Kicking off their second hour, John and Gordy cover a Republican bill aiming to repeal the DNR Green Tier program, out of fear of 'world government.' They talk Trump, who was caught stealing from a dog rescue charity, his responsibility for the failed border deal, and more. Later, they welcome State Representative Francesca Hong to the show. They discuss paid leave, free school lunch, more on the Green Tier program, fair maps, coffee at the capitol, and affordable housing. Closing out, and back with Kathryn, we hear Charlie Sykes' comments about Donald Trump and NATO, and news about Jenny Cavnar, now the first woman to be a commentator for the MLB.

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