0:00 - They continue the conversation by explaining how the collapse of societal norms and a common basis for idea exchange has led to the current rise of continuous fringe and extremist political movements, as well as common sentiment around politics not being solution-oriented.

20:50 - Earl and Sandy continue to explain how our lack of a solution-oriented sentiment around political issues creates "hate politics", distracting citizens and public servants from the positives and resources available to address real issues.

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