule.

I'm pretty sure it was all women.

And they said that Bezos fell.

And when he got out of the caps, he started walking and then he just fell over.

Well, I don't think he was.

So they show somebody falling over.

I thought it was Bezos.

Well, she kept her married name.

I don't know.

Well, I don't know.

You're

looking at it up there.

You're just making things up.

I'm not making it up.

You know, you kind of lose your balance, you know, your weightless maybe for a few minutes or seconds.

I don't know what they went up.

They're in the first place, but I think they should have come down on the rocket ship and not in some kind of damn cap.

So what a chickens way to get out of it Take your chances.

Here's

the picture of all of them.

There's Jeff Bezos, but he was you know, he's dressed in jeans He wasn't on there and then here's another guy on the other end of it.

It was all women six women Kale King Katy Perry and then four other women.

Well, I

guess you prove me wrong

No, I'm sticking with the story All

right, they went up they came back everything's good.

They were up there only for like 10 minutes It

wasn't a long I know but but they made a big deal about the fact that somebody fell.

I Okay, I didn't see that part of the story.

I guess I'm looking it up now.

All right, let's see

What it's time for the history here Sam here watch watch watch excited Jeff Bezos face plant in a painful tumble as he As he got out of the capsule Wait, he was up there too.

Yeah, it was carrying his fiance.

Okay

He was in it in space though, I don't know doesn't really matter.

I think

he just went in to get her out of there To welcome her home

Okay.

All right.

Well, you know, we'll

delve a little deeper into the story.

Seems like we're going to go around

in

circles here.

Okay, excuse me.

But it's good to know he face planted anyway.

I'm happy about that.

Are you?

Okay.

Billionaire

jerks.

Sam, do we have anything in the history books?

Oh boy, do we.

Okay.

Where do we even start?

Today in 1865.

President Lincoln passed away at about 7.22 in the morning.

That's right.

Yeah, after being shot at Ford's Theater the night before.

You mentioned a little earlier, the sinking of the Titanic also occurred today in the middle of the night.

Yeah, 2.20

a.m.

Today in 1947, Jackie Robinson, he made his big league debut with the Dodgers in 1947 today.

Today in 1955, Ray Kroc, you guys know Ray Kroc.

Sure.

Sure.

He began franchising McDonald's.

He opened his first McDonald's location and boy, did it grow from there.

Boy, it took off.

I don't know how many, you just get like a bag full of hamburgers.

The big deal, the thing they used to advertise was you get change back from a dollar.

I know it.

Yeah.

Burgers only cost 15 cents.

Do

they still have a dollar menu at McDonald's?

No.

Boy, they phase that out

fast, didn't they?

Well, it wasn't too long ago that you could still get just like a plain hamburger

for

one dollar, I think.

I don't know if you can anymore, though.

But back in 1955, when he opened his first location, a hamburger was 15 cents.

That was a long time

ago.

It was a long time.

When I was a kid, we ate at McDonald's not all the time, but with some.

regularity i guess did you guys ever do that or was it too early for

no sure oh yeah we did it all the time my my neighbor was a gearhead and he put engines together taught me how to do it but you know he'd be working under the car and say hey could you go to mcdonald's and get a whole bunch of this i'll buy a couple hamburgers and

You know, it's not like he was super generous.

They're 15 cents apiece.

But yeah, I took my bike and I rode like two or three miles down the street to get hamburgers at the first McDonald's.

There was

one time my dad, a friend of a friend of my dad was remodeling his house and he said, hey, if you come over and help me do some demolition for the day, then I'll pay you.

And so my dad and one of his friends showed up to this guy's house and they, after a long day were like,

really tired out from tearing down this wall and all that stuff.

And he's like, hey, can you pay me for my day's work?

And the guy was like, oh, you know that McDonald's you had for lunch?

Well, that was your

pay.

Uh, birthdays.

It's Leonardo da Vinci's birthday today.

I

don't know if that's...

How old is he?

Well, he was born in 1452, so how

old does

that put him at?

I don't know.

You're

the

math major.

500, some 550 something years old.

He's getting up there.

He's a historian.

He likes history.

Although he has tried to do numbers here on the show.

I don't know.

I'm going to send you... What?

A competitor to McDonald's in Milwaukee.

What's it called?

It was called the Grouchy Captain.

The Grouchy Captain?

What kind of food did they sell?

It was the same kind of food.

What?

But I gotta tell you that it was just so much fun to hear the Grouchy Captain come on and talk about, you know...

They had a mascot?

Like an actual guy dressed up as a Grouchy captain?

Well, he would, he would go on these commercials and talk about, you know.

Yeah.

What?

Being grouchy.

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As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point, a dumbing down, until humanity was incapable of solving even its most basic problems.

Now listen,

Grapehead.

I'll explain it so even you can understand it.

We can duck and cover.

There's a fallout shelter right there.

There's no way to survive this, you idiot!

Idiocracy.

For the smartest guy in the world, you're pretty dumb sometimes.

634.

Dumb all the time.

It's John and Gordy, 92.7 WMDX.

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All right, and we all sit to play these ancient old ads from Cappy's Drive in the...

competition to McDonald's in Milwaukee.

Is this what the grouchy captain is over here?

The grouchy captain did all the ads for him.

This was way back when.

Way back when.

Okay, let's listen.

Grouchy

captain at Cappy's driving at 62nd and Fondlack.

If you and your crew feel like you've been in the brig on bread and water for days, set sail for Cappy's.

The driving where even the admiral stows away his chow.

If it's Easter sailing, Capy's is on your port side.

And if you're sailing westward, then Capy's is on your starboard side.

So get out your compass, plot your cords on the charts, and put it down in the log.

Cappies is the port where the best hamburgers are to be found for only 15 cents.

Cheeseburgers are 20 cents and french fries are just 15 pieces of 8.

A sense.

Sorry, mates.

Ever since I found that old treasure chest in Milwaukee, I've been dreaming about gold.

Landlubbers tell me my triple-flick shakes are as good as gold, you know, and they're only 22 cents.

Yes, sir, if it's treasure you want, then Cappies is the place you'll find at the business end of your telescope.

Let the winds blow you straight to 62nd and Fond du Lac.

Cappy's driving.

Remember the old grouchy captain invited you to come aboard.

Grouchy captain.

So you had to kind of wonder why the shakes were 22 cents.

Extra two cents.

I don't understand that exactly.

Should we play the other one?

Oh sure, why not?

Let's play the other one.

They're kind of fun to listen to the prices anyway.

So you set sail without supplies, did you?

Well, now the best place for a hungry crew to put into port is the Grouchy Captain's Galley.

Cappy's driving the top of the mass place in town.

I've got the fastest cabin boys who ever swabbed a deck to serve you, and the best hamburgers, shakes, and french fries this side of Singapore.

In American money, a hamburger will cost you 15 cents.

Steer a street course now.

Head into 62nd and Fond du Lac.

Cappy's driving Wow,

that's okay.

What was that?

That was the jingle after that is

there is this recorded off a radio?

Yeah, no

radio off a radio back in the probably fifties.

Yeah, man.

Wow.

Cappy's driving Wonder whatever happened.

I'll cap 66 then Fond du Lac streets in Milwaukee

Should

I go to the

corner there and see if Capy's is still there?

It's on the north side, so it's a little north of Capitol Drive.

Yeah, Capy's driving.

Okay.

Well, should we get to idiocracy?

Phone lines are open.

608-879-8255.

Would it be great if the Grouchy captain were

still around

today?

I

would

listen to those ads.

I don't know if those ads are all that appealing to kids or, you know,

to

anybody.

What is your impression of the Grouchy Captain?

Well, it sounds like...

I don't know.

He sounds grumpy.

He sounds

grouchy.

You

know, why would you want to

go there for

hamburgers?

You don't know what's going on behind the scenes there.

He seems a little ordinary.

Well, you know, he seemed kind of happy in one because he just found that treasure chest gold.

Pieces of eight.

Fifteen

pieces of eight?

Yes.

Okay.

Very

strange.

Oh man.

Okay.

He's very very very sad But that's my past Okay, sad past.

Okay, we're gonna get to some well, you know, this is a democracy and I'm always trying to explain idiocracy We're all trying to do that and we also have one of my favorite people Melanie Stansberry.

She is best describing what's going on there in the house.

So why don't we why don't we have a cut from her?

It's

It's 120 and it's how doge is looting the government.

Let's check this out here.

Now anyone who's in business knows that if you're gonna go in front of a boardroom and present your case You've got to have compelling data.

You've got to have an analysis of what you're trying to accomplish You've got to have an analysis of the money that you're gonna save and a proposal and a plan for how you're gonna execute that and I think the thing that is Trumbling about the entire doge exercise is that it doesn't seem to have a coherent theory It doesn't appear to have a plan.

It doesn't appear

to be utilizing data and it doesn't appear to be executing on any kind of coherent theory of how we're saving money

for the

federal

government.

As we learned here today, it will actually cost the federal government more money if they sell these vital assets to private companies who will then lease them back to federal agencies for more money.

It's troubling to try to understand.

And I think it kind of goes along with the troubling theory of the case that Donald Trump seems to have about the economy overall, because as my colleague pointed out, we're sitting here talking about microphones and furniture in an office building while the economy is tanking and trillions of dollars in losses are happening.

And we know that the potential for both a recession and costs are going to go up, which will cost the federal government.

more money.

So what's the theory of the case here?

What I think is interesting about what we heard here today is that some of the quiet part was said out loud.

In fact, what was stated by some of the other members on this panel was that they'd like to sell valuable real estate to private developers, potentially demolish federal buildings like this, sell them potentially to private equity and developers, and then they can lease back and make money off of it.

And that's exactly what this scheme is all about because this is what we're seeing across the entire DOGE effort and across the administration.

That's

right.

And this is

not really about public interest.

This is, as we keep saying, the private equity model.

Privatize, buy low, sell high, make lots of money.

This is what the DOGE bros are all about.

But we know that there is real data coming in July, as was stated by the GAO, that will help us take a data-driven approach.

Now, I also want to point out some other ironies one of my colleagues quoted Milton Friedman, which I found actually quite funny because Elon Musk himself has also been quoting Milton Friedman over the weekend because he thought the international trade was good and tariffs were bad.

Anybody, anybody, Donald Trump is crashing the economy over tariffs.

We also heard my colleagues across the aisle talk about right sizing and writing the fiscal ship while they're literally about to try to vote tomorrow on a budget proposal that will increase the deficit by $37 trillion over the next 30 years.

This would raise the debt ceiling by $4 trillion just this year and would cost the United States the largest amount of debt ever in the history of its 250

So if what we're about here is

trying to root out waste, fraud, and abuse,

make

the government more efficient, save the government money.

What are they trying to do with the sell-off and privatization of the federal government?

What are they trying to do with downsizing and firing thousands of federal employees?

So I'll close out by saying this.

Hands off our social security, hands off our Medicaid, hands off our Medicare, hands off the VA, hands off our education, and hands off our vital programs and the services and the federal assets that

make them possible.

There you go.

Okay.

Fun, huh?

That says it all, huh?

She is so good at laying this thing out.

Who was that again?

Could you queue up 86?

That was Melanie Stansbury.

Okay.

And she's a representative from New Mexico.

And she's been doing this.

I mean, we're constantly playing her cuts now because

she

is really out there.

Kind of breaking this whole thing down.

She knows what she's talking about.

She also mentioned that, you know, Elon has been posting videos of Milton Friedman.

And it's just crazy stuff.

So I used to watch these Friedman videos on YouTube.

in the past and they're just hilarious because they're just so out of touch.

Let's listen to this cut.

This is Milton Friedman and his perspective on free markets, no governments.

When you go down the store and buy this pencil, you are in effect trading a few minutes of your time for a few seconds of the time of all those thousands of people.

What brought them together and induced them to cooperate to make this pencil?

there was no commissar sending out offices from sending out orders from some central office it was a magic of the price system the impersonal operation of prices that brought them together and got them to cooperate to make this pencil so that you could have it for a trifling sum that is why the operation of the free market is so essential not only to promote productive efficiency but even more

to foster harmony and peace among the peoples of the world.

Yep, there you go.

So

can you queue up 87?

Cut 87.

This is what happens when you just go with the free market, the invisible hand of the free market.

Let's listen.

This is green.

What

do you think you made a mistake then?

I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interest...

Hold on, I just want to explain this.

Okay.

Henry Waxman, representative of grilling Ellen Greenspan.

He was the guy who really just took off on this free market stuff and it crashed the economy with a great recession.

Let's listen again.

In presuming that the self interest of organizations, specifically banks and others were such is that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders.

The question I have for you is you had an ideology.

You had a belief.

that free competitive, and this is your statement, I do have an ideology.

My judgment is that free competitive markets are by far the unrivaled way to organize economies.

We've tried regulation, none meaningfully worked.

That was your quote.

You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis.

You were advised to do so by many others.

And now our whole economy is paying its price.

You feel

that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made.

Well, remember that what a not ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality.

Everyone has one.

You have to, to exist, you need an ideology.

The question is whether it is accurate or not.

And what I'm saying to you is yes, I found a flaw

I don't know how significant or permanent it is, but I've been very distressed by that.

But if I may, may I just finish and answer the question?

You found the flaw in the reality.

The flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right.

It

was not working.

Precisely.

That's precisely the reason.

I was shocked because I had been dying for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.

And it didn't.

After almost two decades of public service, he realizes that the economic philosophy that he had pushed so hard, resisting regulation and derivatives, he realized that there were some fundamental flaws in that whole philosophy.

Yep, there you go.

The free market philosophy failed completely.

The Great Recession hit us hard.

And Ellen Greenspan, of course, admitted right there that the free market didn't work.

Exactly.

Now, a year later, he changed his mind and he thought, you know, he thought through the whole thing.

It still could work.

Second and third

doubt.

Really?

These guys never really changed their stripes.

He had to rethink it a couple of times.

Yeah.

OK.

It is 648.

Coming up next, we'll be talking with the Dane County Humane Society.

Lisa Bernard will join us talking about a few pets that are available for adoption.

And then coming up at our seven o'clock hour, we've got tickets to the Milwaukee Film Festival.

And also Liz Johnston from Serenity Pet Spa will join us in our seven o'clock hour.

Right here on John and Gordy in the morning with producer Sam, pushing those buttons and switches.

raising his eyebrows.

Sam's the producer.

He

Kathryn Lake

is the producer.

We're coming right back.

on some pet to love.

Sure.

Right here on WMDX, John and Gordy in the

morning.

It's 6 51.

Some clouds out there.

We had a little rain earlier.

Looks like that's moving out our high today about about 50 degrees with a mix of clouds and some sunshine.

Time for us to welcome in from the Dane County Humane Society, Lisa Bernard.

Good morning, Lisa.

Good morning.

So you've got a few pets up for adoption and let's

get right into it.

What do we want to start with?

Rambo Jr, you've got a, I'm looking at a picture of Rambo here.

He looks like a friendly, friendly dog.

What

kind of dog is that?

A 70 pound pop.

Wow.

Yeah.

So yes, he's, he's a one year old pit bull mix.

Um, he, he is a little shy at first, but I heard a few volunteers chatting about him.

rather gushing about him because he is just a snuggle bug once he gets to meet you.

He loves to lean into you as you're petting him.

He loves to just get really close and snuggle with you.

He thinks he's a 70 pound lap dog, which is just

adorable.

He wants

the best friend to love.

He's so loyal that when you go out to

the yards with him.

He's like right next to you.

He's like, I'm here.

I'm right next to you, staying close.

He has lived with other dogs, but we do recommend slow introductions.

And he's really interested in cats.

So if you have one, I would suggest

being careful or maybe not having a cat in your house.

Also, because he's more afraid of loud noises, we're also recommending that he doesn't go to home with children.

Okay.

That's Rambo Jr.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

All right, let's get to the parakeets here.

You have two of them because it's Scarlett, the female in Vance.

the male, and they've been together for two years.

You've got to have them both together.

You can't separate these two, right?

That's true.

They've been together since they lived in the previous house.

So Scarlett's a blue parakeet, whereas Vance is a white one, and they're looking for a home together.

Like you said, they are very, very, very sweet together, and that's why they should go together.

Um, they love to cuddle.

They groom each other.

They're very, very sweet.

They even snuggle with each other when they sleep.

Um, you know, like all couples, sometimes they get into little squats with each other.

Really?

Yeah.

Yes.

But they make up so quickly and it's almost like it never happened.

Yeah, that's

pretty

wild.

That's pretty cool.

All right.

And you also have a very shy cat named Lucky.

Tell us about Lucky, Lisa.

Yes.

So Lucky is a black cat.

He's two years old.

He came to us and he's very, very shy.

So we put him in an office and he's been coming around more quickly.

He's more comfortable in his surroundings.

And as he becomes more comfortable, he's becoming also more social and even enjoys laying on laps.

We've

been told that by his previous family that he's really friendly and affectionate and that he enjoys being brushed and playing with toys.

I'm sure that once he gets more acclimated to his space, he's gonna start showing those other

activities and interests as well that he likes.

So he's looking for a patient family who's just going to give him the time he needs to settle in.

Yeah.

And that's, that's a story on lucky.

And again, you have those two parakeets, Scarlett and what was the other?

Oh, Vance and Rambo juniors, the pit bull mix.

So if anybody out there is interested in perhaps adopting one of these animals, how do they do that, Lisa?

So they would stop by Dane County Humane Society when we are open on Tuesdays our adoption center is open from two to seven and for Lucky your best thing to do is to just go to the adoption center and ask about him because he is in an office that is not accessible to the public whereas

Scarlett Vance and Rambo Jr., you can see them in the public areas, but you still have to meet with them, so you'll have to chat with the adoption center staff or volunteers and meet with them.

And we'll tell you everything we know about them.

Okay, very good.

Anything else we should know about what's happening at the Dane County Humane Society this time of year?

Any upcoming events or open houses, things like that?

Uh, well, right now we have, uh, summer camp that's still looking for kids who want to join.

Oh, that's right.

Uh, so we have camp paw prints and we have our new camp wild side.

And then this Friday we're trying something new for camp where it's adults camp.

So the kids don't get to have all the fun, right?

Right.

Right.

So, um, but, and you could, uh, either show up.

and pay $25 or pre-register for $20.

What happens at these camps?

I'm just, you know, I'm familiar with this.

Adult camp seems kind of fun, but I'm not.

You don't know what you're in for?

What are you doing at these camps?

So for the adult camp, it's gonna, they're gonna have different themes and it'll be held on a Friday night once a month except during the summer.

And this one is gonna be, they're gonna learn about

body handling for animals as well as how to crochet cat toys.

And your skill level can be, I've never crocheted before or I'm a master at

the chain.

And it's just a fun time to hang out, learn more about animals, deal engaged with our classroom animals, which is really fun too.

We have two rats, Thelma and Louise, two guinea pigs.

And

we have a 20 year old corn snake named Ranger Jake.

Ranger Jake.

He's so cool.

He's just very relaxed

and

chill.

So come on down.

We've got rats and snakes.

Lisa Bernard from the Dane County Humane Society.

Thank you for joining us, Lisa.

We'll talk to you again in a couple of weeks.

Good to have you

with us.

All

right, thank you.

You want to

find out more?

Thank you.

You can go to their website, giveshelter.org.

Coming up next, we'll give away some tickets to the Milwaukee Film Festival.

and a whole lot more on

John and Gordy.

Kathryn Lake

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