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Changeability: great for a chameleon, not for a justice (Hour 1)
The Dom Salvia Show · Thu Mar 13, 2025
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You know, I had a, I don't know what day was it, man.
I don't know.
It might have been Monday or Tuesday.
There was a rally in racing.
And man, I must have had 150 people with signs and protests, man, the old throwback stuff.
And well, yeah, man, cause I was.
probably one of the youngest people there.
And man, they were organized with these signs and we were on the plaza in Racine and I was the keynote speaker.
It was about Donald Trump, man.
These people had organized four years ago.
to protest Donald Trump and and so after Donald Trump lost his election they kind of went away but they've come back and stronger not man it's it was really just unbelievable to see all of those people
organized, fighting with signs, blocking the streets, man.
And they weren't college students.
They were the great, great grandparents of college
And of course, we got to talk about the debate last night that was constant.
Supreme Court candidate debate, Brad Schimel, Susan Crawford, I'm going to go there as well.
But as we've done over the last several shows, and thank you folks for putting up with my absence yesterday, thank you, Jess.
And of course, our pal, Matt Ross, child, Angela Lang, a fill in in yesterday prior to civic media's coverage of this event.
The Marcus man, let's just talk about the closing bell as we stand I don't know what it maybe it's just when I'm on the radio because the markets didn't do terrible yesterday But today again, they're sliding once again bear with me briefly here.
Here's the update from CNBC stocks fell on Thursday with equities unable to shake a Three-week market route under the weight of new tariff threats from President Donald Trump the S&P 500 dropped 1.39% Yet that index ended the day in correction 10.1%
off its record close.
Yeesh, the Dow Jones fell 1.3% marking its fourth year declines.
The Nasdaq Composite shed almost 2% with shares like Tesla and Apple being lower.
Trump took to his truthy social platform on Monday, I'm sorry, Thursday.
to threaten 200% tariffs on
The, as CNBC reports, the disorderly rollout, as that's one way to put it, of Trump's US trade policies rattled markets with investors worried.
It was pressuring corporate and consumer confidence.
Yes, it is.
Losses have intensified this week.
The S&P 500 and NASDAQ are respectively on track for losses of 4.3 and 4.9% week to date.
That's this week.
The Dow is off about 4.7% this week, tracking for its worst.
week since June of 22.
Now the NASDAQ was already well into correction territory heading into Thursday's session and now sits at more than 14% below its recent record.
The Russell 2000 small cap benchmark is approaching a bear market roughly down 19% from its high 19%.
Now on Wall Street corrections are defined as losses of 10% and bear markets are drawdowns of 20%.
uh, those are, those are, those are big numbers.
And, you know, we also like to look at the volatility, volatility, the VIX up almost 3% today.
So there's, there's the update, the closing bell.
And it's amazing Earl to hear some of these Republicans talk about, oh, this is, this is good.
This is what we want.
And granted, you know, you don't, you don't lose until if you're involved, if you have a mutual fund or own individual stocks, you don't lose it until you sell it.
You know what I mean?
It can always come back around.
And unless, unless you're trying to play the peak in valleys on the course, most, most investors don't want, suggest that you don't
do that most financials advice would suggest not doing that you don't lose it until you sell off but knowing that you know some of these these indexes are down you know pushing 20% Earl I don't know and I've specifically heard today as I was driving to the studio MSNBC running some some cuts of Donald Trump during the election Earl
Oh, on day one, we're going to lower prices on day one.
It's going to be a great economy on day one, day one, day one.
And of course it's long past day one and the Republicans continue to give this man cover for which is seemingly, as, as just mentioned, you know, throwing darts at a board, you raise us 50, we'll raise you 200.
Where do we go from there, Earl?
co-host during the week named Sandy Williams.
He's a guy who graduated cum laude from Harvard.
He is an economist, top economist, nationally renowned.
And Sandy used to always tell me, Dominic, over the last, I don't know, four or five years, I would say, hey, recessions coming.
And Sandy said, no, no, not going to be a recession.
And he would always say it.
And every time I would see, because I would always predicate recession on what I used to see as a young man, when I worked in the auto industry and we saw recession come and it meant
It's coming.
Yeah, man.
And, and Sandy has been a hundred percent.
He's been accurate, uh, Dominic, even in the face of others who were saying something different.
So, you know, say, I sent Sandy's advice is very sage and we're going to talk about it, uh, on tomorrow, but the recession is inevitable now.
And Joe Biden.
in his regime, did everything they could to hold off recession, hasn't been a recession since 2007.
But when you now, Dominic, bring the conversation of recession at a time with the instability of a man and his policies, the damage and because we're talking global, because he's, he's
His chain of events brought this down, dummy.
Yes.
Come on, man.
It's one thing to have a recession that happens, but this didn't have to happen.
Of course they're saying it but it makes zero sense if the president can Produce executive orders and do tariffs and and and have
people fired.
And those things immediately impact the marketplace.
Well, welcome.
It's now your administration.
This is now your economy.
Because he could do different things.
He could pull back.
He could walk back this threat.
These these discussions of tariffs.
Hell, Earl, he so very boldly and powerfully and proudly renegotiated NAFTA, right?
The USMCA and now
as we operate under his renegotiated USMCA, he has a huge problem with what he renegotiated with in the USMCA.
Well, Donald Trump has a problem with Donald Trump.
I don't know who else is going to fix that except for Donald Trump.
So we could go back to the negotiating table, go back and once again, renegotiate the USMCA.
If that's what you want to do, if that's your effort, why not just go do that?
Why play these games, uh, back and forth with Canada and Mexico now the EU that sets firing up.
Well, you know, uh, and, and this whole thought that this activity and we've heard his, his press secretary, Caroline Levitt tell us Earl lie to our faces that tariffs.
Earl, did you know tariffs are a tax cut?
This is Biden's fault and tariffs are a tax cut and there's nothing to see here, Earl.
This is what this administration is trying to sell to the American people who are very, very fully starting to realize that perhaps this isn't what they voted for.
You know, man, he really, you know, I'm hearing him say Joe Biden left us with a bad economy.
Hey, man, what are you talking about?
Man?
Some of us remember it was only it's only a couple months ago, right?
The most the best economy in the world in the world is what Joe Biden left.
Yes.
So Maga people called and say, well, you know, the inflation was nine percent.
No.
When Joe Biden left, it was down to three percent.
Well, you know, Joe Biden, well, maybe you guys forgot about COVID.
It was a global economy.
It was a global recession.
I mean, inflation and Joe Biden and the United States did a better job than any of the other nations.
We were headed in the right direction.
But what I'm so frightened about the most dominant is people who are going to be hurt by this.
All of us are going to be hurt by it.
But the people who voted for them, many rural people, the farmers and
Those people are going to get it the worst.
And those are the people who said Joe Biden hurt them and forgot about them.
They have to live with that now, Dominic.
That you know, they made they made the wrong choice
You know if the eye of Sauron, you know gives pays attention to you Maybe you don't want that attention.
Maybe you're better off under a guy like Joe Biden Folks you're listening to the Dom Salvia show just as hell my co-host for the day Earl Ingram gonna stick around for the entirety of the show We got just ps working hard on the board.
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We got some cut-ups of the Wisconsin Supreme Court candidate debate from last night.
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Earl, uh, right here in the state of Wisconsin, we have, uh, we had a debate last night.
We have an election coming up April 1st for a next, the next justice on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Uh, Brad Schimmel, Susan Crawford, going.
toe-to-toe last night, Earl.
We do have some of this on one of some of the highlights that we're going to play for our audience, Earl, but I just want to get your sense of how you think that went last night and what do you think is going to happen here in the next couple of weeks?
You know, I saw or I listened to Brad Schimel or AKA Elmer Fudd.
I heard him.
on conservative talk radio yesterday before the debate.
And he was all in on everything conservative.
You can't mistake me at being anything other than a shill for whatever the conservatives want and nonstop.
But what happened to Donald Trump in 2020 was not right.
And then when it was on television,
He was a change man.
Oh He's he's reasonable.
Oh, you can't hold me to the well, maybe other people didn't get this what I got to see or hear because I heard him on radio and Then on television.
He was a different guy.
I can tell you Dominic whenever I see you I don't care how wet where it is or how long it's in between Dominic is always the same guy
Whenever you see me I'm
you have to be leery Absolutely, and you don't want that kind of person as a Supreme Court Justice because you don't know he's a chameleon You don't know who he's well.
We do know who he's going to be But last night he tried to make it appear as though he was a moderate kind of guy and and balance and all those kind of things But I will say this man
Crawford was man, she was strong.
And man, it was so good to see.
I had her on several weeks ago and I didn't know her at the time.
And I didn't know she was a strong person and personality.
But last night she showed just how strong her personality she was.
Now she was up against a wimp.
So maybe that
It certainly does.
You know, you make a great point.
And I appreciate it.
I'll take it as a compliment.
I'll give you the same one back, man, as long as I've known you've been the same, same awesome human being that I met the first day.
And I think that consistency is something that goes to character, man, because, you know, you're not acting.
I'm not acting.
And for whether or not we're going to be speaking to what a conservative radio crowd, you know, the mega
crowd, you know, we're going to be the same or if we're talking to a television crowd, which of course would not be as partisan as right wing talk radio.
You know, it's the same, but not, to you point out, not Brad Schimmel.
Absolutely.
Now we know what he says on the recordings.
You know, we already know that he wants to be a support team for this administration.
We know what, based on his comments, what happened to Trump in 2020 was terrible when he lost
That's who Brad Schimmel is.
This is a guy, Brad Schimmel, who left those untested
rape kits.
We played some attorney general Josh call, uh, recently here from video of his, uh, observations when he was running against Brett Schumann.
Brett Schumann was a guy who, you know, spent thousands and thousands of dollars making up these.
Bunk stupid coins, K A E D kicking ass every day.
And Gabe Muckas, that's what he does.
He kicks ass every day.
If you ask him, I mean, if you got to sit there and tell people that you're kicking ass every day, maybe you're not really kicking ass every day.
Uh, but, but don't, don't, don't take my word for it.
We got one cut.
We'll start with this and we'll get some other ones.
Go cut one.
If you would please, um, Susan Crawford.
You know, I think a lot is at stake, the future of our state for our kids and our grandkids and the fundamental rights and freedoms of everyone in Wisconsin.
I've worked throughout my career to protect the rights of Wisconsinites and keep our community safe, first as a prosecutor at the Wisconsin Department of Justice, then as an attorney representing the rights of ordinary Wisconsinites in our courts, and now as a judge on the circuit court, where every day I make sure that I'm making common sense decisions, protecting the rights of the parties in front of me under our laws, and making sure that everyone gets their day in court.
be a fair impartial justice on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and to protect the rights of Wisconsinites from that statewide venue.
I think that is what this race is all about.
groundwork for this kind of activity from Brad Schimmel wanting to get himself elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court We'll let Brad Schimmel speak for himself on the other side plus more of that sound
I got Earl Ingram joining me today.
Jess is on the lines as well.
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We are highlighting the debate from last night Susan Crawford.
versus Scott Walker's lackey bread shimmo.
I mean, when you got to rely on your career on Scott Walker, man, you know what I mean?
It kind of says everything, but we did play and I want to, you know, do equal time ish here, the opening.
arguments.
We heard Susan Crawford, our rights are at stake.
I got into the race to be a fair and impartial justice.
And well, why did Brad Schimel get in the race so he can be a lackey for Trump just like he was for Scott Walker?
We didn't quite say that, but I'm wondering, Earl, how this compares to what you heard him say earlier in the day on right wing talk radio.
Let's hear what Brad Schimel had to say.
It's critical in our constitutional republic.
that the political branches do the politics.
The legislature makes the law.
The executive enforces it.
Sorry to do the high school civics, but I think some people need to know this.
The judiciary doesn't get involved in the politics.
The judiciary approaches cases objectively.
I do that every day in my courtroom.
When I put on the black robe, I'm like an umpire in baseball.
I'm not rooting for any team.
I am rooting for the law to prevail in that court.
I'm gonna look at the facts objectively.
You know, judges take a different oath than other public officials.
Because other public officials, just like judges and justices, we swear to uphold and defend the Constitution.
Judges have an added part where we swear that we will administer justice without regard to persons.
That doesn't mean we don't care about people.
What it means,
is that it doesn't matter who the person in front of us is.
Justice is blind.
Justice is no longer blind in Wisconsin Supreme Court.
That's what's at stake.
We have to restore objectivity.
It reminds me of like Leslie Nielsen for naked guns.
And the, you know, the crowd claps and he keeps doing it more and more and more than he's finally calling strikes before the ball is even pitched.
That is probably more of an apt description of Brad Schimel.
If you didn't know the guy Earl, it sounds like, wow, yeah, that, that's almost seems, seems logical, but we know him.
We know better than that.
Don't we, Earl?
White man speak with fork tongue.
So here he is, you know, yesterday on conservative squad radio.
He's talking about the fact.
George Soros, she's taking money from George Soros.
George Soros, the guy who wants to defund the police.
And it's just the fact we can't have anybody on the Supreme Court who wants to defund the police.
And I'm like, man, come on with that, man.
This is what he was saying before.
That was even the debate, Dominic, but that didn't surprise me because that's always, he's always talked like that,
man.
All right, another, another couple of cuts here from the debate last night.
The question.
The question I want to say the question you both recently put out attack ads on the other candidate for being quote-unquote soft on crime as The as the court doesn't deal with matters on common crime Why have you made such a prominent part of your campaign and earlier talked recently the other day I talked with Angela Lang about this as well and you know, this is
you know, as these ads are rolled out, you know, it makes it seem like all these, these justices on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, they're going to, you know, decide the guilt or innocence of someone.
That's not, that's not what they do.
That's not the thing they do.
So let's hear, let's hear what Susan Crawford had to say on that place.
And I worked as a statewide prosecutor at the Wisconsin Department of Justice, taking cases all the way to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and making sure that our communities were safe.
I'm proud of the work that I did as a prosecutor and proud of the work that I did later representing Wisconsinites in our courtrooms, protecting their health care rights, protecting their voting rights, and protecting their rights in the workplace.
I don't shy away from that record.
I am proud of the work that I've done.
And I think it is important for voters to know about Brad Schimel's record too.
He's the one who as attorney general, because he was pursuing other partisan right wing lawsuits like trying to take health care away from people, left over 6,000 sexual assault kits.
The kits that may contain the DNA that can identify the perpetrators of those crimes, he failed to get them tested for years.
And in a period of over two years, he only got nine kids out of 6,000 tested.
And then he lied about it.
He told the press that he had had hundreds of kids tested.
That was wrong.
Earlier, he'd said, oh, there is no backlog.
And indeed, there was a backlog.
So I think it's important for the voters to understand not only that Brad Schimmel failed to take care of that top public safety priority, left those victims who were mainly women and children.
in waiting for years while he pursued things like trying to overturn the legal protections that people have when they have pre-existing health conditions to not allow health insurance executives to take away their cover.
It's kind of, you know, it's been a while since, since, and I'm so glad that she brought it up, but I'm glad that attorney general Josh call reminded us of all of this recently.
Uh, he was Brett Schimel is too busy doing other things, right?
He was too, is he the one who hired Misha Tetzlin?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, they, they, they went after, uh, the, the affordable character.
They, they, they prioritized issues other than the rape kits.
And I, I'm not surprised.
And I knew it.
No doubt.
We knew it was going to come up.
Um, but, and I, and I, as I read through some of the reporting, one of the things I saw from Bredsham was very, very, very, very first ad, the very first ad, 4,000 rape kids tested.
You knew he got out of me.
You knew he, this was going to be an issue trying to get in front of it.
And maybe eventually you got there, man, but your priority, it wasn't that at the time.
And this is the most basic job of an attorney general.
Earl, he failed.
And as Susan Crawford points out,
He lied about it afterward.
Man, you know what's so frightening to me about all of this is, you know, you hear people say that I voted for Donald Trump, I made a mistake.
Sometimes, I mean, not Maggie people, but others who did, right?
And then you turn around and you look at this race and it's a dead heat.
And you say,
Didn't the people learn any?
Why would you look, man, the Republicans had control over the state Supreme Court for over 10 years.
We saw what they did with that, Dominic.
It's only been what?
A year since since Democrats wound up.
Maybe what?
Yeah.
I mean that that was if there's a huge consequence to a conservative supreme court, uh, it's they will once again gerrymander.
They'll find it.
It's totally fine.
It's fine.
If you do it, no worries, no big deal.
And then they'll try to, you know, bake in the cake another 10 years of Republican rule here in the state of Wisconsin, which we can't take.
We can't afford it.
No, man.
That is not okay.
That is not representative.
And these are the kind of games that the Republicans
playing and if you challenge it and it was eventually overturned was pro to say what's gotten there it was obvious ma'am it went up to the Supreme Court they just didn't have a formula to determine how bad of a political gerrymandering is too bad of a political gerrymandering well it's that's not the right answer so they kick it back and now we know so we finally rectified that and we go back to Brad Schimel getting in there man they will try to do that again guaranteed they do not want and they cannot have
Equal representation they will lose and
yeah,
Tony,
some of this.
Yeah,
You know, Brett Schimel has given dozens of people convicted of crimes like domestic violence, sexual assaults, and abuse of children.
Short jail sentences are no jail sentences, and those offenders have gone on to re-offend.
I'll stand by the cases.
They have focused between him and Elon Musk.
They have focused on two cases out of thousands that I've handled, where I sentenced people to prison and then followed that with several years of extended
supervision.
Those two people are still on supervision.
They have not committed any new crimes and they will be on the sex offender registry for the rest of their lives.
So I think that voters need to focus on Brad Schimmel's record.
He is somebody who has blamed victims said things like with child sexual assaults that the child was responsible because she went to a party or it was it is not a lie.
It was a it was a first date situation.
He has let people go and they have reoffended.
That has not happened in the cases that they're highlighting of mine.
If I can also just respond to his claim that I wasn't a prosecutor.
I was a statewide prosecutor at the Wisconsin Department of Justice.
I handled both county-level prosecutions of health care fraud and patient abuse, and I also took cases to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Those are cases that are the most relevant for service on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Cases that involve the development of the law and the kinds of legal arguments that you have to consider when you're making decisions that are going to involve statewide precedent that every prosecutor in the county, in the state,
there will be bound by.
It is the reason why Mandela Barnes is not a senator today.
United States senator.
They use the same tactics that they that they're using against you know, Judge Crawford that they use on Mandela Barnes.
You know, she she's she's not tough on crime.
She's allowing I mean you just watch this stuff over and over and then and then when she pointed out what he did and the and you turn and it turns out
He's a guy who assaults us.
Come
on, man.
a
He wants to be there.
They need a support group.
And what did Donald Trump do?
He pardoned all the J6 insurrectionist man that were beating the hell out of cops, bare sprain, beating them with American flags and spears and clubs and their fists and throwing bottles and fire extinguishers.
Oh, for Donald Trump and apparently Brad Schummel, fine with all that.
They could be pardoned.
You know, this isn't his preview, but I'm tough on crime.
Don't be tough on the Dom South Show.
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Just a little bit more from the highlights of last night's Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice debate.
And welcome back to the dom salvia show eight five five seven five two four eight four two just PS working the board Earl Ingram co-hosting with me today you folks line up eight five five seven five two four eight four two We have just a couple more clips.
I want to play from the Wisconsin Supreme Court debate last night, but
Jess, we have this from, you know, a few days ago.
please, Jess.
Absolutely.
Donald Trump doesn't do this by himself.
There has to be a support network around him and that you know, they filed over 70 lawsuits against him Since he took the oath of office barely a month ago Over 70 lawsuits to try to stop almost every single thing he's doing because they don't want him to get a win They're so desperate for him to not get a win that they won't let America have a win
And the only way we're going to stop that is if the courts stop it.
That's the only place to stop this lawfare.
It kind of contradicts what he said.
uh, last night at the debate and I would just digress Earl.
Perhaps there wouldn't be all these lawsuits filed against the president.
Uh, if he didn't have, you know, put out these unconstitutional executive orders and instead actually did things through the legislature, which you're supposed to do, but he wants to push the envelope.
Well, what do you think is going to happen?
They're going to push back as well.
They should, uh, your thoughts on the, uh, apparent hypocrisy of this man, Earl.
Republicans always talking about Donald Trump getting the win.
What is this major league baseball?
What do you mean getting the win?
What does that mean, Dominic?
To you.
I mean, this is bigger than that foolishness.
These are people's lives, man, and decisions that they are making, impacting families long term, putting people out of work.
Hurting families man doing things that are destabilizing the world and he's talking about Donald Trump getting to win
Hey, he's the Suprizes.
He's a supreme.
He would be a supreme court justice He's not supposed to be talking about the president of the United States getting a win man Right.
I mean why that shouldn't be its focus
whatsoever.
I haven't heard one Democratic State Supreme Court justice.
Talk about Joe Biden getting the win.
could interpret, even if you can read between the lines, you know what, they're not, they're not verbally like out there, like just like Donald Trump, Brad Shimmel is telling you who he is.
Yes.
He's telling you.
And if, and to your point that.
this whole wind mentality, whatever the hell that means.
If it if it if a win for this president means the tearing down of Medicare Medicaid Social Security You know these these institutions that we have dedicated ourselves to so we don't have you know old women and young children Starved in the streets so we can pay for tax cuts for billionaires if that's the win I don't want them to get a win All right one final question can you provide examples of a case where you decided something that you're supporting?
wouldn't like or that angered them.
Let's start with Mr Brad Schimel.
Have you ever done that Brad?
Judge Schimel, give me an example that as a time as a judge, you made a decision that angered your supporters.
I don't recall.
I recall people.
I'm sorry.
I don't have an example of a case that angered supporters.
So I had a lawsuit before me in the circuit court in which the current attorney general was trying to throw, get laws thrown out that were enacted in the lame duck period after Brad Schimmel lost
election re-election as Attorney General and Governor Scott Walker lost re-election as Attorney General.
Between them and then and their leaving office they enacted laws that stripped the Attorney General of many of the Attorney General's powers and authority and a lawsuit was brought into my court that challenged several of those changes and I rejected most of them.
I did issue a narrow ruling that
that found that a part of those changes were unconstitutional, but the rest of them I threw out.
They went through and tried to strip power from Evers and the AG, and she had this in front.
If you were to believe that she's in the pocket of George Soros and is all going to do anything that all the lefties want, well, she certainly would not have ruled that way, Earl.
with her.
She'll make a strong, strong justice.
You pair her with the other strong women who don't have to back.
You know, can you imagine if Scott Walker was the governor with those women as the Supreme Court justices?
You know, knowing how weak he was.