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We begin with Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
They talked to fishery specialist Titus Sealheimer from Wisconsin Sea Grant to talk about an evasive carp species and how it could negatively impact the Great Lakes.
He also tells us about the efforts to keep the species from entering the
lakes.
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Now President Trump has said he's working to save the Great Lakes from invasive carp But his administration is holding up money for a billion dollar project to keep them at bay He posted on true social last week that he was working with Democratic Mission Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer to quote save the Great Lakes from the rather violent and destructive Asian carp He also said he was going to ask governors of Great Lakes states to join the fight.
Well, that all sounds great
But the reality doesn't match the message.
So what is happening with funding and how big an issue are the Asian carp?
We're joined by Titus Seilheimer.
He is the fisheries outreach specialist at Wisconsin Sea Grant.
And we're going to find that out.
Titus, thanks for being here.
This is something I haven't, I haven't heard about these Asian carp in a while.
For a, for a while, they were big news all the time for people outside of your industry.
So for those who aren't familiar.
how big an issue are these invasive carp and why are they such a problem?
Yeah, great question.
They are one of the many invasive species that we're worried about getting into the Great Lakes and they've been in North America for about 50 years and they were brought in originally to
they were kind of used for aquaculture in the south on fish farms or kind of wastewater treatment, but then they escaped into the Mississippi River system.
And so they have been kind of slowly over that time moving north and approaching the Great Lakes.
So the Illinois River especially, and then through the Chicago area waterway system, the canals there that connect Lake Michigan to
the the Mississippi River system.
That's kind of this pinch point that we're mostly talking about.
I mean, it is definitely, I think, you know, in two ways, like it is definitely a big threat.
Like anytime a new invasive species gets into the Great Lakes like that.
you know basically resets kind of what we know and I'm I'm actually in Michigan right now at a Great Lakes meeting you know hearing about Lake Michigan all day yesterday and all five Great Lakes and so you know like we know what we know right now but if you bring in these new species which are
you know, the big head carp, the silver carp especially, are these filter feeders.
So they could, you know, really change the food webs in the Great Lakes, you know, especially places like Green Bay, Saginaw Bay, Lake Urie, where it's, you know, there's a lot of nutrient loading, a lot of food for them.
But then even like the harbors and the rivers of the Great Lakes, like that could be a new species that really shifts things and means that we have to kind of figure out
you know, what is going on now?
Like how do things work?
So keeping them out is definitely it is, you know, sort of the most effective way to, you know, protect the Great Lakes rather than try to deal with them later.
I know basically it means species that weren't in an environment and then are introduced, but what is the damage that invasive species really can cause to, like you said, if they get into the Great Lakes or these harbors where they haven't been before?
Yeah, so I mean and actually like invasive is like it's there's this continuum of Species, so we have you know the the non-native species So, you know that came from somewhere else in the Great Lakes a lot of those like a lot of our top species that we worry about zebra mussels quagga mussels round gobies
They came into the Great Lakes in the ballast water tanks of ships, but then there's also, you know, so they came from Europe, kind of the Eurasian area in these ballast tanks when the St.
Lawrence Seaway opened up.
But, you know, they're, and they can, you know, so they're non-native.
We've got about 190 non-native species in the Great Lakes now.
Not all of them are what we would call invasive or have big noticeable impact.
So even then, you can have a species that's new.
But if you don't see the impacts, it's not always... You might not consider it invasive then.
It's just sort of a non-native species.
He is the fisheries outreach specialist at Wisconsin Sea Grant.
Now, Brian had mentioned that the federal government has paused funding, even though that money was already approved.
So what kind of impact is this going to have?
How is this going to delay things, I guess would be the question.
Yeah.
So the funding specifically is for what's called, it's the Brandon Road.
uh, lock and dam project.
So this is within the the Illinois or the Chicago area waterway system and it's so there's this big, you know, this is part of a big plan.
I think the the money we're talking about is like 200 some million out of a like a three stage billion dollar project.
So it's a it's a big project, but
What they're going to do is upgrade this lock and dam.
So that these are where the barges that can go from the Mississippi River into the Great Lakes that they use.
And they're going to put a lot of they're going to upgrade them.
So they have an electrical barrier.
They're going to have a bubble curtain.
They're going to have sound.
They're going to be able to flush out species when the
the barges go through so it's it is really kind of upgrading the system to prevent carp but also other species from moving from the the Mississippi River system into the Great Lakes so you know it's it's been you know this is kind of the main the highest risk point for species moving into the Great Lakes from the Mississippi River so
It's definitely, I think, an important step forward in preventing new species, you know, carp and other species in the future.
And it seems like, like I said, this is a story that's been going on for well over 10 years.
It seems like they're moving kind of slow.
We hear that these carp are invasive.
They really seem to be taking their time.
How long a process is it for them to make their way up?
to this choke point.
And then once they get to the choke point, what are they encountering?
Yeah.
So, you know, I think in part of this, you know, maybe we haven't heard about it as much in the last, you know, in the recent years is because they have kind of slowed down.
So they, you know, it was kind of this, you know, this, I don't know, I don't want to use, you know,
I guess March, you know, it's this March North from where they started and I think Arkansas and they're, yeah, you know, moving upstream and, you know, coming up, you know, fairly quickly through the Illinois River system and really, you know, some of the impacts to the rivers are just that they're so abundant now and they kind of, you know, it's all carp in some of these areas, but they've actually kind of paused like they got to a certain point in the Illinois River.
system which is actually downstream of this Brandon Road lock and dam and they've they've kind of you know, haven't really moved upstream that much in advanced in you know, it's it's something like 20 years now so it has kind of slowed which I think is a good thing it gives us time to you know, get this project in place and you know, it's kind of nice they're cooperating with us and the you know the the
time it takes for some of these massive Army Corps of Engineers projects to finish.
Then just upstream of this Brandon Roadlock and dam is the electrical barrier, which you've heard about over the years, and that's been in place for quite a while.
You know this electrical barrier that keeps the fish from swimming up towards the lake They get stunned and then they would just kind of float back downstream So it's not like we're totally on you know, there there aren't any defenses, but this would add another level to that
Yeah, you know I think you know carp in the Great Lakes is a it's a big question like I think there's a lot of uncertainty there You know be if you're you know if you're following the other Great Lakes stories things like the the kind of decline of Lake Whitefish especially in the main part of Lake Michigan
you know that is being driven by other invasive species like the quagga mussels and You know kind of the interesting thing about these carp like they can get to a hundred pounds like they're fish
But they're just they're just swimming along, you know filter feeding like they're eating the littlest stuff They're eating algae and plankton, but they can get really big and you know So in one sense some of their their easiest food isn't you know quite available because of the mussels, but you know, I think it's definitely the
You know, they they would be feeding and they would be growing and if they You know would probably you know go to places that have more food availability like Green Bay the Fox River Harbors rivers, you know on the Wisconsin side, especially like that's kind of where we have There's probably a lot more food for them.
So it could really change
I think how people enjoy rivers in the lakes, but can also shift some of the food web stuff and impact the desirable fish species that we want to see.
any other purpose?
Yeah, I mean like you know interest like in in Asia where they're you know, they're actually farmed there They're a highly desirable food fish over there and kind of the backbone I guess if they're fish farming in some places and you know here I think you know for us like we hear carp and we're like, oh You know, yeah, like I you know, you hear carp you think common carp you think you know this bottom feeding fish that's full of contaminants and maybe you don't want to eat it but
You know, these are because they're filter feeding.
They actually grow really fast.
They they have a much like they have low contaminants and I guess the you know as a food like I've had I think silver carp tacos one time and it was you know, you've seen the season the meat.
It's really good.
And you know, so people are you know, there is kind of an interest in marketing them as a food fish.
Kopi is the the new name COPI.
So if you see
Yeah, if you see Kopey on the menu, you're eating one of these invasive carp, so.
Fighting the power, doing your bit to save
That's right.
Yeah, I mean, I think the basic steps that we all do as boaters and anglers, you know,
don't move water from one place to another.
You know, drain your boat, clean your, you know, even your canoe or your kayak, clean it off because there could be stuff in there.
You know, don't dump your bait bucket because they've actually found, you know, some of these little carp in with bait.
So,
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New data shows that voters are realigning where their priorities lay.
Is it property taxes or school funding?
As the property taxes continually increase and the economy puts more strain on homeowners,
That priority is shaking.
Fairly solid, better than expected.
It's Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
Tell us at 855-75-CIVIC-855-7524842.
What concerns you more?
property taxes in wisconsin or school funding and why uh the reason we ask you that is because according to a february poll by the marquette university law school wisconsin voters attitudes toward property taxes in public schools uh public school funding
are shifting with most saying they're more concerned about reducing their property tax bills than sending money to local schools when given the choice.
This concern is the highest recorded in more than a decade and it makes sense because once you get to a certain point in your life if you don't have kids in school anymore or you've never had children or whatever the reason
but you see you have a home you're lucky enough to own your house and your taxes keep going up and up that's your main concern and it is not selfish for people to say hey i you know i'm all for kids getting an education but man my taxes are
killing me.
you
know, their property taxes are going to go up and they're going to have to offset that at some point.
So it's not just homeowners.
It's also if you're a renter, you're also going to end up paying more, which is why we start seeing some of these astronomical rental prices throughout the state of Wisconsin, right?
But
It's interesting because in the same poll, 57% of people said that they would be inclined to vote against a referendum to increase taxes for local schools.
43% said they would vote to pass a referendum.
This is gonna be interesting because coming up on this April 7th election, and by the way, early voting starts today if you wanna cast your vote for that April 7th election.
But there are...
Oh, there are, I believe, and I've gotta check my facts on this, but off the top of my head, I believe there are 70 schools this year in the state of Wisconsin and this election that are gonna have referendums on the ballot in some way, shape, or form so that they can have proper funding for whether it's their operational costs or whether it's for maintenance of the school or adding things that they need to the facility itself.
this concern over property tax levels comes at a time when people are being hammered right now, right?
I
mean, we're
We've got the tariffs, the higher home values, now the rising gas prices, the uncertainty with all goods as they have to travel from parts of the country through a war-torn area and a strait that isn't opening no matter what the president says.
So, I mean, this comes, I think, at a very tumultuous time for a lot of people when
people are already being forced to really decide, is it worth even owning a home?
Can I even own a home?
We talked about it the other day that the average home ownership has gone up from 30 years old for the first time buyer to 40 years old for a first time buyer.
So it's tougher and tougher to do that.
And while
In theory, everybody I think is for education being funded, the problem does become a very personal one.
And if I'm faced with the choice, you know, my daughter is not a school, she's grown.
And while we'd went to public school and we chose to live in a place that had very high property taxes so that she could go to good public schools, the minute she was done, we left.
we we left to move and move to a place that did not we didn't have to pay those exorbitant taxes and I would be I would be hard-pressed now to move back to a place where my taxes kept going up to fun schools not because I don't value it but because my bottom line has gone has changed so drastically and I think that's what a lot of people they come to that point and it's almost the lesser of two evils right well
Am I going to am I gonna not am I will I vote against this referendum and know that something is going to suffer at schools?
And I know we were just talking about Green Bay having to cut possibly some fine arts programs Knowing that or saying well, then I'd have to move because I can't afford my taxes here.
I mean and let's be realistic Most people even if you live in a community even if you don't have as kids in the school district You want kids to have good schools, right?
That you do but
Property taxes in Wisconsin are already among the highest in the country.
In fact, we're in the top 15 for how much we play in property taxes throughout the state.
So for a lot of families and for a lot of individuals, it's just not feasible.
And I think that's where those tough choices literally come in because we know that the schools have to rely heavily on those property taxes because of how the system set up.
So when that state funding is falling short or isn't predictable,
the districts are forced to go to voters who just can't fathom doing this anymore or seeing those increases in their monthly bill.
And let's
also
And I know the negotiations are still ongoing between the Republicans and the Democrats on how to use that surplus.
They had the opportunity to alleviate some of this and they chose to gavel out instead of making it easier for homeowners or giving them some sort of relief on their property tax bill.
You can't keep going back to the same well.
And sooner or later, people will start to leave.
Then the people who are here are going to have to bear even more of a burden.
There has to be a better way.
You mentioned it, the legislature is not doing what they're supposed to do.
We've got all of this extra money.
Some of it needs to go to tax relief because people are getting tired.
Once people get tired enough they decide they're gonna go somewhere else
where they're
And by the way, in that same Marquette poll, voters picked property tax levels as their chief concern when given the choice since 2022, and that number just keeps growing over time.
It tells you that we have a serious problem in this state.
And right now, I don't see anybody really doing much to alleviate it for anybody, either side of the aisle.
It's 829 right now.
You are listening to Daybreak.
My name is Jamie Martenson.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
Joining me as always is Greg Bach and Dom Lee holding down the fort in Madison working the board producing the show We've got a great one tonight folks Martin Alvarado from the Madison Public Library will be here in our two giving book recommendations We're gonna read your texts for our question of the night, which is who is the most annoying voice in sports?
Text line is ringing.
Does it ring?
I don't know off the hook.
We'll read those after the top of the hour But right now I'm very excited
to welcome our first guest of the night.
He is a fan favorite and one of my favorites here at Nightlight, and he joins us over the stream from northeast Wisconsin, the legendary Mr. Frank Hermans.
Hey, buddy.
Buddy, I'm telling you, any Frank is better than no Frank.
And I love your website because I think I've told you this before.
I was looking at your upcoming shows and there's a moment where you run the cursor over some icon and it's your laugh going, ha ha.
You scared the living daylights out of me today.
I was not expecting that, but I love it.
It's kind of a funny story 15 years ago when I redid the website.
That's been a long time.
I need to do it.
But the young lady who was helping me from PMI goes, God prank, we need to put your laugh in there.
I go, OK, I recorded it on her phone one time.
And that was it.
If you're not expecting it though, and you have your computer turns up, it can make you go a couple feet in the air, really freak me out today.
It's great to have you, buddy.
So let's start, let's do an icebreaker.
Do you have a sports person or someone in that world, Frank, whose voice really annoys you, whether it's what they say or the way they say it or their actual voice?
Man, if he was from Northeast Wisconsin, Frank, you'd have your next show there.
That was pretty good.
you
just, you should just do that as an impression.
I
It sounds like a Looney Tunes character.
Yeah.
throw in plugs for a planet fitness Oberto beef and Hooters too while you're at it.
That's
Yeah.
He's
that check.
He's cashing that check, baby.
Baby,
He's a caricature of himself now.
So let's start off, Frank, with your new show.
I love the title.
You have such great... Well, I just want you to tell people about it because it's so funny.
And it's a little heartfelt, too, because I missed the institution you're writing about.
Tell us about Hello, Shopco.
Hello, shop.
Go say hello to a goodbye.
Their tagline was, they had many taglines, but at the end it was say hello to a goodbye, but I spell it B Y E.
Of course, Shopco stores, that was our local mall in Wisconsin, 139 stores at one time all the way out to Nebraska, 26 states.
They started business in 1961 and in 2019, they closed 139 stores due to bankruptcy.
They kept the Shopco optical stores going, but you know, my memories are of the Shopco lady.
In fact, Karen McDermott did a couple of shows with her at St.
Norbert College back in the day.
that we have a character in the show who is the shopco lady.
We don't necessarily say it's Karen, but they're called the shopco lady.
And one of the things I did with this show is it's about a true story that really happened at shopco store number four, Green Bay East on Main Street.
I'll divulge that story a little bit, but one thing that we did with this show is it's like a Seinfeld episode.
So I played Jerry and I talked like Jerry and then we got...
We got, you know, we got Kramer's in the show, Elaine's in the show.
So we do all the funny bits from Seinfeld based around shop-toe store experience.
That's great.
It's funny Frank.
Did you bring that up that the show is based on that because I watched a video the other day talking about the rise and fall actually two of them one about the rise and fall of Kmart and the other about the rise and fall of Sears and it's weird because I can remember when shop go Kmart and Sears were everywhere and then one day they're just like, yeah, we're out of business now.
Goodbye.
Everyone pack it on up.
Everything's on sale.
Goodbye.
Done.
Well,
It's funny you say that because, you know, really the pandemic, you know, really screwed retail and shop closed its doors before the pandemic, which is ironic.
Yeah.
And everybody else, hey, I just found this out, guys.
There is one Kmart left and it's in Hawaii.
I just, hey, there is one Kmart left.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
And one of the things we do make fun of is, you know, in fact, it's an old joke.
Macy makes fun of people who shop at Target.
Target makes fun of people who shop at Shopco.
Shopco makes fun of people who work at Fleet Farm.
Fleet Farm makes fun of people who work who shop at the dollar store.
Who does the dollar store make fun of?
Goodwill?
I remember.
In Marinette at the dollar store like five years ago, I swear to God, I have this picture somewhere.
Stakes, $2.
Oh, no.
I've been paying like $3 for my stakes, like a sucker for the last 10 years.
So was, you know, I love where you come up with your ideas.
They're so local and you really get people invested in the shows.
And I want to say this, for those of you
who, first of all, if you've never been to the Meyer Theater in Green Bay, it is a very special place.
It's just this beautiful thing that this beautiful theater right in downtown Green Bay, that's where most of Frank's shows are.
And if you want a road trip, it's worth it because I went to Frank's Christmas show two years ago, brought the wife and kids, it was the perfect.
Frank, that was so magical because it was like the Meyer Theater is the perfect place to have a Christmas show.
It's a great theater.
The show is great.
I highly recommend, even if you know Schopko or just want a good laugh, it's worth a road trip to Green Bay.
And you know, it's funny that you talked about the Meyer Theater built in 1930, opened up on Valentine's Day.
And then, you know, in 1980, it became a triplex.
Theater and then it closed down for 10 years and the pipes were bursting and and the Meyer Foundation came in put 12 million dollars in the place They ripped all the plaster off the walls They found out that it was an old Mediterranean style look and they kept that with the gold You know embossing everywhere and it was Fox Theater built in 1930.
Isn't that crazy?
Oh my goodness.
Oh, that's that sounds like a gorgeous gorgeous place.
There's nothing like
old theaters like when you know when you're in Milwaukee you go to the Papst or the Riverside or the High Life Theater now it's called the High Life Theater but you just walk in you can feel the history and you're like I'm gonna go see this band tonight but who was playing it a hundred years ago because there was someone like vaudeville was playing here a hundred years ago it's beautiful it's like an old church
yeah exactly exactly it's funny you say that because on that stage at the Meyer Theater they they had Johnny Cash back in the day they had
it did vaudeville yes they did uh they had the troops coming through but then you know the depression hit and it closed down again in 1933 and and and it had to reopen again from community you know green bay you know the community seems to come with money you know for the Packers or for a theater you know and they they kept this thing alive we're one of the lucky ones we've been at the Meyer theater now eight or no 20 years oh my goodness like wow we're the main tenant we do 80 shows a year there and we produce
and write five original comedy musicals, jukebox musicals.
Like this show, shop goes based in the 70s, early 80s, so it's all great songs from David Bowie, from Diana Ross.
What's that song we do?
Tom Sings.
What's that song called?
By McKinsey.
And anyway, my wife's in the room.
I'm trying to get some
information.
Also the star of the show and a very talented Amy.
Honey, I'm cooking up these two dollar stakes.
What do you want me to
do right
now?
Our guest is Frank Herman.
He is a Green Bay theater legend He writes original stuff and performs them at the Meyer Theater definitely worth checking out
Frank, you have another show coming up in May.
I wanted to ask you about because ever since I learned about the existence of this event that happened in the 60s, Sputnik, I've been fascinated by it.
Part of the Soviet space, whatever, crashed right outside an art museum in Manitowoc.
They have Sputnik Fest every year.
It's a blast.
Tell us about the Sputnik landing in Manitowoc and what you did with that.
And I actually wrote this show during COVID and we were supposed to premiere it in Manitowoc and got shut down.
So we did it to a sparse crowd at the Meyer Theater and thought I'd bring it back.
It's the true unabridged fictional story of Sputnik.
So in 1966, 13 pounds of the first satellite, Sputnik, fell on 8th Street in Manitowoc and two policemen noticed that
They noticed the small explosion and that the road was hot.
And they're like, what is this?
And there's actually a spot on the road they have marked on A Street.
This is where Sputnik fell.
Well, it was a huge, huge news story.
It was national headlines.
The Russians wanted it back, but it was just a pile of sludge.
The actual piece of Sputnik is in Chicago, I believe, at the Art Museum, and they made a recreation of it that's on display at the Rars Museum in Manitowoc.
So I wrote a fictional story, and I got all the great characters.
JFK plays the mayor of Manitowoc.
He's not John F. Kennedy, but he has that accent, and then we have Marilyn Monroe as one of the characters, and then the two police officers.
Remember that police show
Herman Munster was in the show, Fred Gwynne.
Car 54,
where are you?
So my two police characters are those guys.
And it just talks about the life in times.
And then Boris and Natasha Fatal from Bullwinkle are in the show.
And they come to get the Sputnik back because there's a secret in there that the mother country wants back.
It's just a hilarious show with great music from the 50s and 60s.
That sounds amazing.
That sounds so much fun.
Yeah.
I'm
sorry, Greg.
OK, so if you want to see the Sputnik show, Sputnik the Musical in Maniloc, that's May 14th.
Shopco, say hello to a goodbye at the Meyer Theater April 9th through the 26th.
You've got those shows.
I have to ask you, Frank, we have to do a break.
And then we'll I want to ask you about another show after a quick break.
But right now I texted you this a couple of weeks ago.
Have you seen Epic yet the Elvis movie?
you see it i did and i i would say if you can if you can find a theater that still has it
And I told Greg this recently, I never understood.
Like, I know he's Elvis, he's iconic, and he's just this legendary guy.
And I love when you sing his songs.
And I like his songs a lot, but I never really understood why he was so great until I saw this movie.
Because it's just him performing with his band and his backup singers.
And you really see what a talented musician he is and what a performer he is.
The guy just does not stop moving.
I would love to talk to you after you see it, but we're gonna do a very short break.
Frank Kermans is here, folks.
His show, Say Hello to a Goodbye, about the closing of the shop-go store is kind of sad, but as Frank always does, it'll be hilarious and great music.
That's at the Meyer Theater, April 9th through the 26th.
We'll talk to Frank about a few more things coming up after this very short break.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.
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Well done Tom.
Hey, welcome back to nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabba sitting across the state for me is Greg Bach who is You're not playing the drums Greg.
I always worry when you're not drumming that some some things a minute.
There we go.
Okay.
He's good Frank Hermans is with us folks.
He is the legendary Frank Hermans founder of let me be Frank productions
and a very prolific playwright and performer and great singer.
He joins us periodically here on Nightlight.
If you listen, you know that he is with us via the stream from Northeast Wisconsin.
We were talking about his show that opens April 14th called Say Hello to a Good Buy.
It's from April 9th through the 26th at the Meyer.
It's gonna be a great show.
Frankie told us during the break that that's based on a true story.
Nintendos were really hot.
And back then there was no cameras or security in the shopco store.
So what these kids did is they hid in the clothing racks.
And when the shopco locked up, they stole or.
They took all the Nintendo's, okay?
They took that night, they took all the Nintendo's from the store when they got there, they were all gone.
And the only reason why they got caught is they sold them to their friends for $75, because they were 150 bucks at the time.
Yes, they were,
Yup, and the kid, the mom comes in to his room and says, hey, we can't afford that, where'd you get that?
Well, he knocked the kid out and they got busted.
I'm not naming names, but this is a true story to happen at Green Bay East.
1982, they stole all the Nintendo's, but they were busted and did some juvie.
Whoa.
I remember when I was a kid, like, oh, he went to juvie.
Oh, wow.
What did he do?
Stole Nintendo's.
What is the statute of limitations on stealing video games?
You're probably, but if you already did the time, I guess, that's, I mean, yes.
day.
Oh my goodness.
That sounds absolutely amazing.
They stayed in until, that is gutsy to me.
That's not just saying like on a Saturday night, let's do, that's planning.
That's a heist.
That's a heist.
Premeditated, yeah.
If you remember in SHOPCO, they had the circular racks with the clothes around and you could, actually my wife remembers hiding in between those racks.
and mine couldn't find her.
So it's a true that they did this and nobody noticed them and there was no, the only security system they had at SHOPCO was they would say, Mr. Roberts, that meant loss prevention, that something was feeling something.
There was no, you know, it was a prime time to steal back then.
I missed my window, dammit.
Man, I was such a good kid back then.
I was just hiding in those clothes, waiting for my mom to find me.
And then you heard those words, Willa Gregory Bach, please come to the front.
Your mother is waiting.
You're like, oh, I'm in trouble now.
I was trying to be whimsical.
Yes.
Frank, before we let you go, you've got another show.
I love when you do the Elvis Reba and you're kind of tribute to these famous great singers.
You did it in Marinette twice in the last year, which was fantastic.
You're performing, I love the name of this, Meets Opera House.
Where is that?
Nazion was the home of JFK Prep and the most prolific basketball scorer in Wisconsin state history.
Steve Crowley played there in the 80s, close to 1982, but this hall is still there.
And I was just
dropping off a poster, driving through Valder's.
I thought, let's go through St.
Nazion.
And the mom of the owner is the season ticket holder.
And I said, she said, you want to see her haul?
I said, I walked back.
It fits about 250.
We walked back.
I go, hey, we should do a show here.
And well, we did Elvis and Reba two weeks ago, and now we're coming back May 8th.
I'm actually bringing Neil Diamond along in George Jones.
And yeah, we're doing a show.
All right, that's May 8th.
You got tons of chances to see Frank and his band of all-stars May 8th at Meets Opera House in St.
How do you say that again?
Naseous Okay, Naseous and then you got
the spelling of that town is off-putting at best.
Yeah Hello shop.
Go say goodbye to a good
to a goodbye is at the Meyer Theater, April 9th through the 26th.
And then you've got Sputnik the Musical, and you're performing that in Manitowoc, which is fun, on May 14th.
We're actually gonna perform that at the Meyer Theater, but in the small backstage, it's dinner theater.
We're going back to our roots, how we started dinner theater back in 2000 at the sports corner in the SC Grand Festival.
intimate show.
We can only hit 150 folks tonight.
There's six shows.
It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, and then Sunday matinee.
Dinner, and a show, and Sputnik right in your face.
Oh my God, I love it.
Dude, you are the best.
Thank you so much for being with us on the stream tonight.
Now you can say whatever you want to, Amy, once you're off the air.
We hope things are well and good on the home front.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
Well, say goodbye to, or say hello to every, I'm getting your titles mixed up.
Say hello to everyone in the family and with, uh, let me be Frank productions.
Always a blast, pal.
Uh, come back anytime.
You too, man.
Take it easy.
Have a great
Oh, that was far.
All right.
Well, before we get out of here, that was amazing.
He's got to come back and I want to, I want him to talk about his history because I feel like that, like that is an amazing lineup to so many shows.
And as you said, they just sell out.
Like people are just enjoying them so much.
Uh, well, yeah, I can't wait to have him back.
But before we get out of here, we're going to take a really quick moment to get some snacks, get some hydration, got the news coming up.
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