Bill Lueders, president of Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council, joins us to explain the loophole that allows lawmakers to delete records that should be accessible via open records requests. We also talk to Sara Shaw, the deputy research director at Wisconsin Policy Forum, about a study on how Wisconsin is funding its childcare and what it could do.

Gambling has been a big topic lately, this time it comes up after a journalist was threatened by gamblers after he reported a bombing. We close the show on a light note as Brewer fans prepare to head down a stretch of I-94 that is riddled with construction.

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