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A Spine, A Mind And The Pursuit Of Justice (Hour 2)
Civic Media Mid-Mornings · Thu Feb 5, 2026
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And we are discussing, we were discussing before
about, we were talking about the Judge Hannah Duggan case.
We were talking about a small change to possibly the fourth amendment because, you know, warrants who needs them.
But we've been getting into discussion about the matters of justice for those who seek to harm this country and its people.
And it's about standing up and demanding that our current and future leaders actually install the spine and do something about it because nobody is above the law.
I don't care what.
The president says, and I don't care what the Supreme Court says, nobody's above the law.
But we have Dale from Wausau on the line round right now.
He's been very, very patient.
Dale, you wanted to talk about a couple of things this morning.
Start with ICE.
Let's start with ICE here.
Hey,
Dale.
Yeah.
Good morning, Jim.
And thanks for taking my call.
In regards to ICE, I think the reason for them wearing masks and no identification of them
It's because a certain amount of them have outstanding warrants for their arrest because there's virtually no vetting of them for hire.
And the only other thing that I wanted to mention is there's legislation in the Senate that's being pushed by Senator John Thune to deny women the right to vote because
their birth certificate name does not match their married name.
It has passed in the House of Representatives from what I understand.
And all of these people in the House of Representatives that voted for this, I think their names, the names should be out there of who they are that voted to deny women the right to vote.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for calling Dale.
That is a bigger, very big issue.
Two things I want to say really quick.
Dr. Lierly brought this up earlier this week, and I've been seeing it more on social media.
These individuals, not just gentlemen, but these individuals who are on the street for ICE, are also seeing their paychecks not coming through and their bonuses not happening, or their bonuses being taxed so hard they're not getting as much money as they told they would be.
I think we're going to see a big fallout on this department.
sooner than later because they are being sold a bill of goods on the matter of getting a gun and going seeking justice, but they're not getting paid either.
And that was one of the big things is like $50,000 sign on bonus big time pay school forgiveness programs, things like that.
But we'll keep an eye on that matter for down the road.
But Jim, that's something I'm glad Dale brought it up.
And that's the save act that he is talking about.
And the save act seeks to redefine how voting can happen, how the processes you have to go through
with voting.
And earlier this week, we talked about the make elections great again bill that Wisconsin Congressman Brian Stiles been putting forth, which seeks to get rid of paper, make it all paper ballots, severely limit the amount of early voting.
They would also get rid of rank choice voting.
And, you know, I just have to ask when you see all these things that are that are doing nothing but
setting up voter intimidation, voter suppression, and just making it more and more difficult to vote.
And the thing that Dale was talking about is that, you know, if your birth certificate says Jane Smith, but your married name is Jane Watson, and you don't have the proper paperwork, then they might be able to deny your ability to vote.
What do you say to all of that, Jim?
It's contrary not only to the trends of America for the past 237 years, but also it is denying people the franchise and it's all these things, whether it's the Styles Bell or
or the, again, interestingly, the name of the SAVE Act, it's an acronym, Safeguard American Voter Eligibility, just the opposite, right?
All these things intended to, as you indicated, inhibit voting, to suppress voting, to make it more difficult to people to vote.
And that too should be a sign for anybody who's going to vote for elected officials who are advocating that.
Why isn't you don't want people to vote?
Don't want just the opposite.
I mean, among the other things, again, that Dale's I did,
here.
SAVE Act does in fact require for registration and other things, all kinds of problems here.
Married people have changed their names, got to come forward and produce evidence that in fact you are the person, which again may or may not be on your driver's license.
All kinds of things related to registration, even eliminating mail registration, disrupting online registration, voter purges, and the one that has attracted my attention among all these others is also
As someone who and many of your listeners do the same thing, we're also a part of the polling force and who provide support for polling on a regular basis.
There is a provision that would imprison election workers if in fact they.
help to register somebody without the correct documents.
In basing criminal prosecution for arguably making an error or not making an error, that kind of thing also is going to send a message to all those people who might be interested in helping out saying, wait a minute.
I get this wrong, and sometimes, yes, people make mistakes.
It's very rare, but it can be corrected properly.
You make a mistake, and I'm being exposed to the possibility of criminal prosecution.
Talk about chilling.
what we want, which is we want people to come in and support this process.
Everything about this is wrong.
I note simply again that we do have an opportunity, following up on what what Sidney said in the last segment, you have an opportunity to stop this happening even during the course of the Trump administration.
We do have the election which he was spoken about at great length, Greg.
in November.
And if the United States population votes and sends a majority, it doesn't have to be Democrats, but thinking people to the United States House.
And also sends, again, a significant number to the Senate.
You can stop virtually all of this crazy legislation.
And you can basically stop the president, even though he remains the president, from many of these initiatives by conducting oversight, by passing resolutions.
He's not going to sign new legislation.
The legislative process will come to a halt if indeed you elect people who are thoughtful and caring about the future.
But that's the power that Americans have.
That's what you were just talking about.
about, the final thing I will say about that is to Cindy's point, you also have this power of impeachment.
If in fact you get enough people in the house, you need a simple majority to return articles of impeachment, you need this super majority.
That's right, it's 60 people in the Senate.
That seems like a big lift.
But under these present circumstances, if Americans send 60 or more senators who are concerned about the future of this nation,
you could present the possibility of impeaching and removing this president before his term is over.
I want to very quickly say a remote possibility, but that's the power that's existing right now.
And we'll see what happens in November.
And on top of the fact that he wants to nationalize the voting process, which Ron Johnson has come out and said he does not, he does not believe needs to happen, but that all presents.
to me, no more clear case than to be very aware of what's going on for this fall.
You know, Wisconsin, we're electing state senators.
We're electing assembly members.
We're electing a governor or Congress if they live in your district and you still have a voice.
You still have the ability as of this moment right now.
I can't speak to a week or a month or a year down the road, but right now as it stands, you still have the ability to do this.
And as you said, Jim, this is not about electing great Democrats.
This is about electing smart
people.
And that doesn't preclude anyone other than someone who wants to come and say, I need to, this is the work of the people.
So I could talk about this for, for decades.
But yeah, I just think it's so, so very important that people don't treat it like, well, it's just Trump being Trump.
No, this is how this is how we got in the mess in the first place.
People thought Trump was being Trump.
And now he's going for a third impeachment possibly.
I mean, he's going to he's going to have more impeachments than all the other presidents previous combined.
So
Eric in Milwaukee is on the call right now.
He's been very patient.
Eric, what do you say today this morning?
How are you doing?
Eric, how
I'm good.
Thanks.
First of all, I want to say Dave Brubeck for bumper music is really cool.
Haven't heard that in a long time.
But this point that I did want to make is when the governor of Minnesota wall activated the guard in that state, is that something that the governor would have authority over the president or could Trump Trump that to make a bad pun?
Or if a governor thought that, you know, ICE was acting out of control, could they call them the National Guard and the president would not be able to stop that?
That's a great question, Eric.
That's a question I've been thinking about, too.
I'm glad you asked it because you were reminding me.
It's like, if Governor Walz invokes the Minnesota Guard, can Trump just come and say, nope, they're mine.
They are now nationalized.
They're under my controls.
Too bad, so sad.
How does that work?
Yeah, the very fact that we're talking about this Thursday morning underscores the absurdity and an Unconstitutional situation which we are in generally Eric.
You've got it.
Just right.
We've forgotten that the National Guard are they can be invoked by a governor That's what this fight is all about and the question up to now Which the Supreme Court is at least for a while put on the back burner and rebuffed is whether the president can
overturn and supersede the decision of the governor who says, no, we don't need to do this and force the National Guard in.
Again, the Supreme Court seems to be siding with governors on that.
The question once again, we've not gone down this road, right?
And the image that comes to my mind is if we have a situation where the governor, whether it's walls or others around the country calls up the National Guard,
appropriately to protect the safety and security of our country.
And the president either tries to rescind that, which my own view is he doesn't have that authority.
It's not how it's done.
We'll run into court, figure that out.
But we could also have this situation where who are the National Guard then responding to?
They're responding to federal agents, right?
They're responding to ICE and Border Patrol.
we're going to have law enforcement fighting law enforcement on the streets of america and again that may not be civil war with a capital c and a capital w that's when again uh true again we're already in crisis situation but true devolution of everything we've known no clear answers on that eric but
Again, courts will decide, but even the fact that we're talking about it is outrageous.
Not to suggest the question isn't a good one, but this is the president who's created that possibility of unconstitutional behavior and the possibility of warring, warring law enforcement forces on the streets of America.
It's the situation we're in that causes us to ask questions where you say, I can't believe I just asked that.
How did I just, cause that's where we are in 2026.
We have to face situations, which beg questions, which make us say 20 years ago, we would have said, that's ridiculous.
That's a movie.
That's a movie.
We're talking about a bad movie right now.
We're not talking about America.
America has his faults, flaws, problems.
A lot of things can be fixed in this country.
But one thing we're not talking about is the National Guard fighting.
with the local police fighting with this group, with that group.
But like that's a, that's a bad movie that I wouldn't see, but that's where we're at right now.
And it begs the question, no matter how ridiculous, anytime you think of questions, ridiculous folks, you go, that's 2026.
What are we going to do?
We got to find an answer.
So more to come with Jim Santel on the other side of the break.
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Cornell from Merrill is on the phone right now.
Cornell, good morning.
What do you say?
I hear you want to talk about the 10th Amendment.
Yeah, correct.
Thanks, Jim, for the great show, Amicus.
I enjoy your expertise.
Yeah, well, the 10th Amendment, I've been studying it, and the 10th Amendment was enacted in 1791.
and it says equal power that the state has equal power next to the federal government because they put that in there so the federal government doesn't overreach the states and it's supposed to protect the people and even the judge that she has that power of equal power to protect the state and the people.
Thank you so much, Carmen, for the call.
We really appreciate that.
I mean, what do you say to that, Jim?
I mean, you know, my understanding of the 10th Amendment is that which is not enumerated by the federal government is sent to the states to take care of themselves.
But how, I mean, what kind of 10th Amendment fight are we talking about right now?
Right, so both you and Cornell this morning get a pluses in our civics course Which is this radio program because you got it just right and again to be a little silly for a moment Those people who would poo poo the very important notion that you've described that Cornell is described would say oh It's just it's just another amendment right you got the fourth amendment and this one was the 10th Amendment was passed by the first Congress right yeah, but not to be silly about this at all it relates to exactly the things we're talking about in Minneapolis it is
It's animating the discussion about Judge Dugan's situation.
And we do have this thing called the supremacy clause.
And it's also out there that says, yes, the federal government, when there are conflicts, when there are issues that are exclusively federal.
that federal law supersedes and overcome state law, but to the point that you just made so well based upon your eighth grade civics class, the teacher taught you well, the notion that if there are things in the Constitution that are not specifically set forth, they reserve where to the states.
And that includes, by the way, Mr. President, to tie all of these things together to elections, right?
That's not the 10th Amendment, but it's another portion of the Constitution.
It's also a time place in circumstances
of federal elections are handled where?
By the states.
Again, all these things, representations of our founding fathers wanting to ensure that the states, as Cornell just said, not only have power, but have the appropriate authorities reserved to them to handle their matters.
What does that include?
That includes things like law enforcement, making decisions about their own, even financial status and commercial issues.
And so we have state legislatures, independent of the federal government.
This president in so many ways wants to run roughshod over that and maintain that he has got complete authority with respect to anything.
And I don't think that's hyperbole.
He is going down that road.
The 10th Amendment, it should be one of those blocks.
Federal courts are saying that to him you can't do this you've gone too far But it requires people like Cornell and you and others on this program to stand up and say that's not That's not contemplated by the Constitution the 10th Amendment protects the states and their capacities to work
Yeah, as co-equal branches of government doing different things related, but different things in their different venues and jurisdictions.
That's the beauty of our system.
Again, it's been around for 237 years or so.
We'll see if it lasts.
I think to reiterate the point too, for Cornell, for myself or all, it's those things we need to stand up and say, this isn't right.
And then when we look at those leaders again, who are either running for the job again or trying to take the seat.
You better understand that for the future, because we cannot do this again.
This cannot happen again.
We need leaders with spines, with minds, and people who are willing to seek justice on behalf of those who put them in the positions in the first place.
Jim, we have like, seriously, just a few moments left.
Really quick, your thoughts on California, the Supreme Court allowing California to add five more seats to their state, which would probably favor Democrats.
Thoughts really quick.
This is another of the emergency applications.
This one comes from the California Republican Party, upset by what California has done.
And a federal court, again, had permitted them to go forward.
Supreme Court, without decision, without explanation, without reasoning, basically says, no, we're not going to overturn that.
It stays in place for the future and presumably for the upcoming elections, huge.
Again, in connection with what happened in Texas, same kind of thing.
Back in December, the Supreme Court said, we're not gonna overturn those realignments and those seats.
So the same reasoning presumably applies in Texas as it does in California.
Supreme Court basically saying, we're not getting involved in this political stuff.
And at least for today, the governor of California and others are celebrating a victory that says, yes, we can in fact go ahead with these new seats.
the people of California adopted by this major referendum, this initiative in 2025.
It's huge.
I wonder if the California Republicans are mad at the Texas Republicans at all for doing the same thing.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just asking questions here, Jim.
Just trying
to find
things out, Jim.
I'm not trying to be a troublemaker, Jim.
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That's why we bring on one of our sports gurus.
And this week it is ACME packing company writer, Mr. Paul Noonan.
Good morning, Paul.
He's coming to us live from an undisclosed location where there is
a window with city.
He is in city America.
Good morning, Paul.
How are you today?
Oh, you're in the Willis Tower, huh?
You're in that
tower that is it?
Is it?
Okay.
Okay.
Really quick here.
So my wife lived in Chicago for 10 years.
She's still her heart's very deeply in Chicago.
Her mother is from lived in Chicago for a long time.
Um, and I, okay, I'll admit it.
When we drive through Chicago, I always will just, and there'll be a long pause and I'll go, hey, look, the Willis Tower.
And she'll get very upset with me because when it comes to annoying my wife, I go for the small things.
I'm not gonna be a jerk, but I'm gonna say those things here and make her go, I don't know why I ever hang out with you at all, but I always say the Willis Tower.
Now, the question I have for you, because you're a journalist and you know things,
Does that building currently actually have a name at this point because I felt like it was the Sears Tower and then it became the Willis Tower and then Willis went away.
Is it just that big building
Chicago?
building.
name.
Uh, I call it that.
And I love it so much.
So much.
It makes people, it makes people so ridiculously upset for no reason.
It's like when you're like, Hey man, this hot dog could use ketchup, but we're moving on.
Uh, talking about sports, talking, this is, this is a very weird point in Wisconsin sports because we don't have packers.
Brewers aren't reporting yet.
And the Bucks aren't doing great, but there is news because the Bucks pulled off a, as you put it, ridiculous victory last night.
So the Bucks played the Pelicans last night who are terrible.
And one reason I like coming on your show is because it forces me to watch the Bucks.
And the Bucks are often not a good watch, but I feel like I catch the good stuff, honestly.
So this was an overtime victory.
Giannis didn't play, has been playing for a while, but it was crazy because the Bucks had a huge lead at the end of regulation and let Trey Murphy, the third, who, the third is good for him because he only is good at shooting three pointers, just ripped off like, like six threes in a row, mostly uncontested.
He ended up tying up the game, went to overtime and the Bucks at the end of regulation let Murphy have a wide open three that he
Somehow missed so people were making fun of them online for it.
They did win the game, which is good It was like 140.
I haven't pulled up in it.
It was 141 to 137 That's the kind of game it was and a lot of those 41 and 37 points were in like the last three minutes plus overtime of the game It was a bonkers game.
No defense was played by anyone which
The polygons are 13 and 40.
One of the few teams in the league is vastly worse than the muster.
Wait, what?
How?
That is what?
They're a terrible team.
So, you know, skate, skate.
That's how the Bucks get wins these days.
They skate by awful teams without Yanis.
That's what they are.
So that is what they did.
And it was a very entertaining, but terrible basketball game.
But you can still have fun.
Yeah.
You know, rough teams sometime.
Okay.
Okay.
You know, before I say anything, cause all of mine is speculation coming from a point of view that knows barely anything about basketball.
It's all like, when I say logic, I'm not trying to be insulting either.
I'm just trying to put the pieces together to understand why teams do what they do.
Calvin, what are your thoughts?
Like this isn't like, I feel like last week I'm hearing the same thing.
They, they, they, they lost to the Washington wizards and the wizards are terrible too.
Like they're
Not they just can't get it together.
What are your thoughts Calvin?
Well
The patented Calvin well, I Don't think they're in full tank mode that being said I definitely
there in half tank mode
they're in what I would call pack it in mode like Don't overextend yourself anyone who's injured gets put on the bench if you're
If you're down by a lot, you pull all the starters and just let the bench play.
You don't try to come back.
Like whether Yanis remains on the team after three PM or not, the buck season is kind of over and it needs to be over in order to have a shot at a player that's going to make a difference next.
So that's where, okay.
So really quick.
If the, okay.
answer this question and then go right into the trade deadline.
That's happening at three PM Eastern time today is what is the fate then of dock rivers?
Because I feel like this dock rivers experiment that I've been hearing him talk.
I've been, I feel like it's just, it feels like they need a wholesale change in this team.
Clear the decks.
The mother of all rebuilding because it went from a championship team to this.
And I can't believe it's just the players.
I just don't feel like Doc Rivers has it in him to really coach this team all the way through.
It is mostly the players.
It honestly is.
Age comes for everybody.
This is not the Bucks team that won, not even close to the Bucks team that won the title.
Yanis isn't playing and hasn't for a while.
I don't think Doc's a good coach.
I think that's pretty independent from everything else that's gone on.
I don't think that Phil Jackson could win with the current Bucks roster without Yanis on the court.
But he's not a good coach.
The reason they have Doc is because they screwed up the post-Budenhalzer era of coaching.
selection so badly that they kind of had to grab a guy who's just like, oh, the base level of NBA competence, which is what Doc Rivers is.
So like, they do need to get rid of him and move on.
But one of the problems the Bucks have is they haven't made a lot of good decisions in like, 40 years.
They've gotten a lot wrong coaches, signing for like,
Not all their faults.
I think Lillard was still a theoretically okay idea when they did it, but tear down everything at this point.
They're not going to do anything.
I don't think they'll do this at the deadline.
They could try to add a minor piece and eke their way into the last playoff spot.
I don't think that's a good idea, but they're close enough that it's something they could theoretically do if Giannis can come back and play, but I think Calvin's right.
Uh, there's already some noise out there on the internet that they're, if they don't trade them by the deadline, they're going to shut them down for the rest of the year.
Um, and just make sure his health is preserved as an asset to trade in the off season.
And that's probably where they are right now.
That's really disappointing.
I mean, it's not the first or last time it's going to happen.
It just seems very disappointing.
And honestly, like as a non basketball fan, when I hear these stories,
No, no offense to the people in the organization, but they're very well paid.
They're going to be fine.
I care about the fans because, you know, this, this team means so much to them and to, and to see it go the way it's been going.
I just feel so bad for folks who really enjoy.
And, you know, I mean, yeah, of course, who doesn't want to ring, but like just at least a few years of residue of good playoff seasons after the championship to feel like, Oh, we could still do this, but it just like,
came down so hard that, yeah, I just feel bad for him.
And I want, I, that's kind of where I'm as like, it's like, whole tail change, clear the deck, start over.
And maybe in two to five years, there's something there, but we'll have to see where it goes after the trade deadline.
And I'm sure that we'll be talking about it in the future.
So, uh, this Sunday, a, a fabulous concert by bad bunny is going to be on the television, a neatly sandwiched between, uh,
30 minutes of football that will take somehow nine hours to play and the Super Bowl is coming Are you remotely excited about the teams playing or is it just about the spectacle of it all?
I've actually had a hard time getting myself excited about it could be worse Yeah had Denver gotten in instead of New England.
This would have been an all-time bad Super Bowl Seattle actually tends to find themselves in those with some regularity.
Yeah
But at least Drake may as an elite quarterback for the Patriots.
It makes this somewhat interesting the only The only guy who's managed to put up any good offense against Seattle's defense leaders Matthew Stafford And the Rams almost got by them to get to the Super Bowl again But it takes sort of the elite tier guy to do anything, but I think Seattle probably rolls them in this game
without too much trouble.
Seattle has a truly elite defense.
I know nobody pays attention to them because they're out West and they're kind of boring.
Well, they're also not
one of the names.
to develop JJ McCarthy instead.
And now Sam Darnold is in the Super Bowl, and he's in the Super Bowl with a team that is very much like the Vikings.
A team with an elite defense, one good receiver.
It's Jackson Smith by this year.
It was Justin Jefferson on the Vikings, and likely to get it done.
And that could be Minnesota.
Could have been Minnesota this year, and instead they screwed that up.
So that's a fun little storyline.
more than anything uh drake may is a great quarterback but he doesn't have a great wide receiving court it's kind of all him he takes a lot of sacks um he does he's a good rudder and that's kind of what preserved him the last few games on the afc side but he's got small hands and because he has small hands we track everything man everything because he has small hands he hates
tomatoes too drake
awful
I think it's really funny that right now when I hear people talking about the Super Bowl at least in my circles because we're not you know, it's
Bad Bunny and who's owner is the is the better billionaire in the world.
Like that's the thing I keep on here.
I'm like, oh, you guys really don't care about this at all.
It's just this is about nachos and a halftime show that is going to anger a lot of people and make a lot of other people happy.
So
Okay.
Wow.
Well, we're, that's it.
All right.
Paul Newton is our guest here this morning talking all things sports.
Paul, I gotta have you on someday, not talking about sports.
I feel like you have a lot of other order or maybe like.
not politics and sports, but like not deep dive analysis, because I feel like there's a lot of opinions there.
We've have not cracked into it.
I want to hear them from you, but Paul is a writer for the Acme packing company.
Check out his work.
His link will be on the show notes.
When we come back, a handy tip from Greg, we're talking to a politician in Florida who wants to be a governor and why, where he's looking for voters is not a good idea, but don't go anywhere.
We're still got lots of show ahead.
Civic Morty, a civic.
media mid-morning here.
My name is Greg Bach.
Stay tuned and stay close.
Have a good
day, Paul.
Later, guys.
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The headline reads Florida governor candidate joins Tinder to quote meet young female voters.
Dude.
Your state does not have the shiniest reputation when it comes to decision-making and good behavior Tinder profile argues Florida should offer paid maternity for all mothers Welcome back.
I kind of like you But this is about a gentleman named James Fishback who is taking to social media He wants to push a hefty only fans tax if you don't know what only fans is
Ask your kid or grand kid.
I'm not getting that conversation.
And a mandatory school uniform program.
He's a gubernatorial candidate.
James Fishback has now presented a new campaign strategy, the dating app, dating app Twitter on Monday.
Fishback announced via Twitter that he had joined Tinder to quote, meet young female voters where they are and share his plan to quote, make it easier for them to get married, buy a home and raise.
What is this dude about?
Seriously?
James, come on over here.
Me and you, we're gonna have a talk.
Do you really wanna run for governor?
I am someone who has run campaigns.
And with rhetoric like this, to make it easier for them to get married, buy a home and raise it.
Now, here's the thing is, if you wanna get married, buy a home, raise a family, that's great.
But coming from a guy who thinks that only fans should have a hefty tax goes on, tender to find female voters, all of this seems, as the kids say, sus, I did it.
He says he's run out of likes within 30 minutes.
Could someone donate?
So I don't even know it.
So I can someone donate so I can get a Tinder plus by Tuesday evening, though, he claimed he already received a thousand matches in there.
And here's the thing.
I'll say this.
Handsome fella.
Good looking guy.
Love like the cut of his jib.
Very, very, very good looking man.
But dude, all I'm saying is this, here's my tip from you.
Here's my tip to you from me as a candidate, regardless of what you're running for, but when it's the governor's race of Florida, it's a high profile state position and national position, whoever runs Florida next, you're going to get a lot of attention.
People are going to go a digging on you.
And if you think joining Tinder to meet female voters is a good idea.
People are already looking into your search history.
I'm just putting that out there and that is a handy tip from Greg All right, I want to thank Calvin I want to thank Tucker I want to thank engineering and traffic without any of you this show does not exist We are talking to the mics that do not work I want to thank everyone who called texted everyone who put a comment on the live stream everyone who gave us their time I
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